Reddit mentions of Seagate IronWolf 8Tb NAS Internal Hard Drive HDD – 3.5 Inch SATA 6GB/S 7200 RPM 256MB Cache for Raid Network Attached Storage (ST8000VN0022),Silver

After seeing so many poor experiences with hard drive shipments from Amazon I was hesitant on upgrading my storage. I had bought two sets of HDDs from Amazon prior (2014 & 2016) and also had great packaging. I entered this community some time last year and one of the things that sticks out is the “HDD packaging sucks” posts. Also, the EasyStore shucking.

I went and bought 4 EasyStores so I could shuck them when the price dropped to $150 last August but I ended up using them as regular externals for back ups, and for family stuff instead.

I had these hard drives sitting in my wishlist for a long time, I got notified about a $29 price decrease ($254 to $225). It still wasn’t as great as an EasyStore but it made me feel better about buying a bare drive. The night I ordered, I had a dream that I had already received the hard drives. One came in retail packaging, the other was just a bare drive in the box, the third was a 2.5” drive with no packaging either. The rest were a mix of cables and adapters.

My eight HDD’s appear to be healthy and I can’t wait to plug them in this evening when I get home from work.

These are 8TB SeaGate IronWolf drives, I was bummed about the deal they offered was only for the Pro, so when I saw the regular IronWolf drop in price I pulled the trigger. Not sure how much longer the sale will last so here’s the link to the drive.

• 1TB is $64
  
• 2TB is $75
  
• 3TB is $110
  
• 4TB is $125
  
• 6TB is $180
  
• 8TB is $251
  
• 10TB is $342
  
  EDIT: Just realized some of the ones I listed aren't 7200RPM, I'll look later and report which ones are which.
  
  EDIT 2: http://imgur.com/a/KzUbi Here is the list of 7200RPMS and 5900RPMS, you're better buying off getting higher TB ones, like this 6TB.

I guess it has somewhat to do with people not needing larger harddisk. Faster: yes, smaller: yes.

But looking around my social bubble most people just don't need more then a SSD and maybe a 2TB disk.

Camelcamelcamel is a good website to check price history from amazon. For example 8TB IronWolf has gone from 340 to 233 EUR. WD Red 4TB from 181 to 133EUR

You are a dumbass then and incapable of forward thought. Not a surprise.

4 TB of storage today : https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST4000DM005/dp/B01LNJBA50/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1499367644&sr=1-3&keywords=4+TB+HDD

100 bucks.

Maybe we need 8TB?
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronWolf-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST8000VN0022/dp/B01M1BUBSO/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1499368342&sr=1-4&keywords=8+TB+HDD

$250, What the fuck are you talking about man? Maybe you haven't had time to brush up on hardware while you've had your head in the sand.

>Current payment processing centers in the US store PETABYTES of data.

And your panties are in a bunch over 400 GB in 1.5 years you absolute dickhead. Not to mention an actual fast sync node, which has full capabilities, is only 25 GB from my understanding.

Worst case scenario, and technology suddenly stops scaling. We're still fine for at least 2-3 years on storage before it becomes a concern and thats if we somehow start generating 2 TB a year.

Your username really applies here. You don't have a fucking clue.

But sure, I don't know what I'm talking about. You're the one that is spreading baseless FUD right now about a fucking non-issue. Storage space is fucking cheap and it will continue to get cheaper with advances in technology. You must have had your fucking head in the sand for the past 15 years. Someone in DevOps should know how fucking cheap data storage is right now and continues to get. But you don't, so you're either terrible at your job or you are full of shit. Take a pick, asshole.

There is plenty of shit to be concerned about in the crypto space. This isn't one of the things.

7200 rpm 8tb NAS drive -> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1BUBSO

Hey there. Don't want to dash your dreams of building a media center PC, but you might want to consider this.
The total would be similar and you get 4 TB more of storage.

• Double RAM
  
• Includes Windows if you want to use it
  
• Small form factor
  
• Passmark: 5941
  
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Optiplex-Performance-Processor-Refurbished/dp/B072KZP1FN/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1525662449&sr=8-3&keywords=dell+desktop
  and install one of these
  https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronWolf-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST8000VN0022/dp/B01M1BUBSO/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1525662558&sr=1-3&keywords=8tb+internal
  
  Edit: The PC has displayport in addition to VGA

You have it all wrong

• These are external drives, not bare internal drives
  
• The seagate is a single drive solution, 1x8tb HDD, and is a special low cost "archive" drive, which is slightly different than a normal drive.
  
• The WD has 2x6tb HDD's + thunderbolt and most likely uses WD NAS drives thus making it more expensive.
  
  Look at this instead:
  
  
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  8TB Seagate IronWolf from Amazon: £214
  
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  compared to a 12TB Seagate IronWolf: £397

Same price on Amazon.ca right now, though restricted to one per customer.

My initial guess, to get the conversation rolling:

• For a storage server you'd want to focus on storage disks, with minimum CPU and RAM, minimum network card (since your home Internet connectivity will be the bottleneck), and no GPU.
  
  
• From what I understand, FileCoin is about having the data and being able to prove or send it on demand, without too much fuss over low latency, so SSDs are not worth it.
  
  
• From what I understand, FileCoin's redundancy would come from several independent nodes having this data, which reduces the value of any one node having local redundancy, thus no need for RAID (except perhaps striping).
  
  
• It's often claimed that you need 1GB RAM per 1TB storage with ZFS, but that's a particularly memory-hungry FS, and that estimate is for much more complex multiuser server environments. You can probably get away with as little as 128MB RAM per 1TB storage (that is 8TB storage per 1GB RAM), although latency may suffer.
  
  
• You should be able to get / build a minimum server for about $500, plus $1000 will get you four 8TB HDDs (ex. Seagate), totaling 32TB without RAID.
  
  
• If you want a well-supported solution, with iXsystems FreeNAS Mini you can get a very nice and powerful system, but your budget would cut it off at 12TB.
  
  (Please let me know if I'm wrong.)

Holy moses memory prices are still insane. Everything looks good but I'd get this power supply instead to give you more headroom. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017HA3RGE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1. I'd also dial back your NVMe to 250GB and put that $115 towards an 8TB NAS drive in place of your WD drive since video editing and games are going to eat your drive. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1BUBSO/ref=twister_B071JTHPZY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

$5.99 shipping on top

Amazon.ca currently has it for $264.99 with FS: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01M1BUBSO/

Sorry had some issues posting --- bear with me first post.

Standard price of this drive is normally around $330, so you can ignore their original price of $427 (Mike's and Amazon currently at $330). Dell is currently offering 8% cash back from ebates. Per drive that works out to:
$334.64 *.08 = $26.72. $334.64-26.77 = $307.87 + Tax on $334 + Delivery.

When adding to my cart as a guest checkout, Delivery was showing $0 after entering my address and had moved onto the payment screen (YMMV)

If ebates isn't your thing, I saw B&H who had the drive listed at $317.49 CAD. They offer free shipping to Canada for most in-stock items over $99 USD, and from what I've read from this forum they don't charge duties (although somebody else who've used them can confirm this)
B&H

Reviews from Amazon.ca
Reviews from Newegg.ca


Been following some NAS drives for potential replacements in my QNAP and thought I'd share. First post so I hope the formatting and information was correct, happy hunting.

I bought the 2GB unit, and it came shipped with 2x1 (It only has 2 slots). I -thought- I had to buy the 8GB version for some reason, but my purchase history says other-wise.

For HDDs I am using [these beauts] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M1BUBSO/) To be fair, I ahve fairly sensitive hearing, and my wife and guests don't notice 'em much. But right now I am listening to music, and I can CLEARLY tell someone is streaming something because I hear those HDDs a-churning. I am probably ~4 feet away from it currently in my office, though.

For memory I bought these beasts as they were basically the only confirmed ones to work.

How do I know if a drive is SMR or not? Is it part of the model number or something? Example I run a bunch of these in my server using windows storage space and have no problems. They are IronWolfs though..

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M1BUBSO/

Internet: 75 Down/ 7 Up (will get gigabit in the next few months which is 1G Down / 20 Up :( )

PC Specs/Pic:

• CPU: I7-3770K @ 4.6 w/ Noctua NH-D14
  
  
• GPU: SLI 980 TI Classifieds 1480/7100 on air
  
  
• Ram: 32GB DDR3 Gskill @ 1866
  
  
• PSU: EVGA 1000W G2
  
  Drives:
  
  
• OS: 256GB Samsung 850 Pro (120/237 available)
  
  
• Gaming Drive/Plex download drive: 512GB Samsung 850 Pro (262/476 available)
  
  
• Plex storage: 2 x 4TB Seagate BarraCuda (1st 274GB/3.63TB available) (2nd 2.38TB/3.63 available)
  
  
• Plex backup: 1 x 8TB Seagate IronWolf NAS
  
  Content:
  
  
• Movies: 1525
  
  
• Movies 3D: 184
  
  
• TV Shows: 21 / Episodes 2704
  
  
• UHD Movies: 8 (More physical media) Planet Earth 2 is Beautiful in 4K
  
  
• Music: 8000 Songs (FLAC)
  
  Currently this is my gaming computer/plex server. I plan on upgrading my CPU in the next few months (probably Intel I9, we'll see though) and using the 3770K and accessories as the main plex server with the NAS backup in my new computer so as to keep the drives separate. Currently they are housed together which is not ideal but a backup is better than nothing. I'm fairly new to Plex (less than 1 month) but it is quite possibly the coolest thing I've found.
  
  I'll be doubling the Plex storage from 8TB to 16TB once I upgrade in a few months and that should keep me content for a couple years (maybe).
  
  

Ironwolf 8tb so you think its worth going for this one instead? Price is now jumped to 216 euro. I would use it for media storage so SMR have no trouble with that.

Get intel 1TB 660p for the windows install drive https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-512GB-80mm-978349/dp/B07GCL6BR4?th=1&psc=1

You have picked a full atx case so get a triple fan gpu

Ebay 1080ti
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Zotac-AMP-Extreme-Edition-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-11GB-Nvidia-Graphics-Card-GPU/153457790770?hash=item23bacc0f32:g:HpkAAOSwM5Ncunvm

(There are often cheaper listings as well)

Or new 2070
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Advanced-Overclocked-Graphics-ROG-STRIX-RTX-2070-A8G-Gaming/dp/B07JG7PX32/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=rtx+2070&qid=1557207176&s=gateway&sr=8-4

If you go the 1080ti route consider getting a 144hz 1440p display instead of the 1080p


Extra: 8TB ironwolf hdd for storage
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronWolf-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST8000VN0022/dp/B01M1BUBSO

Albeit slightly more expensive, I would also get an AIO (corsair h115i) instead of the dark rock cooler from be quiet, it's much easier to mount, is more silent for longer and doesn't block the LED lights off the motherboard, extra top fans will also help cooling the GPU if you top mount the radiator and set the fans to blow upwards

If I understand correctly, The most storage you will ever get is less than 60T and that is with 5x12T drives. Not worth it at the current price.

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Also, I am confused why you would want a Raid enclosure (your 5N) to function as an unprotected external hard drive. You only have 19.97T available as you are protected across your 5 drives from a single drive failure. If you could, switch to an unprotected setup and have the raw capacity of 25.46T available, you would lose everything if a single drive failure. Why would you want this?

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I prefer the Dual Disk Redundancy (allowing for 2 drive failures), which in your case would reduce you to 14.52T available. But it gives me time to order a drive with Amazon Prime and replace the bad/full drive in case a second drive goes as well, and only if a 3rd drive where to fail would I lose any data.

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In my opinion, you have a few options.

1. Buy normal External Drives, with no cloned safety (aka Non-RAID) and move your content to them. You could get a few $140 each ($17.50 per Tb) Seagate Expansion 8TB Desktop External Hard Drive USB 3.0 and plug them into your Router.
   
2. Buy bigger drives for your 5N. Seagate 8TB IronWolf $240 each, you will need 2 to gain any storage.
   
3. Delete data you don't need.
   
4. Buy Cloud Storage (Google, DropBox, Amazon...) and store data you don't need at the moment.
   
   Good luck.

I'm want to upgrade my media storage.

What would you choose?

8TB Seagate IronWolf NAS @ $296.99 (CAD)

8TB HGST Deskstar NAS HDD @ $289.99 (CAD)

Other options welcome - looking for 8TB+ internal drive.

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