Reddit mentions of Seiko Men's Presage 23 Jewel Automatic Blue Dial Watch with, Blue, Size No Size

From how you describe your suits i would go with a Seiko presage Coktail time (Blue), it's a nice automatic that will slide right under your shirt and also a very popular clock by enthusiasts even though it's a lower pricerange clock. If you are thinking of using 1k on watches i would shop around for a 2-3 watches to circulate.

Seiko presage coktail: - 320 USD

For a more "Buff" alternative this clock has a beautiful dial and at a very nice price.

Invicta pro diver - 110 USD

The CW - trident collection is a beautiful collection of watches perfect for daily use.
CW: Trident - Price varies by model but a lot of their "Slicker" watches are the ones at the 500 USD mark

For something that is on the dressier side but still can be worn casually I have these choices (links from amazon for reference)

1. The sarb. Just under 500$, it looks great, and has the 6r15 movement and a sapphire glass
   
   This is in black https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-Japanese-Automatic-Stainless-Casual/dp/B001AE9XRQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542165206&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=sarb&dpPl=1&dpID=41KkNyg6A%2BL&ref=plSrch
   
   
2. Seiko presage, a beautiful dial, search for it on this subreddit and you'll find awesome pictures, trust me
   
   https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-Presage-Jewel-Automatic-Watch/dp/B074KL4SP6/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1542165206&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=sarb
   
   
   My recommendation is to stay away from divers, pilot and chronographs if he wants to wear them on classier occasions. Of course a lot of people love to break the rule, which is totally fine.
   
   But these watches can be worn to work (aren't too flashy, seiko is mostly known to watch enthusiasts anyway), have lot of color choices amd can be worn on classier occasions.

$325 new

I've been eyeing the Seiko SRPB41 for a few years now, and this seller on Amazon recently dropped it to $275. I know that's well under the usual price, but should I pull the trigger or wait until Black Friday?

Are these two watches the same?

https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-Presage-Jewel-Automatic-Watch/dp/B074KL4SP6/

https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-Automatic-Gradation-Cocktail-SRPB41J1/dp/B071WY5X1C/