Reddit mentions of Sony A6000 Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera with SELP1650 Lens Kit - Black (24.3MP)

La a6000 è preferibile in campo fotografico perchè ha il mirino ottico, a differenza della a5100 che ha solo quello digitale con tutti i contro legati (consumo di batteria in primis).

Ad ogni modo le mirrorless sony hanno anche molto funzioni per i dilettanti quindi se cerchi la qualità di una reflex e le dimensioni di una compatta è perfetta.

Hi /u/headachesandparanoia - I don't think you're giving too much importance to the size difference. The A6000's smaller size means that you are more likely to carry it with you.

A camera that is at home on the shelf because it is too bulky to carry won't do you any good.

And you can get the [A6000 with the 16-50mm power zoom for 695€ from amazon.de] (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00IE9XHE0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1638&creative=19454&creativeASIN=B00IE9XHE0&linkCode=as2&tag=hybrcamerev02-21).

As for lenses - with inexpensive adapters, mirrorless cameras have a much wider range of compatible lenses (to include Canon lenses with a [130€ autofocusing adapter] (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00E1XYZKS/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1638&creative=19454&creativeASIN=B00E1XYZKS&linkCode=as2&tag=hybrcamerev02-21)).

The touch screen is a "nice to have", not a "must have" - and you can get an external recorder (or a [44€ Rode SmartLav for your iPhone] (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00BHN05H2/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1638&creative=19454&creativeASIN=B00BHN05H2&linkCode=as2&tag=hybrcamerev02-21)) if you're serious about sound.

Hope this is helpful!

Bill

Awesome peeps, I've finally decided to get a darned DSLR. I'm usually a cheap bastard, which inevitably leads to analysis paralysis, so reddit could totally rescue me right now.

Here's my feature set:

1. Wife is interested in learning photography as a hobby (me too)
   
   
2. I LOVE macro photography (and was super happy to discover I don't need expensive macro lenses for it)
   
   
3. Video is a biggie
   
   
4. Don't plan on getting extra lenses anytime soon
   
   
5. I'd like to use to take photos when traveling
   
   
   I'm buying from the German Amazon. In the end, I've pinpointed these options:
   
   a) [Canon T6/D1300 - $379] (https://www.amazon.de/Canon-Digitale-Spiegelreflexkamera-Megapixel-CMOS-Sensor/dp/B01CQPABLE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481150195&sr=8-1&keywords=canon+t6)
   
   Cheapest but the d3300 won most reviews I read. There's a nice combo with bag and memory card for $430 (no idea if that's a lot more hahah)
   
   b) [Nikon d3300 - $419] (https://www.amazon.de/Nikon-D3300-SLR-Digitalkamera-18-55-schwarz/dp/B01B5UZ4TA/ref=sr_1_2?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1481149441&sr=1-2&keywords=nikon+d3300)
   
   Seems like a totally attractive option from what I've heard, but it's with the VR and not the VR2 kit lens - should I care?
   
   c) [Nikon d3400 - $523] (https://www.amazon.de/Nikon-D3400-Geh%C3%A4use-NIKKOR-schwarz/dp/B01KNHUUOK/ref=sr_1_1?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1481149425&sr=1-1&keywords=nikon+d3400)
   
   Is it way better than the previous model? If it's almost the same as the d3300, I'd go for that one and spend in a bigger SD card etc.
   
   d) [Sony a6000 - $617 (usually $899)] (https://www.amazon.de/Sony-Systemkamera-Megapixel-LCD-Display-SEL-P1650/dp/B00IE9XHE0/ref=sr_1_2?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1480980278&sr=1-2&keywords=sony%2Ba6000&th=1)
   
   I'm basically being lured by the sale. The auto-focus for video and portability seemed super interesting (and also it seems like it's relatively easy to find adapters for cheaper old lenses that I could buy used?)
   I'd be willing to let go of these extra euros if it's really superior to the other options.
   
   Thanks for reading, any help would be great!

That's a generous budget and you don't have a lot of demands. I suggest you stick to models that have a viewfinder (also called EVF), it's the "eye piece" at the top, which is a very good thing to have in bright sun, when the LCD becomes unusable. Other than that, read reviews, look at the side by side comparison, also try to actually hold one in your hand if possible and you have a photo shop around or a friend that has one of them.

One thing about mirrorless cameras is that they tend to use up more battery than traditional DSLRs, so you will probably want to pick up a spare. Brand batteries are expensive (50€ a piece) and off-brand batteries are a lottery, but thankfully there is a German battery company called Patona that makes models that fit most cameras, with good quality, at a lower price. (They're the European equivalent of the American "Wasabi" brand, which gets recommended for the same reasons.)

I recommend that you have a rummage through the 5 Amazon European websites in their "Warehouse" section, where you can find returned and slightly used camera kits for excellent prices. From my experience, cameras marked "Very good" and "Like new" are basically impossible to tell from new, but come at a nice discount. Make sure that the product has the green "Amazon Warehouse" badge, so you're dealing with Amazon directly for warranty and returns.

Some examples below. For the first one I gave links to all the 5 sites, but it's actually the same link and just the country is different (.co.uk, .de, .fr, .it and .es). For the rest I'll just give one of the links and you can replace the country yourself.

Make sure to click around the various kit and color options.

The "Amazon Warehouse" products are actually the same on all websites (it's a common stock) but it's worth looking at all websites because the price fluctuates depending on proximity to the product's warehouse location. Plus, you may have a special shipment price on one of the websites, depending on your country.

• Sony A6000 + 16-50mm: UK, FR, ES, IT, DE
  
• Sony A6000 + 16-50mm + 55-210mm: UK
  
• Fuji X-T20 + XF18-55mm: FR (I've replaced the X-T10 with X-T20 because of your budget and because X-T10 is not so easy to find)
  
• Panasonic GX80 + 12-32mm + 35-100mm: ES (GX85 is called GX80 in Europe)
  
• Panasonic G7 + 14-42mm: IT

They're on sale for €629 on amazon.de and in stock! They have remained in stock. The a5100 is what is impossible to get over here right now. https://www.amazon.de/Sony-Systemkamera-Megapixel-LCD-Display-SEL-P1650/dp/B00IE9XHE0/ref=sr_1_1?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1468924299&sr=1-1&keywords=sony+a6000

The A6000 is probably the best value for money 1080p camera on the market if you don't need a mic input - but, the 4K G70 has four times the A6000's resolution.

in my view, if you can afford a 4K capable camera, you should get one. [Here] (https://youtu.be/J4FDn8YX4Ao) is why.

That said, if you really want the A6000, you can [get it with the 16-50mm power zoom on sale for 599,00€ right now from Amazon Deutschland] (https://www.amazon.de/Sony-Systemkamera-Megapixel-LCD-Display-SEL-P1650/dp/B00IE9XHE0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=hybrcamerev02-21).

Whatever you decide, best of luck with your new camera!