If it's as bad as you describe consider not wearing headphones and being more situation-ally aware. Have you read about the OODA Loop? (Observe, Orient, Decide, Act) It's different in the US, where I live, since it's often less thuggary than you describe and I often carry a concealed firearm. Regardless if armed or not, the OODA and being situationally aware is important to de-escalating and even avoiding the conflict you describe. This is one of the first books i got years ago about Condition states and being aware of my surroundings: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1581604955 even without a firearm, it's solid base wisdom.

You are correct to note that many of these cretins have less to lose than you do, so they will have less compunction to escalating, this furthers your need for diligence.

Do consider, if it goes to blows, unless you are a very proficient boxer, don't square off and box as all it takes is one punch to ruin your day/life from a more skilled or lucky opponent. I'm not going to couch rambo and tell you what to do, there's plenty online on that, just don't do the movie-thing, that's all I'll suggest.

u/dangerface · 1 point r/IdiotsInCars

I ask because...

> The point I'm making is that people exerting their right to defend yourself often just makes the situation worse for everyone involved.

Whether enlisted or commissioned (I’ve been both), the occasional AF qualification range has never been enough to prepare anyone to actually use those firearms. I was wondering if you’d taken any actual defensive or CCW training. You didn’t seem to understand that using a firearm to defend yourself, no matter what flavor of CCW or defensive firearm course (or even military branch) you’re coming from, is always considered a last resort means of defense against threat of imminent death or great bodily harm. Things don’t get much worse than that. If you prefer death over exerting the right to defend yourself because you wouldn’t want to “make the situation worse for everyone involved”, then that really sums up our disagreement. In the context of this video, my comments were contingent on the scenario of the driver posturing in a way that would suggest he’s preparing for a second and potentially deadly charge at the rider after he’d already been hit once - a scenario which unmistakably presents potential for imminent death or great bodily harm.

So no, I still don’t believe that you do understand me, and I certainly don’t understand why you’ve come to the conclusions that you did. But that’s okay.

Perhaps consider this standard book about self defense mentality. It’s very short, inexpensive, and valuable perspective on this topic.

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