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Reddit mentions of Apollo Horticulture Pair of 1/8" Adjustable Grow Light Rope Hanger w/ Improved Metal Internal Gears
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We found 18 Reddit mentions of Apollo Horticulture Pair of 1/8" Adjustable Grow Light Rope Hanger w/ Improved Metal Internal Gears. Here are the top ones.
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- Pair of 1/8" Heavy Duty Rope Hanger
- Weight Capacity - 150 Pounds
- Rope Length - 7 Feet 7 Inches
- Rope Material - Braided Polypropylen
- Hook Material - Zinc Plated Steel / Metal Internal Gears
Features:
Specs:
Color | Black |
Height | 3 Inches |
Length | 11 Inches |
Size | Pair of 1/8" |
Weight | 0.35 Pounds |
Width | 9 Inches |
First grow.
This took 2-3 months. Seems like I ran into a number of first-timer pitfalls along the way. Good learning experience though.
Can't wait. So god damn tired of shady, undependable hook ups.
Edit 2:
Photos of my setup.
Edit 1:
Some have asked about my setup. This is about everything. This is my first grow so take my suggestions with a cup of salt but this stuff has worked well for me.
Tent:
Zero complains. Very happy with this. It just fits perfectly into a closet (had to remove the hanger bar though).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004U6WCMY
Air
Carbon filter:
The inside of my tent stinks. I smell absolutely nothing outside. Don't get caught. Get a good carbon filter. Maybe not this one, but something.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FVJK60
Inline fan:
I hand this outside the tent. No need to take up any space or add any heat inside the tent.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JQ14F8
Variable xformer for fan control:
This allows me to control the noise and airflow. Every other fan controller made the fan buzz. This thing is quality built. I keep it around 50v.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006NGI8VS
Circulation fans:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004RTMD8C
DWC
Bucket top net pots:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049XIIGC
Air pump:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JPEVMC
Airline:
The black just prevents light from getting into my res.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001D4XTUU
Air stones:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050HJ7Q6
Check valves:
You NEED these. Many airlines are thin enough that if the power goes out or a hose becomes disconnected, capillary action might permit water to back-flow into your electrical air pump and/or just flood your room. Don't take chances when a .50 cent valve will protect you. There are some horror stories in the aquarium hobby about this. Note, even if the air pump is higher than your res, capillary action can pull the water up through the air hose. This is the same principle that allows 100ft trees carry water from the roots to the canopy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00977J508
Lighting
Lights:
Word of warning. Start off a good distance between the lights and your canopy. These product more light than you think and I have burned and cooked plants from keeping these too close. They don't product a ton of heat or anything. I think it's just too much light if they aren't a good foot or so away from the canopy. I assumed I could practically lay LEDs on top of my canopy. Not so.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFLCXS
Adjustable ropes for lights:
Chains work, these are just faster/easier to adjust.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098R0600
Tools
Temp/humidity sensors:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013BKDO8
pH pen:
I used to do chemical reagent tests (I have tons of aquariums so I had it laying around). Never again. A pen is fucking awesome for dialing in pH every morning. Get one!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EQISYQO
Pruning snips:
These are great. Sharp as fuck and solid.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004SD76
Training wire:
What I use for my scrog screen and early training before the screen goes in. Also good for random shit that's temporary enough I don't want to waste a zip tie.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EXJ652
Nutes/Water changes
Pond pump:
This is another must have! I've been using these for a while now to handle water changes in my aquariums. It's also awesome for mixing nutes before they go into your DWC. I drop one in a bucket without a hose attached and then just dump all my nutes and such in. The pump does all the mixing. Then I adjust the pH a little. Give the pump about 10-20 seconds to mix my pH up or down in and test again. I don't have to worry my pH adjustment isn't probably mixed yet. I makes the mixing process so easy and fast. I also use these to pump out my res once the scrog screen is in place.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006M6MSL0
Root protectant:
One of my early problems was with brown algae. This cleared it right up after a week.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IGFH3FG
Syringes:
No guess work. I know exactly how many ml I'm adding.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RB3CV6
Cal-mag:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J2CUPW
pH control:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BNKWZY
Nutes:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000COBT54
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CO7U02
I had the same concern at first. These came with my light (MarsHydro 900w LED), but probably a cheaper knock off version. Worked great! I always held the beams the light hangers were secured to when i moved the lights up higher as they tended to flex. Since i was very paranoid i used paracord secured to the top side tent beams in case the light fell when i wasn't home. i can happily say i didn't need to do that since the light never fell, but small price to pay for peace of mind though. Hope that helps!
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Adjustable-Improved-Internal/dp/B0098R0600/.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dlawngarden&field-keywords=Reflector+yoyo&rh=n%3A2972638011%2Ck%3AReflector+yoyo
I actually didn't tally up the cost as that wasn't really of a concern to me, but I'll try my best to provide links to the things I bought for this. Feel free to add it up for me!
I also bought various tools, like crimpers, Dremel kit, drill, etc, but I don't consider those to be project-specific as I'll have them for the foreseeable future. Let me know if there's anything you see that you think I missed!
Edit: link link to 250w setup for $131
PS the yoyos are crap dont even try them. just buy the correct ones. yoyo's i dont have these cause i bought the expensive ones, but i hear these are good.
My light also came with the same kind of diagram, I have it about 12" away at 1070 "PAR" and everyone has very good stress coloring and are loving it. I wouldn't set up the light to be at that distance right away, however, since they won't be used to the light, I started out about 2 feet away and moved it closer every few days to get them used to it. I got these little rope hangers so it's easy to adjust the height.
Both of the lights you've linked will do super! You want at least 60w, since wattage will determine how close you have to put it to be effective (with 60w you'll want plants to be like 6inches away for it to be effective, less wattage and you basically have to have them touching), and then you'll look for full spectrum (6500k).
I have this light: https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Reflector-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B01B4GQ6MO
It's doing well covering a 2ftx2ft square shelf. I have about 20 plants under it and the next shelf down gets some trickle light because it's just a metal shelf and all my props are doing good under there.
Start small. It'll save you money, let you get your feet wet, and help you learn how to grow better, and then you can buy bigger.
My "starter package" is:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SWGYYWO
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I4NY8KW
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F8ZQYHA
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098R0600
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q2ER5C/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006NGI8VS
https://www.amazon.com/Smart-Pots-5-Gallon-Soft-Sided-Container/dp/B002JUOWB2
https://www.amazon.com/FoxFarm-FX14053-12-Quart-Organic-Potting/dp/B001I49Q98
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Garden-Treasures-15-31-in-Rust-Plastic-Plant-Saucer/50445000
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004PS4B08
So for about $420 (heh), you can get your foot in the door and start growing. This is a nice setup too, you can probably save $100 by shopping around, buying used, or doing-it-yourself. I've left off a few odds and ends like dryer duct, Fiskers for trimming, weed fabric pins for low-stress training, pitcher for watering, Mason jars for storage, but you can likely find those or suitable replacements around the house without spending money.
I also have a Raspberry Pi 3 ($43) with Sense Hat ($37) and metal case ($15) in each of my grow tents to log temperature/humidity and other things. I'm interested in eventually using the GPIO functionality to water my plants too. Not critical, but definitely a nice thing to have, especially if you're the hacker type. If you go this route, you might look at raspiviv.com too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C6FFNY4
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014HDG74S
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0722L338Q
I'm glad I bought a good intro setup because I still use it now that I've upgraded. I now have a 3' x 3' GG Shorty tent with HLG 300 LED for flower, a 2' x 2.5' GG Shorty tent with two 400W Roleadro COB's for veg, and my "intro package" is now my germination/cloning tent (and drying tent too since several people suggested that too). Being able to have three tents (germination -> veg -> flower) working simultaneously is increasing my output quite sharply. I'm doing this to help a relative with cancer, so you may not need to go quite as crazy as I did.
You mentioned using 35+ gs (~1.25 oz) a month. You probably aren't going to be able to grow that much given the constraints of tent size and light wattage (plus being a first-time grower! You'll learn a lot!). So once you get used to it, you'll probably want to buy more stuff. Marijuana isn't addictive, but growing marijuana absolutely is.
Once you've got your hardware, the variable cost is seed (~$10), soil (~$5), nutrients (~$20), and electricity (~$30). From that, I'm going to estimate you can grow ~1.5 ozs (you can do more as you learn more though). So you're looking at ~$40/oz after you've made the initial hardware investment.
Hope this helps. Depression, cancer, and everything else can just go suck it.
My Setup:
Quick question.....Should these lights still be 12" above the young seedlings? I think right now I have them hanging between 12-15"
Also will I need a second light later on in the grow when the 2 plants get bigger?
Awesome to hear! Yeah I scoured the net too and tried a few designs before deciding on this one. It's just a simple PVC frame I hung from the top of the tent using adjustable light ropes.
Here's the materials with some example links and short instructions. I was sort of winging it at the time I built.... so let me know if you have any more questions and I can take some closer pictures of the screen or something. :)
 
Materials |
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| 1" Schedule 40 PVC pipe - Frame edges. |
| 1" Schedule 40 PVC 90 degree elbow. |
| 3/4" Truss-Head Screws |
| White Twisted Mason's String Line |
| Light Rope Hangers |
 
| Short Instructions |
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| 1)) Measure out Length x Width you'll need for frame pieces. (accounting for the inch or two that gets added by the elbows when they're on) |
| 2)) Cut 4 pieces of pipe to desired length and fit them together using the 90 degree elbows. I used a rubber mallet to make sure they were seated all the way into the elbows. |
| 3)) Once the frame is assembled, you may have to twist it a little to make sure it's completely flat. My first attempt was a little tweaked by having an elbow rotated slightly. I just twisted the frame a bit to fix it and made sure it laid on the ground completely flat. |
| 4)) Grab a ruler and start marking out the spots where you'll drill for the screws. I start at the elbow and make a mark every 2". Continue this all the way around. You'll want to make sure the holes lineup perfectly even with the holes directly across. Just for a visual aid, If the screen is leaning up against a wall - you'll want to mark the top & bottom edges first, then the left and right sides. This way you make sure you don't accidentally end up with any angled or diagonal strings going across when it's done. ;) |
| 5)) Drill the pilot holes in the side of the pipe you marked previously. I drill all the way through the pipe wall and stop when it hits the opposite wall. |
| 6)) Screw in the truss-head screws about 75% of the way. Just enough to make them secure but also leave enough room to wrap the Mason's String around. |
| 7)) Once all the screws are in, I pick one corner as a starting spot and I tie up the string there and bring it across to the matching screw. From there it's just a time consuming game of rounding the screw next to it, bringing it across, rounding the next screw, bringing it back across, so on and so forth. Whatever weaving technique you want to use here is fine. |
| 8)) Hang the completed screen at the desired height by attaching the adjustable light rope hangers and you're good to go! I threw some zip ties around the elbows and clipped the rope hangers to those. |
You can keep the light that far away from the plants throughout. You can also play with the height. Get those ratchet light hangers. They are adjustable. Like These
The 300w does not really cover much space. For reference in my tent I am growing 2 plants right now. I used only the 300w for veg and just let them veg longer to make up for the lack of light. No problems for me there. As for flower you'd want more than one if you are doing more than one plant. In my tent, as I said, I have two going right now. I have a 250w HPS that's over one plant and the 300w is over the other.
To summarize, the 300w will be perfect for one plant throughout the entire veg/flower cycle. The 300w will be adequate to veg 2 plants but not enough to flower. Maybe with your cfls and the new ones you are adding plus the 300w you should be good for 2 plants.
First off, i'm simply recommending them, the stuff you got works but theyre a bit over priced so i'm going to recommend a few cheaper stuff.
You can get away with a 4'' fan/filter/duct with the grow space tent you provided. heres a recommended one.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q2ER5C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Your tent and led is fine
Ph up and ph down is fine as well, i recommend getting a digital ph and ppm meter combo on amazon, doesnt matter if theyre cheap, they'll work.
As for your timer, i highly recommend this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042I5FF6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
That timer will give you the ability to upgrade to two led if you want too in the future.
Don't forget hangers for the lights.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0098R0600/ref=twister_B00FL6MTJI?_encoding=UTF8&th=1
Everythign else seems fine.
For six plants all you need is a 400w HPS (high pressure sodium) bulb for veg and a 400w MH (metal halide) for flower, a 400w digital ballast, an enclosed light hood that you can raise and lower, a carbon filter connected to a 442 cfm duct fan connected to an aluminum foil duct hose, connect duct hose to the enclosed light hood, get some more aluminum foil duct to connect to the other side of the enclosed hood and have the other end of the duct hose going out of your tent or cab. wish I could post a pic of a custom cab I built. IMO I would go with a tent because you can always take it down if you want a break from growing. As far as what type of medium you are going to grow in e.g. hydroponics or soil that is up to you. Soil is easier as hydro doesn't give you much room for error you have to have everything dialed in almost exact like the ppms/temp/ph but once you get the hang of hydro your grows are much faster. If you use the 400w lights for six plants you will get maximum yield from your plants. For veg run the lights 24 hours and flower 12/12. Get a timer for your light bulbs when you decide to put your plants into flower so you don't have to worry about turning the light on and off, I'll include links for everything. Oh yeah I would not use seeds I would wait until dispensaries have clones that way you don't have to wonder if your plant will end up being a male or a female, obviously you want female plants.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVF16JG?aaxitk=OqDYL7cHO0Hl.eJntLB1bQ&pd_rd_i=B00MVF16JG&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3ff6092e-8451-438b-8278-7e94064b4d42&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-top-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_i=digital+timer+for+growing&hsa_cr_id=5402338260101&sb-ci-n=asinImage&sb-ci-v=https%3A%2F%2Fimages-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F41AN07ub6IL.jpg&sb-ci-a=B00MVF16JG
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https://www.amazon.com/Yescom-Scrubber-Hydroponic-Control-Ventilation/dp/B00BI5BIC0
https://www.amazon.com/COOCANKE-Flexible-Insulated-Ventilation-Resistance/dp/B06Y45YY5M/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1542130261&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=foil+duct+tube&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Yield-Lab-Horticulture-Dimmable-Digital/dp/B00YB4YZNO/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1542130298&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=400w+digital+ballast&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Eye-Hortilux-HX66620-400-Watt-EyeHortilux/dp/B00598GSVS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1542130342&sr=8-5&keywords=400w+hps+bulb
https://www.amazon.com/Hortilux-Daylight-Halide-Ballast-Compatible/dp/B00WV8XPBK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542130397&sr=8-1&keywords=400w+mh+hortilux+bulb
https://www.amazon.com/Hongville-Hydroponic-Cooled-Reflector-System/dp/B077QRGS8S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1542130510&sr=8-2&keywords=air+cooled+enclosed+reflector+hood+for+mh+and+hps
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Adjustable-Improved-Internal/dp/B0098R0600/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_cp__2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0098R0600&pd_rd_r=42bfbd0f-3428-487a-a101-99fd4a212a84&pd_rd_w=VUoI9&pd_rd_wg=Loy0k&psc=1&refRID=0X37K56JC417SB7KVZ2Z
My LED has the same connections and I ended up not using the connectors it came with at all and got 4 of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0098R0600/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_56PPybPHJ6F4D
Connected them from the tent top bars and directly to the hooks on the lights. Can basically raise it right up to about 1-2 inches from the ceiling.
This is still a work in progress
Details:
Essential shoping list (to me)
-[6" fan and carbon filter]
(https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NYF8S4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1) works great, no smell, plenty of airflow, relatively loud at 100%, virtually silent when turned down to below 30% with some sound absorbing foam around the intake and fan. 4" would have worked for my small setup. I'm pushing through the filter which is outside my grow area with no problems. Don't forget some ducting and real duct tape. Clamps aren't really needed at these speeds and pressures if you have good tape, but they won't hurt.
-[Speed controller for fan.] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006NGI2RS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) This was definitely overkill, I just didn't trust cheaper voltage regulators, plus I can and have used it for other things. Pretty well made, works great.
-[pH meter.] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CMFVXMA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) I didn't want to cheap out on this since pH is so important. Meter works great. Only note is you probably want to get some extra storage solution, it only comes with a little, and after a few months you'll run out.
-Light was a Viparspectra 300 (130 actual watts). Worked well, had good growth. I added more light later but for my small space that would have probably given me decent yields.
-[This timer for lights] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MYOD58S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) was super easy to program and hasn't failed. It has a bright blue LED indicating if the timer is sending power to the lights which is nice, but I had to tape over it because it was so bright. Also, the timer gets a little warm which makes me a little uneasy since I only have ~250 watts going through it.
-General Hydroponics FloraGrow, FloraMicro, FloraBloom, CaliMagic. I also got Fox Farms Big Bloom part way through flower but don't have any way to know its actual benefits so it's not an essential.
-Coco for growing medium. Most people add perlite, I didn't.
-7 gal smart pot
-Plastic storage container with a kitchen cooling rack to sit the pot into and onto and allow drainage without making a mess. Cooling rack allows for 1/2" of water to accumulate before the pot is sitting in it.
-[adjustable hangers for lights.] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098R0600/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) Work great, easy to use
Set up and process
Veg week 2 of clones obtained from my local medical collective. First nutrient feeding at half strength (3tsp/gallon of Fox Farm Big Bloom). LST started on all plants with the GDP starting 2 days later then the others. Did some minimal pruning after the LST settled to get things out of the dirt and clean out some leaves that weren't getting any light. Growth seemed to slow a bit for a few days, might have shocked them a bit from being rough with them, but they are doing great now. Thinking of extending my veg an extra week to compensate, will wait and see if that will even be necessary.
Noticed some small bite marks taken out of a leaf, so I decided not to take any chances and got some AzaMax and gave the girls a good shower at about 0.4% concentration. I will be following that up with a few more applications over the next couple weeks. I'm debating if I want to do a soil drench as well. I also got a gnat sticks that already caught one of the bastards.
Temps with lights on have remained stable around 79F and the RH about 40%. Lights off with fan at 20% temps get to 67F at the lowest and 50% RH at the highest. Also have some new goodies coming from Amazon in the next few days to improve my setup like an Oakton pH2 and rope hangers with metal internal gears instead of those cheapo plastic ones that came with my lights.
 
    Strains
Blue Dream - DJ Short x Santa Cruz Haze. 80% Sativa / 20% Indica. 7-8 week flower cycle
Boy Scout Cookies - Girl Scout Cookies Thin Mint x Pre-98 Bubba Kush. 60% Indica / 40% Sativa. 8 week flower cycle.
Darth Vader Haze - 4-way Black Haze Black Cross. 100% Sativa. 9-10 week flower cycle.
Grand Daddy Purple - Big Bud x Purple Urkle. Indicia Dominant. 8-9 week flower cycle.
 
 
Veg Week 1 Reddit Post - Album
I have mine currently on my laundry room shelf with an LED light. Ha. Nice setup. I don't have any reflective insulation right now since I will be moving mine outside soon. But next year I plan on it. Would you say it's cheaper to do that or just get a tent?
Anyone curious, this the LED and hooks I have:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F53LP46
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098R0600
You need these... Adjustable Lighting
I have a different LED but maybe this can help.
This is my current grow: http://imgur.com/a/FnEdV (The second picture in the album shows the hook)
and this is the 300 watt light that I have: http://www.amazon.com/ViparSpectra-Reflector-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B01B4GQ6MO?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Our hooks might be different but maybe this will give you an idea on how to hang it
Also these may be the hooks you are looking for: http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Adjustable-Improved-Internal/dp/B0098R0600/ref=pd_bxgy_86_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=05TYKJTTZ9XTFCD7SRCJ