Reddit mentions of ASRock B450M PRO4 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

You can get this board new on amazon and newegg for $75. Probably going to have a hard time finding someone that'll buy it second hand for the same price they could buy it brand new for. Even paying tax will be cheaper than what shipping will cost.

any reason to go with this over the 69.99 ASRock B450M Pro-4?

Normal sale price, solid board

For those interested: same price on amazon

Going with a cheap board is like going with a cheap PSU. You are choosing a lesser quality component that plugs into every other piece of your build..

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Dude, return that shit and I will Zelle you $15-20. Dead serious. DM me.


Edit: Here is an inexpensive board on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-MicroATX-Motherboard-B450M-PRO4/dp/B07FVYKFXF/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=b450m&qid=1571420365&sr=8-5


If you live near a Microcenter you can get the same board there as well:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/509732/asrock-b450m-pro4-am4-matx-amd-motherboard

This one is decent https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVYKFXF/?tag=pcpapi-20

I've bought this graphics card and this motherboard, but the graphics card covers my SATA ports. Have i bought the wrong graphics card, or do I need to dismantle the whole thing and put the graphics card in the other PCI(?) slot (which looks like it will cover some other stuff...

Am I missing something obvious?

You dont need a new system from you parts you can easily get a Asrock B450m pro, a Ryzen 3 2200g, and a 8GB/16GB DDR4 3000Mhz RAM for what $215 or $240. That will last you for a good long while. Then you can re-use all your other parts.

Motherboard $75, CPU $80, 8GB $59, 16GB $85

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Edit: Cleaned up links and format

I would recommend swapping out the motherboard. Find a B450 motherboard and check with the seller to make sure you get one with a "Ryzen 3000 ready" sticker on it, I know Amazon US is shipping these with the sticker but I'd still double check since B450 motherboards didn't support Ryzen 3000 at launch.

Edit: Ignore this, the B450 MAX is fine.

This is a pretty good Amazon build, and can handle medium-high AAA titles and can demolish Minecraft, even at ultra resolutions.

AND IT'S UNDER $500!!!

Why you should use this build...

1. Why use iGPUs when you can fit a decent discrete GPU that can run AAA at high details inside the budget?
   
2. 8GB is starting to be the minimum requirements for a decent PC, let's go with 16GB!
   
3. A build with a SSD that is almost 20% faster than base Inland, Kingston, Crucial, and Adata models.
   
4. Support for Four-Channel memory and OC...
   
   CPU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079D3DBNM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
   
   GPU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZYRRW9T/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
   
   RAM: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XJ6629Z/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
   
   SSD: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071Z2BNVQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
   
   MOBO: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FVYKFXF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
   
   PSU: https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Certified-Continuous-Active-PS-SPD-0600NPCWUS-W/dp/B014W3EMAO/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=600w+smart&qid=1565133768&s=electronics&sr=1-2
   
   CASE: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R7N31KX/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1Y23DX9BBC64P&th=1
   
   Check out this build.

i have a https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07FVYKFXF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and a https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0134EW7G8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

i can set the ram to 3000 and its fine until i play games. Both the mb and ram sticks are DDR4 if thats what your talking about?

Here is a good motherboard, and for the case, you can use this one.

/Ryzen 5 1600 ($80) https://www.microcenter.com/product/478826/ryzen-5-1600-32ghz-6-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-spire-cooler

Asrock b450m pro 4 ($80) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVYKFXF/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_osmPCbKKVGSN3

Ballistix Tactical 2x4 3000mhz ($62) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HDUVNQY/ref=ppx_yo_b_widget_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Evga 500w 80+ White ($43)
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-WHITE-Warranty-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=500w+psu&qid=1554302488&s=gateway&sr=8-3

WD 1TB 7200rpm 6Gb/s ($43) https://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-WD10EZEX-Desktop-7200rpm/dp/B0711YN12S/ref=mp_s_a_1_14?crid=LG4USVKAS3O7&keywords=1tb+wd+7200rpm&qid=1554302601&s=gateway&sprefix=1tb+wd+7200&sr=8-14

Kingston 120GB ssd ($20) https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-120GB-Solid-SA400S37-120G/dp/B01N6JQS8C/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?crid=30QQM2IFLAXST&keywords=kingston+ssd&qid=1554302750&s=gateway&sprefix=Kingston&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

Rosewill ATX Case ($40) https://www.amazon.com/ROSEWILL-Gaming-Computer-supports-pre-installed/dp/B01BITI11G/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=Rosewill+case&qid=1554302850&s=gateway&sr=8-4

Msi rx580 4gb ($110 used) https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Graphics-Card-Radeon-RX-580-Armor-4gb-OC-256-bit-DirectX-12-AMD-/254182815315?nav=SEARCH

Total: ($478 not including taxes)

I also come from console and just switched a couple months ago and it's a lot better. I run this setup except with a Ryzen 3 2200g which I got because I didn't have a gpu at first. I can currently run gta at 1080p high 60+ fps but this one will handle games better

Look into getting a B450 motherboard (eg, ASRock B450M Pro4 for $70) and pair it with a Ryzen 5 1600 or 2600 (~$118 with cooler), and substitute the RX 5700 non-XT instead to save money there. They can be had for as low as $289 (current low price seems to be about $320) and most cards can be BIOS flashed to near XT level performance. Add 16GB of DDR4-3200 CL16 memory for $60 and you're off to the proverbial races. Build cost for CPU+MB+GPU+RAM: ~$550.

If your budget is extremely tight, you might even want to look at using an RX 580 8GB for about $180 and dialing back some detail settings. This will bring the build cost down to about $430. If you're one of the chosen few who live near a Microcenter, they have bundle discounts and lower cost in-store special pricing that could get you down to around $350.

Regardless, the X4 will not provide good performance, gaming or otherwise.

This is what I'm looking at. https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-MicroATX-Motherboard-B450M-PRO4/dp/B07FVYKFXF

The Asrock has questions and reviews that say they needed to update. Newer reviews indicate that they didn't need to update. And the box in the photo says 3000 series ready. I'm assuming that they initially weren't but that they've since made sure that they are updated. Otherwise is this a decent board? I know nothing about mobos. I have an Asrock mobo now and it's been great for my needs

Each of the AsRock B450 boards I've ordered from Amazon and built with recently has not only come with an updated BIOS for 3rd gen, they also advertise as such on the Amazon page (see 5th image from the top on the left side of the page).

Understandable. Right now AMD has a much better line of cpus in terms of price to performance. Which is why he asked. I would go with a Ryzen platform over Intel atm. You'll save a lot of money, and you'll get much more for it at the mid range and high end skus. You can't go wrong with a ryzen 5 2600 or 3600. Some good boards to look at would be the Asrock B450m Pro4, the MSI B450 Tamahawk, or the Gigabyte B450 Aorus. Any of those are good choices and have plenty of features you'd probably want.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07ZHWQ81N#Ask and my case is a focus g mini (here’s the mobo that says it’s 3000 ready) https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-MicroATX-Motherboard-B450M-PRO4/dp/B07FVYKFXF/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=asrock+b450m+pro4&qid=1574005281&sprefix=asro&sr=8-1 it says it on the pictures and some reviews

Here's the list pasted


White case: $51
https://www.amazon.com/darkFlash-MicroATX-Computer-Magnetic-Tempered/dp/B07R4L54NX/ref=mp_s_a_1_16?keywords=computer+case&qid=1572641330&sr=8-16

Motherboard: $70
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07FVYKFXF/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1572642098&sr=1-9π=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65

Processor: $170
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B41717Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?keywords=ryzen&qid=1572643260&sr=8-12

RAM: $150
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-PC4-24000-288-Pin-Memory/dp/B07M9HZFP3/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=ddr4%2Bram%2Bryzen&qid=1572643671&sprefix=ddr4%2Bram&sr=8-5&th=1&psc=1

Harddrive: $75
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-Internal-Drive-3-5-Inch/dp/B07H2GY8ZS/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=pc%2Binternal%2Bhard%2Bdrive&qid=1572644103&sprefix=pc%2Binternal%2B&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1
^^
SSD: $25
https://www.amazon.com/ADATA-SU635-3D-NAND-Internal-ASU635SS-240GQ-R/dp/B07PLNNDL2/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=ssd&qid=1572644476&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

Graphics card: $174
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-128-Bit-Support-Graphics/dp/B07QTMRJTK/ref=mp_s_a_1_30?keywords=graphics+card&qid=1572644654&sprefix=graphics+&sr=8-30

Power supply:
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Bronze-Modular-Warranty-110-BQ-0600-K1/dp/B01MTJTO2O/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=evga+bq+600&qid=1573252042&sprefix=evga+bq+&sr=8-1

And then Apevia yellow fans.

So I shouldn't have any problems with this motherboard? https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-MicroATX-Motherboard-B450M-PRO4/dp/B07FVYKFXF

I recommend this https://www.microcenter.com/product/509732/asrock-b450m-pro4-am4-matx-amd-motherboard

Good reviews at newegg and amazon

Note: it is quite basic and has limited OC options. For example, max DRAM voltage is 1.4V and max cpu offset is -0.1V (? - not 100% sure on this one)

Will an Asrock B450M PRO4 come Ryzen 3000 out of the box? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVYKFXF?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

Motherboard, get either this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-B450M-GAMING-PLUS-Motherboard/dp/B07FNMLBF9/ or this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-B450M-M-ATX-D-Sub-Retail/dp/B07FVYKFXF/

ASRock MicroATX Motherboard (B450M PRO4) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVYKFXF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_x9IzCb24ACBSM


Found this one

ASRock MicroATX Motherboard (B450M PRO4) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVYKFXF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7pwDCb6MZRBRF

The ASRock B450M Pro4 is a better mATX-sized choice than the ASUS Prime B450M-A.

Hopefully mini-ITX isn't an issue?

The ASRock - B450 GAMING-ITX/AC mITX is on Amazon.DE for €114.99: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07FVVNDFX/?tag=pcp05-21

MSI also has the B450I Gaming Plus AC for one Euro more: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07FNMLCTC/?tag=pcp05-21

Edit: If you do go the route of a separate WiFi card, this mATX B450 is the cheapest I could find on Amazon. https://www.amazon.de/ASRock-m-ATX-D-Sub-HDMI-Retail/dp/B07FVYKFXF

I shouldn’t need a micro so would this be the same MB ASRock B450 M Pro4 AM4 M-ATX/D-Sub/HDMI/DVI DDR4 Retail – AMD Socket AM4 (Ryzen) – Flex Micro/Mini ATX/B450 M Pro4 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07FVYKFXF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4GqUBb3KP8GMB

is 450w realy enough to power a 580? im just curious idk how much power it pulls. Also im actualy looking for a budget pc for 1080p gaming, mainly overwatch and wow. if i replace the cpu with a 2200g and maybe replace the mobo with this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVYKFXF/?tag=pcpapi-20

any idea what fps i would get in ow on high?

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-MicroATX-Motherboard-B450M-PRO4/dp/B07FVYKFXF/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=7U2EO22XEBMM&keywords=asrock+b450m+pro4&qid=1550527261&s=gateway&sprefix=ASRock+b450&sr=8-1

ASRock MicroATX Motherboard... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVYKFXF?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Here ya go. 😊

Can I support two monitors with this motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 MicroATX ( https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07FVYKFXF/?tag=pcpapi-20&sa-no-redirect=1 )? The monitors I'm looking to use are these AOC 22V2H 22" ( https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07GF4S4B8/?tag=pcpapi-20&sa-no-redirect=1&th=1 ). The motherboard has one hdmi, one dvi, and one vga, and I wanted to make sure that I can mix and match different ports on the monitors and have it still work.

I was also wondering if anyone had any input on the AOC monitors I was planning on buying above.

Thanks!

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I see. I am more familiar witht the GTX series cards... Would the 1660 work with my Mobo?

No problem
https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-MicroATX-Motherboard-B450M-PRO4/dp/B07FVYKFXF

My top recommendation would be this board.

MSI B450M Gaming Plus - $84.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F7WQDZJ/?tag=pcpapi-20

If you absolutely can't spare the extra $4.99, then the runner up would be this board

ASRock B450m Pro 4 - $69.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVYKFXF/?tag=pcpapi-20

Better board

ASRock MicroATX Motherboard (B450M PRO4) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVYKFXF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6mBrDb1TE9MZJ

Not really there's a "second" cable that deals with RGB only, not the power to the fan.

they are the round pinned cable here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075FKL6C1/

the arrow on the cable points to PIN 1 on the motherboard.

On the motherboard they are the white connectors if you look at the 1st picture here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVYKFXF

It's Labeled RGB Header1, (Bottom left corner) and it looks like you only have the one connection point, so you'll need a splitter to extend to each fan that has it.

12V G R B and next to it is ADDR_LED1

So your motherboard can have addressable RGB and Synchronized RGB fans.

nah it's all good. this one is great and fits into your budget

Here is a ASRock B450M-HDV for $65. It has two ram slots.

I just picked up the ASRock B450M PRO4 for $80. It’s a little more, but has 4 RAM slots and RGB headers. I like it so far.

If these don’t work, I can look around some more. Is form factor an issue? Anything specific you’re looking for?

Ryzen 5 3600 + Asrock b450 steel legend is a good combo. It also has a micro atx version if you’d like smaller form factor.
You can save a bit extra by going with asrock b450m pro4 although there is a chance that it won’t be compatible with 3rd gen ryzen out of the box (look for the sticker). In that case you can email amd and they’ll lend you an upgrade kit for free.
If you can spare an extra $10-20 MSI b450 tomahawk max is a very good board and well worth it IMO. No smaller form factor tho.