Reddit mentions of AVerMedia Live Gamer 4K - 4Kp60 HDR Capture Card, Ultra-Low Latency for Broadcasting and Recording PS4 Pro and Xbox One X, PCIe Gen2x4 (GC573)

My gaming machine is a 6700K, 1080ti.

My streaming machine is a 2700x with a 1070.

My capture card is Avermedia 4k: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DHSZC4K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My mixer is this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0039PPW60/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have an AT2035 for a mic.

From there it's just an xlr cord, a couple 1/4 to 3.5mm cord to hook to my gaming computer.

I have two https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KUD2G4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 to keep the hum away that might happen.

A 4K 60 capture card is not that expensive, at least for someone like Destiny.

OK.

Capture cards range from the basic ElGato HD60 Pro, to professional grade Magewell cards.

I think... you would probably be happy with the 4K60 Pro MK.2 or the AVerMedia Live Gamer 4K. Both push the full HDMI 2.0 bandwidth, meaning they can support 4K60FPS or 1080p240 inputs. You wont be able to push that to twitch, but you would be able to record that locally on the stream machine with a faster SSD. If you want to record at a rate that high you would need a Samsung 970 EVO Plus or better though because the write speeds required are enormous.

After those two cards you are getting into diminishing returns so I wont go there.

Thank you so much for confirming with me. This has helped me come to a better understanding.

I just got into deeper contact with the company that did my splitter and they said it's due to these splitters not being able to process the 4K HDR signal to non-HDR 1080p "proportionally". It was mentioned on their Amazon page, but I didn't grasp what they meant by "proportionally". But whatever this actually means, it does mean that the Elgato cannot fully understand the signal and so it ends up dark/washed out.

As for my monitor getting no signal with HDR enabled, I don't think it's meant to be this way. I told them and they asked for my monitor EDID details, so I think 1080p monitors with the splitter (from 4K HDR to non-HDR 1080p) works just fine as long as the signal is supported. But when it comes to the signal for the Elgato, I don't think the Elgato supports it fully so it cannot work with it properly. I've contacted them for further explanation and details on all of it. Since I only care for capturing, me not being able to see a 1080p image on a monitor when HDR is enabled is not a game breaker, it was just to test if the product did any HDR properly or if it was falsely claimed, but it seems like in this case, it's down to the other product and how it takes a signal.

But details aside, no matter what, HDR will be washed out on the Elgato with these devices. I can only think of that AVerMedia GC573 Live Gamer 4K Capture Card which mentions HDR support as the only method if you truly want to play in 4K HDR and want a brighter/more colorful standard 1080p image.

The only other mention of a way to possibly play in HDR with normal capture is with that HDCP 1.4 splitter. Someone on the Amazon reviews mentioned this splitter to make the signal function properly with an Elgato, but this said reviewer did not try it themselves, so there is no confirmation it works.

As for me, I am just gonna turn off HDR for now when capturing or altogether even. I think I'll forget about it rather easily since I primarily game on PC with non-HDR monitor. I just play the few PS4 HDR exclusives on occasion (though more often recently).

Anyway, thanks again for posting and following up. This has helped me tremendously.

 

P.S. Here's the email details written by them and not my translation (if you want their official details haha)

1) Color washing out issue due to HDR processing. As you've already seen, as soon as HDR is turned on, your 1080p signal gets washed out. Our Splitter can downscale from 4K to 1080p, but it can't process HDR in a 4K source signal to 1080p (non-HDR) proportionally. If there's such a thing as HDR in 1080p, then downscaling from 4K/HDR to 1080p/HDR wouldn't be an issue. Additional scalers are needed in order to downscale HDR from a 4K signal into a non-HDR 1080p signal. This color washing out issue is what you're seeing with your Elgato capture. Unfortunately, there's no solution for this issue currently.

2) For the signal issue with your 1080p monitor, could you please send me the make and model for this monitor? If possible, please help extract the monitor's EDID information for us to analyze. Attached are some instructions for extracting the monitor's EDID information.

For your setup, you only need to keep the EDID DIP switch setting at default (all up).

So you can start by using OBS https://obsproject.com/ to manage your sources. You can stream the sources to your server of choice using a guide on youtube. I can assist you later today on my discord if you'd like.

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The sources can be organized within a "Scene", which can be changed on the fly with pre-defined hotkey combos you set.

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An Elgato Stream Deck would indeed be a useful device to very quickly change to the scene you are looking for in an elegant way, and integrates into OBS.

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You can then use either 2 capture cards to send the scenes from the first two pc(let's label them)

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You have the Final Destination PC, (Webinar-PC), where you would send the sources from the Second PC(Software-PC) and the First (Presentation-PC.)

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The capture cards will be located within the Webinar-PC and you would send the output display into those to cards.

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Then within OBS, add two "Video Capture Device" sources and select each capture card.

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If you are only doing 1080P, you only need 1080P Capture cards. Any higher and You'll need a set of 4k capture cards.

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As for the cards themselves, you can use the Avermedia 4k card https://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-GC573-Live-Gamer-4K/dp/B07DHSZC4K/ref=sr_1_5?crid=24SJC8MKYPOC5&keywords=avermedia+capture+card&qid=1558123394&s=gateway&sprefix=avermedia+ca%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-5

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or the Avermedia Ultra 4K https://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-GC573-Live-Gamer-4K/dp/B07DHV47HF/ref=sr_1_5?crid=24SJC8MKYPOC5&keywords=avermedia%2Bcapture%2Bcard&qid=1558123394&s=gateway&sprefix=avermedia%2Bca%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-5&th=1 if you don't have a free PCI-E card; though using these will need access to a USB 3.1 (Gen 1) Type-C port on the Webinar-PC

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If you do not have that, you can use a https://www.amazon.com/Warmstor-Adapter-Converter-Support-Charging/dp/B073H1QVJZ/ref=sr_1_20?keywords=type+c+to+type+a+3.1&qid=1558123593&s=gateway&sr=8-20 converter.

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You do need to be aware of the USB bandwidth in that case, however. 4k raw footage exceeds the data throughput of 3.1 gen 1, and requires USB 3.2 Gen 2 2x2 speeds(20Gbps) as it can get up to 14Gbps. Or firewire.

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If you only need 1080P https://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-Multi-Card-Low-Latency-Pass-Through-GC570/dp/B06XRF732W/ref=sr_1_3?crid=24SJC8MKYPOC5&keywords=avermedia%2Bcapture%2Bcard&qid=1558123758&s=gateway&sprefix=avermedia%2Bca%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-3&th=1

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And USB https://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-Multi-Card-Low-Latency-Pass-Through-GC570/dp/B00005141S/ref=sr_1_3?crid=24SJC8MKYPOC5&keywords=avermedia%2Bcapture%2Bcard&qid=1558123758&s=gateway&sprefix=avermedia%2Bca%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-3&th=1

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As for your Camera, What kind of camera are we talking about? Webcam? DSLR? Mirrorless? Depending on the type depends on what you need.

https://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-GC573-Live-Gamer-4K/dp/B07DHSZC4K/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

So if I buy a Capture card like the https://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-GC573-Live-Gamer-4K/dp/B07DHSZC4K?th=1

I will be able to play any 1080p game 144hrz + and should not have any issue?