Reddit mentions of Canon EOS 7D 18 MP CMOS Digital SLR Camera Body Only (discontinued by manufacturer)

So:

• Canon 7D. $1500.
  
• Canon 100/2.8L. $1050.
  
• Canon ring flash. $500.

The Canon 7D (the one he has) is $1,168.

Source: http://www.amazon.ca/Canon-CMOS-Digital-Camera-3-Inch/dp/B002NEGTTW

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> what camera I should buy

That depends on your budget and what kind of photography you want to get into... if you just want to take snapshots of, say, your kid's birthday party then a good point-and-shoot camera, like this one would probably work fine. If, however, you want to get into more serious and specialized photography, you almost have to get a DSLR (Digital Single Lens Reflex, which means you're looking directly through the lens when looking through the viewfinder), and that can run you anywhere from $500 to more than $2000 for the camera itself with no lenses. If you're wondering, I shoot with a Canon 40D and a Canon Rebel XSI. My father, also a Canon shooter and my main source of advice shoots with a Canon 7D.

> what lenses

Again, it depends on what kind of photography you want to get into. I shoot primarily airshows and birds, so I have two telephoto lenses (A Canon 400mm-L series lens and a Canon 70-300mm IS-USM lens). If I wanted to get into macro photography I'd have to invest in a macro lens, and if I wanted to get into, say, portraits, I'd have to invest in a fast portrait lens and also some decent lighting.

Shift6437 recommended /r/photography, but honestly this question gets asked so much over there you're likely to get a bunch of "this gets asked every week, lrn2search" responses. I'd suggest you take a look at /r/photoclass to get a handle on the basics of photography.

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   The two primary contenders here are the new Sony PXW-FS7 and the Aja CION Production Camera. I recommend the Aja CION for serious theatrical production because of its global shutter. Coming from a 3 CCD camcorder, you may not be familiar with "CMOS skew" - but the new CMOS cameras all have a problem with horizontal motion, as seen in whip pans from the FS7 [here] (http://youtu.be/mRLcqULQJTU). This problem is much worse for DSLRs. Global shutter fixes this.
   
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Shoulda taken a screenshot when i could have. Looks like they're all gone now.

My bad.

Here's a 7D for cheap, though.

You are going to want something indestructible, which is hard to do in the price range of $400... unless you buy an older camera.

I'd get an old Canon 7D, which are close to $400 used on amazon here.
That camera is one of the most durable cameras I've ever seen. There has been people who literally light it on fire and throw it down a flight of stairs, and it still worked.

A modern camera like a G7 or an A6000 will give you better results, but you can probably drop the 7D off a chairlift and it will still work.

Just to compare, here is a selection from the Canon side of things with Amazon used prices:
Canon 7d - $990
Tamron 17-50 2.8 - $340
These two are a great basis to work off off and get you to $1330.

If you want to spend some more you could add the following:
Canon 50mm f/1.8 - 100
Canon Speedlite 430EX - 235

But to be honest, if your wife is just starting out and money is a bit tight, don't go out spending $900 or more on a body. As most people will tell you, picture quality is mostly due to lenses. Canon t3i, Canon t4i or 60D as well as Nikon 3200 and 5100 are all excellent bodies and have more than enough features to keep her happy. If you get either of those bodies and a decent 17-50mm lens as well as a 50mm prime she will have great tools to learn on with space to grow.

Just like daegon I would recommend to buy used. Most Photographers look out for their things quite well and most of these lenses and bodies are made at quite good quality levels. I hope this helps.

He's right: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-CMOS-Digital-Camera-3-Inch/dp/B002NEGTTW

Just copying and pasting the reply - glad you enjoyed them! I'm going back for more so I might post again.

I used a 7D with the kit lens because I didn't have time to rent a nicer one. I don't remember my shutter speed but for a lot of these it was really bright so I mixed a fast shutter speed with a slightly more sensitive iso. Photography is just a hobby as I pretty much just picked it up again.

I think it interesting that $1168 Canadian ~ $925.39 US
but the same product for the US market (.com instead of .ca) asks for $999. I wonder why this is.

Way back when I first started, my fingers liked Canons more too - which is why I have them now. This is the biggest decision really, you can easily get a new body, but switching systems is tough. That said, there is really no wrong choice here. Certainly, I have no regrets.

The 70D is seriously sweet. It's a little cheaper on Amazon but not by much. If you want to go with a cheaper body that is also awesome try looking at a 7D - it's about half the price on Amazon. You go back a generation in sensor tech (not a huge deal at all imo) and lose the fold out screen - but you keep the great AF system and get a magnesium and weather sealed body with a bigger viewfinder. If your hands liked the 70D, they just might like 7D even more, and you'd save enough money to get a couple of primes.

https://www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital-Camera-discontinued-manufacturer/dp/B002NEGTTW/

I am a little hesitant about the superzoom. It's an enormous range, and not especially fast. But that seems like a decent price, and certainly a good way to test out a lot of focal lengths. A whole lot of focal lengths. It's not a good lens for someone like me who likes a lot of bokeh and tends to shoot indoors - for boudoir, portraiture, etc I'd recommend something faster without the super-tele end, perhaps like my Tamron. But if you're shooting outdoors in strong light, I suspect it would do really well with obviously enormous focal flexibility. And hell, you're buying it used, can always resell for roughly the same.

An awesome EF-S lens is the pancake 35mm equivalent, turns your DSLR into a great portable X100-sorta :) Awesome for street photography, shooting people indoors, hiking, etc. This one's a Canon luxury, Nikon doesn't seem to have any good pancakes available.

https://www.amazon.com/Canon-EF-S-24mm-2-8-Lens/dp/B00NI3BZ5K/

It's so cheap you actually don't save any money buying it used - one of the only times I'll say that :)

In general, I'd get EF lenses where possible over EF-S, in case you want to jump to full frame later - but the cheap superzoom and the pancake are good EF-S lenses to have.

Is there a large difference between: "Canon EOS 7D 18 MP CMOS Digital SLR Camera Body Only (discontinued by manufacturer)" http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital-Camera-discontinued-manufacturer/dp/B002NEGTTW and the newer "Canon EOS 7D Mark II Digital SLR Camera" http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Mark-Digital-Camera-Body/dp/B00NEWZDRG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1458083051&sr=8-2&keywords=cannon+eos+7d+mark+ii

Looking to pick up one of the above models as a birthday gift for my girlfriend. She would be using it for low light concert photography as well as shooting video for basic Vlogs. As there is a considerable price difference, was just curious on the real differences and if anyone had suggestions on the better choice.

It is - There is a bit of a paradigm shift going on right now with videography. DSLRs are about to become (IMO) a very disruptive force in the market.

From FreddieW's (the guy who made the video you linked) FAQ (emphasis mine):

>What camera should I buy?

>Rule 1: If you can borrow a camera, just borrow it! Otherwise, get the nicest camera you can afford. I’m super jealous of all you guys nowadays because almost any camera you can buy is about a thousand times better than what I used to use. Otherwise, look for a camera that shoots HD, and a camera that ideally doesn’t record to tape – that way you don’t have to deal with capturing from tapes, which can be a pain.

>DSLR cameras are currently the best blend of being affordable while still providing a professional quality image. If you don’t take a lot of still photos, I recommend the Canon T3i or the Canon 60D (T3i is slightly cheaper). If you do take a lot of still photos, look at the Canon 7D or 5D. Alternately, the Lumix GH2 is another really good DSLR camera.

So if LOTR ticket price was $9, and LOTR II was $13... you would be ok with that?

It's not $500. It's nearly $1500.

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Frame-Full-HD-Digital-Camera/dp/B007FGYZFI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331523348&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-21-1MP-Frame-Digital-Camera/dp/B001G5ZTLS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331523359&sr=8-1

It's not like we're going from the 5D to the 1D...we're going from the 2008 model to the 2012 model of the same camera.

With the mere price difference b/n the two models you can practically buy yourself a 7D with that money.

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-CMOS-Digital-Camera-3-Inch/dp/B002NEGTTW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1331523433&sr=1-1


You're supporting your argument by saying that the Ipad followed with a pricing structure that would match what I'm requesting, then you go on to say the iPad's pricing structure is irrelevant to the discussion.

I can plainly see I'm not exactly going up against a master of logic and will refrain from taxing your mental resources any further.