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Reddit mentions of Deva Vegan Multivitamin & Mineral Supplement - (2-Pack) Vegan Formula with Green Whole Foods, Veggies, and Herbs - High Potency - Manufactured in USA** and 100% Vegan - 90 Tablets
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>it's like people are playing some kind of game, and they just want you to join their side
I completely understand this, and it makes it difficult to figure out what's true. I do think that vegans sometimes stretch the truth in order to try to win converts, but I look at that as a misguided act of compassion, because the new vegans are going to learn eventually and then they may very well give up.
Personally, I believe that we can absolutely be healthy on a plant-based diet as long as we supplement B12, D3, and omega-3 fatty acids.The first two are incredibly cheap: This supplement costs $20 for a three-month supply of B12, on top of giving a host of other useful nutrients in case you're missing anything, and for $12 you can buy eight months' worth of D3.
As for omega-3 fatty acids, they are unfortunately on the more expensive side. A lot of vegans say that we can get sufficient EPA and DHA by eating ALA, such as from flaxseed and chia, and converting it ourselves. While there was a promising study saying that vegans convert ALA to EPA and DHA more efficiently that omnis, flax and chia on their own are probably not sufficient.
At the recommended dosages, supplementing omega-3 FAs will cost you about $15 a month. I usually buy Ovega-3, although I recently tried Tesla and liked it as well. We probably need more than 500g a day, since we're meant to consume a somewhat even ratio of omega-3 and omega-6, which would push the cost up to $30 a month or higher. I take three grams a day for mental health, although I doubt that most people would need that much.
As far as needing eggs and dairy to be healthy, I suspect that that's the work of animal industries spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Dairies have taken a huge hit lately as people switch to plant-based milk (now with 100% less pus!), and I think they'd gladly lie to the public in order to tourniquet their losses. For instance, we were all told that we need milk in order to have strong bones, right? But that's absolutely not true. First-world countries have higher rates of osteoporosis. And while I'm not sure how credible this is, the great Yourofsky believed that it was because animal protein is acidic, and to counteract that acidity our bodies draw calcium from our bones.
I'm going to wrap this up before I ramble any more, but in short, take B12 D12 and omega-3s and you will be all set!
*While it wasn't dairy, /r/vegan recently had a laughably transparent article about someone who was arguing not only that it was okay to wear fur, but that it was actually a moral imperative* to do so. It was such a moving piece that I immediately drove to a mink farm and snapped those little fuckers' necks myself, because god damn it, I'm a patriot
lots of good info in that for those who say veggie keto isn't possible!
one thing i should mention though is that it looks like you don't use a food diary and this is something i recommend everybody to use for at least the first 2 weeks to get the hang of what to eat and how much of certain foods/macronutrients you can eat.
for example, it seems based on the example of your breakfast/lunch/dinner, you aren't getting enough protein and your fats may range on the high side. you can totally still lose weight like this, but you may be unknowingly sacrificing a lot of muscle along the way. i know the maxim of r/keto is high fats, moderate protein, low carb but the truth of the matter is the more fats you take in, the higher your calorie intake is and thus, slower weight loss. the best way too look at keto for me is to aim for 20 carbs or less, get your minimum protein amount to avoid muscle loss to (LBM in kg*1.5) which in my case is 120g protein and as low as fats as you can manage. for me, that would be 71g fat if i want 1200 calories a day. if i'm being particularly weak-willed that day, i'll up the fats to 104g fat and that's my absolute max because then i'll hit 1500 calories.
now you might look at this and say, wait a sec, don't you have high protein, moderate fat and low carb? that was my first thought when i was figuring out my diet but then i read a little closer and realized you need to base your diet on energy (read: calories) from these macronutrients. for example, each gram of fat is 9 calories. each gram of protein is 4 calories. using the above info, 120g protein is 480 calories and 71g fat is 639 calories (or 104g fat is 936 calories). based on calories, your fat content is much higher than your protein.
also, remember that r/keto can get away with constantly suggesting to raise the amount of fat in your diet because their main sources of protein are meats that are much lower in fats than your vegetarian counterparts. we don't have the luxury. the more protein we consume, we inadvertantly consume more fats. we vegetarians can't do this and need to watch our intake of avocados, sour cream, butter, etc...
sorry op, i got a little side-tracked in the middle of this comment and felt that the vegketo community might need some more clarification on certain things so i kept on writing. anyway, a lot of info in your guide is still pretty good! here's one more suggestion for people who don't know much about vitamins. even if you're not on keto, you should be taking a good multi (unless your diet is very balanced, and even then, i'd be skeptical!) these are by far the best ones i've ever had, and i've taken dozens of different brands. i've done some extreme manual labor in my day too and i definitely noticed the difference if i had one of these or not. regular multivitamins for meat eaters don't compare to this one for vegos.
I've had a good experience with Deva Vegan Vitamins.
They cost $18, but it's for 6 months worth of vitamins. You're paying $0.70 per week to keep your body health. I'd say it's a worthwhile investment.
> B12, which is primarily an animal-produced vitamin
Actually, it's produced by bacteria, not animals.
DEVA makes an awesome vegan multi that's loaded with B12. That one pill is all you need unless a doctor has prescribed something extra.
You can get vitamin B12 by eating fortified foods, but taking a supplement is a good idea to make sure you are getting enough. It costs no more than 5 cents per day. You can also just take a multivitamin for less than 10 cents per day.
Okay, here it is
HOWEVER, I would strongly urge you to consider tracking your nutrition with cronometer.com for a week honestly and seeing whether you actually have deficiencies before going straight to supplementation. Iron and calcium are abundant in a vegan diet (beans and nuts and seeds and leafy greens and tofu!), and too much iron is not a good thing if you supplement on top!
After tracking with cronometer, I've found that the only thing I really need is B12 (which I get a daily deva sublingual) and a vegan D3 for the wintertime.
Deva Vegan Vitamins Daily Multivitamin & Mineral Supplement 90 tablets (Pack of 2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GAOHVG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_LJ9rzbNZXYYZN
We just take these.
https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Multivitamin-Supplement/dp/B001GAOHVG
No issues. Sometimes there's a little too much B-2 in there + your regular diet, and you pee bright (and I mean neon) yellow, but it's not harmful. It's just how your body gets rid of it.
We downgraded to only taking these in our house, and so far nobody's having any issues (and my SO gets blood tested a LOT due to unrelated issues)
Edit: We were doing this + B-12 shots, and it turns out we were getting way too much B-12. Which isn't going to do anything but literally piss money away.
How Not To Die has been an amazing resource for me in my last 1.5 years on the vegan diet. I trust Michael Gregor and 100% recommend an algae-based Omega 3 supplement for that good EPA and DHA.
Here are the 2.5 supplements that I have been taking to achieve my satisfactory blood test results:
Multivitamin:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GAOHVG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
Omega 3:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074N5JZK8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
D3 - I only take this in the wintertime.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CYA8HD6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You might really like a tool like Cronometer. It breaks down the daily micronutrients pretty well. You can log multivitamins on there too. I take half of one of these every day and come pretty close to most of the recommended daily values https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001GAOHVG
When it comes to nutrients, I first strive to see if I can get everything I need from the foods (juice) I eat. With a juice diet high in greens, along with the handy analysis available from Wolfram Alpha, I can ensure that I am getting a good spread of all of my amino acids, all essential vitamins and minerals, and even check my Omega 3-6 ratios. The only nutrient completely missing in a juice based diet would be vitamin B-12, and I take care of this with a daily sublingual vitamin.. As an added level of precaution, I am also taking a daily multivitamin, and that's it. I prefer to keep things as simple and uncomplicated as I can and I'm already getting more than enough protein as it is.
Deva seems to be the best bang for the buck, but I also don't live near a major grocery store so maybe you can do better.
Yes you do! You need to keep up with your B vitamin intake though. I personally take this multivitamin and I think it's great. Another thing to look for is Omega 3. It can be found in nuts and greens, but if you're really wanting some you can buy vegan softgels.
I take the DEVA Vegan Multi and have found it to be extremely helpful in making sure all my nutritional needs can be met. Good luck!
Deva Vegan Multivitamin & Mineral One Daily 90 Tablets (Pack of 2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GAOHVG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EK1PDb471DZ1K
Deva Multivitamin.
http://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Multivitamin-Supplement/dp/B001GAOHVG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422373635&sr=8-1&keywords=deva+multivitamin
> We're travelling/working at the moment and eating really well isn't totally possible right now.
Whether you're vegan, vegetarian, paleo, omnivoric, whatever, if you can't eat well take a multi-vitamin. I implore you, don't let your girlfriend or yourself take any chances with your health, especially when traveling.
I don't know what she has against pills, but I also don't like them. Tough noogies for me and her. Our health is the most important factor to our livelihood. I urge you to consider taking a multi-vitamin.
Edit: Deva multi-vitamin
That said I do take a daily multivitamin just to make sure everything is covered since I can be less than diligent about nutrients.
>Softgel Capsule (gelatin, glycerin, water, carob)
Isn't vegan I'm afraid, myself and many others have use http://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Multivitamin-Supplement/dp/B001GAOHVG/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1457011642&sr=1-1&keywords=deva+vegan+multivitamin
So for vitamins and supplements.
https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Multivitamin-Supplement/dp/B001GAOHVG/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&keywords=vegan%20multivitamin&qid=1483833460&ref_=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0001VUQ0M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1483833552&sr=8-1&keywords=vegan+b+complex
And then for eggs and brands it's pretty easy and skim through. Many brands say "contains eggs and milk" So, you can skim through and read what each has.
Some people take a shot of b12 but, many foods such as cereal and non dairy milks are fortified too!
You can easily find vegan cookies such as Oreos and others. It really depends on where you are located as well.
I would drink daily soy milk to keep up calcium but, you can eat greens which contain iron and calcium. Actually most multi Vitamins that are vegan contain iron. So, you won't need really a separate iron supplement.
Anything else just ask me! 😊
Yes, thyroid meds. I take synthroid/levothyroxine.
I actually just checked my multivitamin (DEVA vegan), and it does have iodine in it! I could have sworn it didn't. So I guess my earlier post wasn't entirely accurate.
It's not that hard to go vegetarian or pescatarian in my experience. I more or less switched to a vegan/pescatarian mix over three years ago, and my cravings are basically only ever for cheese.
I recommend that you look into Asian and Indian cuisine, which is often naturally vegetarian or vegan anyways. If you want recommendations I'd be glad to suggest some of my staples.
You can also just take a daily vitamin for your other worry. I use these, which cost you $0.10 a day. It's just once a day which is easy. They smell awful though, and make your piss neon yellow for an hour or two, which is..interesting?
I get the Deva multivitamin (which also has 10x daily B12) with Amazon's subscribe and save (it's a 6-month supply so I've set it up to send more every 6 months). Highly recommended.
Buy on line.
http://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Multivitamin-Supplement/dp/B001GAOHVG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368659411&sr=8-1&keywords=deva+deva+vegan
Some are, but a lot (if not most) aren't vegan. A really common animal ingredient is the capsule itself - a gelatin capsule. Other things are amino acids (often derived from hair, feathers, etc), lactose (milk sugar), stuff like that.
You can find plenty of vegan vitamin D and multivitamins.
If they have D₃ then they're also not vegan, although there are some specific vegan D₃ vitamins from mushrooms. Also, why not go for Deva, made by vegans for vegans?
As another raw foodist, let me give you guys another take on this. On a typical day, I'll start will a huge-ass smoothie (Kale, bananas, OJ, blueberries, wheat germ, water, filling a full 64oz Vitamix pitcher) that I will split up between breakfast and lunch. If I'm extra hungry, I'll eat some fruit here and there as well.
By dinner time, I'll be wanting a big salad (Big = 1 lb kale + 1 lb spinach + a large tomato + 1/2 avocado + a dressing made from tahini, garlic and lemon).
This may not seem like much, but have a look at the nutritional breakdown on Wolfram Alpha.
In the example above, I am getting 84 grams of protein, with good coverage in all the essential amino acids, sufficient Omega-3 and Omega-6 (in favorable proportions), huge amounts of most of my vitamins and minerals. My shortcomings here are vitamins D and B-12. I take a daily vegan multivitamin, a vegan D3 supplement and a B-12 supplement, just to make sure I'm not missing out on anything.
For exercise, I ride my bike an hour each way to work and back M-F. Between the food and the cycling, I stay in pretty good shape.
You didn't mention which multivitamin you are taking but I would recommend this one. It's inexpensive, high quality, and vegan.
I take this vegan multivitamin daily with food and don't have any B problems: http://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Multivitamin-Supplement/dp/B001GAOHVG
I do not identify as vegan, but can safely say you will be eating a lot of beans/lentils, fresh vegetables and rice if you are not lazy. Expensive, processed crap if you are lazy.
A word of advice is to carry spices/seasonings and take a multivitamin.
Your multi actually doesn't have enough B12. If you're vegan, you should be taking a supplement with 100 micrograms of B12 every single day. Yes, it will make your pee a bright color, that is normal and fine. There aren't any negative effects of getting too much B12, besides a small number of people getting acne from it.
If you're looking for a good vegan multivitamin, try Deva's.
For how long were you only taking a B12 vitamin once a month? If it was more than a year or so, you might have or be on your way to a deficiency.
Ok, sure - I've listed a pretty typical day below, including supplements.
Breakfast
Lunch
Afternoon snack
Dinner
Evening snack
This daily multiple is cheap as hell and has your iodine/selenium/iron covered. https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Multivitamin-Supplement/dp/B001GAOHVG?th=1
K2, I use a supplement, they're also cheap. I'd like to ferment my own natto, but it just isn't feasible atm. Also natto is an acquired taste that I'm fighting a losing battle on.
Most fortified milks have 25% Vitamin A, so you're good for a good chunk of your requirement there. If you ever do any genetic testing like 23andMe, or AncestryDNA you can look at your specific SNP for the conversion of beta carotene -> Vit A. I'm of irish descent and my conversion is 25% lower than normal. Just means I eat two sticks of carrots or like half a sweet potato instead of a quarter. No one has a completely malfunctioning enzyme, it just performs less than optimally in some, so just double up your beta carotene containing veggies and take a multi with Vit A or beta carotene in it.
Here is the mobile version of your link
I use these, the only thing you'll have to make sure you're still getting plenty of is calcium.
Get a vegan multivitamin. Amazon's your best bet. I take Deva.
So if you're trying to add mass/strength, your biggest concern with going vegetarian is probably going to be getting enough protein. I try to take in like ~200g/day. You can calculate what you need here.
I personally get most of my protein from protein shakes. I use pea protein exclusively, this brand. Unfortunately, it comes from China but I can't pass on the price point. I also add peanut flour, cocoa powder, bananas, flax seed meal (good source of omega-3's), psyllium husk fiber (helps to slow down digestion of protein), BCAA's, creatine, and beta-alanine all in almond milk. The reason for some of those supplements can be found here.
Thanks to the fiber and the flax seed, it gets super thick almost like pudding if you let it sit. Usually, I'll mix in cold brewed coffee to get the consistency I want. It's really good. I drink like ~48 ounces a day, every day. Still have yet to get tired of it.
As far as recipes go, I try to eat high protein meals usually with beans/legumes and quinoa. I use tofu or tempeh as meat substitutes quite a bit too. I eat a lot of chili and curries. My instant pot (pressure cooker) is always getting used.
I also supplement with this multivitamin.
In response to the anti-protein focus comment, I guess I would say that I eat at a calorie deficit so it's hard to hit my protein targets unless I supplement. However, you should still count your macros at least at first to make sure you're getting in the range of where you should be.
No problem. I'd suggest that instead of becoming food concerned, you just take supplements and eat a sensible diet. That's a whole lot easier for me.
If you take these two everyday you'll be getting a considerably healthier amount of key minerals and vitamins:
https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Multivitamin-Supplement/dp/B001GAOHVG?th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Nutrition-DHA-EPA-Nutritional-Supplement/dp/B00AN86PGC/ref=cm_cr_dp_asin_lnk
No problem! It can feel very overwhelming at first, but it gets easier once you have a few go-to recipes. As an addendum to the kickstarter (or the advice in this thread in general), make sure you are supplementing your diet with B12. The simplest way to do so is probably to just take a vegan multivitamin daily, or just a B12 supplement if you feel that your other nutritional needs are being met. Good luck!
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theveganrd.com has lots of great information on vegan nutrition. i used this page to help me figure out what supplements i should take.
personally, i take one of these daily and i also take a calcium supplement (everyone needs calcium, but it's extra important for women; greens are a great vegan source of calcium but you have to eat a lot and i don't particularly like them anyway).
Does this look like a good multivtamin? https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Multivitamin-Supplement/dp/B001GAOHVG?th=1 I've also been reading saying you shouldn't be eating high oxalate foods, but so many vegetables have it, so how am I supposed to avoid it?