Reddit mentions of Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power

I'm going to copy a previous comment of mine and recommend a less known option, the Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power.

$50 on Amazon right now, and according to this tier list, it trades blows with all of the top tier air coolers for a much lower price.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-True-Spirit-140-Power/dp/B00IYEEOMO

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xszfg-GNkOKoKZBIpo42cWLtPWg2hmbCcRD0wiCwTiA/edit#gid=0

Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power

Some people are telling me this https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-True-Spirit-140-Power/dp/B00IYEEOMO
Is a better option and less money. At the expense of looks.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-True-Spirit-140-Power/dp/B00IYEEOMO/

If you save up a little more you should just go with an even better air cooler. You'd need like double your current budget to benefit from an AIO.

A Thermalright TS140 is as silent/powerful as a D15, but significantly cheaper.

Don't be so sad my friend. Performance hasn't increased that much over the past couple of generations of Intel cpu's since Sandy Bridge. Yes a 4690K is an decent upgrade but overall 2500K is not a bad CPU at all. It's still better than almost every AMD CPU in many gaming scenarios.

My recommendation to you is to upgrade your GPU to GTX 970 or similar for amazing value, and then buy an aftermarket cooler for your cpu, so you can overclock your CPU to hefty speeds. Something like the Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power is incredible good for the size and prize. Link to Amazon. Or the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is also very capable for overclocking, though the Thermalright True Spirit 140 power is still quite a bit better.

Here are some video tutorials for overclocking the i5 2500K if you are new to this. It's not as hard as many people think. You don't have to overclock it to extremes, but maybe just a slight overclock like 4.2 or 4.3 GHz with slight voltage increase should be enough and give a decent boost. This small of an overclock might not even require an aftermarket CPU cooler(you can try), but I would recommend it anyways since it is less noisy than the stock cooler, and you can maybe use it for your next CPU too for overclocking.

This will give you a lot of performance increase combined with a GTX 970 upgrade. Though overclocking might not be necessary at first, unless you notice some performance issues.

https://www.amazon.in/Arctic-Freezer-33-Plus-Performance/dp/B06WP381DL/

https://www.amazon.in/Cooler-Master-RR-212S-20PK-R1-Contact-Silencio/dp/B07H25DYM3/

https://www.amazon.in/Thermalright-True-Spirit-140-Power/dp/B00IYEEOMO/

Arctic 33 Plus should be the best value and can easily handle the 8700.

I was surprised myself it was doing that well, good to know, the air cooler is a pretty beefy ThermalRight True Spirit 140 Power though.

I think it's an older cooler which is why you cannot find it anywhere. If you're dead set on getting a similar Thermalright HSF then the True Spirit 140 Power is nearly identical (slightly taller) and has larger heatpipes (better cooling).

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-True-Spirit-140-Power/dp/B00IYEEOMO

The Thermalright True Spirit Power 140 will save you $40+ and perform about on par with a D15.

212 Evo is very far from the best under $60. It is one of the best for under ~$35 but definitely NOT the previous.

THESE are the best (thermal performance & low noise) up to $60

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/scythe-cpu-cooler-scmg4000

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermalright-cpu-cooler-machoreva and True Spirit 140

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc12dxbk

An air cooler.

https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-Cooler-Sealed-Precision-SCMG-5100/dp/B01M6CR4GH

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-True-Spirit-140-Power/dp/B00IYEEOMO

https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-001F-00030?Description=bequiet&cm_re=bequiet-_-9SIA68V9AT8804-_-Product

for $50 I would recommend the thermalright true spirit 140 for CPU cooling http://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-True-Spirit-140-Power/dp/B00IYEEOMO?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
if you look here http://www.anandtech.com/show/5054/corsair-hydro-series-h60-h80-and-h100-reviewed/5 the h60 is ~18% warmer than the h100, while the spirit 140 is ~11% warmer than the h100 in http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?288762-Thermalright-TRUE-Spirit-140-Power

The thermalright true spirit 140 power is only ever so slighly worse but way cheaper. If it fits in your case it's the best price/perf cooler hands down.

Edit: link

> out of production?

Really?

Is an air cooler an option? My $50 TS140P keeps my 7700k (4.8GHz/1.27v) pretty damn cool, topping out at 75C during synthetic stress tests

Only downside is that it's a fairly tall cooler (172mm) so If you do go that route make sure your case can support its height. Plenty of other great air coolers that would outperform that smaller AIO with much less sound output too

Options in that price range in AUS are a little limited but here are some good ones (roughly listed in terms of increasing price/performance):


Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo

Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power

Cryorig H5 Ultimate

Scythe Ninja 5



Scythe Fuma 2

Thermalright Macho Rev C.

Noctua NH-U14S

Since I'm not sure where you're at, my alternative recommendations are the Thermalright ARO-M14G (https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/10/02/thermalright_arom14g_ryzen_am4_cpu_air_cooler_review/4) or the True Spirit 140 Power (https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-True-Spirit-140-Power/dp/B00IYEEOMO/). Those should be in the $45 to $50 range (at least in the US).

The True Spirit 140 Power is a single tower cooler and the Okeanos is much louder than the D15. The PH-TC14PE is better, but it is also louder than the D14 which is louder than the D15.

Yes, true. The 7700K runs a bit hot. You can go top of the line with the D14 or D15. If you want to save a little cash the U12S should be sufficient as well

If you have enough clearance in your case, the Thermalright TS 140 offers similar performance to the D14/15 for $50

I got you down $100.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor | $234.53 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler | Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler | $52.90
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $102.98 @ Newegg
Memory | GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $49.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $97.88 @ OutletPC
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.33 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card | $369.99 @ Newegg
Case | NZXT S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case | $89.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $59.99 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $88.58 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1236.16
| Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
| Total | $1196.16
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-15 23:08 EST-0500 |

PCPP doesn't show links for that cooler (possibly because there are a couple revisions and a few names for it), but it's damn good and can be found on Amazon.


If you're willing to budge on the case, we're within $60.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor | $234.53 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler | Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler | $52.90
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $102.98 @ Newegg
Memory | GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $49.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $97.88 @ OutletPC
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.33 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card | $369.99 @ Newegg
Case | Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case | $54.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $59.99 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $88.58 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1211.16
| Mail-in rebates | -$50.00
| Total | $1161.16
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-15 23:11 EST-0500 |

There's another $20 to be had if you go for a shittier SSD and $10 on the HDD. I wouldn't do the former but the latter is no big deal. WD Blues aren't anything to write home about anyway. That gets us real close. You could go to a non-modular PSU, but I wouldn't.

There's no way to drop $200 while keeping all of the expensive bits. The parts you were OK with changing only make up like $450 of the build and a lot of it you can't go much lower than what you have anyway.

>A few people recommended having 4 separate RAM sticks rather than 2 so that when one ends up getting maxed out, the other isn't over-bared/"locked up" with the same task. They said it would free up continuity for having more processes going at once. They edited heavily as well, so that's the only reason I thought they might know what they were talking about; but they could be just as wrong.

Yes, I would say that falls into the 'superstition' category of things. The memory controller can only access one stick per channel at a time, so all having more sticks does is increase the load on the memory controller. Some people notice they have reduced OC capabilities running 4 sticks over 2.

So overall, 2 sticks gives you the benefit of minimizing the load on the memory controller, leaving 2 slots free for a future upgrade if desired, and potentially leaves you more OC headroom.

>As for the SSD, my friend has had that one for a few years and it's been alright. I only intend to have the OS on there; and since it was cheaper and I only needed one thing attained to it, I figured it made sense.

If your friend bought one a while ago, he probably got the original version of that drive which came with much better Synchronous NAND. About a year ago Kingston quietly swapped out the Synchronous NAND for cheaper, but slower Asynchronous NAND. I won't really get into the controversy here, but essentially the V-series has always used the cheaper Asynch NAND, and they make no advertisement as to the type of NAND it comes with. They can continue to advertise the same 'speeds' on the specs because when empty with the Sandforce controller the ATTO results remain the same. It's when you start filling it that performance starts to degrade significantly and noticeably.

>I'll probably take you up on that side fan for the case, because I rather the look of the original Phantom case honestly. I'll think on it. Thanks for warning me about the airflow though!

As long as you know what you're getting into. Don't say I didn't warn you!

I'll link you to the Phantom 530 in White and Phantom 630 in White just in case though.

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Edit: Also, one last thing, the CPU cooler. I would suggest getting something a bit different from the bland old EVO. At a similar price range, I like the be quiet! Shadow Rock 2. Moving up a bit, the Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power gets my vote - it's extremely quiet, but also one of the most powerful air coolers on the market. Also available on Amazon.

The Hyper 212 has been superseded by the H7 for non-frugal builds due to better performance at a good price. It's still too light for an OC'd 7700k.

If you want decent overclocking that's pretty quiet on the cheap then get one of these (if it will fit in your case): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IYEEOMO/?tag=pcpapi-20

If you can fit 172mm height then https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-True-Spirit-140-Power/dp/B00IYEEOMO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1

Ditch the NH-D15, you can get the same performance out of a Thermalright TS140BW. (The True Spirit 140 BW is a bit hard to find these days, but the True Spirit 140 Power produces the same amount of noise and performs better. It's slightly large though. $55 on Amazon).

Some games see small advantages from high RAM frequencies, but it's very marginal. You could save a bit of money by dropping down to DDR4-2666 or whatever.

You're spending a bit more on the motherboard than you need to. Unless you need features specific to that board, drop down to a more basic Z170 board.

You're going overboard on the PSU. This is a ~400W build, even after overclocking you'd be fine with a 550-650W PSU. The only reason to go for 750W is if you're planning to add a second 1080 at some point.

You probably don't need a 950 Pro. Unless you're doing things that are heavily disk-bound, you will see very little advantage from it. You'll save a few seconds booting and opening programs. Even extrapolated out over the lifetime of the system I don't think that that's worth the premium price, but maybe you disagree.

Here's what you should have done.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor | $419.99
CPU Cooler | Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 POWER 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler | $54.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI Z170A-G45 GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $0.00
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $62.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card | $287.10 @ Newegg
Case | Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case | $69.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $79.99 @ NCIX US
Wireless Network Adapter | Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter | $29.88 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1024.89
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $1004.89
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-14 16:27 EDT-0400 |

Much better cooler (beats the R1), get it from Amazon though.
Better GPU
Better PSU
Got rid of the loud and pretty bad case fans.

I installed my TRUE120 Rev C on ASUS PRIME X370-PRO that I put together for my cousin a while ago. Early production Ryzen 7 1700 chips needed a lot more vcore to go above 3.8GHz. I got the 1700 up to 3.9GHz. Clearance around the PRIME X370-PRO was ok but I did have to take a double look. I still have my original TRUE120 installed on my Sabertooth 990FX but don't have the new universal bracket so I can't see how it fits on my X570 AORUS Master or my X370 Professional Gaming (same as Taichi). Which motherboard are you considering ?

Amazon has the universal bracket for $12
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-100700553-Optional-Mounting-Installation/dp/B00UN05Q6A/

Amazon also has the TRUE Spirit 140 Power for $50
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-True-Spirit-140-Power/dp/B00IYEEOMO/

TRUE Spirit 140 Power has near identical cooling and noise levels to the NH-D14 (the mounting bracket looks to be the same).

Very detail discussion on OCN also Amazon custom feedback.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-air-cooling/1477785-thermalright-true-spirit-140-power.html

Throwing a $30 cooler seems like it'd kill the deal right? Like for OCing don't you want a better cooler? I'd say a $90 Noctua, but then it looks like absolute shit and covers your RAM, so probably a water cooler or something? I really dunno.

My Ryzen build is a $200 cpu, $100 mobo (after discount), and free cooler.

Edit: I found this cooler is super popular and $50 - https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-True-Spirit-140-Power/dp/B00IYEEOMO#customerReviews