Reddit mentions of Vision In Wall Z-Wave Micro Switch, 2 relay

I've built several pi and Arduino projects in the past and just glancing over this I feel you spent more on the parts then it would have cost you to just buy a smart light switch or a zwave relay (capable of controlling two light switches)

Light switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DQDNBZ2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_IwC5BbGS8JHF7

Inwall Zwave relay
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R883YKU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_oyC5BbWDBJHTQ

Use this: Vision In Wall Z-Wave Micro Switch, 2 relay https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R883YKU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_tpBryb5W40S9P with the switch you linked.

I'm not aware of anything ready to go. You could, however, get one of these guys: https://smile.amazon.com/Vision-Z-Wave-Micro-Switch-relay/dp/B00R883YKU

Then add in a regular stacked switch. At least assuming the box is larger enough to fit that and the switch.

Thanks for the suggestions!

While searching for the Aeotec switch, I came across the Vision In Wall Z-Wave Micro Switch, 2 relay (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R883YKU/), which seems to be a cheaper alternative.

You can install an in-wall dual z-wave relay, like one of these:

• https://www.amazon.com/Enerwave-ZWN-RSM2-Converting-Switches-REQUIRED/dp/B01G7OD3ME/
  
• https://www.amazon.com/QUBINO-Flush-ZMNHBD3-Z-Wave-relays/dp/B06XFC2V6M/
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Z-Wave-Micro-Switch-relay/dp/B00R883YKU/
  
  I don't know if there are any dual in-wall dimming switches. Personally, I'd rip out the single gang work-box, and put in a old-work double gang work-box.

With no neutral in the switch box, you must have it at the fixture. Could you rewire the fixture such that the fixture is always hot, convert the return leg of the wire to the switch back to a neutral, use it to power a smart relay like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Z-Wave-Micro-Switch-relay/dp/B00R883YKU/ and use your existing switch to control it? Then trigger the robot for the other bulbs off of that relay’s status.

Ive never considered an in line switch before but you use case makes sense. Here is another relay that is a little cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R883YKU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ar.RBbWNCNN4K. You could then pair it with a zwave button or something. Now I'm considering where I could use something like this haha

AFAIK the only way to do this is to use a relay with the dumb switch.

This is an example: Vision In Wall Z-Wave Micro Switch, 2 relay https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R883YKU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_uxbwDb7N2SBCD

But you might be better off converting it to a two gang box (assuming there's room there).

You could get a couple of these and put them behind the switch if there's room. Each can control two inputs, so you'd just have one relay left over. They take input from the switch and use that to toggle the state of the relay, while also allowing wink to control the relay.

A dual-relay Z-wave in-box switch and a Z-wave scene controller will get you wireless control over the fan however in order to get Alexa compatibility, you're going to need a hub of some sort (Vera, Wink, Smartthings). Alexa's commands go from the Amazon Voice Service to the smart hub's API, and the hub is what sends the actual commands to turn on/off things. Without a hub, there's nothing for Alexa to see much less control.

Trying to find a wifi solution to this is either going to be expensive as it's a single-purpose item (to control a fan/light kit) or it's going to be kludgy. You could technically get a couple of wifi appliance switches (one for fan, one for lights), however it's going to be a bit ugly up on the ceiling or on the wall wherever you tap in to get the power for the ceiling fan.

I have one of these but haven't setup with a 3way switch yet. Have you seen this person's review on Amazon?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B00R883YKU/RC9RA0BUNBS5I/ref=cm_cr_dp_mb_rvw_1?ie=UTF8&cursor=1

you could try one of these in-wall relay micro switches. I have these in my bathroom dual gangbox and they work really great. Single relay switches should be smaller too.

I use this one from amazon. It has a 120v coil so it is easier to control. I use a contactor the pool pump and one for the pool cleaner pump controlled with a dual relay z wave micro switch. But any z wave switch that you can mount will work. Many pool pump panels have a place for a switch to mount. Mine is inside the panel and works great.

I was waiting for the same thing, but I finally bit the bullet and got a dual relay. It's a tight fit (you'll need to stuff it all the way to the back), but I got it to work in a standard single-gang box. Your existing switches will work and will toggle on/off regardless of the position of the switch. The switch also reports instant status to your z-wave controller.

The model I listed is good because the built in wires minimize the number of wire nuts you'll need (only 2 to connect the red and yellow wires to the 2 loads), which conserves space. You can follow along with the wiring guide in the comments. It's cheap and works great for on/off control.

They also make 'double' versions of these to control two switches. I wish i'd understood more before converting the house over to GE/Jasco.

https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Z-Wave-Micro-Switch-relay/dp/B00R883YKU

Dimmer versions:

https://www.amazon.com/Aeotec-Z-Wave-Micro-Dimmer-2nd/dp/B00IRI1CEK/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1486063509&sr=1-3&keywords=zwave+in+wall

second 2 gang option: https://www.amazon.com/Aeon-Labs-Aeotec-DSC-17103/dp/B01DDQS07W/ref=pd_sim_60_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01DDQS07W&pd_rd_r=YFHWK6KFSSQT2MNBSMT7&pd_rd_w=ahlIA&pd_rd_wg=Oo1Qn&psc=1&refRID=YFHWK6KFSSQT2MNBSMT7

Maybe. I have used these, and they support 2 switches, but only if your controller supports 2 switches on the same device. My 2Gig alarm panel does not, so I can only use it for one switch.

If you do this, I have one piece of advice - daisy chain the neutral wire from switch to switch. You can make them the correct length and they will use a lot less room. Each wire connector should have 2 holes to insert wiring. The screws are basically a no-go.

You can also keep the switches and go with these :

https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Z-Wave-Micro-Switch-relay/dp/B00R883YKU/

https://www.amazon.com/Fibaro-Fgs-222-Dual-Relay-Switch/dp/B00WH0S8F0

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Each controls two loads.

In places where space is tight (3 or 4 switches in a box) I use Vision in-wall double relays and keep the existing switches there. See this or this. 2 of these will work with 4 rockers, will be in the box and no other changes.

If you go with Smartthings you can use both z-wave and zigbee devices.

Be careful though as for most devices you need neutral wire for each circuit in every box. Some lighting do not have them as they are at the fixture, but you can install these relays right at the fixture.

Also do some reading/ask for advice here.

Disclaimer: I’m in the US.

When I wanted to start adding this functionality I went zwave and added a couple of zwave in-wall switches for the most important and commonly used lights (I was also doing a zwave lock at the time).

Now I am trying one of these modules which go in the switch junction box or light junction box. This one in particular has two relays for a double switch box. You can still use the normal switch (the module notices the switch flip either direction and cycles the state of the device). I haven’t installed one yet but others have reported good results.

You could also incorporate zigbee or another protocol. You need two way communication between devices and the system instead of one way from the system to the device as you have now.

I'd probably look into using a couple of these to automate double-rocker switches (if there's room in the gang boxes, you have neutrals, etc.)

Vision In Wall Z-Wave Micro Switch, 2 relay https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R883YKU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_VXCbAb1NHPYCC

Yep basically it goes on between your existing light switches and your home's wiring. The instructions arent super helpful but the top Amazon review has a really useful wiring diagram.

I like to use ones like these: https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Z-Wave-Micro-Switch-relay/dp/B00R883YKU/ref=sr_1_4?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1524829057&sr=1-4&keywords=In+Wall+Z-Wave+Micro+Switch

you can still use the same switch so it looks like a normal wall switch because it is a normal wall switch.

You could tuck one of these up into the range hood somewhere: Vision In Wall Z-Wave Micro Switch, 2 relay https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R883YKU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Qw94AbMSPQHRX

I have used these successfully with Smartthings and Vera Lite. You only need one to work with two switches. It must be wired in the box behind the switches, so you need to make sure you've got room in your box. Based on the instructions, I'm certain there is a European variant. I hope this helps.

Vision In Wall Z-Wave Micro Switch, 2 relay https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R883YKU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_q6iIAbKA2Z3JB

Thanks. I also asked in /r/homeautomation and had this suggested. Looks like it could possibly work if I can jam a couple of them in the box with the rest of the wires.