(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best mirrorless cameras

Wait a few days, Panasonic is about to make an announcement, probably the G5, a new lens and a new compact camera!

I think m43 is the way to go, and I recommend spending more money on lenses than on your body. Doing some quick price checking: I'd rather have a Panasonic G3 with kit lens, ($549 on amazon) and spend the extra money on a 14mm f2.5 ($270), a 20mm f1.7 ($359) or 45mm f1.8 ($399), than Olympus OM-D for $1299 with kit lens or $1399 with the upgraded, weather sealed lens (which I definitely recommend you buying if you get the OM-D)

The OM-D has a few nice things, but in the early stage, I'd rather spend half as much on the body, and use it on getting some nice lenses. Weather sealing and better image stabilisation are cool, but do you really need that? IS doesn't even need to be used if you shoot at a high shutter speed (over 1/100th of a second). Image quality (IQ) is only slightly better than the G3

The G3 is about to be replaced with something though, so keep your eyes open! I'm guessing it won't be any new super amazing features, the IQ will be slightly better again, perhaps better than the OM-D, but the big thing is that it will drive down the price of the G3 :D

...and wow, I'm pushing this camera pretty hard lol... But Um, yeah, if you want a micro four thirds camera, with a viewfinder, that's the one I recommend :) The GH1/GH2 are optimised for making videos, so they have some extra features there, but if you won't be making videos, G3 is the way to go! Or GX1 if you want a smaller body (no viewfinder though). If you don't want to deal with RAW files, you might want to go for an Olympus body instead (they have arguably better in-body JPG processing).

I get what you're saying about buying the nicest thing first, so you won't want to upgrade, but I'm telling you that the image quality will be 95% as good from a G3 as an OM-D, you just won't be able to take a bath with your camera, and the image stabilisation (which is still great, depending on what lens you have) is not as good, or non-existant.

Oh and yes, I definitely think that micro four thirds is the system to get. Nex might eventually get a decent lens line up..... but it isn't going to be cheap, and it isn't going to be soon. And it isn't going to be pretty. (Because they have APS-C sensors, their lenses are dSLR sized, no matter what size the body is, their lenses will always be big)

A few assumptions need to be made to make this post not 10 pages long. I assume you have approximately $500+ dollars to get started. If you don't it'll be clear where you can cut back, but lose out on quality.


In order to do what Duncan does, you need a few items:

1. Camera: The best bang for the buck "no" budget camera right now for solo shooters who film themselves is the a5100. The a6000 is also nice but doesn't have a flip out monitor which helps when making sure you're in focus and also filming yourself, and also loses out on some other video features. This camera depletes our budget immediately but starting out strong is good. You can always save up money for more stuff later down the road. If that's too expensive you can look into a used a5100, or a Sony NEX-5N. You lose out on fast auto focus, a higher quality codec, and a flip out monitor. Could you get a DSLR? Sure. But anything that would come close to competing with the a5100 in terms of video specs would be well over $1,000.
   
   
   
2. Tripod: You don't really need a tripod. You could stack up a bunch of books and put your camera on that. Unfortunately you wouldn't have pan/tilt capabilities but it'd work. However, filming "b-roll" of your completed minis to add supplementary footage may be difficult handheld. So, if I were to buy a "no" budget tripod, it'd be this one. I personally used this. It's great for beginners, pretty rigid, but suffers when exposed to elements like water/sand. It also only has 2 axes of motion as opposed to all 3 (not the biggest deal for video, more so photography).
   
   
   
3. SD Card: Your camera probably comes with one (unless you buy used or some other deal). If you need one, seeing as how you'll be filming to a 50 mbit codec (XAVC, higher the number, better the quality of the footage), you'll need a card with at least a 50 mbit read/write rate to keep up with that codec. Here's one.
   
   
   
4. Microphone: Duncan's voice is nice and clear. The mic on your camera is absolutely terrible. You will sound like you're talking into a tin can. This isn't a problem with the camera either, it's a problem with all on-camera microphones. There's a few solutions to this. You could pick up a lavaliere system. One interesting one is the Rode Smart Lav. You plug it into your smart phone, click record on your smart phone, record on your camera, sync it with a clap, and you're off. Most cameras come with a 3.5mm jack to plug in an external microphone, but this one does not (kind of good and bad, bad for "no" budget film making). This forces us to look for an external recorder to capture our audio (in the case of the smart lav, your phone acts as the external recorder). A good external recorder and mic combo with be a Tascam DR-05 and a Rode VideoMic Go plus some accessories like a cold shoe mount + mic stand. Out of these set ups, I prefer the smart lav. When/if you look into getting a recorder/microphone solution, spending more money garnishes much better equipment to a certain degree.
   
   
   Bonus 5: Lenses. As usual, lenses that come with the camera are not the best in terms of sharpness. So I have 2 recommendations to supplement your camera. An incredibly sharp (in terms of detail) lens but it only can take advantage of Sony's slower auto focus, or a less sharp lens that can auto focus very quickly. Combining sharpness + capability to utilize Sony's new fast auto focus features costs $$$. It does exist, but I'm hesitant to link it.
   
   
   My recommendation: If you know you want to get into this, buy the a5100 and an SD card (if you need it). Play around with the camera, its settings, different set ups, etc. Once you're familiar, buy the tripod, film test tutorial of you painting something, edit it and render/publish it. Once you're certain you are enjoying the process or the outcome, buy a better mic set up, and then finally a better lens.
   /u/RamenProfitable

Depends on what your goals are. If your goal is to have a nicer camera, then sure, it's always time for a new camera. (It's perfectly fine to want to buy something nice if it makes you happy. Just be careful about your budget.)

If you want to improve your photography, then ask yourself, "What is the thing that's limiting my pictures being better?" You might find that thing to be your tools, but it could also be the squishy bit behind the viewfinder. Find some photos that you like and ask yourself, "What's stopping me from taking pictures like this?"

The last time someone asked about equipment for beginner car photography, this was my advice:

> I think good car photography is more about composition, lighting and editing more than quality camera/lenses. For example, here's an interesting way of doing car photography with an ice light. They're $400 each, but if you're into DIY, I'm sure you could figure out your own solution.

> Off-camera flashes are also good - YongNuo and Neewer are pretty popular affordable solutions.

> Photoshop is also an extremely useful tool in car photography.

> I'd say to get the cheapest camera that has a hotshoe, shoots RAW, and has a remote trigger option. Get the cheapest lens with a useful zoom range. One example is the Sony NEX-5N. A tripod is essential. A circular polarizer is pretty useful for cutting down on unwanted glare & reflection.

Don't fall into the trap of getting a great camera and no lighting. Good luck :)

Sadly, the [$1498 Panasonic GH4] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LXB9UME/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00LXB9UME&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20) and [$1499 Samsung NX1] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NFDZRRA/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00NFDZRRA&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20) are both above your budget limit (especially when you factor in the cost of lenses).

The two best video cameras in your price range are the [$795 Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CWLSHUK/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00CWLSHUK&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20) and the [$698 Panasonic GH3] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009B0WREM/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B009B0WREM&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20) (these are sale prices and will probably go up after the holidays).

I own both of these cameras, and both produce awesome video images - but each has its advantages and disadvantages.

If you really want to learn cinematography - and you don't need a still camera, I recommend the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera. It is the least expensive interchangeable lens camera you can buy that records to RAW or 10-bit ProRes with 13+ stops of dynamic range - straight out of the box. Like Pro cinema cameras, it sets the shutter in degrees rather than fractions of a second and has a built-in headphone jack so you can monitor your audio track (only one other interchangeable lens camera below $1000 has a built-in headphone jack - the Panasonic GH3).

With a [$10 cold shoe] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HJFBUCQ/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00HJFBUCQ&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20), a [$24 pistol grip w trigger] (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575034783&toolid=10001&campid=5337235943&customid=&icep_item=221603818145&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg), a [$159 LCD viewfinder] (http://www.adorama.com/LCDVFBM.html?KBID=66297), a [$70 external battery adapter] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LPJ1FJ0/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00LPJ1FJ0&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20), a couple of [$10 batteries] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007Q9PWQ/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0007Q9PWQ&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20) and a [$17.50 dual battery charger] (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575034783&toolid=10001&campid=5337235943&customid=&icep_item=321347920244&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg) [Referral Links] - you'll have the best cinema camera in its class.

Here's what my setup looks like, ready to shoot: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f3hbYYV_y8o/VHDp77GMxoI/AAAAAAAAJF8/xnHRvNcCm5o/w724-h543-no/P1020575.JPG

Here is what this little powerhouse cinema camera can do:

Narrative

http://vimeo.com/89563847

http://vimeo.com/94798326

http://vimeo.com/101576471

Documentary

http://vimeo.com/83284391

Music Video

http://vimeo.com/88103618

Travel/Low Light

http://vimeo.com/79531723

There are lots more examples in the [Pocket Cinema Camera group] (https://vimeo.com/groups/pocketcamera) I moderate over on Vimeo.

Although it has a steeper learning curve than a consumer camera, and color grading in post is pretty much mandatory - this is absolutely the best filmmakers' camera in this price range.

Second choice:

If you want something that is a little easier to use, the GH3 might be a better choice. With its built-in electronic viewfinder that continues to work while you're shooting video, 1080/60p frame rate for slow motion, up to 72mbps recording and all metal splash resistant body - this is a great video/still camera for the price.

Here is what the GH3 can do:

Narrative

http://vimeo.com/49420579

http://vimeo.com/59543338

Music Video

http://vimeo.com/53834993

http://vimeo.com/96861718

Documentary

http://vimeo.com/66940018

http://vimeo.com/54076272

There are many more examples on Andrew Reid's GH3 channel over on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/groups/gh3

And, unlike the BMPCC, it can produce still photography results like these: https://www.flickr.com/groups/gh3/pool/

Hope this is helpful and best of the holidays!

IBIS will actually save you money and ENABLE you to be creative. You can buy vintage prime lenses and save money... and they are stabilized, how cool is that??? Or, you can get a solid lens like the Panasonic Lumix 12-35 and take advantage of dual IBIS. It's so steady, I am personally comfortable shooting interviews handheld all the time.

You also don't have to worry about buying camera support like weird shoulder rigs, monopods, tripods, etc.. Sure you may need and/or benefit from those things, but you can really just go out and start shooting NOW. It's a wonderful intimacy to be able to shoot handheld... you'll get the shots you want so much easier.

So yes, absolutely get the G85. Here's a great package with a ton of free accessories like Sandisk SD card, mic, backpack, and more. All links in this post are affiliate links.

Hi /u/abhpro - it depends on whether you want ease of use and high resolution or high bit rates and gradeability.

In your price range, if you really want to learn cinematography - and you don't need a still camera, I recommend the [<$1000 Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CWLSHUK/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00CWLSHUK&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20). It is the least expensive interchangeable lens camera you can buy that records to RAW or 10-bit ProRes with 13+ stops of dynamic range - straight out of the box. Like the GH4, it sets the shutter in degrees rather than fractions of a second and has a built-in headphone jack so you can monitor your audio track (only one other interchangeable lens camera below $1000 has a built-in headphone jack - the Panasonic GH3).

With a [$10 cold shoe] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HJFBUCQ/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00HJFBUCQ&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20), a [$24 pistol grip w trigger] (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575034783&toolid=10001&campid=5337235943&customid=&icep_item=221603818145&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg), a [$159 LCD viewfinder] (http://www.adorama.com/LCDVFBM.html?KBID=66297), a [$70 external battery adapter] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LPJ1FJ0/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00LPJ1FJ0&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20), a couple of [$10 batteries] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007Q9PWQ/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0007Q9PWQ&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20) and a [$17.50 dual battery charger] (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575034783&toolid=10001&campid=5337235943&customid=&icep_item=321347920244&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg) [Referral Links] - you'll have the best cinema camera in its class...

Here's what my setup looks like, ready to shoot: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f3hbYYV_y8o/VHDp77GMxoI/AAAAAAAAJF8/xnHRvNcCm5o/w724-h543-no/P1020575.JPG

Here is what this little powerhouse cinema camera can do:

Narrative

http://vimeo.com/89563847

http://vimeo.com/94798326

http://vimeo.com/101576471

Documentary

http://vimeo.com/83284391

Music Video

http://vimeo.com/88103618

Travel/Low Light

http://vimeo.com/79531723

There are lots more examples in the [Pocket Cinema Camera group] (https://vimeo.com/groups/pocketcamera) I moderate over on Vimeo.

Although it has a steeper learning curve than a consumer camera, and color grading in post is pretty much mandatory - this is absolutely the best filmmakers' camera in this price range.

Second choice:

If you want something that is a little easier to use, the [$1498 Panasonic GH4 bundle] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LXB9UME/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00LXB9UME&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20) [Referral Link] is probably a better choice. WIth its built-in electronic viewfinder (EVF) that continues to work while you're shooting video (unlike the T2i), built-in 1080/96p frame rate for slow motion, up to 200mbps recording, all metal splash resistant body - this is a great video camera for the price, even without 4K.

Here is what this camera can do:

Documentary

http://vimeo.com/110605931

http://vimeo.com/102924266

Travel

http://vimeo.com/99041955

http://vimeo.com/99523009

96fps Slow Motion

http://vimeo.com/100955334

http://vimeo.com/97096167

Music Video

http://vimeo.com/98759306

You'll find many more examples of what the GH4 can do in the ["GH4K" group] (https://vimeo.com/groups/gh4k) I moderate over on Vimeo.

...I own both of these cameras and, depending on how much work you want to do on set and in the editing suite, I can recommend either camera without reservation.

Good luck with your decision!

HCR

In your price range, I'd highly recommend a Sony NEX-5n, now $500 on Amazon with the kit lens: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Compact-Interchangeable-Touchscreen-18-55mm/dp/B005IHAIJ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347913499&sr=8-1&keywords=nex-5n .

I use one of these as my "walking around" camera. It's the same size and quality sensor as a full DSLR (APS-C, and a good one at that), but in a body that makes it easier to carry, either in the hand or a bag. Two days ago it would have been too expensive for you, at $700, but Sony just released it's successor, the NEX-5r, and so they dropped the price on the 5n by $200.

Search out the reviews: gold from dpreview.com, one of the best APS-C sensors that dxomark.com has tested, a favorite of engadget, etc.

No bridge camera can touch it for image quality. They're not much smaller than it either.

What you lose verses a full DSLR is some controls and the range/quality of lenses. Sony did a pretty good job, IMHO, with the NEX-5n's controls given how minimalist the design is, but a DSLR, even an entry level one, will have more knobs and buttons, giving you quicker direct control of settings. A DSLR will also come with a far larger range of lenses, and with some lenses of higher quality. The Sony NEX line of lenses is still growing, both in range and quality.

Here's some options that I like, if you don't mind buying used you'll have more room to buy more lenses and any other gear you'll like, but these are all new and all kits which includes the body and a lens. 

If you want to stick with Nikon the D5600 is an amazing camera, the image quality and usability are awesome. 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VW3KC9X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_M-GNDb4BPTVEJ

If your willing to spend a little more the D7100 is a great camera I can only find the body and not a kit but you could just get a lens separately.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/927106-GREY

You could also buy a Used D600 for around $600-$650 with a low shutter count if you are interested in full frame, then spend the rest on a lens.

For Canon If your on a budget I'd recommend something like the rebel 7ti 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P15K8Q7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IgHNDb2YN44GR

If you're willing to spend more the 77D is a great option, the first link the the 77D with a 18-55 and the second is a 18-55mm + 55-250mm

 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KVS93ZF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_KhHNDbV4SY44F
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y1YVWLH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vFHNDbWGFF6GX

As for mirrorless I recommend these cameras.

Canon EOS M50

 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TWB61Z2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_kxHNDb2NM14RY

Sony a6300

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007GK50X4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_xAHNDbN04X71G

Fujifilm X-T20 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NCVN74T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_pCHNDb74CQ8X6

I would suggest a high-quality compact camera like the RX100 line from Sony. The Mark III is $750. If you want to save money you can get the mark I for $450 (the III has a better lens). Don't get the mark II, it's an in-between model not worth the extra money.

Another outstanding camera is the Fuji X-T20 with 18-55mm kit lens for $999. The extra $250 over the RX100 M3 is worth for the excellent colors that come out of a Fuji (everybody is in love with them) and the ability to change lenses if you'll ever need to.

00You can also get the RX100 M1 for $250, RX100 M3 for $400, RX100 M6 for $900 and the X-T20 for $900 from Amazon Warehouse. They're open box items in very good condition, with Amazon's money back guarantee.

Full frame is going to give you the best low light performance for sure (the 6D is a solid choice, as will the Nikon D610 and Sony A7-series cameras).

That being said, light and small with average sensor size you'd do well to look at some of the modern APS-C offerings that Fuji and Sony have. Fuji has some crazy nice glass for their lenses, some of which is pretty affordable. You could pick up an X-T1 for ~$900 and 35mm f1.4 for ~$450 (or 35mm f2 WR for $300) for a solid start, then save up for a longer zoom lens in the future like their 50-140mm f2.8 OIS WR. Of course, there's also 3rd party options like Sigma making lenses for the X-mount too. And finally, this is all assuming you're buying brand new, you can save a good deal of money going the used route.

Mirrorless cameras aren't as much my expertise than DSLRs are but from reading reviews and opinions of my friends and colleagues I would have a look at the Olympus E-PL5. For the shallow DoF you might want to combine this camera with a fast prime lens such as the 45mm f1.7 or 20mm f1.7 or 17mm f1.8 either of these in combination with the camera should be in your price range. If you are comfortable buying something second hand you might be able to save a few bills for SD cards and the like.

It's hard to recommend without knowing what he's in to.

We've got a now 5 month old (1st child) and I can't say there was anything unique I found really helpful or couldn't live without. The only thing I asked for and very thankful for was a quality camera : Sony Nex5N. It's small and easy to carry/pack, lens upgradable, takes good photos (example)[http://i.imgur.com/Uw5fmMl.jpg] and video (example)[https://vimeo.com/157071017].
The gift that keeps giving really.

You're pretty short on time and not sure how much your willing to spend but you could get a couple people to go in with you.

I saw some cool ideas on Etsy - Pint Glass with date of birth, engraved dad wallet, shirts, etc.

I know he'd appreciate the camera if he doesn't already have one.
Congrats the new addition to your family!

I don't know your budget exactly, but I was in the same situation where I wanted something that could compare to my huge DSLR so I recently picked up an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and have been absolutely thrilled with it. The build quality is great, the photo quality is stellar, and it's weather-sealed so I don't need to panic whenever it starts raining. I got the kit with the 12-50mm lens (also weather-sealed) and it even has a macro feature.

I really really really like this camera.

ignore this comment, just a temporary step to make sure I have the formatting right before I paste it into the FAQ.

| Price | Used Mirrorless | New Mirrorless | Used DSLR | DSLR
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| under $100 | original NEX 3 (body only) | | |
| $100 - $200 |NEX F3, Nex 5, Nex 5R, Fuji X-E1 (body only) | |Canon 20D, 30D, T3 (body only), Nikon D3100 (body only), Sony A500 |
| $200-$300 | Fuji XE-1, Olympus E-m5 or E-m10 (body only) | | Canon T5, T3i, T2i|
| $300-$400 | Sony A5000, A6000 (body only) | |Canon 5D mark 1, 1D mark 2, 60D, T6, SL1, Pentax K-5 II/III, Nikon D3300, D7000 |
| $400-$500 | Ricoh GR | | | Nikon D3300
| $500-$700 | Fuji XT-1 | Sony A6000, Fuji X-A3| Nikon D700, D7100, T5i, T6i, 7D| Nikon D3400, Pentax K-50, K-S2, K-70 (body only), Canon SL1, T6, T5i
| $700-$1000 | Fuji X-T1, Sony A7| Fuji X-E2, Canon EOS M5, Olympus OM-D E-M5 II (body only) OM-E E-M10, Panasonic GH4 (body only) | Nikon D600/610, Canon 6D, 5DII, 80D | Pentax K-3ii (body only), K-70, Canon 70D, 80D, Nikon D7200
| $1000 - $1500 | Olympus OMD-M5 II, Fuji XPro2 (body only), Sony A7R | Fuji X-T10, Sony A6500, Panasonic G80/85, GX8 (body only)| Canon 7DII, Nikon D750, D800, Sony A99 | Pentax K-3 ii, Canon 6D, 80D, 7D2
| $1500 - $2000 | Sony A7s | Sony A7ii, OM-D E-M1, Fuji X-T2, Panasonic GH5 | Canon 5DIII, Nikon D810 | Nikon D750, D500, Pentax K-1 (body only)
| $2000+ | | Sony A7RII, A7SII | | Canon 1DX II, 1DC, 5D IV, 5DS, 5DS R, Nikon D5, D810, D810a, Df, Sony A99ii

| Price Range | Point & Shoot | Mirrorless | DSLR |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| $0-100 | Budget compacts. See the Snapsort ranking for suggestions. |||
| $100-200 | Mid-range compacts and superzooms. See the Snapsort ranking for suggestions.|||
| $200-300 | Some older premium cameras like the Canon S100. || Used models 7-9 years old. |
| $300-400 | More premium cameras like the Canon S120, Panasonic Lumix LX7, or Fuji XF1. | Micro Four Thirds systems like Olympus PEN or Panasonic Lumix G | Used models models 2-5 years old. |
| $400-500 ||| Used mid-tier models 4-6 years old.|
| $500-700 | Top-end point & shoot like the Fuji X20 or Sony RX100. | APS-C systems like Sony NEX or Samsung NX. | New entry-level models. Used full frame models. |
| $700-1000 ||| Mid-tier models like the Canon 60D or Nikon D7000. |
| $1000-1500 || Premium systems like Fuji X or premium Micro Four Thirds like the Olympus OM-D EM-5 or Olympus OM-D EM-1. ||
| $1500-2000 ||| Entry-level full frame models like the Canon 6D or Nikon D600. |

A6300 is a great camera, but it isn't full-frame. If you are looking for something in the Sony realm, I would suggest the the Sony A7. It's $998 or about $800-850 used. For a little bit more, you can also get the 24-70mm kit lens, which is a great focal length for landscapes. As far as the macro lens, the Sony FE 90mm f/2.8-22 Macro G OSS is incredibly sharp. The Sony 30mm f/3.5 is a pretty good option too.

good point. I guess what I am looking for is something that I can really have fun with. Something I can really play with in different light (night and day), something I can study, learn, and print images from. Looking for something more as a hobby that I can take on and off the trail with. This Olympus doesn't have the megapixels for prints as much as the Sony does but does get me something relatively affordable with lots of features to play with see here. At $575, I get two lenses to play with, "enough" pixels to maybe print something I like to hang on the wall. Seems pretty affordable and can always keep the lenses and upgrade the camera body if/when I get into it more. So to answer your question, I am looking to study photography, and get something that doesn't completely weigh me down on the trail.

Hi /u/pauloh110 - If you can't afford the [$1698 GH4] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I9GYG8O/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00I9GYG8O&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20) plus a [$599 Speed Booster] (http://www.adorama.com/MBSPEFM43BM1.html?KBID=66297) (which is what you'll need to get an APS-C crop similar to that of your 7D), you may want to save your money and wait for the October release of the APS-C [$1500 Samsung NX1] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NFDZRRA/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00NFDZRRA&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20). The image quality from this camera looks like it's going to be amazing: http://youtu.be/q_LzX6S0Pac

Good luck with your decision!

Bill

Thanks for the reply! These all look pretty good to me. I had done some research in the mean time and found this: Samsung NX200 20.3MP

Does this constitute a quality camera or is this considered a point and shoot as well? Also would this serve as a good starting camera? Thanks again

Have him go with the 2 lens kit PL6 by Oly, or at least check it out.

I adore that camera. It takes miraculous shots for being a $400 setup with 2 lenses. Looks like they're including the Flash Air card with it now. Pretty sweet!

The only thing I can't speak for personally is the video quality. I'm sure it's fine, but I don't think you're going to get anything super exciting, but it's not going to be piss poor either. Here's a sample video I found by googling. Seems good enough.

I'm going mirrorless from DSLR and trying to decide what to buy. I'm mostly going to use the camera for general purpose photography (parties, events, social gatherings, etc). Occasionally I would want to take pictures of wildlife like squirrels and other animals / pets. I'm also interested in taking super close up shots of things like insects and flowers. My budget is under $1000 for everything (including any extra lenses), though the cheaper the better as long as it works.

Is it worth getting the Olympus PEN E-PL6 bundle which is $399 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com//dp/B0160V0XD6) or should I fork a bit more over for the Sony a6000 bundle which is $729 at Costco (www.costco.com/Sony-a6000-Mirrorless-Digital-Camera-18-55mm-and-55-210mm-Lens-Bundle.product.100160949.html) ?

Both bundles come with two lenses, one general purpose and one zoom lens. How good are the lenses included in these bundles? In the past I bought a Canon Rebel that came with a really bad zoom lens, so I'm a bit wary. Are there any other lenses I should get for what I wanna do?

Both cameras are a few years old at this point and I'm afraid that if I buy them now, they will get outdated really quickly...

Hey guys I'm planning on buying my first camera soon, but i don't know a lot about cameras. Im interested in getting a compact camera instead of a DSLR camera. I'm torn between the Samsung NX200! and the Fujifilm X10!. Both are on amazon and under $400. My question is which camera takes better pictures? Any feedback is appreciated!

> 1 zoom that covers from ~40/50 to 180 ish

I assume you're referring to a telephoto lens here? The impact of focal length on field of view will differ depending on your format, so 40-180mm on the Olympus = 53-240mm on the Fuji = 80-360mm on a full frame camera.

So assuming that you're looking to keep a budget, and want to keep things small and light, my picks would look like this:

Olympus: Budget Kit

• Olympus E-M10II with 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 & 40-150mm f/4-5.6: $699
  
• Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 Pancake: $299
  
• Total: $1,000
  
  Olympus: Super Small Kit
  
  
• Olympus E-M10II with 14-42mm EZ: $699
  
• Panasonic 35-100mm f/4-5.6: $399
  
• Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 Pancake: $299
  
• Total: $1,400
  
  Fuji: Option 1
  
  
• Fuji X-T20 with 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6: $999
  
• Fuji 50-230mm f/4.5-6.7: $399
  
• Fuji 23mm f/2: $449
  
• Total: $1,850
  
  Fuji: Option 2
  
  
• Fuji X-T20 with 18-55mm f/2.8-4: $1,199
  
• Fuji 50-230mm f/4.5-6.7: $399
  
• No wide-angle prime; the 18-55mm kit lens might be fast enough at its wide end to suffice.
  
• Total: $1,600
  
  Considering the lenses into the equation, the Olympus is definitely more budget friendly, and offers the potential for a smaller kit. On the other hand, the Fuji 18-55mm f/2.8-4 kit lens is tempting if you don't like the idea of switching between primes and zooms.
  
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That was extremely helpful! Heres what I've got so far.

I'm torn between the G7 with a 12-140mm lens and the G85 with a 12-60mm lens. They are the exact same price (if I get the G7 with 14-42mm it's half the price) But from what I've read and watched, the G85 only seems marginally better and people say it hums whenever its on. Would getting the older G7 that comes with a better lens be a better purchase? (Links

https://smile.amazon.com/PANASONIC-Mirrorless-12-60mm-Megapixels-DMC-G85MK/dp/B01M050N05/ref=sr_1_3?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1523850414&sr=1-3&keywords=panasonic+g85

https://smile.amazon.com/PANASONIC-Mirrorless-14-42mm-Megapixels-DMC-G7KK/dp/B00X409TIC/ref=sr_1_3?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1523850401&sr=1-3&keywords=panasonic%2Bg7&th=1

G85, then G7) In your opinion, does the newer attributes of the G85 outweigh the much larger range lense of the G7 option? This video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_fjscdhJ0M ) makes the G85 stabilization seem very impressive. But I'm still on the fence, the 140mm capability of the G7 seems like it could remove the need for a long/tight shot lense.

As per the video you linked, I'm looking at getting the rode lavalier that the speaker mentions due to its convenience and price. I also subscribed and will be watching more.

https://smile.amazon.com/Rode-smartLav-Lavalier-Microphone-Smartphones/dp/B00EO4A7L0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1523850906&sr=8-3&keywords=rode+lavalier+microphone

And for room/atmosphere sound I was curious if you use a shotgun mic, or a traditional supercardoid boom mic more often if it is attached above the camera.

If there is any way I could repay you for all the help you've given let me know. You've saved me countless hours of research and hundreds (if not thousands) in mis-bought goods. When I got into recording and mixing I spent weeks researching mics and audio interfaces on forums, reviews, and asking people at my university for their opinion; but the information you have imparted has cut this time significantly in my pursuit of filming. Thank you very much.

Maybe consider a Panasonic G85 instead. They're 4K, but of course you could always edit at 1080. The image quality out of them is great, as long as you have decent enough lighting. The small sensors are ok, but not fantastic in lower light situations.

These cameras have image stabilization, and they won't overheat. You can also connect that to your Atomos if you want.

The other thing is, the G85 can be used with your Canon lenses, but you need an adapter.


Another option is the Sony A6500, but it's more expensive and the image stabilization isn't quite as good. The advantage of the A6500 though is that the low light performance is amazing compared to the G85.

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I am about to upgrade from a Sony HX400V to a Sony a6300 for my photography. In addition to toddlers a big part of what I do is take pictures of life to post to iNaturalist (Example 1, Example 2, Example 3, Example 4, Example 5 you can click on photos and hit original for a larger version). Therefore I am trying to set up a good macro system, eventually this will upgrade to an underwater system with the ikelite system so I want the lens to be compatible with that.

Here is what I am planning to purchase:

Sony a6300

Sony SEL90M28G FE 90mm f/2.8-22 Macro

SIRUI P-326 6 Section Carbon Fiber Monopod

Manfrotto 234RC Monopod Head Quick Release

Raynox DCR-250 Super Macro Snap-On Lens

Sigma Flash Macro Ring EM-140 DG

Movo Photo AF Macro Extension Tube Set

B+W 62mm XS-Pro Clear

Is any of this stuff likely to be useless for its intended function? Is there anything in this price range which is likely to be helpful that I forgot about? Is there anything less expensive which is just as good as one of the products I chose?

I would get this for sure!

I love this necklace, I love Alice in Wonderland!

How about a panasonic G80 ? Great camera in your budget. Great 4k, takes a microphone for clean audio, and has high framerate options. Amazon referral link

I will be moving to an Asian country for about 3 years in the military and looking to purchase my first camera for my wife and I.

We are currently pretty sold on the Song A6000 from reading all the reviews on it, it being our first and our budget.

Below is the deal I’m looking at. It’s $848 for the camera, 16-50mm lens and 55-210mm lens. We know nothing about cameras but really want to give it a shot, especially with us living in an Asian country.

We plan on taking lots of pictures of the landscape, daily street life, and traveling to other Asian countries and taking the same ones there. This includes monuments, Disney Parks, etc.

Would the 55-210mm lens be a good investment in the package for these types of pictures?


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B013GQCW5U/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1522186732&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=sony+a6000&dpPl=1&dpID=51OVXFZZ9AL&ref=plSrch

Thanks!

What a lovely contest, thank you! I'd like a gift card since I'm saving up for this.

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Panasonic G7. Depending on the type of kit lens you get with it, it's usually under $1000 dollars, or a little over it. It looks like the best camera in regards to specs.

I found a terrific deal on Amazon for it, along with extra equipment along with it for about $550:

https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Digital-14-42mm-Microphone-Accessory/dp/B01CF29K9M/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=panasonic%2Bg7&qid=1556346286&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&th=1

For travel, I would probably go with a mirrorless system like the EPL 5. The Sensor is not as big as a DSRL's but the image quality is pretty damn good. That or go with sony's NEX system like the NEX5 which does have a DSLR sized image sensor which would be a little better for low light shooting. I'm just thinking along the lines of large sensor with space/weight savings here. The only large sensor, fixed lens systems so far are Canon's G1X, Nikon's Coolpix A and Ricoh GR and all of those aside from the G1X would be outside your budget.

Am I mistakenly understanding things? How is X-T1 1/3 of the price of X-T2? Had a quick look on Amazon:


X-T1 $1300: https://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-Mirrorless-Digital-3-0-Inch-Resistant/dp/B00HYAL88W/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1487417981&sr=8-3&keywords=fuji+x-t1

X-T2 $1600: https://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-X-T2-Mirrorless-Digital-Body/dp/B01I3LNMAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487417994&sr=8-1&keywords=fuji+x-t2

So, what you're paying a measly additional $300 is a better sensor, better processor, better video, faster shutter speed, additional card slot. Among other things.

Obviously, both of the cameras are amazing, but if the prices are correct in my links, I would probably go with the X-T2 since it is a newer camera with better technologies.

Thanks! Right now I'm just using a Samsung NX2000 with the kit lens (20-50mm) and a tripod. The camera is actually a great starter camera for those looking to get into photography but want something compact and simple, yet powerful: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Compact-Interchangeable-Digital-20-50mm/dp/B00D5N6792

The only downside I've experienced with this camera so far is that it doesn't have a viewfinder, but for shots like this where you're using a tripod, it's not a big deal.

For this particular picture, I took it at f/10 with a 30" exposure since it was a night time shot and I wanted to capture the lights. You can look at this other picture I took with the same settings from Pier 14: http://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/2l7lzs/the_skyline_from_pier_14/

Hi,

Newbie. I'm looking for a good camera to take good pictures & video of my son.

I've read a bit & watched videos on the G7 and I'm leaning towards it.

There are two versions of it on Amazon and both are on sale for just under $600.

1. This one is the G7KK:
   https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-G7KS-Mirrorless-Camera-Silver/dp/B00X409PQS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1492010703&sr=8-2&keywords=panasonic%2Bg7%2Blumix&th=1
   
   
2. This one is the G7KS:
   https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0106CF62I?psc=1
   
   I like the second option because it includes a battery, bag, tripod, exc and I have none of these items.
   
   Is there a drastic difference between the G7KK & the G7KS?
   
   
   

> The X-T20 is more expensive than the current variant of the X100

X100F: $1,299

X-T20 with base kit lens: $999

X-T20 with high end kit lens: $1,199

Are you sure you're thinking of the same camera?

>and substantially more expensive than the A6000. It's on sale for as low as $550 on the regular, and keeps falling.

You've got to hunt for a sale for that. Regular price right now is $650 (or $700 if you're unlucky).

Yes, $650 to $999 is definitely a jump, but it's also a jump in performance.

>The X-A3 is inappropriate for lack of viewfinder,

Who said anything about needing a viewfinder? OP certainly didn't mention it.

>the A5000 and A5100 are horribly outmoded,

The a5100 is essentially the a6000 without a viewfinder...

>and the M10 has no options for cheap superwides - even the 12mm f/2 isn't all that broad on such a tiny sensor.

No, 12 mm isn't crazy wide on M43, but you can get a nice 9 mm body cap lens for under $100 from Olympus, which will do well (18 mm FF equivalent, 12 mm APS-C equivalent), and if that isn't wide enough enough for you, you can get the Rokinon/Samyang 7.5 mm f3.5 for $200-$250 (15 mm FF, 10 mm APS-C), or the Panasonic Lumix G Vario 7-14mm F4 ASPH for $700 if you want something wider than you can buy native on E Mount or X Mount (14 mm, 9.3 mm).

Keep in mind that 8 mm on a M43 camera is an 180 degree field of view. You can't really go much wider unless you're shooting with a lens that can shoot backwards.

that looks bulky, get a mirror less Canon EOS M3 which sounds like what you would need with friends since it has a selfie option and the screen flips. I just got one of these too for everyday use and for pics with my gf or friends.

https://www.amazon.com/Canon-Mirrorless-Camera-18-55mm-Stabilization/dp/B014EOM7QW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1492985693&sr=8-3&keywords=eos+m3

I don't think you understand what I am saying at all. Never did I say that "I pay more, therefore you give me bigger camera!", I said for the quality of picture and the size of the camera, you can get a entry level dslr that has better specs that produces a better image.

Now, if portability is the main feature, why the hell would s/he pick up one of the bigger m4/3s camera when there are smaller more affordable alternatives that give a quality image that is very comparable to the OMD.

And I don't know why you keep going on about weather sealing like a drop of liquid ruins cameras. I have taken the 5n out in the rain many times with an umbrella and it has been great.

For price perspective, Sony NEX 5n is around 700$ while the OMD is around $1300.

It is pretty clear that when it comes down to it, it is about the picture the camera (and the photographer) takes. Paying the extra 600 dollars is not worth it to me and I thought it might not be to the op. If it is, then I really don't care because you're right, the OMD is a great camera. However, just because I suggest a different camera, doesn't mean it is the wrong choice.

The body is $1000 new, so that seems like a good deal, if that's what you want. A couple of lenses and you'll be down another $500 or more.

But it sounds like the Sony might make more sense to you.

https://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-Mirrorless-Digital-3-0-Inch-Resistant/dp/B00HYAL88W

I went with a 4/3 sensor mirrorless camera, the Olympus OM-D EM10 Mark II. For under $600 I have two kit lenses and in-body stabilization. I love the photo quality.

It is smaller and lighter, so I carry it more places than I might a A6000 (which I considered) with it's heavier larger lenses. The impetus was an upcoming ship cruise in Europe where I'll be on-shore a bunch and seeing historical sites and such.

I think the Panasonic G7 is also 4/3 sensor format.

The Mark III version of the Olympus OM-D also is worth considering.

Here is the Amazon link to the deal I got, and you might find it cheaper at Adorama:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CIXJK16?th=1

Some thing like the Samsung NX2000 ( http://amzn.com/B00D5N6792 ) seems more feasible, though I'm sure there's a better camera for the money.

Which one of these three should I get? I'm going on a trip to Europe and would like to have a dedicated camera for pictures and ocassional videos.

Canon EOS M3

Sony A6000

Olympus OM-D E-M 10

Panasonic LUMIX DMC-G7KS DSLM Mirrorless 4K Camera

Lumix G7 with the 14-140 lens would definitely make him happy. If you get the 14-42 version, a few accessories would go a long way.

In that price range, you have a couple of options. I would look at the Canon Rebel T6i or the Sony a6000 as your two top choices. Those links offer nice packages in that price range.

I would also look at the used Canon/Sony market for deals on 1-2 year older camera's that offer video. Note the DSLR video is just now getting really good (5DMK4, 1DX2, Sony A7R, etc.) so if you go two generations back, they kind of suck.

DPReview.com is a great site for looking at options... check out this link.

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In addition to my comment below, does this or this seem like a good deal then?

Here are the best prices I have found so far

https://www.amazon.com/Olympus-V207051BU010-Mirrorless-Digital-40-150mm/dp/B01CIXJK16/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1491159552&sr=8-3&keywords=olympus+em10+mark+ii

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8BICB2/ref=twister_B00Q7QEPY8?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

It's hard to recommend anything in the $200 range (maybe this), but if you can do more this would be a good option.

There are mirrorless cameras that have similar quality to DSLRs and are only slightly larger than a point and shoot. Micro 4/3rds cameras might be your best bet. Something like this. If you don't want to change lenses...well then you don't have to...

If I wanted a mic attachment, would this be a better bundle? I hear a rode mic really helps the sound quality

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071GD2X73/ref=psdc_7242008011_t2_B01MXHN32J

You can buy an x-t1 for $700 used, look at the one sold by Michael, it's $716 for essentially a brand new x-t1.

The x-t2 is gonna be $1600, and it's pretty much x-pro2 in a x-t1 body. So it's up to you, is the new model worth $900 more than the old one? Check out xt1 vs xpro2, check out the image comparison slider, because xpro2 has the same sensor as the xt2 so you'll know what you're getting.

Personally I would only get x-t2 if I got paid to shoot professional photographs and client needed some really big ass resolution photos, otherwise it's not worth it. I would also check out the x100t in terms of smaller form factor.

As for the new model stuff, spend money on travel, not gear. With $900 you could buy good hiking gear. Which photo is more interesting, 1 or 2? First was taken with an iPhone while hiking through some random norwegian mountain, 2nd is my own backyard taken with x-t1. I'd take the iphone pic over the xt1 pic anyday.

I have an Olympus Pen E-P1 that is pretty decent. I believe the E-PL5 is the newest one available? Interchangeable lenses. Not as powerful as a DSLR, but has some added features some point and shoots don't have. Small and lightweight as well.

Looking to get my first camera outside of just using my phone.

Budget - I would like to stay under 500$ but tax return season could add a bit to that.

Type of Photos - I plan on mostly using it for landscape and general walking around photography but I would also like to shoot motocross races from time to time.

Right now I have my sights set on an Olympus PEN E-PL6 with both the M.14-42mm f3.5-5.6 2R and the M.40-150mm R f4.0-5.6 lenses, all for 399$. Would that be a good choice? I figure Micro 4/3 would be a nice form factor to start using and keep up with down the road.

Also, I am a rather big guy, 6' 5", will I have any problems using smaller cameras control-wise? Are some cameras buttons and wheels difficult to use with bigger hands?

The original Sony a7 is actually quite a bargain for a full frame sensor and is well within the budget of op. However, it doesn't have the great image stabilization.

I'm interested in getting my first real camera. I tend to go to a lot of car events, particularly events around motorsports. I also do some out door travel and want to be able to capture it all.

I am looking at Fuji X-T20 kit (https://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-X-T20-Mirrorless-XF18-55mmF2-8-4-0-OIS/dp/B01NCVN74T - I'm not paying that much, my price should be around ~$900 FWIW).

My questions are - how would this camera handle shooting fast moving items like motorsports? I don't necessarily want to use it for high zoom track shots but if I had the lens for it how would it act?

As its not a sealed body so not weather proof, what worry do I have for outdoor usage in dust or moisture environments?

Thanks!

Holy shit, thats amazing.

Wait, so this can take video like that out of the box?!

I'll help you make the switch quick.

The Sony A7 (body) is available for $798. Brand new. Get it before the price goes back up. This is a Black Friday deal.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FRDUZXM/ref=twister_B00PBBE4DC?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

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In your opinion, how would something like this fare: https://www.amazon.com/Mirrorless-Camera-16-50mm-55-210mm-Lenses/dp/B013GQCW5U/ref=sr_1_10?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1525116278&sr=1-10&keywords=mirrorless+camera

I kind of agree, but a camera that would offer a significant image quality upgrade is not too far off from $200 http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-Mirrorless-Digital-Camera-14-42mm/dp/B0096WDMGC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450185915&sr=8-1&keywords=olympus+epl5

X-T2 was on Amazon July 8 2016 and released Sept 2016.

This graph shows the first drop of $100 during the holiday sales around Oct 2017. This is one year out for any discount. Discount of $500 to current price started about 2 years after it was announced.

So I would expect 1 year minimum for any discount. 2 years from announce for sizable discount.

The graph for X-T1 shows the same 2 years for serious discount timing.

I use an Olympus E-PL5 for my touring and I can't complain, though newer cameras in the line have since superseded it. The E-PM2 is similar yet is slightly smaller.

https://www.amazon.com/Mirrorless-Camera-16-50mm-55-210mm-Lenses/dp/B013GQCW5U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1524461157&sr=8-5&keywords=a6000

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Mirrorless-Digital-16-50mm-55-210mm/dp/B00NO1T55I/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1524461157&sr=8-6&keywords=a6000

Both $698, but the first comes with a bunch of accessories too.

This guy?

Or this

would this be it? https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Full-Frame-Mirrorless-Digital-28-70mm/dp/B00FRDUZXM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499884779&sr=8-1&keywords=sony%2Balpha%2Ba7&th=1

and if I were to up my budget, should I go for the a7 II?

Christ you can get a new A7 for sub $1300! Used have got to be going for less than $1000 now that the A7ii is out.

Liveu is 1k plus around 800 a month for the 4 data plans required for the liveu I think. Ice also uses a https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Full-Frame-Mirrorless-Digital-Camera/dp/B00FRDUZXM rx7 mirrorless camera

Is it this?

http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-OM-D-E-M5-Interchangeable-Camera/dp/B0074WDFOK

You can get a Sony a7 brand new for just below that, and although Sony lenses are expensive, if you are confortable with manual focus, legacy lenses are very affordable.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00HYAL88W/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1473609540&sr=8-1&keywords=x-t1&condition=used

Amazon's got used ones just about $400 right now and they're always a little higher than what you could get on craigslist if you're talking to the right person.

Compare it with the new Samsung NX1. I'm leaning that way right now.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NFDZRRA/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00NFDZRRA&linkCode=as2&tag=epact&linkId=FXAZYMWZC4JVNLAG

I started photography with this bundle. Still using the same kit and made my money back from it within a month doing odd jobs for different companies. The 6500 is relatively expensive and it does the same job as a6000 (bar built in stabilization) with this bundle and a gimbal you’re basically set.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013GQCW5U/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B013GQCW5U&linkCode=as2&tag=jackoconnor00-20&linkId=68f04c894eee3152ee335206af29aff0

• Fujifilm X-T2 with 18-55mm for ~1000
  
• X-T1 and 35mmF2 / 50mmF2 or a 23mmF2 (comparable to field of view of 35mm on full frame) for ~750
  
• Replace X-T1 with X-T20 if you drop weatherproof requirement.

Oops, my bad. Here's the other one. I guess what appealed to me with the first one was the flash and microphone. Speaking of which, do you think the microphone is necessary? And now that I think of it, that flash probably is of no use, being that it's used only for photography I'm guessing?

Do you recommend any must-haves? Such as a shoulder tripod (I think it's called), or some type of lighting if I'm shooting indoors?

Edit: Also, would you consider buying a lens a basic necessity?