(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best brass instruments

I got her this pretty much blew my paycheck away (after bills and rent) and I just have enough for groceries. But I know it'll make her happy.

I'll have to see if I can hunt down a teacher. One model in particular I'm looking at is Jean Paul intermediate

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CYA7L6E/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I21DVQK371IKS2&colid=1Z8TGKYI4YWUE

Does that look good?

I have a Yamaha Advantage trumpet that plays smoother than what i’ve seen at around this price point. This is similar to what I use currently and I suggest taking a look.

I'm looking at this trumpet if anyone cares
Mendini MPT-N Nickel Plated Bb Pocket Trumpet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0050F3YQM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_0zo.BbB79Z3A9

For those interested in picking one up...

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just by the picture you linked to it looks to me that it's stamped into the top plate. If it really is stamped, just return it and get this one instead

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.amazon.com/OMalley-Instruments-Bb-ContraBass-Trombone/dp/B00M85J36W&ved=2ahUKEwjmgoTt6t3gAhVNeawKHSygAGoQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw12PTypWFtNIIT-TBL_PqSM Thats $2500 off Amazon

This is the instrument that they cloned.. https://www.amazon.com/Bach-Stradivarius-F-Attachment-Trombone-Lightweight/dp/B000T08VIO/

The Cecilio is about 15% of the price of the Bach.. so yes, the advantage is that while it's not a name brand, it is much, much less expensive, without nearly the same drop in quality that you might expect for an instrument that is priced so much lower than comparable instruments.

https://www.amazon.com/pBone-Jiggs-Plastic-Trombone-Red/dp/B0064RPOBI

$100 brand new on Amazon

A trombone pitched a fourth higher, in Eb.

You can buy one for under $100: https://www.amazon.com/pBone-PBONE2R-Plastic-Trombone-Beginners/dp/B00BR1IY9U

Also see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqjW5_BbodM

Yamaha YSL-448G Intermediate Trombone https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007AGMK5K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_lUrPDbG6AMYMV

She has lost her trumpet. Tell her to look behind the sofa.

I bike with my horn in my Ritter gig bag on my back.

EDIT: Similar to this (just an older model)

https://www.amazon.com/Jupiter-Valve-Intermediate-Euphonium-468L/dp/B00548677I

Pocket Trumpet?

I sorted by Prime and 4+ stars

Mendini MPT-N Nickel Plated Bb Pocket Trumpet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0050F3YQM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_iR5hDb3QATZ4K

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the resistance to rotating is a function of the instrument's moment of inertia (in the same way that the resistance to accelerating is a function of its mass).

looking at amazon listings for each instrument (trombone, marching baritone) gives an estimate of the weight and lengths:



Instrument | Dimensions | Weight
---|---|----
Trombone | 58.6 x 10.8 x 10.8 inches* | 10.83 lbs
Marching Baritone | 25.4 x 17.9 x 14.6 inches | 19.15 lbs

the listing for the trombone has its length as 35 inches. i'm not a brassematician, but i am vaguely aware that you can extend a trombone, and this yamaha page suggests that its maximum extended length is 60 cm. so 60 cm + 35 inches = 58.6 inches.

the difficulty of rotating each instrument would depend on the axis about which you were trying to rotate it. here is a diagram of some possible axes you might choose. the green axis maximizes the effect of the increased length of the trombone. the red axis also maximizes the length effect, with the additional restriction that the axis passes through the center of mass of each instrument. the purple axis is selected as an example of a choice of axis that favors the marching baritone.

i approximated the instruments as being prisms the size of their outer dimensions with a uniform density and applied the relevant formulas for moment of inertia to obtain the following table:


Instrument | Axis through middle (green)| Axis at edge (red) | Axis at edge (purple)
---|---|---|----
Trombone | 3205 in^2 lbs | 12502 in^2 lbs | 526 in^2 lbs
Marching baritone | 1370 in^2 lbs | 4459 in^2 lbs | 2385 in^2 lbs

so it is very possible for the increased length of the trombone to cause it to be more difficult to rotate, but it is very dependent upon how you're rotating each instrument.

> I played the euphonium and that shit costs as much as a car.

I'm sorry I doubted you