If you're not opposed to getting things separately, then I have some recommendations and suggestions. There's also some info you should know if you want to get better value for your money. I've explained in the least technical way I can. Just ask if you have questions.

🎧 Headphones

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Open-back:

• AKG K612 Pro
  
• AKG K701
  
• AKG K702
  
• Audio-Technica ATH-AD700x
  
• Audio-Technica ATH-AD900x
  
• Beyerdynamic DT880
  
• Beyerdynamic DT990
  
• Philips Fidelio X2
  
• Sennheiser Game One (headset)
  
• Sennheiser HD558/HD579
  
• Sennheiser HD598/HD599
  
  Closed-back:
  
  
• AKG K550
  
• Audio Technica ATH-MSR7
  
• Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro Plus
  
• Beyerdynamic DT770
  
• Sennheiser Game Zero (headset)
  
• V-MODA Crossfade M-100
  
   
  
  The first thing you should determine is whether you need sound isolation or not.
  
  
• Open-back: the earcups have perforations/openings that allow sound to freely pass through. This often provides a larger soundstage and better imaging.
  
  
• Closed-back: the earcups have solid shells that isolate sound from passing through to various extent.
  
   
  
  Next, you should figure out which sound signature you prefer.
  
  
• Balanced/flat/neutral: doesn't over- or under-emphasize the bass or treble.
  
• Warm: emphasizes the bass.
  
• Dark: recesses the treble. A headphone can be warm and dark.
  
• Bright: emphasizes the treble. Bass may be recessed.
  
• U-shape: emphasizes the bass and treble a little.
  
• V-shape: emphasizes the bass and treble more than U-shaped.
  
• Mid-forward: the mids are louder than the bass and treble. The mids may be emphasized or the bass and treble may be recessed.
  
  Sub-bass is where rumble lies. This is easier to find in closed-back headphones. Mid-bass is where impact lies.
  
   
  
  Lastly, you should know what sound characteristics constitute positional audio and pertain to immersion.
  
  
• Soundstage: is produced by the headphone, not the game. It's perceived space and environment of sound. It's the size of the sound field. A small soundstage makes the environment around you sound confined or boxed in. With a large soundstage, the environment sounds much more spatial, open and natural. You can't comprehend it without experiencing it.
  
  
• Imaging: is inherent to the audio content. It's how accurately the locations of sounds/objects are reproduced.
  
  
• Separation: is how you discern individual sounds from a range of overlapping sounds. This is only important for competitive shooters.
  
   
  
  Of the listed headphones, I have Audio-Technica ATH-AD700x, Beyerdynamic DT990 (600 ohms), Philips Fidelio X2 and Sennheiser HD598.
  
  
• AD700x: is bright with recessed sub-bass. It has clean bass and a little harsh treble. It has a huge soundstage, excellent imaging, separation and clarity, and great detail retrieval.
  
  It has a lightweight and durable build without flimsy and squeaky parts. The earpads are made of smooth, non-itchy velour and are very soft. They have a good size and depth for average sized adult ears and have very good quality. The clamping force isn't too tight or too loose for an average sized adult head. The wing design is a gimmick to me; the headphone slides down and rests on my ears, but using a headband cover like this prevents it from happening and makes the headphone extremely comfortable to wear.
  
  
• DT990: has emphasized mid-bass, recessed sub-bass, and very emphasized treble. The bass is clean. The treble is slightly splashy and somewhat sharp. It has a huge soundstage and excellent imaging, separation, clarity and detail retrieval. The 600-ohm version requires an external/dedicated headphone amplifier or a sound card.
  
  It has a lightweight and sturdy build without flimsy and squeaky parts. The earpads are made of silky smooth velour and are very soft. They have a good size and depth and have great quality. The clamping force is just right. It's extremely comfortable to wear.
  
  
• Fidelio X2: has emphasized sub-and mid-bass and treble. It has clean bass and smooth treble, meaning the treble isn't harsh, scratchy, splashy, piercing or anything else that's offensive to the ears. The soundstage is very wide, like the others I've mentioned, but it lacks some depth. It's probably only noticeable if you play competitively or compare it head-to-head with other headphones that are deeper. This affects the imaging from front to back somewhat. The imaging from left to right is excellent. Separation and clarity are excellent. Detail retrieval is great. The bass overpowers sound cues a lot.
  
  It's a little heavy and has a sturdy build without flimsy and squeaky parts. The earpads have great quality and are soft, very roomy, and made of smooth velour. The clamping force is more on the tighter side. The comfort is very good.
  
  
• HD598: is mid-forward with recessed sub-bass. It has clean bass and smooth treble. I haven't used it much, so my impressions of its competitive performance are that it has a large soundstage and good imaging, separation and detail retrieval. Clarity is excellent.
  
  It has a lightweight and sturdy build without flimsy and squeaky parts. The earpads are soft and made of smooth velour. They have a good size and depth and have very good quality. The clamping force is tight, especially when the headphone is new. It's comfortable to wear.
  
  

  
  

  
  I also compare to AKG K52, AKG Q701, HiFiMan HE400i (the revision), HiFiMan HE500, HyperX Cloud, Philips SHP9500, Monoprice Monolith M1060, Sennheiser HD700, Sennheiser HD800, Superlux HD662 EVO, Superlux HD668B, Superlux HD669, Superlux HD681 EVO, Tritton Pro+ and Turtle Beach Ear Force XP Seven MLG Pro.
  
  My evaluations are based on games -- not music. I test headphones mostly in BF:BC2, BF3, BF4 and R6S.
  
   
  
  

  🔊 Microphones
  

  
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• Antlion ModMic 4: it attaches magnetically to a base that sticks to either earcup. It's easy to attach and detach and doesn't fall off unless you accidentally hit it or violently move your head around. The mic has a flexible neck and can be tilted up and out of sight. It has a very good build quality and great sound quality for voice chat. It's compatible with all headphones.
  
  
• V-MODA BoomPro: it inserts directly into the headphone, replacing the original headphone cable. It's compatible with Philips Fidelio X2 and V-MODA Crossfade M-100. It has a great build quality with an aluminum gooseneck and a tangle-free and braided cable. It has volume and mic mute controls. It has great sound quality for voice chat.
  
  

  
  

  
  Alternatives:
  
  

• Antlion ModMic 5
  
• Audio-Technica AT2020USB
  
• Blue Snowball
  
• Blue Yeti
  
• Massdrop Minimic (currently unavailable)
  
• Neewer Clip on Mini Lapel Microphone
  
• Samson Go
  
• Sony ECMCS3
  
• Zalman ZM-Mic1
  
   
  
  

  Additional gear and accessories
  

  
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  Volume and mic mute control for use with DS4:
  
  

• adjustR
  
• Fosmon
  
• Insignia
  
• Lucid Sound AdjustR
  
  

  
  

  
  USB adapters:
  
  

• BENGOO
  
• Ugreen, single jack
  
• Ugreen, dual jacks
  
  

  
  

  
  Amplifier and DAC combos:
  
  

• Audioengine D1
  
• FX Audio DAC-X6
  
• Micca OriGen G2
  
• Schiit Magni 3 + FiiO D3
  
• SMSL SD793-II
  
  To use an amp, you need a DAC (digital-to-analog converter) because USB and optical are digital signals and PS4 has no analog outputs. USB DACs may reverse the left and right channels or not work at all, so I have only included DACs that use optical, which is completely reliable. You can use an HDMI-to-optical converter if you have Slim.
  
   
  
  Sound cards:
  
  
• Astro MixAmp Pro TR
  
• Creative Sound BlasterX G1
  
• Creative Sound BlasterX G5
  
• Turtle Beach Elite Pro TAC
  
   
  
  

  Setup
  

  
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  To connect the headphone and ModMic, Minimic, Neewer clip-on mic, ECMCS3 or ZM-Mic1 to the controller, you need a Y-splitter with three black rings on the connector, which is called a TRRS or 4-pole Y-splitter.
  
  If you want to use an amp and a DAC, then the mic must connect to the controller with a Y-splitter. The headphone connects directly to the amp. To avoid this clutter, you can use a sound card / USB adapter instead. You may have to use a Y-splitter if it has just one jack.
  
  The BoomPro doesn't require a Y-splitter and works only with the controller, sound cards, and other devices that have a TRRS jack, meaning they are designed for headsets. The BoomPro doesn't work with amps and DACs.
  
  

I might be able to help you here. I had the G933 Artemis Spectrum headphones. They were alright — I didn’t realize at the time that I had to have them hooked to a PC in order to take advantage of the virtual surround sound, so I never got to experience that with the PS4.

I decided I would invest some money into getting a really good pair of headphones after that, but I wanted to get a unicorn... something that was good for music, movies, and games. I settled on an open back pair that had incredible reviews for the price tier. And, I spent over $300 on it just over a year ago... but you can get the same model (it’s the Philips Fidelio X2/HR) for only $122 on sale on Amazon Prime right now. I think that’s a killer deal for these, and they’re HiRes also in case you like to listen to premium, high bit rate formate stuff.

They’re incredibly comfortable and have a ski goggle style design, so you could have a head the size of a watermelon and they’d cradle on it gently. Open back, big sound stage. Great quality cable, too. They’re wired though, but I really like that they’re the kind where the jack is on the headphones themselves so if the cable ever fails you can replace it and not have to replace the whole headset. So what I did is I bought a V-Moda Boom Pro Mic that plugs directly into the headset and has a flexible boom mic and a volume dial w/ mute switch on the cable, and then you plug that into the PS4 dualshock or computer. You don’t need to buy a headphone amp/DAC to power them either, which is nice.



I wasted money buying one of the Astro A40 MixAmp Pro TR boxes so I could get the virtual Dolby surround, but I wouldn’t bother. Instead, I prefer to just run a long cable from my home theater amp/receiver’s headphone out, since that’s basically one huge amp/DAC anyway, and you can drive these things up to some serious volume. You also get a much better quality sound with them and the mic combo, versus buying a gaming headset (where they jack up the price quite a bit).

If you’re looking for a wireless option, you could check out the Steel Series Arctic Pro — that link is for the one with the game DAC with DTS Headphone X and you can use it on the PC and PS4 (for $199), or the wireless version for $315. I’ve heard a lot of people say these are pretty good but I’ve not heard them myself. If you’re looking for something cheaper, maybe the HyperX Cloud for $100ish.

I recently picked up a pair of in ear buds also — the 1MORE E1010 Quad Driver for $170 that come with a little Fiio A1 headphone amp. They’re pretty nice so far, I’ve been playing “Death Stranding” with them.



I’d check out /r/headphones and you could also read the sidebar over at /r/headphoneadvice and make a post detailing the exact setup and price range and what you’re looking for and have people make recommendations. Also in the sidebar there are some popular model headphones, amps, and mics. I think most people will tell you that buying a good pair of headphones and adding the mic is better (either the VModa BoomPro or there’s another that sticks to the side of the cup like a magnet for the same-ish price). You’ll get better sound than a gaming headset, and more for the money. And you can use those savings to buy a headphone amp/DAC if you want also, which will boost the volume and bass and maybe even give you virtual surround if that’s something you feel like you really need.

I know this is long, but I figured since I was familiar with what you’d used previously (the G933s) and was on a similar hunt not so long ago, I’d share my findings with you. If you find a great set and you happen to remember, hit me up and let me know what you grabbed so I can maybe try to demo them somewhere for myself. And if you do buy the Phillips Fidelio X2/HRs from Amazon, you could always listen to them a bit and send them back if they’re not for you. But I think you’ll be pretty impressed. I definitely was, at twice the price they’re going for now. Good luck!

Having a long micro usb cable to keep a wireless controller charged is a good call (though you need to keep your system in standby if that is where you charge from)

However, i would recommend getting a second controller (some good couch co-op games this gen) and a dock like this: http://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Controller-Charging-Station-PlayStation-4/dp/B00ENFVJJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1411572210&sr=8-1&keywords=ds4+dock
and then just swap controllers when one dies.

There are a bunch of free-to-play games now, so you might have things to play before you start paying $60 for AAA games (I got into warframe for a while, but it is confusing to start). Also, a lot of cheaper ($10-20) indies too.

Of course i'd recommend paying the $30-$40/yr for PS+ (it should hit $30 on black friday, but you can find $40 every now and then. Normal price is $50/yr) you probably got a free one month card with your console, keep an eye out for the cheaper sales (this subreddit seems good for that) subscription stack. So if you can go until november, grab a couple for cheap then.

PS+ includes a bunch of free games every month, and further discounts on others. Of course the PS4 games are there (2 per month) but often times the vita or PS3 games might be on multiple systems and are "cross buy" or buy once play on any system. Also, go on a computer and "buy" all of the available games each month. It doesn't cost anything and sometimes a PS4 version of the game comes out later and is "free" if you had grabbed the other version when it was available. (happened recently with hotline miami.)

The camera accessory isn't necessary yet, don't worry about it.

A vita is a pretty great system on it's own, but it is really great paired with a PS4. You can remote play the system, leaving the TV open for other folks. This can work on the same network, but also from far away too (I've done it between NYC and Chicago but there was some noticeable delay, great for some games, not great for others (shooters)).

There are a bunch of great subreddits for various games (or trophy hunting, or finding PSN friends) so check those out.

Personally i'm just playing destiny now, but there is already a huge catalog of great games. Just don't listen to the nobs who complain about all the indies. They are some of my favorite games and they certainly aren't slowing down big games like Destiny, but you hear about it a lot on subs like this.

In my opinion, the best option is to buy a regular pair of great headphones, then buy a mic to go with them. No gaming headset will sound as good as a pair of headphones for the same price. Get a pair of headphones in your price range, then a mic and the audio splitter will be an extra $18.
I currently use a pair of Audio Technica M50x's, which I bought to listen to music with and wound up using them for gaming. They are very comfortable and sound fantastic, although I personally wish they had a bit more bass, for gaming. For a microphone, I prefer the Pyle-Pro PMEM1 Headworn Mic, because it sounds far better than any other microphone I’ve used. Some people like the Zalman Clip mic, but in my experience it didn’t capture my voice clearly and picked up a ton of ambient noise. I just wear the mic underneath the headphones, which is perfectly comfortable. MAKE SURE YOU BUY A SPLITTER! The mic won’t work on the PS4 without one. I use this one. Overall, it’s ~$180 for a great gaming setup, and you get an amazing pair of headphones that you can listen to music with and wear out of the house.
If you want to look into a different pair of headphones, The Wirecutter has some phenomenal advice on headphones. They also have a list for gaming headsets, and I would take their advice on those if you have your heart set on a headset.

Consider getting a cheaper pair of headphones The Wirecutter recommends if you won’t use the M50x’s for anything else other than gaming, but they are among the best headphones for listening to music, and work great for gaming.

Headphones:
https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Pro-PMEM1-Headworn-Omni-Directional-Microphone/dp/B003D2S7HA/ref=pd_ybh_a_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8HYQKPP2BHCSX3M8WW8N

Mic:
https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Pro-PMEM1-Headworn-Omni-Directional-Microphone/dp/B003D2S7HA/ref=pd_ybh_a_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8HYQKPP2BHCSX3M8WW8N

Splitter:
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-headsets-separate-headphone-microphone/dp/B004SP0WAQ/ref=pd_ybh_a_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=05264WVDYHC2FG0SSX1W

Other Headphones:
http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/

I can't believe that after 173 comments, no one has the explanation as to why this is the case. I guess it's finally my time to shine. Simply put, the PS3 uses a wi-fi standard that's currently in most homes today. The PS4 uses a newer, faster standard. So why is it slower then? Because most people's routers aren't upgraded to this new standard yet. Sony made the PS4's wi-fi module more future-proof, but as of now it's definitely too future-proof. There are two work-arounds to this issue. You either A) buy a router that uses the new wi-fi standard or the better option IMO, B) buy one of these genius little network powerline adapters. Why do I think the powerline adapter is better? It's cheaper than most routers that use the new wi-fi standard and it's a wired connection. You ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS, want a wired connection with your gaming devices. Save the wi-fi for your phones and tablets. Wire connections are faster and more stable than wi-fi. The network powerline adapter allows you to have a wired connection even if you don't have the ethernet wire routed to the room with your PS4.



"But wait u/IVIajesty, how does this marvelous machine pull off such a magical feat???"



It's simple young padawon. You connect the first module into the outlet and into your router. It sends the ethernet connection throughout your homes circuiting. You connect the second module into the outlet by your PS4 and into your PS4 via ethernet cable, and alakazam! The internet signal is transferred over through the rooms. It's like having a wired connection, without having a wired connection! Woo!



Bonus LPT: If you have an electronics store like Best Buy or Fry's by you, you can buy the device from them and make sure it works. If it doesn't, they have 15 day return policies. This device works in pretty much 99% of home circuiting layouts. There are a few cases where the circuiting of the home isn't compatible with this device, but it's rare. If it doesn't work, you can always return it.



Bonus-Bonus LPT: Best Buy and Fry's both price check, so if it's cheaper on Amazon or any other reputable online vender, make sure you take advantage of that to save a couple extra bucks.



Edit: Used some bolding and italics to make my comment sexier.
Edit 2: It seems as though I might've have confused standard with a different word or I might've gotten my info from an unreliable source. Crossed out the wrong info. Guess I'm not a savior after all :'(

I assume you are asking about these:

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHP9500S-Precision-Over-ear-Headphones/dp/B00ENMK1DW

Higher quality/high fidelity audio compatible equipment would mostly only benefit you if you had hi res audio to listen to in the first place, plus with that relatively small impedance of 32 ohms they are very easily powered, the jack on the DS4 is enough. These are relatively low-tier headphones so don't go too high on externals for them, it won't help as much as you want them too, but they will help nonetheless.


A small/portable amp for the these headphones would do some good for you in games where 3D/spatial/positional sound awareness can give you an advantage in game, such as in FPS games. If you play those a lot, especially competitively, I recommend it.
If we are talking about the same headphones, then that 12-35 Hz range will be awesome for what I just mentioned, as lower frequencies (especially when amplified) will make footsteps easier to make out.
I don't know if you use a seperate pair of cans for music but if you use these then they should sound pretty good, more so with that sub-$100 price tag, and especially so with an amp. An amp is a bit of overkill on these as with all easy-to-drive headphones, but hey, overkill is fun. Bear in mind that these are open-back headphones, so sound will leak both into and from your environment, as you might've experienced already, so an amp would help compensate.

All in all, no, you don't "NEED" an amp, but you'll most likely find them fun to use for music and advantageous for certain games, so go ahead and try them out, just do your research.






TL:DR; No but get them anyways kek

While the Xbox One controller is a great evolution to the 360 controller, the PS4 controller is a real revolution if you compare it with the DS3. It feels so great in your hand. The size is perfect and the buttons and the D-Pad are by far the best compared to any other controller. The new surface feels really good, especially with sweaty hands like mine. Even the triggers are now better than the ones on the Xbox One controller (despite the nice rumble feature).

There is only one thing where the Xbox One controller is still superior and that are those great new thumbsticks with the slip-proof rim. But guess what... you can replace the PS4 with those original X1 sticks pretty easily http://www.amazon.com/Original-XBOX-ONE-Controller-analogue-Thumbsticks/dp/B00IZSTNKW or even get some fancy 3rd party plastic or metal sticks in any color http://www.gadgettidings.com/product/custom-metal-dark-grey-thumbsticks-analogue-thumb-sticks-for-sony-dual-shock-4-ps4-controllers/ for a couple bucks to create the ultimate controller: DS4 with X1-sticks!

I have the PX51 which are pretty much the same as the PX4 just with a different transmitter. Excellent headset, but mine is also starting to show its age. I also have the XO Seven, which is a technically an Xbox One headset. But works great on PS4 plugged into the controller. XO Seven has a really good mic and great sound quality. I use that XO Seven when playing with friends and the PX51 for playing solo or watching movies. The XO Sevens are a little bit tight fitting though. I have always had good luck with the quality of Turtle Beach though. I tried the Astro A50 but did not like them as much as the PX51.

I have been eyeing the V-Moda BoomPro though. Thinking of pairing it with the Philips SHP9500. Non gaming headset. Comes out to about $107 from Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ENMK1DW/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2D6O8U4XOTC9L

https://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-BoomPro-Gaming-Headset-Headphone/dp/B00BJ17WKK/ref=pd_bxgy_23_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00BJ17WKK&pd_rd_r=XSPAP357EPA01E7FWX0F&pd_rd_w=rt6dX&pd_rd_wg=wdN6e&psc=1&refRID=XSPAP357EPA01E7FWX0F

There are absolutely some decent gaming headphones out there, but almost all of them sacrifice something in order to keep the price point at bay and to pay for the Dolby and DTS licenses. In my experience, you're almost always better off grabbing a pair of decent headphones and adding a mic to them.

My setup is a pair of Philips SHP9500S with the V-Moda BoomPro mic. Unfortunately, these amazing headphones were discontinued recently, but they were $50 cans that beat out many $200. These are open-back headphones though, which means that you will be able to hear some of your environment around you, but the benefit is that the way sound escapes creates a much wider sound where it sometimes sounds like things are happening across the room. Can be very beneficial for hearing precise movements.

If you live in a noisy environment, then maybe the Audio-Technica M40x are more up your alley. These are regarded as some of the best headphones ever made, used by professionals around the world, and what's even more nuts is that they can often be had for less than $100. Sometimes under $80 if you're willing to be patient.

Both of these headphones also have detachable cables so if they ever short out, all you have to do is change the wire and they're good to go. The BoomPro mic also plugs right into the jack at the bottom of the speaker, so the headphones basically turn into a gaming headset, just with none of the gimmicks and non-sense. Just good, balanced/neutral audio.

Just make sure that whatever you buy, whether gaming audio or actual headphones, you're not paying for fancy tech, licenses, and gimmicks that you may not even find to sound good.

Unlike the other PC gamers in this thread, I'd say that rig for a PS4 is a decent deal - if you do plan on replacing your PC with something a little more powerful, as you say in another thread.

Once you pick up the PS4, what you need first and foremost is a PS+ subscription, which I think is $50 a year. Multiplayer is more or less dependent upon it (except where noted, in certain games). With the service, you also get two free games every month. So far, they've all been smaller indie titles, though the PS3 is seeing some older AAA releases. You can still make a PSN id to buy games and suchlike off the PS store.

Next, you'd probably want a second controller, especially if you're into fighting games like Mortal Kombat or Injustice. Sportsfriends, one of the free PS+ games this month, is also local MP only, and I've really enjoyed it so far.

If your WiFi is not ideal, and you don't have a LAN connection direct to the PS4, you could look into one of these.

Finally, you could look into upgrading the hard drive. 500 GB doesn't last long, since the PS4 installs all games, even ones on discs, to the hard drive. With each title clocking in between 25 and 40 GB, not to mention the two free PS+ games every month, it's gonna run out fast.

Thankfully, it's really easy to replace, as detailed here. I've heard good things on /r/PS4 about a certain 2TB Samsung hard disk, but I cannot find it right now. Or you could go for an SSD, which is faster but more expensive.

That's about all I can think of at the moment. Now for the disclaimer:

If your primary motivation for the PS4 is Destiny, you might want to hold off. I'm enjoying the game, but I would not recommend it to anyone who hasn't already tried it and decided if it's the game for them. I played the open beta for between six and eight hours before deciding to buy it. If you can, play for at least an hour or two on a friend's system before taking the leap.

I know unsolicited advice is often unwelcome, so feel free to skip the following paragraph if you want to:

UNSOLICITED ADVICE FOLLOWS

You could upgrade your GPU and get a PS4 for cheaper than assembling a new rig from scratch. I'm pretty sure you could sell just the GPU for between eighty and a hundred bucks.

UNSOLICITED ADVICE ENDS

Cheers, and welcome to the PS family!

I personally don't think an SSD is worth the extra money. it will be faster in terms of load times, but the difference is not that noticeable.

if you want a 2TB HDD, this one (ST2000LM015) is great and recommended. If you want slightly better speed for a good price, get this SSHD (ST2000LX001).

and if you really want to save money, then this one (STDR2000100) is pretty common. more work involved though, because you have to crack open the case. there is guide in the sidebar. one benefit is you can re-use the case for your old ps4 hdd.

I referenced US amazon because i don't know canada stuff, but you can just look up the model numbers for each.

Download Transistor because it's the best thing in the world.

Also I recommend upgrading your HDD to a 1TB SSD hybrid. I just did it myself and the space alone is worth it as 500GB on a next gen console is gonna go pretty fast.

Just a thought to do before you get too much saved on your HDD and have to find a way to transfer it over to a new one.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B99JUBQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That's the one I bought and it's pretty awesome!

Good luck on your PS4 fun :)

I just bought the xbone thumb sticks and installed them on my DS4. This was the best decision ever! At first I was skeptical but all the people over at r/ps4mods highly recommended it! Just be sure to watch a few how to install videos and then you'll be golden. I bought these ...

They fit perfectly and if you have ever used a xbone controller you know they have wonderful grip. Good luck bud!

Most 120hz TV's are really 60hz displays with software that makes it look smoother. Many TV's come with a game mode that disables the software because it adds input lag. Also look out for input lag in TV's. Some brands tend to have a higher input lag but generally Sony, Samsung, LG, and Vizio are pretty good.

I'd definitely pick a 1080p display over a 720p one. Even though a few games like assassins creed unity output at 900p the ps4 will scale it up to 1080p and there is a very noticeable difference between 720p and 1080p.

If you have kids or need to be quiet at night pick up a pair of headphones. They can plug right into your controller and the games audio will go through them. If online will be your thing skip the headphones and pick up a headset. Sony's gold wireless headset is a pretty good one and should be on sale either right now or by Monday. No cooling fans will be necessary but make sure you have a spot set up that gives your ps4 enough room. If you're picking up a second controller consider picking up a charging station that plugs into an outlet. I have the nyko one and it has been great so far but I've also heard really good things about the power A one. If you're not getting a second controller don't worry about buying a dock. I don't own the PS camera or a sound bar/sorround sound system so I can't really help there.

Here's a few TV's that an input lag website recommends for gaming: http://www.displaylag.com/best-hdtvs-gaming-2014-introduction/

Power A charging dock: http://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Controller-Charging-Station-PlayStation-4/dp/B00ENFVJJO

Nyko charging dock: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FLLFJ68/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687582&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00ENFVJJO&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1077G5Z0Z1KEJTMSRK8D

Edit: Target has the gold wireless headset for $40. The deal is for in store only.

Any 2.5" (laptop-sized) hard drive that is 9.5mm in height or smaller should work. I recommend the 2.5" Seagate FireCuda (which comes in 2TB size), since it will give your PS4 a minor speed boost in addition to a storage increase. The FireCuda is a "hybrid drive", which means it contains a combination of both a standard HDD and a small SSD. In simple terms a hybrid drive automatically loads frequently accessed files onto the SSD to improve speed. A hybrid drive would still be slower than a SSD only hard drive, but would be much more reasonably priced. I recommend googling "hybrid hard drive" if your interested in getting a better understanding of what it is.

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Firecuda-2-5-Inch-Internal-ST1000LX015/dp/B01M1NHCZT/

Also keep in mind that the upcoming 4.5 update is going to allow external HDD to be used as storage for your system. That would be another possibility in the near future to increase your storage, but since the update is currently in beta I would recommend waiting for the official release before making any purchases.

The process to replace the hard drive in a PS4 is very simple. I recommend following a detailed guide on youtube if you are in need of step-by-step instructions.

EDIT: Here's a link to an overview of the benefits and limitations of using a FireCuda with a PS4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hftHjOvcUtc

you'll want a second controller with a stand-alone charger like this: http://amzn.com/B00ENFVJJO. battery life is super short on PS4 controller and this will help him play if he forgets to charge one controller.

second: you'll want to replace the stock headset with something affordable like this: http://amzn.com/B006PP3ZK6 headset that comes with ps4 is not good. not good at all.

third: give him subscription to PS+. it is a similar service to xbox subscription. it will allow him to play online.


sounds like your kid likes sports games. Playstation has the single best baseball game ever made called "MLB the show" keep an eye out for it. it is very very good game. even many non-sports game players play it.

Hmm. I may have tried something similar last week actually. (Without success. My goal was to actually attempt to use my MacBook Pro and DAC to patch in copyright free music and my mic into a ps4 twitch stream).
Can you outline what you're thinking so I can get a better picture? Is your DAC also a headphone amp/have a headphone out?

Is it: PS4 optical out->Computer (optical)->USB DAC out -> headphones?

One idea that comes to mind is to take a regular 3.5 patch cord and use the ps4 controller headphone jack as a line out to your computer, if the optical idea doesn't work. (Though at this point I have to wonder whether using the Bluetooth audio and whatever quality compromises result may or may not negate the purpose of the DAC :). )

I actually found the output from the controller to be pretty darn good considering.

Or you could try using something like this to connect both your headphones and mic to the DS4 controller (your mileage may vary)

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-MUYHSMFF-Headset-Splitter-Adapter/dp/B004SP0WAQ


Personally I think it's worth it to look out for a good used home theater receiver as the good ones can take a surround sound signal and output it through the headphone jack in a very nice 5.1 simulated way. I found a NAD home theater receiver on craigslist for $50 a while ago.

The DS4 is super comfortable and surprisingly light weight. The analogs feel great and soft, and their movement is very fluent. Triggers feel smooth and stick out more than the DS3 (which felt sunk'ed in), not to mention they have quick respond, because of their shape. Other than that, I advice that you get soft rubber tops for your Analogs, since a lot of people are complaining that they wear off (even tho I have not had the problem, I still bought some just for the long run - here's what I bought, which I HIIIIIIIIIGHLY RECOMMEND http://www.amazon.com/Grip-iT-Analog-Stick-Covers-PlayStation-4/dp/B003NSLGW2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394725317&sr=8-1&keywords=Grip-iT).

Congrats and happy gaming!

4tb is probably way too much but 2tb can easily handle 30+ games

If anyone is looking to upgrade, I'd recommend the best value for money upgrade which is Seagate's FireCuda 2TB SSHD that was released just a few months ago. Not only you get a huge storage boost, you also get better loading times. I swear my Witcher 3 loads now take 20-30 seconds less

UK link I got it for £99, it is now being sold for £120 the price fluctuates according to orders I think

US link cheaper than in the UK

Similar situation here. My tips:

• Use - as you use it, you'll get better. Crappy answer, but the most realistic one.
  
• Sensitivity Settings - Figure out what you are trying to do. If you have to lower the settings, go for it. If you need to increase it to give you that feeling of mouse/keyboard - then do it. Eventually you'll hone in on what you need your settings to be dependent on the game. Shooters sometimes have a separate down-the-sights sensitivity that can help for headshots.
  
• Controller config - There are usually 4-5 different types of config in the game's settings. For COD BLOPS3, as an example, I found the setting with jump on the L1 trigger, and melee on Circle - since I found I want to aim while jumping, and rarely melee.
  
• Comfort - They sell silicone controller shells, and many (including me) use thumbstick covers or addons (I use these, and love them.) Find what makes you the most comfortable physically (and mentally.)
  
• Aim - You can't move as much on console. Especially in shooters you should have your sights aimed where you mostly need them. In an FPS, run with the reticule around chest/head level, so when you turn a corner, you can start shooting without trying to aim first.
  
• Sounds - many/most pc gamers are used to gaming with a headset on, for FPS especially, hearing footsteps is a huge gamechanger advantage. Get Sony Golds, or Astro A40s if you have a little more money (OR a VSS optical-to-digital box + your favorite seinheiser cans if you have the desire), and go to town.

Firstly, Welcome to the PlayStation community!
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Let me answer Your questions.

1. You should buy a bigger HDD, because most of the new games are over 40GB, the bigger HDD You get, the longer it lasts.
   
   

• Also, consider buying a hybrid drive (like this one) it isn't that pricey, but they are faster than normal 7200rpm HDDs.
  
• SSDs are better in speed, that's true, but the 1-2TB versions are very pricey at the moment.
  
• Get a Seagate Expansion STBX2000401 - 2TB HDD if You want to save some money.
  
  
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2. You can find HDD speed comparisons here and here.
   
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3. You can make backups of Your save-games to a USB drive read more about this here.
   
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4. Sadly, I don't know anything about the Voucher code.
   
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   I hope that I've answered Your questions.
   
   If You have any more question, feel free to contact me.
   
   Have a nice day!

Glad that the update is coming tomorrow. Still no folders option, but looking forward to these features:


Suspend/Resume:
>Info: Supported by nearly all of your PS4 games, you can jump in and out of your games with just the press of the PS button. Quickly switch from Rest Mode to powered-up so you can pick up where you left off.

 
Back-up and restore HDD to USB
>Info: Back-up and restore your hard disc drive data associated with users on your PS4, including settings, saved data, screenshots and video clips as well as games, patches and download data, to and from an external USB drive.

Good that I waited with updating my HDD, with our slow network connection it would have taken ages to re-download all my games.
 
For those upgrading their PS4: (NOT up-to-date with the new backup feature)

• A guide by IGN + Which HDD to buy
  
• PS4 upgrade- Beginning-to-end-guide with an external HDD - created by /u/mbrellisford
  
• PS4 System software download page
   
  
  Edit: I will upgrade my PS4 with the Seagate Backup Plus Slim 2TB tomorrow. I could do a how-to guide if there is interest in it.
  Edit2: A how-to guide is in the making and should be published on 27 March.

Can't answer your question about Diablo as I have not played it.

Most games are downloadable, but I loved Second Son and First Light. SS lacks replay value, but I enjoyed playing it through twice, once good and once evil. First Light is short, but has massive replay value and the battle arenas are serious fun.

You aren't going to find a better headset in the price range than the PS Gold Wireless. I have one and it's better than a $200 pair of Tritons I owned on PS3.

http://www.amazon.com/Gold-Wireless-Stereo-Headset-playstation-4/dp/B00HVBPRUO/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1410134577&sr=1-1&keywords=gold+wireless+stereo+headset

EDIT: added link

1)not difficult at all
2) http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-Portable-External-STDR2000100/dp/B00FRHTSK4/ref=cm_cd_ql_qh_dp_t
best drive for the PS4 right now in terms of largest amount of memory.
3) after the install of the ps4 firmware, you have about 1768 GB'S left. usually a game is anywhere from 20-50 GB's so you're looking at being able to hold 50+ FULL games. (just an estimate). Indie games however are much smaller so you can also throw in a lot more of those while not worrying about space.
4)No. Sony encourages you to upgrade your Hard drive if your heart desires. It does not cancel your warranty.
5)If you have PS plus you can transfer all your saved game data to the cloud, otherwise you can save all your saved data to a usb external hard drive and then transfer it back once you have your new hard drive in.

im going to buy the 2 TB hard drive i just linked you to. It's price is great and im looking forward to putting my ps4 hard drive into my ps3 so i can finally download some more free ps plus games.

I hope this helps anyone that was having the same issue. I am also using a wired headset that is connected to my ps4 controller. I am sure there is another way to do this but I didn't feel like buying a wireless headset. I found the answer shortly after posting this. I was just messing around with my microphone settings and it started to work. Now I am able to mute my ps4 party chat and speak to my stream audience without bothering my friends on the chat. Not sure how to post pictures of this but I'll describe it as best as I can. Also I am using Windows 10 so I am not sure if this will work with other OS.
I went to the sound recording settings and made the streaming mic I use the default communication device. While making the headset microphone(ps4) a default device. On the remote play app I have the microphone icon active so when I speak my friends on the ps4 can hear me. I use a dongle that allows me to mute myself on the ps4. It is the AdjustR that can be purchased online. It is sold at Gamestop and Amazon.
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/adjustR-Mic-Mute-control-playstation-4/dp/B0185CVTDG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520974486&sr=8-1&keywords=adjustR
You might be able to find it at your local gamestop but it seems to be sold out online: https://www.gamestop.com/ps4/accessories/adjustr/124762

here is a video of what I did: https://youtu.be/lUtTR9oGEqg

My reply is certainly going to reak of "sony apologist/asshole". That is not my intention.

Your biggest problem with the DS4 is the battery life, and even though you play it 3 hours a day (based on your post) you can't be bothered to do something extremely easy to fix it? Charging the controller is easy to do man, just plug the thing in...how hard is that? It takes you less time to plug the controller in than it does for the PS4 to turn on!

In all seriousness I do agree with you on finding plugging things into the stupid cables every single time you touch them to be annoying. You know those memes about "I plugged in the usb cable...and it was facing the right way on the first try....winning!" That is a real thing. But why? Back in the day the only device commonly found in the house that was used every day that had a rechargeable battery was our home phone. These always had a desktop cradle charger. Can you imagine a cordless phone where you had to charge it by plugging it with a cord all the time? And let's not forget how shitty those nicad batteries were...I kid you not, there are people who made their fortune on selling those stupid things in a retail store, having to be replaced every 6 weeks, people buying the wrong ones, or heaven forbid if you had the audacity to not follow the impossible charge/discharge practices they recommended.

Thankfully, battery technology really improved, but unfortunately the GOOD thing about that era (the cradle charger) went the way of the dinosaur and for some reason (profit) companies stopped including them.

The cradle charger suddenly became a "premium" ie: overpriced accessory. I remember the last cellphone I purchased that came with a cradle charger. This was over 10 years ago, in the era before phones even had color screens.

What I'm trying to say here is a cradle charger is the way to go, and there are multiple options for PS4. Here are just a few:

This is the one I personally have. It works great! I have 3 controllers, and it comes with 2 of the little attachments that go on the controller to charge it. Nyko sent me another 2 for free when I asked them.

http://www.amazon.com/Nyko-Charge-Base-PlayStation-4/dp/B00FLLFJ68/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1422371016&sr=8-2&keywords=ps4+charger

This is another very popular one, it is very commonly recommended on reddit. It doesn't require any adapters to be connected to the DS4 since it uses the extension port to charge.

http://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Controller-Charging-Station-PlayStation-4/dp/B00ENFVJJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422371016&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4+charger&pebp=1422371073104&peasin=B00ENFVJJO

There are other options, but most of the other options work by the charger physically plugging in to the micro-usb port on the top of the controller and hanging from it, which seems problematic to me. The 1990's style cradle is where it's at! The Nyko one is the closest thing to that style. And no, the little adapters that let it dock do NOT interfere with the operation at all, it's very small and you don't even know it is connected. Because everyone asks this (completely unnecessarily, as every lithium ion based charger behaves this way) yes, it will automatically stop charging the controller when the battery is fully charged.

There's even another style that connects directly to the PS4, if you are wanting to keep the controllers near the PS4 itself. Although personally, I think it makes much more sense for the controllers to be stored where they are used...ya know, on the couch. But I literally have not touched my PS4 since I purchased it, since I am (obviously) one of those people who only buy digital games, because damn, why should I have to swap a disc just because I want to play a different game?

http://www.amazon.com/Nyko-Modular-Charge-Station-White-PlayStation/dp/B00MUTASR4/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1422371016&sr=8-13&keywords=ps4+charger

Why did I post all of this, especially with the assholery beginning? Because so many people just love to complain about every little thing they don't like, when there are a multitude of products available to make all their woes go away. Even if the DS4 had 24 hours of battery life, if they wanted to not buy a charger for it, they'd still be messing with that stupid USB charging cord eventually...which is a crime against humanity.

Spent $20, and you can be a smug asshole who is much happier in life, thanks to having one less usb cord to have to plug in.

(PS: If your phone supports wireless charging, buy a few of those chargers for your cellphone...and if it doesn't, make sure your next cellphone does!) The only time I plug my phone into ANYTHING is when I flash a new rom to it. Charging is as simple as setting it down on the charger, it synchronizes data (such as music/pictures) over wifi, and earphones are bluetooth. They call it a wireless phone...right?

Modern consumer electronics used without wires...will make you a happier person. Your thinning hair will grow back, your penis will become longer, your belly fat will get smaller, you will get a promotion at work without even asking for it, your children will do their chores without complaining, your mortgage company will approve your refinance, and you will get the bonus onion ring every time you purchase french fries.
Comcast will still give you shitty service...but hey, this new way of life can't work miracles or anything.

No third party controllers, but you could try getting either new thumbsticks (Xbox One thumbsticks fit perfectly), or you could get a thumbstick cover.

Ive used GelTabz before and liked them. They add a good amount of gel thickness that should make clicking the joystick more pleasant.

Grip-It thumbstick covers are also considered very good.

Upgrading the Hard Drive really isn't that difficult.
All you need to do is buy the drive you want and make sure it is 9.5mm x 2.5inch (I recently got this - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00I8O6OQ4/ref), next you'll want to make sure that any saves you have are backed up either on the cloud storage or an external drive. To save time later I would advise downloading the most up-to-date version of the PS4 OS from Sony's website (From here you'll want the "Fresh Install option - https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/system-updates/ps4/), follow the instructions and save this to a USB with at least 1Gb of space.

(Note that you will need a small crosshead screwdriver for this)

Once you've got the drive all you need to do is slide the shiny part of the console away from the power indicator and you'll hear it unlock. From here you should notice a small screw that has the well known PS buttons on it, simply unscrew that and pull the drive out in its holder. You'll notice that there are 4 more screws holding the drive to the caddy, simply unscrew these and the drive will come out.

Now all you need to do is remove the packaging from your new drive, screw it into place on the caddy, re-insert the caddy and screw it into place with the "Sony Screw", reconnect the power/TV/Controller/USB, boot up the PS4 into Safe Mode (Hold power for ~7secs) and choose option 7. From here the drive will update from your USB and after that it'll be good for use, all you need to do is reinstall all those lovely games.


Hope this helps and if you have any problems just shoot me a message :)

NAT stuff is going to be done on your router. You'll want to navigate to your router settings in a browser (typically at 192.168.1.1) and find the option that says "Port Forwarding" or something to that nature.

Once you're there, select your PS4's IP address (you may have to figure this one out if you didn't already label it in your router, but you can find it in Settings > Network > View Connection Status on your PS4) and forward the following ports for both UDP and TCP:

• 80
  
• 443
  
• 1935
  
• 3478
  
• 3479
  
• 3480
  
  Here is a site that can probably walk you through the procedure for your specific router.
  
  Edit: Also remember that NAT Type 2 is what you're looking for, not Type 1. Type 2 means that you've got everything configured correctly and your router is doing what it's supposed to, which is what you want.
  
  Edit 2: You could also look into powerline adaptors, which allow you to use the electrical wiring in your home to carry ethernet signals, allowing you to have a wired connection that is typically much more reliable than wireless but less reliable than straight ethernet. This solution is dependent upon how your house is wired though, so if your house is pretty old or the wiring job is pretty shoddy, then you might want to just look into getting a better wireless access point if it comes to needing a hardware upgrade. Alternatively, wiring a house with ethernet isn't the hardest procedure in the world, but I'm not sure if you're prepared or able to do that.

Exactly this. I've been conflicted for a while, like OP, but realized that while XBONE exclusives are okay now, PS4 is about to blow them out of the water with their future lineup. I'm also much more invested in platinum trophies than 1,000 Achievement Points (stupid, I know). My XBONE is literally collecting dust at the moment because I'm much more of a PS guy, no matter how much I try other things.

OP, you can also easily order XBONE Thumbsticks from this Amazon seller and use this video to replace the PS4 thumbsticks for the best of both worlds. I did this after losing the rubber on my original sticks and am really happy with the results.

Don't. Get this instead: http://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Controller-Charging-Station-PlayStation-4/dp/B00ENFVJJO

I have this, and as I and all the other positive reviewers can attest to; it's great. Looks good, performs well, super affordable, and is the best rated.

If you're looking for a good and cheap wireless headset, go with the Playstation Gold Wireless Headset (which is black unlike the name suggests). It lasts a while on a charge, the sound is fantastic as well as the mic built in, and super comfortable. It's about the best $60 headset you could possibly find. As for speakers, always go Logitech if you're sitting at a desk.

The other link just shows how to replace the hard drive, a good resource, but to answer your original question:

Internally, the PS4 only has room for a 2.5" 9.5mm tall drive. The maximum capacity hard drive you can get that will fit is 2TB. The Segate 2TB is pretty much the only reccomended hard drive, because it's the only 9.5mm 2TB drive at a good price.

However, if you're going for biggest PS4 hard drive, you can buy something like the Nyko Data Bank which lets you install a full-size, chaper desktop hard drive (up to 8TB^1). The downside is, while it matches the PS4 design aesthetic, it does add bulk to your PS4.

 

^1 From the Nyko website: With the 3.50 firmware update for PS4 we recommend up to 4TB for models below CUH-1200 and for models above CUH-1200, we recommend up to 8TB.

If you don't mind a $280 price tag SteelSeries H are incredible. They are very comfortable even after hours of use. The battery life is about 20 hours and you get 2. You can keep one inside the wireless transmitter and when the battery in the headset gets low you just swap them. It has a retractable mic and very easy to use controls.

I used to have the PS golds they are the best headset for under $100, I would definitely recommend these. They are comfortable and sound great, that being said one of the hinges on mine broke after about a year.

PowerA Charging Station - 2 controllers, not little kid friendly, as it has a spring to load/unload the controller and kids will just pull it off. If the spring is in the incorrect position, it can be difficult to put the controller on charge.

Collective Minds PSVR Stand and Charging Station - 2 controllers, 2 move controllers, and 1 USB slot for headset or PSVR AIM controller.

PlayStation Platinum Headset - Went through 2 PS Gold headsets due to weak plastic frame. Platinums feel more sturdy. Haven't used too much to test durability. Great sound, but I am not an audiophobe.

PSVR AIM Controller - Got it bundled with Firewatch. Read that it felt good in hands. I thought it felt a little awkward, but definitely easy enough to use. Just have to get used to the button layout.

AC Infinity Fans - These are 80mm fans. It comes with 2 fans in parallel that are powered over USB. I don't use my PS4's USBs, because those are taken up with other accessories, so I have it attached to my surround sound receiver. One fan pulling air from the back of the Pro, and the other directing the fan out of the shelf area. I recommend these, as I've noticed the spin up on my Pro has significantly went down.

honestly, I recommend these

you get 4 in a pack (so enough for 2 controllers or just for yours and you have a spare set)

it took a while to get on right, basically they have to be perfect or they rub the sides while using the sticks and you get resistance but now that I got them on right it's very nice, and seems to be protecting the thumb sticks.

best part is the price, after shipping mine were $9, keeping in mind it comes with a spare set of covers.

I know this isn't exactly what you want, but IMO it's worth getting them even if the controllers seem to be fixed.

I know it doesn't fix your problem but I picked up this dock and I love it

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ENFVJJO/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?pc_redir=T1

It just plugs into any wall outlet. Plus it looks nice enough that I can leave it on the entertainment center and not worry about hiding the controllers. You can even "rest" the controllers on top without clicking them in to charge.

Are you looking for speed, or size? I personally recommend the Seagate 1TB SSHD for speed/size for value, as you get twice the standard drive size, and a big increase in speed. It automatically caches the most used files on the SSD portion of the drive, so that game files or OS files that are accessed frequently can be loaded the fastest. It increased boot speed and game load times on games you play frequently. Say you play a LOT of Destiny, it's going to become quite fast loading the assets you use a lot, like the Tower, in game worlds, things like that.
Amazon link

On the other end of the spectrum, you can go for sheer size, and maintain the same speeds you have now, and just never worry about filling up the drive until 5 years down the road. The similarly priced 2TB Spinpoint -
Amazon link

The Sony Gold Wireless Headset. It's amazing. One of the best headsets out there for the PS4. Make sure to download the companion app from the PSN Store. I believe the black set is $80. The white set still sells for $100. But watch for this item to appear on Amazon's Warehouse page. I got the whites refurbished for $85. They match my white PS4 nicely.

I use this controller charger. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ENFVJJO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Works really well. Both of my controllers are always ready for me.

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Now for my opinion, if your new and have a very limited understanding of how to do the swap do the good or better, those packages give you everything you need for the swap and have excellent customer service/technical help hotline. IF you can figure out how to do it and your have a spare usb laying around, and don't need to re-purpose your stock ps4 hard drive go with the best! Highly recommend the SSHD.

It's currently not in stock on Amazon, but this drive is pretty awesome for the PS4.

I use the 1TB version and I get pretty close to SSD timings, at 25% of a cost.