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The Case for Christ (the [book][1], although the [film][2] adaptation wasn't horrible) and Cold Case Christianity would probably be good reads for you.
Case for Christ was written by an investigative journalist and legal editor for the Chicago Tribune. It details his transition from Atheism to Christianity, and how his attempt to debunk Christianity lead to him coming to Christ.
Cold Case Christianity was written by a detective who solved a number of high-profile cold cases. He has a similar story, as his book details his conversion from Atheism to Christianity through the use of cold-case investigation techniques.
[1]: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310345863/
[2]: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6113488/
New Evidence that Demands a Verdict
More Than a Carpenter
Cold Case Christianity: A Homicide Detective Investigates the Claims of the Gospels On my to read list.
Faith on Trial: An Attorney Analyzes the Evidence for the Death and Resurrection of Jesus
The Case for Christ
The Case for Faith
The Case for a Creator
The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus On my to read list.
The Historical Jesus: Ancient Evidence for the Life of Christ On my to read list.
Besides the apologetics books, you can watch John Lennox on YouTube. He is a very well-spoken and kind (doesn't attack the other debater) debater. Very well thought out responses. The Dawkins vs Lennox debate was awesome! Ditto Gary Habermas as well.
Hello,
This book is a robust examination of the Christian faith, looking not only at doctrine but the evidence for the truth claims of scripture.
https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Case-Christianity-Homicide-Detective-Investigates/dp/1434704696
I greatly respect your attitude towards your husbands faith. The fact that you're here asking this speaks volumes.
edit: bonus recommdations
https://www.amazon.com/More-Than-Carpenter-Josh-McDowell/dp/1414326270/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
https://www.amazon.com/New-Evidence-That-Demands-Verdict/dp/0785242198/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
You are so smart to do so my friend! You're probably a philosopher at heart, too inquisitive to "just believe." That's great, I wish more Christians were like that.
The fact is there's plenty plenty of evidence for the truth (both historical and philosophical) of Christianity though it just takes time to read through it all. It's something you kind of have to get a bug up your butt about, or in my case you get strong-armed into it mentally, in which case you become obsessed with it which is what happened to me.
For some lay-level reading I'd check out (in no particular order)
Cold Case Christianity
Reasonable Faith or really anything by William Lane Craig
Evidence for Christianity
There are a TON more...
Also, read the old Church fathers, really fun stuff.
Please feel free to PM me anytime, I will gladly talk to you about whatever you want.
Thank you for the indepth reply.
God has revealed Himself through creation:
>For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. (Rom 1:20)
I won't discuss a generic creator or pantheon because those are not my beliefs. Just the Christian God to which denomination doesn't matter provided the person accepts that they are a sinner and that they may receive the gift of freedom from sin and it's consequences through Christ alone.
Do you ever feel out of place? Or like things are wrong? Christians agree! We believe that because of sin, creation is corrupt bringing about all kinds of pain and frustration. This is another way that God reveals Himself to some people.
But really, existence is a pretty good argument for God. We exist in the "Goldilocks zone" that is one of very few places in the known universe that can support life. Not only that, but life actually appeared here. Just having the ability to support life doesn't automatically make it happen. In addition, we have intelligent, self-aware life. The math for this to occur is impossible. it can't happen. And yet we're here.
The debates are only necessary because God loves you and called His people to love you as well. There wouldn't be a debate if nobody cared.
God isn't a trickster nor an angry child not careless. His perspective as Creator and master of creation is wildly different from ours but always perfect. That includes a perfect love and a perfect sense of Justice.
If you want to know more about the reliability of eye witness accounts of Christ, I'd recommend Cold Case Christianity where an evidence-based approach is used on the gospels and supporting data. Man, Myth, Messiah also touches on this (and if only $1.99 on Kindle right now). And I understand that The Case for Christ written by an investigative reporter also looks into this but I haven't read that book myself yet.
Religious people don't have that much power. People who claim to be religious might. While 70% of Americans claim a "Christian heritage" only 40% of those people attend church. And only 45% of church attenders read the Bible away from church. Believe me, if more people who claimed to be Christian, actually knew the tenants of the faith you wouldn't have any problem with them being in power. The basics for Christianity start with: love God, love your neighbor, and love your enemy. Christians aren't called to hate gays, but to love them just like everyone else.
The instances of Christians being anti-science is mostly media hype. The scientific process began in the church as a method to explore and understand God's miraculous creation. The Bible isn't a science textbook, it's a collection of books and letters that form a singular narrative. It needs to be read and interpreted from that context.
And science has a lot of holes to be filled, including internal contradictions: quantum mechanics says the Big Bang is bunk, for example. Scientists and philosophers have been working for decades on a way to unify those pursuits called "the theory of everything". Science has faith that will happen. Some of what's called "science" really isn't. For science to be accurate it needs to be observable and repeatable. Here again, the Big Bang fails the test. I'm not anti science, and I suspect the Big Bang is valid, but I see it in Genesis:
> In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. [...] And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
Maybe that describes Big Bang? Maybe not.
As to how well I know Christ the answer is, "not well enough." Christ followers start by accepting Christ as our Lord and savior for the forgiveness of our sins. Then we change. That change is called sanctification and it happens by getting in relationship and learning from Christ. I mean this literally through prayer and by studying the Bible. God wants to be in relationship with us. The change is to make us more Christ-like. You assume Christ is unaccessible which isn't true. He's alive right now, today. And I am constantly surprised by him and his compassion and sacrifice.
There's a lot of misconceptions about the faith. I'm considering a project to combat that both in popular culture and within the church. That's why I started this thread.
Nein das habe ich nicht geschrieben. Mir gefällt die Idee aber gut und ich kann nur jedem empfehlen dem historischen Gehalt der entsprechenden Quellen mal gründlich auf den Zahn zu fühlen und sich nicht allein von populären, auf den ersten Blick überzeugenden Meinungen leiten zu lassen (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10).
I think /u/betweentwosuns comment is good and an excellent place to start. Once one gets past the fact that Christ was a real historical figure that actually existed, and that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are reliable testimonies of what He said and did, then one comes to a crossroads. He must either reject His claims, either by simply ignoring them or outright disagreeing with them, or accept His claims by faith. One of the books that is often recommend for studying these things is Strobel's The Case for Christ and there is also a newer book out called Cold Case Christianity which is also good.
I feel like we need to address this by the actual facts and details of the resurrection accounts and their corroborating historical texts, as it’s easy to lose the actual magnitude of any given piece of evidence when we analogize. For instance one of the corroborating texts mentions the darkening of the sky the gospels claimed occurred during the crucifixion and explains it as an eclipse. Not exactly equivalent to a neighbor witnessing the reactions of potential witnesses.
On that note I’d like to refer you to Cold Case Christianity by J. Warner Wallace(as its been a while since I’ve gone over it all) where he goes over things like the reliability of the gospels as a reference, the corroborating texts, and the various explanations for the lack of a body, all bearing in mind the standards we hold for investigating crimes from decades ago.
https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Case-Christianity-Homicide-Detective-Investigates/dp/1434704696/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539290737&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=Cold+case+christianity&dpPl=1&dpID=513jwtjLlNL&ref=plSrch
Shadow banned? It's still there for me. Copy/pasting below:
>How do you know, that the directly received knowledge is reliably true?
I examine the evidence available to me, and it matches up.
>Is it possible that the authors of the New Testament read the Old Testament and deliberately wrote the narrative in a way to make it fit with the prophecies?
No, for numerous reasons. First, that would represent a deliberate conspiracy to deceive people by creating a hoax. Men do not die for what they know to be a hoax. They had nothing to gain and everything to lose by creating a hoax surrounding Jesus, and they proclaimed this Jesus starting in Jerusalem--the city wherein it would be the easiest for people to falsify their claims. Nearly all of the apostles went to their deaths at the hands of the Romans, via torture, without ever admitting to a hoax, and no one was able to come forth with any 'smoking gun' evidence of a hoax that would have nipped this new movement in the bud by showing it to be a hoax (like say, the body of Jesus Christ for example). They would have had no motive for remaining faithful unto death, if they knew it was all a lie. All they had to do was say 'Caesar is Lord' and they could have gone free.
Second: many of the facts that surround Jesus are independently testified from hostile sources that did not accept Jesus as Messiah. See: coldcasechristianity.com and specifically:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1434704696/
A balanced view only can be developed by hearing both sides.
Timothy Keller - The Reason for God - Believing in an Age of Skepticism (chapter summaries)
C.S. Lewis - Mere Christianity
J. Warner Wallace - Cold-Case Christianity: A Homicide Detective Investigates the Claims of the Gospels
Alvin Plantinga - Where the Conflict Really Lies: Science, Religion, and Naturalism
Francis S. Collins - The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief
Craig A. Evans - Fabricating Jesus: How Modern Scholars Distort the Gospels
You can find longer list over at christianapologetics or at Kindle Deals in Christianity, Christian Worldview, and Apologetics
bethinking.org exists to help you make sense of the big questions about life.
The Biologos Foundation Ressource Finder
The Veritas Forum Talks
> No, they don't.
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> https://www.amazon.com/Misquoting-Jesus-Story-Behind-Changed/dp/0060859512
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> But we might just have to agree to disagree about that. In any case...
No, the only thing I'll agree to is that both you and Ehrman are totally wrong.
https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Case-Christianity-Homicide-Detective-Investigates/dp/1434704696/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Cold+case+christianity&qid=1554338796&s=books&sr=1-1
>Either way, let me just ask you: does faith in the God of the Bible produce any measurable (by a non-believer) effect that faith in some other god does not? If so, what is it? If not, then in what sense can such a god be said to exist?
You're asking the wrong question. The only effect my faith in God produces is my personal salvation, which is not testable. But is there good evidence that the God of the Bible is the one true God? Yes, there is very good evidence of that. One of the most powerful of these is fulfilled prophecy.
See:
https://www.amazon.com/Messianic-Hope-Hebrew-Studies-Theology-ebook/dp/B004OR18CY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=181JAOD14V0WZ&keywords=is+the+hebrew+bible+messianic&qid=1554338880&s=gateway&sprefix=is+the+hebrew+bible%2Cstripbooks%2C274&sr=8-1
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> No, they don't.
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> https://www.amazon.com/Misquoting-Jesus-Story-Behind-Changed/dp/0060859512
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> But we might just have to agree to disagree about that. In any case...
No, the only thing I'll agree to is that both you and Ehrman are totally wrong.
https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Case-Christianity-Homicide-Detective-Investigates/dp/1434704696/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Cold+case+christianity&qid=1554338796&s=books&sr=1-1
>Either way, let me just ask you: does faith in the God of the Bible produce any measurable (by a non-believer) effect that faith in some other god does not? If so, what is it? If not, then in what sense can such a god be said to exist?
You're asking the wrong question. The main effect my faith in God produces is my personal salvation, which is not testable. But is there good evidence that the God of the Bible is the one true God? Yes, there is very good evidence of that. One of the most powerful of these is fulfilled prophecy.
See:
https://www.amazon.com/Messianic-Hope-Hebrew-Studies-Theology-ebook/dp/B004OR18CY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=181JAOD14V0WZ&keywords=is+the+hebrew+bible+messianic&qid=1554338880&s=gateway&sprefix=is+the+hebrew+bible%2Cstripbooks%2C274&sr=8-1
Tacitus' words on the crucifixion of Christ are widely considered accurate. Josephus and Mara bar Serapion also record events surrounding Christ and the crucifixion. As a result of these and other evidences historical scholars (regardless of personal theistic position) agree that the person referenced as Jesus C hrist by us moderns did in fact exist.
There is ... vigorous argument around the veracity of the core of the four gospels. I found Cold-Case Christianity: A Homicide Detective Investigates the Claims of the Gospels very interesting because an atheist cold-case forensic analyst set out to prove the Gospels were false. Instead he became convinced they are factual eyewitness accounts.
''Ya, its definitely the easiest to do nofap when you are busy and have other things to do that are meaningful that can distract you. What sorts of things are you doing now to fill your time to help w the nofap?''
Nothing much and here is the problem. I am going to do a trade thing pretty soon but currently I am essentially a NEET.
''Yeah, it is puzzling that the disciples chose to give their lives for Jesus after they had all fallen away. However it's definitely a leap to say that proves that Christianity is true though, as I'm sure you've heard''
Its not like suddenly hundreds of people suddenly claims that they saw the risen Christ. Unless something happened to cause them to believe that it happened.
I understand individuals being delusional but not all at the same time, mass hallucinations simply does not happen.
Its not like a resurrection story is believable even in the ancient world unless you actually see the person. But until then until a better explanation is put out I will remain a Christian.
''People do a lot of things that we don't understand, and it can be hard to ask one to accept that miraculous events explain these events since most often normal events can eventually be found to explain such circumstances. Now since we are dealing with something 2000 years ago, it's not like we can investigate the issue.''
For more information I recommend you check out this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Case-Christianity-Homicide-Detective-Investigates/dp/1434704696
> On closer examination, Horus isn’t much like Jesus after all. It’s not unusual for the characteristics of ancient pre-Christian deities to be exaggerated in an effort to make them sound like Jesus. The first step in refuting such claims is to simply investigate the attributes carefully.
This is from the article you linked. Also,
> In the end, similarities between Jesus and mythological precursors fail to invalidate the historicity of Jesus. The historical veracity of Jesus is determined from the evidence supporting the reliability of the eyewitness accounts. Jesus is not simply a retelling of the Horus myth. While Horus worship is now a dead religion, Christianity continues to thrive. Why? Because the Christian records are reliable (for more on this, please refer to Cold-Case Christianity). Skeptics sometimes portray Horus as something he isn’t in order to keep us from believing in Jesus as something He is. But the reliable Biblical record establishes the Deity of Jesus in a way no other ancient mythological text could ever hope to achieve
Granted, this is a Christian website, but you're the one who linked it, so fair game.
Jesus is Lord my friend.
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The existence of God doesn't have immediate evidence like a cancer diagnosis, but that doesn't mean there isn't any evidence for God. Christianity is not a blind faith.
https://www.amazon.com/Evidence-That-Demands-Verdict-Life-Changing/dp/1401676707/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1543478665&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=evidence+that+demands+a+verdict&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Case-Christianity-Homicide-Detective-Investigates/dp/1434704696/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543478756&sr=8-1&keywords=cold+case+christianity+by+j.+warner+wallace
Both of those authors were atheists or agnostics until they took the time to examine the evidence for the claims of Christianity. People like that don't completely change their life just because someone told them 'Yes, there is a God.' Wallace was a cold-case homicide detective and mocked Christians he knew.
>When I finally examined the evidence fairly using the tools I learned as a detective, I found it difficult to deny, especially if I hoped to retain my respect for the way evidence is utilized to determine truth. I found the evidence for Christianity as convincing as any cold-case I’d ever investigated. . . . I’m not a Christian because it “works” for me. I had a life prior to Christianity that seemed to be working just fine, and my life as a Christian hasn’t always been easy. I’m a Christian because it is true. I’m a Christian because I want to live in a way that reflects the truth. I’m a Christian because my high regard for the truth leaves me no alternative.
I'm not saying you should believe just because I say so or because a few authors write a few books about it. But doesn't it seem like there's enough evidence that you should take a seriously? If you're right about this, then you can move on with your life like nothing happened, and you would have more ammo if any other annoying Christians tried to convert you. But if you're wrong, then your eternal destiny hangs in the balance.
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Look at what's available to you. Read some things. Attend churches that focus less on it being a religion and more so it being a relationship with God. Talk to the pastors there about your issues with Christianity. Make it a priority in your life to find truth. Go where the evidence takes you. No matter where it does, you're going to have to take a leap of faith since no side can be proven totally 100% true.
I recommend Lee Strobel's Case for a Creator, and Norman L. Geisler and Frank Turek's I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist, The Apologetic's Study Bible, The Complete C. S. Lewis Signature Classics, Cold-Case Christianity: A Homicide Detective Investigates the Claims of the Gospels by J. Warner Wallace, and really just Apologetics in general
If you want a couple books about how skeptics became convinced of the truth of Christianity I'd recommend:
I would actually recommend this book to you
Cold Case Christianity - J Warner Wallace
J Warner Wallace was a cold case detective that did an empirical analysis base on cold case research techniques on the resurrection of Jesus Christ. I think it would be worth the look.
Imagine if an actual homicide investigator actually investigated the NT
> Prove that this man existed and that he did those things. You can't, just like Muslims can't prove that Mohamed flew to Heaven on a winged horse, and just like Hindus haven't been able to prove that reincarnation is real.
We have eye witness testimonies. There was a detective who works cold cases, and would convict people of crimes based on people's testimonies. He was an Atheist investigating the case for Christ. He found that the people's testimonies lined up, and he would consider them as viable evidence in court, and he came to the conclusion that it was all real.
Why do you not believe in the gospel accounts? They were hand written accounts by people who witnessed an event, or people who spoke to those people. Some of the things Jesus spoke about is verifiable today. As I have pointed out about the Holy Spirit guiding people, and people being able to heal and cast out demons in Jesus' name.
I thought that Cold Case Christianity was an excellent book tracing J Warner Wallace's journey from skepticism to belief. He was a could case detective in LA, and set out to investigate the claims of Christians.
https://smile.amazon.com/Cold-Case-Christianity-Homicide-Detective-Investigates/dp/1434704696/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=cold+case+christianity+by+j.+warner+wallace&qid=1570230013&sprefix=cold+case&sr=8-1
Evidence That Demands a Verdict: Life-Changing Truth for a Skeptical World
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1401676707/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BpmvCbAVGFXZY
Cold-Case Christianity: A Homicide Detective Investigates the Claims of the Gospels
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1434704696/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_0qmvCbH2E153C
That’s a good question. I would recommend that the op examines the evidence for the historicity of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Here is a great place to start:
Cold-Case Christianity: A Homicide Detective Investigates the Claims of the Gospels https://www.amazon.com/dp/1434704696/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Nv2gDbYT5YDQQ