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We found 80 Reddit mentions of S.M.S.L AD18 HiFi Audio Stereo Amplifier with Bluetooth 4.2 Supports Apt-X,USB DSP Full Digital Power Amplifier 2.1 for Speaker,Small 80Wx2 Class D Amplifier with Subwoofer Output. Here are the top ones.
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- This class D amplifier Supports USB coaxial analog Bluetooth and two optical inputs
- With amplifier output port, 3.5mm headphone jack and subwoofer outputs, 80w*2 output power, 1.44-Inch Color screen, The brightness of the display can be adjusted
- Customized BT4.2 Bluetooth module, Supports apt-X, easily connect with Bluetooth by NFC
- The Bluetooth amplifier uses tas5508c+tas5342a from TI as amplifier chips, DSP technology, built-in SDB sound patented
- What you get: SMSL AD18 amplifier, 24V power supply us Plug, Micro USB cable, remote control, antenna, 1 year warranty and friendly customer service
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Sure they do, they make 2.1 amps AND 2.1 AVR's. In terms of AVR's there are a limited number, and Imho you should just go 5.1 if you go the AVR route
In my experience, the 2.1 avrs aren't any smaller than the 5.1 units.
Amplifiers, however, can be very small. But I would only advise buying an amplifier if you are ONLY using a single source. If you need something that can do source switching, an AVR cannot be beat.
SMSL is very popular on r/budgetaudiophile. You could make quite a competent little 2.1 setup with one of those, some good bookshelves and a sub.
Something like this seems pretty ideal for a desktop, to me
Sound quality is not a term I would use to describe either.
In both cases we are talking about a bunch of $5 "full range" drivers stuffed in a tiny housing. Up-firing Atmos doesn't work well with the best of speakers, so having them in a soundbar adds no value.
I will recommend a cheap pair of bookshelf speakers and external amp instead.
You could also get a used AV receiver to save some money on the amp and get better speakers instead. If your budget allows, also get an entry level subwoofer like a Dayton SUB-1200 for $150.
>And I don’t understand speaker setups all that much.
That's your biggest hurdle right there. What are you wanting? I've ran a good stereo-only home theater, and a good 2.1 setup before. I'd rather have either of those than a poor quality 5.1.
Soundbars typically replace quality with quantity. They became popular when TVs started getting real thin and having crap sound. a $2-300 powered speaker setup will have better sound. And if you don't want wires around the room, that's a good place to start.
Get something like these Klipsch R-15PM. You can use them now as-is and add a sub later. That will be a pretty damn solid 2.1 setup.
Or get an AMP and separate SPEAKERS. (Just examples). You can have a good system pretty easily.
If you aren't turned off by your bad experience with the Ai40s, I am using the Fluance signature series bookshelf speakers with an SMSL AD-18 amp. There is no noticeable hiss. I use it for my turntable, pc and tv all with good results. If you only want to use it for your turntable I have heard good things about the SMSL SA50 as a basic amp.
Fluance Signature Series
Anyone have good suggestions for an amp that matches the budget of these speakers? So far I've been looking at this: https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-AD18-Amplifier-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B071JN7GXN
Not entirely done researching all this stuff (newbie audiophile) but it would be nice to hear from someone with IRL experience anyway.
The SMSL AD18 would work great for you. Check it out here:
This would be much more rewarding than messing with those old ones. C-notes or classix II will sound better than those ever could.
That should do it, and it will take the HDMI splitter out of your setup. You could get fancy and grab a NAD 3020 v2 as well.
SMSL SA100 or SMSL AD18.
These have been getting some good user reviews lately and a nice price too, and a pretty small cabinet for a 6.5 inch woofer, 79.99 / pair: 2 Pack 6.5" Bookshelf Home Theater Speakers 100W RMS TP160S-CH DCM by MTX Audio
As for amp's I have two of these (on two different computer systems), Dayton Audio APA 150. This is a serious Class A/B design topology, but no frills, just a well built, serious, "old school" heavy amp. No remote, no DAC, no Bluetooth, but WOW, a really nice, serious, amp! Lots of good user reviews and recommendations all over the net.
A often recommended smaller digital amp S.M.S.L AD18. This one DOES have it all, remote, DAC, bluetooth, relatively small, great reviews all over the net.
If you are really on a budget, try something similar to Lepai LP-2020TI Digital Hi-Fi Audio Mini Class D Stereo Amplifier. Do some searches for tweaking this amp, a very simple way to improve this amp, is to buy a more powerful power brick. There are many versions of this type of amp, amazon, ebay, parts-express, look around.
The other two, often recommended, "great value" speakers that work well with a computer (but you will need an amp), are the Sony SSCS5 3-Way 3-Driver Bookshelf Speaker System (Pair). I have seen these on sale for well under 100/pair, from memory, in the 60's and 70's.
Another great value is the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers(7-1/8” x 12-9/16” x 8-7/16” & weighs 9 lbs 2 oz). Again, search around, these do go on sale for well under 100.00.
I have both the Pioneer and the Sony, and I currently am using the Sony SSCS5 with the Dayton Audio Amp. Was temped to buy the DCM, but I have to stop buying "great value" speakers. If I ever want to upgrade my computer speakers, I should save up and buy the Ascend Audio Luna Reference Ribbon Mini-Monitor.
Good luck, have fun, and Enjoy!
SMSL AD18 might be of service
I bought the SMSL AD18 just this past weekend and I really like it. Powers 45W at 8 ohms, I also have those Polk s15’s and it works well with them. In addition, the unit comes with Bluetooth, a sub out, and a variety of different inputs with the built in DAC. Even with $25 shipping to Canada it comes in under budget for you:
SMSL AD18 HiFi Audio Stereo Amplifier with Bluetooth 4.2 Supports Apt-X,USB DSP Full Digital Power Amplifier 2.1 for Speaker,Small 80Wx2 Class D Amplifier with Subwoofer Output https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_jsfaCb0RG097B
Any single speaker is going to sound terrible compared to a proper 2 speaker setup. Especially that one.
Get these bookshelf speakers along with this receiver.
If you don't have the room for a receiver, this amplifier will work instead.
Can you guys look this over and make sure I have something worth buying? I have about $1000 to spend on a 2.1 setup for a computer desktop setup.
KEF Q150 Bookshelf Speakers
SMSL AD18 HiFi Audio Stereo Amplifier
Then finally one of these three.
Klipsch R-100SW 10" Subwoofer
Klipsch R-120SW 10" Subwoofer
Klipsch Reference R-10SW 10" 300w Powered Subwoofer
Also would I need to buy the speaker wires to set these up or do they come with wire?
> Yeah, that's how the philips works and it's 15 years old haha
Yea 15 years ago they used to be physical push in power buttons that stayed in when power went out.
Now these are all digital power buttons, and so when power goes out, then comes back on, it stays in sleep mode until the power is turned on again.
That would be perfect for an Echo Dot however I think the power going out this amp would still suffer from the same issues in that it'd need to be turned on after a power outage.
Really curious why you're wanting to kill the power completely in something like this.
SMSL AD-18 is tiny but still packs in a ton of features including multiple inputs, Bluetooth, and a remote.
Oh god. Multitech. That was the low-ball budget brand, cheap as hell. They made modems and branched out into CD players for a while. I wouldn't recommend using it. It won't break anything, it's just not going to sound as good as modern equipment.
You can brush up on audio components here:
You only need one amp for everything, but you'll need some way to switch between sources. Basically, you'll want a pre-amp to handle switching and an amp to play them, or both in one box, which is an integrated amp.
SMSL makes a lot of small amps, and this model would do what you're asking:
At this price range you can also start looking at major-brand audio equipment:
Consider an external DAC/AMP. They'll drive a lot more power to your headphones/speakers than the mobo, and I find it easier to control my audio from an external hub. They get crazy expensive, but I've been using the SMSL AD18 for a year and a half, and I think it's neat.
Ok here are some answers/thoughts for you.
Having more wattage available than you need is fine. The high wattage numbers only come into play when you crank the volume like mad.
So what are you looking for, just 2 channel stereo? That can be had quite cheap.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AD18-Stereo-Amplifier-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B071JN7GXN/ - one of the go-to suggestions lately for a simple 2-channel DAC/amp.
Or, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tangent-Ampster-BT-HiFi-Amplifier/dp/B07K5H8FB3/ (there seems to be pics of the other components mixed in, but it should be this unit https://tangent-audio.com/products/9-electronics/162-tangent-ampster-bt-ii/ )
I might go with the Tangent, just because it looks great, doesn't have any flashing lights to annoy you, it has a sub output which may come in handy (though the others do too I believe) and you can get a tuner and CD player in the same look if you want to.
If you want to connect a lot of units to it, you may have issues. There are optical Toslink switches you could use to connect multiple items over optical to its one optical in, though. Or a high quality RCA switch.
These will all do great for a multimedia speaker system.
Kanto Yu4 (4" speaker) -
Kanto Yu6 (5.25" speaker, bigger but will have better output)
Vanatoo Transparent Zero's
As for subwoofers you really can get anything you like. From the budget Bic F12 to the matching Yu Sub8 to anything SVS makes. I know you listed your budget in Euro's, but I don't know a common site like Amazon to just get you basic pricing in Euro's so forgive the links to all over the world.
The other option is to go passive.
Amplifier: SMSL AD18 w/ subwoofer output
Speakers/sub: Anything really. This more depends on regional pricing and availability. Here we can get the KEF Q100's for around $250-$300 US. But anything well reviewed that only needs around 40w of power will work well with that amplifier. There's a good number of well reviewed subs that will work for you with the €350 ish left after the DAC/amp and speakers.
That's a funky media cabinet since most home audio amps and receiver run about 17" wide. Strange.
I think with the PS Sprout 100, you are certainly paying the boutique audio vendor electronics tax. And measurements for it's DAC are a little disappointing given the price https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-ps-audio-sprout100.7049/
If you only need one set of analog inputs, the Emotiva A-100 is a solid choice for $250. It's a no frills power amp with volume control, and that's it: https://emotiva.com/collections/amps/products/a-100
If you would like something with more bells and whistles, the SMSL AD18 could work very well for you: https://www.amazon.com/S-M-S-L-AD18-Amplifier-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B071JN7GXN/
Have you ever heard a pair of Klipsch speakers? Reason I ask is that they can be fatiguingly bright, especially when not using any room correction that might tame them down a bit. I had a pair of unpowered R-14 that I only listened to for about 15 minutes before returning them to Amazon.
I would recommend considering something like the Micca RB42 which have been highly praised to the point of consistently selling out as soon as they come into stock. Review.
You should keep an eye on this auction for Jamo C103 which are originally $1600/pair and sound incredible down to 45hz. Review If these end up around your price range, try and snag them.
Third option: Jamo C93 on ebay. Same tweeter as above, smaller woofer, will still fill a family room. Review.
You might be wanting to stay away from a home theater receiver which I can understand for space, but going with powered speakers really does limit your options. I would entertain looking at a smaller amp like the AD18 that includes bluetooth connectivity and optical for your TV.
EDIT: Would actually recommend playing your music off your TV => optical instead of bluetooth. Spotify connect/airplay is great and then other people can change the song using the TV remote.
This is what I currently use, and it's small enough to fit under my 27in monitor.
SMSL AD18 HiFi Audio Stereo Amplifier with Bluetooth 4.2 Supports Apt-X,USB DSP Full Digital Power Amplifier 2.1 for Speaker,Small 80Wx2 Class D Amplifier with Subwoofer Output https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_zKHUCbH9HTWX4
Pyle tends to be discouraged here
Topping or SMLS will be your best bet for mini amp brands
Topping MX3 also on sale here
Remote Ability Add On would allow you to add a universal remote to your current setup (from what I understand)
Or a PreAmp like this
Chromecast Audio would let you add wireless streaming to an amp without bluetooth
If you dont mind something larger, an AVR receiver like this or this will be your best option
This SMSL AD18 amp seems to be a popular choice in this subreddit. $145, features Bluetooth with Aptx, powers bookshelf speakers well, and a small form factor.
In your situation a cheap DAC like this will do: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MXJ83G4/
No amp required.
If you do want to spend money anyway, here's a decent one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071JN7GXN/
To complicated and confusing. Can you cut to the chase?
You knocked something into something ... then what happened?
"I accidentally kick the hi-fi and knocked it onto the tuner." ...and then ...what?
So, what is it you need? Seemingly a remote, but what happened to the existing remote?
The remote had a AUX/MD switch, but what is MD?
You CAN NOT run the speakers directly from the Computer.
If you want a full universal remote, nothing beats the Logitech Harmony Remotes. Harmony has many thousands of devices that they support, and you can check them in advance on-line to be sure your device is supported.
I use the Harmony 350 with Rotel, Onkyo, Yamaha Stereos with out any problem or conflict.
You plug the Remote into a computer USB input, the go to MyHarmony.com, enter your equipment, it is automatically programmed through the USB connection. No messing with codes or pushing the On/Off button 50 times.
Now if you want to replace your amp, then consider what features you need and how much money you want to spend. You can get a very good very reasonably price Amp w/DAC and decent power for a pretty reasonable price -
SMSL AD-18 Class-D Amp with DAC - $139 -
You will find several very positive reviews of this product on YouTube, this being one of many -
There are many of these Class-D/Class-T amps available on Amazon, the prices range from about $25 up to about $150 depending on brand, power, and features.
I'm still not sure what the problem is or what you need, but hopefully I've given you some options to consider.
I use an SMSL AD18 and it’s a beast of a thing for the price and size. Recommend. Over budget a little (£122) but could get from China cheaper.
SMSL AD18 HIFI Audio Stereo Power Amplifier with Bluetooth Subwoofer Output https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_VJ.5CbN7XFNJ9
I'm with /u/polypeptide147 on this. The more features, the more possibilities for noise, etc.
The cheap amps I own are all much more heavily affected by power noise, crappy audio cables, etc. The Lepai 2020ti handles it better than most. It also benefits from a good power supply.
For example, this line of amps are decent for an outdoor / garage audio setup, but I would never use one on a computer (speaker hiss, very noisy when idle). You're going to be much more sensitive to speaker hiss and distortion, along with many of the "featureful" amps having auto-shutoffs with a slight delay coming back on (causing the start of notification sounds to get cut off).
Edit: if you want featureful, I would go with something like the SMSL AD18 (no personal experience with them) or the Klipsch Powergate (What I'm currently using. See my comment here for some issues I have with it.)
KEF Q100s are on this weekend for $299. Pair that with a dac/amp (SMSL AD18 perhaps) and you’ll be rocking. It’s a bit over your budget but these speakers are usually $600. Also note these are often found in store for those prices if you don’t want to ship.
Here’s the SMSL AD18, another benefit is this does Bluetooth too...
SMSL AD18 HiFi Audio Stereo Amplifier with Bluetooth 4.2 Supports Apt-X,USB DSP Full Digital Power Amplifier 2.1 for Speaker,Small 80Wx2 Class D Amplifier with Subwoofer Output https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_lLW9Bb8MA65VS
It's hard to go wrong with SMSL's amps. The AD-18 is on sale at Amazon for $130: https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-AD18-Amplifier-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542854712&sr=8-3&keywords=smsl+ad18 (I don't see this on Parts Express.) I've got one, and it's served me well.
There's also the SMSL Q5. It doesn't have all the features the AD-18 does, like it doesn't have Bluetooth, and is 50w per channel compared to the AD-18's 80w. But it is $115 at PE: https://www.parts-express.com/smsl-q5-pro-stereo-amplifier-usb-optical-coaxial-dac-with-subwoofer-output-2x40w--230-210
Ok, probably the perfect option for you then.....
Or if you dont have room for or dont want a full sized receiver you can just get a SMSL AD18
Would I risk under driving these with this SMSL AD18 (80w /4ohm)? I often read that is worse that over driving. Would be for a desktop setup.
S.M.S.L AD18 HiFi Audio Stereo Amplifier with Bluetooth 4.2 Supports Apt-X,USB DSP Full Digital Power Amplifier 2.1 for Speaker,Small 80Wx2 Class D Amplifier with Subwoofer Output https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_zz3FDbZDRT4Z6
Some people think the THX logo is a tweeter. (The THX is not a tweeter)
Here's a review http://noaudiophile.com/Logitech_z623/
I don't like the z623 personally, the satellites sound thin and the subwoofer plays too much midrange.
If you think soundbars sound awesome then get a z623. $70 is cheap for audio with bass.
But if you're after better audio then we run into problems.
Some say the Edifier bookshelf speakers are good, The Edifier R1280T No bluetooth is currently on sale. I can't vouch for it for long term listening but I did hear one in person briefly in a store, sounded decent but unsure which model it was.
You can try a Voll 50 Passive speaker and hook it up with a SMSL Audio SA-36A or SMSL AD18 amp. You will need your own speaker wire if you go that route and it obviously all these audio components aren't cheap.
If you want to add a subwoofer in the future then the SMSL AD18 is the way to go, as it has sub-out.
Keep it simple with the Logitech and enjoy the bass or get serious and spend some more money.
i mean this specifically
Exactly! The only benefit of a receiver is it's ability to take signal from hdmi. Something like this would be more than enough power at 80wpc, with built in bluetooth, aux in, and a few digital ins as well if your computer doesn't have a good aux/headphone out.
Or you could go with something a bit cheaper, like this. That one only has one aux(rca) in, so you'd need an aux to rca, female or male. For bluetooth with that amp, I'd get one of these as well as an aux splitter. That way you don't have to unplug anything to switch between bluetooth and aux.
Well you can pick one up fairly cheap, the SMSL Amp tends to gets lots of praise around here.
The TA 100 is actually s good option mentioned above. They currently have a factory refurbished sale and you can get it for $369
If you want to stay cheaper something like the smsl ad18 could work
SMSL AD18 HIFI Audio Stereo Amplifier with Bluetooth 4.2 Supports Apt-X,USB DSP Full Digital Power Amplifier 2.1 for Speaker,Small 80Wx2 Class D Amplifier with Subwoofer Output https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Pyp2Ab9F6RTC4
What about something like this?
I would probably try to save up for a dac/amp combo for computer use instead of the tv dac.
The Topping Mx3 is good, has a sub out for down the road ( r/https://bit.ly/2xhzTMu )
This Smsl would be great too ( r/https://amzn.to/2D4FXgK )
Otherwise, you could go with the amp you linked and spend more on the speakers. Micca mb42x would be good for cheap. I personally love the Parts express c-notes ( they are diy $100 r/https://bit.ly/2H3Jom8 ) and are not much more then the micca's and are superior in every way. Can't go wrong with pioneer bs-22 LR as well, although they are kind of awkwardly sized. I would consider these great budget options.
I'm thinking about going with the KEF Q100s. I still have the Polk S15s on the list. I know they're not as good, but they're a little cheaper and have that rounded look I like. I might go audition them at Best Buy.
I want to save some room for an amp with tone controls, which has actually proven more difficult to find than expected. Just a bass and treble knob would be sufficient. I live in an apartment, and may need to turn the bass down at times.
This SMSL one looks like it would fit the bill. Has aptX as well.
Making my own speaker cables. I use the same wire for the power cables as the signal cables, 12 or 14 gauge?? Then just buy banana plugs and RCA plugs?
Also which amp should I buy? Sabaj A4 or SMSL AD18
Well you can use that to send the optical output signal to any dac amp that has an optical input. Some like a smsl ad18 amp.
Sorry wrong model. Links might be better.
You didn't provide a budget in your OP, don't know why you downvoted me.
And if you want something that can change the volume of your (passive) speakers, that is the definition of an amplifier.
Anyway here you go.
This thing does everything. 2.1 speaker amp, headphone amp, built-in DAC, USB or optical, Bluetooth, even has some EQ presets built in.
What output were you even using from that amp for the low-level input?
That amp isn't made to use with an external sub like that. You would need an amp (usually a receiver) that has a built-in crossover and bass management. That amp is made to use with stereo speakers, so you'll need to do what you're doing and figure out how to tap the high-level (speaker-level) outputs.
By crossover... what are you referring to? A high pass for the mains, a low pass output for the subwoofer, or both?
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're expecting a bit too much at $150 for a desktop amplifier.
Most AVR's will do what you're asking, but they're the wrong form factor for what you desire.
There are a lot of mini desktop amps that have the power requirements (and a few with sub outputs), but at your price point, they are not high passing the mains nor low passing the sub output... is simply a mono, volume controlled output.
You're going to need to significantly increase your amplifier budget if you want both of those features (high pass/low pass, small form factor). Alternatively, compromise and find space for an AVR... or give up on crossover feature (which isn't the end of the world - it'll just require more tweaking/tuning on your part).
Final alternative: buy a different subwoofer... one that has a high pass built into it through RCA (most SVS have this) and use separate preamp and power amp. You can get away with a small preamp on your desk, and hide the power amplifier elsewhere... on the back or side of your desk or something. I dunno what your space looks like - so long as it has room to breathe, you'd be fine.
I have a pair of "ancient" Velodyne CT-120's. I found out, happily, that they will high pass my mains even through the use of the high level inputs/outputs. If you can get one of those, then all you'll need is a mini desktop amp like a Dayton Audio DTA-120bt.
The closest thing to what you're asking is an SMSL AD18. However, it sub output is a full range signal, and it doesn't high pass the mains.
Yes it's a little confusing so I just chose the one with subwoofer output in the title to make sure I didn't get an older version
Hey guys! I recently got my Fluance RT80 and I’ve been loving it! But I’m finally upgrading my speakers and receiver. I settled on a few options and I was wondering which ones you guys would recommend.
SMSL AD18 HIFI Audio Stereo Amplifier ($144)
Yamaha R-S202BL Stereo Receiver $120
ELAC B5 Debut Series 5.25" $229
ELAC B6 Debut Series 6.5" $278
Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers With 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome $89
The top of my budget is about $400. I’m wondering if it’s going to be a noticeable difference to upgrade the speakers from the Micca to the ELAC B5 or even B6. I’ve been trying to find a used receiver as I realize it’s not as important as the speakers but I’ve been finding nothing locally (anything decent is way overpriced). Thanks!
Would you recommend the SMSL AD18?
S.M.S.L AD18 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_k8l0DbTQ75FMQ
Your best bet is probably to go to a local thrift and buy an old AVR or stereo amp. If you're in an urban or suburban area, chances are that you'll be able to find something for $20-30.
If that's not feasible, or if something that large doesn't work for your space, your next best bet is to get a small stereo amp. The SMSL AD18 is more than you noted you want to spend, but it's everything you noted you're seeking. The same company has less expensive models that may also work - - just check on Amazon.
This Lepai is about as cheap as you can find new that will work. I'd recommend spending a little more, but even this with those Sonys will likely be an upgrade over the Logitech.
Lepai @ Parts Express
SMSL Q5 Pro(Silver) - $115
Topping MX3 - $130
SMSL AD18 - $145
These all get great reviews around here and elsewhere. I think the Topping is the current favorite. They all have a sub out as well as DACs, optical, and analog inputs. Just a bit over your budget, but close.
Well, you can get something like this Micca 2.0 speaker amp for just those two. This SMSL 2.1 Speaker / headphone amp with dac and bluetooth to add a sub. This Denon 5.1 receiver as a cheap receiver, or higher end receiver if you want.
It all depends on what you want to do now, how much you want to spend, what your goals are.
Also, there are definitely other options to the 3 i linked. The micca doesnt have digital inputs, but some do. The SMSL has a remote, but is a bit expensive since the Denon offers more for the same price.
Could I use something like this: CLICK HERE and use the headphone out to go to my powered speakers?
The first Monoprice ones are self powered, basically an all in one solution. You'd just have to plug them into power behind the scenes when installing.
For everything else you'll be running speaker cable from the speaker to your amp, whatever you end up picking. Cheap bluetooth devices don't tend to survive all that long so I'd put whatever's at the amp end somewhere easy to troubleshoot and/or replace. Given the kitchen environment I'd avoid anything with a lot of cooling holes/vents just in case of spills or sprays. Keystones would make for a nice and neat install on the amp side. Amps are fairly straightforward. The Powernode I linked early is an outstanding value, if a bit large. NAD's D3020 is more counter friendly. If you want to go cheaper there's any number of Chinese brands like SMSL but I can't vouch for their quality.
Cheaper speakers are dicey, I'd just look for a reassuring number of reviews saying that they don't sound like trash. As a bit of an audio snob I'd rather be safe than sorry, especially when it comes to carving holes in the ceiling to the specific size of that speaker.
The cheapest I'd go for a good option for both speakers and headphones would be the SMSL AD18: https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-AD18-Amplifier-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B071JN7GXN
Oh ok, I looked through the manual but it's very sparse with any info.
Sounds like it does have inputs you can use, do they look like this? If they do you just need a basic 3.5mm to RCA cable to connect your phone to the system.
>so could you tell me how to use those speakers to work for my phone/laptop? Using an amplifier like you mentioned?
If you don't want to use the main sony unit, yeah you could buy an amplifier and connect the speakers to that instead.
Something like this for a cheaper one that you'd connect with a cable to your phone, or if you wanted a nicer one with bluetooth this would be a good option.
For ref, I bought the 2nd gen SMSL AD18:
4mm copper cable
Rosewood-Mahogany Bronze 2s (soo puuurdy)
I went for a different set of foam pads to the ones I linked previously. These are the ones I was referring to in previous post:
Something like the SMSL AD18 could work.
So I'm by no means a hobbyist. In fact, as of today I just purchased my first pair of ELAC bookshelf speakers. Over at r/buildapcsales, people were raving over these speakers for the price. So I bit! The problem is I know next to nothing about how to set these things up.
I know I need Banna plugs, speaker wire and an amp (and a sub ^(ill probably buy a) ^(Polk) ^(later)). I will be using these with my new PC I'm building currently. I'd also like to be able to run my echo do (mainly for Alexa functions and streaming music) through this system.
I have a few amps in my cart atm via Amazon.
So if I'm planning on sync devices via the echo I don't technically need Bluetooth receiver in my amp, right? What about if I have a Bluetooth in my motherboard? I'm not sure if there's a difference between devices like keyboards and audio devices with Bluetooth.
Thanks for the Help Experts,
There’s always the used market. Otherwise, something like the SMSL AD18 would be adequate, not really any worthwhile better products in the $250 range, and the popular entry level Yamaha/Onkyo stereo integrated amps are $350.
I was in a similar position with my Xbox, and PC set up.
I ended up going with this. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_SlXvCb15C35GB
I've really enjoyed it. Has all the imputs you need even Bluetooth/micro USB/aux. Paired with my Klipsch R-15's or my dt770s, it's taken my set up to a new level and for a pretty good price.
What do you guys think about this setup and what subwoofer would you recommend? (using this setup for audio / pc)
SLSA AD18 Amp: https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-AD18-Amplifier-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1BMUYY0PQU2F2&keywords=ad18+amp&qid=1550955852&s=gateway&sprefix=ad18%2Caps%2C126&sr=8-2
Micca mb42x: https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=micca&qid=1550955834&s=gateway&sr=8-3
Is it better to get an all-in-one desktop solution or a more expensive modular desktop solution?
Right now I just want really good speakers for my desktop. I've been hardset on the Vanatoo T0's, which include bluetooth, usb, optical, and aux in. They're pretty much everything I need in one amazing package.
But on the other hand, I've been looking at near-field studio monitors like the JBL 305P, the Mackie MR524 and audio interfaces like the Mackie Big Knob and other DAC's. The big knob also has an input for a microphone which I might want to use for high-quality recording.
Then there's also buying a desktop amp like the SMSL AD18 paired with an actual pair of speakers.
Both the modularity and upgradability appeal to me, but the compactness of the vanatoo's is also so nice.
It looks like the SMSL AD18 have all the inputs and output you need:
Take a look at the SMSL AD18 you’ll get 2.1 but no Atmos - S.M.S.L AD18 HiFi Audio Stereo Amplifier with Bluetooth 4.2 Supports Apt-X,USB DSP Full Digital Power Amplifier 2.1 for Speaker,Small 80Wx2 Class D Amplifier with Subwoofer Output https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_kaJFDbGY2V9EK
Also r/budgetaudiophile will have some good suggestions
What's a good sub and amp that would go well with the Micca MB42X?
I was thinking this...
(I'm Canadian, thus the amazon.ca links)
For the record, I'm just after the best compact sound, meaning small footprint because I want to be more minimal with space. This is why I'll be getting the micca MB42X's, because they are small and have decent sound.
But I want some bass to help fill it out and obviously something to power. Plus bluetooth is nice, and also being able to program my universal remote is key as I just can have one remote for the tv and then whichever amp I get.
I currently have a big pair or cerwin vegas and a yamaha amp which sound great, but I just want to have a smaller setup.
Cheers and thanks in advance!
I'm tryin to get a setup for a not so big room (4m x 4m) (13.1 ft x 13.1 ft),
I have the next options for a setup :
- MX3 topping amplifier (50wpc) (120 USD) or SMSL AD18 (80wpc) (180 USD): https://www.amazon.com/Topping-MX3-Bluetooth-Headphome-Amplifier/dp/B075SYC4Z5https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-AD18-Amplifier-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B071JN7GXN/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=ADSL+ad18&qid=1563892863&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr0
- KEF Q350 (600 USD) or Klipsch RP-600M (700 USD) (local supplier)
My budget is something around 1k USD, I own a FIO X5 II and a soundblaster E5 that I can use as a DAC
Wich option would you recommend me ? Should I invest the extra money into a better amp ? get a new DAC or get a different pair of speakers ?
My plan is to invest into the setup another 1k USD the next year, this is just the begining of something great.
Thanks a lot
SMSL AD18 and Micca rb42 would be a good desktop setup. The amp has a headphone output you can also use, Bluetooth if you ever wanted to listen to music off your phone and a controller if you're away from your desk. Easy upgradability for future reference. The speakers produce good bass on their own which is great because that sounds better than having a desk between you and a subwoofer.
maybe this SMSL AD18 it's small has few inputs(one of inputs doubles as sub out look into manual)
or SMSL q5pro
How many speakers are you trying to run?
some Class D amps/DAC combos have remotes if all you need is 2.0 or 2.1
thanks for the details.
so you definitely are needing powered speakers or an amp and speakers.
personally, i'd lean towards the Ai60s just for the convenience of the blue-tooth and optical input options, and the remote to switch between your sources is a bonus. powered speakers mean less cables, which may be less of an advantage for you, since you already have a stack of components.
if you don't mind the less bassy frequency response of the Eris 4.5's, i think they are a great brand and product line.
plus lower price than the Ai60's, and they are true studio monitors.
for more money you can get a pair of Micca MB42X - $80
a powered 8" sub - $150
and a 2.1 amp - $150
This setup would get plenty loud with good bass on a desktop. If you're looking for serious volume, you may have to find a more sensitive speaker.
if your using it for a computer setup the smsl ad18 is hard to beat. I'd be willing to bet something like a Yamaha s-501 would only be slightly better sound quality.
If you wanted to save some desk space then you could get a something like a SMSL AD18 but you'll likely giving up some power to go that route but you get an external DAC and a small form factor amp.
Thank you very much for the detailed response! So far leaning towards storing the SA-5000 for the future, swapping/selling the Amps for a modern bluetooth-enabled micro unit like this one and getting a small, basic turntable preamp.