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u/Nucleofile · 1 pointr/chemistry

As much as I absolutely loved that book, I would not suggest it for OP if they are not familiar with relatively end-stage calculus (there are a number of partial derivatives in there) and quantum theory. It is true that the thermodynamics might help, but even people within my own class of chemistry students at my university struggled to grasp the text. Again, this depends entirely on what OP's learning style.

If, on the other hand, OP is desiring some stimulation from the world of physical chemistry, especially from the aspect of organic chemistry (which I assume to be the next step in OP's studies) would be the Anslyn text Modern Physical Organic Chemistry. It is advanced mind you and assumes some understanding in organic and physical chemistry, but it is a very stimulating approach to both and I would highly recommend both as future reading and as a book simply to keep around - it is quite good.

Again, if OP has a solid mathematical background, the McQuarrie text really is great - one of my favorite texts until my current program.

If OP is looking for something truly interesting that, again, will help to solidify everything they learn as they progress, I would recommend (against most everyone's opinion, partially including my own due to Housecraft's overabundance of fluff) the Inorganic Chemistry by Housecraft. Again, some of this is relatively advanced, but it contains information that is extremely satisfying and, personally, helped to solidify many of the concepts I had learned leading up to that point in my undergraduate career.

If you have some desires, please post more, OP! Nice to hear people in those years are interested in stimulating their own education! Best of luck!

u/halfshellheroes · 5 pointsr/Eugene

I think more than just an issue with simplicity or difficulty this is a matter or feasibility. A grad student could easily get their dissertation doing this project for just one molecule. However if you're serious about this let me give you some advice.

  • When I say decomposition pathway, I mean physically what are the molecules in your battery doing in order to produce a current or energy? This will require a large understanding of electrochem and physics as well as an exceedingly up to date understanding of material sciences in the physical chemistry field. I recommend start by reading publications on current "next gen batteries" and see where that takes you. If you go to the UO science library you can use their computers to go through the literature. I'd recommend reading Journal of Chemical Physics, Physical Chemistry Chemical Physics, American Chemical Society, American Physical Society, and/or Physical Review Letters

  • Drop this notion of a permutation set, or at least limit it to a molecule class (with specific allowed elements or lengths). Unless you set up exceedingly smart parameters all you will get is 99% of your data being for molecules that absolutely can't be used for batteries. For starters, do you want to find organic compounds that combust like gasoline as a source for fuel? I think you more likely want something like a Lithium ion cell which would require you to look at transition metals. Be less concerned about being able to make a set of 10^50 molecules and instead focus on how (from a general molecule motif) would you generate energy in current form. How much energy do you get from a redox reaction of Li in acid versus a complex of (Li)_n. An added complexity is that the order in which you arrange them will also change the bonding. This isn't just, will it make a linear chain or will it fork, or will it be circular; this is going to involve analyzing how the electrons interact on an orbital level. This work is basically probing the question of how catalyst work (an answer to which would undoubtedly get you a Nobel prize).

  • Being that you will most likely need to do some type of oxidation reduction reaction (you'll see a lot of excitonic processes currently being used for energy) to generate free electrons this guarantees that you will need to do ab initio quantum calculations. In order to do that you have to basically derive the energy of losing however many electrons in a specific manner in a vacuum at 0 K. HF will NOT cut it. You will need to use several high leveled theory basis sets and compare the results. This means you will not only need to understand mathematically how these calculations are done, but also understand quantum mechanically how best to represent poorly defined things such as single charge states, ionization, and far more complicated advanced topics.

  • Look into Density Functional Theory (DFT). For reactions that mix between classical and quantum (semi-empirical) it's the current standard way to go. That being said, this is not a technique that can be generalized to any molecule. Every simulation is exceedingly specific to every case.

  • You will need computers. Lots of computers. Either you build your own super computer and drain your bank account funding the electricity (you will need to be a billionaire to do this) or you do what any sane theoretical chemist would do and apply for grants to some of the XSEDE super computers. Keep in mind the grant cycle just ended so you'll have to wait until next year to even begin applying and you'll need to convince way tougher scientists than me. If you're planning on doing semi-empirical and especially if you plan to do any ab initio calculations you will need a lot of computational resources. Try playing around with Gaussian (g09) available for free on most linux machines to get an idea of how long these calculations take and how much more processing power and memory you'll need.

    Here are some books and resources that will catch you up McQuarrie, Cramer, Marcus Theory, and all things Mukamel for electron transfer.

    Good luck!

    [EDIT]: As far as temperature goes, that's a concern more so for the effects on a classical level, so you need a MD or semi-empirical system with a good forcefield defined.
u/corrado33 · -4 pointsr/cringe

> The bra-ket notation is literally just a way of notating linear algebra. The math doesn't change because of how you write it down.

You've obviously never taken a quantum mechanics class. It's taught as one or the other. I'm not arguing it's different, hence why I said the bra-ket "notation". It's simply the way chemists and physicists prefer to represent the schrodinger equation because it makes their math look better for their most commonly used applications.

I present to you, a perfect example.

This here is a book generally used by chemists when being taught quantum mechanics.

https://www.amazon.com/Physical-Chemistry-Molecular-Donald-McQuarrie/dp/0935702997

And now here is a book generally used by physicists when being taught the same thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Quantum-Mechanics-R-Shankar-ebook/dp/B000SEIXA2

Do you see how one book works almost exclusively in the linear algebra space while the other works almost exclusively using bra-ket notation? It's a choice, made by professors. Yes, you can learn both, it's not hard. This is why I know you've never taken a quantum mechanics class because this is made extraordinarily clear to everybody in the class. "These two things teach you the same stuff but in different ways. We choose to use this way."

> As for physical chemistry defining how everything works, how much particle physics do you do as a physical chemist?

Well considering I'm a spectroscopist, and a mechanist, quite a bit actually. And sure, I'm sure particle theory absolutely can explain pretty much everything.... in the longest most roundabout way possible. I wasn't aware, however, that the interactions of quarks (other than the electron....) came into play for the typical, everyday chemical reactions that occur constantly. In fact, are there not very few reactions that humans can achieve that actually have enough energy to split a proton or neutron into their constituent parts? I'm pretty sure that once the big bang cooled down everything pretty much settled into the subatomic particles we know and love today. So I mean, unless you plan on replicating the types of heat seen in the big bang.... that level of detail is... well... superfluous. Sure, it MAY be useful in SOME nuclear reactions, but even then, not always. If particle theory explained everything, why is it not used to explain everything? Go on.... explain. I'm waiting.

Also I find it funny that you assume that we didn't learn about subatomic particles smaller than the proton and the neutron. We simply know that they aren't really that useful for most normal situations. In theory? Sure. In reality? No. We're chemists, not theorists. We get shit done.

> Edit: it's also worth noting that bra-ket notation is typically introduced at the undergraduate level of quantum mechanics.

Congratulations! You've discovered the meaning of the word "introduced!"

u/Platypuskeeper · 2 pointsr/chemistry

Learning programming is good. C++ is always a good language to know (and you more or less get C as a bonus) Structured/Object-Oriented programming languages are all fairly similar (and constitute all the most used ones) Basically it's more important to learn to program than which language, as learning another language is relatively easy once you understand the concepts well. In this day and age, knowing programming is good for anyone in science, anyhow. Some basic course on numerical methods (i.e. solving math problems on computers) would be a good idea too.

As it were, a lot of stuff is still written in Fortran though (in particular in QC), which is rather ancient as far as programming languages go. But it's probably better to learn a modern language before learning Fortran (which, compared to C++ is mostly a subset, akin to C).

Jensen's book (which cyrus linked to) is a pretty good introductory overview of the field. Levine's "Quantum chemistry" is introductory and still relatively broad, but a bit more in-depth book on QC in particular. I'm also partial to Piela's book, which I like for being rather conceptual and descriptive rather than formula-laden. Koch's DFT book is a good one on DFT in particular. Parr and Yang is the polar opposite - very mathematical, but something of a 'bible' for anyone who wants to get into the actual method development side of stuff, although not for the faint-hearted. Szabo and Ostlund is still popular, but IMO dated and not as useful as newer books. It's also relatively mathematical. Helgaker's tome, a more advanced book, is one of few that actually goes into some detail about the computational methods used. (With QC, you could read most of the books above and still be fairly clueless about how to actually write a program to do anything other than the most basic Hartree-Fock calculation)

Although pricey, I liked McQuarrie's book on thermodynamics a lot. It's all you'd need in that area to get you from undergrad to grad level.

If you intend to go into the QC side of theo-chem, learning as much math and quantum as possible is recommended. (although relativistic quantum mech and QFT would be strictly voluntary) How much you'll need depends on what you want to do though; MM/MD methods are theoretically/mathematically a lot simpler than QC methods, and if you're more into 'applied' QC rather than method development, there's less need to know about the fine details, too. But it's good to keep your options open, and lacking the necessary maths skills is certainly a barrier-to-entry for theochem. In particular for those from chemistry backgrounds, who typically have studied less math.

(I was a chemistry undergrad, but I took all the physics students' maths courses. So I can attest to both having had use of most of it, and that it certainly helped me get into grad school.)

u/wygibmer · 16 pointsr/chemistry

It sounds like on one hand you want a historical context for how quantum mechanics came to be, and on the other you want a proof for what are wholly postulated (and thus unprovable) laws. Do you have the same complaints about Newton's Laws? Those are also postulated, but since we can observe them on the spatial and temporal scales we have evolved to experience unaided, they seem more intuitive. If we could instead see the wave nature of the quantum world all the time, Newton's Laws might be equally baffling to ponder. In short, the Schrodinger Equation is no more or less provable than F = ma. We only have their consistent success in reproducing observable phenomena to put stock in.

With that said, the onset of quantum mechanics was a necessary solution to observed phenomena that could not be accounted for with classical laws (for instance, black-body radiation, Young's double slit experiment or Einstein's photoelectric effect). There are six postulates which govern quantum mechanics at its roots, and these are not provable (again, much like Newton's Laws). The only reason these postulates are taken to be laws is that they reproduce everything we can observe on the quantum scale (although, as you learn more about these you will see a certain logic to their necessity, but no formal proof).

As for your question about the imaginary part of the wave function, you should know from calculus that all wave functions have imaginary character via Euler's Relation. If you want to use trig functions, the complex exponential comes along for the ride--and in fact, makes many quantum problems way more approachable than the traditional sine/cosine formulation. The necessity of squaring the wave function (actually, you are multiplying by its complex conjugate) stems from this issue--a complex number has no physical meaning, but by squaring it, you are making the value real.

As for your question about momentum--check out Table 1 in the postulates link above. Momentum is one of a number of Hermitian operators that can operate on your wave function to return a value for an observable phenomenon. Thus, if you determine the wave function for a system of interest, you can operate on that wave function with one of these operators, and you will get back an eigenvalue in front of your wave function that corresponds to an observable phenomenon. This is perhaps a good time to point out that there is not "a wave equation" but rather uncountably many wave equations that govern different systems under different conditions. In fact, the only wave function we can derive analytically is that of the hydrogen atom. Once you introduce more than one electron, their interactions with each other as well as the nucleus need to be solved numerically (by making certain approximations, for instance that the nuclei are fixed in space, since their motion is so much slower than that of the electrons).

I'm sure this is an incomplete answer to your question, and the truth is it takes a long time to wrap your head around what I've discussed here--and this is only scratching the surface of the state of the art. Let me know if I can clarify anything further.

EDIT: I suggest the first 8 chapters of this book for a more complete, coherent introduction to what you are asking about.

u/chemicalcloud · 1 pointr/FIU

If anyone's taking general chemistry, I have this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Chemistry-Molecular-Approach-2nd-US/dp/0321651782/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1377655240&sr=1-2&keywords=tro+chemistry

in perfect condition. It's not the same edition used this year but they don't actually assign homework from it (they do hw on mastering chemistry and blackboard - at least they did when I took it).

It's 100 bucks used on Amazon and I'm willing to sell it for 70 bucks.

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I also have this organic chemistry solution manual:

http://www.amazon.com/Organic-Chemistry-Student-Solutions-Manual/dp/047047839X/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1377655506&sr=8-11&keywords=organic+chemistry+solutions+manual#selectedObb=rbb_ubb_trigger

also in good condition. Amazon sells it used for 87 bucks. I'm willing to sell it for 60.

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PM me if interested about either of them. I'm at south campus every day. =]

u/attitudegratitude · 1 pointr/USF

took pchem else where but honestly it's a different beast.

I loved it but if you're not proficient in calc try to take a biophysical chem class instead or else it's going to be miserable.

I've been told we use McQurrie's (which is good because it's the best Pchem textbook) here. so if you take it Buy McQurrie's answer manual it's expensive for a non-required book but it'll be worth it.

u/Mastian91 · 3 pointsr/math

Similarly, McQuarrie Physical Chemistry may be helpful.

At my school, pchem was divided into a first semester which covered the quantum chemistry of individual atoms/molecules, and a second semester which used some of these quantum ideas (but mostly statistics and thermo) to talk about the statistical mechanics of collections of particles. I believe that McQuarrie's Physical Chemistry covers both, but note that the "mathematical review" sections are just brief interludes. For a more thorough treatment of math methods for physical scientists, consider the Mary Boas book. This book mostly focuses on physics applications, but from my experience in pchem, I would argue that it's just a very "applied" or "specific" version of quantum (or thermal, E&M, etc.) physics.

Also, for quantum chem, it is of utmost importance to be familiar with matrices, vectors, and ideally some of the more fancy portions of a first course in linear algebra, like bases and diagonalization. Although the relative importance of calculus/DE vs. linear algebra might depend on whether your course follows a "Schrodinger" vs. "Heisenberg" (not the Walter White one) approach, respectively.

u/egyptianwoah · 10 pointsr/chemistry

This is the book that was used in my physical chemistry class. I enjoyed it quite a bit as it is written very well and the practice problems help quite a bit. The book is extremely thorough when going through all of the derivations of equations and give pretty good logical explanations while going through the problems as long as you understand how the algebra and calculus works. The biggest con with it however is that the figures which go along with some of the book can be quite difficult to understand the first time you are looking at them. The book can also be quite dry at times. Because of this, I had also picked up the Atkins book because I found it used for cheap on amazon. The Atkins book is a bit less dry and the figures are way more pleasant to look at, however it seems to be a little less in depth than the McQuarrie book.

No matter which book you choose to go with just be aware that the class can be extremely difficult for people and the most important thing is to make sure you are putting a lot of time into the class. It might be worthwhile to find a decent calculus review and to go through it before taking the class if you feel at all lacking in that department. If you do this you will succeed and possibly even really enjoy the class. I was incredibly nervous going in to the class but it turned out to be one of my favorite classes I took my entire undergrad.

u/chemcloakedschemer · 1 pointr/chemistry

As you get through certain concepts in lecture, do the corresponding problems in the ACS guide. They give pretty good explanations.

My PChem prof used Engel and Reid and it's pretty readable that you should be OK. If you really want another text to draw from I'd look into McQuarrie's text aka "The Big Red Brick".

u/ninjafizzy · 239 pointsr/funny

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    Elements of Chemical Reaction Engineering (4th Edition) | $122.84
    Molecular Thermodynamics | $80.17
    Physical Chemistry: A Molecular Approach | $89.59
    Quantum Physics of Atoms, Molecules, Solids, Nuclei, and Particles | $128.32
    Introduction to Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics (The Mcgraw-Hill Chemical Engineering Series) | $226.58
    Organic Chemistry 8th Edition | $186.00
    Elementary Differential Equations | $217.67
    Numerical Methods for Engineers, Sixth Edition | $200.67
    Applied Partial Differential Equations | $20.46
    Transport Phenomena, 2nd Edition | $85.00
    Basic Engineering Data Collection and Analysis | $239.49
    Calculus (9th Edition) | $146.36
    Elementary Principles of Chemical Processes, 3rd Edition | $206.11
    Inorganic Chemistry (4th Edition) | $100.00
    Fundamentals of Heat and Mass Transfer | $197.11
    Biochemistry: A Short Course, 2nd Edition | $161.45
    Separation Process Principles: Chemical and Biochemical Operations | $156.71
    University Physics with Modern Physics (13th Edition) | $217.58
    Speakers | $50.00

    Most you can get is $1476.86 (selling all of the books (used and hard cover) in person), and if you sell it on Amazon, they take around 15% in fees, so you'll still get $1255.33. But wait...if you sell it to your university's book store, best they can do is $.01.

    Total cost: $2832.11 (including speakers)

    Net loss: -$1355.25 (books only). If sold on Amazon, net loss: -$1576.78 (books only). Speakers look nice; I wouldn't sell them.

    Edit: Added the two books and the table. /u/The_King_of_Pants gave the price of speakers. ¡Muchas gracias para el oro! Reminder: Never buy your books at the bookstore.

    Edit 2: Here are most of the books on Library Genesis
    Thanks to /u/WhereToGoTomorrow
u/aossey · 4 pointsr/chemistry

We used McQuarrie and Simon and I loved it. Not sure if the fact that I was a ChemE major makes a difference in my preferred textbook, but I thought it was great.

It also has a solution guide that I found to be helpful many times for learning how to approach problems.

u/premed4 · 1 pointr/Piracy

Hi, don't mean to bug you, but could you point me in the right direction? I've been looking for this book that was published in '97, but I can't find it on any of the popular torrent sites. Thanks!

u/Vephyrium · 1 pointr/UMD

your tripping out, just buy the 2nd edition from amazon for like 15$ and save some money and you'll be fine, chemistry hasn't changed a whole lot in the past decade.

https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Chemistry-Molecular-Approach-2nd/dp/032175090X/ref=mt_hardcover?_encoding=UTF8&me=

u/cgnops · 2 pointsr/chemistry

I really liked reading "the importance of antibonding orbitals" by Orchin and Jaffe.
http://www.amazon.com/importance-antibonding-orbitals-Milton-Orchin/dp/B0006BPT5O

I also like "orbitals interactions in chemistry" by Albright, Burdett and Whangbo.
http://www.amazon.com/Orbital-Interactions-Chemistry-Thomas-Albright/dp/0471873934

Often "chemical applications of group theory" by Cotton is used to teach group theory and get started in MO
All should be available at your university library

u/Berused · 1 pointr/chemistry

The school assigned us Zumdahl's book, and my professor highly recommended against it. He recommended Tro's Chemistry- A Molecular Approach. I have loved that book ever since.

This is it.

u/Re_Re_Think · 1 pointr/TrueAtheism

A Tree Grows in Brooklyn - on reading and education as the door to escaping poverty. Might be a little young for them.

The Grapes of Wrath - on the humanity and the inhumanity humans and industry are capable of in harsh times. Might be a little long/dry/boring.

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Basically any science fiction novel by Greg Bear, because they are probably mind-blowing in vision to a teenager who hasn't had exposure to ideas of such scale (at least, they were to me. But I don't know how the parents would react to them, or if these girls like science fiction)

Blood Music- themes of nanotechnology and perception changing humanity

The Forge of God- on the destruction of earth once it becomes noticeable enough to aliens. And its sequel

Anvil of Stars- on whether revenge can be justified, how libertarian/cooperatives groups break down or are usurped, and an unusual alien race.

Queen of Angels- on psychology, consciousness, artificial intelligence, virtual reality and the beginnings of an internet (before there was an internet).

Eon- an asteroid suddenly appears in orbit, and its unusual history and construction destabilizes earth during the Cold War, but opens the door to alien technologies and civilizations. And its sequel

Eternity- the far future of humanity, conflict with an alien race, travel in space and time.

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But to be honest two books that would give them a fundamental understanding of how the world actually operates, if they aren't being exposed to it, would be:

Campbell and Reece's Biology

and

Chemistry: A Molecular Approach

They don't require too much math other than algebra, and though they're kind of expensive, they're worth it. The utter logic of how scientific thinking is done can be easily introduced with biology and an understanding of the atomic framework chemistry teaches is invaluable because it explains so many behaviors in our world. Maybe in e-book format or something, so they're not as obvious.

u/Rhioms · 1 pointr/chemistry

See if you can pick up a copy of the textbook before hand, and look through it, and see what you need to learn/ brush up on for the subjects. If they haven't posted a booklist yet, email the professor, they will likely be willing to tell you. If not, take a look at McQuarry, It's a pretty standard book for the course.

u/PoliteLittleLover · 0 pointsr/chemistry

Chemistry: A Molecular Approach by Tro is my favorite gen. chem book. Really well-written and easy to understand.

http://www.amazon.com/Chemistry-Molecular-Approach-2nd-US/dp/0321651782/

u/thebillywayne · 2 pointsr/chemhelp

This is a really great book. Not sure how "undergraduate" it is. But I'm not sure just how undergraduate chemical kinetics, as subject all to its own, is either. The mathematics is not the simplest.

But this book will cover any topic. It's very thorough.

I'd also recommend McQuarrie's PChem book. It has a very clear section on kinetics. And it's my favorite PChem book, but only just nudging out Atkins.

u/sooneday · 1 pointr/chemhelp

Do a lot of problems. Doing problems helps more than studying your notes.

Also, fuck the textbook they assign. Get this one, it's by far the best pchem book. It does an excellent job of teaching the math and the theory.

http://www.amazon.com/Physical-Chemistry-A-Molecular-Approach/dp/0935702997/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375808822&sr=8-1&keywords=physical+chemistry+a+molecular+approach

Finally, learn to derive the equations. Even if you aren't tested on derivations, it really helps you grok the material and how all the pieces relate.

u/coniform · 3 pointsr/AskScienceDiscussion

For physical chemistry, I recommend [this big red brick book](
http://www.amazon.com/Physical-Chemistry-Molecular-Donald-McQuarrie/dp/0935702997) by McQuarrie and Simon. For catalysis, I like this book by Kolasinski.

u/[deleted] · -4 pointsr/OkCupid

The class was called In depth Physical Chemistry 2, we did the first 6 weeks of the lab with additional math specifically for the class. Linear and matrix algebra stuff, PDEs mainly for Schrodinger Equation, Laplace, stuff like that. It was Quantum, then we did 4 weeks of statistical mechanics, mainly related to gases(rms and such). We covered up to group theory stuff, did the variation theorem for determining energy.

The degree is ACS Materials Chemistry if you want to look it up.

My tutor was a PhD Computational Physics student, he said my material was a combination of his Quantum mechanics classes and modern physics classes.

My textbook was "Physical Chemistry, A Molecular Approach" By McQuarrie and Simon.
https://www.amazon.com/Physical-Chemistry-Molecular-Donald-McQuarrie/dp/0935702997/ref=sr_1_1?crid=104CZMDKGH520&keywords=physical+chemistry+a+molecular+approach&qid=1571241383&sprefix=physical+chemistry+a+mol%2Caps%2C128&sr=8-1

u/foldedcrane · 5 pointsr/chemistry

I have this one. It's pretty similar to the Prentice Hall kit (but cheaper, always a plus). I haven't had any problems with the pieces, unlike other kits — the one my university recommends has rigid bonds that occasionally snap if you're making something with a weird conformation.

u/SLO_Chemist · 1 pointr/CalPoly

Yes, this will work for you. Older editions will also work and be much cheaper:

u/G-Brain · 5 pointsr/chemistry

McQuarrie is quite well-regarded. I like it.

u/ConnorF42 · 1 pointr/chemistry

Have you had any physics? It's normally required for a P-Chem class. Perhaps starting with physics would help you with the regular p-chem textbooks? The P-Chem textbook I see recommended the most here is probably this one, but it isn't really biology based.

u/jdcl · 4 pointsr/chemistry

Don't be too nervous, it's the biggest weed out class and gets a bad reputation for this alone. Perhaps many students who like the idea of chemistry and are not comfortable in math are talking. The fact you're even trying to get ahead means you're the type of student that will be okay. Think of it like a math class for chemistry, outside practice is required.

I can only speak for the thermo semester, I'm finishing that up right now and doing quantum in the fall. Brush up on calc III partial derivatives, specifically with fractions. You'll probably dive head first into gas law partials if thermo is your first semester. They're not even that complex, you just have to be methodical/neat when doing them. Also integration, look up the derivations of root mean square, mean speed etc. If your'e iffy on integration, practice those too.

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Resources that really helped me:

  • MIT's website has decent free notes that breakdown core concepts if your professor lacks in the detail department. https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/chemistry/5-60-thermodynamics-kinetics-spring-2008/lecture-notes/
  • This youtube channel is gold for pchem/physics, just use the channel search function since he has so many. https://www.youtube.com/user/ilectureonline/playlists
  • I bought the McQuarrie book (https://www.amazon.com/Physical-Chemistry-Molecular-Donald-McQuarrie/dp/0935702997) and it helps in some areas that Atkins lacked.
  • Little known but golden book for an undergrad, Essentials of Physical Chemistry by Don Shillady. Really helped me in the beginning. He writes it for undergrad level knowledge and is able to explain in plain English what the intuition should be, mathematically as well. https://www.amazon.com/Essentials-Physical-Chemistry-Don-Shillady/dp/1439840970

    If the Atkin's book doesn't cut it, usually another university's website will have plenty of material that explains it in other words, just need to Google it.

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    As mentioned, it's a math class for chemistry. Go to the back of the book and solve all different types of problems. Write down on the paper, in english, what a step means if you don't understand initially why it happens. I used Chegg to backwards engineer most problems, wrote down The Why, and then owned the problem solving approach for the future.

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    I only have one more test/ACS final left, I have over a 100% average right now and an A in lab while taking 21 credits with research, tutoring etcetc everyone will have an excuse why it sucks. I'm not inherently good at math either, I just practice. It's all doable, you just need to work some on your own and ask your professor a million questions. They will likely be so smart they don't realize they skip things. They may also be happy someone gives a damn in that class.

    Sorry for the long response, but I hope this helps. I often feel dragged down by my peers complaining or instilling fear for classes, just do your own thing.
u/StreetSharks · 3 pointsr/AskReddit

I know that general chemistry by Nivaldi Tro recently released the second edition of the text. In turn my university abandoned the first edition and requires students to buy the new version. About 800 students a year take that class at my university, I'm sure that there are many first edition books that are unwanted and in circulation. I would suggest she looks into this book if possible.