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Some recommendations.
Ambidextrous mouses
Dream Machines DM1 FPS - Have heard good things about these mouses. Haven't used one personally but would not be against one if I was looking to try something different than what I already have.
Zowie FK series - Difference between the FK1, FK1+ and FK2 are just size.
Logitech G Pro - Personally I prefer the original over the new version with the Hero sensor because I like the PMW3366 better than the Hero16K but most people state they can't notice the difference. Also, original is pretty cheap right now.

Ergonomic mouses
Zowie EC series - Users report having issues with the scroll wheels on the B models (EC1-B,EC2-B) but that seems to be hit or miss. I have an EC2-B that I love and have no issues with. The B models have a newer sensor than the A models. B models have the PMW3360 sensor.
Logitech G403 - Great sensor (PMW3366) and fairly light at just over 87 grams.

You will probably notice these are some of the most popular mouses on this subreddit, haha. Take my recommendations with a grain of salt and do your own research as well. Hope this helped in any way!

I've had this Logitech G9x since 2010 and it's starting to show it's age. Recently rebent the springs under the left and right clicks to get rid of the double tapping, but now the back and forward buttons are starting to go and the wheel is less than accurate. Dealing with parts that small was a frustrating experience, but it's still serviceable so I'd like to put this mouse in storage "just in case". Or try to tune it up, then store it anyway. Regardless:

• I'll play just about anything, occasionally MMOs but not enough to justify 20+ buttons. Skyrim, UT, Borderlands, etc.
  
  
• Right handed
  
  
• Budget of somewhere around $50-80 (USD) (Prefer Amazon, have Prime)
  
  
• 22cm from base of palm to tip of middle finger
  
  
• Preferred grip is more fingertip than palm grip.
  
  
• Prefer heavier mice, been using my G9x with 4 x 7g weights for a few years now. (Doesn't need to be THIS heavy, a solid feel/construction is great too!) Definitely not a high DPI gamer, current setting is around 3000 IIRC.
  
  
• Three things that are pretty key, I dual-boot Linux and Windows, only ever on Windows to play something that doesn't play nice with Linux. So if the mouse can keep settings separate from the software and it works in Linux, that's a huge plus. Second, it's gotta look good with my Corsair K70 (Blue LED). I really dig the blue on metal. That being said some of those robot codpieces are too much (Example)! I also insist on wired, I don't trust myself to care for a pet, let alone a computer mouse.
  
  I'm not brand loyal, but I was very unimpressed by Logitech and Corsair's headsets. From what I've seen from searching around, the Logitech G502 looks really good, and /r/pcmasterrace, at least a year ago, seemed impressed by it. I almost impulse bought the Corsair M65 but I really don't like that big red button where I'd rest my thumb.
  
  Anyway I'm rambling, I'm going to continue my search tomorrow but maybe you guys can give me somewhere to start. Hopefully this is enough info, thanks!

Hi /r/mousereview,

Just a quick update on the MM710 and its progress through production. Here's a quick rundown of the changes:

New Cable (gif, rubber on bottom, braided on middle, newest on top)
The MM710 now has a newer, better cable. It's much lighter and more flexible than the cables you've seen prior. It also smaller and more even, which makes it easier to put in a mouse bungee than other lightweight cables. This is about as close as you can get to a paracord mod before removing the EMI shielding completely (will fail certification otherwise).

New PTFE Feet (pic)
The current rendition of the MM710 now has pure PTFE feet, a change from the older black teflon feet. Not only are the new feet thiccer, they glide extremely well after a small break-in period.

New Side Buttons. (Old on left, new on right)
The previous MM710s you've seen had sharp side buttons shared with the CM110 mouse. The current model has smoother, rounder side buttons similar to the older MasterMouse S. This makes the mouse more comfortable to hold and press.

New Main Buttons (Old on left, new on right)
The first iteration of the mouse had holes going far up the main buttons. The newer version removes some of these holes. This does make the mouse a little bit heavier, but nicer to hold on to and click if your fingers are back there in claw or fingertip grip.

Structure Optimizations (Old on left, new on right)
On previous mockups, you can easily squeeze the side of the mouse and actuate the side mouse buttons. On the new mockup, it's much more difficult to actuate the side buttons this way (not impossible, but requires an unrealistic amount of force you won't see during regular mouse usage). We've also manage to save some weight by removing some of the rear structural supports at the very back of the mouse, but still retain strength at the rear. This also makes the mouse slightly less back-heavy.

Release Date, Preorders, Stock Availability
The release date has been moved back a week or two to September 24th. You will be able to pre-order the mouse on US Amazon here. Other regions coming up shortly (EU, Asia Pacific). Unfortunately, we're not freethinking and genius enough to make it a one-time run, so that means if the mouse is out of stock, it'll come back in stock and you'll actually get another chance to get one if you miss out. Oh nooo...

We're still improving the mouse as we go, so what you see is not final (but it's close). Feel free to ask any questions here! I'll be able to answer for a few hours.

Hello

I need to get a new mouse but I only have $30 USD but I don't know what to get these are the mice I have narrowed it down to M1, M2, M3, M4. The mice I have used in the past have been G502 (nice shape but too heavy) G203 (I liked the shape pretty well) Mionix Castor (My favorite mouse so far love the shape) MM531 (I hate this mouse it's too low and long) thanks for the help.

Games: Far Cry 5, Metro Exodus, DOS 2, Kenshi, CS:GO, Overwatch.

Hand Preference: Right-handed.

Hand Size: 17.78 x 8.89 cm

Grip: I hold my mouse exactly like this I have seen people call it palm/fingertip hybrid as well as relaxed claw so I don't know.

Weight: I don't really have a preference but nothing over 105 grams.

Sensitivity: Depends on what game I'm playing and what I'm doing but I usually use 1600.

Connectivity: Wired.

I'm thinking about getting a new mouse. I tried some out in store the other day, to discover they all feel more comfortable than the cheap thing I have right now. I don't quite know what it is that I want.

• Games: I don't have a primary atm, so a bit of everything. Though I rarely play fps games. [But I haven't tried Overwatch, and that might change my mind]. No MMO or MOBA. But I'll be using the mouse daily for everything, including general browsing and use while researching etc.
  
  
• Handed: Right. Though I do sometimes use my mouse in my left, so maybe ambidextrous. Not a requirement though, as I can happily use a right-handed w/ my left.
  
  
• Budget: Maximum at £50. But would prefer lower [since I don't need bells and whistles].
  
  
• Hand size: Average, ish. 17cm tip of the middle finger to the base of the hand. I think that's what you're asking for. 8cm sideways.
  
  
• Grip type: I tend to grip w/ my fingertips, and pivot on the 'ball' of my hand/ wrist. But I also change, and sometimes use others for a bit. edit: I think my grip type is heavily dependent on the mouse I'm holding. I tried a Mionix and it was comfortable.
  
  
• Weight: I don't know, I've never held a 'heavy' mouse before. So I'll just say average.
  
  Any other details:
  
  
• I generally would like to be able to adjust my mouses sensitivity on-mouse via buttons.
  
  
• I don't want any configuration via software i.e. plug and play. [as I use linux, and drivers are generally a bitch]
  
  
• No LEDS [or atleast disableable], and it can't look too gamery.
  
  
• Buttons near the thumb for browsing: back-up, go-forward type things.
  
  
• Preferably black or grey, but not required. Preferably non-obtuse logos, but not required.
  
  
• Since I don't play fps, I especially don't need a mouse that they tend to like, with really low sensitivity and sliding your hand all over the table to use. I don't have much desk space, and due to my fingertip-pivot-grip I need a sensitivity such that I can maneuver my cursor around my 24" monitor w/ ease.
  
  
• Wired
  
  
• Not a requirement, I don't know if such things exist, but - quiet? Do quiet mice exist?
  
  Since I don't know too much about mice, I'm quite open for suggestion, and I don't think I'm too picky and could have my mind changed if you recommend something. If there are any features [esp. ergonomic ones] you think would be useful to me, please tell me.
  
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  Also - What's with the mice with the free wheeling scrolls? Is there a list of mice that use this? What are the general uses for this? Looks quite fun though... So, if it's a choice that I can get w/o many sacrifices, I wouldn't say no.
  
  edit: I'll not have a look over logical increments if anything catches my eye. But I doubt it since I don't really know what I'm looking for. This Logitech G400s and Razer Deathadder are the kind of look I'm trying to avoid.

Keep in mind that most of these will have a generic stiff shit cable nor can I promise the shape will be for you.

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If you also plan on playing FPS with it:

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For 20 USD(!) back at 30 USD, the Havit HV-MS735 is a pretty good budget option. Has a 3360 sensor, 12 grid, side scroll, and is ~107 grams with the internal weight removed, which isn't too bad for a 12 grid mouse, not to mention it being at the current price that it is.

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At 30 USD, the updated Redragon M901 is the lightest 12 grid mouse available with a 3360. Has an additional button on the left side, and doesn't require any opening up to remove the weights. Weighs in at only 87 grams without weights.

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At 60 USD (50 refurbished), the Corsair Scimitar is a 12 grid mouse with a 336X variant. Has the gimmick with adjusting the 12 grid, which is actually not too bad because if a 12 grid doesn't sit exactly right, you either lose full functionality or comfort. Unfortunately weighs a buttload at ~120 grams, which is normally a deal breaker for some.

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Of course the Naga Trinity, which has the side panel gimmick. If the cable is like any recent Razer mouse, it'll have the best cable of the bunch by far. Also ~120 grams, so another monster in the weight class.

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If you don't care about having a good sensor:

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Logitech G600 at ~34 USD is an okay mouse. Logitech software is a lot better than Synapse and the crap the Chinese OEMs have. Has a pretty garbage sensor in it though, so FPS is going to be a no go.

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Honestly though, the HV-MS735 and M901 are good. Unless you insist on using a mainstream mouse or dislike Chinese OEM software, the Redragon M901 is amazing due its weight class and the HV-MS734 is a budget god at 20 USD is still really good at 30 USD if you want side scroll.

Looking for suggestions!

I currently have a Razer Deathadder 2013, and I like it alot. The problem is, its green, and everything else is blue. So I'm interested in the Proteus G502, although I'm not sure I need all the macros (the Deathadder's macros have been absolutely fine for me).

I'm glad to pay money to get the best product, but I was wondering, should I look into a G402? It's about $50 vs the G502 $70 (new). Is there a major difference between the two mice other than number of macros?

I generally like large mice, so it makes since that I've enjoyed the Deathadder's ergonomics. Should I just get a blue Deathadder like this? This is the model I have currently.

I'm welcome to any comments, thanks for reading.

NAGA EPIC USER HERE

I just dumped mine after the 3rd RMA. The original Nagas (2012) were amazing but the recent iterations have been pretty poor. Here are the options I found:

Corsair Scimitar Pro This is a smaller mouse than the naga, but provides the 12 button pad and has great software to boot

Logitech G600 This one is just a little too bulky for me, I have very small hands, but it is logitech. The dual dish feature is too weird for me.

Steelseries Rival 500 Not your standard layout, but a good sensor. Large mouse , very similar to the naga epic.

In the end, I went with the Rival 500, because I liked the features (programmable rumble support) and the Pixart 3360 Optical Sensor was a good choice. It is heavy, so not ideal for fps, but i use it anyways.

Also, there is always knockoff on amazon. My brother has this one and he loves it. Eh?

My hands are 18.3cm. I use a claw grip gaming and a fingertip/claw grip in Windows. I use the Mionix Castor on SteelSeries 9HD and really like it. I've tried a lot of mice. I don't own a Deathadder, so I don't know what kind of latency the left and right clicks have. The Mionix Castor has a couple extra ms in left/right click latency. I got used to it and don't really have an issue with it, but other people don't like it. If you think this is going to be an issue, I recommend checking out the Zowie EC2-A. I haven't tried this mouse, but I know the dimensions and shape are just about perfect for our hand size and claw grip usage. It doesn't have that rubber side grip like the deathadder or Castor, but you can use this grip tape on the sides. I put this tape on the Roccat Kone Pure, SteelSeries Sensei, and G303 when I was testing them. It works perfectly.

Looking for a comfortable ergonomic mouse.

Games:WoW/CSGO/Dota
Hand preference:right
budget:50-70$
Hand size:medium
Grip:whatever is most comfortable/ergonomic
weight:fairly light
Sensitivity 800-1200dpi
Connectivity:wired

My old mouse had these really easy to click right and left buttons:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Prime-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00OHJY7C2/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=g303+moba+mouse&qid=1567115856&s=gateway&sr=8-3


But I want those on a more ergonomic shape. My current g502 doesn't have the same easy to click buttons and its not as comfortable anyway. I used to really love the shape of my ec1 zowies,but want those easy click buttons.

You guys could check out a awesome gaming mouse at https://www.amazon.com/YCCTEAM-Buttons-Professional-Ergonomic-Aluminium/dp/B00SB5NLZW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1467957145&sr=8-2&keywords=YCCTEAM+GAME+MOUSE perfectly snugly fit under your palm; the ergonomic shape of the mouse gives gamers the most comfortable gaming experience ever, especially during the most testing of battles,if you are good at reviewing on the sub forum of reddit or YouTube or other influenced PC accessories forum,
I would like to ship you for free.

You guys could check out a awesome gaming mouse at https://www.amazon.com/YCCTEAM-Buttons-Professional-Ergonomic-Aluminium/dp/B00SB5NLZW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1467957145&sr=8-2&keywords=YCCTEAM+GAME+MOUSE perfectly snugly fit under your palm; the ergonomic shape of the mouse gives gamers the most comfortable gaming experience ever, especially during the most testing of battles,if you are good at reviewing on the sub forum of reddit or YouTube or other influenced PC accessories forum,I would like to ship you for free.

Seconding Logitech G600 right here, it's going to be your best bet and it fits under your budget. If LEDs are out of the question, you can turn them off like /u/Dreyka1 said.

Remember that once you're done with the customisation and you need to get rid of software for whatever reason, you're free to uninstall it because mouse will remember your configuration and will behave the same everytime you plug/unplug it to yours or any other PC, free of hassle.

It also comes with two different colors, black and white, so you can get one that suits your liking... or your boss's caprice. Anyway, have a look.

Logitech overall guarantees best build quality and the mice will last for years, I'd say that would be best long-term investment.

G403. It’s the one I have, and it’s treated me well. It’s on sale right now for a a couple dollars over your price range. Definitely worth it. Includes side buttons and programmable DPI. Pretty minimal RGB too. Some people don’t like the hump on this mouse so look up a video to see if it would be something you would like. RocketJumpNinja does great reviews on youtube. Best bang for your buck imo.

Amazon G403

Games: CSGO, Overwatch (Primarily Overwatch)

Hand Preference: Right

Budget:: $30-45 CAD

Hand Size: Big, IDK i'll come back to this when I get home

Grip: Palm

Weignt: No preference

Sensitivity: Low in games, high otherwise

Additional details: I'd like for it to have some extra buttons on the sides, and either a DPI changing button, or an easy to use software to change my DPI

Currently looking at the Razer Deathadder Chroma (On sale) and the Steelseries Rival 100 (Also on sale, but it's been at this price for ages) I have a friend willing to sell me a Rival 300 for $50 CAD, but idk if that's worth it. Currently using this piece of shit. I don't have a mousepad and I am looking to buy one so if you can find a good mouse for under my budget let me know please. Thanks in advance.

No problem.

The wire on the g403 seems to be a braided cable so it’s not good news. However there have been instances of batches of G502 mice have bad cables, so it may just be your model, but there’s no way to be sure.

However like I said before there are many Logitech mice with the exact same shape. So you can go wireless if you’d like with the g603/g703. From what your issue I’d say you could remedy the cable drag with a mouse bungee or some cable clips.

There's a ton of companies who sell mouse bungees and usually they're pretty good. Though I'd recommend you check out reviews first since some are too lightweight or gimmicky. I personally use the Zowie camade if you got questions.

Alternatives :
I've seen people use clips like this in place of a mouse bungee: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Clips-Management-Nightstand-Accessories/dp/B00NVKHLP8

Or you can just get a generic brandless bungee which people have said are fine : https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Mouse-Bungee-Management-Holder/dp/B01ASXL0PW

If you don't want a mouse bungee to be to big or noticeable you could also use something like this : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G1WD13M

Mionix Naos 7000. Great mouse, used it for years.

https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY

PMW-3310 sensor so almost the best sensor out there, it's a little heavier than the super gamer light mice at 147g (that's still fairly light overall and is just the weight including the cable, which the g303 you ahve is 137g with cable) but it has the ergonomic shape you are looking for and the rubber surface is great in keeping you from sweating and giving you better grip for lifts.

if you don't mind a wired mouse the I-rocks m36 pro has a great shape one of the best Ive ever tried and my hands are smaller then you it has optical switches, split clicks, and EC2-B/G403 similar shape

Dimensions: L 119 mm X W 64.0 mm X H 41.5 mm

• if you want to buy
  
• info on i-rocks m36
  
  the Logitech G303 might also be up your ally its amazing for relaxed claw(palm/claw) I would get the g302 on amazon to try out the shape and if you like it then get the g303 on ebay or the /r/MouseMarket.
  
  Dimensions: L 115 X W 65 X H37mm
  
  
• link to buy G302

I actually don't even like a lot of the "flashy 'gamer' aesthetics". This mouse suggested by u/Sturmgeshootz is a high possibility now, but since I am upping my price range anyway do you know of a good mouse with even more than 2 extra buttons in the $30 range? I'm perfectly happy with two side buttons, but more can always be a help in some games

Games: League of Legends, Not FPS games

Hand Preference: Right or Ambi

Budget: Thinking the most expensive I would go is a deathadder

Hand Size: 18

Grip: Palm

Weight: No Preference

Sensitivity: High

Additional Details: Kinda narrowed it down to the nixeus revel or a deathadder just based on a little research and I would like to know what you guys think.

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Mouse-Windows/dp/B01HHGHCH8

I am leaning towards the deathadder just due the popularity of it, so it's obviously tried and true. I would like to know what you guys think in respect to is it worth the cost. I also don't know what the difference is between these two deathadders, if someone could clarify that would be great. Are there different types like non chroma and chroma?

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Elite-Multi-Color-Comfortable/dp/B01LXC1QL0/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1501878159&sr=1-4&keywords=razer+deathadder

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Chroma-Multi-Color-Comfortable/dp/B00MYTSDU4/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1501878159&sr=1-3&keywords=razer+deathadder

You might check out the G303...https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1465548442&sr=1-1&keywords=Logitech+G303



If you're looking for something that's 20 bucks you can find the g100s easily on amazon for 20 dollars or less what we recommend is buying them on amazon then returning them(a few days is usually enough time to figure out if long term usage will give you cramps) and trying another mouse if you're in the United States, Best Buy sometimes has a selection of gaming mice that you can put your hand around.


https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G100s-Optical-Gaming-package/dp/B00SH30V6A?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0


Sadly, we can't match your usage exactly, reviews and advice are approximations of what /r/mousereview does. You'll have to do some experimentation and figure out what gripstyle you use and how big your hands are.


/u/rocketjumpninja might be able to help you out in the OEM mice department better than any of us.

Thing | DM1 Pro S | Nixeus Revel
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Sensor | Pixart 3360 (or 3310 on the dm1 pro) | Pixart 3360
Shape | Mostly identical to Sensei | Slightly lower profile hump compared to Sensei
Buttons | Omron 20M | Omron 20M
Weight | 85 grams | 84 grams (or +15 grams if you buy from their site and choose the extra weight)
Skates | Thickness is unknown to me, but it's the same shape of the Sensei's (+ you get spares) | Thickness is also unknown here, but the Sensei skates won't fit (revel's feet are smaller)
Cable | Red/black braided | Black rubber
Software/Drivers | Driverless | Has some beta software out
Shells | Can be matte (black) or glossy (black) | Can be matte (black) or glossy (white)
Prices | 50$ USD (+some shipping) @ dreammachines.io | 40$ USD (free prime shipping woo) @ Amazon

Alright, here are some things you might want to address if you decide to buy one of these:
Main Clicks
Mouse1 and Mouse2 on the DM1 Pro S are known to have quality control issues in regards to the shell, which causes one or both switches to be stiffer/have more "squish" and travel than the other. For me, I got mine with the Mouse1 squishy. You're prompted with two decisions: RMA it (shipping fee is not paid for unfortunately) or open it up and do a fix on it (xtenglong of Overclock.net's fix, works on DM1 Pro S as well). The fix worked alright for me, but I ended up having to use the spare feet. The Nixeus Revel is also known to have these issues, but on a much smaller scale
tl;dr nixeus revel > dm1 pro s for button tolerance quality control
Side Buttons
Buttons for both mice are only on the left side, making it a right hander's mouse. DM1 Pro S' buttons are bigger and are glossy, while the Nixeus Revel has thinner buttons that are probably textured/smooth plastic. The Revel has it's buttons closer to the back of the mouse as well. Travel on DM1 Pro S for it is larger than expected, but not unbearable. Cannot say anything for the Revel since I don't have one.
Cable Strain Relief
DM1 Pro S has an issue that has the cable dipping down from the cable's strain relief. Nixeus Revel users are probably less prone to this (lighter cable + the rubber nib is a bit pushed up so it doesn't go directly down). Fixed my personal DM1 Pro S' strain relief by cutting part of it away.
LED
DM1 Pro S has a visible led inside, while powered. Everything is lit up, but there is a distinctly more bright source. Nixeus Revel gets away with this by having a smaller, but a more even illumination of the logo (and a thinner strip of light at the bottom). Might be wrong about the Revel, but the DM1 Pro S' led is visible.
overall tl;dr:
you're probably safer with the nixeus revel, but if you're willing to take a small gamble/deal with some minor issues, the dm1 pro s has a "truer" shape to the sensei

If you can save up a little more money for your mouse budget. Amazon has the wireless Logitech G403 on sale for around $58 USD: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Prodigy-Gaming-Performance-Sensor/dp/B01KUAMCV4


I own the wired version, and can't be happier with it. It's a deceptively large mouse, so a palm grip will feel right at home with this mouse. Many people compare it as a compact Deathadder. And I tend to agree, that they share many similarities.

The wireless version is among one of the best, lowest latency wireless mice available on the market. It has the same performance as the excellent G900.

Anyhow, I wish you luck!

That's a sweetspot pricepoint for LOTS of great mice. All have the latest and greatest sensors, just pick one you think would fit your hand and grip best (in no particular order):

• Razer Deathadder Chroma - $60
  
  
• Steelseries Rival - $55
  
  
• Corsair M45 - $55
  
  
• ROCCAT KONE Pure Military - $50
  
  
• Zowie FK1 - $60
  
  
• Zowie EC1-A - $60
  
  If you're willing to go a bit higher, look at these as well:
  
  
• Logitech G502 - $70
  
  
• Mionix Naos 7000 - $65
  
  

You definitely don't want the Razer. Especially after you read the reviews. You should also consider the Logitech G602.

The 602 is more comfortable for me as I can't stand the ring finger rest on MMO mice. The 602 can also use 1 or 2 AA batteries for weight purposes which lasts for months. Further, the 602 has several extra buttons up top, one of which can be used as a shift button to turn those 6 side buttons into 12.

The 600 has a shift button on the ring finger rest which can turn the 12 side buttons into 24 if you need that many. Also, alot of people have said that the mouse wheel fails too soon in the 600. There are better alternatives:

The top-rated UtechSmart Venus: https://www.amazon.com/Gaming-Mouse-UtechSmart-Venus-Precision/dp/B00FNKMVUO

The Redragon Perdition: https://www.amazon.com/Perdition-Redragon-High-Precision-Computer-Programmable/dp/B00GU8W5AE

The Havit MMO mouse: https://www.amazon.com/HV-MS735-12000DPI-Programmable-Optical-PMW3360/dp/B01DW2VQ5A

Those are some more options besides the G600. Redragon has excellent reviews. All the mice I've listed above have excellent reviews. All you have to do is choose. :)

Games: FPS

Hand Preference: Right

Budget: Any

Hand Size: 18cm long by 9cm wide

Grip: Claw

Weight: Light

Sensitivity: Low

Additional Details: I am specifically looking for something to replace my favorite mice of all time, the Logitech LX3 and LX7. Both of them have the same shape, but the LX7 is wireless. Neither have been produced in about ten years, and I can't seem to find anything with a comparable shape. They have a distinctive "hourglass" shape with a deep "ledge" on the bottom, so I can easily pick up the mouse with just three fingers. I have never used another mouse as comfortable as this. I've tried a number of other mice that don't do it for me, including the [Logitech G502](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019OB663A/), G300s, and M510.

I mostly play FPS games, and I'm simply looking for a modern mouse with a similar shape. Until I do find one I may have to keep finding used LX3's on ebay. I'm hoping someone else has found something like it.

Honestly the shape of the GPW wasn't the best for me. I really like right hand sided ergonomic mice rather than ambidextrous ones. Is there not a wireless equivalent to the EC2-A? Just ordered some of this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ATH0KEA/
Is that good for mice? Thanks for your help

games: none - mainly for web browsing

hand preference: right

budget: $40usd

hand size: 18cm

grip: palm? anything else tires out my wrist for some reason - is that weird?

weight: medium to heavy

sensitivity: low

additional details: i really like my m510 wireless, so i'd prefer something that size, but wired. not a fan of the transformers look a lot of new "gaming" mice have - the simpler the design the better, but would prefer the forward and back buttons on the side. also, i just got an rgb mechanical keyboard, so an rgb mouse is required.

looking forward to some recommendations - thanks r/mousereview!

*edit: ended up ordering the nixeus revel from amazon. thanks guys!

Just checked the internals; the mod is certainly feasible. Imgur album with extra info for anyone interested.

I'll be using this grip tape from amazon, unless anyone has better suggestions.

The Scimitar really does feel amazing though. I'm also looking forward to it being slightly thinner to grip and even slightly lighter in addition to the extra sense of security of having a sturdy side grip to press on.

Finding a mouse at that price point with a flawless sensor is kind of tricky. The EVGA x3 or x5 is very competitively priced at this moment, but it is a little smaller and more shaped like an abyssus. The Havit 1200 has a "flawless" sensor, but I have not used this exact model so I can't speak of the sensor implementation and build quality, and the same can be said of the Talentech Shadow2 & GranVela M639. But, in all honesty those are chinese OEM mice so they might not be worthwhile. My vote is the Evga x3 or the x5, the size isn't that bad just be sure to not accidentally purchase the L (laser) options.


So to answer your question, I don't see any decent mice with that exact shape for that price. Ergonomics, "Flawless" Sensor, Under $30; choose two.


That being said I've seen the deathadder on sale for a little over $30 recently. Even a newegg retailer has one currently listed at $40, Amazon has one for $45, and I've seen them on sale at my local walmart & local Target for around $35.

The Fenek standard has a similar shape/config with the addition of thumb buttons and a sniper button. It is a bit pricey relative to similar mice, but it is in the neighborhood for what you seem to be after and it's a small company that I think more folks should know about.

https://www.amazon.com/Standard-Gaming-PC-Mac-Linux-Unix/dp/B0776J7H5P/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1520572308&sr=1-1&keywords=Fenek+Standard

The first mouse that came to mind is the Nixeus Revel. It is a proper jump to the modern with a perfect sensor, safe shape and a very nice price tag for what you get.

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Windows-Rubberized/dp/B01HHGHCH8

I have this mouse and I really really love it. Not sure why it has bad reviews. If I remember right it was like $15-20 dollars> It's a workhorse. I keep all the weights in as I love a heavy mouse.

I just ordered the amazon basics mouse. Its actually pretty close to size and layout. the thumb buttons aren't really the same at all. They are located in the same spot but hey are much lower profile.

Here is the new Anker. And here is the amazon mouse.

Last night I ordered a G303 Prodigy as they are only $30 right now. It'll be the only mouse I've ever owned that is supposed to be good. So we will see.

Nice to see someone who has even heard of that anker mouse!

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EDIT: It actually cost me 39.99 (the anker)

Will the Master Mouse L, MM520 and MM530 receive the same treatment? Would love to see someone implement this approach with large and/or ergo mice. Also have you considered ceramic feet like Lexip Mo42 or Metal feet like Hori Edge 101 or the Bloody Gaming Mice series. They don't wear and maintain their glide mutch better over time.

Cooler Master SGM-4006-KFOA1 MasterMouse Pro L Gaming Mouse with Customizable Top Covers and RGB for Multiple Lighting Effects https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KHFB2AY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fim7Cb07KCE1X

Ceramic mouse pads Mo42 Lexip - Compatible laser and optical mouse https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MW5XJ8G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_wkm7Cb11QQ4GF

Video showing various types of feet metal, ceramic, ptfe, stock
https://youtu.be/z9SZU505yfQ

Games: Fortnite (mostly), PUBG, Overwatch

Hand Preference: Right

Budget: Preferably not more than $50

Hand Size: 17.5 by 9.5

Grip: Slightly less extreme claw

Weight: No preference I guess

Sensitivity: Medium - High

Additional Details: I've been looking at the Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum mostly and wanted to know if my hand and grip style would fit. I would appreciate any other suggestions as well. Thanks :)

I play lots of games, but BF3 is the only one that requires most from my mouse/ keyboard. The one you linked sounds great, but the price goes way higher than I thought it would be and I prefer how deathhader/ other mice looks. I have some razer stuff and didn't get any problem at all, they work great. Guess Ill stick with deathhader, but now my problem is there are so many lol. Is there any big difference from Chroma to Default one aside from multi color leds? If chroma works better I may get it, but probaly won't use the "chroma".

g-wolves g302 gaming mouse https://shop.x-raypad.com/product/g-wolves-g302-gaming-mouse-pink-limited-edition/ . glorious model 0 https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/glorious-model-o-black coolermaster mm710 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T4VW9WP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or g-wolves skoll gaming mouse https://shop.x-raypad.com/product/g-wolves-skoll-gaming-mouse-rgb-lighting/?attribute_pa_color=black hope you like them i sure do

whats your price range? Your honestly not going to get anything worth buying under like 40$. https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Essentials-Ergonomic-Comfortable/dp/B00AAS888S/ref=sr_1_13?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1474111798&sr=1-13&keywords=gaming+mice

razer deathadder is probably your best bet, cheap and its one of the most widely used mice so you really cant go wrong

Also, dont buy from the amazon link you have provided, it's a older version. Here's the link - http://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Chroma-Multi-Color-Ergonomic/dp/B00MYTSDU4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462849758&sr=8-1&keywords=razer+deathadder

Would recommend best buy, you can also try the shape in best buy stores.

Mionix NAOS 7000 would be a great choice if you like large mice.

http://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY

Absolutely love mine, so comfy. Biggest mouse ever.

I just ordered myself a G502. My G9x is -still- working however.

It's on sale for 60$ on Amazon right now.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019OB663A/ref=pd_luc_rh_wl_01_02_t_img_lh?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

My G9x still works good, earlier this year I replaced the feet...but I bought this one in 2009 and wanted to try something "new", this was a good price, and I got 10$ due to Prime Day Promotion, so 50$.

I ended up buying it after watching Linus's video on it, and said he was thinking of replacing HIS G9x with it, though it's not marketed as a G9x successor, he felt it was, and googling shows many do.

It's not good for the Claw Grip(FPS), but I'm willing to give it a shot myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl25wpMoEtY

Though I have heard alot of people saying the M45 by Corsair is like the G9x.

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Raptor-M45-5000-Optical-Sensor/dp/B00IDWFN4U

Certainly similar.

I dunno, I like Logitech though, and every review claims the Logitech G502 has an INCREDIBLE Optical sensor, the best in the HISTORY of Mice, not just marketing speak, but people doing workroom tests say this mouse has NO Acceleration, no dead zone, and handles lift-off better than any they've even seen. So I am willing to give it a shot for sure.

I got a G700s a few years ago from Logitech as a replacement for a G9x that was having issues. It was big and felt nice, but the cord was stuff and hard to manage, even with buying custom ones, and in the end I went back to my G9x after a few months. So basically I've been using a G9x as my mouse since 2009. I think...it's time for something new.

Hell, I saw even used G9x sell on eBay for 70$! And I have mine replaced with new feet and all the accessories, so if I end up liking the G502...I might go that route...though parting with my G9x...I don't know.

Is it this one? As it's little more than my budget.. i can still get it ! But is it good?

Nixeus REVEL Gaming Mouse - PixArt PMW 3360 Sensor with 8 Preset DPI Light-weight and Superior Tracking for Win Mac - White Black https://www.amazon.in/dp/B01HHGHCH8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_FRe-ybWPNF4MQ

You might want to look into the Logitech G303. It fits into your budget, it's a good "small hand" mouse, clicks are really nice, performs really well, and Logitech are known for making workhorse mice.

Since, you said you liked larger mice, I would recommend the Razer Deathadder. And no, not because its Razer, simply because its HUGE! Like I mean, its giant. At least to me. I have small hands. If it helps any my hands can't even touch the ends and i have 15-16 cm hands.

>If you don't want to spend so much on the g900 and want to get the same performance I'd recommend getting a g502 or a G pro

I second this. The price is a bit much for the G900 when there are still much cheaper alternatives.

If you're interested, I've done an in-depth review on the G502. Keep in mind I have affiliate links in here.

Here's a non-affiliate link for the G502 if that makes you uncomfortable.

>I kinda wish they would make a g502 lightweight version.

That would be awesome. I used the g502 before. It's awesome but I personally like using a lighter mouse for FPS games since I pick my mouse up a lot.

Can't consider it a downside since I knew what I was getting into, but the g502 felt too cumbersome for me.

https://www.amazon.com/HIRALIY-Backlit-Programmable-Buttons-Optical/dp/B01M22T6XE

Im pretty sure this suits all your needs. Its by no means a name brand, but the reviews on it are actually pretty good. Hardware Canucks even made a video on it.

UPDATE: I ordered this mouse bungee for 8 bucks and it works great for holding the G Pro cable! Thanks for the advice :)

Check out the Mionix Naos 7000. I use this for my daily driver at work due to it's incredible ergonomics and feel. It has the shape you're looking for without being too heavy, along with the 3310 sensor and awesome software - which is also great. Sells on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY

As a Zowie fan boy one thing I admit is their Mouse Bungee is too expensive, in fact I believe Mouse Bungees in general are over priced. However this is one that's cheap and very reliable. All types of cable sizes fit in it. Here is the link, I own two of these and they are great.
https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Mouse-Bungee-Management-Holder/dp/B01ASXL0PW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1504415487&sr=8-3&keywords=mouse+bungee

i actually think the g502 spectrum is better and many people will agree.
link to the mouse
(considred one of the best ever)
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Proteus-Spectrum-Tunable-Gaming/dp/B019OB663A/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1500230464&sr=1-1&keywords=g502

I share a link earlier. It works good.
GT-5000 (3 strips) Grip Tape for cell phones, cameras

Added: I try many things before, picture below was Sugru with some handmade texture. But they feel like not rubber enough to get a good grip Imgur

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The closest thing I can think of is the Corsair M95 that has 9 side buttons (an A9800 sensor), an identical looking Corsair M90, and I'm pretty sure you know about the G600. The Corsair mice here don't look exactly like your Naga numpad though. If you don't mind a wireless heavy mouse the G602 is the closest thing I can think of that has a lot of buttons on the side that's within the list of "accepted" mouse sensors in case you actually care about that.

Disregard the above if you're not looking for mouse button's galore. It slipped my mind that you were looking for a vertical ergonomic mouse rather than an ergonomic mouse with a naga style numpad. If we're getting into that territory I suppose a drawing tablet would also work out but I wouldn't be so sure if that's a better path due to posture issues and repetitive motion risk possible from that (edit: and the lack of buttons as far as I'm aware of). Upon searching on my own though (and I bet you have already) the most mouse buttons I can find at all would be a bare bones vertical mouse that has a DPI switch. I can't find any information if that can be rebinded to another function though.

Regarding your wrist/arm issues though you probably should talk to a doctor. There are ways to see first of all if there is a problem and where it is (nerve conduction test aka EMG). Personally when I had a struggle with a different arm/wrist issue that wasn't carpal tunnel syndrome that actually affected my hand's ability to function by quite a bit, the most helpful thing by far for me was spending some time, effort, and money in actually fixing my computer station. In my case at least it all had to do with the chair and once I was able to find a chair that worked and what was wrong with the old set up my arm/wrist issues gradually disappeared and most importantly the numbness disappeared, strength returned to my fingers, the pain (which wasn't really the main issue) disappeared completely, and some flexibility returned to my hand. I'm not exactly "cured," but at least I can properly move my fingers again.

The problem with my computer set up was that arms of my chair were were too high, they were too far away from my body, and were too long so they got in the way of using the computer properly. In other the words the chair was way too large for me. If you have a chair that has arms, my best suggestion is that you evaluate your chair especially. Your problem probably isn't mine at all, but honestly out of everything I was told to do by doctors, changing my computer chair was quite literally 97% of what fixed my problems. If you care even just a little bit I can tell you what guidelines used to fix my computer setup and most importantly pick the correct chair.

Regardless you should still see a doctor if you're really suffering. I got pretty lucky that the only things I needed were independent of medicine or surgery but you might not be.

Build quality wise, its okay. Its made of a rough ABS plastic that feels like sand paper, it feels "gritty."

Sensor wise, all these mice suck. They all use laser sensors which have various issues such as not being able to track small movements and horrible lift off distance. The Naga Trinity has a top optical sensor but the Trinity will set you back around $100.

I would recommend the Havit MMO Mouse https://www.amazon.com/HV-MS735-12000DPI-Programmable-Optical-PMW3360/dp/B01DW2VQ5A/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1526089127&sr=8-3&keywords=Havit+MMO+mouse

or the Corsair Scimitar https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-SCIMITAR-Pro-RGB-Programmable/dp/B01MU3DZ2V/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526089118&sr=8-1&keywords=corsair+scimitar

Both have top optical sensors based on the Pixart 3360, a Logitech G502 class sensor.

Buy this if you have amazon prime or buy this both have top of the line sensors that will be sufficient for minecraft, if you're looking for comfort, go for the g403, however if you want to save a little bit more money, buy the g203

if you really don't want to go over $35 then definitely take the g302, if you can sped a few more you could go for the g303, which is $40 and has the same shape as the g302 but better sensor. some people also have problems with the g302 "wobbling" because it has no mouse feet on the sides of the mouse
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TKFD51M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484610023&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=logitech+g303&dpPl=1&dpID=314UDpL3BCL&ref=plSrch
you could also look at the logitech g203, also$40 it has a rounder shape than the g302 and is probably a safer choice than the g302 unless you know you are comfortable with the shape.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M26YUKO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484610539&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=logitech+g203&dpPl=1&dpID=319KAiGobEL&ref=plSrch

Im not sure how much this would be for you but look up the Hiraliy F300. I have been using for nearly 8 months without issues. It has software too, and you're able to change the polling rate, and have different profiles etc. Sensor is very nice for the price point. It was $19.99 for me. Here is the link to it so you can see the good reviews and pictures etc.

Just making a parent comment so you get this in your inbox. I fully agree with /u/twentyCA and if you're interested in the Revel Fit, here's a direct link on amazon for the US https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Mouse-Rubberized/dp/B07HJTYL1V/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539017891&sr=8-1&keywords=revel+fit

G600 is going for $25 on Amazon right now

Compared to this generic mouse for $33 which would be better?

I'd like to keep the 1-2 month shipping time for the G600 in mind as well.

Not sure about the two you listed, but claw with RGB and a hella good sensor sounds like the Logitech G303

https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M

Kinda expensive though.

I got a 8 dollar mouse bungee from Amazon that does the trick. The cords from my Logitech mice fit perfectly in it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ASXL0PW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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the top sensor is the PMW3360 and its variants (3361 / owl-eye / 3366 / 3389 / truemove3, etc)

If you want an MMO layout, you could take a look at:

• the new razer naga
  
• the haavit HV-MS735 which is really really cheap
  
• the rival 500 interesting layout
  
• the corsair scimitar pro rgb
  
• the roccat leadr if you want wireless and also want to stay with roccat, it also has an interesting layout
  
  

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1521917080&sr=8-2&keywords=g403+wired

The G403 Wired is currently 46.76 on Amazon, I suggest buying it. I've previously used the mouse for 3 months before switching to something smaller (smaller hand), but the shape, sensor, and weight were great.

Hmm, these days, most non-gaming mice have been going wireless, so cheaper wired mce are hard to find, especially one with extra buttons. The Microsoft Comfort mouse is really one of the few choices that are affordable.

The Logitech M500 is one of the closest to your criteria, though it does not have a perfectly symmetrical shape, and is catered to right-handed users.

There are many wireless choices out there that you could easily find, and I reccommend getting those if you really do not want Microsoft Comfort Mice.

However, if you're really looking for high-quality mice under $40, you'll have to go gaming-grade. The Logitech G300S is about $30, and is truly ambidextrous. However, the button placement could be found uncomfortable for some people. Also has way more buttons than what you want.

The other gaming-grade choice is the G302, which has buttons on the right, despite being symmetrical.

EDIT: Found THIS and THIS. I wouldn't put too much trust in these though, you never know if they may have build quality issues.

Awesome! Just to be sure, these are the mouse feet you used?

https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-mouse-pads-Lexip-PC-Mac/dp/B07MW5XJ8G

Sure! I sweat a lot as well, this tape is some pistol grip tape. I tried artisan tape, but it became really moist and clammy after heavy use GT-5000 (3 strips) Grip Tape for... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ATH0KEA?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
No residue! its great

What grip do you use? Im concerned about the height of the Revel since I'd not want to rest my palm on it. Also I guess I would get the rubberized version because I get sweaty hands when I play and that version is almost 50€ with delivery fees Nixeus Revel :S Not sure if that would be my best bet in that price range

No comment on any of the 3 as I haven't owned any of them, and can find very little information on them. In the same price range the G102/G203 depending on region is a solid buy, and for $10 more than the A90 you can get yourself into a G305 which is the wireless brother of the G102/G203/GPro. You can also look into the 403 wired if you would rather have an ergo mouse.

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https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=logitech+g+mouse&qid=1557878272&s=gateway&sr=8-3

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https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=logitech+g+mouse&qid=1557878272&s=gateway&sr=8-6

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Both of the above are tried and true price to performance powerhouses.

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and the G305 below is likely one of the top 3 recommended mice on this sub reddit.

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https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-LIGHTSPEED-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B07CMS5Q6P/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=logitech+g+mouse&qid=1557878403&s=gateway&sr=8-5

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TL;DR

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If budget is the main issue buy the 102/203 it wont let you down and is priced similar or lower to the ones you mentioned, if it isn't then I would look at better options than the 3 you mentioned and would still keep the little logitech in mind.

Thanks for the heads up!

FYI it's also $50 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-Prodigy-Gaming-Performance-Sensor/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496265631&sr=8-1&keywords=g403

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Mouse-Rubberized-Black/dp/B07HJTYL1V

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This is an amazon link, it all depends on where the nearest amazon center is though for shipping. If you live in like Hawaii its going to take a longer shipping time than somewhere like Illinois. Have you tried Newegg or even Ebay?

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Mouse-Windows/dp/B01HHGHCH8

This one's pretty good!

How about this one https://www.amazon.com/YCCTEAM-Buttons-Professional-Ergonomic-Aluminium-Pc/dp/B00SB5NLZW/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1469069590&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=yccteam highly praised and being sold by well known Amazon yccteam seller

I didn't get the term 'eSports' at first, turns out it's what being marketed even on Amazon.

There are several iterations of Deathadder. They are usually classified as (old) Deathadder 3 & 3.5G, Deathadder 2013/4G, Deathadder chroma and Deathadder Elite.

 

The eSports essential DA looks like the DA 2013 since both are advertised as having a 6400 dpi 4G sensor as known as PMW 3988. The Esports DA should be the Deathadder Elite. It has the PMW 3389, which is a variant of the most recent optical sensor, the PMW 3360. Razer also added a pair of CPI buttons on the top of the shell. Some reported that the coating was also improved on the DA Elite.

For your information, the DA Chroma has the PMW3989 sensor which is also very much enough for intense gaming.

 

The biggest drawback of the DA Elite in comparison to its former iterations is the lack of adequate onboard memory. You can't store personal cpi settings on it while it's viable on both the DA Chroma and DA 2013. That said, your settings are only tuned and saved through Razer Synapse, a software that is kind of notorious for buggy. You also have to keep it running all the time.

I didn't have any bad experience with both their hardware and software though.

G203 is $24 on Amazon right now. Great deal.

Also, the G302 is available for $17.

Is this price legit? Or is it like a weird amazon glitch or 3rd Party scammer?
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Logitech+G303&qid=1558804111&s=electronics&sr=1-2

Never Sharkoon. The Logitech is good, though.

G402 seems to be just a couple dollars over $35, which would be even better:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Hyperion-Gaming-Fusion-910-004069/dp/B00LZVNWIA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1484600942&sr=8-7&keywords=logitech+g100

Can also get G303 (better version of the G302) for $40ish:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1484601088&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g303

302 for 25$. Really good mouse, not really palm grip but better than anything in the price range... 20 is too little. Newegg has refurbished mice for that much, can get a roccat or razer abyssus refurb...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OHJY7C2/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1473049718&sr=1-5&refinements=p_36%3A515384011%2Cp_89%3ASteelSeries%7CRazer%7CLogitech%7CCorsair&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Gaming+mouse&dpPl=1&dpID=41wbDth2usL&ref=plSrch

Yeah, pretty much the only thing you'll be using there is the DPI settings, LED settings, and the profile settings. There's also the surface calibration settings. I've used it and it doesn't really help; I've read that it just adjusts the lift-off distance. I think the price for the DeathAdder has dropped, which may help.

Edit: I saw your comment stating your budget. The price for the DeathAdder has went down to $52.

p.s. I feel like a broken tape recorder saying "DeathAdder" so many times.

If you want a good and cheap mouse.

I recommend this Logitech G203

https://www.amazon.com/G203-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511759267&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g+203

Another good mouse cheap but ergonomic is this but maybe BIG for you. Is a large mouse

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511759224&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g403

So my recommendations G203, Mx anywhere 2s, G403 is the big is not a problem or MAYBE cougar minos x5

Ceramic mouse feet that don't wear down. Really slippery and nice stopping power. If you want most consistent mouse feet, these are them.

Downsides are that they wear down the mouse pad more than regular ones and that they are 20e + shipping. Hardpads like helios won't wear down. Edit also they are much thicker than orginal ones 1.2mm, so you might want to check if you can even use them

https://store.lexip.co or amazon

Nixeus Revel - it has the PMW3360, one of the best optical sensors that many competing mice sport at much higher prices. Can't go wrong with this one.

This is the mouse I'm currently using, it's just a random mouse I found on amazon a couple years ago. I'm not super knowledgeable on mice so I dunno what fits are better haha

Any links for NA?

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-REVEL-Gaming-Mouse-Rubberized-PC/dp/B07HJTYL1V/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1538089282&sr=8-2&keywords=Revel+Fit&dpID=31eGLQnqjaL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Takes like 2 weeks to ship... Nice.

for mmos it is better to go with something like this naga, g600, scimitar.

they have a lot of buttons on the side so you can have all the mmo abilities at your thumb disposal (from those three Naga is the smallest).

the g303 is a fps mouse designed more for precision



cons ( these are depending on your luck)

g 303 may have a [rattle sensor] (https://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-G-Mice/G303-rattle-lens-issue/td-p/1428060) i have one and it does have a rattle problem

naga
razer products depend on your luck. i had 2 nagas. the first one i kept for 4 years with no problems at all until i step on it and the second one lasted for 6 months and i send it back. double clicking problems on lmb and the wheel started to fall apart.

g600 is really big. it is very well build and looks like it's gonna last (i have it for 6 month now?! i dont remember) but it is solid. also a bit heavy.

i dont know anything about corsair mice in general

This one? https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Mouse-Bungee-Management-Holder/dp/B01ASXL0PW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1502870236&sr=8-4&keywords=mouse+bungee . I am also using this combination right now and it works perfectly.

Logitech G403 is now $35 bucks on amazon. Doesn't meet the weight requirement but it is a good mouse. https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=g403&qid=1563434274&s=electronics&sr=1-2

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-REVEL-Gaming-Mouse-Light-weight/dp/B01HHGHCH8

pair it with something like a Logitech G640 or QCK+ and you should be good to go

Or a Hiraliy F300, a good Chinese 3325-variant with the exact same shape that’s recommended within that same post. It’s currently going for $18 on Amazon.

Probably something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/TENMOS-Ergonomic-Adjustable-Breathing-Compatible/dp/B07F2WVJVT

Or this (a shame it isn't quiet):
https://www.amazon.com/UtechSmart-Venus-16400-Precision-Gaming/dp/B00FNKMVUO

The thing is I don't know much about mice and it's brands, so maybe 2 that look similar to me it's really one worse than the other and paying 90% brand name, or one being more prone to malfunctions (kofkof* Razer).

I can bump the price if it's justified and I know the mouse is gonna last, I mean, the Naga cost me I think something like 80$ back when I bought it, but considering how it ended up, maybe I paid more than I should have, though a 175 dollars one would have to scratch my back and make me smoothies, lol.
But idk, maybe that's the standard pricing.

https://www.amazon.com/GT-5000-strips-phones-cameras-knives/dp/B00ATH0KEA

I use this one my ec2a and it works like a charm

Generic Mouse Bungee Mouse Cord Management Fixer Holder (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ASXL0PW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_I32gDb7PC5N23

Springs I used in the glorious bungee

The Logitech G303 is great and is only $31 dollars. Link is below.

Logitech G303 - Amazon

I really enjoy this mouse, and bought it for the same purpose as you. It's on sale as well, I purchased it for $60 but its going for $35 now.

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https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4

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Side note: I don't use palm grip, and know nothing about hand sizes/mouse fit

Try this.

Best sensor on the market, not certain of its weight, though.

I haven't used it but this stuff looks good

https://www.amazon.com/GT-5000-strips-phones-cameras-knives/dp/B00ATH0KEA#customerReviews

Look at the reviews to see a few mice that people used it on.

is there any differentiation between the 1st and 2nd batches? tempted to snag one off amazon now, but figure I should be sure if it's 1st or 2nd batch first:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T4VW9WP?pf_rd_p=183f5289-9dc0-416f-942e-e8f213ef368b&pf_rd_r=N85HXYXP4Z9R4WPDD4Y3

I love browsing through the gaming mouse listings on Amazon. It seems like there's a never-ending supply of weird stuff coming out of China. Every time I look there's something new.

I like this one: Hiraliy F300, Deathadder shape. Avago 3050 sensor (low end but ok, and at least they bothered to tell you which sensor the mouse is actually using). Supporting software allowing customization (most mice in this price range don't have that).

Be aware that build quality will be suspect and customer / warranty support will either be poor or completely non-existent. You get what you pay for here.

https://www.amazon.com/HV-MS735-12000DPI-Programmable-Optical-PMW3360/dp/B01DW2VQ5A

Better buttons, top of the line sensor. More ergonomic shape.

https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-mouse-pads-Mo42-Lexip-Compatible/dp/B07MW5XJ8G bought these works perfect on logitech g pro


https://gyazo.com/7dbb7909293b4c20a0e90c490e1ef2c3

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they're slighty thicker than the corepads i have on so i didn't need to remove them, using a hardpard.


inlove with them really would say that they have almost double the glide of corepad.

Hi Peter, thank you for the clarification. I notice that the model number for the black Revel on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Windows-Rubberized/dp/B01HHGHCH8) is still REV-BK16. Is this information out of date, should the newest revision black Revel be REV-BK17?

Broken? Must look that way because of how shiny they are. Their great skates for the G305. I think I would only recommend them on hard pads though.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07MW5XJ8G/ref=ppx_yo_mob_b_track_package_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

if you want the glidiest mouse feet on the market get these:


https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-mouse-pads-Lexip-PC-Mac/dp/B07MW5XJ8G


they can be put on almost any mouse, you don't need to put them where your mouse normally has grooves for it. they technically should last forever, unlike ptfe feet, while having the smoothest performance out there. but most ppl think it's too smooth, but you never know if you'll like it until you try it.

Logitech has their MMO mouse for just under $60:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G600-Gaming-Mouse-Black/dp/B0086UK7IQ

SteelSeries has their MMO mouse for much less [as long as you don't mind the stupid design]:
http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-World-Warcraft-Legendary-Gaming/dp/B005L38QHA/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416630117&sr=1-15&keywords=razer+naga

and Amazon has the newest Naga for a couple dollars over your budget:
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Naga-2014-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00E8CF268/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416630117&sr=1-1&keywords=razer+naga

All three are solid.

Amazon originally did not ship Revel FIT to europe, but some time passed and now they have a new product link with international link supported! (at least for my location) - https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Ergonomic-Gaming-Rubberized/dp/B07HJTYL1V/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541689010&sr=8-1&keywords=Revel+Fit

This is a pretty largeish mouse. https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-REVEL-Gaming-Mouse-Rubberized-PC/dp/B07HJTYL1V/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537830652&sr=8-1&keywords=nixeus+revel+fit

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Lightweight-Honeycomb-Ultralight/dp/B07T4VW9WP/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=mm710&qid=1560721418&s=gateway&sr=8-5

interesting, they updated the image. it has a new coating and white ptfe feets now.

Dream Machine DM1

Nixeus Revel

Cougar 450M

Personally, I prefer Cougar because it has 2 buttons on both sides like the Sensei.

That was a link to the 2013 krait.

Although it has older hardware, the shape is by far and away the most important part of the mouse. I've been using the model O since release and the g pro wireless before that, but if steelseries re-released the kinzu v1 with mouse accel and massive sensor prediction/angle-snapping, I would use it in a heartbeat as my main mouse. I think if you've played games for a long time, it makes finding a familiar shape so much more important.

Also -- If I've learned one thing from using the model o, it's that super-light mice are the real deal, and at 52g I fully intend on maining the mm710 from the day it comes out until a better small lightweight mouse comes out assuming it's even halfway decent, that's how bad the market is for small mice right now.

(Here's a link to the mm710 pre-order)

No idea about the g305, I know nothing about 3d printing mice, though I think the profile is more in line towards what you're looking for as far as shape.

Okay i have ordered cermaic ones from amazon. Mo 42 Lexip
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MW5XJ8G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I won't have to "break in" these ones..

https://www.amazon.com/HV-MS735-12000DPI-Programmable-Optical-PMW3360/dp/B01DW2VQ5A/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517589273&sr=1-1&keywords=pmw3360

this one might be a lot better than either of those, and cheap-ish too.

Thank you very much here is a picture.
If you want some i got mine from here. (Beware they may not work with all mice due to hight.)

The Mionix Naos 7000 has an almost legendarily good build quality and it uses one of the better optical sensors out there. I just ordered one after much research and consideration. I really like ergo mice though (had a Steelseries Ikari Laser when those were top of the line, but the middle mouse button breaks, then had a Steelseries Na'Vi edition sensei, again middle mouse button breaks and the build quality is pretty low, makes noise when I lift it, I'm done with Steelseries they make crap now).

http://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY

If you don't do palm grip though you might not like this, really depends on your grip.

Thanks! It's GT5000 gun grip tape found it on Amazon, for me it's too slippery to be used on the sides. I've been thinking to try lizard skins or the Hotline Grips.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ATH0KEA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EuwoDbX8Q55B3

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nixeus-REVEL-Gaming-Mouse-Rubberized/dp/B01HHGHCH8

they are supposed to be updated and fixed etc right? just ordered :-)

Will grip tape like this or this stick to a matte model O? I assume it will but with the honeycomb shell thought I'd ask before ordering

Looking for a 12-button mouse without the wide ring finger rest

I've got the UtechSmart Venus for the 12 side buttons, but it's giving me horrible hand strain. The body is too wide because the ring finger rest on the right makes it difficult to pickup the mouse to reposition and makes my hand cramp up. I've been using it for a while and I just can't adapt to this shape at all. I'm very much used to the traditional mouse shape where the sides curve inwards or are at least flat so I can pickup the mouse between thumb and ring finger, but the finger rest makes that impossible so I'm straining my pinky instead.

Are there any programmable 12 button mice without this kind of wide body? All the ones I've seen have the ring finger rest, making it too wide for my hands.

I second the Mionix Naos. It seems to have tons of customization and good software and a very ergonomic design. Plus it's on sale http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HGKQ6VY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1406858719&sr=8-1

I personally have the Steel series rival after having the DA 2013 and couldn't be happier

G502 Spectrum and Core on sale as well:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Proteus-Spectrum-Tunable-Gaming/dp/B019OB663A/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1480026739&sr=1-1&keywords=g502

My friend bought a Revel from massdrop and the import costs for EU were 35+ euros making the mouse almost 80 euros total, if you really want a Revel in EU check out amazon , only problem is that they dont ship to every EU country (not to The Netherlands for me)

Would you mind going with off brands?

I have a claw grip which makes the logitech ungrippable

Roccat Nyth is also a reputable brand with keypads.

http://www.roccat.org/en-US/Products/Gaming-Mice/Nyth/

But if you are willing to try off brands, there is this thing by havit

https://www.prohavit.com/products/hv-ms735-mmo-gaming-mouse/

And there is also one by utech

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FNKMVUO/ref=psdcmw_172487_t1_B01DW2VQ5A

And another by red dragon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GU8W5AE/ref=psdcmw_172487_t1_B00FNKMVUO

I got my naga when they had the changeble side plates. I use the smallest one but the ledge is still too big for me to grip by my fingertips in claw comfortably.

I am expecting it to crap out in the near future and i dont really like that new naga design.
I suspect roccat's nyth will be just as uncomfortable for me as the razer naga.

I am looking at trying out the havit. I am glad more companies are daring to try to make mice with a keypad on the side.

Its 42$ on sale at the moment. Alittle more clean look, many buttons and logitech is a reputable company. Defiantly exist cheaper options out there but i dont know about them. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086UK7IQ/ref=twister_B0091I20E6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

You could try the G602, it has 11 programmable buttons and a ton of battery life, I use it.

If you really need a lot of buttons you could try an MMO mouse (ex: G600, Razer Naga), or just search for any MMO mouse wherever you want to buy.