(Part 3) Reddit mentions: The best computer cpu processors

Alright let's do this.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3900X-24-Thread-Processor/dp/B07SXMZLP9/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=3900x&qid=1573307666&sr=8-2

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103?Description=3900x&cm_re=3900x-_-19-113-103-_-Product

https://www.microcenter.com/product/608316/amd-ryzen-9-3900x-38ghz-12-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-prism-cooler

This CPU can be obtained almost anywhere right now, thanks to AMD now stepping up the production. The 3900X is truly a beast, and is very suitable for heavy workstation, streaming, and gaming. It is made with the new Zen 2 7nm architecture, which has noticeably better single core performance as well as providing 12 cores in a consumer-grade CPU. People can argue that the 9900KS is better for gaming, and that is true. However, since the Valve Index runs at 1440p, the difference between the 9900KS and 3900X shrinks. The 9900KS will then just be a few frames ahead. The primary reason why I recommend the 3900X ahead of the 9900KS is its multi-core performance and its PCIe 4.0 support. The 3900X just blasts the 9900KS out the park in multi-core workstation and also streaming capabilities as it has four extra cores and eight extra threads. I'd be happy to show you an Intel 9900KS build if you want to go that route, but I think the 3900X is more future proof and stronger in terms of value. On a side note, I actually do not recommend purchasing the 3950X or Threadripper for this. Those CPUs are more oriented towards workstation then to gaming. Since OP's primary focus is VR and gaming, he wouldn't really benefit from spending an extra $250 for 16 Cores/32 Threads.

GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX 2080 Ti 11GB GDDR6

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce-Overclocked-Graphics-ROG-STRIX-RTX-2080-O11G/dp/B07HY6QWXN/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=rtx+2080+ti&qid=1573308289&sr=8-4

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-rog-strix-rtx2080ti-o11g-gaming/p/N82E16814126263?Description=RTX%202080%20Ti&cm_re=RTX_2080_Ti-_-14-126-263-_-Product

https://www.microcenter.com/product/512876/asus-rog-strix-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-overclocked-triple-fan-11gb-gddr6-pcie-video-card

The RTX 2080 Ti will be the best option for running Valve Index at the highest possible and still playable settings right now. AMD does not really have anything in this class and the RTX 2080 Ti is probably the card you would want to buy for the Valve Index. Don't expect to completely max out in every game, as the Valve Index is ran at 1440p 90-144hz. That requires quite a bit of computing power. NVLink will also not provide a significant boost as most VR games do not support it at all. Also, I do not recommend to get the Titan RTX. It is $2.5K and will not provide a better experience as it is a workstation oriented graphics card. So yeah, that leaves the RTX 2080 Ti as the best choice. There are also quite a few models of the RTX 2080 Ti. A water-cooled card is an option, but I decided not to mess with that. It may be tempting to purchase an EVGA Black Edition, Gigabyte Windforce, MSI Ventus, or ASUS Dual edition card, but it is worth the extra $200 to go and buy a premium model. The ROG Strix model has better a better cooling solution, thermals, and comes with a factory overclock. It also looks quite good in the build. I suggest picking the Strix model of the RTX 2080 Ti up or checking out the EVGA XC and FTW cards. If you want to go MSI, there's a MSI Trio version that's also pretty nice. But again, I recommend the ROG Strix model from ASUS.

RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z RGB Neo DDR4 3600 32GB (2*16GB)

https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Trident-PC4-28800-CL16-19-19-39-F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC/dp/B07WTS8T2W/ref=sr_1_13?keywords=32gb+ddr4+3600&qid=1573308976&sr=8-13

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232858?Description=ddr4%203600%20neo&cm_re=ddr4_3600_neo-_-20-232-858-_-Product

https://www.microcenter.com/product/610708/gskill-trident-z-neo-series-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3600-pc4-28800-cl16-dual-channel-memory-kit-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc---black?ob=1

The Trident Z Neo is one of my favorite RAM models, and it is perfect for an Ryzen build. It clocks at 3600MHz and is a bit cheaper than the Corsair models. 3600MHz is the sweet spot for Ryzen. If you want the lowest latency for RAM, you can assign memory in a 1:1 ratio for the Infinity Fabric. This will allow peak performance and efficiency. 16GB is sufficient for VR and gaming, but I feel like 32GB is better. It future-proofs the system for future VR titles and allows for better results in workstation task and maybe a few games.

SSD: Varies

1.https://www.newegg.com/xpg-sx8100-2tb/p/0D9-0017-001A2?Description=2tb%20ssd%20adata&cm_re=2tb_ssd_adata-_-9SIAJNUA6Y3539-_-Product

2.https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-aorus-2-tb/p/N82E16820009013?Description=2tb%20pcie%204&cm_re=2tb_pcie_4-_-20-009-013-_-Product

(1) This is a very good PCIe 3.0 SSD. It has significantly better read and write speeds compared to the SATA and cheaper NVMe SSDs. Thanks to a sell on Newegg, the XPG SX8100 2TB is only $199.99, which is a great price. 2TB is enough to storage 50+ games as well as a large number of files.

(2) This SSD is probably one of the fastest out there, running on the PCIe 4.0 interface. This will be two times the cost of the XPG SX8100 on Newegg. It will allow very short load times and extremely fast boot speeds. This SSD will also run a bit hot, but its included heatsink will definitely do its job and provide sufficient cooling to the SSD. In my opinion, it is not worth buying over the SX8100 because I don't think you would benefit much from it. It is more of a workstation-oriented component. But if you want the latest technology, there you go.

Motherboard: ASRock X570 Taichi ATX

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-X570-Taichi-DDR4-Motherboard/dp/B07TD911Y2/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2EO8H1K0TYEXN&keywords=taichi+x570&qid=1573310161&sprefix=taichi+x%2Caps%2C149&sr=8-2

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157883?Description=taiichi&cm_re=taiichi-_-13-157-883-_-Product

https://www.microcenter.com/product/608734/asrock-x570-taichi-atx-am4-amd-motherboard

There is no need to spend as much money as possible on the motherboard. The ASRock Taichi X570 does the trick well. Since the launch of Ryzen, Taichi motherboards have proven to be strong in VRMs and overclocking potential. It also has a good design and build quality. While motherboards such as the MSI Ace and ASUS ROG Maximus are great, they are just unnecessary for gaming. Those motherboards have more PCIe slots and features more directed at workstation. The Taichi represents great value at its price point and will pair with the 3900X quite well.

PCPartPicker Part List

|Type|Item|Price|
|:-|:-|:-|
|CPU|AMD - Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor|-|
|CPU Cooler|be quiet! - Shadow Rock LP 51.4 CFM CPU Cooler|€35.90 @ Amazon Deutschland|
|Motherboard|Gigabyte - X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard|€249.90 @ Caseking|
|Memory|Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory|€145.71 @ Amazon Deutschland|
|Storage|Inland - Premium 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive|€140.05 @ Amazon Deutschland|
|Video Card|MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card|€559.00 @ Amazon Deutschland|
|Case|Silverstone - RVZ03 Mini ITX Desktop Case|€99.90 @ Caseking|
|Power Supply|Corsair - SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply|€110.00 @ Amazon Deutschland|
|Case Fan|Noctua - NF-A12x15 PWM 55.44 CFM 120 mm Fan|€20.50 @ Amazon Deutschland|
|Case Fan|Noctua - NF-A12x15 PWM 55.44 CFM 120 mm Fan|€20.50 @ Amazon Deutschland|
|Case Fan|Noctua - NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan|€29.90 @ Amazon Deutschland|
|Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts|||
|Total|€1411.36||
|Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-19 22:46 CEST+0200|||

I made sure that all of the parts chosen were available at Amazon.de.

The Ryzen 9 3900X is available as well from a third party scalper. You may want to wait until Amazon gets it back in stock at a better price.

The Shadow Rock LP cooler is the best readily available cooler for the 3900X in this case. The Noctua NH-L12 (not NH-L12S) would be even better but it has been discontinued by Noctua and is no longer available from Amazon.de. If you are able to get one, delete the A12x25 fan and get a third A12x15 fan instead.

The Gigabyte X570 I motherboard is the only X570 mini ITX motherboard available now. I'd recommend getting an X570 motherboard for a new PC using the 3900X.

You mentioned that you already have memory but not what kind. If it isn't low profile like the Crucial memory selected or Corsair Vengeance LPX, it won't work with the CPU cooler.

I was surprised to see Micro Center's Inland store brand of SSD available on Amazon.de. It's a fast NVMe PCIe 3.0 x 4 SSD at a good price.

The RTX 2070 Super has very nearly the performance of a RTX 2080 at a lower price. To fit the case, you need a true two slot graphics card with no overhang. To be absolutely sure of fit, I'd recommend getting NVidia's own reference card directly from them. The MSI version selected overhangs a tiny bit. It will probably fit but I can't be 100% sure. The RVZ03 case puts the graphics card in its own chamber with two case fans. This chamber acts like an oversized blower to cool the graphics card as long as it has an open cooler design. For best results a blower style GPU shouldn't be used.

The RVZ03 case is also available from Amazon.de.

The Corsair SF 600 is the best SFX power supply available in its size class. You could go with a very compact ATX power supply in this case but I wouldn't recommend it. Cable management will be hard enough as it is. You'll need to get a SFX to ATX adapter plate.

The two A12x15 fans are to be installed next to the graphics card. You could save money here by instead using the two slim fans that came with the case, they aren't as good but they're free. You'll need a fan splitter to attach these fans to the single chassis fan header on the motherboard. The A12x25 fan is to replace the fan on the Shadow Rock LP cooler -- it's a better fan and with the 3900X you need all the cooling you can get. The A12x25 fan can be either mounted on top of the cooler or attached to the case fan slot above the motherboard. All fans should be mounted with air flowing inward since it's a positive pressure case.

I'm no expert on portable monitors. I found one on Amazon that may suit you for 329 Euros. All the portable monitors I saw seem to have an HDMI input instead of Display Port. So no high refresh rates. At least this one is a 4K IPS panel.

The default Package Power Target (PPT) for a 3900X in an X570 motherboard is 142W. The cooler is rated at 130W. To avoid throttling, I suggest going into the BIOS, switching PPT from Auto to Manual and setting the PPT to 129W. Note - you can't enter a 0 digit in the BIOS on this motherboard for PPT, so 129 is OK, 130 can't be entered. Setting this power limit will still let the 105W 3900X perform extremely well, it just won't have quite as much headroom for Precision Boost 2 automated overclocking.

I hope all this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

Hey, welcome to the world of PC building! I'm gonna type out a lot of stuff for you, and hopefully it helps. To start out with, here's a build for you :)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor | £185.75 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard | MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | £58.99 @ CCL Computers
Memory | *Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | £45.06 @ Amazon UK
Storage | Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | £67.98 @ Eclipse Computers
Video Card | Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Mini Video Card | £116.99 @ CCL Computers
Case | Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | £41.05 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply | Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | £51.60 @ CCL Computers
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit | £83.62 @ More Computers
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | £651.04
| *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria |
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-13 22:08 GMT+0000 |

CPU - The CPU is the "brains" of your computer, it does almost all of the computing (with a few notable exceptions, like in gaming) in your computer, and is the biggest pain to change out except for maybe the motherboard, so you typically want to get the best CPU you can during the first round of your build. There's a few things to consider when selecting a CPU, the most straightforward of which is clock speed, which is where the term "overclocking" comes from. The clock speed of a CPU is how fast it can do calculations, and this is measured in cycles per second, or Hz / GHZ.

Overclocking a CPU is when you take a CPU and force it to compute faster than it does coming out of the factory, and is only possible on certain models. The one I selected for you, the i5-6500, is not overclockable, denoted by the lack of a "k" on the end of it, while other models such as the i5-4690k, the CPU I have, can be overclocked.

The next thing to consider is the number of cores in a chip (CPU). You can think of the number of cores as the number of concurrent operations your computer can run, for the sake of simplicity. This works for times when you want to say "Hey computer, do these six math problems," so that if you have a single-core it'll take six times longer than a six-core CPU, but a much more common scenario is when you want to ask your computer "Hey, can you do this twelve-part math problem for me?" This type of scenario comes up a lot in gaming, and if the task can be broken up among the different cores it's referred to as parallel processing.

The i5 series has four cores, which is currently the recommended amount for gaming. I got by for a few years with two, but as technology improves, devs will learn to better utilize it, and now I wouldn't really want to build a "gaming rig" with anything less than four. I had an i3-4130, which as we now know is a dual-core, non-overclockable CPU.

There's more to consider when it comes to selecting a CPU, but those are the main points. If you want to learn more I'd be more than happy to share.

Motherboard - If the CPU is the brains of the computer, the motherboard is the central nervous system. Everything plugs in to the motherboard, and so you don't want to get a super cheapo board because if your motherboard goes up in smoke, your whole build might be torched. This tends to be truer nowadays of power supplies, but still applies.

The one thing you need to know about motherboards right now is that they come in a few different sizes. Here's a picture of the main sizes, or "form factors": EATX, ATX, Micro-ATX, and Mini-ITX. As you scale down, you tend to lose features, but also reduce cost. For that reason, I've selected a good-quality Micro-ATX motherboard. You can look up more specifics on what you can and can't do with the Micro-ATX form factor on your own.

Memory - What PCPartPicker calls "memory" is often referred to as RAM, or Random Access Memory, like the Daft Punk Album. RAM is like a super-fast hard drive that wipes itself every time your computer turns on. This is useful, for example, if you told your single-core computer to add 2 + 2, and then add 6 to that. Instead of writing to a slow (by comparison) hard drive, it'll tell the RAM to remember "4" when it's done computing 2 + 2, and then ask for what it just told the RAM to add 6; CPUs have no (except for the cache, but we'll ignore that) memory on their own, and so every persistent task you want to run (like Spotify, or your web browser) is going to need a certain amount of RAM to operate efficiently. If you don't have enough RAM, your computer will slow to a crawl. 8GB is more than enough for what you're gonna be doing, but not so much that we're wasting money.

Storage - There's two types of storage that you can use in a computer nowadays, there's Hard Disk Drives (HDD) and Solid State Drives (SSD). HDDs work like really fast record players, the have disks that spin (called platters) and a needle that will read or write data to them in the form of dimples or not dimples. These are limited by the speed of the disks, which for consumers tend to peak at about 72,000 RPM. SSDs, on the other hand, use the charge states of atoms to represent data. This is much faster, as you can read the entire disk in a single pass (theoretically).

On the other hand, SSD technology is much newer and much more expensive per gigabyte, so a fairly common strategy in high-end builds is to have a 250GB SSD for the OS and frequently used programs (Spotify, Office, Chrome, Overwatch) and a much larger HDD, usually on the order of 1TB or 1000GB for larger file storage for things that don't need to be accessed very often (like raw video data). The reason people put their OS and frequently used programs on SSDs is because SSDs are so much faster. If RAM is like a maglev train, an SSD is driving a car, and an HDD is like riding a bicycle.

One significant decision I made with this build is that I decided your needs would be better suited by a small SSD instead of a large HDD. You're only going to have 275GB of space on this computer! I made this decision because I think for someone with needs like yours i.e. mostly trivial (sorry) office work and some light gaming, you don't need much storage space, so it's much more important for your computer to be fast. If you feel like 275GB isn't enough, you can swap it for a much larger 1TB HDD, like a WD Blue drive, at the price of it being much slower.

Video Card - This is the most important component for gaming. The video card contains a specialized CPU, called a Graphics Processing Unit, or GPU, which specializes in displaying images fast, well, and repeatedly (and also some other things like bitcoin mining). If you want to play overwatch on PC, you need a graphics card.

I realize this build is about fifty pounds over budget. Here's where I would cut back if I were you, but I'm gonna argue my case: the video card I have selected for you always hovers around £120, but it's significantly better in performance than the next cheaper graphics card(s):

Look at the top chart on this page. The second-from-the-top bar is the GTX 1050, with an average Overwatch frames-per-second of 93, and a minimum of 73. The second-from-the-bottom card is the RX 460, which is the next cheapest graphics card, priced at around £100, which has an average FPS of 64, and minimum of 50. Most cheap monitors nowadays have a refresh rate of 60Hz, which means anything below 60FPS you're going to notice as stuttery and uncomfortable, which is why I'd recommend the 1050 for you; it's the minimum you need to play Overwatch on Ultra settings without any stuttering and lag.

Case - Sleek looking Micro-ATX case. So long as the case has adequate cooling and can fit the form factor of the motherboard you've selected (Micro-ATX, in your case), the rest of it is basically just looks. This one is a fairly cheap well-built case that's not too expensive.

Power Supply - Power supplies are really important to get right, because a bad power supply will quite literally set your whole build on fire. This unit is well-reviewed, and at a pretty low price, as well. Your computer is estimated to draw only 200 or so watts from the wall at peak usage, and this unit can supply up to 450 watts.

> Also ps3 games dont need os3 emulators they are DESIGNED for computers. For example im talking about the pc releaes for ps3 games found on steam.

That's a different matter. From what you said, it sounded like you wanted to play actual PS3 games on the computer. And the disc that you insert into the PS3 had code that's specially compiled and designed for the PS3, while the PC version of the game is completely different. (They probably share most of the code in the design stage, but the end products look very very different on a technical level, to the point of being different games.)

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Anyhow, I've been doing some comparison shopping, and I have some recommendations:

CPU (top recommendation listed first):

• Intel Core i7-4770k: Amazon - $328.59 - (Benchmark: 10242) this is the highest performance processor that's reasonably priced. Going higher than this is a waste of money for little gain. this is the current version of the processor that I have (mine's a Core i7-2700k). Think it's worth the additional $19 over the regular 4770 listed below. The benefit of going a bit high end on the processor is that it'll keep up for a longer period, so will be able to put off upgrading for another couple of years beyond what you'd be able to with a Core i5 or i3.
  
  
• Intel Core i7-4770: Newegg - $309.99 - (Benchmark: 9901) Still a very nice processor, but if you're going to go with this, I still think that the 4770k is worth it.
  
  
• Intel Core i5-4570: Newegg - $199.99 - (Benchmark: 7065) this is a competent processor that will more than handle anything you throw at it. It's just a bit less powerful and it can handle fewer simultaneous tasks than the Core i7. It'll probably begin to show its age a bit sooner than the Core i7.
  
  

  Motherboard:
  

  
  

• ASRock Z97 Pro4 - Newegg - $109.49 - Compatible with everything else, and it has a very nice feature set. My boyfriend did the comparison shopping on this one. (I usually defer to him on motherboards; he's very good at comparison shopping on them).
  
  

  RAM:
  

  
  

• G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB - Newegg - $75.99 - This is almost the same memory that I have, one iteration newer. If you want to, you can bump up to 16GB, but I don't think you need to. And RAM almost always comes down in price, so if you end up wanting to increase it later, it'll probably be cheaper.
  
  

  Hard Drive:
  

  
  

• Western Digital Black series 1TB - Newegg - $74.99 - Not much to say on this. A nice big hard drive with plenty of space for games, good performance, and a 5 year warranty.
  
  

  Power Supply:
  

  
  

• Rosewill PHOTON Series PHOTON-650 - Newegg - $79.99 - Has more than enough wattage to power everything and last you for as long as you keep the computer. It's also modular, so if you're not using some of the wires, you don't have to have them cluttering up the inside of the PC (but be sure to hang on to them, in case you need them in the future).
  
  

  Graphics Card - many possibilities, here:
  

  
  

• SAPPHIRE DUAL-X 100373L Radeon R9 - Newegg - $189.99 - This is a new graphics card, part of AMD's current generation. It'll run current games (and future games for a while to come) on max settings. (We can look around at eBay, too.)
  
  
• MSI AMD R9 270 - Ebay - currently $77, not much time left in the auction, though
  
  
• Any AMD R9 270, 280, or 290 on eBay is probably a good bet. You may just need to hunt around and snipe a few auctions. And be sure the seller has good ratings of course.
  
  

  Case - any of these will work well:
  

  
  

• APEX SK-393-C
  
  
• Antec NEW SOLUTION SERIES VSK-4000
  
  
• Rosewill REDBONE
  
  
• Or you can shop around here to find something you like better. All the cases beyond that link should be compatible ATX Midsize towers. (But you can run it by me first, if you like, just to be sure.) I'm very partial to Rosewill, which is Newegg's house brand, but anything with a lot of purchases and a high rating should serve you well.
  
  

  OS
  

  
  

• Windows 8.1 - Newegg - $99.99 - no real way to get around this, unfortunately.

> The mobo supports SLI but at 8x PCIe 3.0, that should be fast enough if I ever want to add another GPU, right?

Yes. If the mainboard is specified for SLI, that will work. From the mainboard layout there should be no problem, though I can't be sure.

> Hopefully it's a bit more future proof with the extra power from hyperthreading.

It will help a bit, but for gaming only I'd save the money and go with the i5.

> I should be able to use and benefit from the faster RAM after changing BIOS settings, right?

Yes, no problem there.

> Couldn't really find any real comparison between different manufacturer GTX 1080s

Do you speak a bit of german? Computerbase tested many of them, see https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07/geforce-gtx-1080-partnerkarten-vergleich-test/. The Inno is okay, the Phoenix is nice, and the Gigabyte G1 is quiet. I'd value that most. If you gofor SLI later, a blower cooler would be nice though.

> As a last point, the CPU cooler isn't the greatest (CM 212X), but on the other hand its not terribly expensive and as far as I can tell it's easily good enough even for some overclocking, or am I mistaken?

Some overclocking will work, yes, but a better cooler like the Macho Rev.B does not cost that much more and is quite a bit better.

Please note also that the NEX psu is not really good for its high price.

This would be my build:

pc-kombo shared list

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | Intel Core i5-6600K | EUR 235,16 @ Amazon.de
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI | EUR 138,60 @ Amazon.de
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4 3000 (2x8) (16 GB) | EUR 74,77 @ Cyberport
Storage | WD 3TB Blue (3 TB) | EUR 94,90 @ Caseking
SSD | OCZ Trion 150 (256 GB) | EUR 63,89 @ Amazon.de
Video Card | GeForce GTX 1080 | EUR 739,00 @ Mindfactory
Case | Nanoxia Deep Silence 3 | EUR 69,90 @ Cyberport
Power Supply | COUGAR GX800V3/R (800 W) | EUR 103,57 @ Amazon.de
CPU Cooler | Thermalright Macho Rev.B | EUR 46,99 @ Amazon.de
| Total | €1581.75
| Generated by pc-kombo 08.07.2016 |

Note that the case is purely a suggestion, it is very close to the R5 but cheaper.

Change the processor for an i3-4130. Faster and only a few bucks more at $120, not to mention you have an upgrade path to a Core i5/i7 if you want later. Or, if you can, budget get an i5-4590 and you get a quad-core.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EUUKVXM/?tag=pcpapi-20

With that obviously comes a change of motherboard, and the best one for the price is the MSI B85-G41. It costs $70.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130699&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Changing that TN panel monitor for an IPS model only costs $5 more and gets you a screen that looks a lot more elegant, has much thinner bezels and because it's IPS has much better viewing angles, better contrast ratio, and better color reproduction. The monitor is something you use every single time you use the computer, so don't skimp on it.

http://slickdeals.net/f/7215282-hp-22xi-21-5-1080p-1920x1080-ips-monitor-110-with-free-shipping-at-shopping-hp-com

Corsair AF series fans are very good, there's no denying that, but honestly there's quite a good amount of fans that are better for the money. But if you MUST have purple LEDs, they're okay. For something functional, Rosewill Hyperborea 140mm will push a lot more air (90CFM vs 57CFM) and they're also 4-pin PWM and don't use cheap sleeve bearings so while not silent they are relatively quiet (I have them). There's also the 120mm version that pushes the same amount of air. $13 for 140mm, $10 for 120mm. Honestly if you're on a budget I'd say to spend more on stuff that's gonna make your games run better and your PC run cooler, but if you'd rather spend it on making it look flashy that's fine too.

http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-ROCF-11004-Hyperborea-120mm-Case/dp/B006DKEQV0/ref=pd_sim_pc_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=07XK7TFAF1V50CH4FE4S

As for the case, there's really no other one that has that combination when it comes to color, but there are better options for the money. If you want a mix of both it looking flashy and having good features there's the Rosewill Patriot for $60. It comes with four blue LED 120mm fans to the two on the Bitfenix, meaning you could also buy two fans instead of four. It also comes with a side panel window if you wanna look at your components.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147169&cm_re=rosewill_patriot-_-11-147-169-_-Product

The graphics card you should definitely change as there's much better options for the money. For example there's the Radeon R9 270 which will give you performance within 10% of the GTX 760 for only $160 and will stomp on the 750 Ti, meaning on most demanding games you can run at High settings instead of Medium.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202090&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

The keyboard you should change. You can get the Monoprice Cherry MX Blue for $51 on sale, saving you $40.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=114&cp_id=11401&cs_id=1140102&p_id=9433&AID=11064683&PID=4485850&ref=cj&utm_source=cj&utm_medium=11064683&utm_term=Slickdeals+LLC-1122587

As for the mouse, I know it's a great mouse, but there are also cheaper options that will give you the same options. Not from Logitech themselves, though, obviously. This one has 4.5/5 reviews on Amazon, has weights, on-the-fly DPI buttons, and 12 macro buttons. Only costs $37 too.

http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Perdition-Precision-Programmable-Cartridge-profiles/dp/B00GU8W5AE/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1411949015&sr=1-1&keywords=gaming+mouse

As for RAM, you can pick up Patriot 2x4GB DDR3-1600 for $73 at Newegg and that will do the trick nicely.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220836&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Any questions let me know.

Well since the 12-Core 3900X is out of stock on Newegg and you replaced it with a 2nd gen 2700X link, you'd be better off with the 3rd gen Ryzen 7 3700X which seems to be in stock on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3700X-16-Thread-Processor/dp/B07SXMZLPK/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=3900X&qid=1563669764&s=gateway&sr=8-1.

It's pretty much equivalent to a core i9-9900K, and will be plenty fast. That's since you want your build ASAP. Alternatively you could wait for the 3900X to be restocked in perhaps a couple weeks time. Doesn't matter that much since you're not rendering.

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As for the other components here's a some recommendations, the one you linked is perfect if not mentioned:

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Motherboard: Suggest going with an ASUS or MSi Motherboard, since I've heard ASRock cheap out on components over features. Something like an

-ASUS Prime X570-P https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119199 ~$30 difference

-MSi MPG X570 PLUS GAMING https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144262?Item=N82E16813144262 ~$10+, comes with a cool feature for you which is an M.2 SSD heatsink, as it will be your primary and only storage device.

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CASE: I have that MX330-G case and it's GREAT value for the money, and allows good airflow. However, you should consider purchasing at least one extra fan, as it comes with only one. This case can easily hide the cables of a non modular PSU as it has a bottom shroud. Beware that it won't fit tall air CPU coolers such as the Hyper 212 EVO, maximum height would be 155mm (Although I was able to fit a Deepcool GAMMAX GTE of 157mm barely without touching the glass) if you decide to get one later. AMDs stock cooler is pretty decent for now though if you won't overclock.

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PSU: You didn't add a PSU to your list so here's a reputable one. Looked up the Seasonic one on Newegg and it costs the same but semi modular instead of fully.

- EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold Fully Modular - $109.99 https://www.newegg.com/evga-650-gq-210-gq-0650-v1-650w/p/N82E16817438059?Item=N82E16817438059 It's pretty nice to have modular setup and you can reuse it for future builds.

This clears up all the nitpicky details I have about this build. Hope it helps improve your system, and if you have any follow up questions feel free to ask. Nice job 8-BlT.

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EDIT #1: Comes up at about $1322 + Tax & Shipping (with the MSi Motheboard).

Using a Salt Lake City ZIP code on newegg, tax comes at $77 without including the CPU (sourced from Amazon).

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EDIT #2: Since I just found electricity in Utah is so cheap, you can opt for a non-modular EVGA 600W 80+ Bronze and save $60: https://www.newegg.com/evga-600-br-100-br-0600-k1-600w/p/N82E16817438146. As I mentioned before that particular PC case can hide the cables pretty well, and since you don't have a hard drive you can very easily stuff the unused ones in the HDD cage area. Even if you decide to install some, there's extra space behind the PSU.

I've been helping people pick computer parts a lot lately, and here's my go-to current build (as in, where I feel price/performance is optimized)--it's usually around $1000, NOT including monitors. I built two for my company (minus the video card), and they are wonderful. If you want to compare: CPUs, GPUs.

>Case: Corsair 200R, $73

>http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-200R-Compact-CC-9011023-WW/dp/B009GXZ8MM/

>Cases cheaper than this price point will become flimsy, break, literally cut you, and otherwise fall apart over time. I like the way the 200R is, too--no LEDs, no weird shapes, and 2.5" drive slots.

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>Motherboard: Asus Z97-A, $145

>http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Z97-A-DDR3-2600-Motherboards/dp/B00K2MAU5Q/

>This is a medium range motherboard with PWM case fan pins: an extremely quiet combo. It's more important than you think.

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>CPU: i7-4790K, $336

>http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4790K-Processor-Cache-BX80646I74790K/dp/B00KPRWAX8/

>While we're on CPUs: GHZ MEANS ALMOST NOTHING FOR PERFORMANCE. My 2Ghz i7 in my Mac outperforms my 4Ghz 2500K in my desktop. It's annoying that it's even mentioned in anything but overclocking guides.

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>Memory: 16GB Corsair Vengeance (2x8GB), $130

>http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10/dp/B006EWUO22/

>I find myself always using >8GB. Task Manager tells me I'm at 9GB with lots apps but no actual games open.

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>Graphics Card: EVGA GTX 960, $210

>http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Dual-Link-Graphics-02G-P4-2966-KR/dp/B00SC6HAS4/

>The 960 was recently released, but the 750 and the 900 series are very powerful and power efficient, and EVGA makes great cards.

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>PSU: Corsair CX 600W, $60

>http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Watt-EPS%C2%A0-CX600/dp/B0092ML0OC/

>I skimped on a PSU once (it was "Diablotek"). It took my motherboard and a stick of RAM with it when it died.

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>SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, $135

>http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/

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>OS: Windows 8.1 Full Version (not OEM), $100:

>http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-8-1-Full-Version/dp/B00EDSI7QO/

Current total: $1189 + tax, way over budget, so...


>The PSU can be replaced with a 500W EVGA for $17 less:

>http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-80PLUS-Certified-ATX12V-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU

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>The SSD can be replaced by a 2TB 7200RPM drive, where you won't need a 2nd HDD but booting will be much slower, for $60 less:

>http://www.amazon.com/HGST-Deskstar-3-5-Inch-7200RPM-Internal/dp/B003GSLDRC/
(and get the sata3 monoprice cable)

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>The GPU can be replaced by a GTX 750 Ti, for $65 less, but at a ~30% loss to graphics power (although it's still a great card):

>http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclock-Dual-Link-Graphics-02G-P4-3753-KR/dp/B00IDG3IDO

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>The CPU can be a non-K version (at very little/no performance loss), for $36 less:

>http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i7-4790-Processor-BX80646I74790/dp/B00J56YSLM

>The next step down in terms of CPU is an i5-4690, at ~30% less CPU power, for $80 less. I personally wouldn't go there.

This is at $1015 + tax--still over budget, but going much cheaper really starts to bite into your experiences (and if anyone here can recommend anything to save money, I welcome it).


As for monitors, if you're playing EVE, honestly I'd recommend a 2560x1440 monitor because spreadsheets. However, since those start around $300, my go-to cheaper monitors are the not-bad 22" 1080p ones that can be had for around $140.

>BenQ 24" flicker-free (for comfortable viewing) 1080p TN panel (for faster response times), $140:

>http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-GL2460HM-24-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B00IKDFL4O/

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>Dell 22" 1080p IPS panel (for better colors and viewing angles), $134:

>http://www.amazon.com/Dell-CFGKT-IPS-LED-21-5-Inch-LED-lit-Monitor/dp/B009H0XQPU/

Source: I've done IT for the past few years, and done dozens of computer purchases/builds.

Notes: I don't buy AMD or ATI unless it's an extreme budget build. I don't buy off-brand because I've had parts break and then not have an RMA available; I've had good experience and RMA support with Corsair and EVGA. You don't really need a CD/DVD drive; you can install Windows from a USB key, but if you're unsure, CD/DVD drives are like $15. If you go with Intel/nVidia Maxwell, you won't really need a >500W PSU.

I don't like to skimp on computers much because, economically, if you're spending even 5-10% of your time waiting for your computer and you earn $10-25/hr, $1000 is paid for in somewhere between 2000-250 hours of use, yet the computer will last at least 3-5 years.

For $2,000, you can score a pretty excellent VR dev rig.

If you're already using UE4, and you've got got your DK1, you're probably relatively familiar with the basic demands— The faster your CPU, the faster everything compiles, and more ability you have to get things done simultaneously outside your IDE. RAM is a similar story, as well letting you play with more polys and textures in whatever modeling program you use. For the GPU, various Oculus people have dropped the hint that you pretty much want a GTX 770 as a baseline for advanced apps [source]. That's consistent with what benchmarks have had to say about what it'll take to drive the (probably) 1440p CV1.

With regards to the OS, there are very few reasons to use Windows 7. You can read some reddit discussions about that here or here, but the moral of the story is that everything works better on 8 except maybe the layout, which you can change.

$2,000 is a good spot— it's pretty much where the bang-for-buck curve becomes a cliff. Here's about how that build looks:

Full-Featured VR Kit

| part | link | | price |
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|cpu|Intel Core i7-4770K Quad-Core Desktop Processor (3.5 GHz, 8 MB Cache, Intel HD graphics, BX80646I74770K)|amazon|$299.99|
|video card|EVGA GeForce GTX780 SuperClocked w/EVGA ACX Cooler 3GB GDDR5 384bit, DVI-I, DVI-D, HDMI,DP, SLI Ready (03G-P4-2784-KR)|amazon|$509.99|
|ram|G.SKILL Value 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C11D-16GNT|newegg|$127.99|
|motherboard|ASRock Z87 PRO3 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard|newegg|$94.99|
|power supply|CORSAIR RM Series RM750 750W ATX12V v2.31 and EPS 2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply|newegg|$129.99|
|case|Corsair Carbide Series Black 400R Mid Tower Computer Case (CC-9011011-WW)|amazon|$79.99|
|ssd|Crucial M500 240GB SATA 2.5" 7mm (with 9.5mm adapter) Internal Solid State Drive CT240M500SSD1|newegg|$114.99|
|hard drive|Western Digital WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive, Blue - OEM|newegg|$59.99|
|disc drive|Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 (Black)|amazon|$20.65|
|operating system|Windows 8.1 System Builder OEM DVD 64-Bit|amazon|$92.00|
|fans|Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)|amazon|$32.00|
|monitor|LG IPS234V-PN Black 23" 14ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor IPS 250 cd/m2 5,000,000:1x2|newegg|$299.98|
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| |See current build price with shipping and tax| total | $1862.55|

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This leaves you with wiggle-room, to make a couple decisions based on your uses and preferences. You could bump one of the monitors up to 27" 1440p, you could bump the very capable GTX 780 up to a 780 Ti, you could move up to 32GB of RAM, increase the size of the SSD, or just pocket the change. It really depends on what apps you're trying to produce, and what your workflow looks like— if it were me, I'd lean towards the 1440p screen, just for workflow reasons.

If you have any questions (or anything to teach me), let me know!

> I felt more comfortable going the Intel route and would like to continue that way to have a similar architecture everywhere even if I am open to listening. I am not anti-AMD or whatever.

That's a fine decision, but if you want to save a bit more money, it's probably cheaper to go AMD and get equal/better performance. Most software development tools are multithreaded and will benefit from more cores and threads. AMD CPUs are very similar to Intel CPUs, and the only difference is slightly slower single core clocks and much much slower AVX512. If you know you need AVX512, stay with Intel.

For example:

• Ryzen 7 2700 is a 8 core/16 thread CPU with 3.2 GHz base and 4.1 GHz boost for $297
  
  
• Ryzen 5 2600 is a 6 core/12 thread CPU with 3.4 GHz base and 3.9 GHz boost for $213
  
  These will offer better performance in any program that takes advantage of all 6 cores/12 threads compared to the 9600k, and is much cheaper. Intel really shines with Gaming builds that want high single core clocks, but from what I see, you're not doing any gaming. Definitely worth taking a look at if you want to save some money.
  
  What are your specific reasons for being more comfortable going with Intel?

Getting a 120GB SSD drive is gonna make you have to micro manage it or not get to use it for much. If all you want is faster boot times a Hybrid does the job. If you want to put games, do video encoding or any other HDD taxing resources your gonna want a larger SSD so you can actually put a fair amount on it.

I don't know if you can get amazon down there but this is what I use: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AZMLIDQ which is pretty much the same price and honestly better in every way. I can't remember which CPU you had and since you deleted it I can't read it but I recommend Intel Core i5-4690 @ 3.50GHz if your going for the best CPU per value, I believe yours listed at like $229 so this should be in the ballpark. If you're curious you can use this site to check its price to performance ratio (The i5 I listed is the best value/performance i5 in the 4XXX line of them) https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_value_available.html

Alright I made a build tell me what you think.

• Case: NZXT Vulcan Enthusiast $69.51 Free Shipping
  
• Motherboard: Gigabyte Intel Z77 G1.SNIPER M3 $179.99 Free Shipping
  
• Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K $338.98 Free Shipping
  
• RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB Ram $209.98 Free Shipping
  
• Hard Drive: Western Digital 3TB $168.77 Free Shipping
  
• Solid State Drive OCZ Technology 64 GB $72.24 Free Shipping
  
• Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series H80 $86.26 Shipping: Free Shipping
  
• Power Supply: KenTek 1000W $64.51 Shipping: $6.54
  
• Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX690 $1,199 Shipping $9.55
  
• OS Windows 7 Home Premium $96.48 Free Shipping
  
• DVD Drive: Asus 24xDVD-RW $19.99 Free Shipping
  
• Monitor: 47 Inch LG Commercial TV $499.99 Free Shipping
  
  Price comes to $3003. (With Shipping)
  
  Cant go wrong with GTX 690, Intel 3770k liquid cooled, and 32 GB Ram with a 47 Inch Monitor!

ill give you that witcher does look alot worse on Xbox then PC because the game is optimized that what my point is. Yes the PC version looks good but is terrible optimized so FPS is over the place why xbox setting arnt quite as good as high but is steady 25-30fps.

this is my point your missing. at launch the PC will in theory be better unless they pull a batman.

But at the moment xbox is better optimised and if you take RES and FPS into account the Xbox is better at the moment pending the iminet patch on PC.

As for you PC WOW US prices are cheap.

GTX 970 = 265
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NOP536Y?keywords=Gtx970&qid=1450382089&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

MB = £123( closest i could find) Maximus VI gene
http://www.amazon.co.uk/MAXIMUS-Socket-4DDR3-Maximum-microATX/dp/B00E5Z052Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450382152&sr=8-1&keywords=Maximus+VI


CPU£235
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Graphics-BX80646I74770K-Generation-Technology/dp/B00CO8TBQ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450382234&sr=8-1&keywords=I7+4770k

So thats the basics not including Ram, HDD, Case or power supply.

thats about £600 ($890) for three components at the basic level, plus another £200 for everything else, Plus extras, monitor unless you have this hooked up to TV and mouse etc.

as for a whore.

a, but it would still look better on PC, also I doubt that I would barely get 30fps I would maintain that consistently with a 970. Game can't even hit 20fps on xbox. like I said I haven't played it so I can't know for certain.

was a reply to my response of

This game is not optimised for PC at the moment it might look better but running at 10fps is it really.

As you have not played either version your point is null and void.

Next point where have i said

"PC is better DAE FINK IM RIGHT? "

or my title: "How about you title your posts, without your petty opinions on PC."

Didnt mention in my title and one line

"So far I'm impressed looks better and runs smoother then on PC. "

for you ill edit the text to say my PC

It depends what kind of games you play and what resolution and settings tbh. when you play games is your cpu at 100%? If not then you won't see much gain. For $300 on intel I think the best you're going to get is an 9600k (sad day to be blue) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117959&Description=9600k&cm_re=9600k-_-19-117-959-_-Product

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only up to 6 cores from your 4 but much much faster, I think the best alternative to that would be the 9400f much cheaper but it doesn't have an igpu (only useful if you use intels quick sync when rendering) and it's clock speeds are much slower than the 8600k but it is like $100 less so that's pretty big

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-9400F-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07MRCGQQ4/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=9400f&qid=1556494361&s=gateway&sr=8-1

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Also the 9400f comes with a stock cooler so you can factor like an extra £30 or so into the cost of the 9600k

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I'd probably go with the 9400f and then upgrade everything in a couple of years and save the $100. It should be a pretty big step up from what you have right now. Kinda depends what games you play though.

Look it over and looks pretty good. I know I said no bells and whistles, but since I don't have a pcie wifi card I think I'd rather have https://pcpartpicker.com/product/t797YJ/msi-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac instead even though I'm usually wired. Only thing I'm worried about is I've read the fan is a tight fit on the motherboard, but seems like people have had success with it regardless. Also it looks like the power supply isn't compatible with the pro carbon ac? Any suggestions?

Also looks like the 3700x comes with a cooler at amazon https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3700X-16-Thread-Processor/dp/B07SXMZLPK?th=1 so going to do that and not buy a separate cooler.

Anyway thanks for the great suggestions!

Edit: actually read the extra 4 pin isn't a big deal so will just stick wit th epsu

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Item Name: Mini-ATX build, i7 6700K 4 core 4.2GHz, 32GB 3200 MHz DDR4, Liquid cooling, 6 months old

Condition: Mint condition, babied (the Canadian way)

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Price: £949 ono (reasonable offers considered, no parting out)

Postage and Payment: £20-30 via UPS/Fedex (don't trust Royal Mail) or pickup N65XG London

Any additional information:

6 months, March 1st build. Used less than 4 months. Been sitting around in the box since July.

It was to be my ongoing project but unfortunately I'm selling as I've had to buy a laptop to work in the city half the week and really don't need two high spec machines in the house (some photos in the gallery at the end).

Clean install Win10 currently loaded, if you're looking for a high spec machine or want to get into gaming/VR just drop a video card in and you're off to the races (which is what I was going to do). Otherwise the machine works amazing as is.

Google the case NZXT Manta some really cool stuff you can do with this mini tower. I had it on my desk as it's a real beauty.

Drop me any questions or photo requests.

Specs/Prices:

*Current 'Price' listed from Amazon subject to change via Amazon

ASUS Z170I Pro Gaming Motherboard - Grey/Red/Black

RRP: £167.99 - Current price: £151.02 - I paid: £151.24
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B015FY4HLS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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    Corsair CW-9060025-WW Hydro Series H100i V2 240 mm Extreme Performance All-In-One Liquid CPU Cooler - Black
    
    RRP: £134.99 - Current price: £104.97 - I paid: £109.99
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B019EXSSBG/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    
    
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    EVGA SuperNova P2 650 W Platinum Fully Modular Power Supply Unit
    
    RRP: £129.99 - Current price: £125.47 - I paid: £107
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    Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB 2.5 inch Solid State Drive - Black
    
    RRP: £94.99 - Current price: £94.30 - I paid: £86.69
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    Current price: £119.99 - I paid: £110
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    Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) 3200 MHz DDR4 Memory Kit - Red
    
    RRP: £439.99 - Current price: £318.36 - I paid: £208
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    RRP: £418.99 - Current price: £287.00 - I paid: £308
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    Note: the ASUS gaming board has some awesome BIOS overclocking GUI and some apps you can install as well to switch up modes, beginner to advanced. I had this up at 4.5Ghz when I was playing about once with a few clicks. Someone invested could prob get a little more out of it.
    
    
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>Which is something you clearly don't have since you are arguing that a prebuilt is better.

Being cheeky, are we?

>Send me a link to a prebuilt GAMING rig that is cheaper than a partlist with similar specs, lets say with a gtx 980.

Okay...

I just went to the HP business outlet website and I found a PC tower with Win8Pro (~$130), an intel core i7-4770 (~$370), and 500 GB HDD (~$50), 4 GB ram (~$40), a DVD drive (~$20), a business type tower case (~$20), a PSU you'll need to replace ($0), and no dedicated graphics card. I'm sure there are other components in that mix you'll re-use as well, but I'm not going to actually open the spec sheet.

These components individually add up to $670. The tower is being sold for $499. That means you'll save a minimum of $170 when starting your build with this pre-built.

The cost of your gtx980 is about $650 on a good day. Its a pretty neat card, but any rig it comes preloaded on is going to be overpriced gamer shit. So, the cost of building the above tower with that card is $670+$60 PSU+$650 GPU = $1380. The cost of buying and retrofitting is $499+$60 PSU+$650 GPU = $1209. That is a 12% discount.

Of course, that isn't a huge savings, but it is still a pretty good start for 10 minutes of looking. The reason you save money is because the PC gamer market has a premium markup: Buyers are willing to pay not only for good hardware, but for the best. The pre-built gaming rigs are marked up 30%-40%, and the gamer specific parts are also marked up 30%-40%. If you buy a business type computer, you'll be paying a lesser markup for the included components. That's why all of my computers have been workstation type models. When you buy laptops, look for models marketed to graphics designers. Business stuff and overstock is simply cheaper.

Looking for some guidance on a cooling setup for my new build:

Here are the components:

Board: MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T2FWCYG/

Case: Corsair Crystal X570
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LE0ZKR2/

GPU: EVGA 2080TI FTW3 Ultra (air-cooled)
https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-11g-p4-2487-kr/p/1FT-001K-003E4

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SXMZLP9/

What cooling setup would you recommend? Do I need to get a fan controller?

The case comes with 3 x 120mm fans, but I'd like to replace them with Corsair 120mm RGB fans for added control over the lighting.

I was considering a 6 x 120mm setup (3 fans up front, 2 top, 1 rear) but not sure if the motherboard can support that many fans (does the fan from the included CPU-cooler count toward the total?)... or if that's even an ideal setup.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated ❤️❤️❤️

Thank you!

EDIT: Here are the possible fan configurations for the case, but I'm not sure what's the optimal configuration and what parts I'd need to wire them to the mobo

Professional PC builder/technician here. I monitor the market's prices all day, every day.

If you want a temporary and affordable upgrade, your motherboard is running on the AM2 socket. Check your motherboard's model number (Usually in between the PCI slots) and look up CPU compatibility. Assuming you're not running some crappy E-Machine, your socket shouldn't be integrated, and you can pick up something like an AMD Athlon X4 and have a significant boost in power.

If you're looking to fully upgrade, pick up an LGA1150 motherboard. If you want quality and don't want to completely break your bank, go with MSI. They're an awesome mix between affordability and features. For a processor, most i3s on that socket are pretty damn powerful, and cheap. 120 bucks will buy you enough power to do -anything- that 450 you have there will need. If you want long-term, pick up an i5, about 220 bucks will take you miles away from the CPU you have now. The i7 is endgame, it's worth it if you can afford it, but not necessary by any means.

Do not waste your time picking up any motherboard older than an LGA1150. They're the same price as the older LGA1155s, unless you're buying used. Don't buy used mobos, more often than not you'll regret it.

The last thing to consider is your power supply. You're making a serious upgrade with a new processor and mobo, and you need to take power into consideration. Since you seen new to this, Let's make it simple. Google "Power Supply Wattage Calculator" and type in your specs. Go 150 watts above that, spend a lot of money on it and get something nice. Your PSU is your computer's heatbeat, you don't want it failing and killing everything else you have. Buy a nice one the first time, and it will last years and years. Try and save 25 bucks by going off-brand and lower watt, suffer possible thousands of dollars in damage depending on what you have in there.

Edit: I forgot to mention, You're going to be stepping up from DDR2 to DDR3 ram. Don't go too crazy on ram, it's all pretty similar on the base levels. Corsair makes some nice sticks, Patriot does fine and affordable but you really need to look up compatibility with it, and Crucial makes some nice stuff that's affordable. If I were to build a low level affordable PC today, my baseline would sit here:

CPU: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-4130-FCLGA-Processor-BX80646I34130/dp/B00EUUKVXM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397850929&sr=8-1&keywords=i3

Mobo: http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Motherboard-Motherboards-B85-G41-MATE/dp/B00D12OASW/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1397851005&sr=1-2&keywords=lga1150

RAM: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-1333MHz-KHX1333C9D3B1K2-8G/dp/B004DDI0IE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1397851050&sr=1-1&keywords=DDR3+RAM

PSU: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Bronze-Certified-Supply/dp/B008RJZQSW/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1397851110&sr=1-2&keywords=power+supply

For the sake of maintaining a cheap build, you can use the heatsink that comes with the processor. If you're feeling moderately fancy, just grab something cheap like this, they work great.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Contact-Heatpipes-RR-T4-18PK-R1/dp/B00BSKY1M4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1397851211&sr=1-1&keywords=LGA+1150+heatsink

Re-use the optical drive from your old PC, re-use the fans. If you need cables, use monoprice.com

Honestly I'd go for a pentium G4560 for the described use, an i5 is overkill.

In any case I wouldn't recommend the Ryzen here as they have no integrated graphics, so you have to buy a cheap GPU to take care of the display, which makes it less worth it.

So I'd go for something like this which is plenty powerful for office use, very small, and includes a nice 1080p 24" IPS monitor:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor | €66.35 @ Amazon France
Motherboard | MSI - B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard | €99.99 @ Amazon France
Memory | Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | €59.99 @ Amazon France
Memory | Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | €59.99 @ Amazon France
Storage | Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | €91.30 @ Amazon France
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | €48.90 @ Amazon France
Case | Cooler Master - Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case | €46.90 @ Amazon France
Power Supply | be quiet! - Pure Power 10 CM 400W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | €62.99 @ Amazon France
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full 32/64-bit | €49.90 @ Amazon France
Other| Samsung 24" 1080p IPS monitor| €133.00
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | €719.31
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-20 23:04 CEST+0200 |

But if you prefer the core i5 it is possible if you go for this one which is pretty cheap (total 810€). The rest is compatible. You can also downsize the RAM and SSD sizes which are pretty overkill as well, if you want to lower the price tag

OK here's my current status. Thanks very much to everyone that is helping me with this :) Currently the whole thing is from Amazon and is sitting at $1,142.57 before shipping.

• GIGABYTE B450 I AORUS PRO WiFi Our starting point. Purely because Tom's liked it.
  
• AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Same.
  
• Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Windforce 8G Graphics Card Because the 2080 from Toms seems overpowered for what I want/need. As u/Overload_inc suggested it might be worth me stepping down to the 2060 and using the extra cash to buy a correctly matched monitor? My current one is 10 years old and I'm guessing therefore not cool.
  
• MyDigitalSSD BPX Pro 512gig SSD The price difference makes it seem like a no brainer to go M.2 on the SSD. Could be convinced to go 1TB though this model got on Tom's best list for good longevity.
  
• Patriot Viper 4 Series Extreme Performance DDR4 16GB (2 X 8GB) 3200MHz Kit Purely because it has no lights on it. I did not dive into caring about timing stats or anything like that. Would be happy to fiddle with this more.
  
• Seasonic FOCUS Plus 650 Gold SSR-650FX 650W Didn't google. Straight from Toms. Given that I downgraded the video card it may be that 650 is too much?
  
• NZXT H500 – Compact ATX Mid-Tower Case because it looks fine and can get it prime from amazon.

Ok couple things:

• Real good motherboard choice, Z370 is the way to go
  
• Cooler: I'm a shill but the Noctua NH D15 is champ, just gotta get over the fan colour. My hack is absolutely quiet
  
• Samsung Drive: Ditch it, firmware doesn't play nicely causing random stutters and delayed boot times(this is all NVMe Samsung drives, not just the 970 Evo Plus). Can get same performance from a Sabrent Rocket or for workhorse drive grab a WD SN750. Oh look at that, got you a 1TB drive for the price of a 512GB Samsung(Amazon)
  
• CPU is really tight, if possible try to go for an i5. You're right at the edge of getting out of the #LowlyQuadCoreLyfe (love you i7 6700k but christ I can't wait to upgrade). i5 9400f is a real good deal(wait a hot second, found the 9400F for $140 USD. I see no reason to grab the i3). Main issue with going for 9th gen is it will need a BIOS update so Z390 might be a better idea. Don't worry about no iGPU, setting the boardID to iMacPro1,1 will get better performance out of the RX 580 compared to the UHD630

Its pretty tight but this would certainly be an upgrade. You can sell you're i3 6100 2nd hand on ebay for around £60. This gives you a total of £160.

With that you could upgrade to the i5 6400 2.7 Ghz. Which comes in at £159

However if you could save an extra £20 you could get the i5 6500 3.2 GHz which, due to the increased performance of 2 more cores over the i3 6100 and being 500 MHz faster than the i5 6400, would be a pretty nice upgrade that should last a while. Providing you are mainly gaming you aren't planning on content creation like YT/Twitch.

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Finally, after all these reviews, i'm going to buy these pieces and build my masterpiece-wannabe.

I would like to thanks /u/Raffles7683 for his dedicated, nice and smart help ! Also, thanks to /u/DIK-FUK and /u/golli123.

That's it, the final configuration, which is 2€ cheaper than the first one. WHAT A SAVE. But it's all the way better. I finally picked a I7-6700k as a CPU since nobody seems to know at which point a I5-6600k will bottleneck the GTX 1080, even with a 4.5 Ghz overclock. The debate is running litteraly everywhere and no one has the same point of view. So... I guess i can throw 100€ by the window to be sure and to overlock a i7 to 4.4 Ghz.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

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CPU |Intel Core i7-6700K | €325.79 - Amazon.it
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | €34.99 - Amazon.it
Motherboard | Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | €109.61 - Amazon.fr
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | €126.04 - Amazon.it
Storage | Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | €74.00 - Amazon.es
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | €53.44 - Amazon.fr
Video Card | KFA2 GeForce GTX 1080 EXOC 8GB Video Card | €560.00 - French shop
Case | Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case | €76.32 - Amazon.de
Power Supply | Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | €78.99 - Amazon.es
Wireless Network Adapter | Asus PCE-AC56 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter | €48.00 - Amazon.de
Monitor | Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor | €699.90 - French shop
| Total | €2187.08



The CPU has been edited according to /u/Raffles7683's review and /u/DIK-FUK's build suggest. And updated, because no one knows what is a bottleneck, in real world.
The RAM / SSD has been edited according to /u/Raffles7683's review, again.
* The case has been edited according to /u/golli123's review


I will provide some news in the future with, probably, in build photos :)

Hey so I think most people missed the responses above from the actual person looking to buy this...

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1. He is purely looking for a gaming rig (60+ fps at 1080p) with no mention of productivity workload.
   
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2. He is not/will not be overclocking (sorry AMD).
   
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3. He actually goes on to state he would PREFER an Intel setup with onboard WiFi.
   
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4. He wants a future proof GPU, which sadly isn't a thing unless you drop big bucks and drive that "shiny new car" off the lot only to have it's resale cut in half a year or two later.
   
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5. He is in India so Microcenter deals are off the table.
   
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   All this being said, I feel a lot of good recommends were brought up. The GTX 1660ti is great value for a GDDR6 entry point typically in the $260 range while I've personally used the non-ti variant $210 segment and it smokes 1080p.
   
   Newegg has the MSI 1660 variant after 10% promo and $15 MIR it's only $200...
   
   https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-gtx-1660-armor-6g-oc/p/N82E16814137402
   
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   As for CPU, Intel 9400f offers 6 cores which will avoid any GPU bottlenecks for $149 on Amazon, despite the fact I abhor their website.
   
   https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-9400F-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07MRCGQQ4
   
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   When it comes to the motherboard you can always cut corners when not overclocking but why? Might as well grab a decent board in the $100 range with a nice recent z370/z390 chipset that had a good feature set. There is so much personal preference here but like the ASRock for $149 solely for the wifi requirement...
   
   https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157852
   
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   After taxes this puts you under your max $550. Personally I would suggest upgrading your SSD to a m.2 NVME drive which your board has 2x slots running at the full 32Gbps. You can pick up a nice Intel 256GB stick for $45 which hits 3210/1315 Read/Write speeds.
   
   https://www.newegg.com/p/0D9-002V-00655
   
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   Good luck!

Sure, I'll play. I built my system last year, but it still stands up pretty well I think. Hope you don't mind if I don't do one of them fancy tables like others.

Case: Corsair Graphite Series Steel Silver 600T Mid-Tower

Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K Quad-Core Processor 3.5 GHz

Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler H100i

Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1866 MHZ

Power: KingWin Mach 1 1000 Watt

Monitor: BenQ High Performance Gaming XL2720T 27-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor

Stereoscopic 3D: NVIDIA 3D Vision 2 Wireless Glasses Kit

And to top it off...

Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX690 4096MB GDDR5 512bit Dual GPU

Currently running an OEM copy of Windows 7 64bit.

I would take a picture, but honestly my desk is kind of a mess, plus there's not much to see. I haven't gone out of my way to make it pretty, as it's just me who ever gets to see it.

An i5 6400 at $188, MSI H110m PRO-VD plus at $51, and a Corsair Vengeance 8GB stick at $57 (all items may include tax) will be just within reach if you are able to spend a little bit more. They should give decent performance with the 960 2GB as well as offer a decent upgrade path. To add, the 6000 series, while one generation behind, is almost the same chip as the 7000 series equivalents, so you save money and get almost the same performance.

You could also go with an i3 6100 at ~$100 ($85 savings), but that makes for a more expensive upgrade path since it's a dual core single thread CPU, or you can get an i5 6500 for a little more than the 6400.

1 stick of 8GB ram leaves you room for another stick for 16GB instead of a 16GB kit down the road with 2x4GB should you want more (get the same one if you care about dual channel). These items should all have prime shipping at the prices I listed.

The only caveat to a motherboard upgrade is that Windows will deactivate as it affiliates with motherboards, but you shouldn't feel guilty for using a tool to reactivate in this case. MS support might even give you another through chat if you want to go that route.

Gimme a sec and I'll link to Amazon my initial recommendations.


Intel Boxed Core I5-6400 FC-LGA14C 2.70 Ghz 6 M Processor Cache 4 LGA 1151 BX80662I56400 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010T6CG7E Go to the price list and there should be a prime seller with 100% at $183.

MSI Computer DIMM LGA 1151 Motherboards H110M PRO-VD PLUS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HTEA0HC the seller at this page should be the best deal atm.

Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz C16 Memory Kit, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ARHBBPS This is probably around the cheapest 8GB DDR4 that can be had at the moment. You can shop around for better prices though.

"By name and by marketing (and original MSRP), the i5 CPU is most comparable to the R5 CPUs. The R5 2600’s current $160 price-point makes it a less direct comparison, and the 2600X, which would perform about where an overclocked 2600 performs, is about $220. This is also cheaper, but still closer to compare. Even closer is the R7 2700, which is $270 normally (or ~$250 during current sales). This is the closest comparison.

We would favor an i7-8700K if you must go Intel – like for systems with the highest refresh rate possible – while staying below the price of the i9-9900K. We would favor an R7 2700 in heavily-threaded applications or games which are more dependent upon threads than the mean (e.g. Far Cry 5). The 9600K is still often superior in raw framerate, but does suffer frametime consistency hits in games like Far Cry 5. In those instances, it would be a worse experience insofar as its consistency of frame delivery. In the other games we tested, the 9600K holds a lead in gaming performance. It also suffers in Blender, the side-effect of fewer cores, making the R7 a better choice for anyone legitimately using the heavy multithreading in tile-based rendering applications. If you’re just gaming, the 9600K is often better – but not always, and that inconsistency is the key to our inability to offer a firm recommendation. We’d favor an i7-8700K (if budget can stretch) for pure gaming workloads, but the i5-9600K and R7 2700 choice requires more nuance. For anyone working with Blender in addition to gaming, the R7 2700 is a better choice. For pure gaming, the 9600K is “better” in most the games we tested, but that frametime inconsistency in some games causes us to hesitate.

The i5 remains hard to justify, even with its two-core increase. Intel remains the best option for gaming-only builds in the i7 class, but struggles to prove consistent value in the i5 class. That’s a problem – if the value is inconsistent, it is sometimes better to opt for a more consistent (if sometimes weaker) alternative, if only because the experience is then predictable."

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That same GN article, basically saying "don't buy the i5"

I don't know if this is necessarily a "Simple Question," but I'm always nervous to make posts, so hopefully this doesn't cross the rules, if so I'm sorry. Also if I need to add more info, please let me know, I'm new to this.

I think I want to upgrade my CPU and GPU.

My current setup:

GPU: XFX PCI-Express Video Card R7-360P-2SF5

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K Black Edition CPU Quad Core FM2+ 3700Mhz 95W 4MB AD860KXBJABOX

I don't know if the rest of the stuff matters but here it is:

Case+PSU: ROSEWILL Micro ATX Mini Tower Computer Case with PSU, Steel Computer Case + 400w Power Supply, Front I/O: 2x USB 2.0 and Audio In/Out And 90mm Rear Case Fan (R363-M)

HDD: WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD10EZEX

Motherboard: Gigabyte AMD FM2+ A68H SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 mATX ATX DDR3 2133 NA Motherboards GA-F2A68HM-H
Ram: Ballistix Sport 8GB Single DDR3 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) UDIMM 240-Pin Memory - BLS8G3D1609DS1S00

And I do want to say, that currently, it works great already. I just can hardly run the new Injustice 2 Beta, and a few other games, and now that I have the money, I'm looking to upgrade. I've been looking for hours, and I just want to make certain that these parts will work still, and that they are significantly worth it.

These are the parts I'm looking into:

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 GAMING, 2GB GDDR5, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC) Graphics Card 02G-P4-6150-KR

CPU:

Either:

AMD Ryzen 3 1200 Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler (YD1200BBAEBOX)

or

AMD Ryzen 5 1400 Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler (YD1400BBAEBOX)

So please, help me out, let me know if you need more info. Either CPU is in my price range, but I don't know if the 5 is worth the extra money compared to the 3. I believe everything will work with my computer. I think I want the 5, just sorta want confirmation, y'know.

I found these for £657. It is just a little over budget but it will be truly worth it.

CPU: Intel i5 4570
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CO8TA4I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

GPU: GeForce GTX 750Ti
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ICUGOP0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-H
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IS69CFW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8gb
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004CRSM4I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_9?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Case: Gigabyte GZ-Ma03
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HLERWMM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Storage: 1TB Western Digital Blue
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0088PUEPK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3FTJ2BGLE278D

Monitor: BenQ 21.5 Inch Monitor 1080p
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B7ZE0G2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

OS: Windows 8.1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FRAE7MU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Power Supply: EVGA 500w PSU
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00GP5Y6J0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

DVD Drive: Samsung 24x
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CC6YN6M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_10?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Keyboard: Logitech K120
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003ZY9Z40/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Mouse: Logitech B100
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AZKNPZC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

There are no external speakers provided in the build so you would have to use the Monitor's speakers through the HDMI. But this is an easy £30 upgrade in the future. The processor is a Haswell i5 and can be upgraded to an i7 Haswell with no compatibility issues. The GPU is also easily upgradable in the future.

The PC should run games much, much better than the prebuilt one you showed me. Again, building a PC is very easy to do if you watch a guide on the internet. It is comparable to LEGO pieces with a bit of wiring thrown in to make it more fun.

I have nothing against Intel, great performers especially in games. But you could have bought ryzens capable of gaming and streaming simultaneously at retail for 40-80$ cheaper per cpu.... retail price. As in you could have ordered more powerful/efficient processors off of amazon/newegg at retail pricing. 8 core 16 thread - https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B41717Z?ref_=bl_dp_s_mw_2528920011 capable of gaming and streaming simultaneously with ease for 189$ retail... plus cheaper motherboards. I get people wanting Intel for the few extra frames in a home setting. But as a business - you’re wasting money spending that much on 4/6 core cpus with only marginally better gaming performance and significantly less overall horsepower. You could seriously have bought all the ryzen cpus you need at retail and saved yourself probably upwards of 10 grand or more. Which would have significantly decreased your time running at a loss. No joke - I would send the lot back and order amd. It’s really just flat out a poor business decision not to and you should absolutely quit listening to whoever suggested these intels were a good idea for a business. Good luck tho - I hope it goes well.

(And just to clarify again - I’m not bashing Intel here. It’s just simply a bad business decision to spend this much more on something meant to make money. As a business he should be getting the best parts he can for the price. Which is hands down amd - no contest)

Edit: here’s an example - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wqshnH that’s with a unnecessarily nice NZXT case - 25 amd computers would cost around 22-23k after tax...saving you roughly 50% of what you spent... and you’d get better computers.

Can we get a thesis/summary out of this? I skimmed it and really could not find the overarching message of your post.

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based on your title you think the 5500m is going to help them out? I strongly disagree. AMD has had decent mid/low end GPUs for quite a while now. they have had APUs. they are in consoles. the 5500m is another iteration of the same master plan. I'm not sure why you expect it will be different with the 5500m. OEMs are definitely waiting for Nvidia's 7nm before launching major new platforms around it. It also appears GPP is going very well/strong behind the curtains. IMO MSI was throwing AMD a bone by announcing a single product around it . . . ACER? Lenovo? HP? Dell? literally anyone else? crickets . . . a single design win is a major sign of weakness, not strength. I am well aware we will get more design wins for the 5500m. It is a competitive GPU that will likely replace the 560x and 580 in builds, and may even get some sales over current nvidia counterparts. in the short term it will help AMD. But it is not going to create anything new IMO. Nvidia hasn't even made any announcements or price cuts or anything . . . tells you how much of a threat they consider it. Huang hasn't even insulted it or questioned AMD's execution. It's not even on their radar, and IMO it shouldn't be. Nvidia is largely competing with itself in mobile GPUs. This is not a 1650 killer, it is a 1650 competitor that is too little too late. OEMs are not going to adopt it when they already have mature platforms already offering the same performance (1650, 1660 and 1660 ti) . . .

The only advantage AMD has is maybe offering Zen (3750H) CPUs with it . . . That is the singular angle that could be important and make it more successful (and IMO what will eventually make AMD GPUs successful, along with future iterations of Navi and better resources for RTG).

Also, there is very very likely no supply shortage for 7nm wafers. puting in more orders for 3900x take time. especially if all the other dies are already allocated for other products (as im sure they are). which means AMD has the following flow timeline for new CPUs to reach market:

day1: launch productDay7: 3900x shortage

Day14: 3900X still sold out. decide to increase production of 3900x. But all other dies are already allocated. So put in more orders for Zen2 dies/wafers

day45: Zen 2 wafers from TSMC are done, do their QA/QCs and are shipped off for assembly

day60: 3900x products are packed and shipped to retailers

day67: retailers put products on shelves. built up demand keeps products sold out until supply can catch up.

Day80-90: Supply finally catches up to demand. Hopefully AMD didn't over/undershoot estimates on demand. So they don't have another over/undersupply. if they do, they get to repeate most (if not all) steps in this process.

And considering the 3900x was launched in early july. and we are now seeing it staying in stock regularly at amazon? mindfactory? about 90 days later? This is completely normal.

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3900X-24-Thread-Processor/dp/B07SXMZLP9/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=3900x&qid=1570486531&sr=8-1

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There was no shortage of 7nm wafers. there were just supply issues with certain SKUs that needed increasing due to AMD's demand forecast being too low.

This (1500x) is their best quadcore with full 2CCX's worth of 16MB L3 cache https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Cooler-YD150XBBAEBOX/dp/B06XKVNRSM/r

But I'm sure the hexacore 1600 is their best midrange CPU (and best value at under $220). It's basically a higher end CPU at midrange price.

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Cooler-YD1600BBAEBOX/dp/B06XNRQHG4/

Whether the Ryzen 5 1600x qualifies as mid range or high end might depend on your income figure. I'd consider it either. $270 at Amazon right now.
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-1600X-Processor-YD160XBCAEWOF/dp/B06XKWT7GD

Did a Build Update with mainly newer components

More Pictures here: https://imgur.com/a/fPfI72X

Pardon the picture quality I don't know how to use the camera outside of auto.

All of the taobao parts were purchased via superbuy and arrived in roughly 3 weeks.

|Build|Part|Comments|
|:-|:-|:-|
|CPU|Ryzen 7 3700x @ -0.05v offset|Run's sub 90 in cbr20 @ 3.8-4.0ghz Scoring ~4800 Link|
|Cooler|NOCTUA NH-L9i chromax.Black|Link Mounted with Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut. This cooler also needs dedicated am4 mounting. Link|
|Motherboard|ASUS ROG Strix B450-I|pretty board with 2 m.2 slots. Yes this did need a bios update to accept the 3700x. Link|
|Memory|Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 16GB 3733MHz @ cl16|It's rated at cl17 used dram calculator to tighten timings up and stripped the housing cause heat spreaders were touching case. Link|
|GPU|MSI GTX 1070 Aero ITX|Undervolted to 850mv running 1850mhz +500 Memory. Link|
|Power Supply|500w PSU with noctua fan mod from taobao|I've had power supply for about a year now. Link Personally if you don't wanna deal with taobao psu get the fsp 500w platinum and wire in your own pcie 8pin.|
|Case|K39 v1|Panels are thin but once built super solid. Been replaced by the v2 with a 47mm cpu cooler height. this one only has 40mm. Here's the V2 Link Aliexpress Link|
|Keyboard|KBDFan's 5° Degree 60% Keyboard|Holy Panda and Silent Sky switches Lubed with tribosys 3204 and kryotox blend 2 respectively. JTK Cola Keycap set. Silent Sky Purchased from /u/hbheroinbob|

The original build https://builds.gg/builds/true-red-nano-3900

Well, for $3K, i would just build an entirely new system.... you can get a Ryzen 7 3700x and an ASUS TUF x570 for just over $500. But, at you would also need new RAM... I would suggest this set up

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $329.00 @ B&H
Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard | $199.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $129.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $658.98
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-22 09:19 EDT-0400 |

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Now, if you want an entirely new build... you can easily get a great build for less than $1500

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $329.00 @ B&H
Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard | $199.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $129.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $94.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card | $419.99 @ Amazon
Case | NZXT H500 ATX Mid Tower Case | $69.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $96.95 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1340.90
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-22 09:17 EDT-0400 |

A third party seller with a Prime Agreement (Prime Seller) can supply Amazon with product, and it is then sold under the Amazon Prime label. While Amazon does hold product, it doesn't always mean that Amazon is the "owner" of the Product.

At times you will find Company X Limited (not going to mention any companies, but think reputable large companies) are the *actual* seller - but unless there's more than one supplier to Amazon for a given Product, the option to view the actual suppliers isn't available.

However, in this instance, the actual provider is Amazon - which is a touch depressing, given that it's nearly 50GBP more than the other suppliers, and Amazon doesn't actually have the product in stock either.

In this case the *actual* supplier can be viewed by selecting another Ryzen 3000 SKU such as the Ryzen 5 3600, and then on the page for other offers, change back to the Ryzen 9 3900X - see below:

See: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B07SXMZLP9/ref=olp_twister_child?ie=UTF8&mv_size_name=6&mv_style_name=0

Maybe Amazon is sourcing the R9 3900X from places like Silicon Lottery who sell for higher prices after pre-selection - and as a result the product is more expensive; though sadly I fear that Amazon might just be profiteering in this case, on the fact that the R9 3900X is heavily in demand with supply being limited from Amazon.

Also, the product is on an "Expedited Delivery" setting, which normally means that Amazon has purchased (or ordered) from a third-party supplier, and will normally get the third-party to ship directly to the customer (albeit in Amazon branded packaging where possible). It saves getting the product to Amazon's warehouses, and then out to the customer. From my experience this happens when Amazon is having trouble getting an item and meeting demand for the item, they will almost outsource the shipping to a vendor who apparently has or has access to the product in question.

Reminds me of the mining crisis for a few years back, when GPUs were not only impossible to find, but inflated in their pricing due to a lack of product and high demand.

Just my thoughts on this matter. But yeah, disappointing action by Amazon. Not what I expected, and sadly it might be that they are exploiting their essential monopoly on online purchasing. (Yes I know there are other suppliers - I myself used the other suppliers, but Amazon normally have the most compelling deals for almost anything!).

Ideally people should not buy from Amazon at this inflated price, and instead pre-order from other vendors so as to let Amazon know that this type of activity is not acceptable. However, this is the nature of a free market economy. Supply and demand govern price. Sad and I'm not a fan of it, but it is what it is.

Peace :)

Edit: Also, on Amazon when third-party vendors sell their product, there are fees - different fees for Prime verified/approved sellers and different for those not Prime - you can see with the R5 3600 the price from Amazon Prime is the best at 199.99 - prices from the other vendors - CCL, Scan etc are much higher - however, on thier own websites the prices are far more sensible.

Okay now I'm done. Peace :)

Nice board. It looks like the best processor you can get for that board is a Phenom II hexacore like this 1090T. That board has plenty of power to safely overclock a 6 core processor though from my experience they're pretty stout at stock with turbo core.

Just finished assembling my first build with the help of a friend and my MB is giving me some beep codes that don't seem to correspond to any that are listed on the website (for some reason, the manual doesn't have them listed).

Whenever I turn the computer on, it will proceed to emitt 5 LONG beeps then shut off and boot up again just to beep 5 more times. I am 99% sure it is long beeps because they last just over a second or so each. There is just no way those are short beeps. I have already tried booting without ram and with only 1 of the 2 sticks of ram each. I made sure they were seated properly also. I am just completely out of ideas and the internet seems to have no help.

Here are some of my specs:
MB: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128843

CPU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZZJ1P0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

RAM: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013H7Q86C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Video Card: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IPVSGEC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

PSU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K85X2AW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

People don't know how to read the title lmao. C14S is the best air cooler for the NCase.

If you get:

• x570 mobo
  
• NCase
  
• 3700x
  
• ram
  
• C14S
  
• SF600
  
• case fans
  
  You will prolly only be left with like $300ish for the gpu. Maybe a 1660 ti or 2060 super? Might be ok with a SF450 instead of the SF600 depending on your gpu, that would save a bit. Could also opt to get a lower mobo since x570's main draw is the pcie 4.
  
  Might be able to find better deals come cyber monday/black friday, but buying used would prolly help save more and you wouldn't need to wait for a sale.

Hey, since your budget is around $1350, I can't say much but its best for you to choose your own keyboard, mouse, and headphones because they're personal equipment meaning one might not work best for you if it doesn't suit you comfortably. So, for now, I'm just gonna give you a PC build w/ monitor + OS only.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor | $237.59 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master - Hyper 212 LED 66.3 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler | $14.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $89.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $80.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Seagate - NAS HDD 1TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive | $42.49 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card | $509.99 @ Amazon
Case | DIYPC - J180-W ATX Mid Tower Case | $23.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $75.88 @ OutletPC
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $89.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor | BenQ - GL2460HM 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor | $117.58 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1355.37
| Mail-in rebates | -$72.00
| Total | $1283.37
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-29 14:06 EDT-0400 |

EDIT: I forgot to add that some parts MIGHT not be available for international shipping like newegg. So if most of newegg products are unavailable in the Philippines, use amazon as an alternate. I just found out the GTX 1070 Ti I listed is not available in the Philippines. Buy these instead:

GTX 1070 Ti: https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-1070-GAMING-GV-N107TGAMING-8GD/dp/B077P9HX2V/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1525025384&sr=1-4&keywords=gtx+1070+ti - same price as above

CPU Cooler: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212L-16PR-R1-Direct-Contact/dp/B01KBXKP8W/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1525025838&sr=1-1&keywords=Cooler+Master+-+Hyper+212+LED+66.3+CFM+Rifle+Bearing+CPU+Cooler - $24.99

CPU: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-8600K-Processor-Unlocked-BX80684i58600K/dp/B0759FKH8K/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1525025985&sr=1-1&keywords=i5-8600k - $238.99

Motherboard: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Z370-GAMING-PLUS-Motherboard/dp/B075GSVHGP/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1525026069&sr=1-1&keywords=MSI+-+Z370+GAMING+PLUS+ATX+LGA1151+Motherboard - $109.99

RAM: https://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Viper-Elite-2800MHz-PVE48G280C6KRD/dp/B0196AWR1Y/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1525026139&sr=1-2&keywords=Patriot+-+Viper+Elite+8GB+%282+x+4GB%29+DDR4-2400+Memory - $84.99

Case: https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Versa-Computer-Chassis-CA-1B2-00M1NN-00/dp/B00J0NZ5N0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1525026260&sr=1-1&keywords=ThermalTake%2BH21&th=1 - $38.58

Buy those as an alternate (for newegg) and you're good to go! It shouldn't make such a price difference.

TL;DR: Currently have i3-6100. Looking at i5-6500 and i5-7500. Would like an upgrade recommendation so I can run games like Tarkov and PubG.

I'm very sad to say, I built this rig in late 2016, and I still feel like I don't know what the hell I'm doing. I got by with a lot of help from redditors and Youtube videos so I have no idea what's good and what isn't.

Currently, I have an i3-6100. I skimped on some parts due to being on a budget. In addition to upgrading my RAM by 8GB (Currently have 8GB) I'm hoping to upgrade my CPU. I also have an EVGA GTX 950 in there.

If it matters This is my motherboard

So what I'm looking for is an LGA 1151 slot, right?

Here is the first option

Here is the second option

What confuses me, is the second one is one generation newer than the first one, right? Why are they the same price? I'm also told if I go above a certain gen I'd have to upgrade my BIOS? I'd like to avoid that if possible. I've also read that in reality, an i5 is plenty sufficient for games, and i7 isn't worth the extra money unless you're video editing/rendering, etc. Lastly, the stock cooler that comes with the cpu should suffice, yes? I don't care about overclocking.

I'm looking to smoothly run Tarkov, Hunt Showdown, PubG, things like that. I don't care about 4k or 1440p or anything really. Ideally I'd like to at least keep it to 60fps though. Smooth gameplay is primarily what I'm after.

I'm also open to AMD and such if there's a comparable option that's more cost-effective, the intel i-series was just a bit easier for me to tell the difference between the different tiers (3, 5, 7)

I know it's a bit verbose, so thank you for reading.

Get Windows 8. It's way faster and the learning curve is not too bad at all.

Intel 4690 i5 + Asus H97 if you're not gonna overclock.

Intel 4690k i5 + Asus z97-A if you're gonna overclock.

Of course, the mobo's are entirely up to you, depending on what features you want, but those are pretty popular ones.

As for the HDD, I'd really recommend taking advantage of the low SSD prices and getting a cheap 120 GB Samsung 840 EVO and pairing that with the existing hard drive you have. Installing Windows 8 on this SSD should give you a noticeable performance boost. Then again, the SSD is up to you.

To save more money you can buy the cheapest amd ryzen apu 200GE

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-athlon-200ge

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-4-Thread-Processor-Graphics-YD200GC6FBBOX/dp/B07HJWVJDN

AMD 200GE APU 10 PC Games Tested - Awesome $55 CPU!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHLH03Jv0cI

only 56 usd....good and super cheap

for ram buy 16gb dual channel used version is ok

for ryzen more ram is better

The Arc is a decent bit faster than the HyperX but whatever.

You could get a faster SSD like the 850 EVO but if you are happy with the HyperX.

You could move the GPU up to the XFX 390x - there's a Gigabyte 390x for less but it's not great - not a great return on investment but a step up.

You could move up the motherboard to a more feature full H170/B150 board or you could get an overclockable 4690k build for ~£700.

The first motherboard you listed is just a larger H110 board, I would swap chipset to B150/H170/Z170 if you actually want more features from the motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor | £129.00
Motherboard | MSI H110M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | £46.49 @ Ebuyer
Memory | Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | £23.70 @ Ebuyer
Storage | A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | £46.79 @ Novatech
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury 4GB NITRO Video Card | £429.98 @ Novatech
Case | Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case |-
Power Supply | XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | £63.95 @ Amazon UK
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | £739.91
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-01 17:06 BST+0100 |

Having thought about it for a bit this is probably what I'd do, a little over budget but a lot more powerful. I found a PSU for less, the pricing on UK PCPartpicker is screwed up so the first to links for it 404ed but you can get it on Amazon for this price and you can get the CPU on Amazon for that price here. No HDD but a substantially more powerful GPU which will fairly easily handle most any game maxed out and will easily drive frame rates north of 60fps or resolutions north of 1080p.

I love people making up numbers. Want some real numbers?

www.amazon.c0m/MSI-Intel-CrossFire-Motherboard-PRO/dp/B01MR31OZ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505678956&sr=8-1&keywords=msi+z270-a

www.amazon.c0m/Intel-BX80677I57400-Core-Desktop-Processors/dp/B01MSTDS3N/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1505678947&sr=1-3&keywords=i5+7400

www.ebay.c0m/itm/Lite-On-LET-64M2S-Dell-028GC8-Internal-SSD-64GB-SATA-Drive-F-W-PQD8-no-frame-/122648948388?epid=1582800016&hash=item1c8e726ea4:g:TX4AAOSwOMdZTZtc

Note: I have ".com" with ".c0m" to avoid the auto moderator.

That's 195+114+23 (Ssd price)=332, not 440. You can find cases for basically free, I've found some people just don't want anymore for $1. You can find the 980 for $175 if you look for actually good deals. I'm just going to repurpose the rest of your numbers for RAM and a psu. 195+114+23+110+175+30+1=648. And you do realize I'm just trying to make a system that works right now right? It would be easy to get a better psu later.

Not sure about this being much of a deal.

Motherboard
CPU
RAM

Total is £490; the RAM price was over £200 on amazon so maybe the prices were just elevated a good while ago or they're moving old stock, either way it's been sub £100 all round the web for months now which is where I assume the bulk of the "30% off" comes from. Convenient amazon price history link here

I guess it comes pre-assembled and thus presumably ready to work without flashing the bios for a £30 premium.

3 year warranty is nice too I guess.

I didn't shop around at all though so you can probably find better deals than just double checking the component costs vs amazon.

Hope I didn't miss anything very obvious.

I'd like the opinion of my peers here:

I'm upgrading the CPU cooler from the stock cooler so I can take advantage of my i5-7500K (I can't find the K anywhere, but I'm 99% sure it is) and actually overclock the thing so I can actually get 60fps on Assassin's Creed Odyssey. I only get about 45-60fps in that game. I've never overclocked before, so that will be a journey in it of itself.

It's between the Hyper 212 Evo and the be quiet! Dark Rock 4. I have them both up in tabs and am trying to decide. I imagine they run comparably, but the Dark Rock 4 matches my mostly black with some white build better. The Dark Rock 4 is also the recommended cooler by Tom's Hardware, which I like to use as a resource.

I also looked at the Cooler Master MasterAir MA410M but that might be too much RGB for me. Only RGB thing in my build is on my motherboard and it's just like a pulsating red light.

A true first world problem deciding if an all-black cooler is worth an extra $50. But what do you think?

Also, here's the build otherwise:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor | $229.89 @ B&H
Motherboard | ASRock - Z270 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $63.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $149.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $128.90 @ OutletPC
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card |-
Case | NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case |-
Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $149.89 @ OutletPC

Edit: I'm second guessing if I can even overclock this CPU. I swear the GeForce Experience thing told me my CPU was an i5-7500K, but those don't seem to exist and the amazon page doesn't tell me if I can overclock. I need to go home and get in front of it and double check.

See if you can upgrade to 6600k chip. I have it and works awesome. £40 extra but if you are using this for gaming - go for it!!
As for monitors, i am a big fan of the ultra wide monitors, i know LG and Samsung have some nice ones. I would also recommend getting an HDD to go along with your SSD. 240GB is not enough. I'm struggling with 1TB.

Links:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BIWNBSQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2QGBOKU3LBTSN
-https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BFH1FL4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-BX80662I56600K-Core-i5-6600K-LGA1151/dp/B010T6DCBS/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480537026&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=i5+4660k

CPU

• Ryzen 1400: link
  
  Mobo
  
  
• Asrock AB350 Pro4: link
  
  Ram
  
  
• Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB DDR4-3000: link
  
  SSD
  
  
• Kingston A400 120Gb SSD: link
  
  HDD
  
  
• WD Blue 1TB HDD: link
  
  GPU
  
  
• Zotac GTX 1070 Mini (There are no Gtx 1070s or 1060s on Amazon in stock. I can personally attest to Newegg's quality as I bought all my PC parts from them. Fast shipping and arrived without any damage.): link
  
  PSU
  
  
• Corsair 550w Semi-Modular PSU: link
  
  Total Cost: 945.90
  
  
  Build will run all modern games at 1080p or 1440p. I went with amazon for all parts except for the GPU because there are none in stock on Amazon. 8gb of ram is fine for gaming. 120gb SSD for OS/programs and 1TB HDD for mass storage. Semi modular power supply for easy cable management. Feel free to ask me any questions.
  
  
  Edit: Formatting.
  
  
  
  
  

My motherboard in current PC is fried, so it's time for some upgrades. My main question is, can I reuse my current CPU with an upgraded motherboard, RAM, and GPU? It's an Intel Core i5 i5-4570 3.20 GHz Processor.

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Amazon link to current CPU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CO8TA4I/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=

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Looking at this motherboard: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157818&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

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This RAM: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J27CmG/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2a2666c16

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This GPU: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NJM323/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-video-card-geforce-gtx-1070-armor-8g-oc

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Will all these components work together?​

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I have a good 550W power supply, brand new as I just purchased it in trouble shooting current build. Also have two SSDs that I think are in pretty good shape.

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Any help much appreciated!

Not the biggest sale by any means, but I guess it's better than nothing. Ebates is at 1% for Newegg.ca so you can save a tiny bit there too.

$393.74 total after taxes and free shipping. Amazon.ca reduced the price today too, but you're paying both taxes there.

Waiting for big savings on that 2700X or an eBay coupon (Though the 2700X is mysteriously not listed in the Newegg Canada eBay store).

the dude has 34 ratings as a seller...... his name may be "AMD Authorized Re-seller" but it does seem sketchy. only 34 reviews? I literally just canceled mine. While AMAZON sent me the email that its in stock, the fact that it isn't more reputable makes me say nope. I canceled as well.

EDIT: Also look at what the rating ares, they are GARBAGE. "I just started using the knife but it seems to work great" WHAT? what does that have to do with CPU's and technology.... the rest are just as laughable.

EDIT: note my motherboard i ordered is from amazon services inc, legit.

EDIT: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3900X-24-Thread-Processor/dp/B07SXMZLP9/ref=sr_1_17?keywords=3900x&qid=1562620368&s=electronics&sr=1-17#customerReviews

This is the official link on amazon. Now all of a sudden its "unavailable" again.... even though i just ordered and then canceled because the seller was sketchy.

Very roughly speaking I would say 2 cores each to gaming, windows 7, plex(1-3 users), and everything else. Especially if you use LXC for nextcloud, plex, and the sandboxes. Also, this depends on your gaming :)

(For LXC, look at using proxmox or straight ubuntu for your hypervisor. If Ubuntu, you can game on the hypervisor. Or, as with proxmox, passthru your GPU to a KVM machine for your daily driver/gaming.)

But consider your usual CPU load. A low-use windows 7 machine wont use but 10-30% of 2 cores unless you do some heavy lifting. And if your plex machine is for yourself, or often for yourself, then you won't be gaming and transcoding as much at the same time.

All this is to say that I bet an 8-core threadripper would be enough. I would say a 12-core threadripper would give you plenty of room for expansion. Oddly, they're the same price on amazon right now.

An 8-core Ryzen 7 would work as well but with fewer pcie lanes and other good server features.

For RAM...maybe 6 for gaming, 6 for windows, 2 each for plex, file server, nextcloud and 1 per each sandbox container. Probably 32 GB to be safe. +16GB if using VMs rather than containers, +16GB if use is heavier or if you want to use ZFS.

upHere Technology All-in-One High... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757KZ6JW?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

EVGA 850 B3, 80+ Bronze 850W,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071YB4RNM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EI5YZSA?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Intel Core i5-8600K Desktop... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0759FKH8K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

GIGABYTE H370 AORUS Gaming 3 WiFi... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CCWBV2P?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

In Win 101 Pink ATX Mid Tower... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079GF86KB?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Samsung 1tb m. 2 ssd evo 970 nvme $170

Asus 1660 super $230

Total 1104

A little more then you want to spend but for a full new build you won't regret it.

Hell if you are close enough I'll even build it for you lol

Finished product

https://youtu.be/uzNfVQpgmOQ

The CPU should be fine, as seen on this video: http://youtu.be/vMqaQESngh0
..the cpu can run some intensive games. Allthough if you do want a serius upgrade, I can recomend the I5-3770K, for 335$, this cpu will max out anything you throw at it, not only that, but the K on it means it is unlocked, so you can overclock it to higher speeds.

I5-3770K on Amazon: http://amzn.com/B007SZ0EOW

Also what I forgot in the build, was a cooler for the CPU, the most efficent cpu out there is very cheap and cools extremely well, it's called Hyper 212 EVO and is only 35$. This cooler will be very usefull when you get into overclocking, because it will keep it at around 70 degrees even when you have it turned up high.

Hyper 212 EVO on Amazon: http://amzn.com/B005O65JXI

Also, I forgot to mention, the GPU I wrote is really really strong and can max out anything at 1080p, except maybe ridiculous games like Crysis 3.

What do you think about the Wraith Spire instead of Prism?

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B41717Z?ref_=bl_dp_s_web_2528920011

I know MicroCenter has the deal but I can buy the mobo and cpu with this fan separately on amazon for a few dollars cheaper and save a trip to micro center in the process. I looked up the two fans and it seemed like the Spire was even better than the Prism, I just might lose out on the LEDs

edit: immediately after replying I realized that the link I sent is the 2700 and not the 2700x, is that a big difference? Idk what the x means but I'm about to do some research, could that CPU work well with the same build?

Right, but what I’m hinting at is it’s pretty much the same price on amazon if you’d go take a look

Ryzen 7 2700 with 2 free games on Amazon for $209

I am looking to upgrade my old PC, but I am a bit out of the loop when it comes to parts. I did a bit of research and came up with the following build. I would really appreciate feedback on the following:

• Motherboard MSI B450 Tomahawk https://www.ebuyer.com/854868-msi-b450-tomahawk-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-b450-tomahawk
  
• AMD Ryzen 7 2700 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07B41717Z/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?smid=A2IZIWNXZQ7JSL&psc=1
  
• Vulcan T-Force 32GB DDR4 https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team-group-vulcan-t-force-32gb-2x16gb-ddr4-pc4-24000c16-3000mhz-dual-channel-kit-grey-tlgd432g3-my-08p-tg.html
  
• Samsung 970 EVO 1TB V-NAND M.2 SSD https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-V-NAND-Express-Solid-State/dp/B07CGJNLBB?th=1
  
• Sapphire Radeon RX VEGA 56 Pulse 8GB https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-56-pulse-8gb-hbm2-pci-express-graphics-card-11276-02-40g-gx-38f-sp.html
  
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  I will re-use my old case, and would like to re-use my old PSU if possible. I am currently using a Corsair GS800.
  
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  Thank you in advance!

So what would be some good CPU's to base a build on?

The i7-6700K @ 4.0 ghz for LGA1151 architecture -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B010T6DQTQ or i5 alternative

The i7-4790k @ 4.0 ghz for LGA 1150 architecture -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00KPRWAX8 or i5 alternative

and the i7-2600K @3.4 ghz for LGA 1155 architecture -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004FA8NOQ (Can't be bothered to find an i5 alternative).

I'd love to see a proper break down of FPS for difference CPUs

Edit - see a great response from /u/randonneur16

It's definitely cheaper than my other hobbies, flight simming and photography. Diverting my attention to vaping actually ended up saving me a bunch of cash.

In fact... DON'T take up flight simming

You first need this OR this

Then you're all like, wtf? Why doesn't it look anything like this

Then you buy one of these and realize that FSX doesn't support hyper threading since it's a POS software from 2006 when Microsoft stopped developing it. So you actually need one of these, overclocked of course.

Then you need realistic controls, your keyboard and mouse just won't do so you get a cheap joystick which is ok for the first few months, till you come to the conclusion that what you really need is a HOTAS controller.

Which is about the time you buy TrackIR, which tracks your head movement for added "realism"

This is of course precisely when you realize that you would rather fly general aviation aircrafts, like Cessnas and Boeings and military aviation is just not right for you, and you get a different controller, something like this.

That lasts you all of two months before you're sick and tired of the plasticky build quality and erroneous "null" zone so you go and buy one of these.

Now that you're comfortable spending money on your "hobby" you get into serious money territory and go ahead and buy instrumentation. Your setup now looks something like this

By this time you would have spent roughly $5000 or more on hardware and a whole bunch of software plug-ins and add-ons, because FSX by itself it's pretty basic.

You're now completely committed and have dreams of being a real pilot, you start to think about how you will justify buying a properly kitted out sim and actually "charge" people money to come sim at your home. And you buy something like this which of course comes without a yoke which you have to buy separately. And then add an overhead panel.

By now you are running FSX on multiple fast computers and have connected your iPad and other devices to your setup.

There are folks who have spent many hundreds of thousands of dollars on this "hobby".

Stick to vaping. It's just a whole lot cheaper.

A SIX year old processor/mobo????? SIX!

$15 more will get you a latest gen i5-6400!!!!!!
with significantly better performance.


Also I dont know why he needs an aftermarket cooler. $14 that could be better spent elsewhere.

(Obviously OP will need a compatible mobo as well which can easily be got for less than the price of the 6 YEAR OLD ONE you suggested. And of course he'll need DDR4 ram, not DDR3, which can also be had for less than the DDR3 kit youve selected.)

The Ryzen Threadripper 1920X is on sale for $200 these days, which is a steal for 12 cores. It might be an interesting option for this use case.

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Threadripper-24-thread-Processor-YD192XA8AEWOF/dp/B074CBJHCT

It also may have more reliable ECC support - this may come down to the motherboard manufacturers. I've heard spotty things about the mainstream Ryzen CPUs. The chips can do it, but it's not advertised and not really official. Might find something useful here: https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/verrified-list-of-threadripper-x399-motherboards-that-function-in-ecc-mode.19436/

Best thing would be to find a motherboard that someone else has confirmed will work with ECC.

It's due to stock flow though, my go to retailers all sold out, amazon is one of the few left with any stock but probably due to the fact they can pull stock from their arse if need be with being completely global at this point.

Edit: they are actually now out of stock completely.

CCL out of stock

Overclockers out of stock

Scan out of stock

Amazon out of stock

Those are the big ones I usually go to, decent companies and good customer support and RMA policies for the most part, all out. Definitely a supply issue.

Excuse me for my lack of knowledge, but something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-4130-FCLGA-Processor-BX80646I34130/dp/B00EUUKVXM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1408368754&sr=1-1&keywords=i3+core+processor and also, if I change to the I3, will I need to change the other stuff. I mainly used all the stuff from the video as a base to go off of, and as a good guide to building my pc. If I had the exact stuff he had, then I could build it easier right? Also do you suggest a different motherboard?

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80677I57500-Core-Desktop-Processors/dp/B01MZZJ1P0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485666881&sr=8-1&keywords=i5-7500

i5-7500 for $200 if you can find good deals on it. Motherboards: Cheapest you can find.

You can go i5-6500 and an h110 mobo too actually. That will save a good chunk of change.

In the future you might kick yourself for going less than an i5 though. More and more games demand 4 real cores...

Truthfully, a skylake i3-6100 and h110 mobo would be plenty, for overwatch and KSP and 1080p. That would be well below your budget. Consider that option too.

As /u/Jonathinater points out, the R5 1400 isn't actually available at £78 (it would be a very good bargain if it were though), and when you follow the amazon link it costs £107.

At this point, the R5 1600 is only an extra £15 at £121 (at the time of writing) on Amazon.

By getting a cheaper (yet still reliable PSU) and only 8GB of RAM for starters, that sorta all fits in the £500 budget.

I also picked a better SSD because the A400 isn't very good. Also I went with a 240GB drive, 120GB fills awfully quick.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor | £121.00
Motherboard | Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | £61.97 @ Amazon UK
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | £46.38 @ Aria PC
Storage | Crucial - BX500 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | £29.17 @ CCL Computers
Storage | Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | £34.50 @ Amazon UK
Video Card | ASRock - Radeon RX 570 8 GB Phantom Gaming X Video Card | £125.63 @ More Computers
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case | £37.97 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply | Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | £54.97 @ Amazon UK
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | £511.59
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-04 23:54 BST+0100 |

I’m already at a couple
Hundred more dollars than I wanted to be, but it may be better to just buy it now than to upgrade later. Is it the ryzen 7 2700? AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Processor with Wraith Spire LED Cooler - YD2700BBAFBOX https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B41717Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Cz31Ab95CQAX6


Also is by build not compatible? It said it was last night then this morning when I went to look at what I still need to order it says possible incompatibilities.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HWvGcY

Do I need to return my motherboard and case in order for the ryzen CPU to fit? I can get a full size rig it doesn’t have to have a microATX I was judging using that to save some money.

Edit
Urgh, just read the secondary HDD requirement :/ how much storage does he need? And could you just go for one large SSD?
End of edit

Let's knock $300 dollars out of the park...

AsRock Deskmini A300 is $139.99 on Amazon right now and includes case, mobo and psu. (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QSCCRC9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_ZW3GDbK3M0043)

200GE Athlon will do fine for his requirements at $57.01 and comes with a cooler that will fit in the Deskmini (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HJWVJDN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_V13GDbHW29M1N)

Single 8gb 2400mhz So-Dimm ram for $32.99 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07NPFB6GS/ref=sspa_mw_detail_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

120gb m.2 seems like more than enough for his use case so here's one for $21.99 (https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-A400-120G-SATA-Internal/dp/B07P22T3VD/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=128gb+ssd+m.2&qid=1568898494&s=gateway&sr=8-5)

$251.98 so almost 50 dollars profit for you and you can get it all from Amazon to keep it nice and simple.

Les PC-builders de /r/france, c'est ma première config tour : vous en pensez quoi / quelles conneries ai-je fait ?

(il me faut encore un clavier, si vous avez des conseils)

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | Intel Core i7-6700k 4GHz | 362,61 € @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Artic Freezer i11 | 21,99 € @ Amazon France
Motherboard | Asus Z170 Pro Gaming | 148,71 € @ Amazon France
Memory | Corsair 16GB (2 x 8Go) DDR4-2400 Memory | 135,99 € @ Amazon France
Storage | Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | 142,06 € @ Amazon France
Storage | Western Digital Blue 2To 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | 69,90 € @ Amazon France
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8Go G1 | 451,14 € @ Amazon France
Case | Fractal Design Core 2500 Black | 64,89 € @ Amazon France
Power Supply | FSP S750W 80+ | 75,59 € @ Amazon France
OS | W10 Famille| 99,99 € @ Amazon France
| Prix amazon |
| Total | 1572,87 €

(Ping /u/Prostberg car tu as l'air de t'y connaître)

Don't worry, the processor I'm recommending is considered the best for gaming (the only reason to get an i7 is for media e.g. video rendering). The CPU + mobo is $313, and there is a $25 rebate on the motherboard.

CPU

Mobo

Swapping out these two parts is relatively simple, albeit a little time consuming. Just be sure to look over some guides while you wait for the items to arrive, and if you have any questions feel free to ask. One important note, you must reinstall Windows after you replace the motherboard.

I know it's been a month but just wanted to give my input. I have same processor running at 4.5GHz, GTX 770, and 8GB DDR3, so fairly comparable since it isn't GPU bound. I get like 10-15 in crowded areas (which sucks because pretty much everything that isn't a dungeon is a crowded area). Lots of audio stuttering and hitches in fps. I recommend upgrading that cpu and ram to current gen processor and DDR4. I mean now you can get 4x the threads for $265. I know upgrading cpu sucks because you need a new mb and RAM, but really to take advantage of that 970 I think its your best option, you probably really cpu bottlenecked in new games for frame rate.

That “buy processor from amazon and then return it” option seems like an amazing solution! Would this processor work as well for my purposes? https://www.amazon.com/AMD-4-Thread-Processor-Graphics-YD200GC6FBBOX/dp/B07HJWVJDN/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543086156&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=am4+athlon+200ge&dpPl=1&dpID=31N0MaT5blL&ref=plSrch

Awesome, thanks. Just to be positive, you mean this, right?

Get crucial Ram instead, heat sinks on ram provides 0 advantage over a naked dimm, and get a 500gb Hard drive.
With the money you've now saved, buy this CPU instead

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Core-i5-7400-QuadCore-Cache/dp/B01MSTDS3N/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1492456884&sr=1-2&keywords=Intel+i5

The i5 would allow for future upgradabillity without concerns of a bottleneck, GPU wise. IT would also be much better then the Pentinum. Besides that it's all solid

/u/spamsince /u/Cerelius_BT

So I have taken into consideration both of your suggestions, along with reconsidering my choice of case and storage, and used PC Part Picker to build a setup with the price I am happy with.


Part | Item | Price
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CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | $32.00
Motherboard | ASUS ATX DDR3 1800 Motherboards H170-PLUS D3 | $117.91
CPU | Intel Boxed Core I5-6400 | $242.99
Graphics Card | XFX Radeon RX 480 | $349.99
RAM | Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB Kit (2x8GB) | $87.99
PSU | FirePower Technology Firepower ZT Series 550W 80Plus Bronze | $77.81
HDD | 2 x WD Blue 2TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive | $95.50 each
OS Drive | Corsair Force Series LE SSD, SATA 6Gbps 480GB | $142.49
Case | Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-02 Mid Tower | $74.99
Optical Drive | LG Internal UH12NS30 BD-ROM | $56.99

Just want to run it by you guys to see if the parts are compatible.

Thanks again for all your help.

This will play any games hands down 4k 120FPS High. The only other thing you could add is a 2nd graphics card.


CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X

• Price (USD): $499
  
  
• Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SXMZLP9/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=buildcoresx-20&linkId=201bb8ca47d86d91a12034e8fae8ad87&language=en_US
  
  
  GPU 1: ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
  
  
• Price (USD): $1299
  
  
• Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce-Overclocked-Graphics-ROG-STRIX-RTX-2080-O11G/dp/B07HY6QWXN/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=2080+ti&qid=1562612885&s=gateway&sr=8-3&linkCode=ll1&tag=buildcoresx-20&linkId=75ec84d62e8d72eef99ede8331e4e862&language=en_US
  
  
  Motherboard: Asus Prime X570-Pro
  
  
• Price (USD): $235
  
  
• Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Prime-X570-Pro-Ryzen-Motherboard/dp/B07SW925DQ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=%22x570%22&qid=1562636196&s=gateway&sr=8-6&linkCode=ll1&tag=buildcoresx-20&linkId=da6afc3ed17feedf80035db1274148c7&language=en_US
  
  
  RAM: (2x16GB) G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200
  
  
• Price (USD): $129
  
  
• Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-PC4-25600-Platform-F4-3200C16D-32GVK/dp/B0171GQR0C/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1545863022&sr=8-4&keywords=ripjaws+v++3200&linkCode=ll1&tag=buildcoresx-20&linkId=b61eb93afaa490f220097f16db540720&language=en_US
  
  
  Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB
  
  
• Price (USD): $444
  
  
• Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-Plus-MZ-V7S500B/dp/B07MFZXR1B/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=J4QGAQFKYBRJJ82A3D0B&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=buildcoresx-20&linkId=c77eb8e85f6edbaf551cef298dc4c2d0&language=en_US
  
  
  Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G+
  
  
• Price (USD): $166
  
  
• Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-GP-0750-X1/dp/B0797D5WHH/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=PEP7Z3C5HF19WFYSN0HK&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=buildcoresx-20&linkId=405642eecfd11aa468e20660f7ef6a15&language=en_US
  
  
  Case: Corsair Crystal 570X RGB
  
  
• Price (USD): $184
  
  
• Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Crystal-Mid-Tower-Tempered-Glass/dp/B01LE0ZKR2/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1545864117&sr=1-2&keywords=570x&linkCode=ll1&tag=buildcoresx-20&linkId=b0e577b9d678738de2e5b96c512eaded&language=en_US
  
  
  CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i PLATINUM RGB
  
  
• Price (USD): $124
  
  
• Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-H100i-PLATINUM-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B07JWB5BSN/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=YBFR43AYSKT5YZAXXJ9D&linkCode=ll1&tag=buildcoresx-20&linkId=aa0dc77772148209da5b35fdb6f38cdd&language=en_US
  
  
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AM3 is an old socket and got replaced pretty quickly by AM3+, which unfortunately broke backwards-compatibility. You're not going to get a new processor for this board - your only real options are used.

You could try a six-core Phenom like [the 1090t] (https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-1090T-Processor-HDT90ZFBGRBOX/dp/B003FVI2KQ) for reasonably cheap, but honestly for $300 you could (and probly should) just replace the motherboard, CPU and RAM. An i5 6500 is $190, an H110 mobo is $40-$50, and 8GB of DDR4 is $40 - that's almost exactly your budget, and makes future upgrades easier as well.

The best CPU at that price point for your socket is a i5-4690.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4690-Processor-Cache-BX80646I54690/dp/B00JST2QEW

Not sure what your PSU is but keep that in mind.

Good luck!

Thinking about my first build, how's this look?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | i5-6600K 3.5GHz | £200 ish
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | £26.99 @ Novatech
Motherboard | MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | £114.13 @ Amazon UK
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | £37.99 @ Novatech
Storage | Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | £55.00 @ Amazon UK
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | £41.56 @ Amazon UK
Video Card | MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card | £269.98 @ Amazon UK
Case | NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case | £58.14 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply | EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | £99.98 @ Novatech
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | £887.90
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-13 16:28 GMT+0000 |


My main concern is the GPU, is this the best brand of R9 390? Is this even the best GPU in the price range?

>Would you say it’s a fairly good price at £600?

No, lol. You're overpaying:

• i5-7400 @3GHz - £140
  
• 8GB DDR4 @2400MHz - £79
  
• 1TB HDD @7200RPM - £19
  
• Windows 10 Home - £120
  
• GTX 1050 Ti - £102
  
• Total: £460.
  
  
  ____
  
  
  
  > building it yourself would only save you about £50-£60.
  
  /u/whosdr, I did a quick hunt. It would save them around £140. I assume a bit more, if they look harder than I did. Although, this doesn't include the case. So, maybe add another £20-30 onto the total?

R5. Pretty close to the i5 in gaming but smashes it in productivity.

Edit: Eh fuck it, full comparison.

i5 7600k - $210. Doesn't come with a stock cooler, can commonly reach overclocks of 4.7-4.8 GHz, 4 Cores / 4 Threads.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor | $209.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler | $34.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI - Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $99.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $67.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $412.76
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 00:59 EDT-0400 |

R5 1600 - $210. Comes with a pretty beefy stock cooler, can commonly reach overclocks of 3.8-3.9 GHz, 6 Cores / 12 Threads.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor | $209.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard | $99.49 @ SuperBiiz
Memory | G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $74.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $384.47
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 01:02 EDT-0400 |

Here is a brief comparison between them while OC'd to 3.9 and 4.5

Here is another comparison, this time at 4.0 and 5.0 respectively

Here is a third comparison. 3.8 and 4.7

Draw your own conclusions.

Productivity is a no brainer. 6 Cores and 12 Threads for $210, triple the threads of the 7600k. I'm not sure where to get specific benchmarks for these types of applications, do your own research on that. Anything that takes advantage of lots of cores will do better on the 1600, as far as I'm aware.

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At the lower price point - 1400 @ $160 vs i5-7400 @ $185 / i3-7100 @ $160

...No comparison. Intel loses the clock speed advantage while AMD retains the core advantage. There is absolutely no point getting an Intel CPU that isn't the i5-7600k or i7-7700k

This would last you a good while.
This is the same thing, but with more cores for programs that are better optimized for them.

I didn't realize this at first but I think I need uATX. My current board is 9.6x9.6. This is on Amazon for $79. The 1060 is pretty big with 2 fans, will it fit??
B250
And you're right it's only $5 to upgrade to the i5-7500

It was back up, don't know for how long. posted link but it has changed price again already, so removed it. posting here

https://www.amazon.ca/AMD-Threadripper-24-thread-Processor-YD192XA8AEWOF/dp/B074CBJHCT/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1539503578&sr=8-2&keywords=threadripper

Managed to place an order before it changed again https://imgur.com/a/Eq2X6ul Store page listed fulfilled by amazon, so no 3rd party shenanigans.

this, you will definitely see a way bigger performance boost upgrading that gpu. I'd reccomend a 1660 ti. $270 brand new prime ready on amazon, and you can find them in r/buildapcsales and r/hardwareswap all the time for way cheaper. Later on id recommend upgrading your cpu to this https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-9400F-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07MRCGQQ4 . the i5 9400f is a budget monster.

Problems with Ram/ Asus Strix B350/ 1600x/Gtx 1070

Just the other day I upgraded to a 1600x and Some new ram.
Everything works fine, except the ram is stuck at 1064MHz when it should be running at 2666MHz. I've tried changing the values in the Bios/ updating the bios. However, I've had zero success. Any help would be appreciated.

Mobo https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072C6VPZJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Ram https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0123ZC6CO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Cpu https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XKWT7GD/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You can get this CPU which according to HP's specification page is the best processor that will be compatible. I'm not sure if the 95w TDP limit is because of the motherboard or the power supply but somebody here may know. If it is the PSU you could maybe get a better one as you'll be putting a better PSU in to be running that 660 anyway...

EDIT: Sorry that CPU is 125w This one is 95w..

i7 4770k is what I was referring to. However, it's pretty expensive, which is why I also suggested the i5 4670k. Both of these are based on the new Haswell architecture for Intel so they'll output a lot of power. As for GPUs, it seems the new GTX 750 TI could do a great job. It's relatively inexpensive and has a lot of horsepower for only $150. I'm not big on mobos, so I'm not going to be much help there.

Then it's probably doable. Suggestion: Since you're already going for a nice graphics card why not try going for a CPU like this https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-9400F-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07MRCGQQ4. The 9400F is still a powerful CPU the only difference is that it doesn't have an integrated GPU. I use this in my gaming computer and it runs nicely. Then you can use the savings to go for 16GB of ram.

Sorry for the very late response.

Go for a pcie gen 4 ssd then, they are as fast as 8gb/s. Bear in mind bigger drives have bigger cache although im not sure thats important for you.
The msi armor is bad but not dead card bad so if you find it for 120 bucks or less pick it up. Indeed 570 is good enough.

Perhaps find somewhere else to get that ram, actually i got a proposition for you since you dont need cpu speed but do care about lots of ram https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Threadripper-24-thread-Processor-YD192XA8AEWOF/dp/B074CBJHCT

You can get motherboards with 8 slots and that 1920x has the same thread count as the 3900x, just slower threads

It should work okay but keep in mind more than just click speed (the Ghz). You've chosen a dual core processors. Most recommended specs now are quad core. Like Fallout 4, it recommends a quad core i5 (Sandy Bridge from 2012) as a minimum spec. Your chosen i3 has a higher clock speed but 2 less cores. It should be able to handle it but moving forward a lot of games are becoming more CPU demanding and using more than single cores. If you can swing it you could get this and never need to worry about upgrading the CPU of the build. it'll fit with your MoBo

Well, my issue is that he's taking Amazon links which may not always be the lowest price. When actually putting effort to save money by looking at other retailers

Furthermore some of the choices make no logical sense if you were to only shop from Amazon and were deciding what hardware to get.

For example the 7400 makes no logical sense as a 7500 can be had for slightly cheaper.

7400
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80677I57500-Core-Desktop-Processors/dp/B01MZZJ1P0/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1491782463&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=7400

7500
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80677I57500-Core-Desktop-Processors/dp/B01MZZJ1P0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491783332&sr=8-1&keywords=7500+cpu

Now just imagine how much we could potentially get superior hardware for cheaper if we actually used other retailers.

Also in my mind that mouse and keyboard gives absolutely no value to me. You couldn't pay me to use them. So likely most people who would buy this and are serious about gaming or simply quality products would likely have to buy a mouse and keyboard all over again.

Lastly unless Thermaltake has made progress I was unaware of with their PSUs (feel free to chime in if anyone here is willing to correct me) I wouldn't ever use them for a PSU option.

edit changed the links from me directly going to Amazon and not through his links as I have the feeling he is hiding referals in all of them without informing of such. Anyone with that forehead is not trustworthy.

edit 2 Seems like he also advertises G2A and another similar site so clearly I was right about my judgement about him. I don't even trust him that this wasn't a advertised video at this point.

Since this build is on such a strict budget, I would do one thing. I would use unactivated windows but use the money saved to get a better processor such as i5 7500. This would add about 40 dollars to the price, but would be worth it.

Edit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MZZJ1P0

i5:

> SPEED RANK: 173rd / 1176

i3:

> SPEED RANK: 115th / 1176

> Slightly faster effective speed. +9%

> Better value. +16%

That doesn't look like "clock rate". It seems more hinting towards "overall speed" with those "effective speed" and "speed rank" labels.

i3 is priced at around $160:
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Generation-FCLGA1151-Processor-BX80677I37350K/dp/B01NCEJN24

i5 is priced around $180:
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80677I57400-Core-Desktop-Processors/dp/B01MSTDS3N

I ran an AMD Phenom II x6 1090t for a looong time and it was pretty cheap, it's not as great as newer processors but if you can find an used one, would be an improvement at least.

This one (but you can find a better price)

Or if your motherboard is AM3/AM3+ compatible instead of just AM3, you can go for a FX-8300 for the same cost as the 1090t

Or if you're willing to spend a bit more, get a new motherboard with am4 slot and get a ryzen 5 1400 (the 1600 is worth it but if you're limited by budget... you can also wait for the ryzen 3 to be released, which will be cheaper, but would still require a am4 slot motherboard)

Still depends on your specific workload.The 3600 is a solid choice but overall I would recommend the R7s especially the 2700 for only $186. And if your budget allows get the 3700x it's definitely worth it . Again check the benchmarks for your specific workload.

Yeah, I've been only able to find cores with the 1155 socket on Amazon (although I could try r/hardwareswap too...)

According to Amazon, anyway, a 3770K would be around $350 used.
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-3770K-Quad-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B007SZ0EOW

A 3570K is about $200 used (ignoring first offer)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B007SZ0E1K/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

And a 2500K is about $170 used.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004EBUXHQ/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1451273748&sr=1-1&keywords=i5+2500k&condition=used

So, I guess, which is the best option?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XKWT7GD/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1509673086&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=1600x

Here it is, it has 6 cores, its clocked pretty high, you can also overclock it, pretty good for gaming.

If you don't want to overclock and still want a solid quad core and motherboard, you could probably save some money and scale down a bit.

I would recommend at slightly cheaper 7500: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MZZJ1P0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493079388&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=intel+i5+cpu+7th+gen&dpPl=1&dpID=51XrkNI7q%2BL&ref=plSrch

It's a very similar CPU for 30 less and comes with the only CPU cooler you'd need and will also allow your 1070 to stretch its legs.

I'd also change the motherboard to a cheaper:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N4LCX2D/ref=pd_aw_sim_147_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9AKNKZ6TPFCK4CAMX5G1&dpPl=1&dpID=81TTTSvch5L

No need to spend twice as much on the one you picked that has the same features and only looks a little better.

ShopBLT is legit, but note the fine print:

>This item is ordered from the manufacturer as needed. After you place your order, we will order it from the manufacturer. When it arrives into our warehouse, usually within 15 business days, we will fill your order and ship it to you.

That's also the tray SKU. You probably want the retail boxed version. However, those shipments are not expected to begin arriving to ShopBLT's warehouses until at least the end of the month.

If you want to get a 3800X before then, your best bet is to set up a notification alert on Now In Stock. However, be aware that NIS appears to be linking to the wrong Amazon product page. This is the correct one.

Alternatively, you can just buy a 3700X right now with Prime two-day shipping. It's actually so similar to the 3800X that the price premium for the latter is not easy to justify.

Summarized:

• Yes to overclocking? 8600k ($240) + best affordable GPU
  
• No to overclocking? 8700 ($300) + best affordable GPU
  
  Do you plan on overclocking? The 8700k/8700 have higher frequencies out of the box compared to the 8600k, which is pretty much their only gaming advantage. But if you overclock the 8600k it will hit the same frequencies so that advantage disappears.
  
  The GTX 1070 will definitely hold up longer than the GTX 1060. But for current games, I would probably say it is overkill for 1080p... but you will be more future proofed.

I believe the best CPU your PC can upgrade to is something like this. I'm sure you can find it cheaper elsewhere online.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Processor-Skylake-5-6400-Turbo/dp/B010T6CG7E/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1458993436&sr=1-3&keywords=i5-6400 CPU from here. the (cover) part on the title got me a little worried.Would be damn funny if they shipped you just the cardboard.Ask them or buy it from PCPP.

Amazon got your back though

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/lg-monitor-22mp55hqp

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-mouse-sgm2002klon1

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/lg-optical-drive-uh12ns30 why do you need blue ray?Everything can be found on the internet.

For OS /u/twentyseven72 got you covered.If you do not want any of those option then you get OS from pcpp for full price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor | £143.00
Motherboard | MSI H110M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | £46.08 @ Dabs
Memory | Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | £25.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage | Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | £63.14 @ Amazon UK
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | £40.97 @ Dabs
Video Card | Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card | £249.95 @ Amazon UK
Case | BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case | £27.20 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply | EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | £44.37 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan | Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan | £5.99 @ Amazon UK
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | £646.69
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-26 12:11 GMT+0000 |

https://www.amazon.fr/AMD-Ryzen-1600X-Processeur-Socket/dp/B06XKWT7GD/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1493813402&sr=8-2&keywords=1600

Here's a 1600X for 234 euro.

https://www.amazon.fr/AMD-Ryzen-1600-Processeur-Ventilateur/dp/B06XNRQHG4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493813419&sr=8-1&keywords=1600

And here's a 1600 for 233 euro.

Enjoy your 1600(X) :) Seriously, definitely go 1600. You want 6 cores. Unless you plan to buy a new CPU within 1-2 years.

Had these in a PCPartPicker list, but the page just vanished. Here are the parts I had.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SXMZLPK?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y3CTQNT?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZG6YG1K?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GTG2T7L?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RF237B1?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZSI7Y3U?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-2tb/p/N82E16820167461?Item=N82E16820167461&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2fproduct%2f7MQG3C%2fintel-660p-series-2tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw020t8x1&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-ErxICKvfvZyOvPV60mxOtw
https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-11g-p4-2383-kr/p/N82E16814487401?Item=N82E16814487401&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2fproduct%2fxvCD4D%2fevga-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-11gb-xc-ultra-gaming-video-card-11g-p4-2383-kr&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-m4zbKUDsHpK4Fltu7Ftlcw

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074PGBGHW/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1&th=1

I feel like I’m missing on part that I needed to get on Newegg.

But yeah, if you wanna compare/complete this list while I’m flying today, I’d appreciate it

Shipped and sold by Amazon. Obviously not a "sale" price, but it's better than the gouging that the other sellers have been doing. Currently showing Tuesday (Prime) delivery so this would technically be considered a backorder but it's showing expected restock tommorow based on the buying choices page. I've been watching these like a hawk for myself so I hope this helps someone out!

Also on Amazon if you want to save on shipping

Or Newegg, also free shipping

E: except the exclusive price is actually 209... If you need one shipped refer to those links

Well an 8600k is $240 which sure, is t as good as $160 for a 2600 but for the increase you’ll get it’s probably worth it for your use case

I was thinking, and since AMD is the manufacturer and shipping person on the Amazon website:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SXMZLP9/?coliid=I2YWH100TKHCM8&colid=3V4BP796C6W8T&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

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This would probably mean that Amazon is going to be selling directly from AMD's own stockpile? I'm pretty sure this is what it means.

The computer is a bit dated. The CPU is very weak. You followed my instructions, but doing the msinfo32.exe method only shows the Graphics Card family rather than the exact graphics card, so I can't give an accurate assessment of performance. You have the recommended amount of RAM.

Unfortunately the AM3 socket CPUs are old. They still sell them on places like Amazon, but they are either absurdly overpriced or you would need to find a used one. These will make the cut however. If you are willing and able to upgrade your computer, otherwise you might be better off with a new computer.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003FVI2KQ
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003FVNC0Q

I can point you in the direction of some good graphics cards once you find your exact graphics card model. Look at stickers, use Google, backtrack orders, just whatever. Otherwise with that CPU it's not going to run the game well even on low settings.

This guy seems pretty great for its price https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B41717Z/ref=asc_df_B07B41717Z/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312727440900&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17945331565853306786&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007017&hvtargid=pla-440593883679&psc=1

Spain (all prices include 21% VAT)

Part | Amazon | PCComponentes
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1800X | 446€ | 529€
1700X | 363€ | 419€
1700 | 316€ | 316€
1600X | 250€ | 279€
1600 | 218€ | 225€
1500X | 203€ | 209€
1400 | 170€ | 179€
I only welected the one sold directly by amazon or managed by them, if you're willing to go with Amazon marketplace there's a 1800X for 432€ and a 1600X for 236€.

They seem to be pretty close to most of the european prices.

My question regarding the X version is what to pick when I already have a Corsair 280mm AIO.

Thank you so much for helping.
Would this be a good upgrade to the other processor?

Thanks! I found the same one but with another cooler $50 cheaper, is this cooler really that better or is it just for the RGB? Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B41717Z/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

edit: nevermind, it's the 2700 without the x, different CPU