Reddit mentions of WD Red 6TB NAS Internal Hard Drive - 5400 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, CMR, 64 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD60EFRX (Old Version)

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Desktop-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B00LO3KR96

With some clicking around I got here. About 10-15% under Amazon on this one item. Red NAS 6tb

http://www.amazon.com/Red-6TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B00LO3KR96

http://store.wdc.com/store/wdus/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/ThemeID.21986300/categoryID.65951300/subCategory.68038000/parid.13092500/catid.13094900/WD_Red

If you want something easy and capable, look for deals on the Lenovo TS140. Depending on your intended usage, you can get something very usable for $250.

For example, on this link the i3-4130 has a ~4700 Passmark that is capable of about 2 simultaneous 1080p transcoding streams. It has 4GB ECC memory so that's about the least amount of memory I would want for a server.

The Xeon E3-1246v3 CPU has about 10k Passmark. That's a badass home server! With 8 or 16GB ECC configurations for about $500-550, it's a steal. That would afford you an entire suite of server apps running without any performance issues all while transcoding up to 4 to 5 1080p streams.

EDIT: Note that you will need to buy storage and an OS (if you want Windows). I personally use Ubuntu.

• 6TB HGST NAS $270
  
• 6TB WD NAS $267

Shops near Al Ghubaiba Bus station are the cheapest, most parts is cheaper than Amazon and Newegg.

My cousin used to own computer shop in Abu Dhabi, and he bought most of his items and parts from there, some shops there have better prices than the official distributor because they get much lower price when buying big quantities.

Two days ago, I bought one 6TB WD RED drive for 1000 AED, which is lower than Amazon, Newegg and Gear-up.

Source: maths and simple searches?

First hit in ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/280685027465 - $47/(20*50G) = $0.047/G

Your price for USB thumb drive: $24/64G = $0.3750/G

First Google match for western digital red 6TB: http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-3-5-inch-IntelliPower-WD60EFRX/dp/B00LO3KR96 6TB Western Digital $288.49/6000G = $0.048/G

I used a different currency source for the prices the first time, but seems close enough.

> They aren't "total rip off", these are the "normal" prices except for the nonsense image created by providers that say "unlimited" and mean 1TB.

This.

Some people are completely deluded and still expecting 'unlimited' storage for $60 per year...

Prices are very reasonable.

See Google Drive pricing:

• 100 GB: $1.99 monthly / $19.99 annually
  
• 1 TB: $9.99 / $99.99
  
• 10 TB: $99 monthly
  
  If you would like o arrange that yourself - WD RED 6TB costs $206 and to have a reasonable redundancy you'll need at least three of them for every 6TB of data, that is $618 for 6TB, so $103 per 1TB annually for storage alone. Not mentioning infrastructure, electricity, know how and maintenance. Being fully aware that big guys are not buying drives this way - I still don't think they're making big bucks on cloud offers.
  
  Speculation mode ON
  
  I think that videos and images got a lot of added value to both Google and Amazon. Large data sets are key factors to success in that field. That is why Amazon will still let you keep unlimited images and Google still can handle loosing money on YT.
  
  Speculation mode OFF

Reall, anything? Dang. So just the current WD Reds should work?
Amazon: WD Red 6TB NAS Hard Drive - 5400 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD60EFRX

Also, your point is well taken about going for something larger, but my budget is fixed...and I am like 99% full on all volumes! :7)

Also, I'm as thrifty as the next guy, but by the time I fill up those new TBs, this device will be like eight years old -- and even I will be able to justify an upgrade by then.

I made some assumptions that you want a NAS and not an htpc that plays media but rather just hosts it.

This is sort of a tough one, If you're just looking for a nas there are commercial options available and windows 7 is not a great nas OS. Linux is much better for the sake of configurability and options. and its great free cant beat that.

with that being said you could go out and build a pc but i think a commercial solution would fit you better. simply because its easier... and if your business documents are important you're gonna want to raid

so i spent about 20 minutes trying to find the right hardware and then found this

http://www.amazon.com/Cloud-EX2-Diskless-High-performance-reliability/dp/B00I2P53NY/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1416612983&sr=1-5&keywords=nas

according to the description it comes with 8tb (two 4tb drives) in a defualt raid 1 which means that you have a total of 4tb of storage but both drives are a mirror of each other ie. if one fails the other is fully intact.

the only problem with this is that it doesnt allow for expansion.

what you could do is get the diskless version and then put two 6tb drives in it and be set for a while it is about $35 over your $650 budget though.

http://www.amazon.com/Cloud-EX2-Diskless-High-performance-reliability/dp/B00I2P53NY/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1416612983&sr=1-5&keywords=nas


http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LO3KR96/ref=twister_B008VQ8IKY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

You are looking at something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Synology-DS1815-Station-Network-Attached/dp/B00P3RPMEO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1495907881&sr=1-1&keywords=nas&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6792682011

with 8 of these :
https://www.amazon.com/Red-3TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B00LO3KR96/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1495907648&sr=8-2&keywords=wd%2Bred&th=1


that's 48Tb , 24 mirrored. And there are expansion modules if you want to expand later.

https://www.amazon.com/Synology-Expansion-Increasing-Capacity-DX513/dp/B009EMFXGG/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1495908341&sr=1-1&keywords=Synology+DX513


it has apps that you can use to mirror to cloud storage as well.

user friendly.

zfs replication. Put the hdd in the freenas box, add it as a volume to freenas, setup zfs replication from one volume to the other.. in the freenas docs the push/pull would be from the same host but to two different volumes.

• http://doc.freenas.org/index.php/Replication_Tasks
  
• http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17952_01/refman-5.0-en/ha-zfs-replication.html
  
• http://cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=984
  
  Why bother with having another piece of hardware and rsync, zfs replication you can replicate the entire volume and its dataset structure.
  
  I have one of these bad boys that I do zfs replication to.. Additionally I sync to crashplan.

nothing shows in logs except the kernel power thing when I push the reset button. nothing runs as far as I know and no scheduled tasks that are not default. hardware is the following:

server - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O19YMAK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
raid card - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GX35API?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
2x cpu - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NFNYPVE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
4x RAM - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MDZEJKM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
OS SSD - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NGBYUW4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
8x HDD - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LO3KR96?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

you help me fix this I'll throw you some money for sure lol... edit I've just enabled the driver verifier, maybe that'll cause BSOD instead?

you could get a HP N54l and buy 5x6TB drives putting them into RAID-Z2 would give you 18TB of storage.

Server ($200)

RAM ($170)

6TB Drives ($266)

If you want to save a few bucks I would go with 5TB drives. price goes down to $42.80/TB from $44.30/TB saving you $260 over 5 drives and only costing you 3TB of storage so you would have 15TB which I know is under your requirement.

Saw same deal on amazon thanks to camelcamelcamel.com...

https://www.amazon.com/Red-6TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B00LO3KR96

Well he's off on this one:

>10 TeraBytes (roughly same as brain) cost $1,000

You can get 24TB for just over $1,000

Lol! A 6 TB NAS drive costs $180 dollars. https://www.amazon.com/Red-6TB-NAS-Hard-Drive/dp/B00LO3KR96/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=6tb+drive&qid=1551362185&s=gateway&sr=8-5

1. Unless you already have purchased it I would not go for that SSD. Currently shows as 32GB? Expensive and small capacity. I really would suggest an SSD which a little higher capacity even if it's not NVMe such as this.
   
   
2. Are you going to be using this in a certain RAID set-up?
   
   
3. Going for 24/7 operation? If so they're a little more expensive but I would highly suggest NAS certified drives as in my experience they really are worth it if you want something that can be on nearly all the time without having to worry about it. 4 1TB drives cost you £138 currently, a 4TB NAS drive goes for around £110 or this
   
   Saying that I still suggest going for 6TB NAS drive as they're a little more expensive but better such as this WD NAS.
   
   Hope this helps!

It's funny you mention the 418j, that's what I was looking at as well lol. That or the 918+. That 5th bay would be nice, but I'm not sure I'd care to pay another $150 for it.

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I know this is probably an ignorant question, but I've never actually worked on the administrative side of NAS before. Can the drives within the enclosure be referenced individually, or do they show up as a single network entity? For example, if I wanted to use 3 bays for Plex storage, and a 4th for backup purposes that I directly manage myself, is that doable with an enclosure like that?

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Additionally, are there any particular HDD compatibility issues I should be aware of with Synology enclosures? For example, if I wanted to toss a few of these in there, should I expect any speed bumps? Am I also correct in assuming that, for these purposes, the impact of a larger HDD cache or anything above 5400 RPM would be nominal at best?

Hp mediasmart ex475 @ 5.5TB

It's aging and it's storage is now less than a single new HDD, however for a time it was the best i've ever used. I'll upgrade eventually, but I haven't found the right box yet.

> This is why I have 5 TB of storage at home.

That's, like, less than one hard drive today.

Everything powers up and I'm discovering the joy of the remote console through IPMI. Super cool.

I can't seem to get my WD Red drives to be recognized by the machine. It's my first time with SAS connectors and wondering what I'm doing wrong.

I have these WD Red NAS drives connected in the DS380 drive cage. The drive cage has 2 molex power connectors plugged in along with the the 8 SAS connectors. I'm connecting to these connectors which clearly state "SAS" underneath them, as shown in this photo.

What stupid thing am I doing wrong? Do I perhaps need a mini-SAS to SATA connector instead of using what came with the motherboard?

Nah, they came out with 6tb a while ago but it does seem to be taking longer and longer for larger ones to come out. WD red 6tb

"Revit Server" is an application that sits on a Windows Server 2012 R2 system to help keep large Revit projects in sync with many designers working at the same time. From what I've read, this is a requirement to keep files synced between multiple designers if any designers are offsite. There appears to be some debate on Revit forums if it's a necessity/requirement for even local groups, if there's a large-number of designers on the same project/server.

The alternative is simply a central File Share that can sit on a NAS device. QNAP and Synology are my 2 goto pre-built brands for small work-group NAS. If the local network is fast enough (i.e. all designers on wired gigabit, not high latency or unreliable wifi), it looks like a central file share is enough for most small teams. Looks like this is the approach by most teams on the same site of less that 10 designers.

It's important to realize that just centralizing files in a Revit Server or a NAS are NOT backups. That's live files you are editing. You'll still want a backup solution. In it's simplest form, a large external USB for the offline backup of your NAS. A more elegant and automated solution would be a second small 2-bay (i.e. cheaper) NAS to backup to remotely. Or even automated Cloud backups if that's your thing.

Onto the parts detail help. If you are just looking for simple, centralized storage NAS: There are now pure SSD solutions. QNAP has the TBS-452A you can fill it with 4x 500GB or 4x 1TB SSDs, giving you 1.5TB or 3TB of RAID 5 storage on your network.

Here's the QNAP TBS-453A SSD NAS shopping list:
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• $450 - QNAP TBS-453A-4G-US - [B&H Photo] (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1249544-REG/qnap_tbs_453a_4g_us_tbs_453a_4_bay_m_2_nasbook.html) / Amazon
  
• $40 - 8GB RAM Kit - Amazon
  
  ... Storage Capacity Options ...
  
  
• $640 - 1TB (RAID10 or RAID6) or 1.5TB (RAID5) - 4x Samsung 850 EVO 500GB - $170 each - Amazon
  
  or
  
  
• $1040 - 2TB (RAID10 or RAID6) or 3TB (RAID5) - - 4x SanDisk X400 1TB - $260 each - Amazon
  
  
  
  2nd NAS for Backup (Onsite or Offsite):
  
  
• $310 - QNAP TS-251+ - Amazon
  
• $480 - 6TB (RAID1) - 2x WD Red 6TB Drive - $240 each - Amazon
  
  
  
  
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  *Quick RAID Primer:
  
  

• RAID 5 - 1 drive can fail and you keep running fine. Some processor overhead and added latency for the parity calculations. Capacity is Total Space minus 1 Drive's Capacity
  
• RAID 6 - 2 drives can fail and you keep running fine. Some processor overhead and added latency for the parity calculations. Capacity is Total Space minus 2 Drive's Capacity
  
• RAID 1 - Limited to 2 Drives total. 1 drive can fail and you keep running fine. Almost no latency and processor overhead. Capacity is half Total Space.
  
• RAID 10 - 1 drive can fail and you keep running fine. Almost no latency and processor overhead. Capacity is half Total Space.
  
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  If you actually want a "Revit Server" full Windows Server 2012 R2 Application server, then you are looking at something with far more involved software setup and maintenance. You may want the help of a local freelance Windows Server Sysadmin to get it all configured and maintained. If you are looking for a parts-list for something like that, let me know.

I use a couple Backblaze Pods stocked with 3 TB drives, though I'm trying to consolidate and I'm moving towards SuperMicro's Super Storage Server 6047R-E1R72L (72 Bay) stocked with 6 TB drives.

I used to use Windows Server OS, but then switched to FreeBSD (though I'm also considering FreeNAS).

As for management, proper naming conventions and metadata works wonders. Toss in a script for both of those, and management is trivial.

Honestly though, I'm planning to leave my main setup at home, and start anew at Purdue.

Amazon has the 6TB drives as well (Gotta love Prime) for $299.

It is <$300 for a 6 TB drive now.

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-3-5-inch-IntelliPower-WD60EFRX/dp/B00LO3KR96

A 2 or 3 TB is dirt cheap!