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I don't think it's right to describe the differences in kitchen knives as ergonomic and how well-sharpened the blades are. There are two distinct tiers: stamped blades (stamped out of sheet metal and sharpened) and forged blades.

Cutco knives are stamped steel. I've never seen a stamped blade that isn't flimsy and cheap feeling. It has to be thin enough metal to be stamped out of a sheet. You can sharpen them like he said but forged blades are just head and shoulders above stamped, imo.

Forged blades are much heavier and can be made out of way nicer steel that holds an edge longer. They're harder to sharpen but let professionals do that. Just keep yours honed with a steel. Watch a youtube on how to do that, and take the 10 seconds to do it after every time you use your knife. You will only need to sharpen very rarely.

In addition to agreeing with that commenter about using professional sharpening, I think a professional supply place is a fine idea. Just aim for forged for at least your chef's knife. That's the one that really matters since you can use it for the vast majority of cooking tasks.

My roommate's stamped knife set full of special knives is fine for those special things: cheese, sandwich, paring (mostly), bread (mostly). But I use my wusthof ikon chef's knife for basically all my cooking needs. It can still cut thin transparent tomato slices with almost gravity alone. It just effortlessly and precisely divides whatever food material I'm working with.

I bet any decent forged blade would do similar, but since I only needed one nice knife, I was fine spending like $150 ($138 now it looks like) on it to be sure it cut nice and felt good in my hand. The ikon series has nicely contoured handles: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YMURSE/

Please post if you find a professional product you end up buying and let us know how it goes!

Amazon is helpful here. I would advise getting two things: a reliable, bright flashlight, and strong pepper gel.

For the flashlight, I recommend a Streamlight Protac 1L-1AA (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G75P1SC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_9ia.Bb301STP9) or the Streamlight Protac 2-LX (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WD29DZ8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_xka.Bb703WW4V).

There are a lot of good lights out there, but these two models are excellent and should meet the needs of most people. The 2-LX is bigger, brighter, and can use rechargeable batteries. However, the 1L-1AA has the advantage of being smaller. Both can easily fit in a pocket or purse.

Here’s a video review if the 2-LX: https://youtu.be/j_7RfUFYblU

Here’s a video comparing the two: https://youtu.be/vythpZUBab8

For the pepper gel, I recommend Sabre Red (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AT3LMP4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_6ga.BbRKDF9CK). It has good range, is super hot, and this kit comes with a practice unit.

I woke up to a FB message from someone telling me that this had been shared here, so I tracked it; I'm the OP for the FB post. I'm sorry I'm so long-winded, but I just kept typing; it was actually just supposed to be a reach-out to some friends who are getting into ItWorks! and Lipsense, to caution them not to get too deep. I don't do a lot of social media, so I'm not good at viral posting or anything like that, but I wanted to come and provide more information from my notes for those interested. I got to sit in front of two subject matter experts for three hours, and everything I wrote was a credit to their life's work to undo the damage of high-demand groups.


I'm a Navy vet and psychology doctoral candidate from WV, and I work in mental health. I attended a training earlier this month from two guys from Wellspring WV, which is a really great facility that focuses primarily on helping people recover from re-education, high-demand groups, and what we could traditionally call "cult" activity and "brainwashing" (These awesome gentlemen are named Jeff Bryson and Greg Sammons; they also reference Dr. Alexandra Stein, who was a reformed cult member and is now a prominent SME in the field). It was about three hours of talking about the general tactics that are applied by the leaders of these groups to expand control. The focal point of the training was actually Scientology, but I was immediately fascinated by the claims that coercive control extended to MLM groups. Specifically, they mentioned someone from ASU (for the life of me, I can't remember who, because things were moving fast, there were a lot of slides, and I forgot to write down his name) who actually teaches a seminar on how to apply these coercion tactics in a MLM; so, ASU's School of Business has a MLM-factory,maybe from this Michael Sheffield dude somewhere in its midst (but he covers his ass by stressing that people only use the information "ethically". Yeah. Right.) So for the past few weeks, I've been poring through whatever literature I can find. Here are some of the things that have been in my general reading list, not focused on MLM:

• Heresy of Mind Control by Steven Martin
  
  
• Thought Reform and Psychology of Totalism by Robert J. Lifton
  
  
• Influence by Robert Cialdini
  
  
• Brainwashing and the Cults by Paul A. Verdier
  
  
• Movies: Dig, Faults, The Wave, The Firm, Join Us, Paradise Rediscovered, Betting on Zero; shows like The Path and The Following (you have to dig below the story, but many of the early episodes of each are good illustrations of some techniques)
  
  
  I'll make a response thread here with my lengthier notes.

Nah its so sweet its unpleasant lol. Here's some very nice squash, Robinsons stuff is great. Ribena is great too and Vimto. Love the Vimto remixes too, especially these ones. That's quite a bit more expensive than here in the UK, but all amazon US links, i'd highly recommend them!! I bet some of them are even price competiive with juice from the store for you guys as you water it down.

There must be some cheaper, American made brands too even just for expats. Its pretty cheap to make. I really recommend Ribena though, classic drink for kids and adults since WWII. Vimto has been well known for a long time and that specific remix flavour I linked I take to work every day. And Robinsons is a squash every kid has in a cupboard in the house somewhere :)

I've been getting mine from the same store for 20 years and I have never paid more than $5-7 unless it's something like frankincense. Friend of mine got me a DoTerra lavender oil as a gift (she's not a hun and it was a thoughtful gift) and I looked up the price... $28. I can get twice as much edit: the same amount for $5. It's an insane mark up. And then they tell you to use way more than you need and put it in everything.

They're not totally useless, they just aren't 'cure alls'. They're good for a few minor ailments, just not what the sellers claim. Lavender is calming and de-stressing, peppermint can settle nausea, eucalyptus clears the sinuses, and bergamot covers the smell of pot smoke really nicely. Aromatherapy and traditional medicine have been around for ages, but these huns act like they rediscovered some long lost secret...

Edit: I went and checked the prices out of interest in case people wanted to see the comparison between a standard essential oil from DoTerra, a reputable high street store, and Amazon.

DoTerra charges $28 for 15ml. I can get it here for approx $7 (taking into account size difference and currency), and that's from a retail store in a nice area with actual business costs and staff who have some knowledge of aromatherapy that isn't just 'use oils for everything!!). So DoTerra is literally charging 4x what I would pay in my local store.

If you want to compare it to a business that doesn't have a storefront overhead... you can get the same quantity of oil here on Amazon for $5.. DoTerra is 5.6x more expensive.

So the nice thing about stuff like this is it really confirms these people are awful. I mean, am I really expected to believe this person is nice outside of LLR?

LLR is the biggest mystery to me. I can see how people get started with Tupperware, or pampered chef or cheapish items they would use anyway and want to try to get a deal on. Minimal investment. LLR requires SO MUCH MONEY just to get started. It is just insane. I can possibly see my friends maybe buying a pizza cutter or a microwave rice cooker but no way in hell could I ever convince myself my friends would buy clothes from me. We just don't buy that many clothing items. You are literally opening a clothing store and have no control over what they send you. I honestly can't see how this ever became popular.

I mean look right now these ultra soft leggings on Amazon are like $14, free shipping, fun patterns and lots of reviews.

I've never tried LLR, but these were the BEST leggings during my pregnancy and I still wear them 2 months after giving birth. They are washable and you can throw them in the dryer (and great for those with a bit of a tummy: Beachcoco Women's Maternity Fold Over Leggings

> Also, in my experience, there is some truth to the statement that wealthy people learn things that people don't learn in school.

There's a very interesting book called A Framework for Understanding Poverty that talks about the unwritten rules of each social class and how it's difficult to move up the ladder if you don't understand the rules. Someone who is born into a wealthy family is going to have an inherent advantage at maintaining a lifestyle of wealth because they understand the social rules of being part of the wealthy class. It's a fascinating read.

I haven't had time to full on go deep I to research but from what I see, https://www.amazon.com/Tea-Tree-Oil-Face-Cleanser/dp/B073X4GYRV this one seems to have similar ingredients in them. But I want to look through some more. Lol have you tired Mario badesceau line? His products are known for gentle acne treatment and I personally love his cucumber mist. Will get back to you again! :)

That would be the general assumption, to have a education.

I'm currently looking up some of the names in the reports. Some lead to dead ends, but others cough up some information.

Young DG is obvious D(onald) Gary Young.

Woolley CL is This Guy AKA Cole L Woolley. Claims to have a PHD.

He was the VP of Research and Development at Young Living for 6 years (see above) which explains why his name is all over the documents i've linked above along with Gary. Gary had his degree from a Diploma Mill and supposedly Cole got his from Brigham Young University in utah. Surprise, he wrote a book also

"McClendon B" is curious. Only thing I found was a Distributor that may match the name, but it's fuzzy at best. She has been with them for 8 years though, is a nurse? Maybe she has some "pedigree" they tapped for some reason. Image of her linkedin

More as I find them. Pretty difficult since they use Initials or a variant of their name. Some I got lucky with, others unknown or nothing at all.

It is curious to note that some of the names are Asian in nature and they have a presence in asian countries now. Talked to some of their team members in the higher ranks who could find some medical "professionals" to give the illusion of clout to their studies?

If "McClendon B" is the actual one above who did some of the reports, that would prove it's not below them to just source folks near off the street who match their illusion of being able to offer clout/good text/images to their reports

Sorry you're getting downvoted for saying something works for you. I see there is peppermint and ginger in those gelcaps. You could give these peppermint flavored ginger chews a try if you want to stay on the safe side. There are smaller bags, but the 1lb bag is the best deal. I love them and the plain ginger ones, but they also have mango, orange, and peanut butter flavored ones.

I'm all about Shea Moisture line, the 13oz lasts for a month and a half to two cuz you need so little. Smells lovely, works great and free of: Sulfates, Parabens, Mineral oil, Propelyene Glycol, Petroleum, or Animal Testing.
*Not a hun, just a satisfied customer who is cheap as all get out.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EX411X4?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

I was hesitant to purchase because they all seem to come in a bar soap, but it has a container. You put warm/hot water in for about a minute to soften the soap for better use. If it dries your skin a bit, try using it every other or few days.
I use it about every 2-3 days and have noticed a great improvement within the next 2 days (I've even been putting on makeup now in my breakout zones, and my skin still looks good).

Edit to add: when you are using it there is a bit of a sulfur smell. Once you wash it off it goes away.

Not sure why you got downvoted for this.


Here are two good options for you. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009KML6RK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1


https://www.amazon.com/New-Health-Nutrition-Endurance-Metabolism/dp/B074P6D21H/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1536789609&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=morning+buzz&psc=1


Both are caffeine and vitamin blends in the form of a fruity powder. Similar nutrition and caffeine to Spark.

I don't think they make rose hip essential oil. When I type it in on amazon, it just comes up with the regular oils.

Btw, if anyone wants to try rose hip oil, the co2 extraction method is supposed to be better than cold pressed. That means longer shelf life and supposedly more of the nutritive benefits stay in the oil vs the cold pressed method. I use Pai. The differences I notice in the co2 vs cold pressed are the co2 extracted is thicker, bright orange, smells a lot better. I only need four drops and don't use it everyday so shelf life is important to me. The cold pressed I bought went rancid within a few months and I had over half the bottle left. :(

I have this from amazon and it’s beautiful

If you want an example to pass on to her, here you go:

LeggingGirl

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