(Part 3) Reddit mentions: The best turntables & accessories

I confirmed the shipping charges from UPS, professional packaging for both turntables would cost $52 and shipping would be around $80, and that's only for the turntables.

As for the getting everything on the list for less than I'm selling, well, ok, I'll have to break it down since I don't need you making false assumptions.

• (x2) Stanton STR8-80 turntables range from prices by condition, but if you haven't noticed from the pictures of the turntables, they are in almost flawless condition, no scratches, nothing. I'm selling them both for $350, so we'll say that price is standard for these good conditioned turntables, but wait.
  
  
• (x2) Shure M44G Cartridges that come free with the turntables, they cost $55 each, and as for how long I've used them, well I can't prove that since I don't have the receipt when I bought them last month, but I wouldn't be giving away $110 for free if I would have been selling just my turntables..
  
  $350 + $110 = $460
  
  
• Vestax PMC 06 Pro Mixer, I can't find one for sale anywhere, but I can guarantee you that they go from $150 to $300. But if you look over here for the CF-CC fader, it sells for $130, so let's assume the Vestax PMC 06 Pro mixer is $150. Well, let's add $150 + $130 = $270, so look here, I'm giving away another $70. And not only that, I as well have a custom Master Mod Cue installed in the mixer.
  
  $460 + $270 = $730
  
  
• Novation Dicers, pretty standard that they're $100, but I'm giving them away for $50.
  
  $730 + $100 = $830
  
  
• (x4) Traktor MK2 Timecoded Vinyl (Black & White), range from around $15 each. So, $15 + $15 + $15 + $15 = $60. I'm giving away $60 for free.
  
  $830 + $60 = $890
  
  
• (x2) Butter Rugs, they're $15 for a pair. More free money I'm giving away.
  
  $890 + $15 = $905
  
  
• (x8) Stanton Slipmats. I don't even know the price per slipmat, but I'll let this one slide.
  
  
• M-Audio Connectiv Audio Interface, Guitar Center is selling it used with all the items that come with it for $160, I'm selling it used with all the items that come with it for $50.
  
  $905 + $160 = $1,065
  
  And shipping? I can't say since corporations and businesses may have cheaper connections with shipping companies, but I'm paying money out of my own pocket as well because $175 is just an estimate.
  
  So, tell me, would you rather choose $650, or $1,065?
  
  I provided links for proof, and explained everything that would need to be explained. Please don't try to ruin my sale for me, because I am an honest man.

>I don't have a budget in mind but I also don't know what would constitute a decent deal. What kind of price point should I be looking at for mid-range stuff?

Do they have any vintage 70's receivers that they serviced for $150 to $300? Many have good phono preamps built in. What is your Craigslist city?

If not finding anything used: Refurbished stereo receiver, PIONEER SX-10AE $149.99 $119.99.

Will you also be using the speakers with a TV for better movie and TV sound? Then consider an AV recevier.

Phono preamp if there isn't one build into the receiver: Taking the Guesswork out of Phonostage Gain. The ART DJ Pre II $67 has an adjustable gain dial. The popular Schiit Mani $129 has gain dip switches on the bottom.

Speakers: Bookshelf speakers on stands often have a smaller footprint than floor standing tower speakers.

• Best current deal is a closeout sale on 6.5" DCM TP160 by MTX Audio $249 $85 pair. Review by u/DieselWang and Video Review. Or maybe these towers are smaller than the ones in the shop, DCM TP260 2-Way by MTX Audio $399 $149 pair.
  
• My speakers of choice for music are Ascend CBM-170SE $298 + shipping. Neutral sound with a linear frequency response and a great midrange that many speakers lack. Manufacturer direct cuts out the middleman so compare to $500 speakers.
  
• Wavecrest Audio HVL-1, and order on sale at Ascend $80 each + shipping, "budget/baby Ascends" from the same speaker designer. To me, comparable to and better mids than KEF Q100s.
  
• Or DIY build from a kit. 5" C-Note MT $99. A good starter build with a good low end for the size. Add around $30 for supplies and then tools if you don't have them. Kit includes pre-cut cabinets. Glue, solder, paint, assemble. Comparable to built speakers costing two to three times as much.
  
  Speaker Placement for Stereo Music Listening
  
  Speaker stands: Dayton Audio SSMB24 or Monoprice Glass. Sturdy Monolith by Monoprice Speaker Stands.
  
  Speaker wire: Pure Copper Oxygen Free Speaker Wire or Basic Copper Clad Aluminum then 4 Ways to Strip Wire. Optionally add banana plugs. Already with banana plugs AmazonBasics buy 2 for a pair 12ft each.
  
  For WiFi streaming audio, add to any used or new amp or recevier without it: Dayton Audio WBA31 $42 + shipping or from Amazon $53 Prime shipping, has app based WiFi streaming, Apple Airplay, DNLA and NAS compatibility and also Bluetooth as a backup. Or a Chromecast Audio $38 shipped from the UK.
  
  If the Pioneer turntable does not work out: A new option if $400 was over your budget is the Fluance RT82 $299 with an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor (skip the older RT81 without it) or the popular Audio-Technica AT-LP120XUSB $249.
  
  Home Audio Guides: Intro to home stereo systems • Zeos Tutorials, Diagrams and Videos • r/audiophile Guide to Home Audio • Introduction to Audio Components • What is a Phono Preamp? | Audio Advice • r/HTBuyingGuides FAQ
  
  Also check out r/BudgetAudiophile.

In this case an all-in-one player would be just fine.

If nothing is priceless, the player doesn't need to last many years, and sound quality isn't the most important thing, go for an all in one. The Crosley's with built in speakers would probably work well enough.

These won't have the best quality or durability, but if you need something quick and easy, with external speakers (they might sound a bit better than the internal speakers) you can look into this or this. I don't have personal experience with them, but they might work well for the cause.

If you're looking to spend a bit more, an LP60 or Sony PSLX300USB might work better. I've used the Sony before and it works pretty well. It has an automatic play feature so it's really easy to use and setup. You'll just need a stereo receive and speakers which might cost a bit too much depending on how much you're willing to spend.

If you were looking to get into records, I'd definitely recommend something better, but there is no reason a Crosley won't get the job done.

I'm very sorry to hear that, and I hope you and your family are doing the best you can at this time.

Speakers Aperion Intimus Towers $468 Aperion, hand made in Portland Oregon -straightforward designs with high quality parts and good customer service for cheap (alternatively I agree with Freezerburn 100 percent about Magnepans - best high end value bar none imho. if you want to spend a little more on speakers)

DAC Shiit Bifrost $350 hands down my favorite DAC under 600 bucks

Amp and Preamp NAD 1130 and 902 stereo amp and preamp 260 plus shipping. NAD is rock solid, it is known.

Turntable Music Hall MMF 2.2 $450 Really like Project and MMF turntables mid-entry level turntables

Total Cost $1528 plus some shipping.

Could skip the turntable and save 450.
What Arve has said makes sense (except that any audiophile should buy an airport express) about the speakers, unless you are intending to expand or in any way improve or add to your setup over time. Getting a decent DAC/Pre/Amp rig should set you up for years to come, you can always try a new set of speakers, but always remember past a given point the more you spend the less of a return you will see.

If you know someone who feels confident buying used you'd be surprised what turns up for next to nothing on CL if you are willing to dig around for a bit. Oh, and anything canadian is usually good price/performance (paradigm, psb, etc.) Something that some audiophiles like to do is to use a tube powered pre amp to get tube color and drive without spending 2 grand on a 30/50/60/90/120 watt tube amp - while using cheaper transparent solid state amplifiers to actually drive the speakers.

Protip - audiogon is an awesome place to find yesterdays best for cheap.

Copying this from a post I made, in case this gets seen sooner!


I am researching turntables to finally replace my shitty Crosley that I've been ruining records with since 2006. Same old common long story made short, I would love to get a nice setup, but don't have the money right now. I'm really hoping to get listening to my collection again without breaking the bank.

All of that being said, I have read through the guides on the side bar and have a good idea of what to look for and even more importantly what to avoid. So in the mean time, I found this 1byone turntable for super cheap on amazon. I know that brand is on the no-fly list, and for seemingly good reason. However, this one appears to be okay?

Obviously it's not super high quality, but adjustable counterweight, upgradable cartridge, and non-built-in speakers / RCA hookups for when I want to graduate from the included bluetooth speakers (which is a plus, because I'm also looking to use it as a general bluetooth speaker).

So, obviously I should get something better, but this doesn't seem like something too horrible, right? It's kinda the perfect price for me right now, and it offers the ability to upgrade a couple things when I can, before graduating to a real setup when I can spend better money.

What do y'all think?

My thoughts exactly.

Compared to the other option, I think this one won't sound any worse or better. What I like most about it is that its cheap and has everything you need. You've only got a couple records right now and it sounds like you're still not sure if you want to get into vinyl, so why spend a lot? If you find yourself buying more records, you can upgrade pieces of the system as you wish.

The cassette deck has issues, but unless you have cassettes, its not a big deal. Could also be a simple fix of cleaning the insides. The CD player is a nice add on. The speakers may need to be refoamed, which isn't difficult, but for the $85 asking price you should still have money left over for a new set of speakers.

For this system, you'll probably need a new needle, you can either replace the needle (if you can find a replacement for the cartridge) or buy a new cartridge (which will have a new needle). There are some great, cheap options this is a popular option around here. You'll also probable need a 45 adapter to be able to play your records. If the guy doesn't include the cables, you'll need a speaker wire and RCA cables to hook up the CD player and Cassette deck.

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To add, the system you referenced will be more difficult to upgrade if you decide to get into vinyl. The reason is because the turntable has a built in phono preamp (if you read the sidebar, typically these types of turntables are considered subpar in quality) and the receiver probably doesn't have a Phono Input (since the turntable has it). So if you look to replace the turntable to something better (which won't have a phono preamp), you'll need to buy a preamp to continue to use the receiver or buy a new receiver that has a phono input. The speakers are a good budget pair that get good reviews around here.

$500 with a turntable is a bit low of a budget, but I'll see what I can do.

If you want to ever go surround, it would be a good idea to get a surround receiver now. This one will do the trick. If you don't think you'll ever need surround, this guy will work and save you a couple bucks.

[Audiotechnica turntable](Audio-Technica AT-LP60X-BK Fully Automatic Belt-Drive Stereo Turntable, Black, Hi-Fidelity, Plays 33 -1/3 and 45 RPM Vinyl Records, Dust Cover, Anti-Resonance, Die-Cast Aluminum Platter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N3XJ66N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6XaGDbX20EGGZ). If you want a bit more of a "vintage" look, this Teac would be good. It's wood instead of plastic.

Speakers will be tough. I would love to recommend you the Wharfedale Dentons because those are super vintage looking. However, that isn't feasible with your budget.

Something that is feasible would be the Wharfedale Diamond 220 in walnut. I've only seen them in black and rosewood, but I think the walnut would look the most like what you want.

Let me know what you think and I'll see if I can make any changes.

While the Crosley isn't exactly a tool of Satan that will chew up your record in half a dozen plays, it's nowhere near high-quality either. There's a reason why it's so cheap compared to all those other turntables out there.

Quick rundown of how record players work: the record has grooves in which the stylus/needle sits. When the record spins, the needle is dragged through the grooves and vibrates. However, the vibrations are very tiny and need to be amplified, which is done by the cartridge that connects the needle to the tonearm. Moving magnet (MM) and moving coil (MC) cartridges make the vibration of the needle cause a magnet to move through a wire coil (or a wire coil around a magnet, respectively), which induces an electrical pulse. Ceramic cartridges, meanwhile, use piezoelectricity, which is where a vibration through a certain type of ceramic creates an electrical pulse. MM and MC cartridges also need a pre-amp to further boost the sound before it reaches the speakers, but ceramic cartridges don't, thus making them more appealing to market as an "all in one" unit.

Crosley Cruisers use ceramic cartridges instead of MMs or MCs, because they're significantly cheaper and allows you to forego the pre-amp. However, they require more tracking force (how hard the needle pushes down on the record) to get the same volume level. This means that they wear down records faster. It's not immediately perceptible, but if you use records on it frequently, then play it on a high-end turntable to compare, there'll be a visible dip in sound quality. This is also why it's bad to tape a penny to the head of a tonearm—it makes the sound louder for a ceramic cartridge, but also wears down the record more quickly.

Furthermore, Cruisers have several other design flaws: they don't have an adjustable counterweight (meaning you can't make it press down any lighter), the built-in speakers are mediocre, there's often a noticeable warble or variation to the speed, you can't close the lid while it's playing (the record hangs out over the edge), you can't detach the lid, and there's a risk of it tipping over. Its only real value that it has over other styles is the branding and retro aesthetic.

If you want to get it, ask yourself a question: are you on the fence about collecting records, or do you plan on seriously getting it? I'm sure that for plenty of people on this sub (me included), the Crosley was their gateway to getting interested in the hobby. So my advice is that if you have any certainty about collecting your records, save up your money a bit more and buy a more durable and higher-quality starter option like the AudioTechnica AT-LP60X. If you know you're gonna get into it, why buy a turntable that you're gonna immediately upgrade from anyway? Or better yet, check out thrift stores, Craigslist, ebay, etc. and see if you can get a decent turntable from the 70s or 80s for a good price.

TL;DR if you're not really sure at all if you wanna collect records, it's worth giving it a try. But if you know you're gonna collect records and are just wondering about your starter model, then skip it and go for something that you won't have to upgrade for a while.

For DJing your going to need a DJ table. Most normal tables don't really have the optimal torque, or the emphasis on build quality, needed for constant transportation and so forth. Plus you kind of have to go direct drive, unless you want to be going through belts left and right.

https://www.amazon.com/Stanton-STR8-80-Turntable-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00006FXFU/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1538455267&sr=1-4&keywords=stanton+direct+drive+turntable

For speakers your best bet is honestly studio monitors. How much you want to spend is almost directly proportional to how big an area you are looking to DJ. What might be good for your small apartment probably isn't going to cut it for a larger area.

These aren't the most nuanced, but will get the job done well and actually sound pretty good. Keep in mind, you'll be paying 3X or more if you want quality monitors. Plus these look decent, sport a fairly beefy 8" driver, have a remote, optical and USB in, and support stuff like BT if needed.

https://www.amazon.com/Rockville-HTS8W-Theater-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B0725287PG/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1538455750&sr=1-3&keywords=studio+monitor&refinements=p_89%3ARockville

Or these, which aren't as flexible with inputs, but are more oriented towards a studio or live environment. Plus these are easy to add a matching sub to;

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GV0OP5S/ref=twister_B07BK8QTBH?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GV0OJIG/ref=twister_B07BK8QTBH?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

Keep in mind, anything less than top of the line JBL and QSC stuff is going to be sneered at by "professional" DJs. But if you aren't depending on your gear to eat, you can cut a lot of corners and still get quality sound.

My girlfriend got me a Victrola Nostalgic 3-Speed Vintage Bluetooth Suitcase Turntable (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Z0IBLH8/ref=twister_B01H53U59K?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1) for Christmas. I had been looking to get started with vinyl for about a year, and she got this type for me since we're still in college and it's easily portable. I ended up getting Slippery When Wet and Innocent Man used, and I tried out the turntable. I had learned enough not to use the built in speakers, but it still started skipping the second time I put a record on it. Any ideas on what I should do? Any recommendations on a better, moderately priced turntable that I can move relatively easily between home and school?

Edit: The first time the turntable skipped, it was on a brand new TOP record. Innocent Man is slightly warped, so I'm pretty sure that's why that one skips. Slippery When Wet played fine the 3 times I played it. I'm not too worried about Innocent Man, I got it for $2. But I'm very worried about what it could do to new records.

Not sure of your price range, but I just upgraded mine to this one. The speakers that come with it sound great, and I love how it all looks. Can definitely recommend. And Discovery is the first album I played on it to test it out :)

I'm helping my step-father put together a speaker system for the turntable that he got for Christmas and I'm feeling a little overwhelmed by all of the choices.

He has a budget of up to $1,000 and was interested in a pair of bookshelf speakers, an amplifier (2-5 band equalizer?), and a subwoofer (if you think one is necessary). I was hoping to buy everything from Amazon, but would be willing to buy somewhere else online, or from a store in the Portland, Oregon area.

His favorite musician is Tom Petty, I'm not exactly sure how big his vinyl collection is, but I can ask him what else he will be listening too if that will help.

He has a Musitrend 3 speed Turntable and will be setting everything up in his den, which is about 10'x10'. Is wall mounting possible? There isn't a lot of available floor space.

I have done a little bit of research and was thinking about the KEF Q150, the reviews seem to suggest that a subwoofer wouldn't be necessary with those speakers since he doesn't listen to bass-heavy music like techno or rap.

I was planning on buying banana plugs and cutting my own speaker wire and would like a recommendation on gauge size.

Thank you for all of your help, I appreciate any input that you can give!

Yes.

This is a good entry level model. This is the cheapest new one that isn't shit and will begin to give you the legendary vinyl sound quality that blows away digital recordings.

http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT-LP120-USB-Direct-Drive-Professional-Turntable/dp/B002S1CJ2Q

This is a good step up

http://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-13086-Debut-Carbon-Black/dp/B007XTE6YW

or

http://www.amazon.com/Rega-RP1-Turntable-Cool-Gray/dp/B004B3GELG/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421852438&sr=1-2&keywords=rega+p3

or

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-Driven-Turntable-Cartridge/dp/B001FUF8FQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421852459&sr=1-3&keywords=musical+hall+mmf

This is even better if you're loaded

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-M5-1N-MMF-5-1/dp/B000KOHIO2/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421852381&sr=1-6&keywords=music+hall+mmf

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-Turntable-Pro-ject-Tonearm/dp/B007X579S6

The best option unless you're rich is getting a really nice used turntable though.

You may luck on a Black Friday deal, but IMO, the best entry level/starter table is https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07N3S4X3P?pf_rd_p=183f5289-9dc0-416f-942e-e8f213ef368b&pf_rd_r=7SVEF18W30MDVFQVNRE8

It can hook up to a computer or a receiver. It has a built in amp (better tables don't - which means you have to spend more money)The components are great for an entry level table (good needle, tone arm, counter weight).

I really can't say it enough (i've posted it in other threads here). If people are looking to get into vinyl on a limited budget, this is the table to start with.

You can get some nice Polk speakers on Amazon for $100.another good affordable starter.

Well, according to a quick google search it looks like a really nice watch.

As far as turntable recommendations, it's hard to say without knowing how much you spend and how far down the rabbit hole you want to go. You say don't know much about vinyl - is it something you think you'll really get into? Or is it something that you think will be a part-time interest to you.

I'm not saying that to be elitist, there's no right or wrong answer. But it helps to put some thought into now so that you can "future-proof" your purchases.

For much less, this and this will blow away what you listed. Pro-ject and Marantz are two top-tier names in home audio, and while this is sort of cookie-cutter and mid/entry level to snobs like me, I guarantee the average person will be very impressed by the sound it puts out.

Just to push the envelope, for example, if you're looking to spend a little more, the Clearaudio Concept (for about $1200) is often hailed as one of the better record players under $3k. But it's very far from user friendly, and while it's worth every penny I wouldn't recommend it to a hobbyist. And, truthfully - the average listener will hear very little difference between this and the Clearaudio. But to somebody like me? Hell ya, worth every extra penny.

So it's your call my man. I'd do your research a bit, and stay away from "all-in-one" kits. For even $2k, you can get a very nice turntable and receiver that would make a lot of people jealous.

> and can play 78 RPM which is nice

yes, though remember that those aren't vinyl, and require a separate stylus as well.

> Any other good recommendations to the LP100?

U-Turn Orbit is oft-recommended in the same price range. Much better preamp.

> Also, can anyone recommend supplies for cleaning records.

I'm cheap. I use: https://imgur.com/a/V3Tbn

> Budget: 700 or less

Whoa...OK. 700 is a considerably more healthy budget than a U-Turn orbit or LP120.

Some to consider:

Thorens: https://www.amazon.com/Thorens-TD-203-Turntable-Drive-Red/dp/B00QYU0HOO/ref=sr_1_26?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1522618105&sr=1-26&keywords=turntable&refinements=p_36%3A50000-75000

Pro-Ject: https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-Esprit-Black/dp/B00AWB6C22/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1522618050&sr=1-2&keywords=turntable&refinements=p_36%3A50000-75000&dpID=41ybMCZj00L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

REGA: https://www.amazon.com/REGA-Planar-2-Gloss-Black/dp/B01KVLHAS2/ref=sr_1_3?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1522618050&sr=1-3&keywords=turntable&refinements=p_36%3A50000-75000&dpID=41dYWX%252Bcw3L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Well it can depend. Are your speakers powered or passive, do you have a subwoofer, do you want an automatic (where a button moves the needle to the record and it puts itself back when its done, vs. having to pick up the arm and manually placing it on the record, plus pick it up and take it off the record when it's done every time). What other devices do you have, do you value bluetooth.

If you just want something that looks good in a photo here, you can find a vintage receiver for $100 (check craigslist/ebay, here's the first one I saw on eBay I'm not vouching for this model) and then an Audio Technica LP120 for $230. This is manual but you can, down the line, buy new cartridges. Also has features like adjustable counterweight, anti-skate and speed regulation.

You could alternatively go modern with a Sony STR-DH190 receiver. $150, bluetooth standby - basically you can play music to the receiver without making sure it's on. From there you could get the same $230 LP120, or the LP60XBT for $120 that also has bluetooth, so it can be used with wireless headphones, too. Or I guess just paired via bluetooth with the receiver so you don't have physically connect them. The LP60 is automatic but lacks the LP120's adjustments, which you may miss as you dive deeper into this hobby.

But pure turntable love - I'd cheap out on a receiver. Vintage looks or modern features aside, it's a black chunk. Phono preamp, amp and radio, at this price range, aren't really big considerations. So hit goodwill, salvation army or craigslist, and grab one for like $20. You might even find one with a center (subwoofer) out which the Sony or vintage I mentioned don't. Then you could get a Fluance RT82 or a Uturn Orbit for about $300. Those are both manual.

In contrast to receivers, used turntables haven't been a great experience for me. They're precision machines and speed/alignment issues can pop up, plus there's a lot of messed up dust covers out there. That said, I've only bought from thrift stores - with some eBay searching, plenty of people have found vintage turntables that were better values than new options.

EDIT: and this is by no means an exhaustive list, I'm just illustrating the different directions you can go

This record player and some of these Pink Floyd vinyls would be pretty awesome, in my opinion. And you could get a pretty vinyl sticker/decal thing to stick on top of the record player that has you guys' initials or anniversary, if you want to make it look cute and more sentimental. lol.

Oh, yay!

What I want most because I've always dreamed of having a turntable/record player and my local Goodwill has the best deals on vinyls!

What I want least because The Avengers is now on Netflix but I wouldn't mind having a copy for when it's no longer on there and I want to bask in the gloriousness of these attractive superheroes.

Hmm I might order this tie-dye kit though for some mid-summer fun with my younger sister!

And lastly, I think the world could do without this pair of latex gloves because washing dishes sucks!

19 as well and oh yeah, Vinyl collecting is a ton of fun, 66 and counting for me, with my sick Victrola 3-in-1 that’s still hella cheap on amazon for how much value you’re getting in a player, I really suggest grabbing one of these if anyone reading this doesn’t have a player yet. That’s the cheapest color, but the others aren’t that much more expensive: https://www.amazon.com/Victrola-Nostalgic-Bluetooth-Turntable-Entertainment/dp/B00NQL8Z16?th=1&psc=1
Honestly it’s more of a 5-in-one, it’s got a turntable, a CD player, a Cassette player, it’s Bluetooth connectable, and it plays radio. 100% worth the 70.

Edit: never mind on that record player. I guess I’ve just been EXTREMELY lucky with mine apparently. Looking at the reviews, it’s gotten nothing but 1 stars in the last year. People having issues left and right to where it breaks within a few months. Mines been working fine for a little over half a year with no problem, but it looks like more people are having issues than not.

Hey.

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I am new to Vinyl and I'm looking to get the same turntable ( https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT-LP120XUSB-Direct-Drive-Hi-Fidelity-Anti-Skate/dp/B07N3S4X3P/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=lp120xusb&qid=1562909981&s=gateway&sr=8-1 ) or if you have a recommendation for a step up from this. What would you recommend?

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Also I think that the setup below that you recommended could work for me since I have a smallish room right now and I would upgrade later on.

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A step up from the Edifiers is ONKYO TX-8020 $99 with:

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  I'm assuming I'll need the wiring for the speakers that amazon sells as a bundle correct?
  
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  I also saw these https://www.klipsch.com/products/r-51m-bookshelf-speaker
  
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  Also what exactly does the ONKYO receiver do and is it needed? Is there a better setup that does not require it or is it needed?
  
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  Any help would be appreciated =). Thank you.

Woah I didn't know there was another pressing. That's cool. I probably don't need to get both though, especially since I dropped a lot on that player already haha.

I got a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Espirit SB. It's a definite upgrade from my old LP120. I love it so far.

I picked up a copy of Discovery by Daft Punk to break it in though and it sounds fantastic.

I have an LP-120, and an Ortofon 2M for reference. I had read online for a while that spindle weights are beneficial to low end and overall quality of sound with vinyl.

I will admit, I was skeptical of using a weight. But the quality did improve. Specifically in the low end. A slightly fuller sound, in fact. It didn't make me jump out of my chair, but I think with the mid-level setup I have, it was noticeable, not marginal. With thinner records, it will help them level. That is surprisingly effective if you are a fan of the used bins.

I'll link the weight below. "Big Ben" is the name. I am also able to completely close the dust cover on my LP-120 with plenty of clearance.

https://smile.amazon.com/BigBen-Record-Weight-Stabilizer-Black/dp/B01BMWI49I

Ok, in regards to the stereo. Do you have any easy links to ebay/amazon? Here are some cheap options I came across after a quick Amazon search:

1. Jensen JTA475B
   
   https://www.amazon.com/Jensen-JTA475B-3-Speed-Turntable-Cassette/dp/B004MIQ9W4/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1492260707&sr=8-13&keywords=stereo
   
   
2. Sylvania SRCD1081BT
   
   https://www.amazon.com/Classic-Bluetooth-Stereo-Removable-Speaker/dp/B01MD2BR1B/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&qid=1492260707&sr=8-21&keywords=stereo
   
   

3. Innovative Technology ITCDS-5000
   

   
   

   https://www.amazon.com/Innovative-Technology-Classic-Bluetooth-Headphone/dp/B00H34GFL4/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8&qid=1492260707&sr=8-24&keywords=stereo
   

   
   

   How is this as a final build? Not including stereo, ASIO4ALL, and the free trial of Windows 10.
   

   
   

   PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
   

   
   

   Type|Item|Price
   

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   CPU | Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor | $59.63 @ OutletPC
   Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $69.99 @ Amazon
   Memory | Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $64.99 @ Jet
   Storage | Western Digital RE3 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $36.00 @ Amazon
   Storage | Western Digital RE3 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $36.00 @ Amazon
   Case | Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case | $38.49 @ Amazon
   Power Supply | Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $49.99 @ NCIX US
   Monitor | Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor | $69.99 @ Amazon
   Keyboard | Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse | $14.49 @ SuperBiiz
   | Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
   | Total | $439.57
   | Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-15 09:08 EDT-0400 |

So my roommate just got a Crosley for his birthday (I know, barf) and I noticed a similarity with the cartridge, tonearm, stylus, pretty much everything between the Crosley and my turntable, which is a Musitrend (I’m not sure of the model since I can’t find the instruction book). They actually seem identical. With the reputation Crosleys have as record killers, should I worry about mine? I just got into records two months ago and planned to upgrade at the end of summer, but I can hardly find anything outside of Amazon to get a sense of if Musitrends aren’t good in the long run.

Below is a link to its Amazon page (where I got it) with many, many photos. Hope that helps!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HTBWN2U/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_5v90AbKMANPN9

Not just new, the best turntables of all time are being made new right now.
The problem is that as far as I know there really isn't anything on the market at that price is worthy of playing hand me down 30 year old cast-offs. Garbage like this is designed to capitalize on the sudden fad of "retro" vinyl. The 5 cent ceramic cartridge will make every single disc is plays worse every time it plays it.

Connecting to Line in on Bose Companion 5..... Need help with this one hopefully without getting to much crap about the details. LOL

Cheap Victrola player
https://www.amazon.com/Victrola-Bluetooth-Suitcase-Turntable-Speakers/dp/B00Z0IBLH8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1497789049&sr=8-3&keywords=victoria%2Brecord%2Bplayer&th=1

Want to connect to the "line in" on my Bose Companion 5 Computer speakers. Player has RCA out and Headphone Out (but NO phono/line switch) however when I hook it up, the sound quality is just very weak and lacks any overall body. What can be done to get it to sound "OK" with this set up?

Not looking for something "gold" but just something better than the speakers built into the unit. Any help is appreciated.

This is the model I've got! I'm not an audiophile by any stretch, but I like it well enough.

Also, YMMV, but I really enjoyed these if your collection winds up taking off. Makes for some lazy-ass wall art.

Well... AT-LP60XBT is not a bad turntable but $150 is just way too much for it. If it was $99 I would say that is a no brainer. But for this much I would explore other options.

On the vinyl subreddit someone recently brought up "1byone Wireless Turntable Hi-Fi System with 36 Watt Bookshelf Speakers, Vinyl Record Player with Magnetic Cartridge": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H8VG9BB/

I do not own this turntable but looking at the pictures and reading the reviews... I don't think it is bad. Tonearm seems decent and you will be able to upgrade the cartridge. Cast iron platter with sitting on a sub-platter - not a bad design either. Built-in phono and power amplifier. Even if the speakers don't turn out to be great you can buy some really good passive speakers for not that much money (Klipsch has deals all the time and there will be more coming I am sure).

I would give it a shot. It will get you on a much better upgrade path: start with this system as-is, upgrade the speakers, add an integrated amp, upgrade the cartridge...

Because reputation takes a while to catch up with reality. Crosley has long been associated with affordable record players that are a bit flimsy and don't sound great (but won't destroy your records, despite some exaggerated rumors you might hear). But for the past few years they've been introducing a wide range of higher-quality turntables, many of which are quite good and have been getting positive reviews.

The C62 is a brand new model for 2019 and hasn't gotten much attention or reviews yet, but does look promising. It's very similar to this model by 1byone, which is getting very good reviews: https://amzn.to/2GabxYD In fact, they're probably made by the same manufacturer and are almost identical.

Thanks for your reply.

After reading the manual for the L-3867, it seems that the cartridge can be swapped and is of the moving magnetic type. The counterweight can also be adjusted via a screw on the back end of the tonearm.

For 60 euros more I've managed to find a turntable produced by Soundlab (Soundlab GO56C), which seems to have a slightly better setup than the Lenco. The counterweight seems to be easier to adjust and it also comes with a pitch control switch, so I'll also look into that. I've emailed Lenco to check for any difference between the L-84 and the L-3687, although from what I can tell after reading their respective owner's manuals, the L-84 lacks any form of adjustability for the counterweight, so I'll probably stick with the L-3867 if I don't get the Soundlab instead.

I'll probably get the Soundlab due to the antiskate feature, easily adjustable counterweight, pitch control, etc. (https://www.amazon.co.uk/SoundLAB-Professional-Turntable-Audacity-Software/dp/B000UH0QPW)

Looking for some general purchasing advice on turntables. My current budget is $100-$500 and I currently have a Denon AVRx1400H with 3.1. RP-260's & RP-440C. I usually listening to classic rock, indie rock, rap, and EDM. I know next to nothing about turntables, but have been lurking on this sub for some time.

I have some interest in this Audio-Technica one Link but have no idea whether this is worth the cost.

Any advice on setting up a decent beginner turntable would be much appreciated, i.e. what you need, what to look for, what to avoid, which brands are better than others etc.

Thanks in advance!

If you need to budget for a phono preamp, then the Project Carbon DC is beyond your budget, but you can get the Project Carbon USB (non-DC) for the same price of $400 and it has a built-in preamp.

Another great choice is the Music Hall MMF 2.2 for $300 and you'll have $100 for a phono preamp.

The ATLP120 is a fine choice for $250 and you'll have $150 left over for more records!

The Uturn orbit for $200 is okay, but everything about it was made to hit that price point. The $300 version has nothing on the $300 MMF2.2.

A good entry level turntable I will recommend is the Audio-Technica LP-120. Audio-Technica is a pretty reliable brand. They also have an LP-60, which is pretty much a cheaper version of this one.

https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT-LP120XUSB-Direct-Drive-Hi-Fidelity-Anti-Skate/dp/B07N3S4X3P/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=52818231741&gclid=CjwKCAiA8ejuBRAaEiwAn-iJ3uwDxp1k_rxKp_fkli7YmLjEYSQB1Fxr1TpOhIVOWrR1anoPe-W4rhoCtMQQAvD_BwE&hvadid=274712880629&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9005623&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10355834353183632556&hvtargid=kwd-304208790892&hydadcr=20547_9663488&keywords=audio-technica+lp120&qid=1574603497&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFHTzQ2QlJHRkFTQkEmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTEwMDg5MTYzSVY2MjNLOFhHM0lMJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA4OTk5MjYxOTVVSlc0OUo4NkJWJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

if you’re wanting something user friendly and relatively cheap, i’d go with the audio technica at-lp60.

Audio-Technica At-LP60X-GM Fully Automatic Belt-Drive Stereo Turntable, Gunmetal/Black, Hi-Fidelity, Plays 33 -1/3 and 45 RPM Vinyl Records, Dust Cover, Anti-Resonance, Die-Cast Aluminum Platter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N3X7KPX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_a22ZDbGTAWGW5

fully automatic and it comes with a pretty nice stylus. this was my main turntable for a while

whatever you do don’t get a crosley unless you want warped/scratched records

This is the BigBen Weight Stabilizer, it was a Christmas gift from my wife: https://www.amazon.com/BigBen-Record-Weight-Stabilizer-Black/dp/B01BMWI49I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1518833873&sr=8-3&keywords=vinyl+record+weight&dpID=510HU2dFQuL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

I do like it, I feel like it reduces the wow and flutter on my TT just a bit. Honestly that could just be a placebo effect, but I still put it on every time I play a record!

Hi - Need help deciding as i'm new to the vinyl world and am not confident in what I'm choosing. Looking for a relatively budget/simple set up for the room/small living room. Trying to stay under 400 for the whole thing. Prefer the powered speakers as I've had bad experiences with cheap pre-amps. Looking to make speakers bluetooth compatible via Echo Dot.
Appreciate the advice - here's my options:

Fluance RT81 w/ Ai40 Speakers - $400

• Ai40 5" Speakers
  
• RT81 (Heard there was some speed issues with this? Not sure accuracy or how often I'd be changing speeds)
  
• Built in Pre-amp included
  
  AT LP120X - $400
  
  
• Edifier R1700BT Speakers - $150
  
• Built in Pre-amp included
  
  Stretching the budget, not sure if someone like me would really need this:
  
  Fluance RT82 - $530
  
  
• Significantly improved wow and flutter and speed variation specs with the optical sensor speed controlled motor
  
• Edifier R1700BT Speakers - $150
  
• Pre-amp: PA10 High Fidelity Phono Preamp - $80
  
  Orbit Plus - $550
  
  
• Edifier R1700BT Speakers - $150
  
• Built in Pre-amp included
  
• Cue Lever - $40

Cookeville itself isn't horrible, but everything will be a good time but you didn't notice due to fapping. They're a thug if a black person can use them to gain reach and use it as an iconic hiphop symbol. https://www.amazon.ca/Yellow-Plastic-Vinyl-Record-Adaptor/dp/B00I7IRKHI.

Pretty sure this is a good explanation.

Another option is to record your used vinyl(i say used because you want it to be dirty!) and record it to MP3(so you can use it on your laptop). It should retain all the dirt and grit.

Really, you basically want to find all your samples on vinyl or cassette so you can get the sound you want.

My grandparents have this.

It can record vinyl and cassette to mp3 or CD! That'd be real good for getting a dirty sound.

Another thing i noticed with knxwledge and other guys is they don't really spend time mixing. Especially knxwledge, he just makes the beat, adjusts things a little, and moves on it seems.

This: https://www.amazon.com/Teac-TN-300SE-MB-Analog-Turntable-Matte/dp/B075CNXY1G/ref=dp_ob_title_ce?dpID=41xwR4NGdwL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=detail I have two of these, and I like them better than my U-Turn. Aesthetically, they are similar, and the TEAC has a cue-lever and a knob for easily switching between 33/45. and for $179, you really can't go wrong. Seriously, this is a no-brainer for me.

The carbon arms on the pro-ject debuts are really quite good. Apart from that I'd have to say it's a lateral upgrade at best. There's a version with a dc speed controller that might be a step up in speed stability. If you do go down this route, however - why not keep the AT on the Dual if you're not getting rid of it? The ortofons that come on the debut carbons are very decent cartridges. You could also consider the used market.

My little Crosley unit works great, and even has a thumb drive port to rip records to MP3. It has built-in speakers, and an Extra speaker jacks in the back, so I have speakers around the room. It also plays cds and has an SD card reader. The record player does all 33,45,78 speeds

Or something like this new Victrola, which has Bluetooth capabilities

I use Stanton st60s (I believe a predecessor to these Stanton's) and I love them; however, I play EDM and all I really use the turntable for is queuing and beat matching. I would not recommend these if you want to learn to scratch, and they are definitely not suitable for any turntablism. The torque is too low to bring the record from 0-33/45 rpm fast enough to do the kind of techniques turntablists use.

Edit: Stanton does make some turntables that have enough torque for scratching and tunrtablism. The Str8 80, 100, 150 all have plenty of torque, and they are most likely to be cheaper than 1200s

Stanton Str8 80

Stanton Str8 100

AT LP-120

Edit: The LP-120 is awesome. Here’s a link they are on sale at amazon right now. Use the extra $$ to get some extra accessories like a scale, a brush, plastic sleeves for your records, maybe a cleaning kit, a cork or leather mat, etc

I have the same one in black! Amazon even messed up and sent the one with the built in preamp even though I ordered the standard version so that was a nice surprise. Sounds great, I love it. I haven't used it, but I heard the Q UP tonearm lifter will give it that auto return feature (or at least auto up at the end of a record)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008OAMD26/?coliid=I2H3ZD4KIBLGXQ&colid=19JX77NIBL7H0&psc=1

Eh, it's fine. You'd probably be better off just buying them individually... and getting the new version of that table, the AT-LP60X... and maybe save a hundo or so by getting these Edifier speakers.

well entry level price but still reliable and won't damage the vinyls. or can we do something about it by putting high quality needle head on cheap players?

i mean i saw some cheaper than entry players that has built in speaker and RCA output:
https://www.amazon.com/Musitrend-3-Speed-Turntable-Speakers-Recording/dp/B01HTBWN2U

also wondering for vintage players around 60's-70's what type of connection are required for the setup and are they generally better quality than modern players?

[i bought the weight off amazon.](BigBen Record Weight Stabilizer | Black Matte | Made in USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BMWI49I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_FLBRybRCTZ8RK) . It works with my platter and a cork mat.


As for the Peachtree I love it. I have it paired with B&W CM6 S2 speakers and it really drives them well.

The “special edition” is currently $185 on Amazon. Has been down to $146 in the last few months, but this is still an excellent price.

Teac TN-300SE-WA Analog Belt Drive Turntable, Walnut https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075CP5RL1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_p6ZJAbNAFKWS9

Trying to get into vinyl and find a table that won't ruin records but also won't break my poor college student wallet. I was looking at the U-turn Orbit but found the Teac TN-300 ( https://www.amazon.com/Teac-TN-300SE-MB-Analog-Turntable-Matte/dp/B075CNXY1G/ref=sr_1_44?s=aht&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1519617526&sr=1-44&refinements=p_72%3A1248879011%2Cp_n_condition-type%3A2224371011%2Cp_85%3A2470955011&th=1 ) and was reading some reviews about it on here but am a little confused on the overall concensus on it. Worth it for a first table? Thanks, r/vinyl

Thanks for the help. The cartridge is the same one that came with the product. It hasn't been replaced. It looks exactly the same as the one that is on the product picture on this amazon page. Also pictured is the Audio Technica stylus that came with the turntable (or at least, it looks exactly the same as the one I have here). I can't find any information on the cartridge itself, so I don't know where to go from there.

I can't decide on a turn table and it's down to theTeac TN-300SE-MB or the Monolith by Monoprice. Which should I get? I might be able to raise my budget a little bit if there's one that's like <$50 more that's objectively better

What's the take on record weights? I'm very curious about them and interested in trying one. I found this one on Amazon. The reason I've picked this one is the price and the brand. I have the Hudson Hi-Fi acrylic platter (which I love). But my main concern is that I have the Audio-Technica LP60 turntable which is belt driven. Would the added extra weight wear down the belt faster or even wear down the motor?

Hey guys. I need a new turntable.

I have a Yamaha A-S801 driving a pair of Klipsch RF-7ii

I'm deciding between a [Pro-ject DC Carbon] (https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-DC-Black/dp/B00IIMXATU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1486155518&sr=8-3&keywords=pro-ject+debut+carbon) and a [Rega Planar 2] (https://www.amazon.com/Rega-Planar-2-Turntable-Black/dp/B01KVLHAS2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1486155543&sr=8-2&keywords=rega+rp2)

I'm leaning towards the Pro-ject to save some money. Do you think this is the wise choice or will I be missing out?

I own this: Crosley CR704C-PA Musician 3-Speed Turntable with CD/Cassette Player and Portable Audio Ready (Paprika) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001W6WN3S/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_gy3fvb0Q70ZA8

I'd like to upgrade, but, I really want an out of the box experience. I have no interest in setting up separate components. I'm looking at a budget of up to $400.00.

I don't have any real preferences as far as the aesthetics and can work just about any style of system into the living room decor.

Any recommendations?

Also went through multiple units as I couldn't be OK with the ocean like waves with the platters, one of which the needle would completely jump off the record. For an Amazon purchase in the similar price realm I would go for the music Hall mmf 2.2 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001FUF8FQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485866330&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=music+hall+turntable&dpPl=1&dpID=417FuioIVOL&ref=plSrch, has a project tonearm and similar to an essentials table with the power switch in a better location

Victrola Vintage 3-Speed...


Works great!

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Is it a good idea to pick up an Audio-Technica LP 120? It's $300 CAD, $80 off on Amazon currently. I got a cheap Ion currently and it's terrible. I think anything would be an upgrade at this point, but I'm wondering if this is the right direction. A local pawn shop is selling a Technics SL-D202 for $50 CAD but it requires a new needle (and cartridge probably). The rubber mat looks a little rough too. Hopefully wouldn't be too hard to find a replacement. I don't want this to become a project that's going to require me hundreds of dollars to be constantly fixing though. Any thoughts?

Crosley Musician Entertainment Center (Paprika)
http://amzn.com/B001W6WN3S

I WANT THIS SO FREAKING BAD. Like, so bad. I want to start collecting vinyl (I have A few already), but I don't have a record player :( and this one is soooo pretty!!

And is really like any of the book pendants!

> Victoria record player

Do you by any chance mean Victrola, and a device like this?

You might benefit from one of these.

I left mine spinning for about 6 hours in dead wax one night, so I bought a Q-up and haven't looked back. It's kind of a bitch to "install" (I say "install" because it's just really sticky tape), but it works great and I can smoke & space out all I want now.

Don’t know what your price range is but I have this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Victrola-Nostalgic-Bluetooth-Turntable-Entertainment/dp/B00NQL8Z16?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_6

I like it because it not only players records but has a CD player, Bluetooth connection and radio

Just so you know, you can install a QUP on most turntables. It lifts the arm up when it hits the end. This alleviates the "vinyl keeps playing when I fall asleep" issue. I have one on my Pro-Ject and it works really well.

If you get adventurous here is a step by step as to how to repaint that exact turntable

http://boards.vinylcollective.com/topic/124841-my-dumb-debut-carbon-re-paint-project/


As for the adapters, they can be had for very cheap from ebay / amazon.

e.g. https://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Plastic-Vinyl-Record-Adaptor/dp/B00I7IRKHI/

Victrola Nostalgic Classic Wood 6-in-1 Bluetooth Turntable Entertainment Center, Mahogany.

Soundlab? Are they ok? http://www.amazon.co.uk/SoundLAB-Professional-Turntable-Audacity-Software/dp/B000UH0QPW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450055702&sr=8-1&keywords=soundlab

Reviews seem favourable