Reddit mentions: The best inkjet computer printer ink

While I don't have Kon-Peki, I do have plenty of Iroshizuku ink, and they all handle really well on low quality paper.

I've got three different inks with me today and some crappy paper and I want to show you something.

Here is the image in question.

The first ink is Pilot Iroshizuku Kosumosu.
The second is J Herbin Eclat de Saphir.
The third is Noodler's Heart of Darkness.

If you look at these three inks, you will notice that the Iroshizuku does not feather(well maybe just a bit), that the J Herbin feathers a lot, and that the Noodler's feathers a little. In my opinion, the Iroshizuku is the best behaved of these three.

This is interesting to me for a couple of reasons. The first reason is the nib sizes that were used. Generally, the more ink that goes down, the more feathering there is. The iroshizuku was written with a medium nib, the J Herbin with a fine, and the Noodler's with an extra fine. From just knowing this information, I would expect the Iroshizuku to weather the most, followed by J Herbin, and then Noodler's.

The second reason is because of the way that these inks are known to behave. J Herbin inks are not known to behave super well, so I'll ignore that one for now. Noodler's Heart of Darkness, however is well known for being resistant to feathering.
Taken directly from Gouletpens.com:

> This ink is popular for its very dark color and performance on absorbent paper, particularly its ability to resist bleed through and feathering.

Now, with an extra fine nib, you would expect this pen to be the best of the three, but it is not. The Iroshizuku ink is the best behaved, and in my opinion.. It may be feathering a bit, but I bet if I had it in an extra fine nib like the Noodler's, it wouldn't at all.

Now I've never used X-Feather, but from what you said you will be using it for, I think Iroshizuku would be fine, and you won't regret it when you have some nice paper for it too, If you can tell, even on this crappy paper, it shades like crazy.

You said you want black. Check out these three: Take-Sumi, Kiri-Same, and Fuyu-Syogun. Those last two are basically black but a bit different for some fun. I have Kiri-Same but haven't had time to use it yet, but from the pictures it looks beautiful.

One more thing to note: Iroshizuku inks are not water resistant.

With all of that being said, I promise I am not trying to persuade you into buying a certain ink, but rather I am trying to give you my opinion. I personally love Iroshizuku ink, and i think that they are fine on bad paper. They shade beautifully and resist feathering and bleeding. But if you are really looking for a lot of ink, or possibly the most bang for your buck, Noodler's is great. (If you are really trying to get the best bang for your buck, check out this.)

I just took another picture of the ink in case the last one wasn't good enough.

Not sure what your major is because it matters. As a Psych major, I have been quite happy with my MacBook Pro. Thing thing I like the most is the immediate boot time and compatibility with nearly everyone on campus. I had to laugh out loud during a class that I TA'd for last semester. 80 students in the class and almost every single student had a PC out. 99% of them were some form of Apple notebook. At about $1K each on average, I was staring at about $80,000-$90,000 worth of computers.

As far as printers go, YES, you will want one. Printing at JMU is not cheap. Especially if you have a major/class that requires a lot of research and document printing. Pro tip: Find a printer that they make aftermarket ink for on Amazon, like the Canon MX892 All In One . It's an older printer model but has served me well during school and it works with my Windows PC, my MacBook Pro, and printing PDFs from my Note4. (Note: I looked for it, but they aren't really available anymore. I posted a link to a newer version below.)

Keep in mind that printer failures suck so you'll likely want to go with a good brand. Most of them have gone to chipped cartridges, so finding aftermarket chipped ink on new printer models/ink cartridges may be difficult. For example, the Canon printer that the JMU bookstore sells does not have the aftermarket ink available yet because of a new cartridge design. The cost of the ink for one set is $65+.

The ink from Amazon is about $14 for four full sets of cartridges. It looks just as good and lasts just as long as the Canon name brand for a quarter of the price. It has saved me a ton of money when printing research from home.

Amazon has the Canon Pixma MX992 for $96 with Prime Shipping. HSN.com has it for about $70. I am not sure about the shipping cost.

This printer has aftermarket ink available.

I hope this helps. Good luck in your studies and welcome to JMU.

Your budget is extremely small for a "pro" color printer. The most bang for the buck would probably be Brother MFC-J4620DW. This printer/scanner/fax combo unit is $129 after rebate directly from Brother (see link below), or only $109 from Amazon.com. It allows you to print up to 11x17" a single sheet at a time (150-sheet paper tray is 8.5x11"). Both Ethernet and Wi-Fi are included, supports Scan-to-Cloud (Google Drive, Dropbox, etc.), razor-sharp 6000x1200dpi printing, and it comes with a 2-year warranty.

You will be hard-pressed to find these features in any other printer at this price point. This is perfect for producing high quality prints on a very small budget. Pick up some good 11x17" inkjet paper and you'll be able to easily crank out tons of beautiful large format photos and artwork.

http://www.brothermall.com/MFC/Model/MFCJ4620DW/Overview

https://www.amazon.com/Brother-MFCJ4620DW-Wireless-Compact-Replenishment/dp/B00LJEFAOM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468878701&sr=8-1&keywords=MFC-J4620DW

The best part is that you can easily get generic ink for this printer which will save you tons of money vs. buying name brand.

https://www.amazon.com/Multifunction-MFC-J4320DW-MFC-J4420DW-MFC-J4620DW-MFC-J5620DW/dp/B014WSZGHW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468855791&sr=8-1&keywords=MFC-J4620DW+ink

https://www.amazon.com/Epson-Presentation-Inches-Sheets-S041070/dp/B00004Z6FC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468863162&sr=8-1&keywords=11x17+inkjet+matte

Someone already made a list of price ratios here but it's only for Goulet Pens. Noodler's and Monteverde tops it with 7.2ml per dollar. It would honestly be pretty impossible to do the same for Amazon since the prices and shipping costs all fluctuate. If you want the best bang for buck, you should just get one of these 350ml Pilot bottles.

My thoughts on some of these things:

• Skip the Keurig. The only thing better than coffee is coffee that tastes good. There are a million ways to make good coffee with a hot water kettle and different types of relatively cheap tools like a french press. If thats too manual shoot for a drip machine that is SCAA certified. Bonavita makes a few that are not that much more expensive than a keurig and you are not tied to the week coffee coming out of pod machines.
  
  
• Second Monitor. I am a big fan of not looking at a laptop screen all day. I would go one step further and try to get a desktop with its own monitor. nothing like being able to jump on a desktop instead of plugging in a bunch of stuff to a laptop. More cost though.
  
• Bose headphones get the job done, but I can't spend 300 bucks on these kind of headphones. Monoprice 8323 get the job done for me. They don't have active noise canceling but keep a lot of sound out based on the over the ear design. They also cost 16 bucks.
  
• In undergrad I had a laser print and it was great but then I got turned on to Brother inkjet printers. The carts are not as efficient as a laser printer one, but brother knock off ones (likely what you would be buying for the laser anyways) are hella cheap for ink jet and you get the benefit of the wireless/all in one being cheaper and printing in color.
  
• External harddrive is a great idea and everyone should be using one in conjunction with a cloud service or services. Your laptop and external harddrive could be in the same bag/house/car/airplane/whatever and get lost/stolen/destroyed/peed on.
  
• These are my preferred highlighters

Canon Pixma for the win. I own two of them (ip8720 large format) and have printed on 100# cover for the last 4-5 years. Buying ink cartridges non-OEM on Amazon (CLI-250 etc) is super cheap and the color prints fantastic.

I've been able to purchase just color cartridges for <$2 a tank and not worry about black inks...and yeah the non OEMs probably last 75% as long but it's still WAY cheaper - and for other printers I've had the Pixma inks are the cheapest to replace compared to my Epson workforce and Dell laser printer. They are also the most reliable. Have printed thousands of cards, hundreds of full color planners and more. Solid colors over large areas...textured, etc. Cleaning the printhead and taking it out, as well as realigning the print head is super easy compared to all other printers I’ve owned (Epson, Dell, etc) cost is <$200.

go to amazon. look up cheap printer ink. like this kind. on that page look under "product description" and look at the long list under "compatibility." Look up those printers, like the PIXMA MX922. And then buy that brand of printer with the ink. That printer in particular is only 3.5/5 stars so I probably wouldn't get it, but you can find the one that has both the price and the features you want. If you searched all the compatible printers and don't find one you like, then search for a different generic ink and check out that one's list. I ended up paying $50 for my printer, and $15 for a large set of ink. good luck!

I can't recommend a printer, but I do recommend that you look into getting a CIS (Continuous Ink System), and buy your printer based on whether there's a CIS available for it.

It's by far the cheapest option for inkjet printing, and if you're spending so much per week just on cheap no-brand cartridges, you'll probably save a considerable amount of money.

I'm not sure how much you're paying per cartridge or what cartridges you're buying, but I see J6920DW compatible cartridges for £13.69 for two sets. The colour cartridges hold 10ml each, and the black cartridges hold 16ml. For comparison, I found ink refill bottles for £2.41 for 100ml of each colour. That's about 28 times cheaper.


Alternatively, you could also look into getting a laser printer.

If you do decide to go for the CIS option, I'd be interested to know how much money you save.

You'll probably have a hard time finding a better value on ink than basic Pilot Black in the 350ml bottle. I'm not certain where you can get a sample of this ink, because I never suggest people with exacting standards purchase a bottle without trying it a bit first. That said, I've had two nibmasters work on my pens while using the Blue/Black in the same line, and I ended up buying a bottle. Really nice ink, bonus that it is waterproof. For someone who uses as much ink as you do, this could be a great match for you.

I had a couple of Epson WF-3640 All in One printers. Output was great, but unfortunately I didn't use them enough and the nozzles clogged from lack of use. Most of my ink consumption was to clean the nozzles, until they would not clear. And... as expected, the ink was pricey. I gave up on the Epson printers as I still don't print a lot in color.

The replacement is a Canon PIXMA iX6820 along with a box of replacement ink carts from Arthur Imaging. This printer has sat for months with no adverse issues. The replacement ink was inexpensive - about $20 for 28 assorted carts. We can't see any difference between the Canon and Arthur Imaging inks. We haven't done stickers yet, but have printed on regular and photo papers as well as card stock. We have made magnets by printing on paper, attaching to a magnet sheet and cutting out the photo. A lamination kit helps protect them from the weather if used outdoors. We've also made gift tags, 4 x 6 recipe cards, and address labels using Avery products with Avery templates and other templates we found online.

Here is a link to the printer and ink on Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Business-Printer-AirPrint-Compatible/dp/B00HM0IVDY and https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073GFCL8L/ref=emc_b_5_t. It supports wireless but I have it wired.

I'm not sure if you need a special type of ink for the stickers, but if this meets your requirements, I would consider this or another similar Canon printer.

Wow. From $21,000 to $12.99. This should be on r/UnethicalBestOf or something.

I'm proud of how much money we've saved this hypothetical-unethical poor person. I just hope he doesn't get diabetes from all this free fast food he'll be getting.

EDIT: turns out r/UnethicalBestOf wasn't even a real thing, but I went ahead and created it, that's how proud I am.

For good quality inexpensive "everyday ink" ink you cant go wrong with pilot black or pelikan 4001 black (they are a wet and dry ink respectively). Jet pens has a nive overview of some good of different black and blue inks to consider. If you want to be economical you can get a giant bottle of pilot ink that will last a looong time.

If you want more color I would say most brands are fine though as a beginner I would steer clear of super sheen organic studio inks as they are annoying to use (dry out the pen, smudge even days after writing)

I did try Wilko's and Ryman's, both of which I thought were the best bets for printer cartridges. I can't really think of which other common shops might have them, maybe WH Smiths? All of those were fairly expensive, and only new.

I'll check out Amazon as well, this seems like a good deal. Frustratingly no mention of the quantity of ink it seems, so impossible to compare with the other sites. It's still very cheap, and probably worth getting for the extra security of Amazon.

I'm a graphic design student and I'm running out of pencils and other things... Honestly, we're printing a lot and are having tons of files.

• 3.76€ / 4.07 USD - 3x Faber Castell Pencils 2B
  
• 12.30€ / 13.32 USD - 12x Faber Castell Pencils 2B
  
• 0.65€ / 0.70 USD - Faber Castell Eraser
  
• 28.90€ / 31.30 USD - Canon Ink PG510 + PG511 Multipack
  
• 8.83€ / 9.58 USD - Kingston USB 3.0 15GB
  
  I hope I did everything correctly. :) Here's my wishlist as well: http://www.amazon.de/registry/wishlist/21Y47OPF5FIIT

The Quink black you have is a good ink that is widely available at a good price as long as you're not concerned about water resistance. A couple of really popular, very affordable options if you want some water resistance are either Pilot Black (also in ridiculously large bottles if that's your thing) or Noodler's Black or Heart of Darkness. You could also go with Noodler's Black Eel, which would help keep the piston lubricated in your 2k.

Amazon .FR has some Metropolitans labelled MR and some not. NOW I know.

There are still a few old school French teachers who require students to write with fountain pens. Erasable ink cartridges for fountain pens are so common that you can buy them at the supermarket. S. uses fountain pens for all her classes because she found she likes them. (On principle as the mod of /r/typewriterrepair, I must disapprove of my child liking such a primitive writing implement.)

These were just the first erasable [cartridges I found.](
https://www.amazon.fr/Schneider-cartouches-dencre-effa%C3%A7able-Royale/dp/B0013JN2PM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1483555647&sr=8-2&keywords=encre+effacable+cartouche) The generic ones she gets from the supermarket seem to work pretty well. This is the erasable Ink we will use with the squeeze cartridge the pen came with.

The only place I've heard of the tempered glass screen protectors is on eBay, and now it looks like Amazon has them too.

It says HORI on them, but they all come from China, and even HORI's official site doesn't show anything that's tempered glass for the "New" systems. I think that's enough reason to suspect they're not actually HORI authentic, but that's the only tempered glass I know of.

And welcome to the club! I know the feel of treating my system like a baby too lol.

I've got a Brother inkjet that accepts third party ink cartridges. Was $15 for 10, yes, 10, ink cartridges. I placed the order last year and still haven't gone through the first batch. Well, second black, but it comes with 4 of those, and 2 of each color.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GSZ7D2Y

I'm never buying a different printer as long as this one lives. It's got WiFi, Google print, auto document feeder, great scanner, and prints at a decent speed.

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I recommend Kodak's the ink is pretty cheap, and you can get one with some pretty nice features such as wifi, computer-less printing and what-not. They're pretty reasonably priced as well, in the $60 to $120 range for a well equipped model.

IMO, portable printers suck. always have. They just can't pack in the fidelity and keep up with the portability.. maybe in time, but I've been waiting almost 30 years soooo.... yeah.

I know everyone is saying go laser, but if you want to print color I have an epson artisan 835 which I got at staples for $50 (probably not normal price) and a CIS continuous ink system for 30 http://www.amazon.com/System-Epson-Rx580-Rx680-Rx595/dp/B001KSZTM0/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335817470&sr=1-3 You get a huge refillable resivoir system for super cheap and it lasts forever. Refills are even cheaper.

I have an epson 835 with a CISS and it's fantastic. For less than the cost of a complete catridge changeout, I got the CISS, and some extra ink. It's run like a hose for 2 years and fit all of my color printing, scanning, and faxing needs. It's been through thousands of pages, just started on the second set of refill bottles, and still not a single dead bit on the print heads. With the CISS it's still cheaper than any laser around.

Tip: If you like Namiki Black (as I do) you can get a 350ml bottle of Pilot Black (the same ink) for $22 via Amazon Prime.

I use a ton of ink and enjoy the large quantity. That's basically a soda bottle -- 11.8 ounces.

You can also get Blue Black and Red in the same size. It's a nice trio of affordable basic ink.

• PS. Don't get the "Pilot Drawing Ink" which looks almost identical. That's india ink. The one I linked above is the same as your Namiki Black.

Pilot black ink 350ml cost you like $22 via Amazon USA. Great ink. See here Ink 350ml INK350B (japan import) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001P2XUAY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_P5vrzbF91036J

I recommend trying Pilot's too. I did Quink and it back to back and found the latter better lubricated. I tested this with a juicy Waterman Phileas, various Jinhaos, and a fine Wing Sung 698.

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https://www.amazon.com/Ink-350ml-INK350B-japan-import/dp/B001P2XUAY/ref=pd_sim_229_1/134-7712605-0769349?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001P2XUAY&pd_rd_r=a1014561-71f2-11e9-ad11-c3d8451968d7&pd_rd_w=jiEuX&pd_rd_wg=FS046&pf_rd_p=90485860-83e9-4fd9-b838-b28a9b7fda30&pf_rd_r=XS0RYV2XMRB274ZR13SW&psc=1&refRID=XS0RYV2XMRB274ZR13SW

Ok thanks. How long should it take to dry? In a science exam I will need to turn the page very quickly so I can't really wait for long. I ordered the pen to write faster and not get cramp so that could be an issue.
This is the ink I ordered https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003VW13ZU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B3OL8RG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They work great!

u/powerful-witch is correct! It's this one from Muji. I use it for my inks that have sheen or whatever neat thing, since it's cheaper and I don't feel like I'm risking ruining anything with it. It doesn't come with a converter, but I got this one and it works just splendidly.

I've had a Brother that I got almost 7 years ago now. It prints slow, and the colors are a little muddled, but I can say without a doubt it's still the best printer I've ever had. You can get a 4 pack of CMYK for like $12 on Amazon, it prints way longer after it warns you colors are low, and I've had in that I didn't use for 2 years while my printer was in storage and as soon as I started it back up it could print again.

Now only if I could get to stop running out of paper...

Edit: Also wanted to mention it's the only printer I've never had issues with hooking up and connecting to Wifi. All of their drivers are online, and you can still scan with no ink.

I used to be a process engineer for a large printing company. We hand hundreds of epson inkjets going at any given time, and each one used a continuous ink system such as seen here http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001KSZTM0
No major issues when compared to OEM carts, and much cheaper and easier to maintain this way.

No problems!

Fountain pens can be filled by a number of ways. Cartridges are "bullets" of pre-filled ink which you simply insert into the pen, and swap out for a new one when it runs empty (see here). Converters, on the other hand, looks very similar and functions as a cartridge. However, it comes empty, you have to fill it up yourself (with ink purchased separately), and refill it when it runs empty. The advantage of this is that you can use your own preferred ink, since cartridges are pre-filled and you might not like the supplied colour, consistency etc (see here). Pistons are what's seen in higher end pens, like the Montblancs and Pelikans, where you simply dip the pen tip into the ink well and turn a piston (located on the barrel) to suck up the ink into the pen. The advantage of this is the capacity is much, much larger than cartridges or converters (from my eyeballing, at least 5 or 6 times larger). There're also other methods of filling such as rubber sacs and eyedroppers, but they're usually found in vintage pens and are much rarer in pens made today.

Left handedness shouldn't affect your fountain pen usage, especially with a stock (i.e. out of the box) nib which comes with a Lamy Safari. The nib tip in this case is round, so essentially the same shape as a rollerball. It'll be able to write in any direction and feel the same way in each direction. The difference is that ink may take a little longer to dry and you want to avoid smudging it, but since you're lefthanded you're probably aware of this already. The issue of lefthandedness only comes in if you want to customise your nib tip - in that case, the direction of writing can result in a lot of interesting results (see here for examples). However, as a beginner, a standard nib will not be affected by handedness.

Pilot Black is pretty cheap per milliliter and works decently on cheap paper. It's not the blackest though.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B3OL8RG?cache=264302404b3507a28a5c78b4296ffe1d&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&qid=1406406329&sr=8-28#ref=mp_s_a_1_28

I got these. I haven't had to use them yet. But might help?

Not to slight Himiko, but I think the converter is overwhelmingly the way to go over refilling cartridges (something required for some pens but inherently messy, they wear out, and it's not a great experience A for your first fountain pen). I have this one that works perfectly in my Muji. I have heard that most international converters leak in this pen, so I'd be careful to get either this one, or I guess the Schmidt that Himiko mentions above, although I don't have the link for it. I know that everyone has preferences on something so subjective, but I'll also suggest that you buy yourself a bottle of Diamine or Iroshizuku ink first time around, you'll be obsessed in no time. I mean, there's a ton of wonderful ink out there, but both of these brands are so well behaved on all paper, and and have very few duds. Make sure it says 'fountain pen' on the front, as dip-pen ink will ruin your pen. Oh, and welcome to the world of Fountain Pens!

Bungbox? The Sailor ones? Yeah, they’re quite cheap.

Can’t beat that per ml though: Pilot 350 ml bottles, black, blue black, red.

Depends on which model you get. I have the Starwalker Extreme (in black) and am using a Pelikan Converter Link.
While investigating which the issue, I heard about Pelikan, Schmidt K5 and Faber Castell converters working.

I’d recommend going to a nearby shop that sells one of these converters and seeing if it fits.

It should be all over Amazon. You just have to look at the ink code on your specific cartridge (I think mine is LC103) and search it on amazon and possibly even eBay where you might find a direct China seller even cheaper.

yes it is, I was actually cleaning it up to try out the pelikan converter, which I've just put in right now. So far so good, but I'll report back tomorrow in case of leaks!

For people who want to keep the inkjet printer, there are ciss systems that allows cheap refill. You just have to find one that works with your model.

This isn’t exactly answering your question, but if you don’t go for the fancy stuff, there are some pretty affordable inks out there

I don't know how much it would cost in Europe, but Pilot is quite cheap in America, especially if you buy it in large bottles. Here's a 350ml (almost 12oz) bottle of black ink for 20 USD. It's also available in blue-black and red. That comes in at

http://www.amazon.com/syringe-blunt-needle-refill-cartridge/dp/B00B3OL8RG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1397422227&sr=8-5&keywords=blunt+tip+syringe

Pilot Namiki Black, link.

Edit: Alternatively, if you need a lot of black ink, this is the same but...bigger to say the least.

Here is the best converter really.

Actually you can just get the goulet syringes too, however I got these, and the only real problem it is difficult to not overfill the cartridge because it is a 10 ml syringe.