Just so people know, the price on Amazon for the 970 EVO 250GB dropped to $109 just now https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-250GB-MZ-V7E250BW/dp/B07BN5FJZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525706644&sr=8-1&keywords=SAMSUNG+970+EVO+M.2+2280

Doing my own research, I got the following:

• Corsair Vengeance 32GB 2666MHz = $278
  
• 9900K couldn't find in stock anywhere (it's too new) but VentureBeat says it's $580 so let's go with $600
  
• Samsung 250GB NVMe as you say = $100
  
• The power supply is visible in the product video and it's an FSP Dagger 600W = $110
  
• No MOBO info, so let's go with your $150
  
  So a total of $1238, which leaves $664 for in-house design, assembly, manufacturing, shipping and profit for a company that does everything in the US, not China. By my math, that is pretty damn good.

Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07BN5FJZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_CCw6BbCW6Q05P

I'm just stating the they are on sale on Amazon for $88 with warranty for sure and brand new.

[For Sale] $75 New unopened 250GB Samsung 970 Evo m.2 Amazon Link

If you don't want to open up your laptop, you could buy a 2.5 Inch ssd and an enclosure

Which model G3 15 do you have? You probably have a slot for an m.2 SSD, so you wouldn't have to replace your hard drive.

The NVME brand new Samsung 970 evo is $87.99 for 250gb
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-250GB-MZ-V7E250BW/dp/B07BN5FJZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541012214&sr=8-1&keywords=250gb+970+evo

$147.99 for 500gb and $277.99 for 1tb

Doesn't look like it. Do yourself a favor and get one, it's a great and cheap upgrade. Make sure your motherboard supports one first, however.

OK, so you must have the smaller battery then.

Either way, you can absolutely install windows on the HDD- you just need to point the installation to the second partition (the 1Tb drive). The HDD will be painfully slow though. I'd recommend getting a larger m.2 hard disk to replace the original (and practically useless) 32Gb one, with something larger for your OS and applications. You can still use the HDD for extra storage capacity.

Pick up an M.2 NVMe drive in the capacity you need:

250Gb Samsung 970 MVMe (ridiculously faster than the HDD) - about $100

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-250GB-MZ-V7E250BW/dp/B07BN5FJZQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1527629622&sr=8-3&keywords=m.2+ssd+nvme

Install guide and instructions here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/xps15-9550-4945-32gb-cache-ssd-upgrade.787418/

I'm looking to expand the storage on my Dell XPS 9360 (i5 7200u, 8GB RAM) with an M.2 SSD. To be honest the M.2 slot is a pain to wrap my head around, and I wanted to check with you guys if I understood correctly. I have a few questions:

1. SATA vs NVME (I've read that the 9360 is capped at around 1.8Gb/s), would it be worth it to go for the NVME drive?
   
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2. I'm currently looking at the 970 Evo, but it has an "M key" slot, while in this teardown, the SSD installed seems to be a "B & M key" slot. Would something like the 970 Evo fit?
   
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   3)From my (very) limited understanding it seems like the 860 Evo would be a good option, as it has the same connectors and has double storage for the money of the NVME drives. I'm also considering the marginally cheaper WD Blue 3D SSD as this is the one used by the poster of the teardown and it may help minimize any unforeseen issues I may have.
   
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   I really hope to get some of you guys's input on this as I really want to make sure I'm making the right buy. Thanks!

install CrystalDiskInfo and check that there are no error on the S.M.A.R.T test.

SSDs are cheap right now u could buy one the diffrence day and night

and for the ram test it with memtest86

Edit: and last thing u can do is to use tronscript this will take long time (overnight is the best time for it) but make the OS bit fast and safe

Edit 2.0: btw the SSD is like this m.2 NVMe or sata is like this

That's a lot of money to pay for an 850 EVO. You can get the 970 EVO NVME SSD for the same money (do that, they're way faster! and your board has 2 m.2 ports) https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-250GB-MZ-V7E250BW/dp/B07BN5FJZQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1542961538&sr=1-3&keywords=nvme+ssd

Then upgrade your storage space or delete stuff you no longer need? Storage space is very cheap nowadays, both mechanical and SSD (don't go for hybrids aka SSHD - they suck). The exception to this is M.2 which is still somewhat expensive depending on where you look. If you're on console, you can upgrade to a 7200RPM HDD:

https://www.amazon.com/Notebook-Laptop-Drive-Playstation-MacBook/dp/B010CBASS0/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1543407783&sr=1-5&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A4682011011

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If you're on PC, you have some options, such as:

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-SSDNow-SV300S37A-120G/dp/B00A1ZTZOG

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-Internal-3-5-Inch-ST3000DM008/dp/B01IEKG4NE/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1543408185&sr=1-3&keywords=3tb+hard+drive

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-250GB-MZ-V7E250BW/dp/B07BN5FJZQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1543408217&sr=1-3&keywords=m.2

Watch out; "M.2" is simply an SSD form-factor. If you're looking for a super-fast (but more expensive) SSD, what you should be looking for is an "NVMe M.2 SSD". The keyword here is "NVMe", which is the interface that blesses an SSD with extremely high speeds. An example of this would be the Samsung 970 EVO.

If you're looking for a regular-fast (and cheaper) SSD, what you're looking for is a "SATA M.2 SSD". The keyword here is "SATA", which is a slower interface that is limited to a max theoretical transfer speed of 6Gb/s (6 Gigabit, or 0.75 Gigabyte). An example of this would be the WD Blue M.2 SSD.



>What the speed up to on m.2?

Here's a comparison:

The Samsung 970 EVO, which uses a PCIe Gen 3.0 Interface, has a Maximum Sequential Read Speed of 3,500MB/s (spec listed on Samsung website).

The Corsair MP600 drive (listed by /u/yeezust), which uses a PCIe Gen 4.0 Interface, has a Maximum Sequential Read Speed of 4,950MB/s (spec listed on Corsair website).

Change both SSDs (~$460) to the new Samsung 970 EVO or PRO (The 250GB EVO is barely $110 and performance is SO much better)

Edit: this one

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-500GB-MZ-V7E500BW/dp/B07BN5FJZQ

That's not true, 970 EVO m.2. 250GB costs $109.99 on Amazon, 860 EVO costs around 80$. But I think that judging by the performance it's justified. Question is does one really need it?

According to Guru3d:

970 Evo m.2. 250GB has up to 3,500/2,500 MB/s sequential read/write speed compared to 550/520 MB/s sequential read/write speed of the 860 EVO 250GB. That's 5-6x faster.

970 EVO 250GB has up to 500k/480k IOPS compared to 98k/90K IOPS of 860 EVO 250GB. That's 4-5x faster.

Both have 150TB of written data warranty.

I would say that looking at this data, while trying to determine best value for money from an SSD, that I can only determine that 970 EVO is clearly better SSD than 860 EVO, (that doesn't cost a fortune). The only thing is what I mentioned in my above heavily downvoted comment for simply offering an option, that 970 EVO is not necessarily needed for an average user, unless using some extremely heavy applications.

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> Hi, I have the 2017 Gigabyte Aero 14 with the i7-7700 and GTX 1060.
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> The hard drive is a SATA Crucial MX300 525GB M.2 (2280), which claims reads/writes up to 530 / 510 MB/s.
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> Gigabytes web site says the following: Blazing-fast M.2 PCIe Gen3 X4 SSD: Reach 2000 MB/s (optional)
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> I am considering swapping to a Samsung 970 PRO ($240 USD) NVMe Series 512GB M.2 PCI-Express 3.0 x4, which claims it can reach read speeds up to 3500 MB/s and writes up to 2700 MB/s.
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> Will I see the full potential of this drive in this laptop, or will I be limited to the 2000 MB/s mentioned by Gigabyte? I suspect that number (2000 MB/s) might just be if you buy it with the upgraded drive right from Gigabyte, instead of swapping yourself.
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> Other options would be the Samsung 970 EVO ($168 USD - Read 3500 MB/s, Write 2500 MB/s), the Samsung 960 PRO ($200 USD - Read 3500 MB/s, Write 2100 MB/s), or the Samsung 960 EVO ($155 USD - Read 3200 MB/s, Write 1900 MB/s)
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> Will I notice any difference at all with the 970 PRO vs EVO? I do some gaming, video editing, and photo editing with my laptop.
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> I'm trying to stay around the $200 USD mark... Are there any other considerations I should take into account?

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> Anyone have any ideas outside of overclocking to get more frames out of your system without reducing settings. And without buying a 2000 series card, or a second 1080ti.

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> I'm looking to expand the storage on my Dell XPS 9360 (i5 7200u, 8GB RAM) with an M.2 SSD. To be honest the M.2 slot is a pain to wrap my head around, and I wanted to check with you guys if I understood correctly. I have a few questions:
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> 1) SATA vs NVME (I've read that the 9360 is capped at around 1.8Gb/s), would it be worth it to go for the NVME drive?
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> 2) I'm currently looking at the 970 Evo, but it has an "M key" slot, while in this teardown, the SSD installed seems to be a "B & M key" slot. Would something like the 970 Evo fit?
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> 3)From my (very) limited understanding it seems like the 860 Evo would be a good option, as it has the same connectors and has double storage for the money of the NVME drives. I'm also considering the marginally cheaper WD Blue 3D SSD as this is the one used by the poster of the teardown and it may help minimize any unforeseen issues I may have.
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> I really hope to get some of you guys's input on this as I really want to make sure I'm making the right buy. Thanks!

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> My laptop just died, which gives me an excuse to finally get a desktop. I was wondering about whether I should build my own mid-sized tower through /r/HarswareSwapUK or to just buy a Lenovo ThinkCentre M710q (Tiny) that, as the name implies, is extremely small. As I'm in uni, portability is a factor, but only whilst travelling back home. I reckon the price difference is around £100/$140. I'm looking at using cloud-based gaming services at the moment (have access to GeForce NOW) so the lack of a discrete GPU won't affect me right now, but that might change in the future. Also, I'll be running some fairly intensive code. Should I build the tower or just buy the Tiny PC? Sorry for being so long-winded about this.
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> TL;DR - Can't choose between tiny and large PC.
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> Edit: Typo.

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> I need to move apartment and going to sell the PC and make a new one. Thinking of going ultrawide. What is your personal (not hearsay) opinion on ultrawide monitos for non-shooter games (RPG/MMO/RTS)? I never play the usual suspects like Fortnite/CSGO/DOTA, but instead play Tycoons, RTS, FFXIV, ESO, Witcher, etc

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> My brothers pc is constantly crashing, the error message lead us to think it was a problem with a program or windows, so we tried to reinstall Windows from a usb. However, we are unable to format the drive, remove partitions, and install or repair windows. It is possible to boot into the current install of windows. Is this due to a faulty hard drive? What can we do to fix this?

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> Has anyone here put a Corsair Commander Pro in a hard drive cage? Is there enough room to comfortably connect cables on both ends?

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> Back: I Outake
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> I noticed that the lian-li case doesn't have a rear fan set up so I was thinking something like:
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> Front: intake
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> Top(Aoi radiator): intake
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> Bottom(3 120mm fans): outtake.
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> With the PSU pointing out
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>1) SATA vs NVME (I've read that the 9360 is capped at around 1.8Gb/s), would it be worth it to go for the NVME drive?

Quick little correction, it tops out at around 1.8 GB/s (with a big B). This is a big difference (1 byte (B) =8 bits (b))

As for if it's worth it, that's still about a 3x improvement over most SATA SSDs, but from personal experience, I can say that the switch from a SATA SSD to an NVMe one (even one running at full speed, usually ~3000MB/s (3GB/s) range for reads) is minor when it comes to overall system responsiveness, and even for game load times. When working with big files, the difference is much more noticeable however.


>2) I'm currently looking at the 970 Evo, but it has an "M key" slot, while in this teardown, the SSD installed seems to be a "B & M key" slot. Would something like the 970 Evo fit?

There is no such thing as an B & M key slot. B&M is found only on the drive side of things, just so SATA/PCIe 2x drives can fit in bot B and M slots. As for the slot in your device, I'm 99% sure it's an M key slot, so the 970 Evo should fit. (B key slots are generally only used for SATA only slots, and for things like Wi-Fi cards)


>3)From my (very) limited understanding it seems like the 860 Evo would be a good option, as it has the same connectors and has double storage for the money of the NVME drives. I'm also considering the marginally cheaper WD Blue 3D SSD as this is the one used by the poster of the teardown and it may help minimize any unforeseen issues I may have.

If you want to play it safe/save a buck, either of these would indeed be good options. As I said before, any real world difference (not counting working with large files) should be very minor, and to be entirely honest, I personally think it would be a waste of money to shell out the money for an NVMe drive, as you won't able to use it to it's full potential. (you'd loose about a third of the theoretical performance)

Thermaltake Smart RGB 700W 80+ 256-Color RGB Fan ATX 12V 2.3 Kaby Lake Ready Power Supply 5 Yr Warranty Power Supply PS-SPR-0700NHFAWU-1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0754S3TXS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_jcQOBbVZXH1FE
Would that be a good enough power supply

Also would this be a good enough ssd
Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BN5FJZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_cdQOBb29G0K12

Is this M.2 SSD compatible with my MSI X370 SLI Plus motherboard?

DAMN YOU!!!

DAMN YOU TO HECK!!!!

Now you got me thinking about buying either the E485 or E585 with the Ryzen 7 2700u and 1080p screen just to toy around with. I'm not made of money you know....!!!!

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I'm probably going to bump up the RAM on my own to 12GB or 16GB in total. It will be cheaper to add my own m.2 PCIe NVMe SSD on my own as well. I can buy the Samsung 970 EVO 500GB for $148 on Amazon, but I also need to spend $36 on an external case specifically for m.2 PCIe NVMe SSDs so that I can copy the OS from the hard drive to the SSD via USB connection. It's about 2x more expensive than a similar external case for m.2 SATA SSDs. For less than the $250 upgrade cost for a 256GB SSD, I can install a 500GB SSD and also keep the default 500GB HDD as a storage drive.

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Note... the discount is not ~$200. After configuring the E485 to 8GB of RAM, 1080p screen and replacing the HDD with a 256GB SSD, the price is $628 with a $157 discount. Unless the ~$200 discount was for a very limited time.

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I recommend you consider upgrading from the Ryzen 3 2200u to the Ryzen 2500u. For $50 you get a quad core APU that is relatively close to the performance of the i5-8250u CPU. Instead of getting the Vega 3 graphics core which is roughly similar to the Intel HD 520 graphic core in 6th gen Intel CPUs, you upgrade to the Vega 8 graphics core which is roughly 2x more powerful than the Intel UHD 620 graphics core in 8th gen Intel CPUs. That makes the Vega 8 roughly comparable to a nVidia 930m. Not great, but certainly better.

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The following configuration costs $528 after the discount

- AMD Ryzen 5 2500u

- 8GB of RAM - Recommend you go with 2x 4GB Sticks for better integrated graphics performance of about 10% to 20% depending on the specific game. RAM operates at full speed (Dual Channel) when there are two sticks rather than a single stick (Single Channel). Of course, if you plan on bumping up beyond a total of 8GB in the future, then just get the option for the 1 stick of 8GB RAM.

- 1080p screen

- 500GB HDD

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Unless you want to keep spending more money now just deal with the slower hard drive for the moment. But when you have more money you can buy the following items for a total of $124 which brings the total cost to $652. Spending $38 more for the configuration you were thinking about and some "elbow grease" you can have a more powerful APU (4 cores instead of only 2 cores) with a more powerful integrated graphics core and a total of 750GB of storage. Shipping and taxes not included.

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Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - $88

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-250GB-MZ-V7E250BW/dp/B07BN5FJZQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1541570053&sr=8-3&keywords=256gb+ssd+m.2+nvme

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Sintech USB External Case for PCIe NVMe - $36 (for copying the OS from HDD to SSD)

https://www.amazon.com/Sintech-NGFF-nVME-External-USB-3-1/dp/B07GPX5LWF/ref=sr_1_13?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1541570989&sr=1-13&keywords=pcie+nvme+m.2+ssd+to+usb+3.0+adapter

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Anything like this should work.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BN5FJZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_gRK3BbM4SZTMA

I would go with a better PSU like an EVGA 650w G3, also helps support upgrades if needed in the future. Personally, for an AMD build I would invest in better ram such as G.SKILL Flare X, or something else that's 3200 CAS 14 B-DIE. Solid motherboard, case is preference (I prefer a Fractal Design Meshify C), the SSD is fine but if you wanted higher startup speeds, you could also get a NVMe, same price half the storage, but quite higher speeds. Hope this helps your decision making.

I'm just saying don't spend $350 on high-end NVMe cards.

If you got an extra $85 bucks, this will definitely help frequently accessed files.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-250GB-MZ-V7E250BW/dp/B07BN5FJZQ/

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-250GB-MZ-V7E250BW/dp/B07BN5FJZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1549310173&sr=8-1&keywords=970+evo+250

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brand new 970 evo is 80 on amazon.

> Acer Aspire F 15 F5-573-50WE

I own an Acer E 15 - something or the other, and I'd be willing to bet that it's got the same lay out on the inside. Let's assume that the laptops are the same, at least as far as SSD / HDD layout is concerned....

I happen to have a parts laptop lying around. So if your laptop looks like this on the inside, it's probably safe to assume that they are basically the same. This is a small, two picture album that I took. One picture is relatively far away, with the back cover of the laptop taken off. The second picture is closer up, at an angle. You're looking at where the RAM installs, though there is no RAM installed in the laptop.

In the upper lefthand corner of the zoomed in picture, you'll see a connector hidden in the back. That is where an M.2 SSD slides in. Note how there is only one key instead of two. The key is just the piece of plastic that blocks certain items from sliding in.

I don't know the differences between they keys and the protocols, however it should be noted that while you can (most likely) fit an m.2 SSD like this one into the slot, you probably should avoid it, since it's clearly keyed for something with two keys, not one. You should get something like this, clearly keyed for the slot. Note that my links are simply given for picture reference, shop around for the right price and/or size you want. I recommend at least a 250 GB SSD, preferably closer to 500 if you can afford it.

Shoot me any more questions if you want.

P.s. The laptop has a HDD bay, as seen on the left of the zoomed out picture. That's where your HDD is located. When you open yours up, I'm sure you'll see an m.2 SSD already installed your machine. There's the one screw that holds it in place.

Also, was your laptop new or used? I had to install the SSD into mine myself. If it's used, you'll need to see which drive your OS is installed on. Simple really, remove one drive, try to boot. If you can't boot, then your OS is installed on the removed drive.

can you link what SSD because heres my install: https://gyazo.com/98ed9b5410ae298ed973d57779395017

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and ssd: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-250GB-MZ-V7E250BW/dp/B07BN5FJZQ

This is the king of the hill... With out question.

Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2