(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best boots for men

I AM IN YOUR SITUATION! Just got on this board three days ago. Spent $200 over the past three days and I've drastically improved my wardrobe.

1. Go through the right hand guides of knowing what fits you and what not. If you're an athletic type, go to /r/malefashionadvice there is a post on athletic builds if you fit that description. The most important thing is understanding what fits. I bought a medium out of shame of rather not buying a small convincing myself that the somewhat baggy look was better. I went back to smalls and I realized how much better I looked.

2. Shoes! Get yourself a pair of from what a newbie understands as "classy" shoes. You're in college so you're surrounded by meat heads, swag vags, and sweatpants wearing ants, and the occassional look at me I wear crazy shit. Most of the time, they're wearing Nikes, Addidas, Underarmor, and other shit that you probably have. You'll get the occassional mocassin and boots, but what'll make you really stand out in terms of fashion is your shoes. This is good. MFA is (in my opinion off a brief 3 day lurking): classy, mature, timeless, and just overall attractive male attire.

So! The investment I made were Brown Suede Clarks for $70 @ Journeys in NYC Best investment so far. I've never owned anything so nice yet casual as these shoes. They're extremely comfortable.

For $21 you can get Seude Oxfords at JC Penny. Another cheap and truly great shoe. Just looks plain good with anything. I got mine for $15 because I was very patient and nice to the saleswoman (mid 50s); she gave me a wink and said I'll take some off for ya.


3. Pants I would go again with the suggestion of jeans. 511 - Skinny, 514 - Slim Straight. These are Levi's obviously. I've owned Arizona, Lee, and Wrangler; Levi's are just unbeatable. For $40 and sometimes $30 you can get a pair. I would get one pair of Levi's. Make sure it's a pair you definitely would love.

One pair of Khakis. If you're in New York City, get over to Uniqlo and get yourself a pair of $30 really good quality chinos (khakis). They can be tailored in the store so don't be afraid if you see 33x36 pants or 30x34 pants. They can be cut for free. Otherwise stop by Amazon to get D1 Slims or Alphas.

GAP has a sale going on for 40% off or 30% without a coupon. They have a limited selection of pretty good quality khakis that are fitting and are decent when it comes to price ($40-$50).

4. Tops Old Navy. It was up there that their premium t-shirts are on sale for Buy One Get One Free. They're pretty good quality for $6 bucks a pop ($12 for one, so you get 2 for essentailly $6). I grabbed some myself. Theres a coupon for 10% online somewhere. I used it. However, Old Navy fits may not be so kind on you as they are with me. As their sizes scale, it scales wider; it does not scale with benevolence longer.

Graphic Tees are alright in college. Again plain simple colors/patterns will distinguish you from the highschool attire that even these 2nd semester freshies will be wearing.

For your budget, I would take your time shopping the clearance racks of most department stores. I went to JCPenny the other day and found a slim fitting GREAT purple J. Ferrar shirt for $7. For the way it fits and the decent quality, this button down shirt was an absolute steal. I also bought 2 $12 dollar button downs from Macys that happened to fit me perfectly. Again it's on where you're looking.

Polos Polos are easy to come by. Old Navy has em as do most stores. Whether you like them with a logo or plain, even Ralph Lauren Polos can be spotted on the cheap. Do you barging.

5. Outerwear Cardingans are on clearance in the Old Navy rack for $6-12. I picked up one. I picked up a great fitting hoodie from there as well for $7. Fits me perfect and shows off my muscles /flex.

If you've heard of a store called Against All Odds, they have a good selection of outwear (more swagster area and ghetto-fab), but it's better especially for the athletic fit. They have some sales and the quality isn't atrocious. You can check that out.

Thrifting Theres a thread on the side; hopefully you don't need a link.


Lets Review

• Take your time, browse accordingly. There is no need to rush.
  
• Look everywhere and always check the clearance.
  
• Make sure the clothes fit, if you like the style but are a little iffy on the fit do not buy it unless you think it'll shrink on to you.
  
  
  What I did in the past 3 days:
  
  
• $80 Clarks
  
• $22 Bass @ J C Penny's + J. Ferrar Slim Shirt
  
• $12 2 Old Navy Premium V-Neck Shirts
  
• $8 Cardingan at Old Navy
  
• $7 Hoodie at Old Navy
  
• $40 Levi 514 Jeans
  
• $30 Chinos @ Uniqlo (add 5-10 dollars for Dockers)
  
  Total: $193
  
  Hopefully that'll set you up. If you're not iffy on spending that much on Clarks, then there is more in your budget for other things like pants or underwear.
  
  Anyways, go here if you want $100 starter kits.
  
  Good Luck and let me know of your great finds.
  
  
  

> If not these, then what? You provided EXCELLENT explanations of everything that you don't like, but you've failed to suggest any non-sneaker alternatives.

I suggested sneaker alternatives because they fall in the same price range and are the same level of formality that the Skechers are meant to be. If you're looking for sharper leather shoes Clarks Desert Boots, Bucks, or a thrifted pair of Allen Edmonds McAllisters all fit the bill.

> While "you get what you pay for," you must understand that a single pair of shoes that runs $100 or more is just not something that everyone can afford.

None of these are currently $100 or more. If you can swing $60 for Skechers, you have $60-$70 for a different shoe. I'm a college student who pays my own tuition, and volunteers at the lab in my free time. The occasional odd job between those provide my entire entertainment/clothing budget. My 3 pairs of shoes are $3 thrifted black cap-toe oxfords, $19 nordstrom brand bucks, and $160 work boots I saved six months for. If $60 is too much for you your options are to wait for sales (end of a season is best for clothing), hits the thrift store, or stop worrying about fashion because you have bigger things to deal with.

> The shoes you suggested as alternatives are either skateboard shoes or a little childish.

Vans is a skate shoe company, but the authentic and authentic lo pro are clean, canvas, and unobtrusive. They have none of the faults that the problems of the Skechers. Keds are known for women's shoes, but the Champions are also sleek and unobtrusive. Same with the frequently-teenage-associated Jack Purcells, especially if you get the low top without the rubber toe cap. Again, sneakers were suggested because that was the design of the shoes in the original post. They're not the only shoes out there if you don't like them.

> Explain cheap leather to the unwashed.

In ascending order of quality

• Bonded Leather: Most super cheap leather is bonded leather. Bonded leather is leather fibers caked in glue then pressed into shape. That's what the Skechers were, and that's what you should really try to avoid for all the reasons listed in my last post.
  
  
• Suede: Suede is the bottom fibrous layer of the hide. While it looks nice and holds up better than bonded leather, it's thin and gets damaged by rain and salt. Sometimes one side is painted over to give it the appearance of top grain leather. The product is often called "genuine leather".
  
  
• Top Grain Leather: Top grain is the uppermost portion of the hide. It looks like high quality leather, as evidenced by the epidermis. It is, however, still thin and will not age well.
  
  
• Full Grain Leather: This is the full hide. It contains both the top and bottom layers unsplit. It's thick, develops a patina (wear pattern particular to leather), and if treated it will last decades.
  
  Boots and shoes with full grain leather generally start at about $150 and go up from there. Considering the cost of replacing lower quality leathers though you can often save money on the long term by buying better leather shoes first. If a $60 bonded leather shoe lasts you a year, a $300 full grain shoe need only last 5 years to cost the same and will often last far longer than that. If you need shoes right now for a job interview or to wear to work, go ahead and get some cheap oxfords or derbies. Otherwise I urge anyone to save their money for a while and get better leather.
  
  > I'd apologize for the snarkiness, but I mean it in earnest, so I won't. If you're going to attack something, fine. But try to take it a step further and recommend meaningful alternatives
  
  I understand that you feel like I attacked shoes you like and possibly own, so you feel I've attacked you or your decisions. I'd like to urge that that is not the case. The previous post was not aimed at you. It was a reply to a college kid asking what was wrong with that pair of Skechers. That's exactly what I addressed in only the detail relevant to the context. If the advice wasn't perfectly suited to fit your lifestyle as well, I'm sorry but that's what happens when you weren't the one who asked in the first place.
  
  Also, read the guides. A lot of us put a lot of work into centralizing and writing that information for everyone.

Dude thanks so much, super kind of you. To be honest, though, and I hate to sound too picky, but I don't know if I like the look of it too much. I care about looks and functionality, but a slight priority towards looks. I do, however, love the High Fidelities after seeing them again. Do you think they compare quality-wise to the ones you linked? Not sure how to tell if its stitched and the right kind of leather.

http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/eastland-high-fidelity-lace-up-boots?ID=2552758&pla_country=US&CAGPSPN=pla&CAWELAID=120156340004107868&CAAGID=21133285952&CATCI=pla-159950614112&catargetid=120156340005304774&cadevice=c&cm_mmc=Google_Mens_Shoes_PLA-_-Mens+Shoes_Boots+-+GS_Eastland-_-80915960792-_-pg95324_c_kclickid_bc17f2a4-0bcb-424c-9b76-ef11b5739e4f&trackingid=474x95324&gclid=CK_zqr6Cz9ACFctKDQodNHwD4Q


and if theres not much of a difference in quality (although I'm sure there is as this is just polyurathane, not sure how quality the eastlands are though) then I might look into these

http://www.jcpenney.com/arizona-rydell-mens-casual-lace-up-boots/prod.jump?ppId=pp5007650018&country=US&currency=USD&selectedSKUId=62570670067&selectedLotId=6257067&fromBag=true&quantity=1&cm_mmc=ShoppingFeed-_-GooglePLA-_-Lace%20Up%20Boots-_-62570670067&utm_medium=cse&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=lace%20up%20boots&utm_content=62570670067&cid=cse%7Cgoogle%7C007%20-%20footwear%20%26%20handbags%7Clace%20up%20boots_62570670067&gclid=CI6FhKDhztACFQhLDQodPTAC-A&kwid=productads-adid%5E45810122978-device%5Ec-plaid%5E76121678738-sku%5E62570670067-adType%5EPLA

thanks again, hope I dont sound ungrateful to your last suggestion haha.

Edit: Oh and in case both of those are not worth it, I have a little bit on a gift card, so i was wondering what you thought of these chukka-like boots:

https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Desert-Boot/dp/B004DCSYWW/ref=pd_lpo_309_bs_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=P97NBZCT0GSAYT3JMV04&th=1&psc=1

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?pid=256632002

Do they compare to actual boots? These are basically the 4 I've narrowed it down to, let me know what you think, thanks!

I agree with splitplug. A plainer shoe would be a better investment; they're more versatile. A nice cap-toe, balmoral, somewhat shiny black shoe would ideal. The Johnston and Murphy Melton can be had for $125 (most sizes anyway) on amazon. It's a leather soled, Goodyear welted shoe. They'll last years and are among the most quality shoes that can be bought at the price point. The next step you would be to something like AE for a few hundred, and then Alden's, etc. for a few hundred above that. Either way a Goodyear welted shoe (actually stitched on sole, not glued) is a steal for $125. I got mine recently. They haven't seen much use yet, but I've heard great things, and I'm happy with the way they feel. I hope this helps. I really recommend them. They're a good investment.

They're pretty common recommendations here on MFA, but I love my Chippewa GQ boots. They're rugged, feel solid, super comfortable, improve with age and wear, and walk a nice line between stylish and practical. They're also reasonably cheap.

I waterproofed them with some Obenauf LP, which made them a little darker than they are in this photo. They also come in a steel-toed version.

Well, what type of boot you want? There's the [Chippewa Apache Lacer that's quite popular.] (http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-20065-Handcrafted-Lace-Up-Chocolate/dp/B0036VN8N6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370619118&sr=8-1&keywords=chippewa+gq) Near $100 depending on your size. Then the ever-prominent Clark's Desert Boot. Well under $100.

Or if you're wanting more dressy, JCPenney's wingtip boot gets suprisingly good marks despite its low price. No link because it's not online, but I've seen it roaming around my local store.

These are all pretty popular MFA selections and safe bets. Don't forget if you order from Amazon to sign up for there shoe mailing list and you'll get a 20% off code. Note you can create a throwaway email & amazon account and get a new code mailed to you if you've already used this once.

PS. Yes you can wear brown boots with a blue shirt. Blue (especially navy) is the most flexible color of the rainbow.

There's really nothing safer than a mid-grey or navy suit, both of which I'd assume are interchangeable for both the interviews themselves and the meet and greet. If you're looking for brands and don't mind shopping online, Suitsupply is a great place to start (check out their purple line for <$500). The Copenhagen, Washington and Soho are their slim fits. eHaberdasher's Benjamin sartorial suit is fully canvassed, but the shipping on mine took a very long time (~15 days) and that may not be acceptable for your needs.

In-store, check out J. Crew's Ludlow suits (on a discount), J. Crew Factory's Thompson suit (by far the cheapest option here), Brooks Brothers Madison (the most expensive), or Banana Republic's Monogram. All but Brooks cost under $500.

For shoes, Johnston & Murphy's Melton is a good cheap option, but only if you don't feel like you couldn't already swing the black oxfords you own. Brown Allen Edmonds Park Avenues are a significant step up in quality and price, but you can't go wrong with a pair of brown cap toe shoes. They'll last a very long time.

I really only wear cheap belts and don't wear ties at all, so someone else could be a lot more valuable in those areas. Best of luck!

> I'd rather be comfy than be a walking billboard for polo or some shit.

I know I probably won't change your mind, so maybe this is really for anyone else who may be reading this comment thread, but you can be comfortable without looking like a walking billboard. It's actually really easy. Right now, I'm wearing:

• A shirt similar to this one (cost: $25) with the sleeves rolled up. No logos.
  
• These pants from Banana Republic (cost: $44). They're more comfortable than jeans and work with everything jeans do. Again, no logos.
  
• Clarks Desert Boots (cost: $60). Less comfortable than sneakers? Sure, but they work with anything and they last a long time. Still no logos.
  
  Is it the most exciting look? No, but it's pretty universally agreeable, relatively inexpensive, and I have no concerns about looking like I'm homeless.
  
  > Also, if you can't go a day without a shower before turning into a smelly piece of shit then I think it's you who needs a hygiene lesson.
  
  This is about appearance, not smell. If you look homeless because your hair looks bad when you're not showering, then you probably have to shower more. I have short hair, I can get away with wetting my hair and fixing it in a few minutes.
  
  > By all means, though, feel free to make snarky comments over the internet about someone else's life you have no idea about. I'm sure it will better you as a person somehow.
  
  I was asking a legit question because people assume you look homeless and you said you live out of your car despite staying at friends' places. But, sure, snarky.

>I know I probably won't change your mind, so maybe this is really for anyone else who may be reading this comment thread, but you can be comfortable without looking like a walking billboard. It's actually really easy. Right now, I'm wearing:
>
> A shirt similar to this one (cost: $25) with the sleeves rolled up. No logos.
> These pants from Banana Republic (cost: $44). They're more comfortable than jeans and work with everything jeans do. Again, no logos.
>* Clarks Desert Boots (cost: $60). Less comfortable than sneakers? Sure, but they work with anything and they last a long time. Still no logos.
>
>Is it the most exciting look? No, but it's pretty universally agreeable, relatively inexpensive, and I have no concerns about looking like I'm homeless.


That's a ~130$ outfit not including socks and underwear, though. Atm I'm wearing a $10 dollar shirt, a pair of 4 for $20 basketball shorts, and my shoes were $45 I believe? Maybe these are my $60 shoes, idk. They're similar, but these ones look less fancy and are more comfy. Not that I'm saying spending money on your appearance is a bad thing, but it's not something I'm interested in.

>This is about appearance, not smell. If you look homeless because your hair looks bad when you're not showering, then you probably have to shower more. I have short hair, I can get away with wetting my hair and fixing it in a few minutes.

It just depends. My hair can get frizzy. I have long curly hair. I usually have it under a beanie or if it's warm outside I have it up. Plus I usually only wash it every other day, otherwise it gets dry. I wash it, put some product in and style it, and if I put it up or in a hat the next day for a few hours before letting it back down it retains its shape from the previous day quite well. I live in the conservative south, so long hair alone is enough to raise an eye over depending on who owns the eye.

>I was asking a legit question because people assume you look homeless and you said you live out of your car despite staying at friends' places. But, sure, snarky.

Live out of the car meaning I can keep everything I need in my car while I couch surf. You didn't exactly take caution in phrasing your question, so why would I in phrasing my response? I hadn't, and still really haven't, been awake for long, and I enjoy poking at people on the internet to see what happens.

Also, I don't care if someone thinks I look homeless. If anything it probably keeps them from talking to me, and that's alright to me.

The Johnston & Murphy Melton Oxford is the shoe to buy. It is the best quality you can get in Canada at around the $200-$230 CDN pricepoint, before jumping up to ordering factory seconds of the Allen Edmonds Fifth Avenue, Carlyle or Park Avenue, which WILL end up costing you between $315-$350 CDN, after exchange rate, border processing through DHL, and shipping are factored in. Even if the shoes are on sale in the AE shoe bank for $170.

I know this because 8 months ago I ordered a pair of AE Fifth Avenues for Brooks Brothers during the last big sale, and the shoe that was $169 initially ended up costing me $315 in the end, given that shipping from Ohio was $40 USD, processing was $10, and exchange was terrible. On top of that, the shoes don't even fit, because the 5 last, which is used on the Fifth Avenue, Carlyle, Park Avenue and others, is too narrow.

Back to the J&M though: this shoe is, like I said, the best quality you can get around the $200 CDN range. Right now it is on sale in 8.5D at amazon.ca for $228.

It is the same price on the J&M website too.

I have seen it at the Bay as well, though it is not listed online currently. And I have also seen it on deep discount on amazon.com, despite it being in USD. I snatched mine up when it dropped from $175 USD to $110 USD, which made the exchange and duties worth paying for.

Anyways, here is why you should buy this shoe, given your budget:

AE factory seconds will cost you $310+ to order from the U.S. First quality AE "Bloor Streets" (Park Avenues) will run you $500 CDN+ tax at Harry Rosen in Toronto. But the J&M Melton is not only much more affordable, it is miles ahead of all the other mall grade crap you would still spend up to $160 CDN on at Aldo or the Bay.

The main shoes I see at the Bay and in malls are usually Bostonian, Florsheim, Aldo, Steve Madden, Kenneth Cole, Pegabo, and Stacey Adams. In almost all cases, these are all overpriced crap that you will still end up spending up to $150 on anyways.

Bostonian and Florsheim used to be good, but now, alongside the rest of the shoes in the list (except for a couple Stacey Adams products), they are shittily made in China, with corrected grain leather, and glued soles, which significantly reduce their durability and longevity, while also reducing their comfort. Not only are the designs ugly, but they are terribly built, with terrible quality control, and terrible materials. And they will still run you over $100-$150 CDN.

Meanwhile, the Johnston & Murphys range from $160 CDN on sale to $230, yet are miles ahead of all those previously mentioned brands. Of course, they are not at AE level, but the Meltons in particular are goodyear welted and made with full-grain Italian calfskin. My pair is beautiful, and is very close in appearance to the $500 Park Avenue. They are leather soled as well, and while they aren't made in the USA like AE, they aren't made in China either (made in India).

If you're willing to pay $200, I'd definitely make the jump up to $230 and get the J&M Meltons. It's a significantly better shoe than any other option in that range, and well well worth the bump up from Bostonian or Kenneth Cole or Aldo. Yet it's a lot cheaper than what it will cost just for you to get second-quality Allen Edmonds. On top of that, unlike the AE shoes on the 5 last, the Melton fits true to size. So you don't have to worry about sizing up or down. If you are sized as 8.5D, then order an 8.5D.

And if you're patient, you might even snag em on sale. Though they aren't at the moment: https://www.johnstonmurphy.com/mens-sale-shoes#srule=PriceLowHigh&sz=1000&start=0

I had a similar uniform im training for a job. If done wrong you can look like a busboy/valet. Things to focus on: belt, watch, shoes. You have to make sure your shirt and pants fit obviously.

But you can add a touch of personality with your watch and belt. Keep everything black since your shoes are black.

Black leather belt with a gold or silver face. If you get a black leather watch, make sure the metal matches your belt ( gold with gold, silver with silver). You could get black alligator or lizard watch/belt for extra pizzaz. I wore a gold pinky ring but that was personal taste , its up to you.


As for your shoes: i would go with black captoe oxfords but thats the most formal and would look better with a full suit. You could always get derbys or loafers but please please don't get any cheap, square toed, rubber soled shoes. Your shoes are the most important part. It will make or break you, but also i understand its just for work.

Make sure you keep them shined and make sure your shirt is always crisp and not wrinkled

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00LI77OXK/ref=mp_s_a_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1473200623&sr=1-31&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=seiko+black+leather+watch&dpPl=1&dpID=41EFwoJRDQL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000HGJNS2/ref=mp_s_a_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1473200900&sr=8-14&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=giorgio%2Bbrutini%2Bloafers&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0009BJXRQ/ref=cts_sh_2_vtp?pi=SL110&dpPl=1&dpID=41mT4Ff2bBL&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000HGJQNY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473201029&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=giorgio+brutini+24440

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CRMM5BG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473201142&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=mens%2Blizard%2Bgold%2Bbelt&dpPl=1&dpID=4195jcIsydL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BXEEG7K/ref=cts_ap_3_vtp?pi=SL110&dpPl=1&dpID=413vVaS14AL

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000UUEPU6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473201240&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=melton+cap+toe



Here are some shoe, watch, and belt recommendations. I don't know your budget so i went kinda cheap.

• Maker/Model: Allen Edmonds Park Avenue in Black
  
• Size: 11D (US)
  
• Price: $250 Shipped
  
• Wears/Condition: Firsts. New in Box. Never worn.
  
• Images: Album 1 Also seen in this album I made comparing them to the Jos. A. Bank Version.
  
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• Maker/Model: Alden 975 (LWB in Shell for J.Crew)
  
• Size: 10.5 (US)
  
• Price: $375 Shipped
  
• Wears/Condition: Used, but in very good condition.
  
• Notes/Images: I bought these from a SF user and they are in great condition. They are in use, but I'd prefer a smaller size so I'm looking to trade or sell. Album here. They come with box + bags. I'm not desperate to sell so price is pretty firm. Alternatively, I would be willing to trade for the same shoe in a 10 or some other Alden Shell in a Barrie 10, like the Perforated Cap Toe Boot with cash making up differences in prices.
  
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• Maker/Model: Clarks Bushacre 2 in Beeswax
  
• Size: 10.5 (US)
  
• Price: $55 Shipped ($40 + ~$15 shipping USPS 2-day priority).
  
• Condition: New in Box
  
• Notes: https://www.amazon.com/CLARKS-Mens-Bushacre-Chukka-Boot/dp/B004DCV1JU?th=1&psc=1

I work in a blue collar job. Generally when I want to look a little nicer I'll throw on a chambray shirt over a white V-neck with some dark or raw denim (a cheap pair, think Gap or Uniqlo). I still wear my steel toes but I prefer a minimalist style boot that, I think, looks a little nicer. Like [this] (https://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-Mens-Steel-20066-Lace-Up/dp/B00413PX3G) or this which are my current pair (Red Wing's customer service is the greatest but thats an unrelated story) Honestly I have zero reason to do it but sometimes you want to elevate from a T-shirt and ripped jeans y'know.

Specifically, something not made with a leather sole and probably not made from calfskin/kidskin (goat equivalent to calfskin).

For light snow you'll probably want a lug sole. Something like this, for example, isn't that much chunkier. You can buy dressier boots with synthetic lug soles like the Allen Edmonds Long Branch (which is available in grey, or used to be), or something like the Red Wings Beckman which has a leather sole with lugged plate, but I think something more like the Chippewa is a safer bet if you're looking for something to specifically wear in light snow.

edit: However, what I linked you wasn't black I just realized.

If black is a necessity, the RW Iron Ranger and Red Wing Beckman both come in black, however the vibram sole on the red wing isn't ideal for snow/ice, and the calfskin on the beckman can discolor and be stained by snow/salt fairly easily, as well as the rest of the sole is still leather. If it's really worth the money, you could buy the Iron Rangers and take it to a cobbler and get a lugged sole but you'd be beyond your budget at that point.

I live in the Midwest and work in a business casual workplace. It's cold for roughly 6 months out of the year, and it's pretty damn snowy. I have a budget of $350-$400 to spend, but I'd really like to be able to wear these boots six months out of the year for 5+ years. My last pair of boots were $40 and lasted that long.

I like these boot styles, and as I understand it these companies are some of the best ones that offer boots in the $200-$400 price range.

Any recommendations looking at these boots? I'm still getting familiar with terminology, possible defects, etc.

https://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-Mens-20080-Chocolate-Apache/dp/B004TK2VAO/ref=sr_1_14?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1537238777&sr=1-14&nodeID=7141123011&psd=1&keywords=chippewa

https://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-Mens-Homestead-Pebbled-Renegade/dp/B01G9T3JGM/ref=sr_1_19?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1537238777&sr=1-19&nodeID=7141123011&psd=1&keywords=chippewa

https://taftclothing.com/collections/boots/products/the-dragon-boot-in-rust

https://thursdayboots.com/products/mens-vanguard-burnt-copper-made-in-usa?collection=boots

https://thursdayboots.com/products/mens-captain-terracotta?collection=boots

Is it worth it to invest in waterproof boots so that I don't have to spray any of these every few days/weeks? Any recommendations for cheaper pairs that are somewhat similar or more durable as well?

Looking to get some Clarks Men's Bushacre 2 (prefer them over the CDB) and was looking at them on amazon. The beeswax on there looks like peanut butter but I've heard people say that the ones they receive look more like the beeswax CDBs. Has anybody bought them and can confirm, and whats a good way to dress casual with the boots?

Thanks

Clark Dessert Boots in Beeswax are great with dark jeans.

If you want something different, Allen Edmonds makes great shoes (I really love the McAllisters).

Thanks, I looked at the boot guide, I know I need something different. Yes I am more of a rugged dressing person. I do wear clothes that fit, I wear straight leg jeans and athletic or trim fit shirts. I cannot spend 300 on boots right now, I am hoping to spend less than $100.
What do you think about some of these?
http://www.6pm.com/product/7743791/color/216
http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Oakwood/dp/B0031Y6UXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314947190&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/FRYE-Mens-Hudson-Chukka-Slate/dp/B002U83KI4/ref=sr_1_107?s=shoes&ie=UTF8&qid=1347988689&sr=1-107
http://www.dsw.com/shoe/clarks+men%27s+bushacre+chukka+boot?prodId=dsw12prod4010277&category=cat20303&activeCats=cat20192,cat20303

Blucher mocs, wingtips, boots (option 2), chukkas (option 2), penny loafers, and bucks (option 2 & option 3) are all some great options.

If you can, try to introduce him to slimmer pants in a darker wash -- perhaps some 511's or 513's in 'rigid dragon' or 'bastion' respectively? Combined with some new shoes, he'll look great. :)

I thought about getting those, but instead got these Chippewa boots

Even cheaper than Katahdins, look about the same as the original Op's post too. I just got mine and they're super comfy. And it's true what the reviews say about sizing down.

I don't know what price range you mean by not too expensive but here are some options.


Red Wing Moc Toe lug is a different moc toe without a wedge sole but still might be too bulky.

Thorogood has this cheaper moc toe that you might like.

Red Wing Beckman moc toe is a nice but slightly pricier option.

Irish Setter is Red Wings cheaper hunt and work label but they are all made in China. They have some other options

Or you could look into some Made in Maine handsewns for a different moc toe look. Here is a Quoddy chukka for cheap if you happen to be a 11.5

Hope this helps some.

Also, what do you think of these ones I've come across? I know most people here love the Bushacres, and I was about to get them when they were about U$52 like they were a few weeks ago which was about A$80 shipped or something ridiculous. However, I'm not sure if there are any alternatives within my budget.

Seavees 3 Eye Chukka - Walnut Oiled Leather: A$100 (~U$80) shipped, image

Clarks Bushacre 2 - Beeswax: U$66.67 + U$22.95 shipping = U$89.62 (~A$114) shipped

Tretorn Oken Leather Chukka: U$79.69 + U$13.77 = U$93.46 (~A$119), image

The first two seem safe options and I'm not particularly convinced by the last one; it looks cheap. However, I do like the sleekness and more "modern" design, and that it looks different from the typical chukka boot. That's not as important to me as actually getting a decent pair of shoes, though.

EDIT: I like the aesthetic of these Tretorn Garde Stovel Vinter GTX Boots, apart from the lining. But I've got a feeling my feet would cook inside them here in Australia.

EDIT 2: Any opinions on the Eastland-1955 Edition Sherman 1955 8" Boots?

That's the women's boot though, but it says the same thing on the men's one.

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Oakwood/dp/B0031Y6UXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405515603&sr=8-1&keywords=clarks+desert+boot

I got mine from Amazon, from the Originals series too. Most comment on there, MFA, and everywhere else say that you should order at least a size down (in American sizes). I'm a 13 and I ordered a 12. I had to put a heel cup in mine so they'd be perfect, so I think I might even fit in 11s.

So, yeah, it's weird, I don't know what's up with their website, or if the model's just changed.

For boots, the standard recommendations are the Clarks Desert Boot and Katahdin Engineer Boots. There are additional recommendations in the sidebar.

Plain tees are great if they fit well. People here seem to like Mossimo tees from Target, but the best choice really depends on your body type. Just try a bunch of different brands to figure out what works on your build.

Chippewa Men's 20065 6" Rugged Handcrafted Lace-Up Boot,Chocolate Apache,6 D US https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036VN8G8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Ib0QybTDEG7SC

See Chippewa Apache Boots (6")
I've heard really good things about these boots, and there are some good write ups on them by other redditors (mobile so it's hard to link right now).

Personally, I own a pair of RW Iron Rangers, and I think they are definitely worth it... But they definitely will set you back a bit more at the start.

At least you got some closure as to what happened.

The one time I was stood up, it was by a girl who had replied to my first message EDIT: she messaged ME first (what a bitch!), was very quick to give me her number and texted me a couple times between when we set the date and the day of the date itself. So I was pretty sure she wasn't going to flake, I mean, she had showed a bunch of interest, more than some girls have showed when they actually DID show for a date.

I get to the tea house we set to meet at, and she isn't there, so I text to say I am here and waiting outside. It was like five minutes before we were supposed to meet, so I assumed she hadn't showed up and then peaced out. 15 minutes later I text to say I'm still there and hope traffic wasn't too bad.

45 minutes later, I send her a text about how annoying it was to make me drive all the way out to her area to meet up only to have her disappear entirely. I told her she should have been an adult and let me know she wasn't interested and that she should really reflect on what she did (totally pulled out a teacher scolding)

Then I went to DSW and bought a sick pair of boots that were an amazing sale price. She disabled her account, probably so I wouldn't send her mean messages, then enabled it again a day or two later. I dropped by once more to appear on her visitors list and hopefully make her feel bad one more time before hiding her.

I've had these for a couple years now and love them. Constantly get compliments and it's nice not to have timberlands like every other guy.

Im honestly not sure, picked them up at a thrift store years ago. I think they might be Kenneth Cole? They're good beaters but I honestly wouldn't suggest them if you're looking for a new boot. I'd suggest something like, Wolverines, Red Wings,Doc Martens, or Chippewas depending on your budget and style you're looking for.

I finally found some boots that were almost exactly what I was looking for. Thing is I couldn't find them in my size (7.5). Does anyone know of any good alternatives with a similar style and price point? Any help is appreciated, thanks

I have the chippewa apache steel toes that I wear for work. They're comfortable and for the price pretty much the best looking steel toed boots around. You can see them here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00413PWPK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1416799287&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

I received a $250 gift card to amazon for a pair of boots this christmas, so ignore prices mostly when I ask the following question:
I want a boot that looks good and is versatile, will age nicely, and is very durable. Which should I get, and for what reason.

Chippewa Service Boot in cordovan

Red Wing Beckman in black cherry or cigar

Red Wing Iron Ranger in amber harness

or, Wolverine 1000 Mile in cordovan

[I think I'm going to grab these] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BP45EWE/ref=gno_cart_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER). Torn on the color of the sole, but I think either will be great. The "Cordovan" color was what I was really looking for though. Thanks.

I would like to but these Chippewa Apache Lace-Up Boots (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TK2UCI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A2WOPAGVJGO3RL) but I'm a student and the $150 price tag is a little high for me. Does anyone know of somewhere selling them for a better price or an Amazon promo code code that I could use? Are these boots worth the cost?

Yeah I mean darker brown should be alright.

It's such a MFA cliche and I feel like I'm on MFA circlejerk even for saying it, but have you looked at Clarks Desert Boots? They're like the staple shoe for what you want. They can be dressed up, dressed down, pretty much a do it all shoe that's cheap.

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B002IFNVK6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341714315&sr=8-1&keywords=clarks+desert+boots


And be warned: they're going to strike you as ugly when you look at them. But remember, you wear them with pants, so they're going to look more like this when you actually try to wear them. I had an aversion to them when I started getting into fashion, but when I finally tried on a pair I loved them.

http://doc.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pDOCK1-10464671v291a.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Bushacre-Lace-Up-Beeswax-Leather/dp/B004DCSYZY I got these for $60, they're very similar in style to CDB's but the quality isn't as good. I personally own a pair and I love them. Since they're both made by Clark's, very similar in style to CDBS and lower in price, I think they're a perfect match for your brother.

Here's an album I found that compares Bushacres and CDBs.

My soul hurts every time I recommend these but Clark's Desert Boots sound like they would be perfect for you. They're so ubiquitous here because they're fairly cheap and extremely versatile and go with just about anything.

Value Village with Community Donations hooked up to them (not sure if they all have them) are great depending on location. The closest one to me (less than five minutes!) is stuck dead between three wealthier cities in the area, and I constantly find really good deals in my size.

AG pants with their tags still on (marked at $230) for $13 last month in my size. They also had these exact clark's chukkas with no wear on the soles that I snagged as well for $9. A little tight at the tip since I have wider feet, but I wasn't going to pass up that opportunity.

Clark's Bushacre DB Dark Brown Color

I have a pair of Chippewa Chocolate Apache Lace up boots, and I'm afraid the color may be too similar. Many of my friends are saying to get the beeswax leather color, but I'm not in love with it. I like the richer color of the dark brown. Any alternative suggestions?

Chippewa makes some nice boots. I only have the non steel toe version with lugged soles, but I've beat the crap out of them and they're still going strong.

I use these for work and they are a little bulky, but they are really comfortable and the aluminum toe makes them real light.

the meltons in black are currently only $122.50 when sold by amazon for nearly all sizes. they're definitely worth looking at. I have the bordeux color, and they're really quite nice for what they are and their price point.

http://www.amazon.com/Johnston-Murphy-Melton-Oxford-Black/dp/B000UUGP18/

A good alternative for these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018DW7QS/ref=s9_simh_gw_g309_i1_r?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=0DRNEJCDD7VTZKD8DRD8&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop


in a dark brown color? size 12 US please :)

Also thorogoods.

They are already good value for money but worth waiting for a sale. I think my chippewas were about $100 on sale a few years ago, but I'm not sure they drop that low any more.

Chippewa in brown (don't be fooled by the amazon pics, look a lot nicer in person) and burgundy.

Either of those boots will last nearly as long as red wings but the styling and leather isn't quite as nice. Could get 2 or 3 years before needing a resole.

These are pretty great for the price I hear.

Awesome thanks!
Nope, actually looking for these in copper

If you decide to go with the Chippewa go with the lug sole. The other ''flat'' sole is very slippery. If you get them from amazon you should be able to get 20% off as well. Size down half a size from your regular size. They are a very comfortable boot. I wouldn't waste time with the Eastland boot unless you can get them for under $70.

http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-Mens-20080-Chocolate-Apache/dp/B004TK2VAO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1416371959&sr=8-3&keywords=chippewa

You can check out the Eastland High Fidelity Boot in Tan if you're looking for a good looking boot on a budget. Sign up for the amazon.com shoe newsletter and they'll send you a 20% off coupon, making these boots about $85 in the US. Sorry I don't know for sure if they're available in the UK.

I have these and like them alot. The amazon stock picks don't do them justice, the leather is much nicer looking than the pics would suggest.

When I worked a job where I needed steel toes, I had a pair of Chippewa Apache's. They held up very well after two years of daily wear, and they seem to get some love from the MFA community to boot.

Welcome to MFA. Do you have time to talk about our lord and savior, CDB?

In all honesty, there's a reason these are memes at this point. CDBs have earned their place as a solid addition to any wardrobe trying to be more mature than sneakers while still keeping the jeans. I like Bushacres just as much as Desert boots, but they are both interchangeable in a wardrobe.

https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Chukka-Beeswax/dp/B004DCV1JU/ref=sr_1_3?crid=T1KZSE6Q57ZR&keywords=clarks+desert+boot+men&qid=1557766696&s=gateway&sprefix=clarks+de%2Caps%2C126&sr=8-3

well.. it's saturday night and my girl is no where to be seen, so let's see;

black levi's 511 - $50

a pair of selvedge 513 slims - $80

dark indigo button down - $50

light striped chambray - $37

obligatory light blue oxford -$30

asos navy jacket - $60

khaki chino - $54

dark green chino - $68

clarks DB beeswax - $80

2x mens pocket t shirt - $30

2x mens v neck t - $30

2x mens organic cotton t - $30

5 x plain socks - $15

2x 3 pack of underwear - $40

all up around $650ish without postage..

would keep me happy for the time being :)

Seems like you've gotten a good deal of help with the first pair but I might be able to help you with pair #2. Vans actually makes a chukka style sneaker which isn't exactly like what you linked but has the same sneaker/boot hybrid silhouette. Also you could always try the MFA basic staple CDB or the slightly cheaper Bushacres. If none of these work for you do a search for "Chukka Sneakers" and spend some time shopping around/ doing research.

Great post, but quick question. For the Chippewa's, how does the pair in the original post compare with these slightly more expensive ones?. Is it just color?

EDIT: Lug sole apparently, never mind! I'll probably go with those because of the snow and slush.

I have the Chippewa 6" Apache Steel toes... I absolutely LOVE them.

http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-Chocolate-Apache-Steel-Lace-Up/dp/B00413PWPK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418057793&sr=8-1&keywords=chippewa+steel+toe

You can also get the Chippewa Apache for pretty cheap if you use Amazon's 20% off clothing deal for a first time purchase (look around, you'll find it). I would consider stacking your jeans instead of rolling though, I find it suits the aesthetic much better.

I wouldn't wear the Iron Rangers out in the snow (because of the sole) but the Classic Moc looks like it could handle it as well as the Beckmann (http://www.amazon.com/Red-Wing-Shoes-Mens-Beckman/dp/B0032UYPCE)

clark's desert boots link since you don't know what they are: http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WU8SBG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377563207&sr=8-1&keywords=clarks+desert+boot+men

check out sebago docksides, on amazon they are arguably better than Sperry, and these can be had as low as about $35 if you sign up for the amazon shoe discount. http://www.amazon.com/Sebago-Mens-Docksides-Boat-Yellow/dp/B009NBRML2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1377563237&sr=8-3&keywords=sebago+docksides+men

That leaves about $200. Are you talking nicer places or are you concerned with PBR stains on your shoes?

My current footwear consists of Thorogood plain toe boots in tobacco and Chippewas.

For pants I am usually rocking my 3sixteen shadow selvedge and some bonobos travel Jeans in Santa fe sand, as wells a cords (burgundy, green, dark khaki), and sometimes (but not super often) chinos (olive, brown).

My tops are usually sweaters (pretty wide variety) or flannels.

Jackets I own are a indigo denim jacket, an olive vest, and a grey wool shawl-color jacket.

Don't know what size you wear, but generally I watch Amazon for the desert boots...they tend to pop up for $40-50 frequently with free shipping.

It seems like whenever I see things about Chippewa on here and MFA, I see "their boots are good but not at full price". I've found a few at a discount, specifically, their utility boots in cordovan, but at what price would you say they're worth it for the quality?

I bought these recently. Today is my first day wearing them and I have a good feeling about them. I have had both bad and good experiences with Johnston Murphy before and I feel like this is a good pair.

Try the eastland high fidelity boots, I bought a pair a couple weeks back for around $100 and I love the way they look.

Here are a couple pictures of my pair.

boots

top down shot

Alternatively, if you're looking for a moc toe boot, you can try golden fox boots

I bought these Chippewas as a winter boot. I put some sno-seal on and wore them during the Snowzilla of 2016. Kept my feet dry and the lugged sole was great.

With your price range, you should look into Chippewas.

However, you're limiting yourself to some great boots at your budget.

Amazon has some pretty large discounts on them here

Is there a difference between the [Chippewa Service boot] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BP45EWE/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1415987411&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX200_QL40) and the [Ll bean Cordovan Boot] (http://m.llbean.com/product.html?&page=katahdin-iron-works-engineer-boots-plain-toe#78205) in terms of leather? If so, which one is of better quality?

Ok so I’m looking for moc toe boot that can service me in the winter time(Minnesotan winter to be exact). So from what I understand I’m looking for a rubber sole with lugs. I’ve been looking at mostly redwings because that’s what I know is recommended most the time.

So something like this WOUND’T work? RW Heritage Classic Moc

But his would, right? RW Moc toe Lug

or this? I’m not sure about the sole Thorogood Moc Toe tobacco

This says it’s a Vibram® Christy Blown Rubber Wedge outsole, would that work? Thorogood Moc toe brown crazyhorse

Those last two would appear to be the same damn thing, but say they have different soles.

I really like the white wedge sole, but it’s hard to commit to something that will be a liability come winter time. The price on lugged sole I’m not a fan of, but it is what it is.

The way a lot of these are described seems inconsistent to me and I can’t make heads or tails of what won’t cause me to eat shit this winter…

Also, any other boots I should be looking at?

Thanks.

EDIT: What about these?

What do people think of the Johnston and Murphy Melton? The black is $123 on amazon and with the 20% off shoes it dips barely below $100. Good year welted too.

http://www.amazon.com/Johnston-Murphy-Melton-Oxford-Black/dp/B000UUEPU6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2B70SJJMWPAYH&coliid=I34RMKK4EQSYVZ&psc=1

A pair of boots. Only other pair I have would be Beeswax CDBs. Help me choose one?

I tend to wear skinner fitted clothes and am very skinny myself.

Thorogood Moc

Thorogood Plain

Chippewa

Chippewa Apache (Steel or Non-Steel Toe?)

Sorry, what I meant was order them online from a US website. Here they're pretty cheap on amazon, and there's going to a sale at some point bringing them down to $60, guaranteed.

I mean, this is a pretty radical opinion here than I'm sure no one else has ever voiced, but there are these shoes called "Clark Desert Boots" that are kinda nifty:

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WU8SBG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346872697&sr=8-1&keywords=clark+desert+boots

In size 14!

I'm looking for my first pair of brown leather boots. I've seen a ton of recommendations since I've started reading MFA just over a week ago, but am having trouble pulling the trigger. I'm looking for something versatile... Something that looks nice, but keeping the tough look about them. I'm mostly looking to pair with raw denim and button downs, or v-necks.

Here are the few I've narrowed the search down to:

To Boot Kilburn in Koala

Redwing 6" Moc - Copper Rough

Redwing Iron Rangers - Hawthorne

Clark Desert Boot in Beeswax

Any help to sway my decision?

oh thanks!! how would the dark brown ones look
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DCSYWW here they are

I'm being overloaded a bit when looking for boots. That's the last step for me as far as building my basic wardrobe and I just can't decide. I assume buying [these](https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WU6TN0/ref=sr_1_14?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1538090363&sr=1- 14&nodeID=679307011&psd=1&keywords=chukka+boots+mens) are a basic must. Should I also buy another pair of brown boots? Perhaps something like these ?

Steel toe casual shoes never look good. The toe box is too big and you just end up looking foolish. Get a pair of nice boots. Since you're in a factory, you probably dont need an insole shank like construction boots.

My 2 recommendations would be

• Chippewa Apache steel toe http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-Chocolate-Apache-Steel-Lace-Up/dp/B00413PX3G
  
  
• doc martens icons http://www.dmusastore.com/p-2063-new-icon-7-eye-boot.aspx

Beeswax Leather? these ones: (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DCV1JU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER) or the originals? Might be interested, send me a PM if they're the right ones on where in Sydney you are

FYI, check frequently on Amazon Warehouse clothing/boots. I just found these for $38 in my size only.

Jeans: Unbranded for raw (about all you can get for under $100), or save some money and just grab some Levi's.

Boots: Chippewa

Between these chinos, should I buy:

1. Dockers Alpha Khaki Chinos in New British Khaki or Winetasting
   
2. J.Crew 484 broken-in chino in melted caramel, dusty khaki, or vintage cabernet
   
3. Dockers D1 Slim Fit British Khaki
   
   
   

• Clark’s Bushacres
  
• Target Merona Field Jacket
  
• Target Mossimo Field Jacket
  

The J&M Meltons get recommended quite a bit for cheap oxfords. They're expensive at the current $175, but they do drop under $100 and with the 20% coupon (if you have it), you can get it for even lesser. The quality seems to be quite good too

Should I buy these?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004DCV1JU/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Edit: Also wanted to know if I should size down with them. 11 in vans if that helps

You really should ask about the requirements before buying anything they vary widely one plant I worked at required 1/4" raised heels for example. That said I have this pair of chippewa, and this pair of thorogood. I perfer the thorogoods both are good boots though.

Was going to recommend the Eastland High Fidelity boots, but /u/djwoll beat me to it. Here's a link to them on Amazon. I think they fall under the 25% off $100 dollar boots promotion that they have going on too. The promo code for that is BOOTSFAM.

Hard to see from this picture, but I'm 99% sure they're these: http://www.amazon.com/Red-Wing-Heritage-Beckman-Moc/dp/B0032UYPCE

Mine were muted brown, definitely closer to this color.

Maybe tan or oro legacy?

There are a fair amount of seconds sales on Red Wing if you’re patient.

Go for Clark Deserts in Beeswax; they'll be much better than those Hush Puppies for only $20 more.

The Eastland mocs are really summer/late spring shoes. As such they're generally worn sockless.

Really this depends on where you live. From your choices I am guessing somewhere warm. If so just get the Clarks. If you deal with snow/bad weather, look at Iron Rangers or many of the other 8" boots listed in the fall season guide on the bar on the right.

I was looking at Clarks Bushacres on Amazon, and the beeswax leather does not look like it does on CDBs (Here are the Bushacres, and here are CDBs).

Is this a mistake from Amazon, or is the beeswax leather actually different on these two boots?

I agree with this, something like Red Wing moc toes

In other stores, chances are you'll find the Bushacre 2 by Clarks, which is a budget version of Clarks Desert Boots. I don't know how they differ, really, other than the outsole.

I just wanted to give you a heads up in case you end up confused like me.

Johnston and Murphy Meltons. They're goodyear welted and probably some of the better quality shoes you can find for $100. They are frequently on sale on Amazon for right around that price. They are $175 now but if you're patient they will come down.

http://www.amazon.com/Johnston-Murphy-Melton-Oxford-Black/dp/B000UUGP18/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395680530&sr=8-1&keywords=johnston+murphy+melton

Not as versatile as all of the boots recommended here (i.e. intended for any weather), but the lowest I would go on boots is Eastland High Fidelity. I've heard pretty decent things about them and they can be had for about 100-110.

Clark's Original Desert Boot in Beeswax.

Hmmm...

For some reason link did not post. Here are three links. Two for Amazon and another for Camelx3 pricing.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B1I5KFU/ref=s9_simh_gw_g309_i4_r?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-2&pf_rd_r=1H0T0WQ2CXAMHWF8AZR4&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2091268722&pf_rd_i=desktop

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004DCSYZY?m=AYT9X2RYV4VFW&ref_=v_sp_widget_detail_page

http://camelcamelcamel.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Beeswax-Leather/product/B004DCSYZY?active=new&context=browse


(Edited to include direct link.)

I found Desert Boots on Amazon for 78 CDN being sold from a just launched vendor. Does this seem legit?

Clarks Originals Men's Desert Boot,Oakwood,11 M US https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0031Y6UXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_J9xsybFG3NP25

What's a Clark boot that would be an ideal first and only boot choice?

Ideal as far as versatility (color a/ outfits) , comfort, and price?

I've looked at these [these](Clarks Men's Bushacre 2 Boot,Beeswax Leather,10.5 M US https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004DCV1JU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_GTLOybBSQE5MT) in many different colors, but am having trouble deciding what is right for me.

Or the standard "Dessert Boot"

Should I look into suede or leather options?

I got a pair of Clarks bushacre 2 boots for about $85 on Amazon. Just like the desert boot, but with a dark sole.

the oft-recommended Chippewa Apache is only about $150 on amazon. The Thorogood Moc-Toe is also about that price.

how about j&m melton from amazon?

http://www.amazon.com/Johnston-Murphy-Melton-Oxford-Black/dp/B000UUGP18/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383085533&sr=8-1&keywords=melton

Johnston and Murphy Melton is $124.99 for the black version. If you sign up and use the 20% off Amazon coupon, it's almost within your price range.

I got mine for $77 + $18 shipping last year off Amazon. I had some other stuff on my wishlist that I had added to the order so I wasn't too sore about the shipping. Just keep an eye out on the price, it's up now but it spends more time than not around the $80 mark. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/product/B000WU6TMG

These Justin boots are what I purchased mainly because they'll make it through a metal detector. And although I can't recall the name the little frill on the bottom of the laces is removable.

http://www.amazon.com/Justin-Original-Work-Boots-Jmax/dp/B00H4TA5N2

If you don't need to worry about metal detectors I'd go Chippewa all day.

http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-Six-Inch-Chocolate-Apache-Lace-Up/dp/B00413PX3G

I'm thinking about buying the Bushacre 2 in Beeswax and the one in your photos looks a lot lighter. According to this thread, the beeswax looks a lot darker (like dark brown) than depicted on Amazon, which is why I'm confused. When did you buy your pair and did you get them from Amazon?

The US Amazon site frequently has Chippewa Apache Steel-toes for 130 USD or 180 CAD. I checked and these do ship to Canada.

I'm not sure about the shipping costs / taxes, however.

A picture of the boots

http://cdn5.giltcdn.com/images/share/uploads/0000/0003/0115/301156276/420x560.jpg

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i339/reguy7/100_3549.jpg


Mine are the ones with speed hooks, and I want to say are oxblood (edit: actually i think i own the ones in the first pic)

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Wing-Heritage-Beckman-Moc/dp/B0032UYPCE

Excuse me if I am incorrect and this was a mistake on the page but should I go with Beeswax or Beeswax leather? 1

so closer to this one?

To add to this, Amazon has them in cordovan for around $210 with the promo code SEPTSTYL.

you can get the Chippewa Apache with a steel toe https://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-Mens-Steel-20066-Lace-Up/dp/B00413PX3G

What color do you have? Chocolate Apache(http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-Mens-Rugged-Handcrafted-Lace-Up/dp/B0036VN958/ref=pd_sbs_shoe_1) or chocolate? )http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-Chocolate-Apache-Steel-Lace-Up/dp/B00413PX3G/ref=pd_sbs_shoe_1)

Small correction, these are actually bushacres, not DBs.

Busharcres - http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Bushacre-Lace-Up-Beeswax-Leather/dp/B004DCSYZY

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Wing-Heritage-Moc-Boot/dp/B0018DW7QS

I'm looking for dress shoes for law school orientation and future interviews and formal events. Budget is around ~200. Thoughts on these for the price?

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UUEPU6/ref=twister_B000UUGZN6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Beeswax-Leather/dp/B004DCV1JU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WU6TMG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377124132&sr=8-1&keywords=clarks+desert+boots

This is what I was looking at : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004TK2UCI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_FPWsybYWCYRZS

Muthafuckin Clarks, son

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WU6TMG/

https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Desert-Boot/dp/B004DCSYZY?th=1&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/Eastland-Mens-High-Fidelity-Lace-Up/dp/B003CIPSQS

I grabbed those last week and I'm really digging them so far. With the 20% off for the newsletter, they come down to $80.

How different do I size on boots compared to sneakers?
Probably ordering http://www.amazon.com/Red-Wing-Heritage-Classic-6-Inch/dp/B0018DW7QS soon, do I size down or up? i'm a 10.5 in sneakers

Maybe the Eastland High Fidelity instead?

You can get the lug sole version of the Chippewas. Looks a bit more clunky, but it is much more functional. With the 20% off coupon, it comes to about $118.

Amazon's prices vary by size and color, but they're always fluctuating up and down. Watch your size in any colors that you're considering for a couple weeks, at least one should go down toward $80 at some point. Right now, I'm seeing the Bushacre in my size for roughly $80 in a few colors. If you're a first-time customer and you already know your size, you can sign up for a shoe email and get a 20% off coupon.

(http://www.amazon.com/Johnston-Murphy-Melton-Oxford-Black/dp/B000UUGP18/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369264441&sr=8-1&keywords=johnston+and+murphy+melton)

I wear these with my charcoal suit. They also have a goodyear welt which allows for replacement later on.

Copper

http://www.amazon.com/Eastland-Mens-High-Fidelity-Lace-Up/dp/B003CIPSQS

I have them in tan.

How's this

Or for $65 if you get them after signing up for their shoe store email list.

Look at [Chippewa] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00413PX3G/ref=s9_hps_bw_g309_ir03?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-7&pf_rd_r=1Y6K4MVH881BDAW9WXJH&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1615605022&pf_rd_i=2587207011) or [RW] (http://www.redwingsafety.com/safety-boot/4439-safe-us/4439-red-wing-mens-6-inch-boot-brown/filter-m)

Here is the mobile version of your link

A recent purchase: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DCSYWW

Does that qualify? I don't know if flat really just refers to the sole.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TK2UCI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Is it this one?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product//B000WU8SBG/ref=twister_dp_update?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Was in a hurry and forgot. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004DCSYWW/ref=aw_ls__1?colid=AJP58RM45K2&coliid=ILZ6WWQ5TNVNZ&vs=1

https://www.amazon.ca/Clarks-Desert-Crepe-Beeswax-Leather/dp/B000WU8SBG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480952360&sr=8-1&keywords=clarks%2Bdesert%2Bboots&th=1&psc=1

If this is the clarks desert boots you are talking about, then it's being sold at 99.98 at Amazon without any specific sale. They've gone as low as 70 ish.

No experience with Thursday Boots myself, but these boots from Red Wing are similar. They're a little more expensive, but Red Wings are generally more highly regarded than Thursday Boots.

CYBERMON gave you 30% off Chipps and other select boots fulfilled by Amazon, but that was yesterday. Doubt it's still up. I got the lugged apaches yesterday for $100 with the code.

I was looking for some new laces for my Beckmans in black cherry featherstone. I was thinking leather laces would be best but ill take any suggestions.

this one in size 11, brown, unworn: http://www.amazon.com/Joes-Jeans-Mens-Grant-Chukka/dp/B00K7EO1Y0

and this one, beeswax leather in size 10.5 worn twice:http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Beeswax-Leather/dp/B004DCV1JU/ref=sr_1_2?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1452053803&sr=1-2&nodeID=7141123011&keywords=clark+desert+boots

Referral link warning.

Doesn't work. Looks like user is just reposting for referrals?

It worked after I cleared cookies. Was just testing code.

Am mistaken. Was just my leftover promo credit that worked.

Non referral link: http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Beeswax-Leather/dp/B004DCV1FO/

They are Red Wing I'm pretty sure, but I think they are these not the ones you suggested. I could be wrong though. http://www.amazon.com/Red-Wing-Shoes-Classic-Lifestyle/dp/B0018DW7QS

Damn, just bought these for $143 less the 25% BOOTSFAM code a few days ago (with the vibram soles)... $112 less 20% is a much better deal! Too bad, it's a different product code at Amazon otherwise I may be able to get some money back.

Ones I bought with the Vibram lugged soles (still showing $143):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TK2UCI

no amount of rage can stop me