Reddit mentions: The best chukka boots for men

I AM IN YOUR SITUATION! Just got on this board three days ago. Spent $200 over the past three days and I've drastically improved my wardrobe.

1. Go through the right hand guides of knowing what fits you and what not. If you're an athletic type, go to /r/malefashionadvice there is a post on athletic builds if you fit that description. The most important thing is understanding what fits. I bought a medium out of shame of rather not buying a small convincing myself that the somewhat baggy look was better. I went back to smalls and I realized how much better I looked.

2. Shoes! Get yourself a pair of from what a newbie understands as "classy" shoes. You're in college so you're surrounded by meat heads, swag vags, and sweatpants wearing ants, and the occassional look at me I wear crazy shit. Most of the time, they're wearing Nikes, Addidas, Underarmor, and other shit that you probably have. You'll get the occassional mocassin and boots, but what'll make you really stand out in terms of fashion is your shoes. This is good. MFA is (in my opinion off a brief 3 day lurking): classy, mature, timeless, and just overall attractive male attire.

So! The investment I made were Brown Suede Clarks for $70 @ Journeys in NYC Best investment so far. I've never owned anything so nice yet casual as these shoes. They're extremely comfortable.

For $21 you can get Seude Oxfords at JC Penny. Another cheap and truly great shoe. Just looks plain good with anything. I got mine for $15 because I was very patient and nice to the saleswoman (mid 50s); she gave me a wink and said I'll take some off for ya.


3. Pants I would go again with the suggestion of jeans. 511 - Skinny, 514 - Slim Straight. These are Levi's obviously. I've owned Arizona, Lee, and Wrangler; Levi's are just unbeatable. For $40 and sometimes $30 you can get a pair. I would get one pair of Levi's. Make sure it's a pair you definitely would love.

One pair of Khakis. If you're in New York City, get over to Uniqlo and get yourself a pair of $30 really good quality chinos (khakis). They can be tailored in the store so don't be afraid if you see 33x36 pants or 30x34 pants. They can be cut for free. Otherwise stop by Amazon to get D1 Slims or Alphas.

GAP has a sale going on for 40% off or 30% without a coupon. They have a limited selection of pretty good quality khakis that are fitting and are decent when it comes to price ($40-$50).

4. Tops Old Navy. It was up there that their premium t-shirts are on sale for Buy One Get One Free. They're pretty good quality for $6 bucks a pop ($12 for one, so you get 2 for essentailly $6). I grabbed some myself. Theres a coupon for 10% online somewhere. I used it. However, Old Navy fits may not be so kind on you as they are with me. As their sizes scale, it scales wider; it does not scale with benevolence longer.

Graphic Tees are alright in college. Again plain simple colors/patterns will distinguish you from the highschool attire that even these 2nd semester freshies will be wearing.

For your budget, I would take your time shopping the clearance racks of most department stores. I went to JCPenny the other day and found a slim fitting GREAT purple J. Ferrar shirt for $7. For the way it fits and the decent quality, this button down shirt was an absolute steal. I also bought 2 $12 dollar button downs from Macys that happened to fit me perfectly. Again it's on where you're looking.

Polos Polos are easy to come by. Old Navy has em as do most stores. Whether you like them with a logo or plain, even Ralph Lauren Polos can be spotted on the cheap. Do you barging.

5. Outerwear Cardingans are on clearance in the Old Navy rack for $6-12. I picked up one. I picked up a great fitting hoodie from there as well for $7. Fits me perfect and shows off my muscles /flex.

If you've heard of a store called Against All Odds, they have a good selection of outwear (more swagster area and ghetto-fab), but it's better especially for the athletic fit. They have some sales and the quality isn't atrocious. You can check that out.

Thrifting Theres a thread on the side; hopefully you don't need a link.


Lets Review

• Take your time, browse accordingly. There is no need to rush.
  
• Look everywhere and always check the clearance.
  
• Make sure the clothes fit, if you like the style but are a little iffy on the fit do not buy it unless you think it'll shrink on to you.
  
  
  What I did in the past 3 days:
  
  
• $80 Clarks
  
• $22 Bass @ J C Penny's + J. Ferrar Slim Shirt
  
• $12 2 Old Navy Premium V-Neck Shirts
  
• $8 Cardingan at Old Navy
  
• $7 Hoodie at Old Navy
  
• $40 Levi 514 Jeans
  
• $30 Chinos @ Uniqlo (add 5-10 dollars for Dockers)
  
  Total: $193
  
  Hopefully that'll set you up. If you're not iffy on spending that much on Clarks, then there is more in your budget for other things like pants or underwear.
  
  Anyways, go here if you want $100 starter kits.
  
  Good Luck and let me know of your great finds.
  
  
  

I'm 16, so I may be able to help you a bit with what would look good on you, since I wear this stuff.

• Docker's Alpha Khaki: Grab a few pairs of Dockers alpha khaki's, they have them at Macy's - if you don't have a Macy's near you, you can order online. The grey, navy, and tan are all good colors.
  
  
• GAP's skinny selvedge: We here at MFA love raw jeans, but not every teenager can afford them. Gap has some fairly cheap ($35) 1969 jeans that are fairly nice. Get them in a dark indigo wash. If you don't like the gap jeans just remember get a pair that is slim (but not skin tight) and dark indigo is a great color to get them in.
  
  
• Target's Merona V-neck: Your shirt seems kind of odd in this photo, the V is really deep, and as others have said it's best not to get such a deep V unless you are more on the muscular side. Target's merona brand has a great V-neck shirt that is pretty good on fit and has a lot of colors. Their crew necks are good too, but its just personal preference. I personally like the crew necks more because they fit my body type better.
  
  
• OCBD's (Oxford Cloth Button Down): This is a button up shirt made of oxford cloth (heavier than the average "dress" shirt, lighter than flannel) and has a button down collar. You can get these at a variety of stores but MFA typically recommends Jcrew, get them in slim. If that's too pricey gap makes some fairly ok OCBD's. Its a great shirt for fall/winter with layering and spring by itself (but you can layer if you feel like it, might be too hot) its not much of a summer shirt because it can get hot if you are in 80 degree weather+
  
  
• Shoes: Van's authentic's are good shoes. Off white is a good color. Once it get's to fall/winter you may want a boot. I own a pair of red wings, but obviously everybody can't buy them since they are fairly expensive. The Katahdin's are also good, but again - to a teenager they might be pricey. You could go with Clark's but they aren't great for winter (the crepe sole has a tendency to absorb water, which isn't good if you want dry feet) but they will do OK if you aren't walking around too much in rain/slush. If you want boots you may have to pay a bit more... but it will be worth it since they will last, and they are very stylish. If you get the right pair, you will definitely get some compliments.
  
  
• Sweaters: Cardigan's, Sweater's, they are great. I actually made a post about this today. Jcrew has some great sweaters, a bit more expensive than other brands but I hear they last for a very long time and are high quality. Banana republic also has some great options. Gap makes a great cardigan that I am going to buy tomorrow.
  
  
• Jackets: Get one in black/olive/or brown. The guide over in the sidebar is great for jackets, they are a long subject and it would be hard for me to cover all of them in this comment. EDIT: Also, vests - if you can pull that shit off, wear one, on the right person they look great. Like this
  
  As a few final tips:
  
  

• Make sure your belt matches your shoes in color.
  
  
• Make sure your pants fit you well, you shouldn't be able to fit more than 2 fingers in between your waist and your pants.
  
  
• Shirt and shoes shouldn't match.
  
  
• Button up's shouldn't be too long, if its long it is meant to be tucked in, and it looks odd because me and you usually wouldn't be tucking in our shirts.
  
  
• Fit is very important. Make sure it fits well before you buy it (but not so well that when you wash it, it shrinks up and you can't wear it).
  
  
• As others have said, cut your hair.
  
  
  MFA is a great community, but a few people criticize things pretty harshly, don't feel offended if this happens, its happened to most of us here.

Well this is not so special; sorry. Everyone comes to MFA with some backstory but every wants the same thing; to dress better. And the best way to do that is to read the sidebar. But I'm going to help you out while you read.

The best way to dress like Tony Stark (in my own humble opinion) is to dress casual-formal; that is to say dress up to formal then take it down. What this is going to entail is wearing jeans/denim with a button down shirt. Lose the tie though. So basically, the first piece of advice I'd give is Denim+Button down. Check out the denim guide; I can't speak too much about quality (I get what fits) but I personally buy from Gap, and their stuff is decent quality for the price. If you want to take it a step up, Raw Denim is the way to go. I know almost nothing about that so I can't help you there. Now when it comes to button downs, there are a couple of places to go. If you are anywhere near a Uniqlo, go there. They have extremely good quality stuff FOR THEIR PRICE POINT. You could probably pick up a good smattering of colored shirts; If not there, some other places that will have interesting patterns/color+good quality are J.Crew, Epaulet, Gap/Banana Republic, Brooks Brothers. I would recommend getting a bunch of colors and patterns, along with a few solid colors. Blue and Red are good colors that will match many colors of Denim. Get a few patterned shirts as well; I would recommend trying to keep the over shirt color 'light' though; nothing like Black and Green. If possible, stick to a pattern that is one color and white (e.g. blue and white).

If you want to take it a step further up, you can try out the Chino/BD style, which is more or less wearing well fitting chinos with a button down. This requires as much work as the denim/bd look, but you will end up with a slightly more monotone look (the most common chinos are khaki/black/grey). For this reason I would recommend that you consider getting some multi-colored pants; Red, Yellow, Green, Blue pants along with the standard colors will make you stand out. Some places to get these things are (again) J.Crew, Epaulet, Gap, Levi's, LL Bean, Lands End, and Bonobos. Bonobos tends to have more colors/patterns than others, but they are also much more expensive (less so with a referral) but I would recommend going to somewhere like Levi's or Gap and getting a pair of their $30-$50 colored pants. This look requires a lot more color matching, but the result makes you POP to the ladies.

As for the shoes, the shoe guide is quite good. Avoid sneakers, and perhaps look into getting a pair of these or These, MFA's favorite shoe. Both are different than sneakers and different than boat shoes. These are most winter/full pants shoes, so you'll have to look into a different pair for the summer.

I hope this helps.

I've been living with only the contents of my 46 liter Osprey and a single plastic tub of clothing for about six months now. I could do without the tub of clothing easily (and have for weeks at a time while traveling), just more convenient to not have to do laundry every 4 days and also get fresh clean clothes every day.

My recommendation is to break up with a long term partner and let her keep everything. I never wanted all that stuff to begin with and it's awesome to own so little. I could be ready (and have been) for an international 4 week flight in less than 30 minutes.

Contents are pretty basic.

• Laptop. A thin ultrabook right now. Considering leaving this behind when traveling since, while nice, it's probably at least 20% of my bag's weight right now and I could live without it. Would be nice to get a gaming laptop that I would obviously never travel with but that's a pretty big luxury item since I don't play games very often.
  
• Chargers and external backup battery (about the size of a cell phone)
  
• Toiletries including tissues, a few paper towels, lotions and hair products, shampoo, electric toothbrush. I bought tiny little ziplock bags that I keep medicine in as well so I don't need a year's supply with me or a giant bottle. I write the dosage on the bag so I don't have to Google it if I can't remember. I have medicine for pretty much any occasion because the last thing I want to do when I'm sick or feeling shitty in a country where I don't speak the language is have to go find medicine and hope everything isn't closed. Also maybe TMI, but I have a portable bidet because it's nice to always feel "clean" and never have to worry about running out of TP when traveling.
  
• Travel pillow and travel towel. Never needed either really, only used pillow away from home a few times, but both would really suck to need and not have. I use the pillow as a "leg" pillow between my knees most nights and on planes to sleep a bit.
  
• One pair khakis
  
• One pair khaki Ex Officio shorts (doubles as swim suit)
  
• 4-5 basic grey v neck shirts (they're all the same)
  
• One pair of Nike workout shorts and a workout t-shirt. The shorts (when clean) are good for just walking around the house comfortably or when you need to go out for a minute for whatever reason and just want to slip something on. Also for working out, obviously.
  
• One dress shirt and a brown belt
  
• Brown boots
  
• flip flops
  
• Casual but stylish lace up loafer/boat shoe thing (grey). These are pretty flat and compress well.
  
• 3 pairs of ExOfficio underwear.
  
• Sunglasses and case for them so they don't get squished. Also premoistened lens wipes.
  
• Rain jacket and a stylish light jacket that can be casual or formal
  
  Clothes/jackets all packed in packing cubes. Makes it much easier to get what you want without tearing your bag apart. Toiletries in their own toiletry bag.
  
  The shorts and underwear can be hand washed very quickly and dry within 20 minutes. I can dress up nice enough for anything except formal weddings or funerals.
  
  Oh, and some wool socks. One long pair for boots and pants, a few very short (no show) pairs for shorts and loafers.
  
  Only thing I would change is making the khakis and shirts wool. But that shit is expensive. And reduce number of shirts to two or three since drying wool shirts is much faster than cotton and don't get smelly after a single day.
  
  One more thing that is probably my favorite is a travel backpack that can stuff into a small pouch. I use it constantly and it's super small and light. I have the Amazon Basics one.
  
  The tub of extra clothing just has a lot of extra socks (all the same pair so no hunting and matching needed), extra underwear (all ex officio), jeans (which I don't travel with but will wear at home, again multiple pairs of the exact same brand/style/size), extra grey v-neck tshirts (I own about a dozen of the same shirt, but only travel with about 4 or 5), and more dress shirts so I can look nice on a day-to-day basis. I care less about looking "nice" when traveling which is why I only take one. Tub also has several extra workout shorts and shirts, again all the same brand/style.
  
  My dress shirts are the only thing I own that has variation. They're all the same brand and fit, just different colors/patterns.
  
  Things I carry on myself: phone, gum, wallet, keys. Wallet is only driver's license, debit and credit card, folded up blank check, a single business card, and about $100 cash. I use a binder clip to keep it together because even the slimmest wallets more than double the bulk. Key chain has 3 keys and and a utilikey but nothing else. Very handy having a knife that makes it through TSA, in addition to a screwdriver and bottle opener.

Can't help you with the pants thing, but the shoes I can.
Business shoes:

• First option would be the classic business penny loafer: http://www.brassboot.com/shop/style/93391-222.html These will go with just about any business/casual look you can think of, from formal to denim. Certainly one of the most versatile types of shoes in and out of the business world, anything this style will suit your needs. Brassboot is one of my personal favorites, but any penny loafers will be a definite good bet.
  
  
• If you prefer something that many think is more casual, you can try the driving shoe (also known as frat cleats due to their prevalence in southern frat style): http://www.amazon.com/Polo-Ralph-Lauren-Up-Leather/dp/B003PGQ8UW%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-z-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB003PGQ8UW Very similar to the penny loafers, but without the heel and with a cleated underside. They are more comfortable for a lot of people because they are much less rigid, but this also means that they will not keep their shape long. I had the pair I linked to, and got about a year of use from them before the toes started to tear. The most popular driving loafers are Cole Haans:
  http://www.amazon.com/Cole-Haan-Grant-Loafer-Grain/dp/B00427E5W6%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-z-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00427E5W6
  
  
• I would suggest keeping Sperry's or boat shoes as far away from your business casual wardrobe as you can. If you really like the look of boat shoes, camp mocs are their slightly-more-dressed-up cousin: http://www.sierratradingpost.com/ralph-lauren-footwear-henley-camp-mocs-for-men~p~64004/
  
  
• Of course, this being MFA, I think it's necessary that I recommend CDB at some point: http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Desert-Taupe-Suede/dp/B000VWDZHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328190823&sr=8-1 You know what they are, they'll work in just about any scenario. They may not be the most comfortable shoe in the world, though, and depending on the office, they may be too casual.
  
  
• If you want to get a little dressier, or you like the look of laces, try wingtips oxfords: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF6105_1_40000000001_-1
  
  
• And finally, some nice suede bucks never go out of style, especially during s/s: http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=06L0&adv=127748&cm_mmc=plas-_-MensClothing-_-06L0-_-127748&kpid=06L0-02-07%26catargetid=1796447680&cagpspn=pla
  
  If comfort is really one of your main concerns, you will probably want to pick up some kind of gel sole to put in whatever shoe you want to wear. Also, loafers will need to be broken in to your foot. The best way to do this without hurting your feet is to get loafer socks, which shouldn't show at all.
  Also, check out the sidebar links about shoes.
  If you need anything else, feel free to ask
  (And if this answer looks familiar, I wrote it up three days ago and copied and pasted it here because you asked the same question).

> If not these, then what? You provided EXCELLENT explanations of everything that you don't like, but you've failed to suggest any non-sneaker alternatives.

I suggested sneaker alternatives because they fall in the same price range and are the same level of formality that the Skechers are meant to be. If you're looking for sharper leather shoes Clarks Desert Boots, Bucks, or a thrifted pair of Allen Edmonds McAllisters all fit the bill.

> While "you get what you pay for," you must understand that a single pair of shoes that runs $100 or more is just not something that everyone can afford.

None of these are currently $100 or more. If you can swing $60 for Skechers, you have $60-$70 for a different shoe. I'm a college student who pays my own tuition, and volunteers at the lab in my free time. The occasional odd job between those provide my entire entertainment/clothing budget. My 3 pairs of shoes are $3 thrifted black cap-toe oxfords, $19 nordstrom brand bucks, and $160 work boots I saved six months for. If $60 is too much for you your options are to wait for sales (end of a season is best for clothing), hits the thrift store, or stop worrying about fashion because you have bigger things to deal with.

> The shoes you suggested as alternatives are either skateboard shoes or a little childish.

Vans is a skate shoe company, but the authentic and authentic lo pro are clean, canvas, and unobtrusive. They have none of the faults that the problems of the Skechers. Keds are known for women's shoes, but the Champions are also sleek and unobtrusive. Same with the frequently-teenage-associated Jack Purcells, especially if you get the low top without the rubber toe cap. Again, sneakers were suggested because that was the design of the shoes in the original post. They're not the only shoes out there if you don't like them.

> Explain cheap leather to the unwashed.

In ascending order of quality

• Bonded Leather: Most super cheap leather is bonded leather. Bonded leather is leather fibers caked in glue then pressed into shape. That's what the Skechers were, and that's what you should really try to avoid for all the reasons listed in my last post.
  
  
• Suede: Suede is the bottom fibrous layer of the hide. While it looks nice and holds up better than bonded leather, it's thin and gets damaged by rain and salt. Sometimes one side is painted over to give it the appearance of top grain leather. The product is often called "genuine leather".
  
  
• Top Grain Leather: Top grain is the uppermost portion of the hide. It looks like high quality leather, as evidenced by the epidermis. It is, however, still thin and will not age well.
  
  
• Full Grain Leather: This is the full hide. It contains both the top and bottom layers unsplit. It's thick, develops a patina (wear pattern particular to leather), and if treated it will last decades.
  
  Boots and shoes with full grain leather generally start at about $150 and go up from there. Considering the cost of replacing lower quality leathers though you can often save money on the long term by buying better leather shoes first. If a $60 bonded leather shoe lasts you a year, a $300 full grain shoe need only last 5 years to cost the same and will often last far longer than that. If you need shoes right now for a job interview or to wear to work, go ahead and get some cheap oxfords or derbies. Otherwise I urge anyone to save their money for a while and get better leather.
  
  > I'd apologize for the snarkiness, but I mean it in earnest, so I won't. If you're going to attack something, fine. But try to take it a step further and recommend meaningful alternatives
  
  I understand that you feel like I attacked shoes you like and possibly own, so you feel I've attacked you or your decisions. I'd like to urge that that is not the case. The previous post was not aimed at you. It was a reply to a college kid asking what was wrong with that pair of Skechers. That's exactly what I addressed in only the detail relevant to the context. If the advice wasn't perfectly suited to fit your lifestyle as well, I'm sorry but that's what happens when you weren't the one who asked in the first place.
  
  Also, read the guides. A lot of us put a lot of work into centralizing and writing that information for everyone.

There's not a whole lot to go on here, what is your goal? Some people would recommend the sidebar, but personally I think it's a bit much and it tends to homogenize how some people look.

I would say, start off with finding some well-fitting casual clothes. Some white t-shirts, a pair of nice blue jeans (Try Levi's, 511's or 513's. Or spend a little more and get something nicer, like Second Narrow or 3sixteen.), and most importantly some footwear would be a good start.

For footwear, I'd recommend a pair of sneakers. What you get is up to you. Some recommendations I would make would be:

Vans sk8-hi's

Vans Old Skools

Adidas Stan Smiths

Air Force Ones

I'd also suggest a pair of boots, but it might be out of your price range. I'm a fan of black boots, although most people on this subreddit would recommend brown ones. Some nice boots to start off with would be:

Thorogoods (the plain toe is nice as well)

Chippewas

Clarks, although personally I would recommend you get Sand or Oakwood instead of "beeswax". The beeswax ones do not age well, and they are kind of boring.

Doc Martens I am a huge fan of this model in particular

Finally, I would recommend a black jacket to start you off with. What you get is up to you. It could be a bomber, a trucker, a varsity, a parka, an m-65, or whatever. An olive jacket would also be good, though maybe not as cool.

Other than that, it's hard to give you recommendations without knowing what you like.

Don't cut your hair.

(also, your face reminds me a little bit of The Arm, if he was less menacing.)

You need to read a lot from the sidebar. It will help. I know it's a lot to read and it's intimidating, but it's worth the time investment. Also start paying attention to what you think looks good. Movies, pictures, people on the street. whatever. with time you'll get better.

Everything is too big. Since corsair_002 did an amazing job, I'll try to just give a few specific recommendations. You dont need to take them, but it might help you get at least 1 good outfit going.

• Get some slim fit tshirts in solid colors with no graphics or branding. Navy blue, dark grey, & medium grey are the first ones I would get for you. You are going to want to pay attention not only to where the shoulder seem lines up, but also to the diameter of the sleeves. Being so thin means that most mall brand shirts will not fit you in the sleeves. I would only buy shirts that fit you there. It makes short sleeve shirts really look good on a person.
  
  
• Get some slimmer jeans. levis 513 or levis 511 in a dark wash like the rigid dragon color on the 511s. I would try the 511s first. if you are too uncomfortable in them, either give it a few days to get used to it, or try the 513s. Whatever the inseam is on your jeans now, you will want to try 2-4 inches shorter. You have what's called stacking, and when keeping things simple we dont want that much of it.
  
  
• while plimsolls are awesome and cheap. Try van authentics in the color labeled "true white". Dont worry about keeping them white. They look better when they are a bit beat up. Dont expect them to last more than a year.
  
  
• after you get plimsolls get some boots. clarks desert boots in the color labeled "beeswax" are cheap and look good. Chippewa gqs are the next cheapest, but decent looking boot. These will last you a few years.
  
  
• ditch the glasses. Get contacts and get some sunglasses. I like rayban wayfayers, since you have what looks like brown hair I would get the color labeled "tortoise shell" with the green lenses.
  
  
• I would grow your top hair out just a bit more and cut the sides shorter. Your haircut, glasses, & outfit are making you look boring. If I was you, I would fight that with a killer haircut. it can add a lot of attitude to your looks.
  
  One thing you dont want to do is get some slim jeans, nice footwear, dope shades, a new haircut and then wear a big old baggy shirt like this. You are a slim guy. Keep it all slim.

Absolutely. Desert Boots are great and if you like the look of them, but are looking for something cheaper, their Bushacre 2's are nice, just take some breaking in. I wouldn't say that any Clark's shoes are as comfortable as sneakers though (Wallabies have really cushioned soles, but lack stability. Desert Boots are less comfortable, but really solid, stable shoes).

That said, neither of those options are really "dress" shoes. There are "dressier" shoes that you could wear to church or to parties, but aren't meant to be worn in place of black dress shoes. Clarks sells some dress shoes, but they aren't particularly known for them and I have no experience with them. I personally like Cole Haans like many people here have said. I own this pair that are good for what I need them for (summer internship and interviews during the year) and are pretty comfortable after a bit of breaking in. Not sure what line of work you're in, but if its somewhere where you'll be working up the corporate ladder and wearing a suit most of your life, they're good starter shoes. Oh, and I think I paid ~$120-130 for them when they were on sale at a Nordstrom, so you can definitely get a better price if you're willing to wait.

I'm sure I'll get raked for this but...

You should start with the loved/hated "MFA Uniform."

Some of the big ones that are helpful for beginners:

Shirts: Given your claim of being tall/skinny/long armed I'd doubly recommend Oxford shirts and rolling the sleeves in lieu of t-shirts, as an OCBD is suitable for nearly all occasions. A rolled sleeve will disguise if the sleeves aren't the correct length, and will also help you to seem better proportioned. Prices vary a lot, but you should be able to find some affordable ones at virtually any retailer.

Jeans: Fit is obviously the most important for jeans. Trends favor "slim" jeans but not everyone can rock it, so don't worry if you end up with "regular," but for the love of God avoid boot cuts or the like. A big thing you need to know is that jeans fade over time, giving them a more desirable appearance (better contrast/visible texture). Because of this you should get dark jeans (which go better with most clothing) and allow them to fade naturally over time. Here is an album of Levi's 511 "Rigid Dragon" jeans after 3 years of wear, to give you an idea of just how radically the colors of your jeans will change over time. Wear them as often as possible and wash them as rarely as possible (wash inside out only, cold water, do not machine dry), as washing causes the color to set in. If possible just get some Levi's jeans, they're not that expensive and they'll last a long time.

Shoes: Three words my friend: Clarks Desert Boots. Get them in Beeswax and they'll not only go with almost any outfit, but will be appropriate for almost any occasion outside of formal ones. CDBs run big, so get them in at least a half size smaller than you usually wear. Try not to get them wet, they're meant for moderate dry weather.

That's some starter advice for you, I hope it helps.

P.S. Don't buy stuff right away, try to keep an eye out for sales.

Congrats! Although, for the record, "come back after you lose some weight" isn't very common advice in MFA.

As far as starting from scratch, the Basic Wardrobe guide in the sidebar is a great start, but you'll want to think about what works best in your climate, for your age, and for your job/school. It's a inoffensive baseline to help you be well-dressed while you learn and develop your own style. The incredibly abbreviated version is straight/slim-leg jeans in a dark, nondristressed wash, vneck tshirts, Oxford cloth button-up shirts with button-down collar points (aka ocbds), simple canvas sneakers in neutral colors like white or gray, and brown leather shoes or boots in classic styles.

Edit: More details for a basic wardrobe on a budget. I'm going to focus on things you can try on in person, since I think that's critical when you're starting from scratch.

• For jeans, Levi's 501/514/508/511, which should be available at every anchor store at every mall in America. JCPenney has newly-renovated Levi's sections in all of their stores, so that might be a good place to start. The numbers refer to different cuts (normal vs. slim legs, straight vs. tapered, etc), so I advise trying all of them on, and in a couple different waist sizes. If you're unsure about which fits you best, post a thread on MFA with some fitting room pics. We'll help you out.
  
  
• Mossimo v-neck tshirts at Target are usually $8-10 and fit most people really well. Almost everything they have is a versatile color, but for wearing with dark jeans, I'd avoid navy and black because they don't create enough visual distinction. For a quick fit check, make sure the shoulder seams of the shirt line up with the bony protusions at the edge of your shoulders. Too many people wear shirts with shoulder seams drooping halfway to their biceps, which looks sloppy.
  
  
• Target's Merona ocbds are also a decent choice, although this is a common enough shirt that they're going to have something very similar at JCPenney, Macys, H&M, or any store that carries a large line of men's clothing. Look for solid white or light blue. You can use basically the same quick fit check for ocbds that you do for t-shirts.
  
  
• A lot of mall stores will carry Vans Authentics, which are a classic canvas plimsoll. Some of the stores are going to be obviously targeting a teenage demographic, but you can just ignore everything but the shoes you're looking for. Look for white, off-white, or light grey. Avoid black. There's a misconception that black sneakers go with everything, but it's my mission to disabuse people of that idea. Black is a stark, somber color that's incongruent with the casualness of sneakers. Black's also not a neutral, and as I mentioned in the bullet about t-shirts, it doesn't go well with dark blue denim.
  
  
• For casual leather shoes, Sperry Top-sider boat shoes are a really popular option, but they're more of a spring/summer shoe in my opinion, so we're getting to the point where they won't be in season. Some versatile options that are more appropriate for Fall are desert boots, tan bucks, and blucher mocs. Unfortunately, these may be harder to find in local stores. Again, shades of brown are what you want.
  
  You can pick up all of this stuff for $300-400, which isn't a bad investment for looking good.
  
  2nd Edit: I just saw in another comment that you wear size 15 shoes, so mall stores may not work out for you after all. I put this guide to large-sized footwear together a few weeks ago, and you can see that most of the shoes I recommended above are available online in your size.
  
  

Fellow big-foot here. The struggle is real. I have wide-ass feet (wide ass-feet?), and have a terrible time finding shoes.

MFA is split on the sneakers thing, but I love a pair of New Balances just because they have consistently made shoes in my size. Depending where you work and who you are etc some simple, classic sneakers can look good with jeans and a button-up.

I love their classics line with jeans, and there are a bunch in size 15.

Generally, most classic, clean shoes work well with jeans and a button-down. I've been wearing a pair of white nike blazers recently which also come in a 15.

The MFA-favorite, the Clark's Desert Boot comes in a 15.

It looks like neither Apache nor Chippewa come in a 15, but you could probably peruse this post to find a brand that makes some. Even if they're a little expensive, always just buy the right pair of boots the first time! I skimped on my first pair, and I'm just counting down until next winter when I can justify buying the right pair.

GOOD LUCK!

Dude thanks so much, super kind of you. To be honest, though, and I hate to sound too picky, but I don't know if I like the look of it too much. I care about looks and functionality, but a slight priority towards looks. I do, however, love the High Fidelities after seeing them again. Do you think they compare quality-wise to the ones you linked? Not sure how to tell if its stitched and the right kind of leather.

http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/eastland-high-fidelity-lace-up-boots?ID=2552758&pla_country=US&CAGPSPN=pla&CAWELAID=120156340004107868&CAAGID=21133285952&CATCI=pla-159950614112&catargetid=120156340005304774&cadevice=c&cm_mmc=Google_Mens_Shoes_PLA-_-Mens+Shoes_Boots+-+GS_Eastland-_-80915960792-_-pg95324_c_kclickid_bc17f2a4-0bcb-424c-9b76-ef11b5739e4f&trackingid=474x95324&gclid=CK_zqr6Cz9ACFctKDQodNHwD4Q


and if theres not much of a difference in quality (although I'm sure there is as this is just polyurathane, not sure how quality the eastlands are though) then I might look into these

http://www.jcpenney.com/arizona-rydell-mens-casual-lace-up-boots/prod.jump?ppId=pp5007650018&country=US&currency=USD&selectedSKUId=62570670067&selectedLotId=6257067&fromBag=true&quantity=1&cm_mmc=ShoppingFeed-_-GooglePLA-_-Lace%20Up%20Boots-_-62570670067&utm_medium=cse&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=lace%20up%20boots&utm_content=62570670067&cid=cse%7Cgoogle%7C007%20-%20footwear%20%26%20handbags%7Clace%20up%20boots_62570670067&gclid=CI6FhKDhztACFQhLDQodPTAC-A&kwid=productads-adid%5E45810122978-device%5Ec-plaid%5E76121678738-sku%5E62570670067-adType%5EPLA

thanks again, hope I dont sound ungrateful to your last suggestion haha.

Edit: Oh and in case both of those are not worth it, I have a little bit on a gift card, so i was wondering what you thought of these chukka-like boots:

https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Desert-Boot/dp/B004DCSYWW/ref=pd_lpo_309_bs_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=P97NBZCT0GSAYT3JMV04&th=1&psc=1

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?pid=256632002

Do they compare to actual boots? These are basically the 4 I've narrowed it down to, let me know what you think, thanks!

spreading out the money over three pairs will get you three pairs of crappy shoes. If you need to start from scratch basically, two pairs for 150 would be doable. Since you're 17 and in high school, I'm assuming you don't really do much walking around in puddles/snow since you just walk from the car/bus to the school and back for the most part, is that right?

Do you have something to wear in the snow when it does snow? What do you normally do?

If that's the case, you can get away with getting some three-season shoes instead of a winter boot.Clark's Desert Boots in Beeswax leather is something that is recommended a lot (the subreddit logo is even a desert boot) because they look good with virtually anything besides shorts. The only problem with these is that even though they are a boot, they are a desert boot and are made primarily for warm climates. Even if you treat them with a waterproofer, water will still get through the seems and they won't keep your feet very warm. If you don't do much outside walking, that's not really a problem though. Try them on in a store first and then shop around for a good deal. You should be able to find a pair for like $70 or even less.

If you wear shorts, you need a pair of shoes to wear with those. A pair of light grey or off-white converse will fit nicely. Light grey is a little less harsh and you can wear white shirts with them. I have a pair of white Jack Purcells but when I wear white shirts, it feels a little too matchy-matchy. Chuck Taylors are a little cheaper (~$45) but they are more ubiquitous, while Jack Purcells look a little nicer imo (at ~$55).

you should have like 30 bucks left over after that, just save it or grab a pair of leather laces for your Converse. If you have to pick just one, I would pick the Converse if you're planning to wear shorts. If not, then go with the Clarks.

Oh, just remembered another option instead of the Clarks for you would be this LL Bean Blucher Moc. You can wear these with basically anything, including jeans and shorts, and they should be able to take more weather than the desert boots will. If it gets wet where you live, you might consider these instead of the Clarks or instead of both. When it gets cooler, use some of your other cash for some wool socks and that should look really great while still being functional.

If you don't have a winter boot and if it snows a lot where you are/you spend a lot of time outside, you might consider getting a pair of boots with your money instead. These fit your price range, look good, and should last through a lot.

Also you should check out /r/TeenMFA and /r/frugalmalefashion because there are a lot more kids in your age and with your type of budget restraints.

I agree with splitplug. A plainer shoe would be a better investment; they're more versatile. A nice cap-toe, balmoral, somewhat shiny black shoe would ideal. The Johnston and Murphy Melton can be had for $125 (most sizes anyway) on amazon. It's a leather soled, Goodyear welted shoe. They'll last years and are among the most quality shoes that can be bought at the price point. The next step you would be to something like AE for a few hundred, and then Alden's, etc. for a few hundred above that. Either way a Goodyear welted shoe (actually stitched on sole, not glued) is a steal for $125. I got mine recently. They haven't seen much use yet, but I've heard great things, and I'm happy with the way they feel. I hope this helps. I really recommend them. They're a good investment.

I disagree about graphic t-shirts, band t-shirts, and cargo shorts. Your beef with cargo shorts probably arises from everybody in the fucking world wearing them, so they're a bit overused, and sometimes too baggy. I'd say don't wear only cargo shorts, and don't wear them with the camo pattern.

Graphic tees are way to versatile to say, don't wear them! Lol, no one is wearing graphic tees to try and look badass (but don't wear skulls on your shirts for the love of god). 19, 20 is not to old to wear graphic tees. But there is a range. If it looks like someone threw up on your shirt, then no, don't wear that. However, there's nothing wrong with liking a band and wearing a shirt by them I think. The ones I don't like are the black background rock ones with 90% of the front taken up with some graphic and ones that have tour dates on them.

also this is a fucking awesome shirt, but I wouldn't recommend wearing it.

This however is better.

Funny t-shirts can come off as lame, but if you like it, then get it, wear it. Today I saw a kid in this as a t-shirt. I would not recommend that. This is alright, still not the coolest thing, but it can make you happy to wear it, and other to see it, so why not.

Not sure what is wrong with pac-sun, they have good shorts that fit this guys specifications, and some other good stuff. Just don't get the Volcom/Element label stuff, especially if it looks like someone threw up on it.

Don't wear too skinny jeans if you have no leg muscle.

He suggests wearing these and I've got to disagree. He's far off on the shoes in general. I think I have a better feel for you, and wearing dress shoes around is probably not your style. Get some sandals that aren't super cheap. I don't see anything wrong with New Balance, I'm sure the guy I'm replying too will, but only people who are really into shoes are going to look down on people who are wearing New Balance or the like. Just get something simple that isn't 20 different colors and patterns.

V-necks WILL make you look like a douchebag, the not so dipped collar, just a little bit to some people, and never, ever, ever the super low V-necks

It seems like you're already getting advice on the "new jeans" front (also check out the links on the side -->), so I can offer some shoe recommendations if you want.

Basically, there are a LOT of options in between "gym shoes" and "dress shoes." It really depends on your style. You could go with a simple canvas shoe like these if you want to stick with sneakers. For a slightly classier look, Sperry boat shoes are comfortable and never go out of style.

I love my Sperry Topsiders, especially now that it's getting warmer out, since you can wear them without socks and they go with shorts as well. But I live in an area where "preppy" style is the norm, so boat shoes are almost required :P

For shoes specifically with jeans, another common MFA recommendation is desert boots, especially Clarks. They're a great casual/going out shoe with jeans, and a good summer pickup as they are meant for warmer months.

Hope that helps! Also check out this guide for summer shoes.

A good computer bag.

Not even joking. It's the one thing I always have with me when on campus.

After that, this is going to sound cliche, but take a look at the MFA uniform and draw inspiration from there. Some Clarks Desert Boots, a good fitting pair of dark wash jeans, and an Oxford cloth button down look great together, and are a great place to start. You'll probably want to look more towards fall/winter styles than spring/summer styles though (unless you live somewhere that is hot in the winter).

Unfortunately it is hard to give specific advice without knowing where you're starting at, but remember that fit is king. There is nothing more important in the world of fashion than making sure that your clothing fits properly, and definitely check out the sidebar (over on the right).

edit: Oh, and if you're in a business program, make sure you have business casual or a suit ready (if not both). You'll need them for presentations and events.

This kind of thing is generally very open to interpretation depending upon your personal sense of style, so feel free to pick and choose from everyone's suggestions. Here are what I'd call the, "essentials" that make up my closet. [Note: Due to time constraints I will come back later and update this post with more items. For now here are some formal pieces and shoes.]

Formal Wear:

• One tailored, well-fitting suit. Invest in getting the proper alterations done goes a long way, and can make cheaper suits look ten times better than their more expensive counterparts. Go with charcoal or navy as a first choice in color (charcoal leans slightly more formal, navy slightly more casual). - J.Crew Factory Thompson
  
• When you're dressing formally, you want to look your absolute best. A baggy or ill-fitting dress shirt can undo all the work put into making your suit perfectly. Invest in either made-to-measure items, or take them to your tailor. The upfront cost may be high, but it's a great investment that you'll be thankful for when you stand out in the sea of frumpy shirted guys wearing sack suits. The number of shirts you should own will ultimately depend on how often you find yourself needing to dress up, but I'd recommend having 1-2 white, one light blue, and one light pink shirts.
  
  Shoes:
  
  

• A pair of casual leather shoes - Sperry Top-Sider
  

• A pair of casual sneakers - Converse
  
• A pair of formal dress shoes (black, cap toe) - Bostonian
  
• A pair of less formal dress shoes Allen Edmonds
  
• A casual boot - Clarks Desert Boot
  
• An outdoor/hiking boot - Thorogood
  
• A pair of running shoes - New Balance

Well, what type of boot you want? There's the [Chippewa Apache Lacer that's quite popular.] (http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-20065-Handcrafted-Lace-Up-Chocolate/dp/B0036VN8N6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370619118&sr=8-1&keywords=chippewa+gq) Near $100 depending on your size. Then the ever-prominent Clark's Desert Boot. Well under $100.

Or if you're wanting more dressy, JCPenney's wingtip boot gets suprisingly good marks despite its low price. No link because it's not online, but I've seen it roaming around my local store.

These are all pretty popular MFA selections and safe bets. Don't forget if you order from Amazon to sign up for there shoe mailing list and you'll get a 20% off code. Note you can create a throwaway email & amazon account and get a new code mailed to you if you've already used this once.

PS. Yes you can wear brown boots with a blue shirt. Blue (especially navy) is the most flexible color of the rainbow.

A: Congrats on deciding to dress more fashionably. I don't think that you should necessarily conflate this with dressing "more grown-up." Many grown-ups dress sloppily/non-fashionably/wear clothes that don't fit.

B: Good job reading the sidebar. For additional information I am a big fan of Alan Flusser's book "Dressing the Man." It focuses on what, today, is a formal wardrobe for the average man. It explains many of the "why"s of wearing items/fabrics/patterns. I also recommend the "Basic Men's Fashion" series of articles on the website fashionbeans.

C. There are a few keys to spending your money wisely. First, fit is key. Ask questions and read up in order to understand how each article of clothing should fit. Second, certain things are in or out of fashion. Pleated pants, for instance, are really out of fashion (with the possible exception of suit trousers). When in doubt, simpler is usually better when it comes to styling. Third, figure out what colors work together and what colors work for YOU. Your complexion will play a part in choosing what to wear.

D: It sounds like you may want a separate set of clothes to wear in the lab if there are really accidents as often as you say. It would just be unfortunate to buy some nice clothes and ruin them the first week.

E: The shoes are rather unfashionable. Some would even say "ugly." Ideally, shoes should be shaped to fit your foot. A squared or extremely pointy toe is a no-no. The toe of these is rather bulbous looking. Rather than coming to a smooth round toe they kind of flare out. In addition, the sole gives them a chunky look. This contrasts with the leather and the stitching just throws everything off. The shoes seem unable to decide whether they want to be a work boot style shoe (brown leather, chunky sole) or a more casual sneaker type of shoe (toe shape, contrast stitching).

F. It is sometimes said that your shoes should be the most expensive part of any outfit. Shoes can be pricey but when well-cared for they will really last. It is also a lot easier to find shoes that fit (for most) than pants or shirts as foot sizing varies less than body sizes. I would recommend a couple of the following classics.

1. LL Bean Moc
   
   
2. Clark Desert Boot in Beeswax
   
   
3. Converse All Stars
   
   
4. A nice clean penny loafer in brown leather.
   
   

First post here as a rookie, looking for advice on a few shoes:

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- My Clarks Chukkas (https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Chukka-Beeswax/dp/B004DCNN64/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1536692195&sr=8-3&keywords=clarks+chukka) have fallen apart (soles are cracked straight through) within 10 months or so and I'm looking to replace them with a similar aesthetic (i.e. brown/dark-ish, not black), but hopefully more durable. Any recommendations? $100-250 price point

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- My original thought what the chukkas above didn't hold up due to water, but maybe they are just cheap since apparently the soles are rubber? Either way water gets in through the soles VERY easily. I was thinking of (in addition to the above) buying a boot that's better in the wetter weather. I want something that can be semi-casual and worn with jeans/chinos. I like the aesthetic of the AE Normandy Boots in brown, but i'm afraid they aren't built for the purpose (i.e. light-medium water/rain) since they have leather soles. Does anyone have any other recommendations that are similar within the $150-300 price range?

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(What would be nice would be to eliminate the need for this second option and kill two birds with one stone with the Chukkas.)

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- Lastly, I'm mostly settled on getting some AE Park Avenues in Dark Chili to go with a 3-peice BL Midnight Navy suit I am ordering. No question here, just pointing out. These won out over the darker brown or Oxblood options.

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Thanks for the help!

Hey fellow midwesterner,

Try looking at /r/frugalmalefashion for deals. You can really get some amazing deals there.

But besides that, here are the few things I can suggest;

Tshirts: [Uniqlo Supima Tshirts] (https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/men/t-shirts/short-sleeve/supima-cotton/), H&M Basic Tees (Just because they are cheap and fits me perfectly), Wohven (Tshirt subscription for $8 per month which delivers good quality tagless plain t-shirts).

Shirts & Button Ups: [Brook Brothers Blue Oxford] (http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Solid-Oxford-Sport-Shirt/MG01372_____BLUE_MED______,default,pd.html?src=googleshopping&cmp=ppc_us_GG_pla_Men%27sShirts&gclid=CjwKEAiA2abEBRCdx7PqqunM1CYSJABf3qvaJzMdov7_cDkjagUYYv8vI7bsXNFBcoXyM6IgEsCkMRoCGY3w_wcB), Casual Shirts from Charles Tyrwhitt

Pants: [Levis Jeans] (http://www.levi.com/US/en_US/mens-jeans/p/045112110?camp=CAGPLA_DF:04511211003334:LEVI), [J Crew Factory Chinos] (https://factory.jcrew.com/mens_special_sizes/Slim/pantsdenim/PRDOVR~07310/07310.jsp), Jomer Chinos (Very hard to get hold of these, sign up for their newsletter and see when they are back in stock)

Shoe: Adidas Stan Smith (Currently on Sale), [New Balance] (https://www.joesnewbalanceoutlet.com/men/shoes/lifestyle/?Categories=men&Categories=shoes&Categories=lifestyle&PriceRange=&OnSale=&Icon=&Brand=0&PageSize=24&Page=1&Branded=False&ListType=Grid&Text=&Sorting=LowestPrice) (Good Prices at their outlet store), Clarks Original Chukka, [Golden Fox Boots for Snow] (https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dfashion&field-keywords=Golden+fox) (These are some of my favorite boots for cheap. They are extremely comfortable.)

Outerwear: [Parkas] (http://us.asos.com/men/jackets-coats/parkas/cat/?cid=12931), (ASOS usually have some good ones), Pea Coat (Not extremely sure where to shop for a good pea coat), Uniqlo MA-1 Bomber Jacket

Again, there are some of the basics, cheaper options that I can think of. Good Luck

There's really nothing safer than a mid-grey or navy suit, both of which I'd assume are interchangeable for both the interviews themselves and the meet and greet. If you're looking for brands and don't mind shopping online, Suitsupply is a great place to start (check out their purple line for <$500). The Copenhagen, Washington and Soho are their slim fits. eHaberdasher's Benjamin sartorial suit is fully canvassed, but the shipping on mine took a very long time (~15 days) and that may not be acceptable for your needs.

In-store, check out J. Crew's Ludlow suits (on a discount), J. Crew Factory's Thompson suit (by far the cheapest option here), Brooks Brothers Madison (the most expensive), or Banana Republic's Monogram. All but Brooks cost under $500.

For shoes, Johnston & Murphy's Melton is a good cheap option, but only if you don't feel like you couldn't already swing the black oxfords you own. Brown Allen Edmonds Park Avenues are a significant step up in quality and price, but you can't go wrong with a pair of brown cap toe shoes. They'll last a very long time.

I really only wear cheap belts and don't wear ties at all, so someone else could be a lot more valuable in those areas. Best of luck!

if these are your "moccasin style dress shoes", then what you're looking for are chukkas (or the "desert boot").
I've got a pair of those clarks, and really like them, though the soles are a super weird soft rubber material that will wear at the edges and darken quickly, but they find a balance pretty quick, so you don't need to worry about eating through the sole super fast.
I also just picked up another pair from CK, which have a much nicer sole, but are super narrow for my usual tastes.

It kinda depends on the rest of your style - what does a typical outfit look like for you?

Clark Desert Boots or another pair of chukkas might be a good start - they can fit well into most any casual outfit.

Vans Authentics, Jack Purcells, or Chuck Taylors are also good starter shoes and are usually good quality for the price - you can probably find better sales on other sites. This may be better if you dress more like a typical college student. I'd avoid the bright/loud colors for fall shoes.

Those are just wide suggestions based on knowing nothing about you. Examples of your usual style would help.

> I'd rather be comfy than be a walking billboard for polo or some shit.

I know I probably won't change your mind, so maybe this is really for anyone else who may be reading this comment thread, but you can be comfortable without looking like a walking billboard. It's actually really easy. Right now, I'm wearing:

• A shirt similar to this one (cost: $25) with the sleeves rolled up. No logos.
  
• These pants from Banana Republic (cost: $44). They're more comfortable than jeans and work with everything jeans do. Again, no logos.
  
• Clarks Desert Boots (cost: $60). Less comfortable than sneakers? Sure, but they work with anything and they last a long time. Still no logos.
  
  Is it the most exciting look? No, but it's pretty universally agreeable, relatively inexpensive, and I have no concerns about looking like I'm homeless.
  
  > Also, if you can't go a day without a shower before turning into a smelly piece of shit then I think it's you who needs a hygiene lesson.
  
  This is about appearance, not smell. If you look homeless because your hair looks bad when you're not showering, then you probably have to shower more. I have short hair, I can get away with wetting my hair and fixing it in a few minutes.
  
  > By all means, though, feel free to make snarky comments over the internet about someone else's life you have no idea about. I'm sure it will better you as a person somehow.
  
  I was asking a legit question because people assume you look homeless and you said you live out of your car despite staying at friends' places. But, sure, snarky.

Honestly man, I would say start with the basics. Get a hair cut that's somewhat clean cut (or at least cleaner cut) like this. I say get a cleaner cut, because this will balance out the beard...plus I just think it looks bad ass. Make sure your beard is well groomed as well. For clothing I would start with crazy basic stuff. Get a well fitted pair of jeans, not skinny, just well fitted. Some nice fitting T-shirts from somewhere like J Crew, or something and some solid colored oxfords. Also get a pair of starter boots, like these. This could be described as the "MFA uniform". This will just be the beginning to get you started. Check out the WAYWT threads and get inspiration from the outfits you see. Right now you might feel confused and frustrated with your style, but before you know it you will start to build your ideal style. This "MFA uniform" is a good, affordable start to building a wardrobe. Good luck, man.

awesome, those shoes arent really my style either, just sort of a safe, classic look at a low price. Honestly both those shoes you linked look pretty cheap and awful. How do you feel about these Allen Edmonds? Much higher quality, very classy, great dress shoes, and can even be dressed down.


Are you looking for casual shoes, work shoes, dress shoes, or a combination? another mainstay classic are the Clarks Desert Boots, a great shoe for at the office or at the bar with your friends.

I'm not a fan, personally. They're not most flattering and if you're just going to have one pair (I'd recommend having two biz cas shoes if one at least one is leather to give them a day to breath), I'd go with brown because I think its a little more versatile.

This guide is pretty helpful and has some links to further guides. But hard to go wrong with some oxfords, derbies, chukkas (the meme itself, Clark's Desert Boot in beeswax is your budget option), loafers, etc.

A lot of people will recommend getting some Allen Edmonds and similarly priced and they're not wrong. They're beautiful shoes that'll last you for years. If you can swing it, I would. But if you're not prepared for the investment and want something cheap, the Stafford shoes at JCP really aren't bad at all for the money. Here and here if you want boots. And they're on sale. But thats on a budget and they will crease, so use shoes trees after use.

Explore some of the styles I mentioned and check the guide. Don't just pick what I like, ultimately you have to like it.

Also, if you can get away with it at work, some nice clean and minimal detailed sneakers can be worked into a biz casual, depending on how casual we're talking. Like Greats Royale. But only if you can get away with it. I would definitely still get some nicer shoes.

I don't think you dress all that poorly for a 19-year-old college student, for the record, but if you want to change your style to something (a) more mature and (b) that she will be impressed by, do the following:

Step 1: Go to J. Crew (probably J. Crew Factory, if there's one near you - similar stuff, and much cheaper)

Step 2: Buy 5 button-down shirts you like, 2 polo shirts, 1 pair of dark blue jeans (can also get this from Levi's, which might be preferable actually), 1 pair of Driggs pants (navy, brown, or dark green)

Step 3: Buy a nice pair of casual shoes. I've been getting a lot of compliments on these recently, and this is a great price for them (I paid 79 euros for them when I was travelling in Europe this summer, didn't know they had U.S. locations until I just checked). /r/MaleFashionAdvice has been recommending Clark's Desert Boots for a long time, and you can't go wrong with them either.

Yeah I don't want to spend more because honestly 90% of the day my shoes are under a desk. I just really like the comfort level of the Sketchers. When picking out shoes, I would wear crocs if they were the most comfortable things on earth, looks are a far 2nd place.

That being said, if given a choice I would want what looks best if they are all the same level of comfort.

So you are suggesting these pair of shoes/boots? I gotta be honest, they don't look very comfortable. (I have sissy feet mind you).

>I know I probably won't change your mind, so maybe this is really for anyone else who may be reading this comment thread, but you can be comfortable without looking like a walking billboard. It's actually really easy. Right now, I'm wearing:
>
> A shirt similar to this one (cost: $25) with the sleeves rolled up. No logos.
> These pants from Banana Republic (cost: $44). They're more comfortable than jeans and work with everything jeans do. Again, no logos.
>* Clarks Desert Boots (cost: $60). Less comfortable than sneakers? Sure, but they work with anything and they last a long time. Still no logos.
>
>Is it the most exciting look? No, but it's pretty universally agreeable, relatively inexpensive, and I have no concerns about looking like I'm homeless.


That's a ~130$ outfit not including socks and underwear, though. Atm I'm wearing a $10 dollar shirt, a pair of 4 for $20 basketball shorts, and my shoes were $45 I believe? Maybe these are my $60 shoes, idk. They're similar, but these ones look less fancy and are more comfy. Not that I'm saying spending money on your appearance is a bad thing, but it's not something I'm interested in.

>This is about appearance, not smell. If you look homeless because your hair looks bad when you're not showering, then you probably have to shower more. I have short hair, I can get away with wetting my hair and fixing it in a few minutes.

It just depends. My hair can get frizzy. I have long curly hair. I usually have it under a beanie or if it's warm outside I have it up. Plus I usually only wash it every other day, otherwise it gets dry. I wash it, put some product in and style it, and if I put it up or in a hat the next day for a few hours before letting it back down it retains its shape from the previous day quite well. I live in the conservative south, so long hair alone is enough to raise an eye over depending on who owns the eye.

>I was asking a legit question because people assume you look homeless and you said you live out of your car despite staying at friends' places. But, sure, snarky.

Live out of the car meaning I can keep everything I need in my car while I couch surf. You didn't exactly take caution in phrasing your question, so why would I in phrasing my response? I hadn't, and still really haven't, been awake for long, and I enjoy poking at people on the internet to see what happens.

Also, I don't care if someone thinks I look homeless. If anything it probably keeps them from talking to me, and that's alright to me.

http://www.evanseasyspace.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Mast-Harbour-Men-Lavender-Marigold-Slim-Fit-Smart-Casual-Shirt_27a675a1a7e7136b1518097673ef32ec_images_1080_1440_mini.jpg

This seems to be the best that comes from the ill defined term "smart casual". My recommendation is a pair of chinos, leather shoes, and an OCBD. And if you feel underdressed maybe a light jacket. I'm guessing you're new to MFA based on your post so I'll post some links to get you on the right track:

• Blue OCBD: http://www.uniqlo.com/us/product/men-oxford-slim-fit-long-sleeve-shirt-088587.html#62|/men/tops/casual-shirts/oxford-slim/|
  
  
• Navy slim fit chinos: http://www.uniqlo.com/us/product/men-slim-fit-chino-flat-front-pants-128443.html#69|/men/bottoms/pants/slim-fit-chino/|
  
  
• Leather shoes can be either nice shoes or more casual ones. Here are some Clarks Desert Boots which are a bit more casual bit still look nice: http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Beeswax-Leather/dp/B004DCNN64/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404568400&sr=8-1&keywords=bushacre
  
  
• Get a belt which matches the color of your shoes
  
  
• MOST importantly, make sure everything fits. You will look like shit regardless if youre wearing a $200 outfit or a $900 outfit if things do not fit well.
  
  
• Please check out the sidebar for a much more detailed overview of everything, including fit guides, color schemes, etc. Please do this. Welcome to MFA!

Well, I can only speak from personal experience, but Nike Janoskis are super comfotable sneakers.

If you're feeling like going full MFA uniform, then the Clarks Desert Boot is also a great versatile, comfy choice.

Finally, at the higher end, the Allen Edmonds Mcallister wingtip oxford in walnut calf is a surprisingly versatile shoe that will last a lifetime and look damn stylish doing it, so long as you take care of it. Once they're "broken in", AE shoes are incredibly comfortable.

I'm brutal on my clothing, too. A couple things to realize here:

• Pay more for your shoes.
  
  
• A $50 pair of shoes will last 6 months. A $100 pair of shoes will last 18 months. A $200 pair of shoes will last 5+ years.
  
  
• Don't pay for the name, though. Pay for the construction & materials: full grain leather, goodyear welt, etc.
  
  
• Also, don't pay full price. Wait for a sale (Nordstrom 40% off, or a factory seconds sale, etc).
  
  
  
• Take care of your shoes.
  
  
• You can extend the life of your shoes by alternating out every day or two. This gives the leather time to dry out (sweat, rain, etc) and rest.
  
  
• Use shoe trees.
  
  Some examples of shoes that will last you years:
  
  
• Loake 1880s
  
  
• Allen Edmonds
  
  
• Alden
  
  
• Florsheim's Goodyear sets
  
  etc...
  
  You might be able to get away with one of these, but they're newer companies and do skimp on some finishing/construction. They're definitely a couple steps up from DSW or Kohls, though.
  
  
• Beckett Simonon
  
  
• Johnston & Murphy
  
  I've got two pairs of Allen Edmonds that I've had for about 2 years now (Strands and Fifth Aves). I picked both sets up as factory seconds directly from their Charleston, SC, store (called in, very helpful folks). Prior to that, I'd wear out a pair of dress shoes in 6 months. These both still look VERY good. I just replaced the heel pad on both pairs ($5 for the rubber pads and $5 for a huge tube of Shoe Goo on Amazon).
  
  Edit: Allen Edmonds has factory seconds sales every couple of months. Nordstrom has a lot of the mentioned brands, and have sales on men's shoes every 6 months or so.
  
  In-Store and Online 2014 Sale Dates
  
  • Half-Yearly Sale for Women and Kids—starts Wednesday, May 21
  
  • Half-Yearly Sale for Men—starts Friday, June 13
  
  • Anniversary Sale—starts Friday, July 18 and ends Sunday, August 3
  
  • Half-Yearly Sale for Women and Kids—starts Wednesday, November 5
  
  • Half-Yearly Sale for Men—starts Thursday, December 25 online, and Friday, December 26 in-store
  
  Edit 2: This site has some very good suggestions for under $200.

The Johnston & Murphy Melton Oxford is the shoe to buy. It is the best quality you can get in Canada at around the $200-$230 CDN pricepoint, before jumping up to ordering factory seconds of the Allen Edmonds Fifth Avenue, Carlyle or Park Avenue, which WILL end up costing you between $315-$350 CDN, after exchange rate, border processing through DHL, and shipping are factored in. Even if the shoes are on sale in the AE shoe bank for $170.

I know this because 8 months ago I ordered a pair of AE Fifth Avenues for Brooks Brothers during the last big sale, and the shoe that was $169 initially ended up costing me $315 in the end, given that shipping from Ohio was $40 USD, processing was $10, and exchange was terrible. On top of that, the shoes don't even fit, because the 5 last, which is used on the Fifth Avenue, Carlyle, Park Avenue and others, is too narrow.

Back to the J&M though: this shoe is, like I said, the best quality you can get around the $200 CDN range. Right now it is on sale in 8.5D at amazon.ca for $228.

It is the same price on the J&M website too.

I have seen it at the Bay as well, though it is not listed online currently. And I have also seen it on deep discount on amazon.com, despite it being in USD. I snatched mine up when it dropped from $175 USD to $110 USD, which made the exchange and duties worth paying for.

Anyways, here is why you should buy this shoe, given your budget:

AE factory seconds will cost you $310+ to order from the U.S. First quality AE "Bloor Streets" (Park Avenues) will run you $500 CDN+ tax at Harry Rosen in Toronto. But the J&M Melton is not only much more affordable, it is miles ahead of all the other mall grade crap you would still spend up to $160 CDN on at Aldo or the Bay.

The main shoes I see at the Bay and in malls are usually Bostonian, Florsheim, Aldo, Steve Madden, Kenneth Cole, Pegabo, and Stacey Adams. In almost all cases, these are all overpriced crap that you will still end up spending up to $150 on anyways.

Bostonian and Florsheim used to be good, but now, alongside the rest of the shoes in the list (except for a couple Stacey Adams products), they are shittily made in China, with corrected grain leather, and glued soles, which significantly reduce their durability and longevity, while also reducing their comfort. Not only are the designs ugly, but they are terribly built, with terrible quality control, and terrible materials. And they will still run you over $100-$150 CDN.

Meanwhile, the Johnston & Murphys range from $160 CDN on sale to $230, yet are miles ahead of all those previously mentioned brands. Of course, they are not at AE level, but the Meltons in particular are goodyear welted and made with full-grain Italian calfskin. My pair is beautiful, and is very close in appearance to the $500 Park Avenue. They are leather soled as well, and while they aren't made in the USA like AE, they aren't made in China either (made in India).

If you're willing to pay $200, I'd definitely make the jump up to $230 and get the J&M Meltons. It's a significantly better shoe than any other option in that range, and well well worth the bump up from Bostonian or Kenneth Cole or Aldo. Yet it's a lot cheaper than what it will cost just for you to get second-quality Allen Edmonds. On top of that, unlike the AE shoes on the 5 last, the Melton fits true to size. So you don't have to worry about sizing up or down. If you are sized as 8.5D, then order an 8.5D.

And if you're patient, you might even snag em on sale. Though they aren't at the moment: https://www.johnstonmurphy.com/mens-sale-shoes#srule=PriceLowHigh&sz=1000&start=0

I had a similar uniform im training for a job. If done wrong you can look like a busboy/valet. Things to focus on: belt, watch, shoes. You have to make sure your shirt and pants fit obviously.

But you can add a touch of personality with your watch and belt. Keep everything black since your shoes are black.

Black leather belt with a gold or silver face. If you get a black leather watch, make sure the metal matches your belt ( gold with gold, silver with silver). You could get black alligator or lizard watch/belt for extra pizzaz. I wore a gold pinky ring but that was personal taste , its up to you.


As for your shoes: i would go with black captoe oxfords but thats the most formal and would look better with a full suit. You could always get derbys or loafers but please please don't get any cheap, square toed, rubber soled shoes. Your shoes are the most important part. It will make or break you, but also i understand its just for work.

Make sure you keep them shined and make sure your shirt is always crisp and not wrinkled

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00LI77OXK/ref=mp_s_a_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1473200623&sr=1-31&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=seiko+black+leather+watch&dpPl=1&dpID=41EFwoJRDQL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000HGJNS2/ref=mp_s_a_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1473200900&sr=8-14&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=giorgio%2Bbrutini%2Bloafers&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0009BJXRQ/ref=cts_sh_2_vtp?pi=SL110&dpPl=1&dpID=41mT4Ff2bBL&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000HGJQNY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473201029&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=giorgio+brutini+24440

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CRMM5BG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473201142&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=mens%2Blizard%2Bgold%2Bbelt&dpPl=1&dpID=4195jcIsydL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BXEEG7K/ref=cts_ap_3_vtp?pi=SL110&dpPl=1&dpID=413vVaS14AL

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000UUEPU6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473201240&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=melton+cap+toe



Here are some shoe, watch, and belt recommendations. I don't know your budget so i went kinda cheap.

• Maker/Model: Allen Edmonds Park Avenue in Black
  
• Size: 11D (US)
  
• Price: $250 Shipped
  
• Wears/Condition: Firsts. New in Box. Never worn.
  
• Images: Album 1 Also seen in this album I made comparing them to the Jos. A. Bank Version.
  
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• Maker/Model: Alden 975 (LWB in Shell for J.Crew)
  
• Size: 10.5 (US)
  
• Price: $375 Shipped
  
• Wears/Condition: Used, but in very good condition.
  
• Notes/Images: I bought these from a SF user and they are in great condition. They are in use, but I'd prefer a smaller size so I'm looking to trade or sell. Album here. They come with box + bags. I'm not desperate to sell so price is pretty firm. Alternatively, I would be willing to trade for the same shoe in a 10 or some other Alden Shell in a Barrie 10, like the Perforated Cap Toe Boot with cash making up differences in prices.
  
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• Maker/Model: Clarks Bushacre 2 in Beeswax
  
• Size: 10.5 (US)
  
• Price: $55 Shipped ($40 + ~$15 shipping USPS 2-day priority).
  
• Condition: New in Box
  
• Notes: https://www.amazon.com/CLARKS-Mens-Bushacre-Chukka-Boot/dp/B004DCV1JU?th=1&psc=1

These are a little different from everything else you've posted, but with what you're looking for I think they'd be perfect. I'd go with the Red Wing Work Chukka. Not quite boots, not quite shoes, so no cuffs necessary. They don't have leather soles like Iron Rangers or Wolverine 1ks, so you don't have to worry too much about banging them up while working (Iron Rangers and 1ks are well made, but aren't made to be abused like other boots are). You can also wear them with virtually anything casual and they'll look awesome.

Thanks. I may buy those foreman chukkas. The other were very interesting, but not quite what I want for everyday use. I wanted to ask you about this though: https://www.amazon.com/Red-Wing-Heritage-Work-Chukka/dp/B0032UYMEU. They seem like they may be built more for comfort. The issue though about this and the foreman is that the soles look like they may be super slippery.

If you still want to find a good solid pair of shoes that are in between causal and formal, as with most people on MFA, I would recommend the Clarks Desert Boot in Beeswax.

They're recommended here so much because pretty they're not terribly expensive, can go with almost anything, and can be dressed down for a casual night with friends or up for your first date with that girl from accounting.

However, they're only good for the Spring/Summer/Fall months because they have no insulation to keep warm from the cold and the soles are slippery when wet.

I managed to get them at $70 from Amazon, but I think I got pretty luck if you take a look at camel^3. I'd pull the trigger at that price though because who knows how long you'll have to wait. They're wonderful shoes and paying +-$10 is worth it.

I feel like an asshole recommending these because it's become such an MFA cliche but Clark's Desert Boots are a pretty good transition from sneakers to shoes. They're casual but can be slightly dressed up when need be. I don't find them anywhere near as comfortable as sneakers but you could put some insoles in them. From how you described your wardrobe though any kind of dress/work boot (Red Wings Heritage, Wolverine 1000 mile, LL Bean Khatadin, Chippewas, Alden Indys) would go with what you normally wear. Those are just more pricey than Desert Boots. If you haven't already, check out the boot guide on the sidebar.

My suggestions from time spent on here:

1. Get him some Levi's 514 jeans. These are the best fitting jeans for non-super skinny people and they look awesome.
   
   
2. Buy him some shirts at Zara. The pants are too skinny for my legs but the shirts are a nice cut and run ~$60.
   
   
3. Finally, though they are simple, I love my Clark's Desert Boots. I bought them recently and couldn't be happier with my purchase.
   
   These three things all work as birthday gifts, they're all returnable, and they all look good on most guys. Check them out and let me know if you decide to go with any of them.

Looking to get some Clarks Men's Bushacre 2 (prefer them over the CDB) and was looking at them on amazon. The beeswax on there looks like peanut butter but I've heard people say that the ones they receive look more like the beeswax CDBs. Has anybody bought them and can confirm, and whats a good way to dress casual with the boots?

Thanks

I got a pair of Clarks Desert Boots in Beeswax leather for $62.20 (with the Amazon shoe promotion) last week.

They're my first pair of CDBs, and I'm pretty impressed. Comfortable, simple design, and they look great.

Clark Dessert Boots in Beeswax are great with dark jeans.

If you want something different, Allen Edmonds makes great shoes (I really love the McAllisters).

What kind of shoes do you like? What's your budget?

Just some general suggestions:

Desert Boots - Standard "r/MFA uniform" boots. But they are very classy looking, I get compliments for mine all the time. They are very comfortable to walk in and are usable most seasons of the year (but not too great in loads of water).

Plimsolls - Come in loads of colors, help tie together your outfit/make a personal bit of flair. Very clean, very simple. Loads of people love them.

Boat shoes - Personally don't understand them but people seem to love them. They're more of a spring/summer shoe, IMO though. Just remember, no socks or no-show-socks.

Thanks, I looked at the boot guide, I know I need something different. Yes I am more of a rugged dressing person. I do wear clothes that fit, I wear straight leg jeans and athletic or trim fit shirts. I cannot spend 300 on boots right now, I am hoping to spend less than $100.
What do you think about some of these?
http://www.6pm.com/product/7743791/color/216
http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Oakwood/dp/B0031Y6UXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314947190&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/FRYE-Mens-Hudson-Chukka-Slate/dp/B002U83KI4/ref=sr_1_107?s=shoes&ie=UTF8&qid=1347988689&sr=1-107
http://www.dsw.com/shoe/clarks+men%27s+bushacre+chukka+boot?prodId=dsw12prod4010277&category=cat20303&activeCats=cat20192,cat20303

In terms of boots: get a pair of Clark's Desert Boots.

Clarks Desert Boots are best in Beeswax for Leather, and Sand Suede for suede. They are the boots' most versatile color. Also, be sure to size down 1/2 a size from your regular shoe size.


What I'd recommend is something different: get multiple colors. ALL the colors of the rainbow so you never don't have a good time to wear a pair of Clarks Desert Boots.

Finally: if you aren't on a computer browsing reddit, get on one. When you come to /r/malefashionadvice you'll notice the sidebar on the right that is FILLED with all the knowledge to start you off on your adventure to look better. There's a section on How clothes should fit. There's one on Matching colors, and there's even one on how to build a basic wardrobe. That's just to get you started, now go on and learn! Learn until you cannot learn anymore!

Clark's Desert Boots. They may not look like much by themselves on those pictures, but if you try them on they look awesome. They work well with casual clothing and can be worked into more formal clothing. They're not too formal, nor too casual.

Try searching Google Images for "desert boots wearing" for pictures of men wearing them, so that you know how they look.

If you google "chukka boot" or "desert boot" you may find cheaper. Urban Outfitters have them. If you ebay it, you may find even cheaper -- and, depending on what you choose, better quality, after a repair.

Let's take a look at shoe prices. I'll take the top hit in each category, and use the default By Relevance sort. I prevent Amazon from keeping any state, so aside from geo-locating my IP (which would likely drive up pricing, not down), so any purchase history should not bias price.

• Women, Flats: Madden Girl Women's Shopperr Ballet Flat: $39.95-$49.99
  
  
• Women, Sandals: Madden Girl Women's Kain Wedge Sandal: $38.05-$49.95
  
  
• Women, Pumps: Betsey Johnson Women's Leela Platform Pump: $89.95 - $89.99 (almost into your range!)
  
  
• Women, Fashion Sneakers: Steve Madden Women's The Blonde Salad Tnyc Fashion Sneaker: $139.95: over your range, fair enough.
  
  
• Women, Loafers & Slip-Ons TOMS Women's Canvas Slip-On: $22.54 - $999.0 (the high price is an error)
  
  
• Women, Athletic: ASICS Men's Gel-Contend D Running Shoe: $28.98 - $64.35 (I assume that this shoe is listed as unigender for it to show up in the women's section as well).
  
  
• Women's, Work & Safety: Skechers for Work Women's Stedman Slip-Resistant Work Shoe: $64.95
  
  
• Women's, Boots: Nature Breeze Women's Vickie Hi Faux Suede Boot: $12.53 - $59.99
  
  
• Women's, Outdoor: New Balance Women's WT510 Trail Running Shoe: $42.99 - $64.99
  
  
• Women's, Mules & Clogs: Crocs Unisex Classic Clog: $15.25 - $49.95
  
  
• Women's, Oxfords: Ollio Women's Shoe Classics Lace Up Dress Low Flat Heel Multi Colored Oxford: $16.99
  
  
• Women's, Slippers: Bobs from Skechers Women's Keepsakes - Puffers Slipper: $31.89 - $73.53
  
  
• Men's, Loafers & Slip-Ons: Skechers for Work Men's Cottonwood Fribble Slip-Resistant Work Shoe: $69.95
  
  
• Men's, Work & Safety: Skechers for Work Men's Cottonwood Fribble Slip-Resistant Work Shoe: $69.95 (same item as above; might be popular and show up in two categories...)
  
  
• Men's, Fashion Sneakers: Levi's Men's Jordy Energy Fashion Sneaker: $37.95 - $39.99
  
  
• Men's, Atheletic: HUF Men's Sutter Skate Shoe: $59.99-$60.00
  
  
• Men's, Oxford: Levis Men's Mitch Oxford: $44.99-$50.00
  
  
• Men's, Sandals: John Varvatos Men's Tobago Stitched Thong Flip-Flop: $148.00 (all right, another one not only in but above the price range)
  
  
• Men's Boots: Clarks Originals Men's Desert Boot: $54.50-$148.50 (the options seem to mostly yield $79, but I'll grant that there's a combination of size and style that could get it up into and above your range.
  
  
• Men's, Outdoor: Polo Ralph Lauren Men's Faxon Low Sneaker: $30.68-$79.95
  
  
• Men's, Mules & Clogs: crocs Men's Santa Cruz Slip-On $30.91-$99.99. While these mostly seem to be ~$53, there is a combination of size and style somewhere that would boost this into the low end of your range.
  
  
• Men's, Slippers: Mens Fleece Lined Slippers: $5.99
  
  You can draw brackets where you want, but unless you're simply defining what most people wear to be low-end and hence not "normal", I don't think that $90-$120 provides a very good picture.

Is there a reason you have to buy them from that website?

CDBs are ~$90 on Amazon.

But yeah, those are the right shoe. They're super clean like that for a good three days until you beat them up a little.

edit: .au Don't hire me as a detective.

The desert boots recommendation is great. I've got a pair that I get a hell of a lot of use out of.

A suggestion: go for the "Originals" Desert Boot, as opposed to the Bushacre. The higher quality and increased comfort of the Originals is well worth the price difference. Sometimes, you can even find them closer in price.

The Amazon price on the Originals is all over the place, ranging from $70 to $130 (source).

Either way, I find the "Beeswax" color option to be highly versatile and easy to care for.

This is basically a standard first date uniform for me

OCDB with a button down collar: $69.50

[Indigo Jeans] (http://www.uniqlo.com/us/CPaGoods/itemcode=070929): $89.90

Beeswax CDB's: ~$75

[Grey blazer] (http://www.hm.com/us/product/02190?article=02190-A): $149

Interesting Socks: $14.50


Is around $400 (This might make it a little more casual and bring the price point down $20). It works with almost any occasion except for an extremely active date, where you'll be running around doing cute things... just feel confident that you look good.

like common_sense_ffs said, they're desert/chukka boots. They're versatile, often durable, and really basic. They work with a smart casual style (definitely not rugged) and they're one of the most recommended types of shoes for beginners here on MFA. You can get pretty good ones for under $100 from Clarks or L.L. Bean.

2 Lands End OCBDs (One white, one Blue ~$40 each (on sale) $80

2 Lands End Gingham or Plaid shirts ~$40 each ~$80

2 Lands End Tailored Fit Chinos (1 in light beige, one in khaki ~$40/each (on sale)) ~$80

1 pair Clarks Desert Boots in Beeswax ~$70

1 Navy Surplus Pea coat ~$40 at a Navy Surplus store

3 crew-neck Sweaters (different colors @ ~$50/each) ~$150

Levis 514s, dark wash or raw ~$50

LL Bean blutcher moc (not as ubiquitous as Sperry's) ~$70

Bean boots (For winter or snow) ~$90

Timex Easy Reader ~$25

Allen Edmonds Park Ave. (in brown) ~$200

That leaves you $75. Go to Target and buy plain short and long sleeve tee's from the Merona line and a few pairs of nice Merona socks.

That will be a very simple wardrobe that can be dressed up or down and should cover all of the basics that a 20 year old needs. The next pickups will be a blazer, more shirts, and more sweaters for variety. Remember that fit is everything; if you are slim, get the LE tailored fit, or take them to a tailor.

I've been wanting a nice, comfortable shoe. I've been on the fence between going cheap[er] with CDBs, because I've heard a lot of good things about their comfort, and these AE Strands. Any chance you can comment further on the comfort of the Strands (or even CDBs if you've worn them)?

Not exactly them, but pretty damn close--just swap laces:

Robert Wayne Desert Blake Boot in grey suede, or, Clarks Original Desert Boot in distressed grey. I have a pair of Robert Waynes and they are incredibly comfortable, purchased at a retailer in the mall for $25 USD, on sale. Incredible value.

or search 'Desert Boot' in grey.

gl!

Obligatory Clarks Desert Boots. or Stinson His. Both are great, versatile, and comfy as hell. I'd also say look at some nice boat shoes like this or this. If you really want a great pair, also look at Allen Edmonds Shoe Bank for a great deal on 2nd quality. the prices are higher, but you could find a pair in the low 100's on a good enough sale. I really recommend their penny loafers, as they can be worn casually or dressed up.

Also, what do you think of these ones I've come across? I know most people here love the Bushacres, and I was about to get them when they were about U$52 like they were a few weeks ago which was about A$80 shipped or something ridiculous. However, I'm not sure if there are any alternatives within my budget.

Seavees 3 Eye Chukka - Walnut Oiled Leather: A$100 (~U$80) shipped, image

Clarks Bushacre 2 - Beeswax: U$66.67 + U$22.95 shipping = U$89.62 (~A$114) shipped

Tretorn Oken Leather Chukka: U$79.69 + U$13.77 = U$93.46 (~A$119), image

The first two seem safe options and I'm not particularly convinced by the last one; it looks cheap. However, I do like the sleekness and more "modern" design, and that it looks different from the typical chukka boot. That's not as important to me as actually getting a decent pair of shoes, though.

EDIT: I like the aesthetic of these Tretorn Garde Stovel Vinter GTX Boots, apart from the lining. But I've got a feeling my feet would cook inside them here in Australia.

EDIT 2: Any opinions on the Eastland-1955 Edition Sherman 1955 8" Boots?

That's the women's boot though, but it says the same thing on the men's one.

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Oakwood/dp/B0031Y6UXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405515603&sr=8-1&keywords=clarks+desert+boot

I got mine from Amazon, from the Originals series too. Most comment on there, MFA, and everywhere else say that you should order at least a size down (in American sizes). I'm a 13 and I ordered a 12. I had to put a heel cup in mine so they'd be perfect, so I think I might even fit in 11s.

So, yeah, it's weird, I don't know what's up with their website, or if the model's just changed.

• Johnston & Murphy Meltons - $175 (available in 9, 9E, 9EEE)
  
• Charles Tyrwhitt Clarence - $200 (available in 9D, 9EEE)
  
  Keep in mind different lasts fit differently, so you may need to go up a size and down a width to get a better fit.
  
  Also, you're seeing finer leathers and craftsmanship from GYW/handsewn shoes, hence the price increases. Not to mention the overall costs of manufacturing are rising as well as the popularity of GYW footwear.

I would stay away from Puma boots. Especially since many of those look like high tops. Here are some of MFA's favorites:

L.L. Bean Katahdin Iron Works Engineer Boots

Chippewa 6" "GQ" Boot

Red Wing Heritage Beckman

Alden Indy Boot

And of course Clark's Originals Desert Boots

Take a look at these. It's guaranteed that they'll look better initially, with age, and that you'll be able to wear them much longer.

For boots, the standard recommendations are the Clarks Desert Boot and Katahdin Engineer Boots. There are additional recommendations in the sidebar.

Plain tees are great if they fit well. People here seem to like Mossimo tees from Target, but the best choice really depends on your body type. Just try a bunch of different brands to figure out what works on your build.

I am :) I dont own a pair but i hear on their own they are fairly comfortable and they fit they way you dress fairly well try these ones in beeswax

Would mink oil also be a good fit for the type of leather used on the Clarks Bushacre 2 in beeswax? If so, would it make them a darker brown? I love the boots, but I do wish they were just a tiny bit darker.

I'm sure you're familiar with them, but here are the exact ones just in case.

At least you got some closure as to what happened.

The one time I was stood up, it was by a girl who had replied to my first message EDIT: she messaged ME first (what a bitch!), was very quick to give me her number and texted me a couple times between when we set the date and the day of the date itself. So I was pretty sure she wasn't going to flake, I mean, she had showed a bunch of interest, more than some girls have showed when they actually DID show for a date.

I get to the tea house we set to meet at, and she isn't there, so I text to say I am here and waiting outside. It was like five minutes before we were supposed to meet, so I assumed she hadn't showed up and then peaced out. 15 minutes later I text to say I'm still there and hope traffic wasn't too bad.

45 minutes later, I send her a text about how annoying it was to make me drive all the way out to her area to meet up only to have her disappear entirely. I told her she should have been an adult and let me know she wasn't interested and that she should really reflect on what she did (totally pulled out a teacher scolding)

Then I went to DSW and bought a sick pair of boots that were an amazing sale price. She disabled her account, probably so I wouldn't send her mean messages, then enabled it again a day or two later. I dropped by once more to appear on her visitors list and hopefully make her feel bad one more time before hiding her.

These are highly recommend as a starter boot around here. The circlejerk is strong but they are a quality boot so many people like them: http://www.clarksusa.com/eng/product/desert_boot_men/26078358. There is a Clarks store near you at:

Clarks
7875 Montgomery Rd
Kenwood Towne Centre
Cincinnati, OH 45236
Phone: (513) 791-0548

These are cheaper on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Boot/dp/B0007MCUTK) however if you have Amazon Prime you can get them shipped 1 or 2 day. Amazon is also running a 20% off coupon if you sign up for their fashion newsletter which brings the price even lower. Size down 1/2-1 size of what you normally wear. I am a 10.5 but I bought my clarks in a 9.5

On the cheaper end, you can get this same style at Target for around $50. They are called the Estes boot if I remember correctly. It's called a chukka. You get what you pay for though as these won't last long. http://www.target.com/p/men-s-merona-estes-genuine-leather-chukka-boot-brown/-/A-14238857

These are also options from Amazon for around what the Clarks would be: http://www.amazon.com/Eastland-Mens-Fidelity-Lace-Up-Black/dp/B003CIPSD6/ref=sr_1_1?s=shoes&ie=UTF8&qid=1393961365&sr=1-1&keywords=eastland+high+fidelity

or

http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-20065-Handcrafted-Lace-Up-Chocolate/dp/B0036VN8OU/ref=sr_1_3?s=shoes&ie=UTF8&qid=1393961365&sr=1-3&keywords=eastland+high+fidelity


Just remember to use that Amazon code if you order any of these from there. The 20% works on anything clothing or shoe item

ALL CLOTHING COMES FROM SMOKE FREE/PET FREE HOME. I am selling these because I've lost a substantial amount of weight and can no longer fit these clothings. Prices does not reflect shipping. Discounts for buying Multiple Items! Please comment or PM for additional information.
Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/usr/atluu504 with 100% positive feedback.I accept paypal or amazon payments.

PANTS


Express Grey slacks 32x32

Condition 9/10 I gave it a 9/10 due to several wearings. There are no markings or stains on the pants.

Price: $25 $20

Levi 511 Slim Fit Jeans Rinsed Playa 32x29

Condition: NWT

Price $30

Levi 508 Taper Jeans Rigid Envy 32x30

Condition: NWT

Price: $33


SUITS

J. Ferrar Suit jacket Size 38R

Condition 10/10 Worn once to a function, pristine condition in suit cover.

Price: $50

J.Ferrar Suit Pants 34x30

Condition: 10/10 Worn once, matching suit pants with the jacket.

Price: $30

J.crew NAVY LUDLOW SUIT JACKET WITH DOUBLE VENT IN ITALIAN CHINO Size 34S

Condition: Never worn, New with tag. Same jacket in link, but in NAVY.

Price $160

J.crew NAVY LUDLOW SUIT JACKET WITH DOUBLE VENT IN ITALIAN CHINO Size 36R

Condition: Never worn, New with tag. Same jacket in link, but in NAVY.

Price $160


JACKET/OUTERWEAR

Bonobos Chino Blazer Size S

Condition: 10/10 Never worn, got it as a gift I have a 37" chest, and it fits a bit loose on me.


Bonobos The Nottingham Blazer - Grey Herringbone

Condition : 10/10 Never worn


[Express Military jacket w/ built in hood Size L] (http://imgur.com/a/Ujwp5)

Condition 10/10 Worn once to a function, I was never educated about proper fitting, so I bought the wrong size and realized it was too big after it was too late to return it. It's a bit heavy, maybe because it's a size large and I'm a size Small. The color is Black.

Price: $70



Jos. A. Bank Signature Sweater Vest Size M

Condition: 10/10 Never worn, Fits true to size.

Price: $30 $15

Express black cardigan Size L

Condition 10/10 Worn twice, athletic fit Great fit if you are wear a size large

Price: $25 20

Express Black V-neck sweater Size L

Condition: 10/10 worn once, athletic fit Grat fit if you wear a size large

Price: $30 $25

Express black 1/4 zip Mock sweater Size L

Condition: 10/10 worn once, athletic fit Great fit if you wear a size large

Price: $40 $35

SHIRTS

Bonobos Vintage Wash Tee - Crewneck Pomegranate or Lavender S/M/L

Condition: NWT

Price: $7

Express Pique Polos
Red: XL
White:L
Yellow:L

The red polo was worn about 4 times, the rest were worn once.

Price: $10 for Red, $15 for White or yellow

SHOES

Clarks Desert boots Beeswax 8.5M and 9M

Condition: 9M worn once for about 20 minutes, while 8.5M is New in box.

Price: $60 for the 8.5, $55 for the 9M

[Keds Triump Chambray Size 10.5] (http://imgur.com/a/P8xgX)


Condition: Brand new with box, got it as a gift but it was the wrong size.

Per the wonderful suggestion via /u/barshat, an itemized list.

Left to Right, Top to Bottom

Tops:

• Wings+Horns T-Shirt in Gray
  
• Wings+Horns T-Shirt in Charcoal
  
• Wings+Horns Henley Tee in White
  
• Wings+Horns Henley Long Sleeve in Navy
  
• Everlane Zip Hoodie Sweatshirt in Navy Marled
  
• Everlane Street Fleece Zip Hoodie in Heather Gray
  
• Marmot PreCip Jacket in Greenland
  
• Arc'teryx Squamish Hoodie in Silver Lining
  
• North Face Black Label Denali Jacket in Mountain Moss
  
• Naked and Famous Weird Guy Selvedge Chinos in Beige
  
• Naked and Famous Weird Guy Selvedge Chinos in Black
  
• Naked and Famous Weird Guy Stretch Selvedge in Indigo
  
• Nike Flyknit Racers Multicolor 2.0
  
• Converse x CDG Hightops
  
• Clarks Desert Boot in Beeswax
  
• Wings+Horns Leather Trainers in Black
  
• Common Projects x MR PORTER Achilles Low
  
• Adidas Ultra Boost in Tan
  
  And because the CDBs were so controversial, here's a version that will make you guys feel better.
  
  enjoy.
  

Yeah, you're going to want a cap toe or full cut oxford.

MFA's annual favorite from Allen Edmonds

budget option from a new company

Meermin, better than Allen Edmonds IMO. Takes a while to ship

Well established budget option from Johnston & Murphy

e-bay can be a treasure trove of lightly used and new shoes for very cheap.

their are plenty more options up and down the price scale. But these are some of the big popular ones.

Lose the shoes lose the shirt, wear a nice button down preferably something darker to go with the pants find a nice brown belt and some nice leather shoes or something more like this if you want to look extra cool I would prefer you wear a watch with a brown leather strap if you have one, also dont bring the smokes of you unless you KNOW she smokes, I have found girls that don't smoke find that unattractive. Good luck
Edit: Also I recommend you check out the sidebar

Dang. To be fair, the company closed down, so I'm not too surprised - they're essentially just selling the leftovers now.

To be honest, I just got into this fashion thing recently (2 months ago?) myself. I can't say I know too many others specifically like the Simple in that price range, but a google image search for "chukka" or "desert boot" yields a ton of examples.

I'd check /r/frugalmalefashion for sales - for example, the Lands End Jackson Chukka is a good cheap alternative to the now-famous (and MFA classic) Clark's Desert Boot. I just got a pair myself, and they're very solid for the price. Admittedly they're more on the formal side than the Simple shoes, but there are plenty of less fancy chukka options (Vans even makes a pair, but their sole is kinda ugly IMO).

Unfortunately, it looks like they're sold out of the Tan ones, but if you don't mind a dark brown (better for winter) look, they might have your size hanging around. Other good options are the current half-annual Nordstrom's sale, and the Anniversary Nordstrom sale which hits July 20.

I'd be patient and stay observant. Something always come along :).

The ubiquitous Clarks Bushacre 2 is worth mentioning, because you can grab them for less than $70 shipped in the US. I usually wear holes through the soles of shoes within 6-9 months, and while those holes have started showing up at the 10 month mark, the upper is fine even though I don't really take care of them. It's not uncommon for the Bushacres to be on /r/frugalmalefashion for $65. Journeys and Macys carry them for $79-$120. Let me know if you want pictures.

Florsheim and John Varvatos offer some options with a dressier look around the same price, though I can't offer any first hand experience with them.

Browsing through /r/goodyearwelt may be of benefit to you if you're looking for high-quality, made to last footwear. Goodyear welting means the upper is stitched to the midsole, so when the sole wears out a cobbler can replace it. These shoes tend to be pricier, starting around $200 new for the decent stuff with the diminishing returns coming in around the $800 mark for most people, but in general, you get what you pay for.

Here's a great article on chukka options to look into should you decide to spend a bit more.

I KNEW someone would say that!

In all honesty Clark's Desert Boots are a great place to start. It's a well rounded boot that can be found easily under $100. There are also several different colors, materials, and you can find the cheaper Buschacre II variety which have a rubber sole.

I'd be amiss if I didn't also mention the Gafney Wingtip.

I had a question about some chukka style boots I'm interested in. You said be dubious of Cole Haan and I was wondering if it's because of the style or the workmanship. I was looking at these which are on sale for $90 at the moment. I was planning on getting a beeswax leather CDB instead but I thought the Cole Haan ones looked pretty decent too. Thanks in advance for any insight you might have.

$98 w/ shipping?

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Desert-Taupe-Suede/dp/B000VWDZHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328190823&sr=8-1

Depending on your size, with the 20% off coupon, Amazon is cheaper.

So yeah, sounds legit and fine for the price. I'm sure the Paypal/Ebay process for getting a refund on fake/fault products is good too, though never dealt with that.

Yeah I mean darker brown should be alright.

It's such a MFA cliche and I feel like I'm on MFA circlejerk even for saying it, but have you looked at Clarks Desert Boots? They're like the staple shoe for what you want. They can be dressed up, dressed down, pretty much a do it all shoe that's cheap.

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B002IFNVK6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341714315&sr=8-1&keywords=clarks+desert+boots


And be warned: they're going to strike you as ugly when you look at them. But remember, you wear them with pants, so they're going to look more like this when you actually try to wear them. I had an aversion to them when I started getting into fashion, but when I finally tried on a pair I loved them.

http://doc.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pDOCK1-10464671v291a.jpg

Suitsupply will last a while, it's comparable to Brooks Brothers not-premium end line. Great fit too.

I'd go with Johnston+Murphy for shoes. The melton oxford is a good budget pick

Better. The top looks good. Now for the rest.

Get some new jeans and some new shoes. Generally, you wanna get shoes that aren't too flashy. Avoid stuff with too many colors and overdetailing. Stick to classics. I'd recommend either vans or SIMPLE nikes for sneakers. Get some Clarks:

(http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Desert-Taupe-Suede/dp/B000VWDZHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328190823&sr=8-1)

or some boat shoes if you're older or going for a business-casual kind of thing.

This really belongs in /r/frugalmalefashion but let me have a look.

Edit: notich cheaper, you are already looking at a pretty price effective pair, but Clark's is always an option: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0007MCUTK/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/182-5374533-8513748

(asking lots of questions today, sorry!) Does anyone know a cheaper version of the Redwing classic chukka http://www.amazon.com/Red-Wing-Heritage-Work-Chukka/dp/B0032UYMEU . I know they look a lot like CDB but I really dig the flat sole on them as apposed to the heel on CDB's and was wondering if there was a cheaper alternative like them. Thanks!

Clarks Desert Boots, Sperry Boat Shoes, and Vans Authentic in pretty much any basic color. Shop around on any of those you can find pretty good sales on them almost anywhere, with the exception of maybe the desert boots. 80 is the cheapest I have seen for those recently.

People are straight up confused if I wear dresses to work. We are not a sartorial bunch.


re: shoes, I consider pretty much anything that isn't sneakers as nicer shoes. There are some nicer sneakers though. I think these look nice. Although, double standard, because I wear sandals meant for 'hiking' about 90% of the time. Most of it while not actually hiking.

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Bushacre-Lace-Up-Beeswax-Leather/dp/B004DCSYZY I got these for $60, they're very similar in style to CDB's but the quality isn't as good. I personally own a pair and I love them. Since they're both made by Clark's, very similar in style to CDBS and lower in price, I think they're a perfect match for your brother.

Here's an album I found that compares Bushacres and CDBs.

• Clarks Desert Boots in Beeswax
  
  
• In orginal box
  
  
• Size 11
  
  
• Worn 3 times
  
  
• Selling because they are too big for me
  
  
• Will trade for a 10.5
  
  
• $75 shipped
  
  
• PF Flyers Sandlot Edition
  
  
• worn in good condition
  
  
• size 11
  
  
• Trying to make some room for some new shoes
  
  
• $20 shipped (that pretty much just covers cost of shipping and like 5 more dollars)
  
  
• PF Flyers Center Hi Reissue
  
  
• A little newer and less worn than the others, in good shape
  
  
• size 11
  
  
• $25 shipped
  
  
• 2 pairs of Levis 511
  
  
• both size 34x30
  
  
• both dark navy
  
  
• one is rinsed playa, the other is rinsed indigo
  
  
• both in excellent shape, with no visible signs of wear and tear
  
  
• $35 for both shipped or $20 seperated
  
  

Sweet! Thanks for that.

But just to be clear (I'm still a bit new to Clark's) you're talking about the Beeswax Leather pair, right?

https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Bushacre-Beeswax-Leather-US/dp/B004DCNN64/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1465503249&sr=8-2&keywords=desert+boot+clarks

Just so you know, if you really want Clark's you might be better off watching Amazon and Zappos than shopping at their stores, as you are likely to get a much better price. Right now you can get Clark's desert boots for <$85 on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WUAP9E/

If you are looking for good shoes at low prices, I can't recommend /r/frugalmalefashion enough.

I agree with the rest, I bought a pair of Clarks DB recently for $77 and the comfort and quality of the make are great. Check amazon.com for the prices (usually $83 and under). I had to get a half-size smaller, because they make them a bit wide, so check with your local store and try them on before ordering.

Sure! Obviously everyone has their own tastes, so some people may disagree, but here are some classic "must-haves".

Summer:

Converse Chuck Taylors
https://www.amazon.com/Converse-Chuck-Taylor-Black-M9166/dp/B00G2C9ZH4/

Sperry Top-Siders:
https://www.amazon.com/Sperry-Mens-2-Eye-Burnished-Brown/dp/B000FK738M/

Winter:

Clark's Desert Boots
https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WU8SBQ/

JCPenney Stafford Wingtips (more formal)

http://www.jcpenney.com/stafford-logan-mens-wingtip-oxfords/prod.jump?ppId=pp5003861327

Those are pretty much the standards they will recommend to you over at /r/malefashionadvice. Check out that sub for a thousand more recommendations!

I would choose either chukkas or bucks i cant say much on comfort, since i just started wearing chukkas and i dont have a pair of bucks but i would say they are the best looking imo. and when buying shoes or picking my shoes with my outfit i use this guide

Value Village with Community Donations hooked up to them (not sure if they all have them) are great depending on location. The closest one to me (less than five minutes!) is stuck dead between three wealthier cities in the area, and I constantly find really good deals in my size.

AG pants with their tags still on (marked at $230) for $13 last month in my size. They also had these exact clark's chukkas with no wear on the soles that I snagged as well for $9. A little tight at the tip since I have wider feet, but I wasn't going to pass up that opportunity.

Clark's Bushacre DB Dark Brown Color

I have a pair of Chippewa Chocolate Apache Lace up boots, and I'm afraid the color may be too similar. Many of my friends are saying to get the beeswax leather color, but I'm not in love with it. I like the richer color of the dark brown. Any alternative suggestions?

I recommend using camelcamelcamel.

Go here http://camelcamelcamel.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/product/B000WUAP9E?active=price_amazon you can see a chart of the price fluctuations of the boots over time (the link is for the CDB Beeswax in size 9 - you can definitely look for any other item on Amazon). You can set a price alert so that you'll get an e-mail if the price ever drops below a threshold (say, $80).

Another option is Amazon Warehouse Deals - with patience, you'll find a pair that someone has returned and Amazon will resell them at a cheaper price.

Worth noting: Red Wing also makes non-heritage chukkas.

I believe both are an improvement over the leather quality and build construction of CDBs. Whether it's approximately $120->$200 worth of improvement is really up to you.

I wasn't sure, so I looked it up. Nordstrom Rack is a clearance division of Nordstrom with discounts in the 50-60% range.

> Aren't penny loafers a little formal for jeans?

It would appear that way. But depending on the jeans, you might be able to get away with the less formal boat shoe. And I recently got my second pair of desert boots (versatile piece of footwear). If you go with Clarks desert boots, I recommend following this advice. The options are out there, and we're here to help. :)

Well, Clarks Desrt Boots are casual and look very nice, but you would have to break them in to feel nice. At $70 you can snag a pair from amazon in Beeswax.

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Boot/dp/B0007MCUTK

Clarks Desert Boots are always a great choice for dark jeans. I'd try not to spend more than $80 on a pair, though. Amazon might have your size/color at a good price.

link

the meltons in black are currently only $122.50 when sold by amazon for nearly all sizes. they're definitely worth looking at. I have the bordeux color, and they're really quite nice for what they are and their price point.

http://www.amazon.com/Johnston-Murphy-Melton-Oxford-Black/dp/B000UUGP18/

I got lucky and got them off Amazon for $67 in late July without the 20%. The price fluctuates quite a bit depending on the day and seller. I'd say anything under $80 for new is a great deal. Keep checking the price and use http://camelcamelcamel.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/product/B000WU8SBQ?context=browse

I really don't like that (canvas?) panel on the upper. As played out as they are, I think CDBs probably fit your needs best.

you don't really need a guide on how to wear jeans and polos. Jeans basically go with any color so go to marshalls or Uniqlo and grab 5-10 polos and oxford button downs in any colors you like. You can stay way under $50 a shirt. probably 1/2 that easily.

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Then get a pair of Clark's Bushacres in beeswax, and maybe something like a Red Wing derby from Nordstorms Rack for casual shoes since you shouldn't wear the same shoes every day.

I created the info graphic myself in photoshop. I can try to help you find links for all the items if you would like.
Here are some links to the items. I couldn't find links for all of them:

OUTERWEAR:

• Goodthreads Men's Lightweight Military Jacket
  
• LL Bean Mountain Classic Anorak
  
• LL Bean Warm-Up Jacket, Fleece Lined (Green)
  
  TOPS:
  
  
• H&M Sweaters (Grey and Green) Not the exact item but closet I could find.
  
• H&M Flannel (Red and Black)
  
• Various Crewneck Tees (Grey, White, Green, Navy)
  
• Goodthreads Men's Slim-fit Long-Sleeve Solid Oxford Shirt
  
• Goodthreads Men's Slim-fit Long-Sleeve Plaid Herringbone Shirt
  
• Goodthreads Men's Long-Sleeve Lightweight Slub Henley
  
  
  BOTTOMS:
  
  
• GAP Black Jeans
  
• Levi 511 Jeans
  
• American Eagle Slim Chinos
  
  
  SHOES:
  
  
• Golden Fox 6" Boondocker Boots (Brown)
  
• Nike Killshot 2 (Off White)
  
• Clarks Men's Bushacre 2 Chukka Boot
  
• Vans Old Skool
  
  

Shirts: Size, Medium

1. $30 White OCBD
   
2. $30 Light Blue OCBD
   
   Jacket
   
3. $88 Berkman Trucker Jacket
   
   Pants: Size, 32/30
   
4. $40 Gray Chinos
   
   Shoes: Size 10.5
   
5. $50 White VANS
   
6. $50 Grey VANS
   
7. $60 Navy Sneakers
   
8. $115 Beeswax Dessert Boots
   
   Sunglasses
   
9. $95 Black Wayfarers
   
   Watch
   
10. $55 Watch
    
    This was my list that I gave to Family/Friends. It's basically my first attempt at dressing nice, so any criticism/suggestions would be great. It was basically completely based on this, besides the jacket, watch, and sunglasses.

Check this link. Looks like they're on sale to me. Also could anyone help me out with sizing on these boots. I'm usually a standard US11 and take a converse size9. Does anyone here know how true to size these are?

Honestly, I think these shoes are pretty ugly - I don't think the patch on the sides works very well and I think you could get a much more versatile shoe than these.

I'd personally recommend you look at some brown chukkas (CDBs etc), some plain tan bucks (eg Bass Buckinghams) or possibly some camp mocs (eg LL Bean camp mocs)?

These are all a lot cleaner and versatile than the Florsheim; and more often than not simpler looks nicer.

Not sure if it helps but you can pretty much assemble the MFA uniforms:

1.0:

OCBD - Uniqlo

Levi's 511s - David Jones, Just Jeans, General Pants Co. etc

Clarks Bushacres (beeswax)


2.0:

Tees - Hallensteins (or Industrie if on sale)

Sweater - Uniqlo

Levi's 511 as above

Vans Authentics (True White) - eBay

• Leather laces: 90cm (optional)
  
  3.0:
  
  OCBD - as above
  
  Chinos (olive) - Uniqlo
  
  Vans Authentics as above
  
  4.0:
  
  Olive-ish jacket or parka
  
  Blackwatch Flannel - Uniqlo (dark green)
  
  Levi's 511 as above
  
  Thorogoods (if you can afford it) or Clarks as above

Those are Red Wing Chukkas.

In the future please put quick questions like this in the daily Simple Questions Thread. :)

Dessert boots.

https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Boot/dp/B0007MCUTK

His might be a more expensive brand / pair. But the style is pretty popular. The Clarks Dessert Boots have achieved meme status over on r/MaleFashionAdvice due to how much they were recommended as a basic style piece.

I didn't mean to downplay the shoe, my point was simply that it's not quite as good as Allen Edmonds, which are also much more expensive so it's to be expected. Another alternative is the J+M Melton. A good second shoe is something like the the Lexington in burgundy. Burgundy will also work with grey and black, and it gives you a different color option. However, if you want another black shoe consider a semibrogue like this.

I would highly recommend these Redwings.
They normally sell for around $250 but I've seen them cheaper on ebay etc. They're by far the most comfortable boots I own.

In that case the bigger boots like Iron Rangers, 1000 mile boots and Katahdins are out. But I'd still consider some chukkas or desert boots. I currently own and love the MFA standard Clarks (beeswax is probably the color you want) and these Red Wing chukkas.

Desert boots are a type of chukka boots. They look great with jeans, I recommend Clarks in beeswax. Wait for a sale though, you can find them for around $60 if you are patient.

They look a lot like Clark's Desert boots. And if they're not, you should get these anyway because they are awesome.

Welcome to MFA. Do you have time to talk about our lord and savior, CDB?

In all honesty, there's a reason these are memes at this point. CDBs have earned their place as a solid addition to any wardrobe trying to be more mature than sneakers while still keeping the jeans. I like Bushacres just as much as Desert boots, but they are both interchangeable in a wardrobe.

https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Chukka-Beeswax/dp/B004DCV1JU/ref=sr_1_3?crid=T1KZSE6Q57ZR&keywords=clarks+desert+boot+men&qid=1557766696&s=gateway&sprefix=clarks+de%2Caps%2C126&sr=8-3

Quoddy's suede blucher is a great option that can be worn on the casual side of bizcas.

JCrew's suede bucks have a nice shape and similar color to what you linked.

Clark's DB make the ubiquitous casual-but-can-be-dressed-up, taupe chukka.

well.. it's saturday night and my girl is no where to be seen, so let's see;

black levi's 511 - $50

a pair of selvedge 513 slims - $80

dark indigo button down - $50

light striped chambray - $37

obligatory light blue oxford -$30

asos navy jacket - $60

khaki chino - $54

dark green chino - $68

clarks DB beeswax - $80

2x mens pocket t shirt - $30

2x mens v neck t - $30

2x mens organic cotton t - $30

5 x plain socks - $15

2x 3 pack of underwear - $40

all up around $650ish without postage..

would keep me happy for the time being :)

Seems like you've gotten a good deal of help with the first pair but I might be able to help you with pair #2. Vans actually makes a chukka style sneaker which isn't exactly like what you linked but has the same sneaker/boot hybrid silhouette. Also you could always try the MFA basic staple CDB or the slightly cheaper Bushacres. If none of these work for you do a search for "Chukka Sneakers" and spend some time shopping around/ doing research.

The burnishing (discoloration on the toe) is off-putting imo. Never been a fan of it. Also, broguing on a plain-toe feels... strange. If you're looking at Clarks, just grab the Desert Boots- with a little waterproofing they're perfectly acceptable fall boots.

Alternatively, for something with some more weather-resistance, up your price tier and look at Red Wing's Chukka. For something closer to the price of the Clarks but a better-looking boot, the Chippewa Apaches get good reviews around here.

Boots? Leather? Brown? 100 dollars? Clark's Desert Boots seem like a good match for you. Here

What about a shoe like this? https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Desert-Boot-Beeswax/dp/B000WU6TN0/ref=sr_1_2?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1518577510&sr=1-2&nodeID=7147441011&psd=1&keywords=clarks%2Bchukkas&th=1&psc=1

What does that go with/how comfortable are they to walk around in -- say, walk around a big city for 5-6 hours?

I like the blazer but am not really sure about the shoes, they are as you said a bit busy and that type of shoes with elastic fastenings tends to look a little lazy. They are also synthetic leather, and will get hot and sweaty really fast. Real leather breathes more and will look better in the long run. Maybe a pair of bucks of a pair of CDBs (clark desert boots)? They are more expensive but will last a lot longer than plastic leather boots and are quite frequently recommended here on MFA.

Edit: Amazon links:

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Boot/dp/B0007MCUTK/ref=cts_sh_1_fbt

http://www.amazon.com/Bass-Mens-Pasadena-Oxford-Taupe/dp/B009PMANDS/ref=sr_1_3?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1419175756&sr=1-3&keywords=bass+buck

These Cole Haan Air Everett slip on shoes?

I'm thinking of using for casual to semi formal. I have super shiny Cole Haan Air Garrett shoes for more formal occasions and Clark's Desert Boots in Dark Brown Suede to cover my brown needs.

I was like you -- I only wore my running shoes or my birks for a long time. About a year or two ago, I got a pair of Clark's Desert Boot (src) at my friend's recommendation. Now, I wear them almost every day.

I went with the Beeswax Leather option: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WU8SBQ

In my opinion they are the perfect day-to-day shoe. I wear them with jeans and a tee, or chinos and a dress shirt, or anything else. If I'm not wearing a suit, I wear them.

Edit: You'll see them a lot on this subreddit... In the first 5 posts I clicked from this week's fit-check thread, two people were wearing them in their pictures.

If you're getting into smart-casual, then some casual boots would do quite well. Clarks Desert Boots in beeswax are often recommended due to their versatility and their semi-casual look. Not as casual as sneakers, but not as formal as dress shoes. They'd go nicely with your current pant selection, except for the black jeans. You'll just want to wear your black trainers with those, since black and brown don't usually go well together.

Hi, I'm planning on getting a very classic pair of Clarks from:
http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Desert-Taupe-Suede/dp/B000VWDZHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328190823&sr=8-1
I want to get the first color: Taupe Suede
Is that color a good choice, and would it be an acceptable item to wear in high school?
Just wondering how would you wear jeans with it? tuck it into, or hanging over or cuffed?
Also, how do you cuff your jeans?
Sorry, I'm a beginner at this.

Alternatively, if you're looking for something to wear casually and not specifically for exercise, you might want to consider investing in a pair of brown leather chukkas if you don't have some already. My Clarks Desert Boots (beeswax) are easily the most versatile shoe I own, and I get a lot of compliments on them.

Nothing surprising about that.

I'd also suggest checking out Dappered and Primer Magazine. Both are very well run men's fashion blogs that focus on affordable clothing.

One thing that you'll find is that even guys looking for "affordable" clothing do not skimp on shoes. Shoes are an investment. $50 for a pair of vans are fine, but when you're talking about nice leather shoes/boots, you're going to spend some money. A $250 pair of shoes will be intimidating, but if you take care of those shoes they will last you a decade+. A $100 pair of shoes will be done in 6-12 months depending on how much you wear them.

For a college guy I'd suggest you get a pair of:

> Clark's Desert Boots in Taupe Suede.

> A pair of canvas sneakers in a color that's not too crazy. I like these.

> And a pair of Johnston Murphy wingtips. These are an affordable pair of shoes that can be used in a semi-formal environment and dressed down with jeans.

They're just regular Clarks Desert Boots in Beeswax as often get recommended here. I love them. Here's a link.

-wear them with any kind of long pants. Good chukkas fit everything from biz caz to caz caz.

-I'll break down some options:

cheap tier: sigh Clark's Desert Boots in Beeswax, $120

mid tier: Cole Haan Winter Colton Chukka Boot, $228

expensive tier: Red Wing Heritage Men's Beckman Chukka, $320

Dressy but casual, eh? I believe they call those "grown-up" shoes or "not-sneakers."

Here are some examples. Ignore the prices, you can find cheaper alternatives to these almost anywhere if you wish. These are just style examples.

• Clarks Desert Boots Try these in beeswax. They are the ole MFA standby.
  
• Bucks
  
• Red Wing Iron Rangers
  
  There are dozens of other options too. I recommend reading the sidebar.

Two weeks ago Katahdins went for $168. There might be another sale in a couple weeks if you are willing to wait. No guarantee it will be 20% off, though.

You like the Earthkeepers which are chukka boots and a lot different from the Boyd boots you love. The option for these would be Clark Desert Boots. I wouldn't pay regular price, and they can get down to the $80 range pretty regularly.

Options for NOW would be Thorogoods 1 or 2 from Amazon with the 20% off shoe email coupon or Chippewa's.

You can also get Iron Rangers on sale if you wait patiently. They'll never reach your budget though but they are quality. Toe box is a little big.

You can find more options if you search for boots on FMF. This topic comes up regularly so you might find more opinions. I suggested the more frequent ones, though.

http://i.imgur.com/WzhgECP


Jacket: Kane and Unke Nylon Tone on Tone Jacket




Shirt: Wallin & Bros. 'Workwear' Trim Fit Chambray Sport Shirt




Pants: American Eagle Slim Straight Cargo Pants (couldn't find it online)



Boots: Clarks Original Desert Boots - Beeswax

clark's desert boots link since you don't know what they are: http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WU8SBG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377563207&sr=8-1&keywords=clarks+desert+boot+men

check out sebago docksides, on amazon they are arguably better than Sperry, and these can be had as low as about $35 if you sign up for the amazon shoe discount. http://www.amazon.com/Sebago-Mens-Docksides-Boat-Yellow/dp/B009NBRML2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1377563237&sr=8-3&keywords=sebago+docksides+men

That leaves about $200. Are you talking nicer places or are you concerned with PBR stains on your shoes?

If you think those are funny looking, you should run away now. Compared to what I've seen recommended in this subreddit, those Red Wings have a very "generic" look to them. I don't mean that as a bad thing, a better word might be "standard" or "conservative." It looks like an alternative would be the always suggested Clarks Desert Boot.

I bought this sportscoat, v-neck and denim at J. Crew.
Pic. Is this good for an evening party ?
I am also thinking of buying these shoes. Do you recommend any other shoes that goes with this outfit ?

Whats stopping you from getting those boots then? Price? Sole? something else? CDBs in beeswax are the obvious suggestion. check out this awesome writeup by /u/root33r

Original : http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WU4T0A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377026561&sr=8-1&keywords=clarks+originals+men's+desert+boot

Bushacre : http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-82286-CLARKS-BUSHACRE-2/dp/B004CJZJ24/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1377026576&sr=8-3&keywords=clarks+bushacre+2

Also you may want to size down by 0.5 or 1 if you wear vans authentics size 12 like me

Don't know what size you wear, but generally I watch Amazon for the desert boots...they tend to pop up for $40-50 frequently with free shipping.

I bought these recently. Today is my first day wearing them and I have a good feeling about them. I have had both bad and good experiences with Johnston Murphy before and I feel like this is a good pair.

Redwings will do you good. The chunk heel seems to be the most popular for casual use. I also like Clark's desert boots, which are a similar style but not quite as boot-y. I wear mine everyday.

If you want something that goes with black and blue jeans, I would say grey is your best option. Depending on how casual you want to go, I'd recommend vans, CDBs, oxfords, or whatever else might strike your fancy in that color.

If you're careful, something white, black, or oxblood could also work as well, but the oxblood (if it's too close to brown) and the black might not go well with blue, while the white might have too much contrast with the black.

Two questions:

• What's the difference between D and M in shoe sizes, in particualr whats the differnece here: http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Boot/dp/B0007MCUTK
  
  
• Second I've been buying shoes too large my entire life, I just measured and my foot is just under 10.5 inches, which means I should be a 9.5 or 10. What would be the best size to order a pair of CDBs in?

I's love a pair of these stylish MFA essential [boots] (http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WUAP9E/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3CASBSI5280M1&coliid=IIYB0VG22QR1G&psc=1)

I think your best bet is a Red Wing chukka with a lightweight foam sole

Definitely agree with this. I'll just add a list of specific places you could start your search with.

Shirts:

Gap Modern Oxfords - My personal preference

Uniqlo Slim Oxfords - Highly rated on this sub and affordable


Chinos:

Dockers Alpha slim tapered cut - Try New British Khaki, Dark Pebble, and Gravel

Gap Lived in Slim Chinos

Chukkas

Clarks Desert Boots

J Crew Mcallisters

Red Wing Work Chuckkas

Amazon has some pretty large discounts on them here

i would not recommend wearing those with a suit. i would look at something like this or this instead due to leather (you don't want something that's shiny like that, and you want closed lacing with a suit)

Looking to buy two pairs of shoes...which fits the bill for a college student to wear casually with jeans?

Thinking of the classic beeswax clark db's
and maybe some oxford's like these?

These. MFA loves these and wants to have their children.

Coming in right around ~$350

White sneakers (leather preferred, canvas optional)
Converse Chuck Taylor II low - ~$50
or adidas Stan Smith's - ~$50
Leather desert boots
Clarks Bushacre 2 - ~$50
Slim/tapered dark wash jeans
AE Extreme Flex Slim Dark Jeans - $24
Khaki and olive chinos
Target Goodfellow Slim Fit Khaki Chinos - $23
Target Goodfellow Slim Fit Olive Chinos - $23
Pair of shorts
Target Goodfellow Blue Chino Shorts - $19
White + black tees
Can grab Kirkland at $3-5 per tee, call it 10 pair total (5 black, 5 white) at $4 avg. - $40
White and light blue OCBD
White + Light Blue OCBD from UNIQLO $19.90 x2 - $39.80
Sweater of your choice color
J Crew Harbor Cotton Crewneck Sweater in Heather Grey - $24.50
Bomber/harrington jacket
Gap Black Bomber Jacket $52.99

Viola! You've got the basic bastard look for $350. Kinda crazy looking at it - over 40% of the cost is made up by the two pairs of shoes and the bomber jacket so if you're able to find deals or steals on any of those things then that would likely save you the most money.

Actually, to be fair - taxes and shipping aren't included on a lot of these purchases so that's something to be mindful of... something else to be mindful of would be that not all of these items are on sales. Sales can bring these prices, or the price of competitors similar items markedly down.

What do people think of the Johnston and Murphy Melton? The black is $123 on amazon and with the 20% off shoes it dips barely below $100. Good year welted too.

http://www.amazon.com/Johnston-Murphy-Melton-Oxford-Black/dp/B000UUEPU6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2B70SJJMWPAYH&coliid=I34RMKK4EQSYVZ&psc=1

Sorry, what I meant was order them online from a US website. Here they're pretty cheap on amazon, and there's going to a sale at some point bringing them down to $60, guaranteed.

Clarks desert boots There's also cheaper clarks that have leather soles. (the sole doesn't get as dirty as the crepe sole)

Or if you want a bit nicer quality:

I just got a pair of these:

https://huckberry.com/store/astorflex/category/p/55222-greenflex-nubuck-exclusive

Brown goes with any color of chinos and doesn't look bad with jeans if they're more tapered at the ankle

Depends on where you live though too. These might not be the best for a winter area.

Nope, they're totally stock except for the mink oil. They're actually cheaper than CDBs too.

Shoe link

Mink oil link

To apply the mink oil I used a blow dryer to heat it up/essentially liquefy it, then used the blow dryer on the shoes to open the pores in the leather. Apply with a soft cloth, wait 15 minutes or so to soak in, then wipe off the excess. Let them dry overnight then you're good!

It would be a lot easier if we knew your budget, but the go to on MFA for chukkas is going to be Clarks Desert Boots. But every major boot maker has a pair of chukkas as well.

Steve Madden Hamilten Chukkas. 60 bucks, perfect for my tight budget. I need a new pair of nice tan-colored shoes to go with my navy blue slims.

EDIT: On second thought I might go with the Bushacres instead. $70.

EDIT2: Fuck it. CDBs it is. $100.

I mean, this is a pretty radical opinion here than I'm sure no one else has ever voiced, but there are these shoes called "Clark Desert Boots" that are kinda nifty:

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WU8SBG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346872697&sr=8-1&keywords=clark+desert+boots

In size 14!

I'm looking for my first pair of brown leather boots. I've seen a ton of recommendations since I've started reading MFA just over a week ago, but am having trouble pulling the trigger. I'm looking for something versatile... Something that looks nice, but keeping the tough look about them. I'm mostly looking to pair with raw denim and button downs, or v-necks.

Here are the few I've narrowed the search down to:

To Boot Kilburn in Koala

Redwing 6" Moc - Copper Rough

Redwing Iron Rangers - Hawthorne

Clark Desert Boot in Beeswax

Any help to sway my decision?

oh thanks!! how would the dark brown ones look
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DCSYWW here they are