Reddit mentions: The best camping & hiking hydration canteens

1. Tent: Eagles Peak II Two person tent - http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=50802926
   -This was generous gift from my SO's mom. It may not be the best tent out there, but at free it can't be beat.
   
   
2. Sleeping Bag: Marmot Aspen Minimalist 40 - http://www.trailspace.com/gear/marmot/aspen-40-ultralight/
   -Got this for its small size and light weight. Future winter camping trips are a possibility, in which case I plan on snagging a wool blanket of sleeping bag liner.
   
   
3. Sleeping Pad: RidgeRest Classic - http://www.amazon.com/Therm-A-Rest-6433-Parent-RidgeRest-Classic-Mattress/dp/B00HZ13OYG
   -Simple basic sleeping pad, I've been using these since scouts and have wanted for nothing more, especially because of its light weight.
   -In the event of winter camping, is this enough to insulate from the ground? If not, what could be added to my sleep system to keep me insulated from the ground?
   
   
4. Cookware: Pot Pan stackable combo - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FQZEYWE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
   -Lightweight and simple, these were cheap and seemed straight forward.
   -They stack with the majority of either piece's empty space facing each other, allowing for decently dry storage for matches etc. inside.
   -Comes with a tight fitting mesh ditty bag
   
   
5. Small Camp Grill - Coghlan's Camp Grill - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OPHA0S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Another straight forward and cheap piece,
   -This is really an optional piece, I plan on bringing it along on trips with big groups or when cooking meat is in the cards.
   
   
6. Plates x2: Coleman Enamel plates - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009PUSPI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -These are the camping gold standard in my book, been using them since scouts.
   
   
7. Stuff Sacks x3: REI pack of 3 Ditty Sacks 2, 3, and 7 liter. -http://www.rei.com/product/795047/rei-ditty-sack-package-of-3
   -Came in a decently affordable combo pack, plan on using them for food/toiletries storage and bear bags.
   
   
8. Knife: Morakniv Companion Straight Knife - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Love this little knife, cheap but durable and was a shaver straight out of the box.
   -Came with a super thick plastic sheath
   
   9)Hatchet: Estwing Hatchet - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Heard this was a classic, people say they've still got the one's their grandfather's used. It's heavy, but I'm happy with the tradeoff.
   -Got it sharpened well enough to cleanly slice through paper at the moment
   
   
9. Axe Sharpener: Lansky Dual Grit Sharpener - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8FW0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
   -Great sharpener, pretty much the go to field sharpener from what I've gathered.
   -Only took a couple minutes to learn how to use, the only hard part is consistently following the bevel through each stroke, but it gets easier.
   
   
10. Camp Towels x2: Microfiber quick-drying towels - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8FW0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
    -Very great, medium size towels with their own tote
    
    
11. Collapsible Water Jug: REI 2.5 gallon collapsible water jug - http://www.rei.com/product/402099/reliance-fold-a-carrier-water-carrier-25-gal
    -Seems great, picked it up at REI physical store then read reviews and got spooked, we'll see though, a minority of the reviewers swear by it.
    -Just in case it sucks, any suggestions for a collapsible water container of equal size/price?
    
    
12. Water Bags x2: 33 oz Bag style canteens - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010OLZ3E2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
    -These came free with my water filter, and they have many good reviews. If they do well, I may buy some extras.
    
    
13. Wine Skin: 2L - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CN4RN42?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
    -More showing of my primitivist ass, and I thought I could take some weight off of my SO by carrying enough water for the two of us.
    
    
14. Pillows x2: Field and Stream - http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=33581126
    -Got these a long time ago when I knew less, they are pretty bulky and my first item I want to replace
    
    
15. Pack: Kelty Redwing 50L Black
    -SO's mom gifted this this Christmas, so amazing and thoughtful, one of the best gifts I've ever gotten and I love the color
    
    
16. Shoes: Skechers Trail Runners - I found these at the thrift store for a stunning 12 bucks and they fit perfectly
    
    
17. Lighting: Outlite Lantern -http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01178FLM0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
    -Pack of flashlights (might not bring all four) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V639BNC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01
    
    
18. Extras: Tarp as groundcloth, some extra stakes.
    
    Items not shown:
    -Always a tin or bag of Drum Tobacco and papers
    -Kindle, old generation one
    -Collapsible trowel
    -Paracord
    -Burlap shoulder bag for gathering kindling etc
    
    Items still wanted (suggestions greatly appreciated):
    -Knife for SO
    -Work gloves
    -Plastic flasks for booze
    -Belt pouch
    -Higher quality tarp
    -Knife Sharpener
    -Sleeping bag liner or wool blanket
    -Any food suggestions!
    -Rain cover for pack
    -Smell proof food bags
    
    I don't have much experience outside of scouts, so I'm very open to critique of my setup. I will warn that I am very much into primitivism, and camping for me is a gateway to a backcountry, esthetic lifestyle I one day I hope to live, so some of my gear choices may not always be the most efficient. Any advice from a primitivist or purist standpoint is doubly appreciated.
    
    

Round two? Awesome! :)

You're right, that's quite a bit of space to give up every day. I'd definitely think hard about some of the items:

Do you really need the jack stand? If you're not going to be underneath the vehicle, I'd say no. You should not be underneath the vehicle. If you decide you do need it, then why not two? They'll nest pretty good (especially if you zip tie them together) and not take up too much more space.

Same thing with the jack. If your stock screw jack is that bad, consider replacing it with a suitably rated hydraulic bottle jack instead – at about 1/4 the space required. I'd probably carry an easily stowed 8"x8" piece of plywood to improve stability, which might solve the problems with the stock jack anyway.

Continuing the theme, think carefully about the full socket / wrench set. How skilled are you really, and what repairs are you planning to take on? Even if you decide it's something you really want, there are probably 3 or 4 sizes of bolt on your vehicle – you can probably build a custom kit in 1/10 the space.

You have no road triangles to set up while you're doing all this repair work? That's expecting people to see your vest before it's too late. Bad idea. Some flares (even LEDs) wouldn't be a bad thing either. Personally, I keep my safety vest inside the vehicle, not in the cargo area I won't be able to get to easily. Probably the most dangerous time you'll face is exiting your vehicle – especially in dark / bad weather situations. Having it easily accessible is worthwhile.

The lug wrench is also pretty unwieldy for something you don't plan to use frequently. If the stock one doesn't give you enough leverage, throw in a 24" cheater bar – which way easier to carry. You've already got a breaker though. If you're stubborn, a collapsible one instead. Torque wrench? That's pretty serious overkill.

Consider losing the gas can. The first time you use it means a lot of work to completely remove all remaining fuel so you don't torture your lungs every time you drive afterward. I've got a collapsible plastic water bladder I know isn't strictly legal or "a good idea" to use for fuel – but it'll work in an emergency. Toss it in the trash without much guilt. It'll work for water too of course.

Don't see a 12V jumper box, or jumper cables. Preferably both. Especially in electronics-heavy modern vehicles, electrics are the most common failure after tires. Also don't see a tow strap, which can be super helpful (certainly better than nothing) if you're stuck and a kind stranger happens by without any recovery gear.

As far as storage, I'd definitely lose those corrugated Amazon monstrosities – they'll probably disintegrate in a year or so from heat and moisture. (I guess you'll always have easy replacements) A single plastic bin that's taller would let you use vertical space better. But it'll also be "tippy" so you'll want to secure it somehow. I like having multiple "soft" bags. Their deformability makes packing items in easier, and also packing other stuff around the bag in the trunk easier.

Can't wait to see round three!

The thing with bug out bags is first figuring out where you're going to bug out to and how you're going to get there. Do you have relatives that live 100 miles away? If so can you walk there if your car is unusable? I'm still struggling with this as my family is in the exact opposite direction of where I'd want to bug out to in a disaster/ SHTF situation.

Unfortunately, BOB's can get pretty expensive quickly - I picked my bag and contents for an indefinite bug out so naturally I ended up spending a good amount of $ on it - BUT spaced out purchases throughout many months as I also didn't have the money to be spending all at once.

Anyway, if you want to keep it under $50, I'd suggest looking for second hand bags....even for a halfway decent one, this can bring your budget to at least half that. Ideally, you'll want one with an internal frame and a belt strap. This will keep the weight off your shoulders and distributed evenly throughout - this is especially important if you plan on walking a bunch of miles. If you're not planning on walking far, then this isn't much of an issue but to me, bugging out assumes some walking involved.

Following the survival rule of 3's, the first item you'll need to address is some sort of shelter. Get some 550 paracord and a decent tarp. This shouldn't cost too much and you can make a quick & easy A frame type shelter. Even a few heavy duty trash bags could go a long way (ie solar shower, solar still).

I'd def get at least a light summer sleeping bag unless you feel ok sleeping on a bundle of pine sprigs. Do you have decent hiking boots and wool socks ready to go? I see a lot of bug out bags skimping on this but to me is one of the most important things to have.

Can you start a fire with the fire striker you have? How about if the ground is wet? Not saying you need to get one of these but also not sure if you would be able to process wood with a leatherman.

Next is water. Do you have a cup/ canteen to hold/ boil water in? If you're on the run, get something like this. But if you have time to boil any stagnant water, the canteen with cup linked above is a good idea to have.

For food, yeah protein bars, cans of tuna are cheap and good to have. I got a few of these. But they actually get kinda heavy quick (3 days worth of food in one block). For longer term, I'm currently looking into a decent fishing rod and setting snares.

Hope this helps! If you want to spend a bit more $ I can share with you some of the other contents I have..

It's hard to take sites seriously that earn affiliate commissions on the products they recommend, but it's not a horrible list. But "best" is individual, based on your needs & preferences. If you were to buy their items and use them regularly in mock emergencies, you will eventually swap out certain items with others. For example, i found their Datrex water pouches leak when stored in a backpack. So i switched to round water bottles like they recommend, but found that rectangular bottles like this are a more efficient use of space. Your supplies can and should evolve over time.

Btw, it's nice that they mentioned CERT. CERT classes are free and are taught by first responders, so try to take the classes to see what they recommend.

Basically you got a kit that is a GearWhores dream, what you don't have is a kit that will keep you alive for more than a few days.

1. I want you to pile up all this shit you call a kit on Floor
   
2. Place an empty box on your bed and put the following in it:
   A) the ability to clean and carry water.
   B) the ability to make fire.
   C) shelter to keep dry/warm (a simple poncho and Mylar Blankets at first)
   
   At this point you could live for a couple weeks, and you've spent $40+ cost of pack
   
   D) food, start with compact shelf stable foods, like the dry emergency rations or these.
   A couple weeks worth is like $20, now if you ration you could live for over a month.
   
   3)Now throw away everything else left on the floor.
   As the other person pointed out you have 60+ pounds of junk. That fact is a kit to keep you alive for over a month should cost $60 and fit in a shoe box.

For short runs (assuming shorter since you're just getting started), a handheld is usually plenty. I recommend something like a Nathan SpeedMax. For sure one with a hand strap and a compartment for phone, keys, etc. There are lots of other brands with similar options - mostly comes down to preference. I have a Nathan and it's treated me well. They come in several sizes depending on how much water you need. Consider heat, humidity, distance, etc. when you're shopping. Good luck on your journey in running!

There was a guide on what to do if you get your snowmobile stuck, I can't find it but that may be useful (look for it in this subreddit).

Here's a few helpful things to get, in this order:

Water canteens

Thermal blanket

High protein food (like Nature Valley Peanut Granola bar, nuts, etc.)

Warm clothes, maybe a jacket, sleeping bag, etc.

Snow shovel

Tire chains

Battery backup for your phone

Definitely stay with the car, someone might come along and be of help (maybe not though). Don't leave work or home without a fully charged phone and battery backup. It doesn't seem like you'll be there very long, so don't worry too much, but if you are going to be there more than 24 hours, make a shelter with the solar/thermal blanket and your car doors, and make a fire if you can... might be useful to carry some fire starters and a hatchet.

I have used these for traveling. The 10L worked great and fit in the 20L Rucker with 3L water bladder for a hike in the mountains. There was not much room left with the 10L if you plan to carry other items. Great thing is on a long hike on a hot day you have extra water.

https://www.amazon.com/Collapsible-Container-Freezable-Plastic-Mountaineer/dp/B073PS1HY7/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=collapsible+water+cube&qid=1573259852&sr=8-6

Certainly, in a 1-quart aluminum BSA canteen, slung over one shoulder inside its canvas bag and strap. You wet the bag down to keep the water cooler. Something like this, weighing about a half pound empty.

Granted, this was a long time ago. But it seems like yesterday to me. Still managed to have a wonderful time, too.

I also just ordered one of these. I think the flat shape will help it fit better in my bag than a normal water bottle. I freelance, so I need to be able to carry everything I need with me since I might only be working at a specific job for a few days at a time.

My favorite running gear below. If she doesn't have anything from the categories, these might be worth your consideration.

• $60 - Plantronics BackBeat FIT 2100 Wireless Headphones
  
• $300-350 - Garmin Forerunner 245 Music
  
• $20 - Spibelt
  
• $35 - Nathan SpeedMax Plus Handheld Flask

Absolutely! While they don’t make the specific one I own anymore, gotta love old stuff that still works, this is comparable:

5 Gallon/20L Collapsible Water Container BPA Free FDA Approved PE Portable Water Carrier Bag Water Outdoor Storage For BBQ Camping Hiking Climbing Fishing Picnic Emergency https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0776W7JM5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_VwVKBbBSZ44DS

What size Rucker?

The Rucker capacity is measured in liters. In the beautiful consistent logic of the Metric system, 1 liter of water = 1 kg (2.2 lbs).

So, the smallest 15 liter Rucker should be able to hold around 30 pounds (15l x 2.2 lbs. = 33 lbs., but that's under ideal jug form factor conditions).

However, that particular bladder holds only 20 pounds. You can get smaller bottles to add weight.

When I was in, my standard ALICE load out consisted of:

1 Pistol belt

1 Set suspenders

4 Ammo pouches

2 First aid pouches (1 for compass, 1 for trauma pad)

2 Canteen pouches, canteens, and canteen cup

1 Butt Pack

1 M9 bayonet


And the pack:

1 Large ALICE Pack and frame.

1 E-Tool and cover attached to pack.

2 2 Qt Canteens and cover

We also carried a shit load of other field gear like sleeping bags and pad, NBC gear, Pro-mask, magazines, etc. but the LBE was a pretty simple setup.

CO's and very rarely the M60 (and later M240B) machine gunners, were usually the only ones that had pistol holsters

(Ignore all ACU, everything is OD green or GTFO)

Most of this stuff you can find obscenely cheap at army surplus stores.

Something like this?

I have one and it fit my tablet and everything when I was traveling. I did use a collapsible water bottle when I traveled.

I actually use that exact Klean Kanteen you linked, but I was suggesting something more like this. Provides a water container and nested cook set.

Sawyer Squeeze + Evernew Bladder

1. Relatively light, not the lightest option on the market
   
2. Very durable and reliable. Backflush in the field for renewed life.
   
3. 1 or 2 hikers only, not groups
   
4. Relatively fast, not instant
   
   https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP129-Filtration-Squeezable/dp/B00B1OSU4W
   
   https://www.amazon.com/EVERNEW-Water-Carry-System-2000ml/dp/B000AQYY5Q
   
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   As you see - there are always trade-offs for every gear choice. It all depends on your needs. The big categories tend to be chemicals (like AquaMira), filters (like Sawyer Squeeze/Mini or Katadyn BeFree), and UV (like SteriPen). Group requirements end up being a separate category - which gravity setups are peopular for (like Platypus GravityWorks).
   
   

• https://www.amazon.com/Aquamira-Chlorine-Dioxide-Treatment-Bottles/dp/B000OR111G
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Membrane-Endurance-Camping-Backpacking/dp/B075X5R67T
  
• https://www.amazon.com/SteriPen-Adventurer-Backpacking-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B00M3SOJIG
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Platypus-GravityWorks-High-Capacity-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B00G4V4IVQ
  
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  Is there a reason you are filtering on car camping trips? Is bringing in your water in jugs not an option? Is there no potable water source at your site? I have 2, collapsible and rigid, water containers that I use for car camping that I recommend. Might save the life of your filters.
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Jumbo-Tainer-Gallon-Container/dp/B000GKDFH4
  
• https://www.amazon.com/WaterStorageCube-Collapsible-Container-Hurricane-Emergency/dp/B07FVJLYZ4

I like to have a simple army canteen set with a canteen cup so I have a way to both store and boil water. If I want to travel light I wear my Lifestraw around my neck.

This may or may not be feasible, but I'm picturing a set-up where you construct a portable lap pad out of a collapsible water bottle and a nice fabric covering. Then you could carry it around empty, and fill it up when you need it. Only limitation would be finding a water source. A 5L one like this would weigh just over 10 lbs when full.

http://www.rangerjoes.com/Canteen-Straw-Hydration-System-P696.aspx

https://www.amazon.com/Rothco-602-Canteen-Straw-Kit/dp/B001DKY1KG

took .015 seconds of googling.

hope your field expedient enema goes according to plan.

>l back from now on

you can buy new ones on amazon for cheap, stick the issue ones in your locker for turn in and buy your own.

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One with gasmask thing: https://www.amazon.com/Canteen-1-Quart-Issue-8465-01-115-0026-Green/dp/B009RV04CW/ref=sr_1_7?crid=85CPT207CUE9&keywords=army+canteen&qid=1554748348&s=gateway&sprefix=army+can%2Caps%2C163&sr=8-7

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One without: https://www.amazon.com/Military-Outdoor-Clothing-Issued-Canteen/dp/B00DCS5GF6/ref=sr_1_5?crid=85CPT207CUE9&keywords=army%2Bcanteen&qid=1554748388&s=gateway&sprefix=army%2Bcan%2Caps%2C163&sr=8-5&th=1&psc=1

That type of bottle is Aladdin's "Aveo Water Bottle". It's still made but I didn't see that exact floral pattern. This one has a similar pattern and there are other designs as well.

2 things for the sawyer setup.

1. That is not a very efficient way to fill the bag with water. You need to drag the bag through the water horizontally at a fast speed to fill it, not just lay it there still.
   
   
2. The stock sawyer mini bags are not good as they are kinda small in volume. I like switching those out for a 1 liter bag instead like these. https://www.amazon.com/Survivor-Filter-Collapsible-Canteens-Total/dp/B010OLZ3E2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1500301895&sr=8-3&keywords=survivor+filter

https://www.amazon.com/Rothco-Piece-Quart-Canteen-Aluminum/dp/B00598KU7Q/ref=sr_1_4?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1474217933&sr=1-4&keywords=canteen

this one is cheap and works just fine.

UK link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GNR2MG6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3OFXDbKCMMBT7

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0776W7JM5/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExTjhXN1dISDAxWDJWJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODEwNzY1MzVYNjlWUjBLRTNPSCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjM1MjQ2SVRJTDJHQUlCSjcxJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0

Same one my dad had. Black or OD, but black costs $11 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00598KU7Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1411095717&sr=1-2