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> She was not a vegan/vegetarian!

*Ahem* From her own "about" page:

>>Tara's Affiliations Include

>> Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics

>> Greater New York Dietetic Association

>> Chinese Americans in Nutrition and Dietetics (2015 award winner)

>> Nutrition Entrepreneurs DPG (2016 award winner, current PR/Marketing Coordinator)

>>* Weight Management DPG

Gee, I wonder what those "affiliate" organizations she was a member of promote for diets...

Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics

• Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics Greenlights Veganism
  The largest organization of healthcare professionals in the country officially deemed the vegan diet best for health and the environment.
  
  What's more, their official site heavily promotes vegetarianism AND veganism, even for infants and small children.
  
  
• https://www.eatright.org/food/nutrition/vegetarian-and-special-diets/vegetarianism-the-basic-facts
  
  
• https://www.eatright.org/food/nutrition/vegetarian-and-special-diets/feeding-vegetarian-and-vegan-infants-and-toddlers
  
  Their basic "Dietary Guidelines" are the generic government promoted "MyPlate" -- which is essentially a vegetarian/vegan (and heavily ANTI-meat, ANTI-animal food) -- a sightly updated version of the abysmal "food pyramid" that was POLITICALLY crafted back in the mid 1970's, and which are the ROOT cause of the vast majority of America's present obesity, chronic gastrointestinal, and chronic mental illnesses.
  
  This is the shit diet she was trained in, and it was the shit diet she SOLD, and the shit diet that she ate.
  
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  >She ate meat and delicious healthy foods that she also recommended to her patients, myself included.
  
  Ayah, she may very well have eaten a trivial portion of "meat" (or more likely faux-meat) things in trendy-foodie meals; unfortunately that isn't sufficient to offset the manifold health problems that come from eating a high-carb crap food diet.
  
  Add on that -- depending on what supplements she was taking and what medications -- OTC as well as prescription -- that she was on (and given the present era, the pervasive use of such medications in our society -- especially amount women of her general age range -- combined with her own statements of a DECADE of mental health problems, and her professional states... I would be GREATLY surprised if she wasn't on several different such medications: psychoactive as well as "gastrointestinal" issues) those same medications & supplements almost certainly INHIBITED or blocked the uptake of several critical things that animal food products contain, not the least of which being B12 (which is NOT a single compound, but rather a very complex array of chemically related compounds) as well as IF (aka "intrinsic factor").
  
  Her occasional eating of small amounts of meat -- especially when prepared in various "trendy/foodie" restaurant meal form -- was almost certainly abysmally insufficient to overcome the gradual and steady depletion of critical things from her body; and nowhere NEAR sufficient to help her recover from what was apparently multiple-decades of an inadequate/problematic diet.
  
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  Oh and in terms of the whole "delicious" -- candy-like coatings & sauces, and overspiced foods -- are NOT the same as "healthy" eating.
  
   
  
  As for yourself: Aye and what were & are your problems?
  
  
• Obesity and/or Diabetes, binge & purge, trouble maintaining a healthy weight?
  
• Probably a variety of chronic gastrointestinal issues (acid reflux, IBS, bouncing back and forth from constipation to diarrhea, etc)?
  
• Chronic mental health issues... mood swings? Shallow affect?
  
  What supplements are you taking? How many different prescription medications -- including mental health as well as ones to deal with your digestion & other physical issues -- are you taking on a regular and/or intermittent basis?
  
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  >She was a great nutritionist and a very pleasant, sweet, beautiful person in real life.
  
  She put on a false front. From her "good bye" (or "see you later") pre-suicide note:
  
  >>"I truly have a great life *on paper.***"
  
  Implication: but not in reality.
  
  >>"However, all these facets seem trivial to me. It’s the ultimate first world problem, I get it. I often **felt detached while in a room full of my favorite people; I also felt absolutely nothing during what should have been the happiest and darkest times in my life."
  
  Moreover this was not some temporary or RECENT thing... she began that "good bye" note with the following:
  
  >>"I have written this note several times in my head for over a decade, and this one finally feels right. No edits, no overthinking. I have accepted hope is nothing more than delayed disappointment, and *I am just plain old-fashioned tired of feeling tired.***"
  
  OVER A DECADE... since she was now a mere 27, that means since she was at least 17, 16 possibly younger.
  
  Given her statement on her about page that her father was a "foodie" -- I'm inclined to believe that she very likely NEVER ate a healthy diet a day in her life; from childhood onward -- and as she never KNEW what an actually "healthy" diet or a healthy "life" (mentally as well as physically healthy); well she had no way of knowing that what she was taught, what she learned to regurgitate and teach others in turn... was anything & everything BUT a healthy diet.
  
  NO matter how many "official" -- or quasi-official, "professional" and so called "expert" -- stamps of approval get placed on such.
  
  Labels are just labels.
  
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  >How dare you people writing this about her not knowing her in person?!
  
  Well she killed herself; and as noted above, she was apparently never REAL with anyone in her life -- whatever emotions she showed were (per her own words) hollow and fake... NOT actually "felt" inside.
  
  Plain fact or the matter is that you actually didn't know her at all.
  
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  That's SAD.
  
  What would be SADDER still... would be to DENY the very problems that caused her to needlessly suffer so much, and for so long; only to end her own life in such a truly tragic manner.
  
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  Save yourself from similar chronic suffering, and a potentially similar sad fate: Could It Be B12?: An Epidemic of Misdiagnoses**
  

First of all, calcium is pretty hard to be deficient in if you’re really eating a whole food AIP diet. Most people get too much and even doctors (who bother to pay attention to updated evidence-based guidelines) don’t recommend calcium supplements, as they don’t help osteoporosis, unless there is evidence of a legit deficiency. If you’re getting enough vit D you’re absorbing enough calcium.

Vit D lab values should be mid point on a blood test ~50-70, with “normal” levels being between ~30-100, & any Dr that says otherwise is either lazy or ill informed regarding pretty much all research over the last 10 years-always remember “normal” values aren’t even kind of the same as “optimal for best health/healing a broken body” levels. Fun fact: RDA for Vit D was established as amount needed to avoid rickets. Personally, I’d like to set the bar higher than non-rickets, especially considering how absolutely vital it is in terms of immune system function-regardless of calcium. But I digress...

“Vit K” is really two different things-K1 & K2 and they are not metabolically interchangeable. K1 is from mostly leafy greens and, as you alluded to, is the one that is best known for assisting with clotting. K2 is ONLY available after K1 has been converted via specialized bacteria and is used by the body (in simplified terms) to put calcium where it’s supposed to go-ie, bones rather than arteries.

Most humans aren’t able to convert K1 to K2 on their own in their own guts (even “healthy” adult guts, as demonstrated in research) and thus almost all K2 is gained through fermented foods like aged cheeses, sauerkraut, etc. One of the many reasons ALL traditional cultures ate fermented foods in one way or another & had great teeth!

Best food source of K2 anywhere is Natto, which is a fermented soy bean & used as a condiment in Asia. As with many Asian flavors/foods, it has a pungent “acquired” taste to it that even most “I love Asian food!” folks can’t bring themselves to gag down. Not only that, but on an AIP diet you’d have to weigh pros of a small exposure to a traditionally prepared soy product vs. just getting it through other types of fermented foods or even a K2 supplement (many D3 supplements now come as a D3/K2 combo formula).

In any case, though I understand your caution regarding Vit K-as blood clots are frequently deadly-the functional difference between K1 & K2 is the reason that your doctor hasn’t warned you off of pickles & aged cheese, like he has with too much spinach and salads, in fear of too much K2 ingestion.

I’d worry less about calcium than I would magnesium. Post is already long enough so I’ll let you research that on your own. More info about K2 can be found either through PubMed (for the deep dive science nerds of us out there who love the soporific effect of reading lengthy alphabet soup microbiology & statistical analysis scientific research) or the book Vitamin K2 & the Calcium Paradox.

Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox: How a Little-Known Vitamin Could Save Your Life https://www.amazon.com/dp/0062320041/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_PtMiDb6G0XEJD

A couple of things you need to know about Vitamin C

1. "Vitamin C" is L-ascorbic acid most "Vitamin C" that is sold is a 50/50 mix of l-ascorbic acid and r-ascorbic acid your body can't use r-ascrobic acid so you only get to use half of what you bought. Only two brands of "Vitamin C" that I know of are 100% l-ascorbic acid Nutribiotic Vitamin C and Solgar vitamin C
   
   
2. Humans, some fruit bats, a couple of monkey species, and guinea pigs are the only animals on earth that DON'T make their own l-ascorbic acid in either their liver or kidney. Humans have a mutation that prevents us from fulling converting monosaccharides (sugar) into l-ascorbic acid. It's a 5 step process and we do 4 of the steps the mutation prevents us from completing the 5th step.
   
   
3. Every animal that makes l-ascorbic acid makes between 80 and 150 mg of l-ascorbic acid per kg of body weight. In order for your body to function optimally that means if you weight 130 lbs or 59 kg that you should have at the low end (59 kg 80) = 4,720mg of Vitamin C up to as much as (59kg 150) = 8,850 per day. If you are sick your l-ascrobic acid requirements can go up 10 fold!!!!! Monkeys that do make their own l-ascorbic acid when held in cages see their l-ascrobic acid production go up 10 to 20 fold versus when they are not highly stressed.
   
   Now to address the studies
   Most of these studies are done using low and ineffective amounts of "Vitamin C" the 50/50 mix usually 500mg to 1000mg is the daily amount tested. When Linus Pauling, the father of modern chemistry and the only 2 time solo nobel prize winner started using Vitamin C to fight colds he was taking 1,000mg of l-ascorbic acid every hour from the time he felt the symptoms until he ended the cold. Doing this he saw a significant reduction in the duration of the cold/flu.
   
   
   Want to learn about "Vitamin C" and what really means to your body, not the non-sense spewed out by pharmaceutical shills? Check out this book Ascorbate
   

Aside from a plethora of health benefits, the immediate benefits are skin ripping pumps. It increases blood flow and opens up all of your veins. Feels amazing when you're lifting as well. There's a burn that's way more intense than a Beta Alanine tingle, and I like that shit lol.

But seriously, if you're interested in why you should be taking it as well, there's a great book that goes into detail of what it does for you here:

https://www.amazon.com/Niacin-Story-Wonderful-Healing-Properties/dp/B07FQSX6V2/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=amazon+niacin+book&qid=1564488201&s=gateway&sr=8-2

I highly recommend it!

There are currently some big studies being done on the importance of Vitamin D so you might want to do some google on it.

From what I've read (and I'm no expert) it is more efficient if you take Vitamin D3 and K2 together (you should be able to get pills or a spray with both of these together). It is more efficient to put the pill under your tongue as the body will absorb it better through the saliva glands than it will through the stomach.

Have a read of these two articles from Victoria Health
Vitamin K2
Vitamin D3

There is also a book from a NZ author called Ian Wishart that you might be interested in reading. Remember though, this guy is a journalist not a scientist.

I too have started taking 2000UI a day and can't believe the difference it has made in my mood and motivation.

FWIW, I definitely don't disagree with you in theory. I am just a random guy. And random guys are not often right!

If you think there is a small chance I am right, then I would check out these cheap Kindle books, which are slightly more credible:

This guy is an actual MD who prescribes D3 in the range that I take:

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Vitamin-Scientific-Practical-Information/dp/1508946310

This dude is what got me initially curious, he is a bit of a lunatic (what an endorsement!), but he cites a LOT of papers. After reading this, I read some more books.

https://www.amazon.com/Miraculous-Results-Extremely-Sunshine-Experiment/dp/1491243821

And then this one on K2:

https://www.amazon.com/Vitamin-K2-Calcium-Paradox-Little-Known/dp/0062320041

Also, I have gotten several friends and family members to run the same test in the last year, and all report positive results with healthy D and calcium levels. Again, I'm just a random dude, so YMMV, but I'm obviously a big believer at this point.

Thanks!

So I'm not a doctor, and I don't want to advise you to jump to injecting before talking to someone. But B12 serum tests alone aren't the best diagnostic for every situation. It will show how much B12 is in the blood stream, but it cannot show how well it is being used by the body. So if you're supplementing, it will show there's a lot. And when someone is injecting, the test becomes pretty useless as a diagnostic tool because the person being tested will always show a maxed out testing range. That's why there's a few tests that you would need to do to see the full picture. There's a good book I read this summer. Could It Be B12: An Epidemic of Misdiagnoses. It's easy to follow and understand. You could read an ebook version and make notes to ask your doctor about some other tests you might like to run.

I think the author, Sally M. Pacholok, also has some videos on youtube.

Edited to add: I forgot earlier, but if you want to follow the route most western docs prefer, you would need to go off b12 supplements for 4-6 weeks to go back to a “blank slate.” That would make a blood serum test its most helpful

What type of general medical testing has he had done?

B12 deficiency is pretty easy to miss because the blood test done can be ruined by anything containing folic acid (which is in a lot of "enriched" products), or certain types of seaweed. Also the serum levels have nothing to do with what is usable for the body. There are a lot of things in the body that have to function together to extract b12 from food, convert it from its natural format to a format usable by the body, etc. Some people opt to simply try B12 injections for a few months to see if symptoms improve. Make sure that if you do this you talk to the doctor about any medical conditions that can make B12 injections dangerous- there are a few that I don't recall off the top of my head.

Disclaimer: I am NOT a doctor. I don't know how much of what I've read is wishful thinking and how much of it is true. I just have the experience of going through a lot of grief over something that simply came down to requiring injections of B12.

In my readings I've also read that magnesium deficiency can cause similar issues, but that it is harder to test for. I've also read that Chrons disease and celiac disease can cause similar symptoms, etc.

There's a book on B12 deficiencies and the different things that are common misdiagnoses: http://www.amazon.com/Could-Be-B12-Epidemic-Misdiagnoses/dp/1884956467 keep in mind that again- a lot of it might be wishful thinking and B12 might not be a miracle cure or the answer at all.

The cognitive issues might be related to sleep. If he has sleep apnea his sleep cycles might be wonky and whenever sleep is compromised there are often cognitive issues. Also if he has a lot of seizure activity the post-ictal state is pretty damned fuzzy from what I've heard.

Sleep can sometimes be helped with methylcobalamin (a different form of B12).

I'd be cautious though because 1- I'm NOT a doctor. 2- while I've read that some people with migraines and seizures see improvement with B12 supplements or injections, others apparently have seizures brought on by those things. 3- Doctors that I've talked to range in beliefs about B12 from "it can't possibly cause what you think it causes, it only causes anemia. If you're not anemic you're not deficient". To "It absolutely causes all sorts of things and it's essentially harmless because the body flushes it out so quickly".

Vitamin D is another thing to look into.

The thing is to find a doctor that will talk about these things without either being enthusiastically supportive of the whole thing to the point of dismissing all other ideas, but that will also not outright dismiss it. This is the type of doctor that you can trust to explore things with you without necessarily buying wholesale into every whackadoo theory out there. This type of doctor will also typically be able to come up with other testing or ideas to explore without having a pet diagnosis.

One thing you can do is to make sure your vitamin D levels are sufficient:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4463890/

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2017/02/study-confirms-vitamin-d-protects-against-cold-and-flu/

I take 2000 IU twice a day now. I like this one by Now Foods:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UZPY1O/

I was taking 5000 IU a day for a while, but then I got tested and my blood levels were on the high side of normal, so I dialed it down to 2000 IU once a day and they were on the lower side of normal, so now I'm doing 2000 IU twice a day. The key is to get yourself tested to see what your base level is, then get tested again after supplementing for a while at a particular does, and dial it in from there.

Incidentally it also seems to be a good idea to take Vitamin K2 and calcium if you're taking Vitamin D3. Apparently the D3 tells your body to absorb the calcium, and the K2 tells your body where to put the calcium - i.e. in your bones and teeth rather than deposit it in your arteries. I take this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002N1MW3W/

More info on the K2/D3/calcium link here if you're interested:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062320041/

If you try the niacin, be advised that it's powerful stuff. It will open up your arteries more than anything known to man and the resulting "flush" will scare you to death if you're not prepared mentally.



It feels like a severe sunburn without the pain, if that makes sense, but it will pass within an hour or so, depending on dosage, and completely stop if you keep taking it.



I'm not a doctor and this is not medical advice, just sharing my personal experience anecdotally. That said, there's a book I recommend you read if you're interested in the topic by a physician who treated patients with niacin for more than half a century; it's called "Niacin: The Real Story: Learn about the Wonderful Healing Properties of Niacin"

Besides the D and magnesium you also need enough K2 to make sure the calcium ends up in your bones and not your arteries. You don't say anything about butter but if you're not eating it I recommend adding in some good grass fed butter. It will have good levels of K2 and fits quite well into the average paleo diet.

source

Celiac disease is associated with clubbing, see, e.g., this paper - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3029079/ See also http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11761775 as another example.

The clubbing suggests that you should be thoroughly evaluated for osteoporosis/osteopenia/osteomalacia as well as fat malabsorption and vitamin and mineral deficiencies (e.g., calcium, vitamins D and K2 and other fat soluble vitamins (A and E), B vitamins, etc.).

Note that it is primarily vitamin K2 (menaquinone) - not K1 (phylloquinone) - that is involved in bone formation. This book - http://www.amazon.com/Vitamin-K2-Calcium-Paradox-Little-Known-ebook/dp/B00D5TSMAS/ - does a pretty good job covering the research about that.

They had tough diets back then. Like beef jerky,tough breads, nuts etc.

If you ate hard foods back then your jaw development and teeth were excellent

https://www.amazon.com/Nutrition-Physical-Degeneration-Comparison-Primitive/dp/1849027536

This book explains a soft modern diet changes this.


Proof in the book was a study of one generation of eskimos(i coukd totally be wrong on this but i think that was the group)whose teeth and jaws were excellent with hard food diets

Then examining the teeth and jaws the following generation of eskimos who ate a modern "soft" diet.

Reduced jaws and crooked teeth galore.

its said tongue posture is crucial in mewing amd while i actually believe its true(many remarkable changes in people who done this) there isnt any actual verified study on it

My wife (mid-40s) suffers from strange tingling and numbness in her face, hands, legs ... been happening for years. She's wondering if it could be caused by low B12 (she also has had ulcurative colitis since childhood).

Her serum B12 levels come back as "normal", but she's been reading about something where that test can be deceptive that it doesn't show the amount of B12 that's actually active in your cells ... or something like that, she can describe it better.

There's books on the subject (specifically "Could It Be B12") that suggest an aggressive "B12 shot a day for a week" (or until symptoms subside) and then B12 shot a week, then one a month for life.

Do you have any familiarity with any of this? Thanks!

In regards to Vitamin D (which is actually not a vitamin, but a steroid hormone produced by the skin and liver in response to UV exposure) I would recommend supplementing, as well as checking out this book

I liked this book.

https://www.amazon.com/Could-Be-B12-Epidemic-Misdiagnoses/dp/1884995691

also that chris kesser has done podcasts on the subject I believe. He is a good listen...has been on Joe Rogan's podcast a few times.

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B12 er svært at få, men løses ved at spise en pille. Det er i øvrigt ikke kun veganere som har brug for B12, mange kødspisere får også for lidt, og https://www.amazon.co.uk/Could-B12-An-Epidemic-Misdiagnoses/dp/1884995691 er spændende læsning for alle.

Jeg supplerer min diæt med B-12, carnosine, vitamin D, vitamin A, DHA+EPA og magnesium, det er i øvrigt også anbefalet at kødspisere gør dette.

Meget forskning peger på at de fleste plantespisere får nok og korrekt protein: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/do-vegetarians-get-enough-protein/

Was it kind of like the BarCharts quick reference guides? Like this one?

get this book and then do what it says

http://www.amazon.com/Track-Your-Plaque-prevention-coronary/dp/0595316646/ref=la_B002BLT426_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1452556351&sr=1-7

This Dr. uses advanced imaging technology to track plaque buildup, and has devised a diet and supplement regimen that is scientifically proven to cleanout blood vessels

also get some K2 supplements

http://www.amazon.com/Vitamin-K2-Calcium-Paradox-Little-Known/dp/0062320041/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452556943&sr=8-1&keywords=Kate+Rheaume-bleue

Get Serious explains why weight training is important for older men and contains a weight training program.

https://www.amazon.com/Nutrition-Physical-Degeneration-Comparison-Primitive/dp/1849027536

This book "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" is about this. A lot of the reason for bad teeth among modern diets is what he calls "white" foods. White rice, white potatoes, white flour, white sugar, and food brought by the white man (canned food, fast food, processed food.)

The people eating the traditional pre-colonial diets had great teeth. Near-perfect teeth were the norm, not the exception.

Both books filled with studies to back up their claims.

http://www.amazon.com/Magnesium-Miracle-Carolyn-Dean/dp/034549458X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1289048750&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Could-Be-B12-Epidemic-Misdiagnoses/dp/1884956467/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1289048809&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/Could-Be-B12-Epidemic-Misdiagnoses-ebook/dp/B00MERDLOE

Two books I would recommend:

Good Calories, Bad Calories

Ascorbate: The Science of Vitamin C

You can definitely find the latter online in pdf form, probably the former as well. Both address cancer.

Here: http://www.amazon.com/Could-It-Be-B12-Misdiagnoses/dp/1884995691

This is the book I brouyght that helped me. It does in fact say in that book that even psychosis/manic depression can be a symptom that's why I ask. I displayed manic depressive symptoms but they're weren't quite right. This is why. The B12.

high, consistent megadoses of niacin (vitamin b3) has worked wonders for a few depressed people i know. i am not a doctor, and you should read about this before trying it. here's a book.

> Lose the Cardio

One of the best looking, lowest BF trainers around told me the same thing. He played football 2 times/week or so and it was the only "cardio" he did. He ate fat+protein for the whole day and carbs AFTER lifting, in the evening, contrary to the "common" knowledge. He kept counting calories and ate various foods, including potato chips.

I'm doing pretty much the same thing now. My only "cardio" is going to be biking to work and back (sometimes 5 mins, sometimes 20 mins), some longboard, some rollerblades. Maybe even running outdoors for 20-30 minutes, maybe some HIIT, why not, I like the general feeling it gives me, it is important for the cardiovascular system. I'm not going back to that fucking treadmill, as it burns muscle as well and produces free radicals (source: http://www.amazon.com/Get-Serious-Dr-Brett-Osborn/dp/1940598206 - marathon runners look older because biologically they ARE older).

> Do Compound Lifts

I was very hesitant to even try it because of back problems, but Dr Osborn in the same book suggest that to fix my back problems was to improve my muscle and guess what... I started "real" exercises (deadlifts, squats, bench presses) about a month or so, I actually see a lot of improvement over what I did before, and I mean a lot of it.

Proper diet is a must, this been all over TRP subreddits, when I avoided fats and ate really low amounts of carbs and high amounts of protein I felt like shit, had no energy, burned muscle mass, this is a very bad idea. On the other hand, IIFYM.com for proper amounts of protein and fat and lower the carbs it gives there...

39% of americans are low in B12, because they often have absorbtion issues caused by pollution, smoking, surgeries, radioactive exposure. I take b12 supplements and get my levels checked. I also follow the McDougall diet which shreds the pounds like crazy. More info here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XVf36nwraw ( and don't let the title give you the wrong impression)

Source: http://www.amazon.com/Could-Be-B12-Epidemic-Misdiagnoses/dp/1884995691

There are many studies that says Vitamin C doesn't do anything, but they use low dosages. Less than 2grams usually -- not enough. Check out this book, read the preview: http://www.amazon.com/Vitamin-Remarkable-Controversial-Healing-Factor/dp/159120223X/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1368535520&sr=8-3-fkmr1&keywords=miracle+of+vitamin+c+book

A skeptic is just the same as a person that's gullible. They have their mind set on a belief even against solid evidence.

I suffer from B12 deficiency. I was diagnosed like 5 years ago when I failed all my classes, was suffering from a lot of stress, hand shaking, a tiny bit of memory loss, having a hard time concentrating, feeling sad sometimes without a reason, sleeping problems and losing weight.

I started with a shot on a weekly basis for 2 months I think and then once a month for a couple of months or so.

It totally fixed me. I remember I felt the change around the 2nd shot.

All those symptoms I mentioned were gone for good. During the next years, when I started feeling funny I get a B12 count in a nearby lab and if I'm low on B12, just do the weekly shot for 1 month or so. It I'm not low it's probably just stress.

So, to answer your question. If you indeed suffer from B12 deficiency I totally recommend it. The coolest part is that if you pee after getting the shot, your pee will look purple-ish. But, if you don't have that problem, I don't see why you would want to get shots.

Go to a lab to get a B12 count, consider if you are feeling symptoms and decide from there. There's a cool book about B12 deficency.