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I've made some slight modifications to this, mostly to make it easier to follow. I've also included steps that should be quite obvious to someone who's done any homebrewing before, but I wish someone had told me when I first started.

I'd link to the original, for the sake of attribution, but the user who posted this deleted their account not long after I wrote everything down.

This will produce a sweet fruit-mead (or melomel). WARNING this will be far more alcoholic than it tastes, and should not be consumed if you've recently taken antibiotics, or suffered gastric distress, as the yeast culture will still be alive, and will happily colonize your intestines if your gut microbiome is too fucked up.

Equipment: Most of this stuff will be a good deal cheaper at your local homebrew store, but I've included amazon links (also to the yeast).

At least 2 (3 is better, for reasons we'll get to) 1-gallon jugs (I don't recommend scaling this up), glass preferred. Add an extra jug for each additional batch. This one includes a drilled stopper and airlock

Drilled stoppers (or carboy bungs) and airlocks, non-drilled rubber stoppers.

An autosiphon and food-safe tubing.

Food-safe sanitizing solution (I recommend StarSan).

An electric kettle with temperature selector is useful, but not needed.

If you want to bottle it rather than just keeping a jug in your fridge:

Empty beer or wine bottles (just save your empties), capping or corking equipment, caps or corks, and a bottling wand.

Ingredients:

2.5 lbs (1130g) honey, clover recommended.

A cup (approximately 250ml) or so of fruit (I recommend blackberries, and I strongly recommend against cherries, other recipes have worked for me, but this yields a very medical flavor with cherries).

1 packet Lalvin EC-1118 yeast (a champagne yeast notable for its hardiness, its ability to out-compete other microorganisms, and its high alcohol tolerance).

Optional: potassium sorbate (to reduce yeast activity when our ferment is done), pectic enzyme (aka pectinase - for aesthetic purposes). Both are also available in bulk.

Process:

Day 1:

Mix sanitizing solution with clean water at specified proportions in one of your jugs, filling the jug most of the way. Stopper it, shake it. Remove stopper, set it down wet-side-up (to keep it sterile), pour the fluid to another jug. There will be foam left behind, this is fine, don't bother to rinse it or anything. At low concentrations this stuff is totally fine to drink, and won't ruin your fermentation or flavor.

Add honey to jug, all of it.

If you have a kettle, and your jug is glass, heat water to around 160F (71 Celsius), pour a volume into your jug roughly equal to the amount of honey present. Fix sterile stopper to jug. Shake until honey and water are thoroughly combined. The heat will make it FAR easier to dissolve the honey. Set aside for an hour or so while it cools. Add clean water 'til mostly full, leaving some room for fruit and headspace.

If you're missing a kettle, or using a plastic jug, this is gonna be a little harder. Fill most of the way with clean water (I recommend using a filter) leaving some room for fruit and headspace. Fix sterile stopper, shake 'til honey and water are thoroughly combined. This will take a while, and you will need to shake VERY vigorously.

At this point, you should have a jug mostly-full of combined honey and water. To this, add fruit (inspecting thoroughly for mold, don't want to add that). Then dump in a single packet of the Lalvin EC-1118 yeast, don't bother rehydrating it first or anything, it'll be fine going straight in. Add pectic enzyme if you have it (this does nothing to the flavor, it just makes the end product less cloudy). Stopper it up, shake it again. This jug now contains your "must" (pre-ferment mead).

Pour some sterilizing fluid in a bowl, put a carboy bung/drilled stopper in the bowl, with an airlock. Ensure full immersion. Let sit for a minute. Replace stopper with your bung/drilled stopper, affix airlock. Fill airlock with clean water, sanitizing fluid, or vodka. Rinse the stopper, fix it to your jug of sanitizing fluid.

Place must-jug in a dark place, I recommend a cabinet or closet.

Days 2-7:

Retrieve jug, give it a little jostle. Nothing so vigorous as to get your mead into the airlock, but enough to upset it. This is to release CO2 buildup, and to keep any part of the fruit from drying out. The foaming from the CO2 release may be very vigorous. Do this over a towel for your first batch. If the foam gets into your airlock, clean your airlock and reaffix it. Perform this jostling procedure at least once per day, more is better.

Day 8:

Final jostling, I recommend doing this in the morning.

Day 9:

let it sit, we want the sediment to settle.

Day 10: Time to get it off the sediment

Shake sterilizing fluid jug. Affix tubing to siphon. Put the siphon in the sterilizing fluid, shake the jug a little just to get the whole siphon wet. Siphon fluid into either a third container or a large bowl. This is all to sterilize both the inside and outside of your siphoning system.

Remove siphon from jug. Give it a couple pumps to empty it of any remaining fluid. Place siphon in your mead jug, leaving the end of the tubing in sterilizing fluid while you do this.

Take the jug that you just siphoned the sterilizing fluid from. Dump what fluid remains in it. Place the end of the tubing in this jug, then siphon the mead into it. Make no attempt to get the last bit of mead into your fresh container, it's mostly dead yeast and decomposing fruit.

Add potassium sorbate if you have it, stopper the jug, place it in your fridge.

Clean the jug you started in. Clean your siphon and tubing.

Day 11:

Let it sit

Day 12 or later: time to transfer again, or bottle it.

If you no longer have a jug full of sterilizing fluid, make one.

Repeat the earlier steps to sterilize the siphoning system, with a bottling wand attached to the end of the tubing if you want to bottle.

Sterilize your bottles or a clean jug, either with fluid or heat.

Siphon mead either into your bottles or jug. Stopper/cap/cork when done.

Put your jug/bottles in the fridge.

The yeast culture is still alive, and will continue to ferment. The fridge, and optional potassium sorbate, will merely slow this down. I recommend drinking any bottles within two months, to avoid a risk of bursting bottles. The mead should already be tasty at this point, but usually tastes much better after a couple more weeks.

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Hey sorry your feeling lousy :( ive been on a journey myself with brain fog. Long story not so long, I refused plaquenil while on cellcept (to help save my kidneys). I've been to holistic doctors too. My remedies are to eat a lot of bone broth bowls with veggies, and take the proper supplements to feed your body the nutrients it needs. Diet and supplements are vital imo to long term health. Here's what I take now and my Brian fog is long gone:

--Morning

--I start with shake containing:

--Orgain meal powder - amazon

--Orgain superfood powder - amazon

                --garden of life perfect food powder (used to take this a lot, but transitioned to the orgain superfood powder) - amazon

--Flax Seed (store) or Gerbs super seed blend (flax, pumpkin, chia, etc) - amazon

--I then take(these are available at Amazon, locally, or swansonvitamins.com):

--acai/ginger/turmeric blend

--omega 3, helps with heart/blood

--PQQ, helps with mitochondrial repair

--CoQ10, helps heart

--L-Glutamine, helps a bunch of stuff

--glutathione

--Vitamin D

--Vitamin C

--msm

--natto serra (https://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Best-Natto-Serra-Non-GMO-Gluten/dp/B00DBEVTDE/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1534181176&sr=8-3&keywords=natto+serra)

--Sulforaphane from Broccoli Sprout Extract

--cognitex with brain shield

--l-lysine

--circumin complex

--spirulina/astaxan

--magnesium/calcium/zinc

--monolaurin (take on occasion)

--Lunch

--multivitamin with no iron

--flaxseed oil caps.

--reserveratol

--alpha lipoic acid

--acai/ginger/turmeric

--ginger root

--enzymes

--lung essentials

--olive leaf extract

--dhea

--milk thistle

--berberine

--swanson Dynamic Balance Blend Soil-Based Organisms

--fenugreek

--plant sterols

--Dinner

--betaine hcl (only on days with heavy meats)

Then main ingredient from what I gather in Pangrol is pancreatin. For those of us in the U.S. you can get it here (I just ordered some)

https://www.amazon.com/NOW-Pancreatin-10X200-250-Capsules/dp/B000776KK0

Bit of background. I've been dealing with what I believe are CHS symptoms on and off for years, although very mild compared to most as my consumption is very low (Daily but <.1g vaped in the evenings.) 1/8 lasts me well over a month. I've had success in treating my digestive issues through healthy eating, enzymes, probiotics, exercise and another product also on amazon called "Restore" for gut health.

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Bottom line, whether it's pangrol, pancreatin or other enzymes, I really think treating this as a digestive issue, and de-stressing using meditation/yoga/exercise and supplements like GABA can help greatly.

(I'm not a doctor nor have I consulted one regarding this but I do tons of research on this subject). While I can't call Pangrol or other enzymes a cure, I encourage everyone to try and report back. Enzymes have made a difference for me.

All of those ingredients ARE available, maybe having to get them in capsule form like the papain and the Astralagus, etc. Getting them would probably include a combination of interneting and health food shop scouring, but perfectly doable.

There was a piece of legislature in Germany a short while ago that meant that if something was to be sold as a health supplement it had to have some official source of research. Quite a few of the health supplement brands are German based, and the profit margins had to be high enough to warrant a study or two (this saw devil's claw being pulled for a short while). A lot of health food supplements got pulled due to this, but as long as the full list has more than 'word of mouth' merit it should be fine.

The only query I'd have is the massive initial start up cost of getting all the ingredients. Some of the ingredients, like the amylase, would be used in only small quantity per batch of drink but the shelf life from what I remember isn't that grand and you'd be getting amylase in bulk.

I'd say the whole thing would be more expensive overall if you take into consideration the whole thing of the amount of room all the ingredients would take, the initial start up cost, the expiry date of ingredients(*), etc. This would then also include individual shipping cost, individual tax, etc.

tl;dr: Most adaptogens sound like they are from Dragon Ball Z.

The enzymes work by taking them before you eat to prevent bloating, they won't help if you're already bloated.

I've started taking charcoal tablets when I notice I'm getting bloated - I haven't been doing it for long but I feel like maybe it's helping? I also keep peppermints on hand at all time since I've read that peppermint can help calm your stomach.

I've been using these (along with Lacteeze) and they work pretty well. https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DZSZE32

Yes, you may be developing a gluten intolerance (I know because I started to develop one around 31 years old and beer is normally the first sign). There are a bunch of products online that help you process gluten (link below to the one I use). Hard alcohol normally is distilled and does not contain gluten or is made from non-gluten sources, so that is also a sign that you may have a gluten intolerance since hard alcohol isn't as bad on your sickness.

On another note, all gluten-free beers (made from sorgum or rice) taste like poop IMO. There are a few products (clarity ferm by white labs for example) that are used as a clarifier to reduce protein haze for beer that actually break up the gluten protein and make beer "gluten-reduce" because the FDA won't let them call it gluten free (even though it is well below gluten free threshold). For example, I live in San Diego. Dogleg brewing (amazing place) , Duckfoot, Abnormal, and a number of other use clarity ferm and I can drink 3 of their beers no problem, but if I have even half a pint from a brewery that doesn't use it (gluten rich beer) then I'm sick for about 12-20 hours.

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Best of luck. Hope this helps.

Link for the one I use

https://www.amazon.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Defense-Vegetarian-Capsules/dp/B0018MVUXU/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=gluten+enzyme&qid=1571158210&sr=8-7 .

Not sure what your budget is or what type of cage you have but I used these type of wire cubes to built a bigger home for my bun. For ideas on how to make a door/entrance take a look at this thread from a few weeks ago.


You can also try to put mats against the wires so he doesn't chew the wires and gets a snack instead. If he doesn't pay much attention to the mats you can try what I do at times, I get the treats (see link below) and rub it against the mats so it's more a more appetizing snack.

A few other suggestions when you move and have bigger space:

• Tunnels - Options 1 - for this one just keep an eye on the hanging ball - my bun chewed right through the string to get rid of the ball but otherwise loves the tunnel, Option 2, Option 3
  
  Treats (recommended by her vet)
  
  I also agree with a lot of the suggestions here, I have the Living World Teach treat toy and my bun just loves it, though doesn't care for other toys but lives for cardboard boxes. Hope this helps!

Sure! Generally, the diagnosis is done through a breath test. Please understand the breath test is not available from every practitioner. I wound up getting a referral to a GI clinic where a physician’s assistant I saw was quite accustomed to prescribing SIBO breath tests. Another place to get it without issue is from a naturopath if you’re open to seeing one. They are quite accustomed to prescribing these tests.

The test is performed at home by eating a limited diet for a day, fasting overnight, and then drinking a lactulose solution after taking a baseline and before performing the remainder of the test. Samples are taking by breathing into a test tube or other collection device over the course of an hour or so, while you begin to digest the lactulose. It measures how your body responds to this sugary solution. A limit of the test is it will only pick up on overgrowth in the upper part of the small intestine, while some people have overgrowth in the lower regions.

If you test positive you will likely be prescribed Rifaxamin, which is an antibiotic that doesn’t get digested until it hits the small intestine, so it’s perfect for targeting SIBO. The only problem with it I found is it is very expensive ($1500 for a three-week course, with multiple courses almost always needed) so depending on your health care coverage, you may or may not be able to afford it. My insurance did not cover it, so I had to find another way to treat my SIBO.

One study found some herbal OTC preparations are just as effective as Rifaxamin and a lot less expensive. So I did both, in succession. They were:

• Candibactin-AR together with Candibactin-BR
  
• Biotics Research FC-Cidal together with Biotics Research Dysbiocide
  
  Then I had symptoms of fungal overgrowth, which is very common following SIBO treatment. I did several rounds of OTC treatments for that (monolaurin and undecylenic acid).
  
  This process took me about 7 months, although I did take some breaks. I now only take a probiotic and a supplement that helps me digest proteins since I have trouble with casein (milk protein) and gluten (wheat protein). I am not cured or anything, but I am 10X better than I was last January. I don’t have chronic pain in my gut and other IBS-like symptoms.
  
  Feel free to ask any questions, I’d be happy to help.

DMSO by itself can slowly reduce scar tissue - more info - but one important property is that it increases tissue permeability. That is to say it allows other substances to easily penetrate cells. This can be dangerous if you are using DMSO with hazardous substances but that is not the case with digestive enzymes.

The DMSO/enzymes combination relies on Bromelain and Papain to chew up excess Fibrin (scar tissue) and the DMSO allows the enzymes to reach tissues it normally wouldn't. More on enzymes and scar tissue reduction.

DMSO can be ordered via Amazon - link - and I used Rainbow Light Advanced Enzyme System because the powder in the capsules can be mixed with the DMSO - link. You simply grab a glass or metal drinking glass (definitely not plastic due to the DMSO), fill with 12oz of water, add two capfuls of DMSO, break open an enzyme capsule and pour it into the glass then stir/shake until most of the powder is suspended in the mixture. Drink the mixture at least 2 hours after eating and do not eat or drink anything else for at least an hour so the enzymes break down the Fibrin and not your food.

If you aren't willing to try the DMSO/enzyme combo Systemic Proteolytic Enzyme pills such as Wobenzyme N may also work albeit more slowly.

Whatever path you choose I wish you the best of luck in solving your scar tissue issues. Just remember if one surgery caused scar tissue growth further surgeries also have a significant risk of the same outcome.

Similarly, I take amitriptyline, which is another tricyclic. I think I only take 25 mg/day but it's worked great for me.

Besides that, take a daily probiotic and immodium when needed. I also take generic Fibercon (not metamucil!) and these digestive enzymes. Just play around, stick to a certain regimen for a while to separate out cause and effect, and once you settle on something that helps, stick with it. :)

digest gold is super popular and vegan

* edit, I would also look at making rejuvelac. it's really easy, super powerful, has real, live enzymes. I use quinoa, it's the most potent and fastest to make.

Have you tried natural digestive enzymes? I like this one from Whole Foods. https://www.amazon.com/Whole-Foods-Market-Wholezyme-90/dp/B074H6YNKK

If you have a pork intolerance I could the GI issues being related to that but considering the rest of the symptoms sure sound like you may need a dose adjustment. I'd push for the test now. It's close enough. I know I wouldn't have waited that long to get mine no matter what they said. I'd order them myself if I had to but thankfully, I have a great medical team.

Enzymes for Digestion with Lactase Lipase Amylase Bromelain and 15 more! One of the Best Digestive Enzyme Supplements for IBS, Gallbladder, Gas, Bloating, Constipation Relief. Vegetarian, Gluten-Free https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ECAEMPC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_pzukDbWWJ7RHJ

This looks like is helping thanks God

These are the enzymes I take as they seem to upset my stomach the least. The probiotics are really strong, 100 billion count. I don't think you can buy them online, I got them from my Naturopathic Doctor. But I would recommend these for starters. They are enteric coated meaning the capsule will not dissolve until it reaches the small intestine - which is what you want otherwise your stomach acid will kill all the friendlies. As for the other supplements, the quality does not vary as much so it's not such huge deal. But I have found food based vitamins to be easier on most people's stomachs (for these I take New Chapter). Vitamin D supplement does not really matter as long as it's D3. This is what I take for Omega-3. I would definitely recommend getting an animal based Omega-3 supplement over a plant based one. I forget the exact explanation but essentially your body has to convert ALA to DHA - and it apparently doesn't do this at a very efficient rate. I'm sure a google search will explain it a lot better than I can.

You don't have to get anything expensive. When I read about it I was super skeptical that it would help with cravings. I bought this one from Amazon like a year ago https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072YHM6S2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_hk13Cb7X0RYVB

Your body produces probiotics already but if you're depleted. You tend to have bad digestive system. you want something that has the prebiotic part. These capsules we're great for me because I haven't even used all of them. Once you cut the junk food out your body does a pretty good job of regulating the bacteria. I realize I'm getting down voted for my previous comment but this really helped me when I changed my diet. It's not a silver bullet but it helped me it could help others.

I started off taking Super Papaya Plus Enzymes but wasn't a huge fan of the ingredient list so I started looking elsewhere. I ended up finding MRM Digest-All on sale 2 for $30 at my local Sprouts and I've been taking this for about 3 months now and I love it. Gallbladder isn't hurting anymore, got a normal color in my movements again, and I'm going multiple times a day. I have way more energy because I'm not backed up anymore. I would suggest the MRM. There may be better, but this one has done wonders for my digestive system.

I've tried this enzyme supplement and this expensive probiotic with some success. Looks like this and this are the most popular on Amazon though, from NOW Foods (a good brand), and cheaper.

Don't worry! When you first switch to a vegan diet lots of things make you gassy, but for the most part it subsides once your body adjusts.

I think it's all about having the proper gut bacteria for digestion or something. If it's really bad though, you could always take a vegan beano

Good luck with those toots :)

Put a jar of bean-zyme on her desk when she farts. It's a vegan gas reducing pill. Don't have any experience with it but it seems well regarded and clearly gets the point across.

Digestive enzymes might help! There are ones specifically labeled for glutening situations like this one or this one.

You may want to consider digestive enzymes as well. I take them before I eat and they help with my IBS symptoms.

Bean-zyme

Beano

Digestive Advantage Once Daily Gas Defense Formula

Activate Charcoal

Search these products for digestive enzymes

Try digestive enzymes and take one with every meal. They can help with gas and generally make challenging foods like fat, meat, and broccoli-type vegetables easy to digest. Try the FODMAP diet. My biggest ibs struggle has been painful bloating and the fodmap diet virtually eliminated my symptoms. The worst foods for me have been gluten and garlic. They blow my tummy up like a balloon. FYI, these are the enzymes I take: http://www.amazon.com/Enzymedica-Essential-Spectrum-Digestive-Capsules/dp/B00HLXPUBI

I keep this on hand at all times:

http://www.amazon.com/Foods-Gluten-Digest-Enzymes-Vcaps/dp/B003O1TZHQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377888368&sr=8-1&keywords=gluten+pills

or this works well too

http://www.amazon.com/Enzymedica-GlutenEase-120-caps/dp/B001PKRGME/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377888430&sr=8-1&keywords=glutenease

I have a severe reaction to beer so it doesn't work for me in that sense. But with food it works awesome!

I honestly don't know why more people don't just buy vegan Beanzyme.

Here's a fairly inexpensive alternative that you can get on-line. You take it with the first bite and it prevents the gas from forming. http://www.amazon.com/Bean-zyme-Anti-Gas-Digestive-Supplement-Shipping/dp/B000CQY9EK/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t/179-4308929-6982407

Vegan "Beano"? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0085XXNSA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1548516151&sr=8-1&keywords=B0085XXNSA

https://www.amazon.com/Bean-zyme-anti-gas-GALU-Beano-tab/dp/B000CQY9EK

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000776KK0?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Some people say it does eventually but not in my experience. Beans and cabbage never stop making me gassy no matter how much of them I eat. I have been tempted to order the cheaper version of Beano off Amazon.

I wanted to find out what exactly causes my troubles before I talk to my doctor again.
I told the guys at the pharmacy about my problem and asked if they would sell me KREON without presc. and they did.
So after comparing the ingredients the constipation fades with a high lipase supplement. I don't get it because undigested fat should cause diarrhea.

Oh I found this on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/NOW-Pancreatin-10X200-250-Capsules/dp/B000776KK0/ref=pd_sim_121_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000776KK0&pd_rd_r=KDVCET15CFHSXQHBWVNC&pd_rd_w=7Vgya&pd_rd_wg=5w0Wn&psc=1&refRID=KDVCET15CFHSXQHBWVNC

This seems to be equivalent to CREON 4000, cause the number correlates to the units of lipase.