(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best musical genres books

My suggestions are going to be very simple. I highly recommend you don't try to skip anything thinking it's too easy for where you are. This is how you end up with lots of gaps. I speak from deeply personal experience and some of the best improvements in my playing have come from realizing that unless it's easy enough that I can sightread it perfectly and effortlessly the first time, it's worth working. Every small thing even in children's beginner books helps build that scaffolding that remove ability gaps and helps you be a better and more consistent player.

>1) get some classic stuff that we learn at the begining and

Not entirely clear about what you want in terms of if you just want the basics or you specifically mean you want some classical style stuff. Either way, here are some recommendations.

Alfred All-In-One - This is just a generally good book to work through with a lot of fairly basic stuff mostly sticking to a very small harmonic palette used in a ton of music. You can carry on to level 2 and 3 when you're done.

Masterwork Classics - If you're looking for actual simple literature, this is a great place to start. Very easy pieces and a great progressive series of books.

Burgmuller Op. 100 - Probably a it more challenging, but great progressive stuff as well and very classical.

Czerny Op. 139 - More progressive goodness.

Czerny Op. 821 - Not progressive, but lots of very short, bite-sized exercises that isolate specific things that show up in classical music, but in a fun musical way rather than just dull exercises.

>2) get better at sight-reading. I have lots of gaps in my piano skills.

Progressive Sightreading - These are ridiculously easy, but this is really where you should start. They are easy enough to let you be successful quickly and focus on keeping your eyes on the page because they are all within a 5 finger pattern reach covering all keys.

Paul Harris books - These are progressive sets of books that slowly introduce specific concepts. My favorite part about them is the articulations and stylistic directions that go beyond just having you hit the right notes, but have you actually thinking about how you want a piece to sound.

Mikrokosmos - These start a bit easy, but get hard very quickly. They also tend to not stick to predictable western harmony, which helps with getting your reading out of its comfort zone. Additionally, there tends to be a good deal more left hand motion and even melodies which really helps your left hand not just be the accompaniment hand.

Bach Chorales - I'm honestly not a huge fan, but some people swear by these. I would actually instead recommend finding a hymnal instead. These chorales are not only more difficult than most hymns, but will be extremely frustrating if you don't have a comfortable 10th.

In general, you should be learning lots of small pieces constantly. A huge part of sightreading is actually being technically capable. If you can't execute it technically, you can't read it. So find lots of pieces in a variety of styles that you can learn in no more than a week, or better, several of in a week. Lots of short focused pieces will chip away at very small weakness in your playing very quickly and efficiently. This will make your reading much better. Better technique and reading will lead to you being able to learn increasingly difficult music much faster. You'll likely find that something that once might've taken you a month to learn could be learned in a week. Something that could be learned in a week might be learned in a day or even sightread.

Try to remember when learning new, simple pieces, to try to keep your eyes on the page. Not matter how slow or out of tempo you need to go, really learn to trust your ability to feel the distances and shapes of chords you need to play. You might need to look early on for stuff that is more difficult for you, but try to get to a point where you don't need to look. When you can trust yourself in that regard, your reading ability will increase a ton.

Normally, I would try to (somewhat) annotate stuff I link/mention but I'm tired on all levels of my being so forgive me for making this reply less detailed than I'd like it to be. Keep in mind that I don't know sht and half the time, I'm talking out my ss.

Mostly I hope this, at least, helps you guide your search. Or the things I write here are so horribad that it prompts someone to viciously correct me, thus giving you the real info you need! :p

I might circle back after some time to add notes here and there. Maybe. Also, this first reply will be focused on quartal harmony but I should be able to muster up the spoons to write up a search guide for minimalism later.

First, there are some really neat proto examples of quartal/quintal harmony in Medieval music. The starting search term for this would be organum. There were/are more than a few kinds^A of organum but examples of parallel organum should be most interesting to you.

David Fenwick Wilson has a book on Early music called Music in the Middle Ages: Style and Structure. It's admittedly an older book but I mention it specifically because there's a lovely youtube video^B with examples from the related anthology. As always, I'm a sl*t for Norton's music history books^C so check those out as well, imo.

Outside of the realm of "classical" music, most of the quartal harmony you'll encounter will be in the form of quartal voicings^D for otherwise tertian chords. It's a favorite trick for more than a few jazz giants so naturally, there's an absolute glut^E of resources for this.

When we get to classical music though, we start to get some actual spicy stuff, like fully formed quartal harmonic systems and languages. Paul Hindemith was a BIG fan of quartal stuff. You can check out his own writings^F about his musical system in his book on composition. Arnold Schoenberg also devotes a section in his book on harmony^G to the newer quartal sounds cropping up (well "new" when he wrote it at any rate).

From there it's really a matter of doing the grunt work of either analyzing composers you find writing quartal harmony OR researching analyses of said composers. Sure, quartal harmony (and the related term "interval cycle") gets mentioned in more than a few books on 20th century harmony like Vincent Persichetti's^H or Richard Strauss's^I books; both might be good jumping off points on your journey.

Seemingly, every composer and their mother (Hindemith, Schoenberg, Stravinsky, Copland, Cowell, Ives) experimented with quartal writing in the 20th century. So while definitive guides might be hard to track down, specific examples aren't. I'll include an analysis or two that you might find helpful in the list below. Be on the look out for any edits I might sneak in!

Beyond that, perhaps the most concrete way we could help you would be to analyze specific pieces/instances of quartal language you find and walk you through any questions you had about the piece. When I'm not tired, I'm usually down to dig into some cool music. Drop a score, ask something, and let's analyze something together! Still, I hope this helps. Have fun on your compositional journey and take care!

A.) https://sophia.smith.edu/~rsherr/earlypol.htm

B.) https://youtu.be/SgHzH5iDcGQ

C.) https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393929157

D.) https://leadingtone.tumblr.com/post/8203279125/quartal-voicings-in-jazz-here-refers-to-an

E1.) https://www.jazzguitar.be/blog/quartal-chords-harmony-voicings-for-guitar/

E2.) https://www.thejazzpianosite.com/jazz-piano-lessons/jazz-chord-voicings/quartal-voicings/

E3.) http://greglui.com/blog/quartal-voicings/

F.) https://www.amazon.com/Craft-Musical-Composition-Theoretical-Part/dp/0901938300

G.) https://www.amazon.com/Theory-Harmony-ANNIVERSARY-Arnold-Schoenberg/dp/0520266080

H.) https://www.amazon.com/Twentieth-Century-Harmony-Creative-Aspects-Practice/dp/0393095398

I.) https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Post-Tonal-Theory-Fourth-Joseph/dp/0393938832

J.) Berg's Lyric Suite has plenty of quintal yumminess. Check out Perle's analysis of its interval cycles: https://www.jstor.org/stable/741747?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

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Remember that the Mixolydian scale had a structure of Root, major 2, major 3, perfect 4, perfect 5, major 6, and minor 7.

If our root is G that would be G, A, B, C, D, E, F, (G).

If we are to arrange this as a chord (by skipping notes) we get:
Root, major 3, perfect 5, minor 7, major 9, perfect 11, major 13.

(Remember that a 2nd becomes a 9th in the higher octave, so major 2nd = major 9th. A 4th becomes an 11th in the higher octave, so perfect 4th = perfect 11th. A 6th becomes a 13th in the second octave so major 6th = major 13th).

So now we can see how and why modes are used.

If you stack a Mixolydian scale as a chord, you can see how the first three notes spell out a major triad. Therefore, the Mixolydian scale can be used over a major triad. e.g. play a G major triad with the left hand, and improvise with the G Mixolydian scale in the right hand.

If you stack a Mixolydian scale as a chord, you can see how the first four notes spell out a major triad with a minor seventh: in other words, a dominant seventh chord. i.e. G Mixolydian works over a G7 chord, because the notes in the chord are contained within the scale.

If you stack a Mixolydian scale as a chord, the fifth note is a major 9th. A dominant seventh chord + a major ninth is a dominant ninth chord (usually just called a ninth chord). i.e. G mixolyidian works over G9.

We can keep going but you probably get the idea. A scale will work over any chord that contains the notes in the scale.

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If you stack a major scale as chord you get:
Root, major 3, perfect 5, major 7th, major 9, pefect 11, major 13.

Note that both the major scale and the mixolydian scale contain a major triad as the first three notes. Therefore, both scales will "work" over a major triad (i.e. both G major and G mixolydian will work over a G major triad).

However, look at the 4th note you get when the major scale is stacked as a chord. It is a major seventh. Major triad + major 7th = Major ninth chord. Here's where the major scale and the mixolydian mode differ. The G Mixolydian scale will not work over a G major 9th chord, and the G major scale will not work over a G dominant ninth chord.

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How to know when to use which scale?

Remember that the mixolydian mode was built off of the 5th note of the major scale. e.g. G mixolydian is the fifth mode of C major. So in the key of C the chord built off of the fifth note (the "V" chord) will naturally take the Mixolydian scale built off of that note.

However, for practical purposes, there's no need to think of modes when playing key-center based music: if you're in the key of C, playing the C major scale over the C major chord (the I chord) and then playing G mixolydian over the G major chord (the V chord) means that you're just playing the same scale over both chords--it will give you a different perspective, but the notes will be the same.

The real benefit of modes is that it gives you tools to play over songs that aren't necessarily major/minor key based; i.e. songs that use non-functional harmony. Imagine a song with a chord progression of G7 to Bb7 throughout the tune. These two chords don't belong to any one key: this is a situation where you'd want to think modally, i.e. play G mixolydian over the G7 and switch to Bb Mixolydian over Bb7.

(Note that chord-scale theory is not an improvisation method*. Many students are misguided when they are taught to play x scale over x chord. Chord-scale theory let's you understand harmony, which notes are strongest or most stable against a particular chord how to add extensions. Learning improvisation is more about learning how to target chord tones on the strong beats, and embellishing a melody using mostly chromatic devices.)
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So I used the major scale and the Mixolydian mode as examples in this essay. Since there are seven notes in the major scale, each one of those notes can be thought of as the root of a different mode; each one will be distinct, and the fully extended chord will be different for each mode.

The seven modes of the C major scale are:

C Major scale (a.k.a. C Ionian): C D E F G A B (Root, Maj2, Maj3, P4, P5, Maj6, Maj7)
D Dorian: D E F G A B C (Root, Maj2, min3, P4, P5, Maj6, min7)
E Phyrigian: E F G A B C D (Root, min2, min3, P4, P5, min6, min7)
F Lydian: F G A B C D E (Root, Maj2, Maj3, P4, P5, Maj6, Maj7)
G Mixolydian: G A B C D E F (Root, Maj2, Maj3, P4, P5, Maj6, min7)
A Aeolian (a.k.a the Natural Minor Scale): A B C D E F G (Root, Maj2, min3, P4, P5, min6, min7)
B Locrian: B C D E F G A (Root, min2, min3, P4, diminished 5th, min6, min7)

We can say these seven modes are relative to each other, because they use the same set of notes. In other words, D dorian is relative to C major.

If we build each of those 7 scales on C, and look at their structure, we get:

C Lydian: C D E F# G A B (Root, Maj2, Maj3, Augmented 4th, P5, Maj6, Maj7)
C Major/Ionian: C D E F G A B (Root, Maj2, Maj3, P4, P5, Maj6, Maj7)
C Mixolydian: C D E F G A Bb (Root, Maj2, Maj3, P4, P5, Maj6, min7)
C Dorian: C D Eb F G A Bb (Root, Maj2, min3, P4, P5, Maj6, min7)
C Aeolian/Natural Minor: C D Eb F G Ab Bb (Root, Maj2, min3, P4, P5, min6, min7)
C Phrygian: C Db Eb F G Ab Bb (Root, min2, min3, P4, P5, min6, min7)
C Locrian: C Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb (Root, min2, min3, P4, diminished 5th, min6, min7)

We can say that these 7 modes are parallel to each other, because they are built on the same root*. In other words C Dorian is parallel to C major, while C Dorian is relative to Bb major. (Also, try to figure out why I listed them in that order!)

It's up to you to go through them. Just remember what the important information is:

• What is the interval structure of the mode, and how does it compare with the major scale built on the same root?
  
• What are the chords produced by the mode when you skip every other note? What is the triad, what is the seventh chord, and what are the extensions?
  
• Learn to sing each of the modes from memory; this is how you will learn the individual character of each.
  
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  Beyond the modes of the major scale, (and aside from the chromatic scale) you also have the seven modes of:
  
  
• The Melodic Minor scale (a.k.a. the jazz minor scale)
  
• The Harmonic Minor scale
  
• The Harmonic Major scale
  
• The Double Harmonic scale
  
  And there are the three symmetrical scales:
  
  
• The symmetrical diminished (only two different modes)
  
• The symmetrical augmented scale (only two different modes)
  
• The whole tone scale (only one mode)
  
  These scales pretty much cover every possible scale/chord. Some people may include pentatonic scales, but those are really just derivatives, created by leaving out a couple notes from the other scales.
  
  (For a more in-depth resource on the theory/philosophy behind scales, see:
  TheTonalCentre.org, and
  Slonimsky's Thesaurus Of Scales And Melodic Patterns)
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  The best general jazz chord-scale theory text I've seen (I've seen them all) is probably the Berklee book,
  Chord Scale Theory and Jazz Harmony;
  However, even better would be the Bert Ligon books, because they go into more detail about how to actually put it into practice:
  Connecting Chords with Linear Harmony
  Jazz Theory Resources Volume 1
  Jazz Theory Resources Volume 2
  Comprehensive Technique for Jazz Musicians
  

Here is a good summary of four note rootless voicings and Here is a more complete chart.

I start all of my students off with these. The voicings generally take about 1-3 months to get in your fingers (mostly muscle memory). Around 6 months you'll be able to plug them into lead sheets without too much thought, but you probably won't be able to do it in real time. Around 12 months you really won't have to think about them any more. They are a great place to start with voicings because they give you a great sound in a compact one-hand format. Remember that the bass player is covering the root of the chord, so you are more concerned about 3,5,7,9,11,13.

The most two most important things in jazz are keeping your place in the form and playing in time. You can have the hippest voicing but if it's not in the pocket, it's going to sound awful. Likewise, you can have the coolest, most innovative improvisation, but if you're lost in the form, it's not going to flow over the changes.

Play with a metronome, ALWAYS. Explore play-along tracks, Jamey Aebersold books being the most well-known. There are also great online resources for play-along tracks. Check out here for a great place to start. These are also fun.

Get started on ear training yesterday. It'll help a lot. I like this trainer as it has a lot of things tailored towards jazz musicians. It has some simple play-along tracks too.

If you need something basic just to get by for now (while learning the voicings I linked above) then really start to learn the thirds and sevenths of chords. These are called guide tones and they are all you really need to define a chord. Try playing an A3 and an E4 in your right hand over an F2 in your left hand. There's a nice voicing for the Fmaj7 you listed above. It sounds a whole lot cooler than FAC and will get you started thinking about splitting your voicings up to use more of the keyboard. You want to get to the point where you see a chord on the page and you instantly know what the third and the seventh of the chord is. Make sure you get the correct third and seventh:

• Major7th Chord: Major Third, Major Seventh | C E G B
  
• Minor7th Chord: Minor Third, Minor Seventh | C Eb G Bb
  
• Dominant7th Chord: Major Third, Minor Seventh | C E G Bb
  
  Learn those combinations and see if you can get through a lead sheet naming thirds and sevenths as you go.
  
  There's really a whole lot more I could write about the topic, but this might be enough to get you started.
  
  If you have specific songs that you need help with, don't hesitate to ask. I would be happy to work out some simple arrangements/voicings/solos with you.
  
  Good luck!
  
  
  
  

I know it's a contentious group of pieces, but I've had incredible luck with Hanon. If you can read music and play hands together, I highly recommend it.

I took lessons for 13 years, but since I've been in college I've been self teaching. I've always really loved piano and I have decent technique, but I never really learned things in a way that wasn't sloppy. I decided I wanted to change that, and I sat down and learned all 3 parts of Hanon exactly as instructed in the book. It's not a perfect method, but I play through it every day now and honestly my technique is miles beyond what it used to be. I wish I had learned as a beginner so badly it hurts.

So my suggestion to you is this: buy this book (http://www.amazon.com/Hanon-Virtuoso-Exercises-Complete-Schirmers/dp/0793525446/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1414561983&sr=1-1&keywords=hanon), play through it every day (no matter how boring it may get) exactly as instructed. It takes a little under an hour to play the whole book at tempo, and I imagine you'll be preoccupied learning all of the etudes for quite a while.

I'm a firm believer that we can all craft ourselves into excellent pianists, and all I think you need to do that is repertoire and a will to practice and make a sound that you like. Once you have the technique from the Hanon down, you can get started on any number of pieces. Another very good method is Bela Bartok's Mikrokosmos, which my mean, Hungarian teacher made me slave away at for years. It comes in 6 volumes, the first of which is (http://www.amazon.com/Mikrokosmos-Pink-English-French-Hungarian/dp/1423493044/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1414562208&sr=1-1&keywords=mikrokosmos).

If you were to learn a significant amount of the material from either of those methods, you would be a significantly better pianist. If classical piano isn't necessarily the route you want to go, you'll still be well served by either/or.

The most important thing is to play whenever the urge strikes you, in my experience. It becomes a bit of an addiction, but there's such a huge world of piano music out there that you'll never grow bored with it, and you'll certainly never run out of things to do. Best of luck.

For anything that involves advanced music theory, or more technical elements of music, your best bet (IMHO) is to stay clear from jazz/rock books or anything "popular" and read from traditional academic/classical composers. That is, if you're looking to understand music from a more historic point of view of how is was used, and how it worked for hundreds of years and how it still works today.

There are tons of good books out there, but off the top of my head I reccomend:

Regarding the art of counterpoint:


Preliminary exercises in Counterpoint - Schoenberg

Also, you could check out the traditional Fux's Study of Counterpoint, but I think Schoenberg's book is far more complete and incentive.

Regarding the art of Harmony:


For a long time I've always thought that books could educate you in any way, until I met my harmony teacher. After studying with her for a couple years I find it hard to believe how much information, technique, and art is missing from almost every book on the subject, some are exceptions, obviously, but my recommendation is that there is no better way of learning this but with personal intruction. Also, the teacher needs to be someone who has had a strong education in music from well-known masters of the past, as was my teacher.

Anyways, regarding harmony in the more poetical and theoretical sense I reccomend :

Rameau's Treatise on Harmony

and of course, Schoenberg's Theory of Harmony

For a more technical approach to harmony I haven't found any books I'm really fond of, but I do think that Paul Hindemith's book is a very good option.

For something in the middle I recommend this

Regarding form and structure in music:


Once again, I have never seen information and instruction similar to that which I received with my professors, however here are a few good picks...

Schoenberg's Fundamentals of musical composition

and 2 books that I found very useful were...
(these I didn't find on amazon.com)

from German composer Clemens Kuhn: "Formenlehre der Musik" (this is only in German)

and from Spanish composer Joaquin Zamacois: "Curso de Formas Musicales" (this is only in Spanish I believe)

Well, surely there are more books, but I think these are good options for you to start. However, always with a grain of salt

Your Wish Is My Command:

Bass Lead:
Johnny Dyani - Song For Biko
Paul Chambers - Bass on Top (Miles Davis bassist- This guy is seriously cool)

General Jazz
Clarke, Kenny & Francy Boland Big Band - Change Of Scenes (Big band with a bass solo on track 6 thats amazing)
Axelrod, David - Song Of Innocence
Axelrod, David - Songs Of Experience heavily sampled by everyone - hear it asap
Ayler, Albert - Live In Greenwich Village The Complete Impulse Recordings (their rendition of saints go marching in will change your perspective of music forever)
Stitt, Sonny - Kaleidoscope
Silver, Horace - Blowin' The Blues Away
Sharrock, Sonny - Ask The Ages (guitar jazz)
Rollins, Sonny - Saxaphone Colossus
Ra, Sun And The Arkestra - Sound Of Joy (planet earth on this lp is one i play my friends to get them into jazz, most end up digging it)
Parlan, Horace - Happy Frame Of Mind (this guy has a physical disability with his hand which makes his playing unique)
Morgan, Lee - The Sidewinder
Monk, Thelonious - Straight, No Chaser
La Roca, Pete - Basra
Lacy, Steve - 5 X Monk 5 X Lacy
Lateef, Yusef - Eastern Sounds
Laws, Hubert - In The Beginning
Hancock, Herbie - Head Hunters
Green, Grant - Matador
Davis, Miles - Birth Of The Cool
Davis, Miles - Round About Midnight
Davis, Miles - Miles Ahead
Davis, Miles - Kind Of Blue
Davis, Miles - Sketches Of Spain
Davis, Miles - Seven Steps To Heaven
Davis, Miles - Miles Smiles
Davis, Miles - Nefertiti
Davis, Miles - Filles De Kilimanjaro
Davis, Miles - Bitches Brew
Davis, Miles - In A Slient Way
Davis, Miles - A Tribute To Jack Johnson
Davis, Miles - On The Corner

Weird\Free\Awkward Jazz
Don Cherry - Mu
Ornette Coleman - Shape Of Jazz To Come (More important than miles in my opinion)
Taylor, Cecil - Unit Structures
Big Satan - I Think They Liked It Honey
Shepp, Archie - The Magic Of Ju-Ju

The Most Difficult Album Ever:
Brotzmann, Peter - Machine Gun

I got into Jazz by listening to Theme De Yoyo by Art Ensemble Of Chicago. From there I moved onto the big hitters like John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Dave Brubeck. Closer inspection of the players on the albums will lead you to other soloists. For example the Sax player Cannonball Adderly is on kind of blue, he has an album called Somethin' Else which has Art Blakey on Drums etc etc etc.

The more you dig the more you find out there is to listen. You then start to visit historic people like louis armstrong, duke ellington etc and through that you recognize standards. Then once you start out seeking out standards you realise loads of people do them and you get into the modern stuff.

All music is for sure a great resource as they basically tell you who is on the lp and its rating. i trust them for jazz. Also, this book is lovely.

I then started seeking out records labels like Blue Note, Impulse, ECM, Jazz Actuel, Columbia Jazz etc.

Let me know how you are getting on in the future. I'd stay clear at the moment from loft jazz, fire music and free jazz as some of its crazy. And I will just laugh when you hear machine gun and go "WTF IS THIS!!!!) yes, it IS a saxophone...

just enjoy it.

Thanks very much for the examples. I'm starting to get an idea of what you're aiming at. I wasn't able to listen to the Epica song due to territory restrictions, but I'm just a bit confused because all of the others were guitar based and didn't have any piano in at all. Can you give me some examples involving the piano style you are interested in?

From these examples I would say that the type of ballad you like is a sub-category of pop/rock. The main difference between this and classical music is that classical music is generally fully notated and performers are expected to play exactly according to the score. Whereas pop/rock is often derived from jamming/improvisation in the studio, and the notated version (if one is even made) is more like a guideline. With jazz even more so - jazz is fully improvised, generally around a given melody or chord structure, and pretty much never notated.

I would suggest taking a look at The Jazz Piano Book by Mark Levine. Sorry I could only find the kindle edition although it definitely exists as a hard copy because I've got it at home. This takes you through the process of learning jazz piano from the most basic elements to full competence. If you can play jazz you will be able to play any pop/rock, because it will seem very simple by comparison.

If you would like to learn classical piano then reacquainting yourself with reading music is the top priority. And it would also be good if you could identify the type of classical piano you are most interested in. Perhaps you could take a youtube tour of the main keyboard composers in different musical periods.

In the Baroque era the three main keyboard composers were Johann Sebastian Bach, Georg Frederick Handel and Domenico Scarlatti.

In the Classical era the three main keyboard composers were Franz Joseph Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven.

In the Romantic era the main keyboard composers were Chopin, Liszt, Schumann and Brahms - but this era bleeds into the next era of Modernism, so there are still composers such as Debussy, Ravel and Rachmaninov writing in a Romantic style well into the 20th century.

Let me know if you'd like some specific examples and I'll compile a list.

I had been practicing for about a bit less than a year before I decided to take up sightreading seriously. Similarly, when I was younger, my teacher didn't really ever teach me to sight read, so I mostly used the sheet to figure out how to move my fingers then never looked back.

That being said, I want to say that noticeable results were actually pretty quick. Within a week or two I was actually following and reading notes much better. At this point, I had bought a small sightreading book with about 50 or so small 5 bar pieces. I don't recommend this one, it's not very good in my opinion. I started on Bartok's Mikrokosmos next. This is where I saw the most improvement in a short time. This was the most helpful because his music tends to be pretty dissonant and doesn't sound how you'd expect. When you can't really predict the next note easily, it really forces you to read the sheet. I HIGHLY recommend this book. It works really well on a lot of levels. It's good for beginners and gets progressively more difficult as you go. It does spike in difficulty somewhat fast, so so use some of the other resources I linked below.

Though when I say improvements I don't mean I could sight read a Liszt concerto. I just mean that I had begun a mentality shift away from muscle movements and looking at the keys to actively looking at the sheet.

Here's another thread with a bunch of useful materials. A lot of these can be found online for free as well. I used the Gurlitt pieces as well, which were helpful. I can't vouch for it all, because I haven't played all the pieces, but if you worked your way through all those pieces in a week or two, you would see massive differences.

After using a lot of those pieces I got into the Bach Chorales because I had somewhat of a foundation for reading sheet at this point. I wouldn't really recommend it as a starter book. Go to Mikrokosmos for that.

Some materials I am using now is a big book of Chopin works. I take it pretty slowly and make a bunch of mistakes, but it's pretty helpful for recognizing chords which is a skill in it's own.

Some tips for practice:

• Try to consume as much music as possible. Online, hard sheet, anything. Just make sure you aren't retaining any of the music and if you do play it again, you shouldn't be able to remember the specifics of the piece.
  
  
• Sight reading is mentally exhausting, which is good to keep in mind. There's a lot of days where I really don't want to do it because it is one of the most mentally strenuous activities I do. You have to push yourself a bit.
  
  
• Take it slowly. You don't need to play up to the recommended tempo if you cant play at that speed. Play at a speed where you make the least mistakes. That's where you retain the most. Use a metronome as well. Don't play at different speeds, keep a consistent tempo.
  
  
• Sight reading is not much more different from the actual reading of words. Your brain does some pretty interesting things when reading. It clumps a jumble of letters into a word (notes in a chord), and reads ahead of what you are actively processing. It's very hard to read ahead with sheet, so don't worry about it too much. It comes with time and practice. Just keep both of these in mind.

Thanks for the gold - my first!

I learned SO MUCH in my undergrad and master's degrees in jazz performance. I'm not sure what style you're really going for here (although I had your melody stuck in my head in a Latin jazz style), but one of the most useful resources was this book:

https://www.amazon.ca/Jazz-Language-Theory-Composition-Improvisation/dp/0760400148

It's not a giant text so it's very affordable and digestible. But there wasn't a lot of reliance on texts or reading in my program (when it comes to jazz theory). We got a thorough understanding of music theory and jazz theory through practical application in private lessons and participatory courses like Improvisation or Jazz Styles.

Also I think I'm pretty smart about this stuff in general :)

Wish I had more concrete resources to offer you! Feel free to PM with Qs any time.

I have a debut neo-soul single coming out in May :) I'll send you my social media stuff if you're interested in hearing it!

Hey, I’m kind of a book junkie when it comes to common practice stuff, so I’m gonna throw a bunch of em at ya. The common practice era of composition can be broken down into 3 major fields of study: Form/Composition, Harmony and Orchestration. Form/composition is about how music develops over time harmonically and melodically. Harmony is about how vertical sonorities interact with one another, this is one of the most fleshed out aspects of music theory. Orchestration, usually the capstone discipline, dives into how groups of instruments interact with one another on a harmonic level and a melodic one. Harmony+composition can be studied simultaneously considering there is so much overlap, orchestration usually comes after you have a middling understanding of the other two subjects.

There are a bunch of free online materials on these subjects, but here is my personal favorite:
http://openmusictheory.com/contents.html

There are also a few free books on harmony, orchestration and composition, but most of them were published a very long time ago. As a consequence, you may run into outdated or poorly explained concepts.

Harmony:

Guide to the Practical Study of Harmony

Orchestration:

Principles of Orchestration

Composition:

Fundamentals of music Composition

Exercises in Melody Writing

Most of the stuff with comprehensive+up to date information on these subjects is going to be something you pay for. Here are my favorite textbooks. One thing I value in a textbook is an accompanying workbook and/or some sort of exercise based learning, so I’ll be listing the workbooks (if applicable) as well.

Melody in Songwriting

Craft of Musical Composition Parts One and Two

Models For Beginners in Composition

Harmonic Practice in Tonal Music

Workbook for Harm Practice

The Study of Orchestration

Workbook for The Study of Orchestration

This isn’t an exhaustive list but it’s pretty solid.


Recording orchestras is out of reach for most, so you’ll probably need some good VSTs to use and some knowledge of how to make them sound ‘real’. Building an orchestra template is key to making music quickly and efficiently. It’s a massive headache to have to wait for Kontakt to load and instrument every time you want to add a flute or violin to your score. Here are the basics of what you’ll need:


Woodwinds:

Flutes

Clarinets

Saxophones

Oboes

Bassoons



Brass:

French horns

Trumpets

Trombones

Tubas

“Low brass”


Strings:

1st Violins

2nd Violins

Violas

Cellos

Bass

First chairs of each


Others:

PIANOS

Harps

Choirs

Guitars

Vibraphones

Glockenspiels

Etc


Orchestral percussion

Concert Toms

Taikos

Snares

Concert bass drums


Here are some places to get all of that:

Audio Bro (the ARC system is awesome)

Spitfire

8Dio

Orchestral Tools (my favorite)

CineSamples

EastWest Sounds

Heres a resource to make all of that stuff sound ‘real’. It’s a lot more difficult then you may think.

The Guide to MIDI Orchestration 4e

Check out Bill Frisell, Mahavishnu Orchestra, and Weather Report. These are all fusion guys and may serve as a good bridge between rock and jazz for you. Beyond that, learn about the greats. Even non-guitarists. Learn about how Louis Armistrong played trumpet, how Coltrane played sax, how Monk played piano, how Max Roach played drums. One thing I love about jazz is that there's a lot of cross-instrument inspiration. A whole style of piano playing was invented by Armstrong's pianist mimicking his trumpet playing on the keys.

Other people have recommended the Ken Burns Jazz documentary, and I would as well. It's a great look through the history of jazz. This book is also a great resource, going both into the history and the musicality of jazz.

Huh, how did I miss that one? Definitely going to order it. I have the Brendan Mullen Oral and Visual History on my coffee table and that one is pretty sweet too.

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Hot-Chili-Peppers-History/dp/006135192X

Edit: so I added Me and My Friends to my cart on Amazon and this book called Fandemonium, apparently dedicated to the fans of RHCP, was a suggested purchase. Looks awesome! I'm into photography so it looks like a nice way to combine two of my favorite things haha

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0762451483/ref=pd_luc_rh_bxgy_01_02_t_img_lh?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

For getting better at the saxophone as an instrument -- playing mechanics like finger technique, tone production, air support, tongue position, articulation, etc -- there's no substitute for a private teacher combined with lots of individual study and practice of recordings. Charlie Parker learned how to play by thoroughly absorbing a few records by his heroes (Lester Young, Coleman Hawkins, etc) and then developing his own ideas from there. It's a good way to go.

In terms of practical theory that'll help with improvisation, writing, and just generally understanding and internalizing how things work in jazz (and most American music for that matter), I always recommend Dan Haerle's book "The Jazz Language." It's skinny, inexpensive, and extremely well put together, with everything you need to know about modern harmony as a gigging musician. Dan is a fantastic teacher and musician, and his book is a staple in many university jazz programs. It's worth a look!

how much time are you looking to devote? any mediums in particular that you want (documentaries, books, lectures, etc)? are you already into jazz or are you new to the genre? any specific musicians instruments or styles that you want to learn more about in particular? without knowing an of that.

1. if you aren't new to jazz, start from the beginning - its new orleans blues/ragtime roots. if you are new or get bored with it before things get interesting for you (early jazz isnt everyones thing), figure out what you like and go from there
   
2. the ken burns jazz documentary series is a great place to start if you acknowledge its limitations and imperfections (he heavily relies on a couple of musicians and musical experts, its a general survey that doesn't dive into detail on any one person genre or period and doesn't do a good job of covering jazz into the 60s and beyond).
   
3. listen to tons and tons of jazz. duhhhhh.
   
4. im personally a fan of allmusic's guide to jazz for reviews on specific albums. youll find yourself coming back to it often. the essays and lists at the end of the book are so so so key. the list of essential jazz records for any fan is really important. this isnt for a 'story of jazz from the beginning' but it is a great resource for if you have questions about a specific artist or record. if you're curious what the most essential theolonious monk or whoever else recordings are, this is the book to get.
   
5. for a history of jazz book i recommend this book, though it has its limitations as well

Root For The Villain: Rap, Bull$hit, and a Celebration of Failure by J-Zone (who, if you're familiar with his music, is equally funny in his book)

Hip Hop Family Tree by Ed Piskor (it's a graphic novel focusing on the early days of hip hop done in the style of 90s Image comics)

How to Rap: The Art and Science of the Hip-Hop MC by Paul Edwards (this is full of interviews with some of the greatest of all time discussing every single aspect of rapping)

There's also The Wu-Tang Manual and The Tao of Wu, both by RZA and both very good for Wu-Tang fans.

If you think she may be interested in books on specific albums, the 33 1/3 series has quite a few on some of the genres greatest albums: Illmatic, Paul's Boutique, Donuts, People's Instinctive Travels And the Paths of Rhythm, It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. She may enjoy Born to Use Mics: Reading Nas's Illmatic, which is a more scholarly approach to Illmatic, although admittedly not for everyone (if critical theory isn't her thing probably pass on this one).

You're gonna have to deal with teensy bit of math regardless (sorry), but here's one I've personally really enjoyed:

The Audio Expert: Everything You Need to Know About Audio by Ethan Winer

There's another really good one that I can't remember off the top of my head. I'll respond later when I have the chance to look it up.

edit: Also, Simon Cann writes great books on synthesis!

Have you ever read "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream" by Dave McGowan? It's a must read for everyone to get insight on how these "movements" are created for control. Much like Antifa today. The Hippy movement was a creation of the MK Ultra mind control program....which certainly runs them like cults.

If you haven't read the book yet, I highly recommend it. It's fascinating, especially for those who lived through that period of time.

https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Thank you, spread the info far and wide.

I've seen Jan's stuff (gnostic media). I'm a fan. It's good work. I generally agree with most of his assertions except that T. McKenna was an agent. If he was, then his role was benign and simply to corral triphead and psychonauts into one forum.

A lot of his cia-psychedelic movement is elaborated in David McGowan's book "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream". It's an interesting read.

I'm not sure! A quick amazon search showed this, but it appears to not be exactly the same, and the reviews are pretty bad lol

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1847326641/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1426640524&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=red+hot+chili+peppers+book

I got this book for like 70% off when Borders was closing down, and I can definitely recommend it, it's really cool!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/006135192X/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1426640524&sr=8-3&keywords=red+hot+chili+peppers+book&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

Lots of good info already in this thread but came here to say this. Connecting Chords with Linear Harmony by Bert Ligon is worth checking out. He lays a good framework for a harmomically specific approach to improvisation. Tons of examples from many different jazz players are used to demonstrate his ideas. If anything, its full of tasty licks but there's a good method approach to be had as well.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0793561930/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1324440326&sr=8-1

Yeah she's a raver too, but I think she's too uncoordinated to use gloves haha.
I found a new revamped edition of Energy Flash: A Journey Through Rave Music and Dance Culture on Amazon, and I think she will really enjoy it.

Thanks for your input!

The record display could be neat, but it wouldn't be my first choice to be honest. With a $20 budget you could get her The Complete Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics which is a really awesome collection of (you guessed it) academic annotations of all Grateful Dead songs.

Another solid choice is Jerry on Jerry, which was just published. It's full of unreleased interviews with the Man himself.

OR if you're feeling ripe with the charitable spirit, you could always make a donation to The Jerry Garcia Foundation.

https://www.amazon.de/Complete-Annotated-Grateful-Dead-Lyrics/dp/1501123327/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=grateful+dead+lyrics&qid=1568931636&sr=8-1 Amazon has pretty much a complete collection of every piece of Grateful Dead related literature and usually for super cheap, I'm going through Phil's biography at the moment, but couldn't contain myself from buying this book when I saw it.
Get the hardcover, the quality is amazing and the wrap with the skeleton on the cover is beautiful

You need to branch out into harmony. Theory is just the nuts and bolts, harmony is how everything works and relates. Any serious study of harmony necessitates a good working knowledge of written music because then you can see on paper how the notes move and how they relate (or don't relate) to the key. Jazz harmony has a few of its own rules added to classical Western harmony but the basics are the same. This is the book I used in college, it does a great job, especially for people who are not jazz players (like myself). It does require a rudimentary theory knowledge to be beneficial.

Check out this page from musicnotes which allows you to view the first page for free!

I can also recommend this book of sheet music dedicated to Kid A and [this one] (http://www.amazon.com/Piano-Songbook-Radiohead-Radioheads-Biggest/dp/0739077848/ref=sr_1_1) of Radiohead's greatest hits (although surprisingly Kid A isn't in the latter).

I actually have been self teaching myself the basics of jazz using two good resources with some input from my teacher (which does not focus on jazz). First of all Improvising Blues Piano by Tim Richards is really good, with a focus obviously in improvisation. After doing part of that book to understand the basics he recommends moving up to Exploring Jazz Piano 1. Since you have 18 years of classical experience you're probably going to be familiarized with most of the concepts and you can just focus on understanding the style and ideas for improvisation. Honestly I find it very helpful and throughout Richards has "assignments" you can do to further expand. Also in the songs themselves there is a reccomendation of notes you can use within the scale you're working on to improvise. Very complete overall.

http://www.amazon.com/Improvising-Blues-Piano-Tim-Richards/dp/0946535973/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421076430&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=impprovising+blues+piano

http://www.amazon.com/EXPLORING-HARMONY-TECHNIQUE-IMPROV-Schott/dp/190245524X/ref=sr_1_sc_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1421076430&sr=8-3-spell&keywords=impprovising+blues+piano

Long story short: buy this one. I own it and it's fantastic. The selection of songs is amazing. Highlights like Last Flowers to the Hospital and How I Made My Millions are included. Chords are accurate, as well as the keys. Especially if you're an experienced player, you'll have lots of fun with it.

i'm a huge zappa fan and i just got an MT-68, so i was pretty excited to see this, so you'll understand how funny i found it when he fired that thing up and played the preset accompaniment and not "G-Spot Tornado." i miss frank a lot. his autobiography is one of the best books you'll ever read, even if you don't like his music, i highly recommend it
http://www.amazon.com/Real-Frank-Zappa-Book/dp/0671705725/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421169586&sr=8-1

Dave McGowan's amazing "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream"

http://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122

It's both eye-opening and highly entertaining. Dark, but funny. Both well-researched and convincing in its analysis. The guy is a genius.

This may not be what you're looking for, but my girlfriend gave me this for my birthday, and I love it. I've learned almost every song in there and they sound great. For anyone interested, it contains these songs:

• Creep
  
• Everything in Its Right Place
  
• Exit Music (For a Film)
  
• Fake Plastic Trees
  
• Fog Again
  
• High and Dry
  
• How I Made My Millions
  
• I Want None of This
  
• Karma Police
  
• Knives Out
  
• Last Flowers to the Hospital
  
• Life in a Glasshouse
  
• Like Spinning Plates
  
• Lucky
  
• Motion Picture Soundtrack
  
• My Iron Lung
  
• No Surprises
  
• Paranoid Android
  
• A Punch Up at a Wedding
  
• Pyramid Song
  
• Sail to the Moon
  
• Sit Down. Stand Up.
  
• Street Spirit (Fade Out)
  
• Subterranean Homesick Alien
  
• Videotape
  
• We Suck Young Blood
  
• A Wolf at the Door.
  
  Before I got this though, I would just Google sheet music of the song I wanted and usually could find the first page or so of it, and work the rest out by ear.

This looks awesome. I love this kind of extended criticism. Though they don't have very good reviews I thought the 33 1/3rd's dedicated to Kid A and OK Computer were at least worthwhile - you'd probably find them interesting if you haven't read them already.

http://www.amazon.com/Radioheads-Computer-Thirty-Three-Third/dp/0826416632

http://www.amazon.com/Radioheads-Kid-33-1-3/dp/0826423434/

The Heavy Metal Fun Time Book would be awesome to color/fill out with the hubby :) Thanks for the contest.

X-ray and Vav

If ever there is tomorrow when we're not together... there is something you must always remember. you are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think. But the most important thing is, even if we're apart... I'll always be with you. -Whinny the Pooh

My favorite. item.

Too wordy? Unlikely. Go directly to Simon Reynolds' Energy Flash, young man, and report back.

Here's my ten cents.

It's a well researched overview of the inherent tension that has long existed between people who want to bring electronic music to Black Rock City and people who would variously prefer there was a lot less of it.

Anyone who cites Adrian Roberts from Piss Clear as an academic source is OK by me.

The paragraph or two dissecting "douchebag" as a playa insult directed at EMD fans is, unfortunately, ludicrous.

I don't expect any reportage to be all-inclusive, and the Dancetronaut controversy is as good a place as any to illustrate that these tensions, rooted in the mid-90's have a modern-day equivalent, but I feel that time has passed the author by, and the lack of any mention (unless I missed it) of Robot Heart, and their aesthetic (more grounded in Burning Man than the relatively-mainstream, white-jumpsuited Dancetronauts by far, yet more divisive, in more nuanced and interesting ways) is a bit of a glaring omission.

Based on the mutual friends we apparently have on the Facebook, I'm making the broad assumption that the author is strong on psytrance, as a participant (name-checks the Blue Room, which was ground zero for me at Burning Man circa 1999) , but has relied too much on internet reporting of White Ocean and Dancetronauts, in his coverage of recent years, and failed to wrestle with the socio-cultural reverberations of the allegedly-elitist deep house beast.

Still, that said, a good read.

I'd recommend The Jazz Piano Book or The Jazz Theory Book, both by Mark Levine. There's a ton of great stuff in both, and they'll teach you how jazz musicians conceive of how they play—not to mention give you a foundation to play pretty much any popular style that strikes your fancy.

I didn't get to finish reading this because I could never find time but until I stopped I as really enjoying Energy Flash. It gives a pretty good coverage of the history mixed with the author's experiences.

band t-shirts are the key to my heart, but that can always get really awkward if you happen to buy the wrong size (in either direction), so make damn sure you know her shirt size.

also the Heavy Metal Fun Time Activity Book is on my wish list, but I don't think that's gender specific. but honestly, what really is?

off the top of my head:

• Bowie In Berlin covers Bowie & Iggy's time in Berlin; really nothing new or groundbreaking, just a deeper look into Bowie's Life at that time.
  
• Manson - Long Hard Road what i thought was going to be fluff and merch was actually a good look into his Life pre-Manson
  
• Scar Tissue the essential "did you read it, bro??"
  
• Three Dog Nightmare - a nice slice of rock excess
  
• A Long Time Gone - a good Asshole AutoBio of David Crosby
  
  and most recently:
  
• Modern Girl by Carrie Brownstein is better than expected
  

Haven't read Last Night..., but Simon Reynolds' Energy Flash was quite a nice overview for me. It's not short (around 550 pages) but a very good look at electronic music from the '70s to about 2006.

ishkur's guide is the best entry point imo. if you can, I'd then suggest getting this book (http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Flash-Journey-Through-Culture/dp/1593764073)-- seriously the most comprehensive history of electronic music and rave culture out there. There are some cool genre specific documentaries on youtube which you can typically find just by searching some subgenre name + 'documentary'. Then the Dance Music Guide is a good reference for newer genres.

You gotta learn your scales, man. One other thing I see recomended a lot is solo transcribing. As for books, I really like [mark levine's] (http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Theory-Book-Mark-Levine/dp/1883217040) for the theory, and this one, but since you're a bass player, you might get more out of a book specifically tailored to your instrument.

But the really most important thing is to practice improvisation whenever you can, preferably in a group. Maybe you can organize a small jazz combo where you live, or join classes with other aspiring jazz musicians like yourself?

["Scar Tissue"] (http://www.amazon.com/Scar-Tissue-Anthony-Kiedis/dp/1401307450?ie=UTF8&keywords=scar%20tissue&qid=1465428729&ref_=sr_1_1&s=books&sr=1-1), Anthony Kiedis' autobiography. His life is just crazy and interesting. ["If Chins Could Kill"] (http://www.amazon.com/If-Chins-Could-Kill-Confessions/dp/0312291450), Bruce Campbell's autobiography. A great read if you're a fan of his work, it's also really funny.

Books:

Energy Flash: A Journey Through Rave Music and Dance Culture

The Underground is Massive: How Electronic Dance Music Conquered America

Techno Rebels: The Renegades of Electronic Funk

Altered State: The Story of Ecstasy Culture and Acid House

All Crews: Journeys Through Jungle / Drum and Bass Culture

Keyboard Presents the Evolution of Electronic Dance Music

Future Days: Krautrock and the Building of Modern Germany

Last Night a DJ Saved my Life

Turn the Beat Around: The Secret History of Disco

The Last Party: Studio 54, Disco, and The Culture of the Night

Reading music is a habit more than skill, so i don't think you need any resources on that apart from the basics you'll find anywhere on the internet. As for learning actual jazz piano, i really liked Tim Richards' "Exploring jazz piano" vol 1 and 2. They're "project" based, every new song introduces a new concept and has basic to advanced exercises to build on those concepts. It also introduces improv and music theory straight away, which is a much more fun approach in my opinion.

https://www.amazon.com/EXPLORING-HARMONY-TECHNIQUE-IMPROV-Schott/dp/190245524X

I was thinking of the audiobook version of this book. Now that I go back and listen now, it's pretty dry. It's like a textual analysis of the finished product, rather than breaking down the recording process. Idk, if you have a free Audible trial due (I think you can do one per year) it's worth a listen.

I agree with some of the classic albums that have been mentioned. I would add that you should check out John Coltrane's "Giant Steps," and just about any Charlie Parker compilation on top of "Kind of Blue" and "Time Out."

Really though, what you will like is very idiosyncratic. For example, because I play guitar and came to jazz through fusion, my favorite artists are guitarists: Wes Montgomery, Grant Green, Emily Remler, etc. So your tastes will matter a whole lot.

To go with your listening, I would suggest you get a copy of Jazz 101 (http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-101-Complete-Learning-Loving/dp/0786884967) and just start searching on YouTube for famous recordings of standards.

Then, once you've finished Jazz 101, get a copy of Giddins and DeVeaux's Jazz (http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Gary-Giddins/dp/0393068617) and go through it.

If you are still interested in the history of jazz after going through those two books, Ted Gioia has written a book titled "The History of Jazz," which is on my shelf but I have yet to read.

This book has some mindblowing stuff on Zappa. I would link to the free version but his site just shows a white screen.
Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream
http://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0060987464/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1453577620&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=long+hard+road+out+of+hell&dpPl=1&dpID=51W6Z5ndjBL&ref=plSrch

There ya go! I forgot about Poe. I got a three book collection as a graduation present that was the complete works of poe, one was the complete works of Kate Chopin, and the third was Herman Melville. Poe was always the best. The cask of amontillado was my favorite because how terrifying is being walled up and left to die?! Annabelle Lee is always nice, as well.

I like this book, it's pretty informative.

It's pretty theory heavy, so you should still try and listen to a lot.

It's ok to be withdrawn and to dislike other people. Many others feel the same, including me. I hate other people but can cope being near and around them. Empathy isn't something that's natural. It's a learned skill that takes time to build. If it were natural we wouldn't have wars or even violence. If you truly want to change it starts with opening up your mind.

My recommendation is to start with reading a couple biographies to learn what it means to think like another person. Since you're into music I suggest Scar Tissue. From there work backwards and find people with the most clashing ideals and read their biographies. Learning how someone you don't agree with thinks is easier with a guide and a biography is exactly that.

She's probably referring to The Complete Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics

Not that expensive and WELL worth the price, trust me :)

that's a good move! I have been working on accurate sheet music for anything I love and can't find...still working on making them correct. PM me and I can help out. These books are the best so far:

https://www.amazon.com/Moon-Shaped-Piano-Voice-Guitar/dp/0571539602/ref=sr_1_8?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1483536765&sr=1-8

https://www.amazon.com/Piano-Songbook-Radiohead-Radioheads-Biggest/dp/0739077848/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1483536765&sr=1-1

https://www.amazon.com/Radiohead-Kid-Piano-Vocal-Guitar/dp/0757992471/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1483536765&sr=1-7

The '28 Biggest Hits' is a treasure trove, though some mistakes. AMSP is golden. Kid A is a cheap publisher but accurate.

This was in my old university library. Also one of the lecturers wrote a small 'dissertation' book on OK Computer.

http://www.amazon.com/Radioheads-Computer-Thirty-Three-Third/dp/0826416632

To be fair a lot of people misunderstood the book, but it isn't an all out and out great read.

To those who have only heard his wacky stuff: give this a listen. Watermelon in Easter Hay. The first song I had a real emotional connection with. I teared up listening to it the first time, and almost still do. In part bdue to the context on the album Joe's Garage, but even out of context the song is just beautiful.

If you are a Zappa fan I highly recommend reading The Real Frank Zappa Book, his autobiography, if you haven't already. Gives some insight into his though processes and what he went through to do what he did.

If you're interested in Marilyn Manson, check out his autobiography. It's decently written, and is a pretty cool insight into the man.

That is very true. When I think of audiophiles, I think of people who think cables sound better one way around than the other, people that ignore scientific tests and argue that null tests can't trump human ears (which is essentially saying that 1 minus 1 does not give you 0). Other people think that audiophiles are people that really care about audio, and in the mix people get very confused about what is true and what is not.

There is a LOT of misinformation going around about audio on the internet, specifically digital audio. A lot of it is to sell equipment/software that is 'superior', a lot of it is people believing and repeating what they're heard from companies trying to sell a product. A lot of companies willingly promote these ideas, a lot of them don't fight back against them cause it might damage their marketing.

If you really want to understand audio and cut through the BS, check out a book called The Audio Expert: Everything You Need to Know About Audio by Ethan Winer. He debunks a lot of hard held beliefs from certain 'audiophiles' with scientific tests. Well worth the read if you want to understand what matters in audio, and what doesn't.

I highly recommend this book https://www.amazon.com/EXPLORING-HARMONY-TECHNIQUE-IMPROV-Schott/dp/190245524X

It is better than the Levine book for a beginner/early intermediate because it goes deep into theory with exercises and has you improvising from the jump. The Levine book is great, but it's more of a reference book for advanced players.

I was just about to recommend this as well!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0826416632/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_tqu-ybRRP22TX

I don't understand why it's so poorly reviewed; I really enjoyed it!

You should read his biography! It's a most interesting book which I highly recomend if you'd like to read about his youth.

The book at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/The-Long-Hard-Road-Hell/dp/0060987464

Oh man, i had the same question just a couple of days ago. Here's what I would suggest (pretty much fundamentals!):

[DK's Grateful Dead: The Illustrated Trip] (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/grateful-dead-maurice-waite/1120824345?ean=9781465440082#productInfoTabs)

This one is a 500 page biography of the band's journey on the Golden Road from the Sixties to now (this one happens to be the slightly updated 50th anniversary edition as well.) Covers a lot of details towards major events/concerts, the phases they went through, every release and side project(s) the band members did throughout the 70s, 80s & now. Thousands of pictures as well, & the foreword is written by Robert Hunter who helped write lyrics for the band!

[The Complete Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics] (https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Annotated-Grateful-Dead-Lyrics/dp/1501123327) Also compiled by Robert Hunter with David Dodd, this book provides the lyrics to every song from every album, with all the unique context & the whole process of creating the songwriting for these tunes. Plus there's a lot of original GD-inspired artwork! This one is again the 50th anniversary edition, but the older version with a completely different cover is basically the same :)

I have the Radiohead Songbook. Interestingly, as well as being made up of classic hits (Creep, Paranoid Android), it also contains more obscure pieces that were written for piano (How I Made my Millions, I Want None of This).

Some of the non-piano pieces sound good, like Karma Police and Sail to the Moon. My Iron Lung transcribes surprisingly well. Some really don't work, like Creep and Subterranean Homesick Alien (though the bassline given by the book implies completely the wrong rhythm).

>All the VPRO documentaries.

This was gonna be my answer. Also, OP, if you don't mind reading, the Oral/Visual History is fantastic and features commentary from almost every member that's ever been in this revolving door of a band. Beautifully constructed.

If you're really starting from scratch, try to find the Behind The Music somewhere online. It's outdated (like almost 20 years old) and super condensed but it'll give you the basics.

Zappa's autobiography is pretty good.

Fans, and even non-fans will also enjoy The Real Frank Zappa Book by FZ/Peter Occhiogrosso. Published in 1990. Good stuff.

My bias will show, but this one was by one of my professors and he was an amazing teacher.

https://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Language-Theory-Composition-Improvisation/dp/0760400148

Read his autobiography. It's pretty dated now but gives a good understanding into the mind of Brian Warner.

Check out The Tao of Wu or The Wu-Tang Manual by RZA. very cool and interesting

EDIT: forgot to mention DMX's autobiography its reeeaaally dark tho

My last teacher recommended "Exploring Jazz Piano" by Tim Richards as a great book to get into Jazz. The author has a similar book on Blues (Improvising Blues Piano).

The 1960's "counter-culture" music scene was rife with military brats, you should check out some of Dave McGowan's work on the subject. Intelligence has been recruiting people for roles in popular culture for a long time.

We Jam Econo is truly awesome.

I would add:

afro punk

american hardcore

D.O.A. A Rite of Passage

Kill Your Idols

The Real Frank Zappa Book

Rotten: No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs

No One Here Gets Out Alive

X: The Unheard Music

And, for fun:

Heavy Metal Parking Lot - I actually went to high school with some of the kids interviewed here.

I got this book a few days ago and it looks very solid. I'm still at the level where the first few pages are giving me grief, but it all looks achievable.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Improvising-Blues-Piano-easy-grasp/dp/0946535973

The two volumes of jazz material in the same series are intended to follow on from this book as well.

I would love the heavy metal coloring book on my main list and I think /u/skinslip1 would too!

Life is about using the whole box of crayons.

Clicky

His autobiography "The Long Hard Road Out of Hell" is still my favourite book. It was written shortly after Antichrist Superstar, so it doesn't follow-up, but his childhood and adolescence is very, very interesting.

Not a stretch for him to play that character, since he was constantly dealing and hosting parties all night before Anthony had to wake up for school. Source: Kiedis autobiography

This is a great book
http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Gary-Giddins/dp/0393068617/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_4

Do I have to pick only one thing? Because there's quite a few, aha.

• Key Ring: Pentagram
  
• Funko Freddy Krueger Pop
  
• Funko Jason Voorhees Pop
  
• Funko Captain Spaulding Pop
  
• Heavy Metal Fun Time Activity Book
  
• Metallica Monopoly (Does that count?!)
  
• Creepy Doll Head Salt and Pepper Shakers

Responding to a Zappa quote with another Zappa quote. You should read his book, he was a tremendously fascinating man.

If you want to understand what the Wu are talking about read these two books. If you have any interest in the Clan, read these two books.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Wu-Tang-Manual-RZA/dp/1594480184/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407615132&sr=8-1&keywords=wu+manual

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=tao%20of%20wu&sprefix=tao+of+w%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Atao%20of%20wu&ajr=2

Author Dave McGowan wrote a book, Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, about the nest of creativity that was the rock scene in and around Laurel Canyon in the days of Zappa, The Doors, and Joni Mitchell. Lots of strange occurrences happening in those days, maybe more than mere coincidence can explain. Here's the website

Tons of now-classic rock came from Laurel Canyon, by the way. Even if you think McGowan is a kook, his book is a fascinating read.

for general audio stuff I really enjoyed https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Expert-Everything-Need-About/dp/0240821009

I would recommend Scar Tissue by Anthony Kiedis (Red Hot Chili Peppers singer/original member) and L.A. Son by Roy Choi (chef/Kogi truck mastermind). Both autobiographies tell stories about how growing up in LA shaped who they are.

Today is a badass day because ninjas, ninjas everywhere. I was awoken suddenly by a super sweet guitar solo with a hint of bass. I rolled out of my super comfy bed and ended up in the floor, ...cause gravity. I ate rocks for breakfast with a battle axe in my left hand and a pot on my head, cause helms are hard to come by. On my way to work, I ran into a rude ass wizard. He said to me, "Someone has to deal with all these runaway ninjas. Put that axe to good use". I *swarthily replied, "Silly wizard, you cant use a one armed short axe against ninjas, its not hit capped to counter act their +210 agility. Noob.", and we then decided to get drunk and buy lapdances with a dwarf we picked up at a gas station. I really wished we had done something about those ninjas and all their shadowy shenanigans with a radical vengeance instead. Something hit me on the back of my head. It was a boot. Can you believe that? I reached into my back pocket and pulled out a phone to instgram it. Because really, who throws a shoe? It really belonged to the dwarf. He gave it to me in exchange for my battleaxe.

One day I will get around to those pesky ninjas with extreme prejudice. It will be a battle of legendary ...legend and a little bit of romance. I hope tomorrow is filled with strippers and booze** just like today.

His book with Niel Strauss is a fun read.

http://www.amazon.com/Long-Hard-Road-Out-Hell/dp/0060987464/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279503654&sr=8-1

According to The Wu Tang Manual RZA explains that people get that line wrong a lot, but that it is indeed "had second hands" as in second hand clothes.

You should read his book, its really good.

Aflred All in One - A reliable go to for the complete beginner to get them using both hands, reading music, understanding chords and keys etc.

Improvising Blues Piano - Great book for intermediate to later beginners looking at exploring contemporary styles.

Exploring Jazz Piano - Similar to the blues one but using jazz which requires a higher level of complexity.

You're new here. Welcome, come see how deep the rabbit hole goes ....

https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122

WUUUUUUUUU!

If you haven't already, you should definitely read RZA's book: http://www.amazon.ca/The-Wu-Tang-Manual-RZA/dp/1594480184

How about the Complete Annotated Lyrics book? I love my copy and will just sit down and flip through it while listening to a show.

The Complete Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics https://www.amazon.com/dp/1501123327/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_8wC4DbTEM8E3D

Audio Expert is what I would recommend.

http://www.amazon.ca/The-Audio-Expert-Everything-About/dp/0240821009

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The Dave Grohl Story. Maybe I had high hopes that it would be as interesting as Scar Tissue but so far it is an extremely in-depth history of hardcore punk in Washington with a few mentions of Grohl thrown in.

EDIT: Forgot to say read Scar Tissue. Absolutely incredible, even if you're not a Chili Peppers fan. That man has lived!

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For those interested, you should read this if you haven't already.

It's a fantastic book that's very addicting to read. And cheap!

Strangely I've never really listened to his compositions, though I've used his piano solo book excessively. Thanks for posting this!

This book has been recommended many times on this sub and it's full of ideas for both hands:

https://www.amazon.com/Improvising-Blues-Piano-Tim-Richards/dp/0946535973

TL;DR - I don't know

I have this one and it is great but definitely too hard for me (i am a beginner player). Though that just means things will take time (and I am currently putting a Coldplay and Elliott Smith song ahead of finally learning PS, MPS, or Fog(Again).

You've got Morning Bell on yours though.. I am jealous!

Maybe talking about the book version of this website: http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/

Think this is the latest edition from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Annotated-Grateful-Dead-Lyrics/dp/1501123327/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1479846335&sr=1-1

Yep, The Wu-Tang Manual, written by RZA.

Got it for christmas, still haven't got to read all the way through it. The stuff I've seen in there so far is dope, though.

He's got another book that's a sequel to this one or something, but I ain't read it and I'm too high/lazy to go find a link for it

You won't regret it.

If anyone hasn't read it I highly suggest reading his autobiography. I've read it a couple times, it's crazy interesting.

David McGowan uncoverd this years ago before he was killed

I am on a really big Frank Zappa kick right now. I just finished his autobiography and was enraptured with how he viewed the world and music and I started to really get into his music.

This one is probably the most eye opening book available.

The author converted the site into a book for sale

https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122

RHCP are/were famous for this.

See: Kiedis' biography.

From memory I think this book was quite interesting... and had a lot of technical information in it

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Radioheads-OK-Computer-33/dp/0826416632

I actually have a heavy metal colouring/activity book. They do exist!

http://www.amazon.ca/Heavy-Metal-Time-Activity-Book/dp/155022798X

Try here http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/

or in book form http://www.amazon.com/dp/1501123327/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687622&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0000009O8&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0424C49PG0DD9SETDG0N

or from the man himself

http://www.amazon.com/Box-Rain-Lyrics-1965-1993-Penguin/dp/0140134514/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1462560418&sr=1-1&keywords=robert+hunter

Anthony Kiedis explained in his autobiography that while on tour in his early 20's he had sex with a 14 year old girl. He didn't know she was 14 at first but even after he found out he continued to have sex with her. She stayed with him for several days then he finally put her on a bus and sent her back home to her parents. Her dad was a cop or something.

Start with this, a full on telling of what really happens in the business. Here is the end.

https://i.imgur.com/BiUU27K.jpg

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Frank-Zappa-Book/dp/0671705725

I found out this is all part of a book:
http://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122

And there's more parts available on this site (which includes more images and videos!):
http://informationfarm.blogspot.com.au/2010/02/inside-lc-strange-but-mostly-true-story.html

Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon by David McGowan

Here is an interview with the author: Sofia Smallstorm Interviews Dave McGowan

Read scar tissue

I have this book btw. http://www.amazon.com/Connecting-Chords-Linear-Harmony-Jazz/dp/0793561930

Yes

'Murica

Link For the lazy...

Mikrokosmos: 153 Progressive Piano Pieces : New Definitive Edition https://www.amazon.fr/dp/1423493044/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IxKUCb045MNEP

Here is the link

Have you ever read [the wu-tang manual](http://www.The.com/ Wu-Tang Manual https://www.amazon.com/dp/1594480184/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_1JWVDb79R1WJ1)

Weird scenes inside Laurel Canyon

https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2GjY8DN-7I

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/classic_rock_conspiracy_theory_weird_scenes_inside_the_canyon

Read his book: http://www.amazon.com/Long-Hard-Road-Out-Hell/dp/0060987464/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342806655&sr=1-1&keywords=marilyn+manson

Look into rock n roll and the laurel canyon community

https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122


https://www.conspiracyschool.com/blog/laurel-canyon-sex-drugs-and-aliens

https://open.spotify.com/episode/58H5HM7fNtDbbRRbRVfyDY

Laurel Canyon, in Los Angeles. This is the book:
https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527092729&sr=8-1&keywords=Dave+McGowan+Laurel+Canyon

Cant pick just one So I'll name a few

1. A Time Too Kill-John Grisham
   
2. Scar Tissue-Anthony Keidis(Autobiography of the lead Singer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers)
   
3. Different Seasons-Stephen King
   
4. Back In The Day: My Life And Times With Tupac Shakur- Darrin Keith Bastfield
   
5. That was then This is Now-S.E. Hinton
   
6. I Am Jackie Chan: My Life in Action-Jackie Chan (Autobiography)
   

Buy this book. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0793561930

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0671705725?pc_redir=1404220645&robot_redir=1

here is the link where i got it man
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/155022798X/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Energy Flash: A Journey Through Rave Music and Dance Culture is the textbook for the electronic music class at my university.

Here is the mobile version of your link

Anybody who likes this story should read his autobiography. It's full of absolutely crazy shit, and yet he comes across as a really intelligent, normal guy.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Long-Hard-Road-Hell/dp/0060987464

I WILL HANG IT ON MY DORM WALL

IT WILL MAKE MY ROOM FEEL AT HOME

Inspiration ;D

Hugglewhomp indeed o_o

Apparently he is quite forthcoming in Complete annotated Grateful Dead lyrics about many of his lyrics. (Sorry for the Amazon link, I’m lazy)

Anyone read RZA's books? Some interesting shit in there if you want to know more about them and how it all started etc.

The Wu Tang Manual
http://www.amazon.com/Wu-Tang-Manual-RZA/dp/1594480184

The Tao of Wu
http://www.amazon.com/Tao-Wu-RZA/dp/1594488851

Is it this one?

I've got a copy too! An ex-girlfriend of mine got it for me while we were dating... I kinda miss that girl, she really got me...

I wouldn't doubt it. I read the Wu-Tang manual and RZA talks about how GhostFace was someone you wouldn't want to mess with.

I'm paraphrasing cause I don't have the book on me, but he said there was one instance where they got in a fight and Ghost was holding two guy's heads underneath each arm and was about to fight a third dude.

Amazon link to the book (was a great read): http://www.amazon.com/Wu-Tang-Manual-RZA/dp/1594480184

this is the official story... evidence exists however that the military actually synthesized LSD from LSA(i think... LS-something... cant remember) based on Hoffmans previous work.... even if this isnt true however, it is clear that Hoffman did have a relationship with the US military, the OSS, and later the CIA....

I havent looked at this info in a while and was trying to find sources for another guy earlier but he pissed me off with his ridicule... cant remember the authors name.... ill try to search thru some youtube channels for the interviews i remember he was in and get his name.... ill post some links in this comment latter for you.... the guy really did some indepth digging into this and provides source material... check back at this comment in a hour or two....

Found it: http://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122 - the book focuses primarily on the 60s but includes information on Hoffman.

One of the most influential Berlin night clubs of the past 2 decades, which holds similar ideals today much like most of the well known clubs that were born around techno music in Germany:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berghain

The birthplace of House music in Chicago "The Warehouse was patronized primarily by gay black and Latino men":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouse_(nightclub)

Recommended books you can read to learn about the history of music:

https://www.amazon.com/Klang-Familie-Felix-Denk/dp/3738604294

https://www.amazon.com/Techno-Rebels-Renegades-Electronic-Painted/dp/0814334385

https://www.amazon.com/Last-Night-DJ-Saved-Life/dp/0802146104/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.com/Energy-Flash-Journey-Through-Culture/dp/1593764073/ref=pd_sim_14_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1593764073&pd_rd_r=S1TWN7HDAJJY3Z2QN4BG&pd_rd_w=Zk210&pd_rd_wg=Dqe5r&psc=1&refRID=S1TWN7HDAJJY3Z2QN4BG

https://www.amazon.com/Electrochoc-Laurent-Garnier/dp/1906615918

A snippet from the above book by Laurent Garnier regarding Detroit, the birthplace of Techno music:

"Like Manchester in the early 1800s, during the golden age of the British Industrial Revolution, Detroit also became the great American city of industry. Several thousand blue-collar workers came from all over the US to work at the Ford automobile plant, while the black workers were confined to the foundries.

In 1959 Motor Town gave birth to Motown, the cultural pride of the black community. Then the battle for civil rights broke out in the US, and in July 1967 Detroit experienced three days of bloody rioting. The white community fled to the suburbs and the ghetto grew bigger and bigger. And finally, in the 1980s, there was an explosion in drug abuse, especially of crack, in these same ghettos.

Detroit techno music tells the story of all of this hardship. And within this music one can feel the life force that refuses to be put down. Words are of no importance. Everything is expressed within a few notes, repeated ad infinitum. Detroit techno is made of metal, glass and steel. When you close your eyes you can hear, far off in the distance, then closer and closer, the echo of crying. Like in jazz and blues, Detroit techno transfigures suffering. This authenticity of spirit has no price.

'In 1981, a record – "Sharevari" – was released that would play a pivotal role in the history of Detroit techno. "Sharevari" is the very first techno record from Detroit, but as yet nobody had used the term "techno," it simply didn't exist.

Mike Banks, alias Mad Mike, is the true soul of Detroit techno. He is an urban guerrilla, a man haunted by the suffering of his city. Mike has chosen music to fight against the problems of daily life and takes his inspiration from the Afro-American struggle of the 1960s

Through his record label Underground Resistance, Mike Banks spreads a guerrilla philosophy whose targets are the major record labels, the American segregationist system, and despair in the ghetto.

Mad Mike pursues his causes – to get young people away from crime and drugs, to rally against the economic disaster that is Detroit – and music.

UR is the continuation of a long struggle and we chose existing technologies to make this struggle move forward. Through UR, we wanted to express everything through sound; no need for pictures. We were against everything you have to accept in order to be famous.

We were just coming out of the 80s, a time when many black artists had had their noses done or their skin whitened. Fuck that! If a guy doesn't know what you look like, he won't care, as long as he likes your music. It's Detroit and the whole black experience in America that gave birth to Underground Resistance.

We both had experience of deals with majors in which we had been swindled. That is where the name Underground Resistance came from. Literally, to create a resistance to the "overground."

What's really remarkable is that I have to go out of my way to explain and showcase all of this to you, when this is something that is known amongst most fanatics of electronic music.

Much like Germany had its own sub-culture tied to political movement, so did Chicago and Detroit.

It's like I'm talking to a person saying "The sky is blue" while said person refuses to look up and constantly spews things like "No! Wrong! Wrong! It's green! Prove it!"

Why do you think Punk Rock is named after a whole sub-culture, just out of pure coincidence? It's laughable that I have to explain such a simple concept to someone so ignorant. It's like you talk about things that are 100% obvious and make yourself the clown of the room while genuinely refusing to acknowledge it, it's very cringeworthy.

I'm going to block you now because you're a prime example of the kind of people /r/edm is filled with and why no electronic music fanatic actually wants to remotely even deal with people of your kind, you've demonstrated that point very well. It's laughable how you refuse to educate yourself in any way and then you come on these boards with a hostile attitude dismissing things that have been known for multiple decades because of how dense and ignorant you are, from people who have a much better understanding of what they are saying. Electronic music is 40 years old now, do you genuinely think that nobody has touched on these subjects beforehand? Have a look at the list I linked to you and do yourself a favor and stop being hostile with your replies as long as you remain ignorant, you're really embarrassing yourself and most other EDM listeners with your example.