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I can recommend the grow light I own, this 300W one, I love it to death honestly. I will warn you that the goose neck growlights also found on Amazon are not very powerful at all, they're usually what first comes up when you search for them so they're often bought. But many people on this subreddit don't recommend them because they're so weak. These types of bulbs (and these ones) will also work but usually need multiple pointed on the plants to achieve good results, a reflector/deflector usually helps with the bulbs, too. These lights also work very well but are rather large and work better for a bigger collection. Succulents can handle heat, not like super excessive but they will be fine in like even the 100's F as long as they're not being burnt to a crisp from the sun. It will just dry their soil out faster which isn't a bad thing honestly!

If you do move them outside make sure it's in the shade for the entire day, putting them into more intense light suddenly can burn them. They need to be introduced to more light gradually so they can become used to it slowly. This usually means an hour or two max in gentle morning sun before they're moved to a shadier place for the rest of the day and letting them get used to that schedule and amount of light for a few days before increasing the amount of light they receive and again letting them adjust to the new increase. It can be quite a hassle and there's much less need for it when putting them under growlights I've found, they don't burn they just get stress color very very fast. But even being out in the shade outside 24/7 will be much brighter than indoors even if it's still not enough light for them.

They will definitely feel loose, that's totally normal. Once they establish their roots into the soil better they'll be much sturdier. For now if you need to hold them up with stakes or some rocks around the base of the stems to keep them from falling out or being wobbly that's totally okay. They should feel more secure after their first watering but will still be somewhat wobbly.

Welcome! Happy to help :)

Wandering Jew isn't a 'succulent' but it's pretty close and is going to be more similar than say, a seedling or trying to produce tomatoes in the winter.

This is the article that helped me, so many place talk about proper grow lights instead of typical shop lights that work just fine. This is also helpful

I got these from amazon earlier this month and I've had them on for a couple weeks now and all my new growth is going great. I got them for $56 for 6 bulbs. I have them set up on your typical wire shelving, 2 per shelf. They were extremely easy to install and set up. They're also pretty cool, even directly touching the bulb it's just warm, barely hot after being on for 12 hours.

Now, obviously they're not available anymore. Amazon does have some similar packages that are 5000k which should work but isn't as ideal.

Special grow lights are nice (the red/blue bulbs, give out purple light) but if you're not looking to force something to flower and just keep it with decent growth in the winter, a shop light works fine.

You want something with 6500k for the color temp - it's a bright white. 5000k would probably be okay but not ideal. 3000k is for flowering.

Basically, if you have a smallish area and a shelf, a t5 or t8 light fixture with bulbs in the 6500k BRIGHT WHITE or HIGH OUTPUT range will keep her plants happy.

If you throw t5 6500k into amazon, there are tons of bulbs available but I'm not familiar with the fixture - what I got included those.

Now, if she only has a couple of plants, something smaller would be fine, I know they have 2ft long ones too.

> Actual blueprint

Great, you make my plans look like something an orangutan would wipe its ass with...

I must tell you there is no guarantee 5000k will work better, in fact I get the easily tightest growth from 4000k LED. 6500K fluoro made for wide plants but not nearly as tight, it demanded more real estate with wider leaves + longer stalks to spread them out.

Fluoro and LED are different of course, fluoros have wide spectrum always and LED is divided into almost pure RGB spectrum (like lasers)


I'm telling you, the plant under MH 250 watt at 5500 kelving gave me good fast growth compared to the LED (only using ~35%of the LED strip output tho) but fewer nodes! Much more air in that plant.

MH is its own technology, with its own spectrum, but it seems the color of the light source has an overall say in plant BUILD more than growth SPEED and I've seen it in every single plant I've grown, they all seem to respond the same within their species capabilities.

4000k LEDs got a lot tighter nodes and darker colors. It's in week 8 flower and STILL NOT YELLOWING, my bigger plants with more soil look starved for nitrogen in comparison.
5000k+ can work if you have few plants and want the few, atlas sized leaves, if you want more species and individuals the 4000K is going to keep it thin and shorter and tighter spaced plants. 3000K works but I wouldn't look at anything but the most efficient lights in your case (which in most LED cases is 4k)

of course hard to guarantee I don't really know shit, but something of this sort.


Quantom boards with 60 degrees would be a problem no?


The arduino stuff is over my head so can't calculate for that, But know what I would want to do, Have LEDs around the frame and back light the leaves, maybe less efficient for some plants, may look better in warm white, who knows. A ring of low intensity back light would be cool.

So many factors, my head hurts, your ideas seem sound however.

My old strips are kind of like these, but less efficient and more expensive (and can still grow serious dope)

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM

Maybe try 5000k, but make it a third priority, I'd invest in efficiency, lower price and the known tight build of ~4000k LEDs first and foremost

But take into account I have not browsed all specs and prices on QB and COB options and my selection is very limited out of EU.

Good luck with that build tho I'm loving it. I had a shit ton of plants not long ago but ran into health issues and now building back up to a comfortable, low maintenance indoor environment.

I just bought a shelving rack like this one and these lights, but now I'm trying to make sure I set everything up properly and have questions x_x

• How many lights do I need per shelf and where should they be positioned?
  
  • I want to attach one on each side like this, but that would put them 14 in (35.5 cm) apart and might be too far.
    
• Is placing the lights 8 in (20 cm) above the tops of the plants too far?
  
  • I have a tall aloe that I've based one of the shelf heights off of, but the other tall-ish plants on that shelf would be about 8 inches away.
    
• Any advice on acclimating plants to their new lights?
  
  • They've been in an eastern window all year and are looking a bit sad and etiolated. Previous years I'd take them outside during the summer and then they'd be fine over winter, but I wasn't able to get them out this year ;\^;
    
  • They will still be positioned where they can receive what little eastern light they were getting as well.
    
• How long should the lights be left on?
  
  • I'm going to get an outlet timer, but not sure how long these particular lights should be left on.
    
• Should I add a fan for better air circulation?
  
  Thanks for any help! :)

Sure! I used these lights from amazon. I think they are supposed to be for garages but they met the specs I was looking for (CCT: 6500k and 2100+ lumens per square foot per light) and were relatively inexpensive. I have 2 on each shelf connected to eachother by cords that are included in the pack. The pack also comes metal snaps that screw in, but I opted to attach using large command picture hanging strips. I kept the metal brackets just in case the command strips didnt work but so far they have been working great and I dont have to put as many holes in the hutch. Plus I have run the lights for 8 hours straight and can still touch the aluminum housing. I would say after that amount of time its like touching one of those hand warmer packs right when they start. Its kind of hard to see from the pictures but I did have to drill small 5/8th inch holes so the lights could connect as a continuous unit. This was honestly just for me because I am forgetful and have them hooked up to this timer. I also have some mini fans that I would like to put in so I can keep the doors shut... but I havent quite figured that out yet haha

In my opinion, if you paid $3K for that little workbench and additions, you've lost your mind.

What do you have there really? A whole 8 sq.ft. of work space if you clear everything off? How can you sit back and be ok with that for $3K? My workbench is probably more than twice that length at 9' and deeper as well. It's made of birch hardwood with steel legs and if given some moderate care will outlive me. I probably have about $700 in that workbench. I'm all pegboarded out as well. You got a monitor up but in spending $3K you still don't have anything hooked up to it?? And what are you going to spend on a Mac mini, another $800? I snagged an aging gaming PC off of Craigslist for $120 which will handle YouTube and whatever other garage shit I throw at it quite easily. Snagged a 1080 ultrawide monitor on there for super cheap as well and mounted it on a VESA swivel mount. Your lighting is truly terrible. You have one light bar going across the top? Even in the video thumbnail you can see all the shadows being cast in that dimly lit area. Do yourself a favor and grab some of these. They'll make your garage as bright as the surface of the Sun and you'll never think about lighting again.

I've got 4 of these over my 300L and the two extra are in my garage over part of my aquaponic system:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HBT3BVM/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_3?smid=A1V31LM9AH9FRH&psc=1

As for the floodlights on my other tanks, I can't find the exact ones I've bought anymore and they're a lot more powerful than you'd want, but there are plenty of 20W 6500k LED floods on Amazon. Most are around 2200 lumen each, and come in 2-packs which would be a pretty perfect amount for yours. If you scan over the reviews, you can often find other people using them over planted tanks with great results.

Thank you for the detailed response. For me, I will likely be using just basic white LEDS, not RGB, so color space isn't a factor in this particular project (just wanting better lighting in my garage).

I was planning on using these modular LED enclosures attached to the ceiling, and then I wanted to control their on/off capabilities with something compatible with the Hue app. For that I think the Gledopto Dimmer Switch might be able to work, I'd need to adapt it somehow from the three prong power outlet that's included in the enclosures.

Ideally I was hoping to find something like this smart outlet, but from the recent reviews it seems that it's not compatible with Hue. I have yet to find one that explicitly states that it is verified Hue compatible. This would be nice because then I wouldn't have to worry about rewiring like I will with the Gledopto dimmer.

It don't know much about the flickering, I will have to research that some more.

Again, thank you for the response, if I ever want to do more Hue projects with proper RGB lights, I will keep your advice about color protocols in mind.

Have you thought about LEDs? They are a lot cooler and my tomato seedlings grew right around them without burning.

I got these exact ones for my starter shelf

(Pack of 8) Barrina LED T5... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DNPL2VC?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

The tomatoes started to flower but I didn't keep them inside long enough to see if they could actually grow fruit

Also they are 4' long and your shelf is 3'.

Edit: depending on seedlings you can leave the lights on for 24hours but some need a day/night cycle. I used 16hours for all my seedlings.

T5 vs. T8 doesn't matter too much. T5 has a higher output and more efficient in a more compact bulb but also runs hotter. When I was looking it seemed like T5 has better options for indoor gardening (but were pricey). T8 are cheaper but that may change with increased popularity of T5.

I did my one-stall garage workshop with 7 of these linkable LED fixtures from Sams Club, and the brightness is so worth it. One of the best upgrades I’ve ever done to my shop. I also did my basement gym with these and love them both.

If you want to get nitty-gritty, there are lighting calculators online to help you determine how many fixtures you would need to get a certain amount of foot candles at your workbench, based on lumen output, spacing, and height of the ceiling/distance above workbench. It sounds more complicated than it is... I basically bought two or three fixtures at a time for the garage until I was satisfied with the light.

Dunno the maker, though it's gorgeous.

About the globe, is it plastic? I can't tell the size from the photo, but there are a few standard size globes that pretty much all lamps used and still use. If it's plastic, this may be a cheapo replacement from Home Depot or something.

Glass, seamlesss globes are easy to get, if you want to replace it. Measure the fitter (the opening on the bottom), that will tell you what size you need. You can try a Home Depot or Lowes, or an Ace or some local hardware store, sometimes they have them in stock. Or you can get 'em on Amazon. FYI, It's been a coupe years since I compared prices, but when I needed a few 6 inch globes, buying a cheapo fixture was cheaper than buying just the globe.

If you just want to hold a clone or two, any light will work. Take them while in veg, and get them stable at 8" tall or so. They can sit under a desk lamp almost indefinitely, and will require very little water and attention.

Have a bookshelf you can clear off? A single T5 fixture runs about $20. You could keep a dozen clones healthy and happy, indefinitely, under one. 1g cloth pots will keep them from getting rootbound.

If you wait until harvest, then try to reveg the plant, it'll work, but it will take a long time to get things back to a true veg state (months, potentially). And if you take a cutting or flip to flower before that happens, you likely have permanently altered the plant. Cloning from veg is really the best choice.

there's 2 issues at play here.

1. you need to make sure that fan is securely mounted to a solid support (not the drop ceiling)
   
2. you need to make sure that the fan is balanced
   
   This is 1 way to solve #1.
   https://www.amazon.com/Westinghouse-Lighting-Saf-T-Grid-Suspended-Ceilings/dp/B000P259RW/
   
   you should be able to find a video or tutorial for balancing a fan online.

Correct. The Arduino can only output a few mA (see its specification), so you need to use transistors (eg MOSFETs) - probably one for every channel (R/G/B).

I recommend you work in stages:

• Decide what topology you want. Do you want to have one controller controlling all your strips at once? Should they all be the same colour? What inputs should it respond to (button presses, timers...)?
  
• Build a prototype of your MOSFET transistor stage - use a breadboard and wire it up so you can connect the Arduino and your power supply at one end and the LED strip at the other.
  
• Connect a short length of LED strip to your Arduino through your transistor stage, and start writing some basic Arduino programs to gain experience. There are a ton of tutorial and code samples, just use your favourite search engine.
  
• As for power supply, determine what input voltage and current your strips need, and buy an appropriate-sized power supply.
  
  If you give us more details about what exactly you're planning to do we may be able to give you more concrete answers, but your post is very vague.
  
  Also, consider how you want to install the LED strips. Usually indirect lighting works best, but this means you can't just stick them on the wall/ceiling, but have to recess them behind something (e.g. a TV, on top of cupboards) so that you're never looking at the strip directly, but it's illuminating a wall/ceiling instead. Keep in mind that the strips can produce a moderate amount of heat - I recommend you look into metal U-shaped channels (example) to act as heat sinks.

I just purchased these lights 2 weeks ago...my lettuce and herbs are happy. I'm using 4 per shelf. 2-3 inches above the plants.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B076FQ15R6/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_20?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1KZKP85O3COJ

for peppers you may want to use the 4000k lights or a mix of the two. There is more red spectrum in the 4000k lights which is more ideal for fruiting plants. Blue spectrum is great for leafy growth

Nice! But does look a bit sad.

I have this weird idea: Aesthetics in architecture is 90% lighting. I wish more people would check out LED panels as area lights. I plan to plaster my whole ceiling with this type of light so it feels not like a couple of point light sources with hard shadows, but like an open area with a warm overcast light instead. Ideally get one that can be dimmed and change color. Should take up almost no space and create very soft shadows, more indirect light and generally make everything look prettier.

As mentioned you can do a splitter, or you can get a socket conversion that allows you to convert the socket into an outlet and plug a LED shop light in. As with a splitter you should run low draw lights (LED ideally) just as to not create even more of a safety hazard.

However if you just want a quick plug and play option I use these in my garage to help cover more area, just be aware that they aren't like super amazing (and you can find cheaper Chinese knockoffs) but they get the job done and honestly after I put them in and adjusted the angles I haven't had any complaints or really thought about them much other than the light comes on and it covers the area(s) I need.

EDIT: Just reread your post and if you only have a single crappy bulb head over to home depot and take a look at some of their LED overhead lights like this super easy to swap a socket over from (disclaimer turn the power off first and confirm it's off) and one person can install it in 20 minutes or less with the only tough part being getting the first screw into the top half while holding it. Just keep in mind that it isn't outdoor rated and humidity and such could cause issues so do some research on them and see what they have that's rated for garage conditions.

Looks like a nice space! It might be worth looking into some inexpensive LED tube lighting on Amazon to brighten it up a bit. Check these bad boys out! Super affordable and easy to install and makes a world of a difference on dark winter days.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought a couple of packs of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078Y8LGG7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

they light up the shop beautifully, are more cost effective than spending $20 for every 4ft, and were super easy to install. I have them plugged into an outlet that is controlled from the light switch to my shop.

Are you talking about these? I just got some Mr. Beams motion sensing lights for my closet, and they work pretty nicely. Mr. Beams also makes these night lights. I imagine they should be good.

Otherwise, I'd go with /u/fivethirds's suggestion. I personally have some GE branded version of those, and I like them. As (s)he said, they're basically just like a giant indiglo watch face. There is literally just enough light to not step on something, and nothing more.

These might work but what a horrible website. The first major red flag is 4.9 stars out of 5 based on 403 reviews. That's obvious non-sense. Anytime you have a (tacky) website full of testimonials like this is a sure sign of bullshit.

You can pick these types of lights up for $15.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W53Y4DL/ref=psdc_5772194011_t3_B07SDG8Y6J


My first concern is that this light is going to be an ungrounded light fixture with a metal housing. That's the nature of these lights with sockets. I would never use one unless it was tested by a NRTL like ETL or UL. Keep in mind that at this price point that safety will never be a priority. You can always sue Amazon if you get a shock but then again you may be on your own if this thing catches fire etc.


"Don't touch with wet hand when the light is working." I mean, WTF....they are saying in black and white that the light is not safe.

100 lumens per watt really is not that good. 6000 lumens is way overkill for a 5 gallon bucket.

For general illumination purposes a CRI of 80 sucks because the R9 rating is going to very, very low. This means that reds won't render accurately. That's just something to consider outside of space buckets.



I would not get the 6000K CCT versions. That's great for a garage and I use high CCT lights for my lab bench because the blue light helps with visual acuity.

I'll buy one to tear apart and see how safe it is for myself since several people have brought this up to me. My testing is more extensive that what other people do like getting an oscilloscope of the LED driver (if any), thermal imaging testing, trying to induce line voltage faults, the blanket test to see if it burns like other lights have, spectrometry testing of the LEDs etc.

This is the specific light that I just ordered to test and will be here next Tuesday. I've never found any of these cheapest lights to be safe.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W53Y4DL/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ARN3S85YZE2YJ&psc=1

Ok...ProTip

Before you replace a light like these (flush round ceiling lights) measure the diameter. Often times, when you have lights like these up for long periods of time, they can discolor the ceiling around them because of the heat of incandescent lamps. That leaves a sort of ghosted on circle of discolored ceiling.

So don't go ordering a bunch of stuff because you might pull the light down and find your new light is not wide enough to cover the discoloration.

The simplest solution is to buy a light that is as wide or wider than your current one.

This is a pretty decent aged bronze bulkhead light that is 12 inches wide. There is even a 16" version too.

Something like this with exposed edison lamps would work too I think

Here's another option

As for the track, Maybe something in bronze instead of nickel

Realistically though, you just need to get into google shopping and just search for the color you are looking for and set your price requirements. You'll eventually stumble upon something in your price range.

Not tape, but usually if you want to diffuse an LED strip and have the installation look pretty you would use a plastic or aluminum channel with a diffusion cover. Something like this. On-the-cheap you could put the strip in acrylic square tube and then sand or sandblast the outside to frost it.

You can also use white fabric or vellum - remember that the farther you put the diffusion the better blending you'll get.

For an inexpensive and easy to install solution, check these out: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM/

A 6-pack for ~$50 is pretty darn cheap. They put out a good bit of light and will really light up a basement workshop very well.

This calendar has worked well for me. We use a couple hundred square feet in our backyard for growing veggies, and tend to start most of them indoors like people in this thread have mentioned.

A [cheap set of LEDs] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) (you can buy fancy full-spectrum plant LEDs if you really want, but these are just for getting them growing prior to putting them outside) and a [heat mat] (https://www.amazon.com/certified-Seedfactor-Waterproof-Germination-Hydroponic/dp/B074753J5V/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=seed+mat&qid=1557274811&s=gateway&sr=8-4) from Amazon or a local nursery will go a long way in making sure you're ready to go with plants year round.

If you get some plants going indoors, you can replace your tomatoes and peppers with some cold-weather crops (Brussels sprouts, broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, etc.).

Century Indoor 24-Hour Mechanical Outlet Timer, 3 Prong, 2-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LPSGBZS?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

(Pack of 6) Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 6500K (Super Bright White), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded electric with built-in ON/OFF switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Hgrope 5W LED Grow Light Desk Lamp Clamp Flexible Neck for Hydroponic and Indoor Plants https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CVKWZH3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7ZEaBbZSW8ASJ


this last one isn't the exact red/blue lights i have but it looks better than mine hahaha

Looking at getting some lights for my garage (single overhead light and an Ikea light =/= good times) and was thinking about these. If anyone has any comments about these lights in particular or other budget friendly solutions, that would be great!

Good prime day deal on barrina t-5 LEDs. I have two sets for the garage. Great value, highly recommend

(Pack of 6) Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 4000K (Daylight Glow), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded Electric with Built-in ON/Off Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MUKSZE3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_d4ulDbEYTYB2A

I got these are they are great. Easy install and lights up my garage nicely. Only issue is that one came in with a dent in the plastic housing of the light. It didn't cause any issues though. There are plenty of other posts about these lights on here as well.

Barrina LED T5

I got these recently and I’m pretty happy with them! I have 3 on my shelf with my more light hungry succs. 2 on one shelf with my less light hungry, and 1 on my prop shelf. I got them because in my sunniest spot they were still etiolating. New growth is all compact now, and even a little sunstress and some blooms! The lights are about 6-10in above my plants..

These are probably too long for that shelf tho. I know Barrina has 2ft lights like this that are actually made for plants but I’m not sure if the specs are right for succs. My lights stick out past my shelf so it’s not the prettiest but it’s functional. From my understanding the cheap clip plant lights from amazon don’t really do much of anything.


(Pack of 6) Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 6500K (Super Bright White), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded electric with built-in ON/OFF switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ghNFDbAW91XJR

Only two small windows in the basement and this picture was taken at 11:30pm.

Got these on Amazon in March and have been very happy with them. If you check my post history I know I put up before/afters when I installed them initially. Probably could've gotten away with less fixture density but really like having it bright. Thinking about getting another set for the other half of the space where our cardio equipment is.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DNPL2VC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have a mix of lights for a number of plants, I have been impressed with these t8 4ft LEDs if you don't mind manually wiring them or buying a separate fixture for them. I just screw the tombstones to the bottom of my shelf and ziptied the other end. Like so.
https://imgur.com/a/9itKz

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DJT1CQY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&th=1

I have some of these and they are a great alternative if you don't want to wire anything. I have only had them a month or so but my Neps they are over seem happy.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076FQ15R6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Light is fine but $70 for one is very expensive. Check Amazon, you can get 8 (20W) for that price: (Pack of 8) LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture 4FT,20W,2200lm,6500K (Super Bright White),Utility led Shop Light, LED Ceiling light and Under Cabinet Light, Corded electric with built-in ON/OFF switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076FQ15R6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_xoKQDbBF6P1HG

If you could find some way to diffuse the lighting a bit I think itd take it to the next level. Because how bright the picture makes it seem, I can't tell if its just a standard adhesive LED strip or what

But something like this would soften the lighting and give you clean straight lines

The area looks very cool though

Hey everyone! We are getting ready to move, and my plants are going to be moving out into the garage, and have a question about lighting.

We are planning on redoing my lighting set up.I found these on Amazon. According to the specs, these should be just fine right? 6500k light spectrum, 2200 lumen per light.

They're a lot smaller than buying an entire light fixture and bulbs, last much longer than a CFL or T5 bulb, cost less, and are cheaper. I don't see why these wouldn't work, but I thought I'd get some other opinions, thank you! :)

I guess what im looking for is something like this:

https://www.lotusledlights.com/recessed-lighting/j-box-mounted

but one that will work with Hue.

or even something as slim as this would work:

http://www.usa.lighting.philips.com/products/product-highlights/slimsurface-led-downlight

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but neither of those works with hue. Im not restricting myself to only Philips, if there are other brands out there as long as its compatible with the Hue Hub I would think it'd be ok.

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Closest thing with Hue I could find is this

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-801480-Flushmount-Compatible-Assistant/dp/B0718XQ49D/ref=sr_1_4?s=lamps-light&ie=UTF8&qid=1536096331&sr=1-4&keywords=hue

but if im going to go that thick i might as well just get a normal ceiling light that accepts normal sized . bulbs

That's a great big space, you're very fortunate.


Also:
(Pack of 6) Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 6500K (Super Bright White), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded electric with built-in ON/OFF switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_M2cYDbSKZY7WG

Does anyone have thoughts or experience with these grow lights?
What are your preferred lights for the best price for a larger collection?

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=6500k+led+light&qid=1571371822&sr=8-6

I have a very large collection that I’ve accumulated most of over the last few months and need to buy many of this type of grow light or a few large ones. I’m not sure if I’m going to do a table(s) or shelf setup or a combo of both. Any and all thoughts and advice welcomed and appreciated.

If you only grow greens then I always recommend these (Pack of 6) Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 6500K (Super Bright White), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded Electric with Built-in ON/Off Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_EDN6BbD2J5E4T

They're affordable and provide a lot of light, they work great for leafy stuffs

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These are $50, super bright. Like so bright. All you need for a 1 space or even a 2 space garage. For the price get 2 and have all the nice low power usage bright ass led lighting you ever need.

I have these in my garage and they have been great. A few of my friends saw them and had to have them as well. I've had zero issues.

Do not hesitate and buy these lights or something similar. Best decision I’ve made for my plants this summer. I saw this on fat_plants_only instagram. She has a whole highlight on her lighting set up and it works. My plants are finally compact and have their stress colors. I think the key is to make sure it’s white LED and 6500K. This is what my set up looks like now. I have my lights on 12 hours a day and in about two weeks I noticed a difference in my plants.

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Barina+led&qid=1554859667&s=gateway&sr=8-2

1 pack of six, lights up the entire 3 car garage well. Super easy to install and inexpensive.

This is the light I bought.
I left a 1 star review on Amazon because the first one was faulty and they never returned my call. They have since sent me another new unit and it works great. But their quality control seems to be lacking as you can see by the other reviews.

There are similar lights out there but I'm quite happy with this now. I just got it installed and working on Monday after receiving the replacement.

I love it!! Are these the lights you have?

(Pack of 6) Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 6500K (Super Bright White), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded electric with built-in ON/OFF switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3RoTCbTQZNM8K

This is actually a project I just did this weekend. I originally only had the two shelves in front of the window with red/blue LEDs. It is a south facing window; it's just getting to the end of the day in the picture. I set up the other shelves on the opposite wall for plants that (I believe) only need low light, and cuttings.

I did not like the red/blue LEDs because they caused immediate eye fatigue, and with this also being the spare room my kids use for toys ("the play room"), I didn't want them to have any long-term effects from the lights. I don't know if it's possible, but even being in the room with the red/blues for 5 minutes was pretty bad. I got these lights because they're daylight lights, and any lights are better than no lights at all. These are the lights I bought.

Edit: I'd also like to add one thing about humidity trays. I haven't ever seen much documentation about it or discussion, so I have just been using cookie sheets filled with my bonsai soil mix (100% inorganic). It seems to work? lol

Here is another option to pot lights.

https://www.amazon.com/Halo-80CRI-Flush-Mount-6-Inch/dp/B00OGZSQRE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478256484&sr=8-2&keywords=halo+led+light

I installed a bunch of these in my house to both replace old builder quality brass fixtures and as new fixtures in my kitchen for work lighting over the counter. They fit into round and square 4" new and old work boxes. Good even output, much easier to air seal. There are a few different models with different color temps and outputs so check out their website before ordering if you go this way.

I got a set of 6 LED bars online for like $55 and they work great. You need something between 5000k to 6500k ideally(thats the color)
Here is some sets of 2, 6, and 8
2
https://www.amazon.com/B2ocled-Linkable-Integrated-equivalent-Single-Ended/dp/B01JFPB0JU/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_4?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1526527440&sr=8-4-fkmr1&keywords=2ft%2Bbarrina%2BLED&th=1
6
https://www.amazon.com/GRG-Integrated-Linkable-Fluorescent-Replacement/dp/B079BD5CG7/ref=sr_1_5?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1526529507&sr=1-5&keywords=2ft+6500K+LED
8
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076FQ15R6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2tIQDbBFSHXJZ

Best bet is a standard can, then an LED retrofit kit.

In the future I'm sure we'll have better integrated LED solutions. But for now, this is the way to go.

If you're okay with the look, there are some units that can fit in a junction box. This saves you a few bucks on the can, but the unit is usually more expensive.

These are the ones I got: Barrina LED T5 and I friggin' love them. The only possible downside is that they're pretty fragile, so be careful putting them up.

I am late in the game for grow lights. I have read just about every thread on grow lights and I just want to make sure that this setup will be okay.

• My succulents will be on 2 metal wire shelves that is 4’ long (the basic shelves from Home Depot).
  
• I read that you can buy a T8 fixture and then buy an adapter to change it to fit T5 bulbs.
  
  I’m thinking of buying 4 of these (2 on each shelf) fixtures: Shop Fixture
  
  And these T5 HO bulbs: Vivosun Bulbs
  
  Would this work for my 2 metal shelves?
  
  Or .... go with these and put 4 on each shelf? Barrina T5 LEDs
  

amazon has a 6 pack of 48 inch led shop lights for 40 bucks. best investment ever

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891 reviews 4.5 stars I got a perfect set. put 4 in the shop. one over my kitchen sink and one in the laundry room.

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yes the connecting wires are a little short . but it comes with 6 power cords and switches..

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https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_60_bs_lp_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=5W1BPBMPEGBEQ9304H79

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These guys. You can get a 12 pack for cheaper also. I think it works out to 7.50 per light. I run them for 16 hours a day. I use three per shelf for green and herbs. Two per shelf for microgreens. They need to be fairly close for the first couple of weeks, but things take off well. They are completely cool to the touch.

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https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=sr_1_3?crid=35RVOJTLYQCAN&keywords=barinna+led+t5&qid=1559125327&s=gateway&sprefix=barinna%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-3

I redid all of the closets in my house shortly after I moved in, using the ClosetMaid system. It made a world of difference and easily doubled the amount of useful space in every closet, and as a bonus the shelves and bars can be moved around as my daughter gets older to better accommodate her needs. I also added these Mr. Beams ceiling-mounted LED lights in every closet, as well as those in my mother's house, which made every closet even more useful now that I could see inside of them.

I'm currently renovating the (half) bathroom in my shop; it's extremely small, just 4 1/2' square, so I'm all about the details now. I bought a sink that was narrower but deeper than the previous sink which makes the room feel larger without taking up additional space, and to make it more useful I bought a faucet that's taller so that I can fill a bucket in there if I need to. I also added one of those "Pur" water filters to it since my shop doesn't have space for a water cooler. I added a shelf to the space under the sink (in the vanity) so I've got more storage space there. The bathroom has no venting system so I bought an air purifier and set it up behind the toilet. I installed a GFI outlet that the purifier is powered by, and that outlet goes on and off with the light switch so whenever someone's using the bathroom the purifier is working. I replaced the wall-mount mirror with a tall medicine cabinet for storage there, then bought a small shelf unit from Ikea and mounted it on the wall above/behind the toilet. Finally, where there previously was a useless hole in the wall on one side (literally) I built a small wood box with a shelf in it and mounted it inside that hole for additional storage and decorative space.

I use these lights and they work good so far and are good price. i hung 2 per row to cover edge to edge.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

First, leds strips are made the cheapest way possible so there is a good chance that some of them will be damaged right out of the package. With that said, measure the length you need and buy double that just to be sure.

Length doesn't dictate the brightness of the leds, (which are wired in series) the power source will. Typically the 12v ac adapter that gets provided for these led strip packs just isn't enough to keep the leds at 12v due to voltage droop. To fix this, just get a better quality power supply. Even trying for a slightly higher voltage, and adding a resistor between the source and the lights.

For light diffusion, try this:https://www.amazon.com/U-Shape-Aluminum-recessed-installation-Mounting/dp/B00F9Q602M

Although, if the light will be viewed indirectly, you probably wont need it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 bought these and LOVE em.

I've put these up. They're bright af:

(Pack of 6) Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 6500K (Super Bright White), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded electric with built-in ON/OFF switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM/

Well, the only thing I can add is that my LEDs aren't plant specific either. This is what I bought from Amazon and haven't had any issues as far as seed starting goes.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HBT3BVM?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Maybe if you look at the specs it will help.

I think it's a combination of different photography and possibly different LED spacing and diffusion.

If you want a nice smooth light, get the highest-density strip you can, and put some sort of diffuser on it. These are purpose-made but anything that makes the light go through some kind of frosted effect will do the same thing. You could even put them inside clear tube and spray it with glass frosting paint.

OP here. At someone’s suggestion on this subreddit, I bought these lights on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share. I put all six of them a few inches above my Echeveria and keep them on for 12 hours each day. I know from past experience that Echeveria Afterglow will IMMEDIATELY flatten out if it doesn’t get enough sun, and I bet if I put it outside tomorrow it would tighten back up. So that must mean my grow lights aren’t strong enough, right?? I can’t keep them outside because I live in Phoenix, Arizona, where our 120 degree weather will kill them. I’m just trying to get them through the summer by bringing them inside. Does someone have stronger grow lights they can recommend? Price is not really an issue for me.

nice! all jokes aside, i use the Mr. Beams MB990 as a light source for closets with no lights. takes D cells, u can use AA to D sleeve or the 3 AA to 1 D modules as well. or just use plain jane D cells (thats what i use)

https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Beams-MB990-UltraBright-Wireless/dp/B01JS9CCHC/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=Mr.+Beams+MB990&qid=1571757236&sr=8-4

How about a motion sensing light?

Warm White LED Ceiling Wall Surface Mount Microwave Motion Activated Smart LED Light Fixture 180 LED 1000Lumens Multi-Functions for Residential Commercial and Industrial Lighting Applications https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0163NVMTA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_BYUSBbXJA3870

Flat, and no switch needed. Nice for when holding a basket full of laundry.

Instead of using pull chains I would recommend switching over to linkable LED lights. These are relatively inexpensive and are basically plug and play so little electrical knowledge is needed unless you want to hardwire them to a switch. Typical 3-5 year warranty means you should be covered for a while.

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM

Planning on buying this light setup for 4 shelves with succulents and cacti and houseplants underneath them. What do you guys think?

Edit: itll be near a west facing window, but i really would mainly like them to survive through the winter.

Waaaaaaay overpriced!

These below are fantastic. Pack of 8, 4’ T5 6500k 2300lm 20w fixtures. I use tons of these in a commercial grow setup.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076FQ15R6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2tIQDbBFSHXJZ

Something like this might work for your needs. This is what I have, and it seems to work fine. These are the bulbs I use with it.

These guys? https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B07DNPL2VC/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Barrina%2BLED%2BT5&qid=1554527148&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1

How long have you been using them? You're plants seem to have very nice color.

Agreed. This looks like the plugs for some 4ft long LED overhead lights I recently bought.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/GE-54178-Socket-Adapter-Outlets/dp/B000TU1W9Y/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1500931612&sr=8-8&keywords=outlet+socket

I used these. 4 linked together in a two car garage. extremely easy to install and very light/low profile

EDIT: When I bought them they were $60 for a 6 pack

There aren’t many smaller packs. Here is a different brand in a 6pack, but you’re getting a more cost efficient solution...as in, you may find other options in single or 2packs, but you’ll likely pay more for them.

i bought these for my garage, bright enough for me

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=led+garage&qid=1568855153&s=gateway&sr=8-6

I use an incandescent bulb for basking and a Reptisun 10.0 tube light for UVB. The latter can be used with a regular T8 fixture instead of the more expensive Zoomed ones so long as the wattages match up. I use this one. Those smaller bulbs you linked are more meant for small lizards I think, they don't have much reach.


The mercury vapor bulbs are more expensive but they're supposed to last up to a year as opposed to 6 months like normal fluorescent UVB lights, if they don't burn out that is which I've heard can be an issue for those

Here you go boss. I think this also confirms they are the same set OP has haha. They are very cost effective. I run four per shelf in my garden but I will note that I've run into the occasional plant that I need more light for. Three season lettuce comes to mind (they didn't develop any color until I moved them outside) though that may be a light temperature thing... I still need to test that.

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM

Yes!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076FQ15R6?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post such a basic question, so I'll ask here.

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What kind of grow lights should I get? I'm about to purchase a 5-tier shelf to hold all of my succulents for winter, but I'm new to this and have never used grow lights before. Browsing through this sub I've found these two are mentioned a lot? Here's one and here's another. Which one should I get? Should I put all the lights up top and let them shine down or should I put one on each shelf?

Not op but 99% sure it’s these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM/. I have a set of the same ones.

(Pack of 8) Barrina LED T5... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DNPL2VC?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share here is the link to the lights that I bought

It’s these.

(Pack of 6) Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 6500K (Super Bright White), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded Electric with Built-in ON/Off Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fQ19BbK7VS958

I do have them just to give a few things in the window a little extra push. But, you would be better off spending just a little more and getting these t5's... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

There are light fixtures which use batteries, which can be attached to any surface, like the one below:

https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Beams-MB990-UltraBright-Wireless/dp/B01JS9CCHC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Maybe that's what you are looking for?

For anyone interested
My lights: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_CdHKDbPDRD0JF

My shelf: https://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-48-in-W-x-72-in-H-x-18-in-D-Decorative-Wire-Chrome-Heavy-Duty-Shelving-Unit-HD18481302PS-1/203846551?MERCH=REC-_-rv_mobileweb_rr-_-NA-_-203846551-_-N

I also needed an outlet timer since the lights don't have one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVFF59S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_FmHKDbGVVCMWT

It would be cheap, and far less hassle if you used daylight LED's in that basement. You could make it like the surface of the sun, for just pennies a day.

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-electric/dp/B01HBT32PW

The lights I'm looking at are 2200 lumen each. I will try to fit 16 bulbs total. These are the ones.

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1542908042&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=led+light+fixture&dpPl=1&dpID=41CSVksDnPL&ref=plSrch

I second this - this would fix like all of my problems.... potentially

Edit:

Went through OP's history...

https://m2.ikea.com/ca/en/p/fjaelkinge-shelving-unit-white-60221683/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

From this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/succulents/comments/a76try/my_succulent_shelf_is_finally_complete_12_led/

Currently using [3 of these guys] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_zbnXBb08TPT7Z) in a DIY bench. They're 6500k and have been working out really well for my plants. My ficus seedlings seemed to be getting too much light so I've also made a shade cloth with cheap netting fabric.

Downside is they're 48" long. But the pack brings 6 for $40. Each bulb is only 20W. Running 3 for 12hrs/day will only cost me ~$3. Highly recommended.

I use these and they work well for me! https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HBT3BVM?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

I put $50 worth of LED stick lights in the basement workshop. Oh my god it is so nice to be able to see what I'm doing. When I move, I will unscrew about 8 small screws from the drywall, fill the holes and be on my way!

I got the 5,000 lumen LED fixture from Harbor Freight for $20 and its stellar! Though I did find what looks to be the identical light in a 6 pack on Amazon for $45. I'll be ordering that for my next shop!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HBT3BVM/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A1V31LM9AH9FRH&psc=1

I use these lights! I have four of them screwed under each shelf and my plants are loving them!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM/

There you go! I would really like to have attached it to the house, but I will be building a carport that will attach to those stairs in the future. There is a drain to some sort of basin. I poured 5 gallons of water down it without issue before proceeding to tear down the cover.

What voltage power do you use in Japan, 220v or 110v?

I think the Hue Being Ceiling lights are available in either. Heres an Amazon US listing for a 110v:
https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Ambiance-Flushmount-Amazon-Aluminum/dp/B0718XQ49D/ref=pd_sim_60_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0718XQ49D&pd_rd_r=5GZP7P4DG6A56R6M3VGD&pd_rd_w=vNBHQ&pd_rd_wg=xh9jk&psc=1&refRID=5GZP7P4DG6A56R6M3VGD

And heres Amazon UK with a 220v version:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01L99H7YC?aaxitk=e5R-VZJp-wtvfikARE6q7g&th=1

Then for connection just, for example, cut the plug end and a foot or so of cord and use that to connect to the power terminals on the fixture and then plug it in.

Based on another Reddit users recommendation, I have a 6-pack of these on the way for the shelf/tower I’m building for growing greens.

lights

You could try something along the lines of these lights.

Since they are a plug in not "permant fixture" you shouldn't even need to worry about a permit. I use these in my garage and they're quite good for the price.

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=pd_bxgy_60_img_2/138-2966327-8717767?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01HBT3BVM&pd_rd_r=3a6ef682-6a34-41cc-afb6-a6bbfa9d96f4&pd_rd_w=HpnFN&pd_rd_wg=5gsXi&pf_rd_p=a2006322-0bc0-4db9-a08e-d168c18ce6f0&pf_rd_r=GKE7RCTCWJEH4PXXHFAQ&psc=1&refRID=GKE7RCTCWJEH4PXXHFAQ

The link you provided has a color wiring connection example.

Go with some cheap LED strips. These should do the job https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM

Mr. Beams MB990

https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Beams-MB990-UltraBright-Wireless/dp/B01JS9CCHC

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-electric/dp/B01HBT32PW

Since your edit said your going battery powered light with motion sensing, just wanted to pass along a link to the ones i bought for all of our closets.

Mr. Beams MB982 Wireless Battery Operated Indoor/Outdoor Motion Sensing LED Ceiling Light, White (Pack of 2)

I've purchased several sets of these:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MUKSZE3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've set them up in my basement, attic, garage, and garden shed. They are cheap enough that I just put one up in any place that seemed too dark.

I used these when I did LED strips under my cabinets. Theres corner ones too https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F9Q602M/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Did the same here, wired my garage up with 2 boxes of these bad boys. They're very bright and very daylight though VERY cheaply constructed due to the price point.

I've got the UFOs: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071SGN885?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

And also the LED T5s: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076FQ15R6/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_bYeRBbKYA0RCM

It seems to be working well so far, I've got lots of flowers and some stress coloring coming back. Nothing is stretching so far either.

So, we’re going to replace the two ceiling fixtures anyways because the current ones are ugly. Would something like this maybe be more convenient than messing with the bulbs? https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Hue-Flushmount-Compatible-Assistant/dp/B0718XQ49D