Reddit mentions: The best indoor fountain mister foggers

Want to start by saying I'm definitely no shroom-growing genius yet. This is just my current setup, and a bleg for comments/ideas.

I'm just growing for myself. My brother died 1.5 years ago, and I've subsequently started microdosing shrooms, which turns out to be an absolutely fantastic antidepressant. So I'm more interested in "cheap, consistent, and reliable" than I am trying to churn out a kilo a week.

My setup is:

• A 4-tier greenhouse
  
  
• A Vicks cold humidifier on the bottom shelf
  
  
• A water fountain mist maker on the top shelf, inside a random bowl from my cupboard
  
  
• Two fans in the tent to help circulate air One is at top blowing down, the other is at bottom on the other side of the tent blowing up
  
  
• A humidity controller (the humidifier and mister are plugged into it) to help keep humidity in the right zone
  
  
• A Raspberry Pi 3 with Sense Hat so I can log temperature and humidity and log into it from work to check
  
  
• The tent is sitting on an upside-down lid from the largest tote I could find at Lowes. This allows air circulation under the skirt of the greenhouse, and helps capture any water drips to ensure I don't get water elsewhere in the room.
  
  
• Two plastic totes from Costco (sorry, can't find a link), with holes drilled in and filled with polyfill, similar to this.
  
  
• A 20 W night light bulb on a 12 hour timer on the top shelf.
  
  According to the Raspberry Pi, the average temperature in the room is 62 F, with a bimodal distribution (my girlfriend loves AC...). It's 65 F when I'm here alone, and 60 F whenever she's here. Humidity varies between 65% and 75%, though I'm still working on it. It's rather hard to boost temperatures in that particular basement room.
  
  The shrooms are growing very slowly. They started pinning 3-ish weeks ago, and still don't look anything like the giant mushrooms I see posted here regularly. My "biggest yielding" tub currently looks like this. No giant shrooms, and rather sparse inside. Furthermore, a large percentage of the shrooms have been there long enough that the caps have turned black. The other tub has a few tiny pins but no growth yet.
  
  So what do I need to be doing differently in order to improve my growth/yield? And are those black cap shrooms still good? Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
  
  Things I've already learned this round:
  
  
• Paint the bottom of your totes black or cover them with tape to prevent light from getting in. My totes don't have many shrooms as-is, but right now 2/3's of them are "side-dicks" that are impossible to get to.
  
  
• Regularly rotate totes between shelves, as well as rotating them around on the same shelf, to ensure reasonably equal amounts of sunlight and air.
  
  
• Even with a humidifier and a mister, it's hard to keep humidity in the zone. Use a squeeze bottle to mist totes every day.

I honestly just got plants at Home Depot (indoor plants) that wouldn't grow any larger. They usually keep them inside near the garden area. If you want really nice plants i recommend you check Josh's Frogs. Depending on your set up make sure to get the right size plants.

Plants: https://www.joshsfrogs.com/plants-for-pets.html

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The water area is something I add for both humidity and for the skink to swim in. I got plexiglass from my local hardware store and got (silicone sealant waterproof clear) to seal the edges, this separates the water from the land. I should mention it is deep enough. I did add a mist maker fogger water fountain in the water, wire runs through the backside of the tank making its way to the top of the tank then out. The lighting comes from the mist maker.

Mist maker: https://www.amazon.com/AGPtek%C2%AE-Changing-Fountain-Atomizer-Humidifier/dp/B00GSKCW70/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1538900380&sr=8-3&keywords=mist+maker

Silicone sealant: https://www.amazon.com/08641-Clear-Silicone-Sealant-9-8-Ounce/dp/B000BD0QAK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1538901020&sr=8-7&keywords=silicone+sealant+waterproof+clear

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This build is great I have the perfect size terrarium (small size in link) for this type of skink.

Terrarium: https://www.petsmart.com/featured-brands/national-geographic/national-geographicandtrade-reptile-desert-kit-27781.html?cgid=5000340

Make sure to get mesh, hydro balls, substrate and its your choice on real or fake plants.

Mesh: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00167VVO0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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As far as advise on this setup... water plants everyday and keep humidity high with fahrenheit 70-78. Adding moss helps. Make sure to take your time on the setup make sure everything fits and nothing spill. As well as waiting a few days after setup is done to order red eye skink.

REMINDER: Skinks are very shy make sure to add lots of hide or plants so it won't starve itself.

I'd love to describe it! Generally I use the same design as I've found it works best for what I've grown in the past (cannabis, tomato, basil, peas, bell pepper, lettuce) which is an adaptation of most "aero-bucket" designs. For mine it's very simple, food grade bucket (preferably black to limit algal growth, though I've never had issues with this before) and an inexpensive pond fogger. The pond fogger works awesome at vaporizing the water and I've found nutrient penetration to the roots is much more effective than a direct spray method. The fogger can be a little finnicky given it needs a semi exact water level to work well but if your bucket is sealed (food grade buckets use a great gasket for sealing) you'll be fine as the solution vapor will remain in the bucket with minimal losses. Ive also used a plastic pot upside-down to raise the fogger and allow me to fill more nutrient solution into the bucket. Links for my parts below!

Fogger: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PAK245E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_2mOPAbQSA1JR8
Bucket: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A1LUFEY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_EtOPAbDT328B1

This might work lol I dont think it will play nice with the electronics of my speaker, but for your print it would be dope haha

EDIT: oh nevermind its gotta be submerged in water haha

They are kind of the same product but on a different scale. The reptifogger is essentially a large ultrasonic humidifier that will produce mist and greatly increase the humidity in your tank. The mist king system is a diaphragm pump that pushes water out of high pressure mister that creates more of a rain effect.

A small ultrasonic mister could be purchased instead and set just under the surface of the water in your tank to create the aesthetic fog you are looking for and save you a decent chunk of change. This is what I am going to use in mine to make fog on the water

you could try to put one of these in the water bowl. They might even make one without led lights. I have one and it works great I think I'm going to put it in my BCI enclosure to get a little more humidity in there (mine sits around 50% but id like it to be 60%-70%). Also you could try cutting some acrylic to size like I did, or a larger water bowl on top of a heat mat.

You can find little water-based foggers for a few bucks in many places.

https://www.amazon.com/AGPTEK-Aluminum-Fountain-Fishtank-Birdbath/dp/B00PAK245E/

That's just a simple Amazon search for "water mist". You put them in a little pot of water and plug them in and they use high-frequency sonic pulses to make fog. They aren't anywhere as efficient as "Halloween fog maker" type things but they do the job for small jobs.

edit: I have a little USB one my daughter bought me because she knows I like cute little gadgets. Perhaps I will try to get it set up and take a few photos this weekend. Don't hold me to it....

If you have enough room in your box, put a large plastic cup in the middle and put a small ultrasonic fog machine in it. Put that fogger on a timer to run about 20 seconds every couple hours or whatever. While you're at it, hook a small fan up to run around the same time to pull in some fresh air. An arduino nano is perfect for this.

this is the mister but they're a real POS, i'm currently on my third one in a year, but the latest one is holding out pretty well

I was where you were about 2 years ago.

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1. I found a free refrigerator and spent around $90 to buy all of the stuff to build my own Frankencurebox. I suggest buying a Mist Maker Fogger instead of a humidifier (less money and less space) and I use a tiny ceramic heater instead of a dehumidifier which kicks on the refrigerator to cool and dehumidifier. I eventually plan on building my own dehumidifier. Only time I've had a problem was when I loaded my box and the meat was giving off more humidity that my dehumidification could handle.
   
2. I would start with dry cured sausages. Most people here trust the Ruhlman recipes/books when starting. They are faster to finish and less money if you mess up. Go to a butcher and ask for pork or beef grind. It's the scraps they eventually turn into ground. A whole muscle cure like loma is going to take you 50+ days to finish. A dry cured sausage like pepperoni is only going to take 15-20. Much faster cycles to practice and test.
   
3. Nitrites/Nitrates are necessary and not dangerous if used properly. The big Nitrates scare of the 1980s was caused by a bacon shortage. Bacon producers over nitrated to speed up bacon production. Nitrates cooked at high temperatures release carcinogens. So because bacon producers were using too much nitrate to cure, there was some left over when the bacon was cooked which released carcinogens.

> So I should only be using the light you recommended and natural light?

The reptisun 5.0 will take care of the UVb requirements.
The next element is heat and light.

They need to self regualte their temps

So I use a old fashioned incandescent light bulb A19 these put out a good deal of dafe visible light, no UV and heat as a gentile warming gradient.

Of course natural sunlight is the best.
But since you are up there in the NE and it's going to be COLD and dark you can't provide that to it for a few months.

So... you can get a few 100watt lights here that should take care of it. put that into a 10" reflective dome and you'll have both light and a nice heat gradient for it to move in and out of.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Chameleons/comments/1k9gvx/a_word_on_heat_sources_and_burning_your_animals/

> The humidity lately has been dropping all the way down the zero so that's the only reason I've been misting with the spray bottle.

wow, well do what you can, I'm sure it's not zero inside the home. Usually someone cooking will raise the ambient humidity a few points.

If worse comes to worse you can have a bedroom with everything in it and keep that warmer and with higher humidity than the rest of the home.

The problem with spraying and such is that it can get into the eyes and cause problems (infections)
A little inexpensive fogger

re: screen cages
These are fine but I think the DYI cages are a little bit better sadly I think they're sold out of the 18x18x36 sizes. The 2x2x4 sizes are overkill.

I've been wanting to add a fogger platform to my town. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezYp3XgGp-o but it's a bit pricey at $145. cheaper alternative is to find a cool halloween bucket/container and add this cheap mist maker https://www.amazon.com/Fitnate-Fountain-Atomizer-Humidifier-Halloween/dp/B06XDMLKQV/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1536265095&sr=8-3&keywords=water+mist+maker just thought i would share.

Thanks! I didn't know that was how they are used.

If I bought one of these would I have to build a float for it?:

http://www.amazon.com/Changeshopping-TM-Ultrasonic-Atomizer-Humidifier/dp/B00H1MD3R2/

As this is my first foray into plant growing, I just picked stuff essentially at random that looked right. :P

This is the ultrasonic fogger I got: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PAK245E/

For the first few weeks I only used water, but I switched recently to adding in a small bit of hydro nutrients: https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Gold-Hydroponics-Concentrate-Fertilizer/dp/B01LX3OXNW

The clay pellets suck, so I will advise strongly against them. I'm ordering some rockwool now, and hopefully I can get some more seeds going so I can try it all out.

You can get submerged ultrasonic foggers like these or humidifiers with a tube attached

Source: My fucking vivarium

Pump? It's 2017 sir. I'm fogging these ladies. 2 of these in each 24 quart container with ro water at 6.0ph. Nothing else. First roots pop in 5 days, ready for coir in 8 to 10 days. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00PAK245E/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Looks like this one

edit: better link

I can offer you the cheapest alternative here. AGPtEK Aluminum Mist Maker Fog Maker for Water Fountain Pond Rockery Fishtank Vase Birdbath https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PAK245E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_dL60AbRBHMP2J

Although the reviews are mediocre, if you have the thing in a tub of water near the plant, it'll definitely do the trick. Kept my 3 x 5 x 8 foot hut at a constant humidity of 33 or higher and raised the humidity near my plant up to 65. Turns on and off automatically depending on if its submerged in water or not, and if you have an electric timer with a small water pump, you're set.

Probably homemade using something like this : https://www.amazon.com/AGPtek%C2%AE-Changing-Fountain-Atomizer-Humidifier/dp/B00GSKCW70

I've also seen them referred to as "pond foggers"

Seems like it would do the trick.

I'm using a small transducer that I grabbed off amazon for about 10 bucks.

(Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PAK245E/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_9kNBDb744V3MM )

It works by atomizing water, so the fog effect is just a very fine mist. It's fine enough that for short runs there's hardly any residue, but running it for a while leaves the tiles slightly damp.

LED light at the bottom, add a bowl of water at the top with a fog/Mister in the bowl.
$20 or less at Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Fitnate-Fountain-Atomizer-Humidifier-Halloween/dp/B06XDMLKQV

Which foggers did you buy? I got this one, and even with an air pump it has a really hard time filling up a 5 gallon bucket.

Also, what nutrient solution are you using?

Not all humidifiers produce a mist. What you want is an ultrasonic atomizer.

https://www.amazon.com/AGPtek®-Changing-Fountain-Atomizer-Humidifier/dp/B00GSKCW70

http://www.walmart.com/ip/AGPtEK-Aluminum-LED-Mist-Maker-Fog-Maker-for-Water-Fountain-Pond-Rockery-Fishtank-Vase-Birdbath/49788392

You could use a low-power fogger if you could get it into the airflow to point at your head

https://www.amazon.com/Etree-Ultrasonic-Maker-Fogger-Fountain/dp/B0067XS2IG

The product I was talking about is similar to this https://www.amazon.com/Etree-Ultrasonic-Maker-Fogger-Fountain/dp/B0067XS2IG

this thing? http://www.amazon.com/Ultrasonic-Maker-Fogger-Water-Fountain/dp/B0067XS2IG

I think it's essentially this inside the cauldron.

> unflavored oil

Literally vegetable glycerin. I'd maybe get from a vape place though... not sure how pure your average kind is and whether it'd smell bad. Check nudenicotine.com for cheap definitely-vapable VG. Get 100% VG zero mg/ml nicotine.

As for vaping hardware... it's literally just a spool of wire wrapped around cotton soaking it up with power. But this might not be something you want to build yourself because something shitty has the real risk of blowing up the battery if you just leave it on. You could get a super cheap vape or something, and have it stay on? They're not really meant for that though. Or maybe something like this which is meant to stay on, then just leave VG in it.

Though dry ice might be the easiest set up of all. Depends if you want to be able to turn it on and off I guess.

This is correct. The silver thing with the white disc is the mister. Fill up the bowl with water so the silver thing is submerged. Then plug it in. The rubber plug in the bottom of the bowl stops water leaking out. The white thing may be a spacer/stand for it so you can fill the water up higher and it doesn't have to sit on the bottom. If you get it at the right height, fog should form on the surface of the bowl and flow over the edge.

Here's a similar one with lights.

http://www.amazon.com/Changeshopping-TM-Ultrasonic-Atomizer-Humidifier/dp/B00H1MD3R2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425945886&sr=8-1&keywords=mist+maker

not sure what your terrarium is gonna be but you might want to buy a plant sprayer / humidifier / water atomizer for humidity

http://www.amazon.com/Etree-Ultrasonic-Maker-Fogger-Fountain/dp/B0067XS2IG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1407806566&sr=8-2&keywords=water+atomizer

not sure how good that one is but it should mist up the terrarium