Reddit mentions: The best lighters & matches

Sure! There are a ton of great keychain accessories out there but the criteria for mine are all items must:

1: Be < 2" (Preferably 1.5")

2: Fit in my pockets comfortably (jeans)

3: Be used at least once every 3 months
(Ambu Pouch excluded)

Accessories used Most - Least

The Freekey Sytem is the foundation of the keyring and is one of those products that is so elegant in its simplicity and functionality that it seems like it should have been invented years ago.

The SOG Straight Edge Key Knife comes sharp and has held an edge pretty well over the last few months. With its tiny blade it's not going to replace your Ka-Bar anytime soon but I can almost garuntee that you will use it more frequently.

The Swiss+ Tech 6 in 1 Utility Key coupled with The Infora Key Multitool seems to be gaining ground to overtake the SOG Key Knife as top tool in the line up with flat and Phillips screwdriver heads, bottle opener, and serrated blade.

The Streamlight Nano LED Flashlight is an awesome addition to the gang and probobly the one that has saved my ass the most, there are too many times I've wasted time looking for a light source in the dark.

The 2.0 64 GB Kingston Data Traveler SE9 USB drive. Reasonable speed coupled with great durability. The cast in keyhole eliminates the possibilty of losing the USB from a weak tether and defiantly holds a perminent place in my top 5 keychain accesories. Along with its basic utility I keep a file named "If Found: Reward" on it with my information in case I lose my key ring.

The True Utility TelePen telescoping keychain pen is one of those items that doesent get the everyday recognition the others do but is totally fucking clutch when you do need it. I owe a couple side projects I've picked up to this pen, partly because of the writing aspect but more from it as a talking piece.

The InCharge Ultra Portable Charging Cable is a cool little accessory that I thought would get the boot initially but saved my ass when I was in transit and my buddy only had an Apple cable with his charger.

The True Utility FireStash Keyring Lighter is the only item on the list that I haven't actually "needed" but will probobly keep anyway because fire is such a basic necessity and if I ever DO need it I'm probobly going to name my kids True and Utility.

The Ambu Res-Cue keychain CPR mask rounds out the list but might be the most important. Along with it being being a valuable lifesaving/self protection asset it's also super useful for locating my keys. I once read something about humans being able to see more shades of red than any other color and that our minds are geared to "ook out for it. Whether that's true or not it's always the first thing I see when I misplace them and because of its shape it stops my keys from going between the seats.

I didn't have a ton of time to type this up because I'm on my phone at work but I hope this helps!

this on yours is awesome! i love bioshock it's my favorite game. although i haven't played the new bioshock yet and i love bioshock! i might play it soon though hopefully.

this on mine because this thing looks really awesome i'm a bit of a pyro and really love looking at the flame for some reason and lighting candles and such so this thing is really awesome looking xD

a lot of the things on your list look really awesome actually like the shower head color changes, beatles decal, minecraft creeper, etc... i think we do have at least a little similar taste

thanks for have multiple contests in one night that's really cool of you :3

Here's what I carry from your list:

Knife/multitool: Leatherman Skeletool - I use this so much for so many things it's ridiculous. They're as cheap as $20-$30 at Home Depot sometimes, but the average price is around $40-$45. Pliers, locking knife that's half-serrated, a bottle opener, and a reversible screwdriver bit. Add this bit kit for $5 to replace the bit with a single bit with both philips and flathead in one. (For some reason, the Skeletool ships with two bits that are just small/large flathead and small/large philips, necessitating changing the bit entirely to swap between types.)

Flashlight: I carry a Nitecore Mh12, but for your price point a Thrunite TC12, which I also own. It's based on the 18650 battery which has 4 times the capacity of an AA battery. Because this light is rechargeable via USB, you don't need a standalone charger to go with it. It's waterproof to 2 meters, shockproof to 1.5 meters, and has brightness settings ranging from 0.4 lumens (see where you're going in a dark house without waking an SO) to over 1,000 lumens, almost as bright as high-beams on a car. Yes, really. At it's lowest setting, it'll last almost 80 days. Yes, really. $69 on Amazon. Make sure you get the neutral white version (TC12 NW) as it's easier on the eyes and gives more accurate color. I've linked directly to it, bundled with about the highest-capacity battery you can get for it.

If you want to be a rockstar you could get her a 4-pack of batteries for another $50. And if she still needs to buy extra batteries, it will accept 2 CR123 batteries (not as common as AA, but still relatively common) instead, albeit with lower overall life than a single 18650 cell. Note: there are a lot of crappy, knock-off 18650 batteries out there that are not only unreliable, but also lie about their capacity and have been known to cause fires. The KeepPower batteries are great, reliable, high-capacity, and about as cheap as you'll find reliable cells for on Amazon.

Lighter: Apologies; I don't carry a lighter at the moment as I so rarely need one. /u/osufan19's suggestion of a Tesla Coil Lighter seems like a good one, though, and now has me thinking of adding it to my EDC for the coolness factor alone. $20 on Amazon, and here's a GIF of it in action. (Note: the waviness is someone blowing on it, I think.)

Keychain/holder: I like the KeySmart. However, some keys in India aren't standard sizes (depends on where she'll be), so bear that in mind. I've got the can opener and measurer on mine, but have yet to use either. I did, however, need extensions to add more keys. This will run you $19 on Amazon, but I'd recommend ordering that directly from KeySmart as they'll include the loop for attaching a car fob or nonstandard keys for free $5 more on Amazon), and other accessories are cheaper direct. I'd also recommend the extended version rather than the standard length, as longer keys (like a car key) fit better. Going direct, the total for an extended KeySmart with the loop, extensions for 2-14 kes (as opposed tio 2-8) and shipping will be $24.95.

Small bag/holder: I carry everything in my pockets, and it fits nicely/doesn't print. This may not work well for a woman, however, depending on her wardrobe. I wear jeans, and my pockets actually have room.

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Total cost: For the knife, bits, and light (minus the extra batteries), you're looking at $131.63 at Amazon. Add the Keysmart and you're at $156.58, which is only slightly above your budget. The lighter adds another $20. It does not include the bag, however, so bear that in mind.

Blazer little buddy 2 is pretty awesome. Nice thin flame that really throws like a mini jet engine. Expensive tho, but works perfectly.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01L3VAID8/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I also have an Honest lighter I got off Amazon, it has a toggle switch for regular flame and torch, but I superglued that to the torch setting. Haha. This one works excellent too and takes garbage fuel like a champ. This is a great lighter for the price.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B0793JWH4K?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image

1. most of the time frost=THC more the better
   
2. not really many side effects from bud, any smoking has the potential to cause issues if you have an chronic lung issues, so vaping or eating edibles is suggested
   
3. glass and acrylic is based on your opinion, glass taste better and I don't think that heating and inhaling plastic is good, glass all day.
   
4. grinders are cheap and make packing/loading pieces faster, but not necessary, sometimes its fun to break up sticky bud for the texture.
   
5. to properly roll a blunt or joint just buy one of these at your local shop, some hand roll, most hand roll blunts most of the time and tons of youtube clips how to do it lol
   
   Good luck, be safe, stay smart, and don't drive while blazed. :) toke on

From left to right...

1. Nibo Deluxe Butane Torch Refillable Lighter Adjustable Flame and Safety Lock - Bought this one off of eBay, works well but the flame isn't very big even on the highest setting amd you can't see how much butane is left in it.
   
   https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Nibo-Deluxe-Butane-Torch-Refillable-Lighter-Adjustable-Flame-and-Safety-Lock/312336285164?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
   
   2 - Jobon ZB 673 Torch - This one came with my Lotus Vaporizer, it seems to have a bigger butane tank in it although again you can't see it. This one also has a really big flame if you want it, but can also be adjusted down to a small flame. The clicker that makes the spark stopped working about after 1 month and was replaced with nothing more than an email. Great customer service from Lotus, these torches are warrantied for 90 days if purchased from them.
   
   https://lotusvaporizer.com/jobon-zb-673-torch/
   
   3 - Honest dual mode torch lighter - Bought this one off amazon, has the ability to act as a normal butane lighter (like a bic) or a torch. This one has a small butane tank so may not be ideal for people who take their vapcaps with them on the go, but very reliable so far.
   
   https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0793JWH4K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
   
   4 - Honest Butane Torch Lighter - Bought this one from VapeNorth (Sneaky Pete's Canadian site). This one works very well, has a thinner flame than most of my other torches. This one is sort of a precision torch because of the thinner flame, very easy to aim it exactly where you want it and of course the see through butane tank.
   
   https://vapenorth.ca/collections/accessories/products/honest-butane-torch-lighter?variant=1159626686484
   
   5 - Jobon High Capacity Triple Jet Torch Gas Lighter - Bought this one from eBay as well. It works very well but to be honest I haven't used it much because I prefer a single flame. I picked it up in case I ever wanted to vape outside where there is potential for wind.
   
   https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Jobon-High-Capacity-Triple-Jet-Torch-Gas-Lighter-Pipe-Cigar-Cigarette-Handy-Tool/143042705276?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

500mg? You're going to have a very, very bad time. That's 50 times what you should be taking.

Assuming proper technique(which I will explain shortly), 10mg will give you a good first trip. That's right, just the smallest pinprick of the stuff.

As you can see from this chart, 500mg is recommended for beginners assuming you're smoking PURE LEAF.

You're smoking a very strong extract fourty times as potent as pure leaf, which is actually unnecessarily strong, but they sell it anyways because god knows why.

So the math is easy. 500mg / 40x = 12mg.

12mg is the dose to get a common trip for the stuff you're taking.

If you want to just go balls deep on your first toke, which I don't recommend, then smoke 20mg. That's the deepest I've ever gone, and it's left me emotionally and mentally changed for life. I hope you know that you're not smoking weed here. You're not even smoking DMT. DMT can be kinder than salvia. Salvia is the "beats you up in a back alley with a bat" of all drugs. It's quick, unexpected, and brutal... but sometimes it's just what you deserve(and need) at that moment in your life.

I mentioned proper technique. You're going to want to use a propane lighter, for one. Propane lighters generate enough heat to reach the vaporization point of salvia. Regular old gas station cig lighters won't do, and you'll end up with an unpredictable trip that could be far too weak or far too strong depending on how much of the Salvinorin the lighter is able to vaporize.

I can recommend this bad baby: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EP2NB6E/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I smoked my salvia with her, and always got a predictable trip. You'll of course need to buy propane cartridges to fill it up.

The other, and possibly most important part of technique is to hold the smoke in for as long as possible. I'm saying at least 20 seconds. If you don't do this, you won't feel the trip. Every second the smoke is held in will be another step further into la-la-land. You'll be able to feel the salvinorin enter your bloodstream and warp your perception as you hold in the breath longer and longer, and it'll be interesting, to say the least.

That's it. If you follow everything here, you'll have a safe trip that doesn't burn through your entire gram in one day on a horrible nightmare trip.

I wish you safe voyage, cosmonaut.

Basic info:

Ask your friend if they can hook you up with the person they buy from. The quantities you can buy from smallest to largest: 1/8th, 1/4th, 1/2, 1 ounce. Some dealers will sell by the gram, too, but I haven't bought from anybody who deals in amounts that small in a long time. In a lot of cases your friend will end up becoming your middle man because a lot of dealers only like to do business with people they know they can trust. I've been smoking regularly for about 4 years now and I've only ever dealt with one dealer directly because he was dating my friend.

If you still live with your parents a pipe will probably be the easiest vessel to smoke out of. They are easy to conceal, but more effective than joints or blunts. Hit up any local smoke shop or head shop, but there is a little bit of etiquette required at these places. Never refer to what you're buying as a bowl or a bong (if that's what you're going for). Call it a pipe or a water pipe and do not mention marijuana at all. They know what it's for, but they won't say it either. I have seen kids get kicked out of headshops on the spot for making this mistake. If it is a legit shop they can't sell to you if you give them the impression that you are going to use their items for illegal things. Law enforcement routinely tests these places to make sure they aren't violating any laws.

Learning how to roll is a great skill, but not everybody is good at it. I personally suck at rolling so I bought a cigarette roller and it gets the job done.

Here's my advice since I literally just started a few weeks ago. This is exactly what I wished I knew before I spent money on random cigars from various sites.

1. Depending on how many sticks you plan on getting at a time, invest in a tuppedor. Don't waste your time with a wooden humidor (at least right now). I picked up these from amazon and all my ~40-50 sticks sit comfortably in there.
   

• Plastic "humidor"
  
• Hygrometer
  
• Boveda Packs, although I might lean towards the 65% next time. Also, you only need 1 pack in a tuppedor, 2 is overkill. They can also be recharged, so don't throw them away when they dry out.
  
  

2. If you have a nice brick and mortar tobacco store (not a hole in the wall place that caters only to e-cigs and accessories) near you, visit them and ask questions. If they are worth their salt, they should be fairly knowledgeable about cigars. They will point you in the right direction. I stupidly didn't do this and just kind of bought random shit online and have had mixed results with what I bought. The stuff I've bought at the store has been much, much fresher too. However, you will be spending 30-40% above what you'll pay online. I found it worth it for how much time and effort the staff spent helping me, but it is quite a bit more expensive.
   
   
3. If that's not an option, look for sampler packs online. You can find cheap options that include a bunch of different sticks so you can sample a variety. I would suggest looking at smallbatch mixes find a price you're comfortable with spending (30 to 40 should be plenty, maybe buy 2 of the $30 to $40 packs so you end with ~10 cigars) and in the comment section of your order mention that you're brand new to cigars. He should be able to make an excellent mix for a new smoker. Use code "rcigars" for 10% off (without the "", not sure if valid for the mix).
   
   
4. Also, if you don't come from a background of smoking cigarettes, stick with the mild to medium strength cigars. I smoked a few full strength ones from the samplers I got and they kicked my ass. It was unpleasant to say the least. If you DO plan on smoking a full strength cigar, smoke on a full stomach and drink something sweet with it. Sweet tea or a pop of some sort works well to quell the nicotine content.
   
   
5. Accessories. All you really need is a decent cutter and a torch lighter and you're all set.
   

• A cutter
  
• A butane lighter
  
• Fuel [Note, you can use cheaper fuel, but your lighter may get clogged with shitty zippo butane fuel.]
  
• Some sort of ashtray. You don't realize how nice it is to have one until you don't have one and have no place to rest your cigar.
  
  

6. If you do find a cigar you enjoy, try buying a 5 pack of it. Let it rest for a week or so and try them out over the course of a month or several months and see if you enjoy them as much as you did the first time. See if they get better with age. I have far too many 1 offs that I enjoyed, but would I still enjoy them a month from now? 2 months from now?
   
   
7. Oh, and generally stay away from infused cigars. They use shittier tobacco since they can mask it with flavors. The girlfriend still likes these, but I think she's starting to come around to a natural sweetness/chocolate taste instead of an artificially infused one. Plus they stink up your humidor and can potentially ruin the taste of your other cigars in them if they are in close contact.
   
   
8. Online sites that I've enjoyed purchasing from and ship quickly:
   

• http://store.cigarfederation.com/
  
• http://www.smallbatchcigar.com
  
• http://www.holts.com
  
• Stay away from Thompson Cigars. I've also had issues with jrcigars. They held my order for no reason and I had to contact them to ship it out. I ordered it over 10 days ago and still haven't seen anything, although it's supposed to be here on Tuesday.
  
  

9. Look up retrohaling. You'll taste more of your cigar this way. Warning, it does burn the hell out of your nose the first handful of times you do it. Start with a mild cigar instead of a full strength one like I stupidly decided to do. :P
   
   Hopefully this helps.
   
   Edit: Many edits to fix errors and add additional info.

Eagle torch all the way man: https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Lighter-Windproof-Refillable-Assorted/dp/B0776NN1CD

The link there is $13 for 4. I paid $13 for ONE at my local cigar shop but it was way better than the 10 dollar pos I bought with my dynavap so I’m still pleased with ‘overspending’ on it. The reservoir is large but you will definitely be refilling every few days with any lighter unless you don’t use the vap cap often. This torch overall is the most reliable of the four I have tried personally.

Trust me, there is no need to go fancier than something like this, if refueling as little as possible is your top concern then get a kitchen torch that you screw onto a canister of butane and that will be your best bet! (The flame will be a tad big, use on the smallest possible setting)

Also buy yourself some good butane, I bought Colibri after buying a crap bottle first and it’s worth it just to extend the life of your torch/its reliability. It’s really not even much more expensive than the cheap options.

One last thing, consider than anything really small and discreet is just gonna end up being hot and annoying/uncomfortable to use.

Thanks for the feedback!

For the water, I agree that I brought too much water. When I went to Olympic last year I only carried a liter of water with me at a time, but for Big Bend there is only a few streams that generally dry up in the summer (can't be relied on) and the Rio Grande. The route we went only came within about 5 miles of the Rio Grande, and the creeks were reduced to stagnant puddles by the time we went. The Big Bend website suggests a gallon per person per day of water, and we brought 4 gallons between us for 3 days, and that was still too much. I am a hyper water conservationist when I backpack, and I think I can get by with about 2 liters per person per day going forward. I had never done a desert trip before, so I went conservative to be safe.

The trash compactor bag is an intriguing idea. I have historically just done the ducks back to keep my stuff mostly dry and the dry sack to keep my sleeping bag dry so I would never freeze to death, but I like the idea of the compactor bag without the dry bag. I think I messed up my sub kilo by using a compression sack for the first 6 years that I owned it.

I have been eyeing those thermarest xlite pads. My current thermarest is about 10 years old and not very thick.

The rain jacket umbrella combo is something I have been testing recently. The Patagonia jacket I have is essentially a wind shirt, so anything more than a drizzle goes straight through it. So without an umbrella, I would be almost without rain gear. The umbrella has some other benefits like being a wind break, allowing easy night time bathroom breaks, and makes it easier to check maps while its raining and such. I think I will get an OR Helium at some point and bring that whenever it is a low chance of rain, or for particularly long trips.

I searched a bit for a torch style lighter, and these are the only ones that I have found:

Soto Which just loads generic bic style lighters into it for fuel.
Gizga Which requires you to buy separate fuel and recharge it.

I tried the Gizga one time, and I could only get a tiny bit of fuel to charge it, so it only lasted a day or two. I might have a defective unit, so I may try getting another one.

Thanks again for the advice! I will definitely test your ideas out!

I see! It’s similar, but has a condenser inside to help keep it clean and cool the vapor a bit. I use two lighters:

This zippo insert because I’m a nerd for them, and it’s portable. Z-Plus 2.0 Extreme Torch Flame Lighter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ADTCJDY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_CqTADb6QT1SBZ
It looks like they have a similar thing that comes with a case on the DynaVap website, I have not personally used this one, though.
https://www.dynavap.com/dynashop/accessories/z-plus-2-dual-torch

The other I have was a free gift when I ordered my DynaVap, and I don’t see it anywhere, now. But it is a quad flame (or, mini flamethrower). Better for at home use and heats the dyna quicker.

My recommendation is a dual flame. Easier to learn with!

I should've mentioned I bought the starter kit myself, and while I'm happy with it, I could have done without some of the extra bits since their parts are built to last anyway. My kit came with a triple burner torch (Amazon has a two pack for $17)that I like as well. Gets the cap to a vape temperature a bit faster, but does not perform as well as a single burner if you want to maximize your hits. Dynavap has a good video explaining the difference.

Sneaky Pete also made a good video with some heating tips.

If you decide to get one, enjoy! They are really fun devices and are pretty cheap to boot.

Puffitup.com is a reliable vendor - their packaging is discreet (return label is something like six5, not puffitup)

One of the best pound for pound vapes on the market right now is the vapcap M, made by dynavap. It is the vaporizer equivalent of a one hitter, and it costs $50. www.dynavap.com

You’ll need a butane lighter - dynavap sells them. Any butane torch will do, i like this one from
Amazon prime.


I’ve owned over a dozen vapes of all price ranges. As I type this, I am using my vapcap m instead of far more pricey vapes. It’s just easy, convenient, and great for taking one hit at a time.

Don’t trust shitty Chinese rebrands - whatever you decide to purchase, search it in the sidebar on this sub first. Also pm me or really anyone. We just want to help folks medicate safety and efficiently :)

Go for rolling papers and $5 roller wheel like this one.

It's a far better value than buying an injector and tubes.

I speak from experience.

The only benefit those tubes have, is you won't burn your fingers nearly as much as rolling your own with Element Rice Papers or paper rolling papers.

Taste is much better on unfiltered, but if you are a newer smoker, start with a mild/gold tobacco or Turkish, as unfiltered is stronger than filtered.

You can buy filters for rolling papers btw, a bag of 200 is usually $3-$5 at amazon.

This is the roller I use.

I bought one of those injectors, the Powermatic Mini, but seriously it sucks. It spits out tobacco on sides all the time, other times it's really noisy, it stinks like a tire (didn't bother me but did bother others).

Biggest flaw of the PM, is definitely when it doesn't fill the center/tip as thickly as the rest of the cig. Then when you go to tap your cig on an ashtray, it will bend the tube.

Really unpleasant experience. Don't even get me started on how much of a joke the PM is at filling 100mm tubes. It basically fails.

If your going the tube and injector route, just get an electric tube injector, as then it won't suck.

I honestly wish I could return my white Powermatic Mini, but I can't because Amazon won't let me.

Learn from my mistakes:

1. Don't use pipe tobacco to roll cigarettes unless you want a harsh, BBQ tasting cig, that is prone to making your lungs feel really heavy when you inhale, especially unfiltered.
   
   
2. Make sure you get a decent rolling tobacco, I really love Peter Stokkebye Turkish, Danish, Stockholm for when I want a kick ;), and I've heard Bali Shag and Drum are good as well.
   
   
3. Buy from a good site, or a nice tobacco store. Lilbrown.com and SJcigars.com are legit, safe, and trusted (had great experiences with both, but I prefer SJCigars). One warning about Lilbrown is they tell you to be 19 or older to order, but then tell UPS to require signature on 'Adults 21 years of age or older', even if your state allows tobacco sale at 18 or 19. It's obviously annoying. UPS is business day only movement btw, so I recommend sjcigars over them, as sj uses USPS (Post Office).
   
   PS: I wish this could be put in the damn wiki!

A herfador is pretty awesome.

I do have the Alec Bradley "The Burner" tabletop lighter and really like it. It's not fantastic for windy days though...

I know you said no cigars but really.... Cigars. In our wiki we have a great recommendations section look in the special occasions section for some really nice gift cigars.

I like the Silo (don't have one) but it's certainly the stealthiest and airtight, and you can also use doobtubes or get an appropriate sized titanium pill holder off amazon or somewhere for storing flower. Then you should be able to keep your vapcap and a couple of kinds of flower ready, airtight, and easy to conceal since you could put each container in a different pocket, keep them together, or whatever.

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The 'cheap' futostashes are more economical than the dynastashes, and look a bit nicer, IMHO. But if I ever get one, I'll probably be a sucker for the more expensive galaxy burl ones as well.

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Also, get a torch with some metal on the body and that will help with speeding up cooldown clicks. I have this one -- around $11 -- and my only complaint is that the flame height adjustment is not a large knob but the smaller flathead screwdriver type: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K3ZHVWSI got turned onto this model by Troy on 420vapezone who uses it on some of his review videos and says he loves it.

I prefer to use softflame lighters, just enjoy them a lot more. For that I turn to:

• IM Corona Old Boy This is apipe lighter, but absolutely fantastic.
  
• Xikar EX Solid softflame for when I don't bring my IM Corona out.
  
  For torches:
  
  
• Alec Bradley Hendrix FX3 For when it is windy, not really a fan of triple flame lighters though.
  
• Ronson Jetlite The most reliable single flame torch made. Had one for a dozen years or so before it went missing at a bachelor party. Luckily a replacement is like $6 at Walmart.
  
• Xikar Genesis A decent single flame, mine went missing at a herf unfortunately.
  
• Carbon Fiber Jet Torch A complete piece of shit. Got a 2 pack off cbid for like $3, both quit working inside of 3 days....steer clear of these, CI likes to make them an optional freebie.

Hi.

1. No, Dynavap does not send out mailed ads. You will not be receiving any solicitations from Dynavap at any of your addresses.
   
2. From what I've read, airflow (biggest functional improvement from the 2018 M) of the 2019 M rivals that of the Ti tip. The only reason you would want to get a Ti tip is if you want a quicker heat up and cool down. The stock SS tip is still heats up and cools down wicked quick. If ordering from Dynavap, I'd say go ahead and pay for the $10 upgrade if you are not on a budget. You could probably recoup some of that $10 if you plan to resell later down the road. The Ti tip is $40 by itself.
   
3. The kit isn't worth it, especially if you do not need the Dynastash. Your 2019 M should come with a green tube and does a great job at holding in odor for you to carry it around. The wax from the kit can be substituted with a tube of Burts Bee's lip balm that can be bought for $3. Use it to lubricate your O-rings to prevent it from drying out. The extra screen/CCD is great but I've been using my 2018 M heavily and have yet to find a need to replace my screen. I do not see myself needing to replace it in the near future. The lighter is cool but a 5 pack from Amazon could be had for relatively cheap and it works well. More on that in #5. The pipe cleaners are also cool but I find that you can squeeze a q-tip dipped in ISO through all of the essential parts that needs cleaning (condenser tube + tip). Furthermore, you can purchase pipe cleaners separately on Amazon. Pipe cleaners from Zen are touted to be amongst the best.
   
4. This is personal preference. If you want your your vapor cooler, lay off the airport. If you want a faster and milkier extraction, choke it (the airport). I usually get 2.5 hits per heat cycle, 1st hit I cover the airport (inhale, hold it in, exhale) then 2nd hit I alternate (on/off), 3rd hit no choke.
   
5. Single flame is best, double flame is ok, three flames should be avoided. I have all three and using a single flame provides better hits and more precision. I only use a dual flame if I'm too lazy to refill my single with butane but only utilize one fo the two flames if that makes sense. I have a Ronson single torch that I bought on clearance at a local grocery store. I also have a Blazer Venture which is a dual flame although I do not recommend it because it does not hold a lot of butane and gets hot to the touch easily. The go-to is generic or Eagle branded single torch lighters found on Amazon; 5 for $10 or 10 for $18. Literally can't lose with that even if some are DOA. The important thing is to refill with quality butane (I use Zippo and Colibri Premium).
   
   As for tips, the sweet spot to heat is the NA on "DYNAVAP" on the cap while rotating it.

Sure. It's a great little lighter. Period. The fact that it's less than 5$ at your local Walgreens makes it even better. It has a jet flame, and it runs off butane. The form factor is very Zippo-ish, but it is slightly slimmer. It has a strong child safety, but it can be removed relatively easily and the flame can be turned up to your heart's desire.

Reviews can be found here that will back up all my personal opinions: http://www.amazon.com/Ronson-Jetlite-Butane-Torch-Lighter/product-reviews/B006G1KVQ0

I really really want it!

Science/Gardens: Because bugs

Writing: Because they are food like and cute

Movie: Its a classic

Book: Cuz its John Green

Spirituality: It smells nice

Art Supplies: I love deco paint pens

Math: Because they talk about science and math stuffs

Travel: Because you always need one

Food: You need to live out your childhood dreams sometimes

Nature/outdoors: Because Nature can be scary and filled with "Nope"

Fun stuff:

• If your not already watching you should be
  
• Its good to have something to do with friends

I have the Zico version of this dual flame torch. I prefer the dual flame. I know a lot of people preach single flame, but I find when I hold the dual flame perpindicular to the cap and put it right between the flames I get the best combo of even, fast heat up. I would recommend against getting this particular model. It has a door that closes over the jets, which seems nice at first, but really just retains a lot of heat and makes it slightly uncomfortable for longer sessions.

I might get something like this from Amazon as backups, but go to a local cigar shop or smoke shop and find a nicer torch for your main driver. I've got a couple shitty torches and they're shitty, but all my second tier are noticeably nicer. For instance, the action on my Zico dual is more smooth than on my Eagle dual. The Eagle works, but it is definitely a back up since it's more uncomfortable to use and less reliable.

You don't need a fancy torch. I got my Vapcap and instantly it became my main driver, so I went out and invested in a couple nicer torches since I was going to be spending time with them.

Also, get something transparent or with a good window so you can see how much butane you have less. That's another strike against my Eagle, I never know if I have fluid to last the day and need a backup.

Yeah, I had that issue too. I'm not sure what exactly fixed it, but I did take it apart, clean everything off, and put it back together.

Before that I had been heating like 5-10 seconds after the click and it was still barely working.

Didn't matter what heat source I used, BIC, stove, Butane torch.

After re-assembling I did notice that I got VASTLY superior results by holding the cap in the flame, so the flame wraps around the cap, than I did slowly heating from farther away. Added benefit is it heats up in about 20 seconds instead of 35.

Lighter: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA80NJO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Maybe the metal needs to be "broken in"? Idk, that doesn't make any sense to me but I can't imagine another explanation for the night and day performance difference that didn't coincide (in terms of timing) with any of the changes I made. It just randomly started working right, more like the OG vapcap.

Finally, I will say that while with the OG vapcap it wasn't necessary to cover the "carb" to get a good hit, with the M if I don't inhale with the carb covered I get nothing at all from it :/

I love to roll them! I got an MFLB so I don't smoke much anymore. It feels like I'm wasting it if I smoke it alone. It's so fun to roll them. I'm not very good but when it comes out nice, I'm content. There's also those rollers that help you out and cheap too. I've never used it but like I said, rolling is fun.

Here's a link to the "rolling machine"

http://www.amazon.com/Zig-Zag-Cigarette-Rolling-Machine/dp/B001GPJY64/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1289816942&sr=8-8

The best method to do this is to get a new pencil, and your ciggies, then lightly roll your fingers on the cigarette, until the tobacco falls out. then continue it. If you roll the cig between your fingers too hard, the paper becomes soft. Then grind your weed. This does not work even half as well if you break it up. Use the cigarette to pick up the weed and tap the filter on a table to get it to fall tot he bottom. Do this until about 1/4 of the tube it filled. Stick the unsharpened pencil, lead side in, into the cig (it should fit perfectly) and carefully pack down. Continue this until you have what you want. Then break off the filter and smoke up. It will take fucking forever to do this though. This used to be my go-to method. Now I only do it if I want to take a couple of joints into a concert.

The easier thing to do if you can't roll is to go on Amazon and get a zig zag roller. And then buy 1.25 papers at a gas station or something. Then you can pop out perfect little joints. And there's a booklet included with the roller that teaches you exactly how to use it.

Thanks. As far as packs go, I'm also pretty set on only buying Ospreys in the future because of their lifetime policy. I've got a Farpoint, a Talon and a Rev, but I'm weighing my options until my intro main pack that isn't an Osprey falls apart.

Separating is good, too. The Tesla lighters are just as heavy (if not heavier) as a Zippo or the ferro rods bc of the internal battery, but they're also SUPER fun. I've been using this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016P8A1K4 It's like a mini taser. I fully charged mine when I got it and tried to count how many times I could turn it on for 3 second durations, and I stopped counting at 200 only because I got bored with just pressing the button.

thanks for the help. i'm definitely getting more consistent rips, but i'm going through a bunch of bud. i'm sure i'll get better and less wasteful

what torch do you use? I'm using the honest torch, but ordered this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MH48Y5A/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Torches arw always a tough decision, different torches for different uses for different effects. Double Torches are the sweet spot for me. Decent heat up time and fuel consumption is adequate. The one thing to remember is to bleed them before each fill to let the air out to get optimal results for lighting up on the first try.

I have this model and i love it:

Scorch Torch Tactical Ergonomic Angle Double Jet Flame Torch Cigarette Cigar Lighter w/Keychain and Strap (Gunmetal) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G9GWANE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_2f32Bb5RJGEWM


I want to get this one next cause it looks really cool :

Scorch Torch Matterhorn Double Jet Flame Butane Torch Cigarette Cigar Lighter (Gunmetal) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JSCV8MA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Ll32BbKW7MQH9


Hope this helps bro.

This is my favorite lighter, it's a triple flame, so it's good for everything except getting the milkiest hits out of a water piece. For thick bong rips I suggest using a single flame. I have an honest single flame torch from my sticky brick. Works super great.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LJVW0FW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_RM2yCb3GQJFHX

If you have a zippo, you can get a butane torch insert. I have this one ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JXF7KW4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jWuBzbM7T7ZED ) but there are other brands as well on Amazon.
It has served me very well, lasted about a year so far. I fill it up maybe once every week or week and a half with fairly regular use. The flame isn't the biggest or the hottest, but I really love mine.

I would recommend fully packing, the easiest way to do so is to use the Dynavap like a straw - take the cap off and "sip"up some bud into the chamber, it will fill it nice and full with plenty of airflow. I find this gets me a good 5-7 hits per bowl, and if im alone I usually get a decent high out of 1 with high tolerance. as for the BIC I would avoid it and find a decent lighter like this one https://www.amazon.com/Vertigo-Cyclone-Triple-Lighter-Charcoal/dp/B00LJVW0FW/ref=sr_1_2?hvadid=323595996874&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9002357&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=b&hvrand=255410970231067064&hvtargid=kwd-315003177522&hydadcr=19145_10832515&keywords=vertigo+quad+lighter&qid=1568745741&sr=8-2

I am going to put in a vote for a Sticky Brick. I own and love both devices, and the reason I'm going for the Brick is because the way it's used is more reminiscent of smoking. It feels like you're smoking out of a bowl.

Also, when it comes to "Fast and hard hitting", both devices are exactly that, but the Brick can vape faster and hit harder, relatively speaking.

Lastly, if at any point the sesh has more than one person, the Brick is, in my opinion, the only option. Vapcaps are a very personal experience, due to bowl size.

My torch recommendation is this: Eagle Torch
It is Prime eligible as well. I hope you find a vape that prevents your mother from smoking.

Edit: Forgot to recommend some butane: Colibri This is also Prime eligible.

Ive had pretty good luck with this triple. Can usually get a year outta them

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G9ERJVO/ref=oh_aui_i_sh_in_o1_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For singe flame the eagle jumbos are always a great value and i typically lose them before they break. Mine all came full of butane.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GA3U9XO/ref=oh_aui_i_d_old_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you can't/don't roll joints but still want to smoke them there are other rolling machines out there.


This is a great example. Roll perfect joints without filters and without skill or practice.

If you're willing to bump your budget up to about $35-40 you could get them a table top lighter. Not many people have them and it's a super cool accessory. I know I'd be thrilled to get one for Christmas. =)

In my experience, Sticky Bricks can go through herb pretty quick. I tend to pack large bowls though. People say they're good for micro dosing, but I just don't pack small.
I was using a small Honest torch that came with my Jr. Recently switched to a larger Honest torch. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0793JWH4K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I picked this one up from amazon the other day. There are a lot of good triple and quad flames. Less selection on single flames but this one is built like a tank and works like a champ. As soon as I got it I ordered another one. single torch

Buy the cheapest, disposable lighter set you can find. My tip.

I feel like a lighter is such an easily lost (or stolen) thing that buying something expensive isn't worth the money.

If you still want something efficient, then check these out:

Tesla Coil Lighters. Also great conversation starters.

If you want something with a flame, I'd recommend torch lighters - windproof, quick and even stylish in some cases.

I love my Alec Bradley "The Burner". It holds a lot of butane and has a big soft flame. You have to be real careful with touch ups though. :)

EDIT: Doh I just saw you said you were going to buy a burner anyway... Well just make sure you purge all the gas and air out of it before you refill. I've heard of these things breaking it that purge isn't done properly.

IMHO, these are a better idea and much safer:

Switch Flame Butane Torch Pipe Lighter #109

45 Degree Angle Jet Flames Butane Torch Lighter Edition 4

Windproof Triple Jet Flame Torch Cigar Lighter

It's to easy to do serious personal/property damage with a propane torch.

Amazon has a good selection of pipe/cigar torches and culinary torches better suited for "sitting around the living room" use. Any decent tobacco shop probably carries at least one torch lighter.

I recommend getting a butane unit to start out...They can often hit heavier and be more efficient than other portables.

Dynavap M is $57 shipped... You'll just need any single flame torch lighter and a can of good butane(Colibri is good)... I like the cheap Eagle torches they sell on ebay and Amazon 5 for ~$10.

StickyBrick will run $100-$200 and also needs a torch lighter.

EDIT: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06Y6GW3QR

Get a Ronson Jetlite! I'm deeply in love with mine. Cheap, hardy, effective.

http://www.amazon.com/Ronson-Jetlite-Butane-Torch-Lighter/dp/B006G1KVQ0

Not bad, looks a bit 'bumpy' though..

Did you break it down more than what you have left in your hand there?

Also, if you're going to use the 'dollar trick', might as well get you a cigarette roller, roll perfect joints every time and fast.

Takes away from the 'hand rolling' I guess, but it's quite efficient. I usually only use mine for actually rolling cigs, don't smoke many joints any more really.

It is! Thought it wasn’t originally lol

it started as a cool zippo from amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ya/ref=oh_aui_ia_bia_view?ie=UTF8&ac=bia&reorder_params=B0763ZH68K%2C111-0135961-7908244

I then bought a z plus dual touch insert (i like this over the others always lights and has a clear fuel cell so its easy to check) https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ADTCJDY?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title

Just buy this lighter. Dynavap also uses these for some of their kits, but you can just get two of them for less than 9 bucks each here, and they work great. All my cigar-smoking friends swear by them too.

Honestly it might still just be the torch. I have the cheap single flame that came with the brick and it just doesn't work with the brick for me (I use it with the vapcap and lighting tealights pretty often though). A stronger single flame like the zico t38 I think it's called have worked much better for me. I love the brick but do really dislike how much performance differs based on torch


I'm still trying to find the perfect torch but here is a link to the one I mentioned Zico T-38 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MH48Y5A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_zyfcAbW4SKMJZ

I use my Every Day Carry items....every day....which is why I carry those items, every day.

Used my Fenix UC35 last night during our snow storm to keep an eye on the dogs, and to explore the dark winter wilderness a little bit. I also daily a warm knit hat and gloves for the season...which are also useful in the snow, for obvious reasons. Cut a very long loose string off my coat lastnight as well with the blade I've been carrying around for almost a decade now, my Sypderco Endura 4. My smaller Streamlight Stylus Pro wasn't needed, but was there if for some reason I developed a use for it.

Just recently got a Leatherman Squirt PS4 which I carry in the little coin pocket of my jeans. It's scissors are very handy in replacement of my older Victorinox Classic which works great for the tweezers and toothpick, but it's scissors have had it. Anyway, I used the Leatherman to file down a couple finger nails I tore up lifting a CVT onto a cart two days ago. The single cut file was good enough to keep the jagged edges of my nails from snagging my gloves, so it's alright in my book.

Frequently use my lighter, a Ronson Jetlite to flip around as a fiddle item or to light periodic items asunder, or to bond them to each other (in the case of paracord).

Ok, $170... here is how I would break it down for a first-timer:

2019 Dynavap M ... $60 direct

Grindhouse Shift ... $60 new on eBay

Fury2 WPA ... $13 shipped with PUFFEDUP code at PIU

This torch https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CYW8FZ5/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 :$20

Enough quality Butane to last a looong time: https://www.amazon.com/Colibri-Premium-Butane-Refill-Lighter/dp/B005ME902S/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=butane&qid=1555346654&s=hpc&sr=1-5 ... $12

Then you can get a cup of coffee with your leftover $5.

Later down the road if you can scrounge up another $30, make a cheap induction heater for the Dynavap. It's easy and they're awesome. Ask me for simple instructions if you want.

Honest Butane Lighter. Highly recommend as the quality is superior to the one that comes w/the DynaVap starter pack.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0793JWH4K/

Agreed on the amazing quality of the M & the crap quality of the two flame torch as I did the exact same thing. EveryDayCarry.com claimed this Scorch Torch was popping so I ordered one. Delivery is today so I have no clue if it's any better. Good thing I have a three day weekend to thoroughly test it out! :-)

I've been using these and they're doing great so far. They are larger than I anticipated. Not as mobile as I'd like.

I'm assuming you've been working with something more like this?

Edit: I think it was u/Doobitron that suggested the Eagles I bought, so, shout out to him.

https://www.amazon.com/Vertigo-Cyclone-Triple-Lighter-Charcoal/dp/B00LJVW0FW


Also it could be the butane that you use. I had the same issues before and then I did some research and that is usually the problem. Buy good butane like Vector 14x or Xikar high performance high altitude. I used lesser brands before and through away lighters, luckily they weren’t expensive. Also make sure you bleed the lighter fully before each refill. But I have two of those lighters I linked and they work flawlessly.

I use a pretty cheap tri flame butane torch lighter I found on Amazon. Works really well regardless of weather.

Vertigo by Lotus Cyclone Triple Torch Cigar Lighter Charcoal 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LJVW0FW?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Edit: lol I think this might be exactly what you have.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G9GWANE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I got this a lil over a month ago for my dynavaps, its quckly become one of my favorite torches. Decent size tank for how compact it is, very comfortable to use. 2 small double flames allow for good heat penetration with very even distribution. The 2 drawbacks it has is no visible tank level and it doesn't work real well with the flame inverted(heating up from underneath.)

I keep reccomending these becuase they are really awesome and practical. Electronic Lighters They are so better then any gas lighters and are really cool!

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Thanks for the heads up. I was thinking of getting this one (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K3ZHVWS/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A22KTUTCR6O1Y9&psc=1) I saw a guy use on a video of the "M". It looked so unnoticeable in the video, mainly because this one allows you to burn the pen while it's vertical. Only downside is the single flame, which as you said, takes longer. What do you think about that? Thanks again. :)

Recently picked up a Scorch Torcch Skyline Triple Flame for $12 from Amazon shipped (Prime) as a spare travel butane lighter and feel it's worth the money. The lighter is constructs from metal and the lighting mechanism has a satisfying feel to it usually only comes with more expensive lighters.

Scorch also have a more sleek model for $15 that I may pick one up as well.

Cool video! I thought you moved through at a good pace.

You could replace the rubber with cotton balls dipped into petroleum jelly and then wrapped in tin foil. They're like little candles.

Zippo makes a refillable butane insert if that's what you're looking for in terms of a lighter?

You would probably enjoy a smaller torch than those flambé style torches.

Everything on dynavap's website is solid. I guess amazon considers them 'torch/cigar lighters', so something like this or this. I haven't tried either of those, but just trying to give you a reference.

You can actually check out your local smoke shops for them too. However, they usually don't have as big of selection and can be a little more expensive. Aliexpress is would also be a good place to check out, if you don't mind 1 month boat shipping.

Google peanut lighters.
Uses lighter fluid, doesn't leak and doesn't let fluid evaporate.
Maratac brand seems to have the most varieties, made with different material from stainless steel, copper, aluminum, brass and different sizes, They look more well made than most chinese-copies and are within your budget.
See here
https://countycomm.com/collections/fire

You can find a really cheap one on Ebay, chinese-made, chrome-plated. They work just fine but the finishing will wear off if you carry it in your pocket.

I have one of these
https://www.amazon.com/True-Utility-FireStash-Lighter-Multi-Tool/dp/B007IOHPQS
Seems to the cheapest on Amazon too, this one about 1.8 inches tall.
The finishing is similar to zippo's black ice finishing, but mine has wore off already.

This one here
https://www.amazon.com/True-Utility-Fire-Stash-Multi-Tool/dp/B00ZRWJVGA
I think this one is new, looks promising.

I don't have the split pea, but I have this one and love it.

http://www.amazon.com/Utility-TU262-FireStash-Miniature-Lighter/dp/B007IOHPQS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1408469301&sr=8-2&keywords=split+pea+lighter

The vertigos. 2 for $17 on Amazon. Good price point and very dependable. Had mine for over 2 years now. The only downside I found is that sometimes the little screw on some of them comes loose between the top and the tank. Easy to tighten back up with a small screwdriver like one that comes in those eye glass repair kits.

https://www.amazon.com/Vertigo-Cyclone-Triple-Lighter-Charcoal/dp/B00LJVW0FW

I enjoy mine very much. http://www.amazon.com/Z-Plus-Torch-Flame-Lighter-Insert/dp/B00JXF7KW4

But let's be honest, I also have a Bic in my pocket, car, jacket, table and so on.

I wouldn't say most people, because you have to buy them separate from the Zippo lighter. Just people who don't feel like filling it up about once a week. I've heard great things about the inserts though. This is a popular one.

The true hero for the Sticky Brick: Zico T 38

I'd dig throught the cushions of your couch and see if you can rustle up $7 more and get an ALEC BRADLEY BURNER I love mine, totally worth the purchase

That's my favorite one for the moment. I also got a couple of these that have been going strong for a couple years: https://www.amazon.com/Scorch-Torch-Skyline-Lighter-Gunmetal/dp/B00G9ERJVO/ref=pd_sim_121_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00G9ERJVO&pd_rd_r=GG3YN4CYZNN3AZHBRDEB&pd_rd_w=ouC0N&pd_rd_wg=VWQP6&refRID=GG3YN4CYZNN3AZHBRDEB&th=1

I had the same problem until I discovered this. I know I know...I'm a disgrace to the joint rolling world...but seriously, works like a charm and you end up having perfectly rolled joints to enjoy! And for under $5, you can't beat it.

I have been really liking this one:

GOLDNCONN Jet Torch Cigar Lighter, Strong Flame Windproof Butane Fuel Cigarette Lighter (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0793JWH4K/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_3JgMDbRC7WAQJ

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Cool, I was trying to experiment and find that out. Thanks for letting us know :D! I ended up getting a torch for $8 on Amazon, it's so much quicker.

These from Amazon are great. I've use a few and they burn powerful

EDIT: ah, you said strike anywhere... these are not. still recommended

I have not tried the unfiltered tubes, I would suggest just getting the regular papers and rolling them by hand the old fashioned way or with this, if you really want unfiltered smokes. More Info. But if you do want the unfiltered tubes, I also could only find the Athey tubes. Some sites to get them are Amazon-perbox, Amazon-5boxes,Bec's,Loose Tobacco. If you do get the Athey tubes, you will need an injector type machine. I use the Mikromatic. I know the tobacco store I regular will order stuff for me if I ask. Try going in and asking them to order them for you. They might just do it, and you can save on shipping and the risk is nonexistent.

>What do you use to smoke it out of and where are you buying it from?

This is the way I dab... (I love this lady's channel :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-donJdy8xgE

Edited to add:

I use shatter from Muv...

I use a 12" beaker from TAG https://www.thickassglass.com/ ... I got mine in a subscription box for $60...

I use this quartz banger (without the insert) https://www.dhgate.com/product/25mm-xl-flat-top-quartz-banger-phat-bottom/404808110.html

And I use this torch: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0713WT2N9/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and this butane https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005ME902S/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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With vaporisers like the dynavap M or a sticky brick, ones that are typically called battery free or butane powered vapes they use a lighter like this

You can use a normal lighter with the M but I wouldn’t recommend it, they produce a lot more soot

Thanks I ordered the $9 one! this guy here, got good reviews http://www.amazon.com/Scorch-Torch-Skyline-Cigarette-Lighter/dp/B00EP2NB6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1393661762&sr=8-2&keywords=scorch+torch

I, like you, had a cheap single-flame torch when i first got my Dynavap. I hated how long it took for me to hear it up as well, especially in windy or cold areas. I found these triple flame torches with great reviews on amazon and decided to order them. They come two to a pack at around $15 for the pack. So far, they’re very reliable, but I’m not too worried about that since they come with a lifetime warranty. and heat up my M much, much faster than my original single flame lighter.

I just got this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074BCLPN3/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and it's been pretty awesome. My second favorite is the Vertigo Cyclone II and third is my Vertigo insert for my Zippo. The butane quality makes a big difference, here is the stuff I've been using and had no issues: https://www.amazon.com/Colibri-Premium-Butane-Refill-Lighter/dp/B005ME902S/ref=sr_1_4_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1537313074&sr=1-4&keywords=colibri+butane+fuel

I think there is a chart on FC that has different butane and their quality, Ronson is probably the worst.

I think it would last way longer than three weeks. The rubber O ring seems pretty good and if i keep it tight and fill the lighter as much as it will take then i wouldn't be surprised if thing would last indefinably.
Here is the one i've got.

I just ordered this. If it works half as well as it looks I'll be happy. It can be had from Cigarbid for about half the price.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005EQR3LO/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr2_1?qid=1459196550&sr=8-1-fkmr2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=alex+bradley+lighter

Yeah I really like them. I've had several for around a year and they all still work fine.

Eagle torch

I am prepper and a FIL, here are some things I can never have enough of...

• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NGYGCH2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
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• https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00345OMR0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
  Your FIL will be thrilled that you support his prepping no matter what you decide to give him!
  

I'd suggest getting a Ronson jetlighter. Similar design, but cleaner burning and easier to fill.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006G1KVQ0/ref=s9_simh_gw_p201_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=131KNXRGV3M2714YD2G9&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846

Edit: Full site link

Not everyone can just roll blunts or joints. Pretty much a make shift Zig Zag roller like these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001GPJY64/ref=mp_s_a_1_1/186-8741664-1654669?qid=1404703272&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40

These torch lighters are pretty cool

fortissimo

in one hand I have a cooking torch (like one of those things you attach to a can of fuel.. paint can sized)

in the other hand I have 14" glass bong... with a titanium nail in the stem

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the flame from the torch is parallel to the table.

the bong is about 1" too short for the nail to reach the flame..

I have a small cutting board, that's about 1" thick.. so I just put the bong on the cutting board, and the torch on the counter. viola.

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you need a lighter where the flame comes out parallel to the table. and is ~3" (or whatever) high. sit the dyna vertically.. maybe the flame just lines up?

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https://smile.amazon.com/Eagle-Lighter-Windproof-Refillable-Assorted/dp/B0776NN1CD/

This is the one I use. I love it!

http://www.amazon.com/Z-Plus-Extreme-Torch-Flame-Lighter/dp/B00ADTCJDY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1453833262&sr=8-2&keywords=zplus

I use this tabletop cigar lighter, works great: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EQR3LO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Most people like the triple and quad torch lighters that Dynavap sells. I would steer clear of their Zippo-insert double-flame, as it has a tiny fuel tank and is annoying to refill.

I grabbed some of [these] (https://www.amazon.com/Single-Lighter-Windproof-Refillable-Cigarette/dp/B00GA80NJO/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1520709327&sr=8-6&keywords=torch+lighter) and they work really well as long as it's the weather isn't too bad. They don't do too well in cold, windy conditions.

Late to the party, but I've recently been liking the ScorchTorch and it's built in punch.

Ones similar to this are recommended a lot on this sub.

Some people like Xikar lighters because the lifetime warranty.

I've used both of these for a couple of years without any problems.

It's partially the non uniformity but also it's because there aren't the fillers that normally cigarette add to give better burning properties. You'll never be able to replicate a cigarette with weed because they burn at very different rates


The way to fix it is get one of these. https://www.amazon.com/Zig-Zag-Roller-Perfect-Cigarettes/dp/B001GPJY64.
Basically you want all the material to be uniformly compressed a lot bit.

Wrap the fuse with nichrome wire and connect it across a lithium battery. Also, arc lighters already exist, and they work pretty well.

https://www.amazon.com/Tesla-Coil-LightersTM-Rechargeable-Windproof/dp/B016P8A1K4/

Just buy this and never worry about it again. Rolls perfect every single time.

Me too. I don't know if it's just bad luck or karma coming back to get me, but all the fancy ones just don't cut it.

Actually, I have a Scorch Torch. Apologies - I have a Vector too, and it also works well, but my every day is a Scorch. Here's the link to Amazon. $10!

https://www.amazon.com/Scorch-Torch-Skyline-Lighter-Gunmetal/dp/B00G9ERJVO/ref=sr_1_3_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1468517669&sr=1-3&keywords=cigar+lighter

Or just get one of these at a store, its probably the best $5 smoking investment I've made.

http://www.amazon.com/Zig-Zag-Roller-Perfect-Cigarettes/dp/B001GPJY64

I suggest using a ZigZag roller. You end up with an evenly packed mj cig every time. Slow, even burn with very little hassle.

My secret santa got me one, this year and I love it.

http://www.amazon.com/Zig-Zag-Roller-Perfect-Cigarettes/dp/B001GPJY64

I like buying refillable lighters because bics have way too much plastic. I've got one of these guys with a bit of hemp wick wrapped around it, secured by a hair tie. Giant fluid reservoir and it's handy for melting the ends of rope and stuff.

ETA: My lighter rig

I haven’t ordered any dual torches from Amazon, but I’ve had a good experience with this Vertigo triple torch.

Did you know Amazon will donate a portion of every purchase if you shop by going to smile.amazon.com instead? Over $50,000,000 has been raised for charity - all you need to do is change the URL!

Here are your smile-ified links:

zico t38

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Dynavap sells a few torches, like this one It has 3 flames. Many people prefer a torch with only a single flame, like these They tend to be more reliable,
and can provide bigger hits due to higher bowl temperatures.



As for fuel (the butane itself), higher quality fuel is recommended as it leaves no taste and won't clog up your lighters.

Brand 1
Brand 2

One can will refill a lighter about 20 times, depending on how big the lighter is. I've found that a full lighter last me days of heavy usage.

How to refill

If you want perfect cigarette-sized joints, get a roller. They're cheap & produce consistent, reliable results.

I have the Zplus 2.0 Extreme and I'm really happy with it https://amazon.com/dp/B00ADTCJDY

Butane burns into Carbon dioxide and water vapor. Nothing to worry about, as long as you get good stuff. Here's what I've been using, and here's a list.

Or head to your local C-store spend less than 5 dollars on a cigarette roller.

Perfect joint everytime.

Zig zag brand:http://www.amazon.com/Zig-Zag-Roller-Perfect-Cigarettes/dp/B001GPJY64

I have had these single flame lighters for 2 years and recently tried out these triple flame torches because I wanted to heat in a hurry. The single flame allows for more temperature control but the triple flame is more wind resistant and heats faster. I like both but now use my homemade induction heater the most.

Alec Bradley The Burner table lighter.

http://www.amazon.com/Alec-Bradley-Burner-Table-Lighter/dp/B005EQR3LO

Basically a bunsen burner but you can actually set the flame really low and get a nice toast going. Huge full tank so you don't have to refill often.

This is what I've been using for my VapCap:
https://www.amazon.com/Colibri-Premium-Butane-Refill-Lighter/dp/B005ME902S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481781192&sr=8-1&keywords=colibri+butane

High quality butane and free 2 day shipping if you have prime (or know someone with prime)

Zico T-38 is comfortable, and durable single flame torch. It’s the go-to for my Vapcaps.

Regarding torches spending 20+ for torches isn't necessary i grabbed one of these at a corner store, its been going strong for 6 months.

GOLDNCONN Jet Torch Cigar Lighter Strong Flame Windproof Butane Fuel Cigarette Lighter (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0793JWH4K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_D9vXDbRE9BSW5

Look for a Tesla Lighter, my brother has this style one but with a shiny black pantjob...they are awesome...so many slo-mo videos have been made lol

Here: https://www.amazon.com/Tesla-Coil-LightersTM-Rechargeable-Windproof/dp/B016P8A1K4

Sorry I'm on mobile.

http://www.amazon.com/Zig-Zag-Cigarette-Rolling-Machine/dp/B001GPJY64

I rolled by hand for years... until this bad boy.

Rolling machines are pretty cheap. I have one similar to this: $6 with shipping http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001GPJY64?cache=5682fee4cecf7ce364a21c5ac88e3eb6&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&qid=1406224950&sr=8-4#ref=mp_s_a_1_4

Get the zippo insert. Thats my fave cigar lighter! https://www.amazon.com/Z-Plus-Torch-Flame-Lighter-Insert/dp/B00JXF7KW4

Another possibility is this. I got them for my dad and my brother last year (their birthdays are a couple weeks apart). It's an electric coil lighter made by Tesla. Basically, it's a lighter that uses electricity rather than fire. It's kind of cool because it's new technology, but it's also useful because you can use it in the wind and rain and it doesn't affect anything.

https://www.amazon.com/Tesla-Coil-LightersTM-Rechargeable-Windproof/dp/B016P8A1K4

I know I’m not offering a solution, but have you tried Vertigo triple torches? I’ve dropped them tons of times but they both work like the day I got them.

https://www.amazon.com/Vertigo-Cyclone-Triple-Lighter-Charcoal/dp/B00LJVW0FW

It's basically a 2 torch zippo. Its pretty good.

I was originally just going to get the Z Plus 2 insert from amazon, but that costs $18. With the 420 discount I got the Z Plus 2 with zippo for $12.

I usually tour Amazon Canada. They have a decent selection of torch lighters.

Here is the link to a 3rd party zippo torch insert. Zippo actually makes a 1st party one now but not in Canada.

Zippo Torch Insert

I've been using this Colibri branded stuff... https://www.amazon.com/Colibri-Premium-Butane-Refill-Lighter/dp/B005ME902S/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=butane&qid=1568073321&s=gateway&sr=8-4

I don't own any what I would call premium lighters, but they seem to run well on this stuff.

Outdoors I use triple flame, indoors I use this single flame. The triple heats up the cap faster and stronger against the wind. However, I much prefer the vapcap indoors and with the single torch.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LJVW0FW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_DuJkDb7G8EK8W

Just bought these and the click it's not too bad. Small enough to hide and easy to see how much fuel you have left.

• Opinel Trekking
  
• Ronson Jetlite Lighter
  
• Nite Ize S Biners (I prefer the locking #4 better, but that's up to you)
  
• Kershaw Shuffle
  
  Among many other things, but these are the ones that make it into my rotation most often.
  

Although I would recoment a 110mm, this is a good one.

good old reliable bic ... however ... a bit of sleuthing has revealed this wallet-friendly, angled gem - http://www.amazon.com/Degree-Flames-Butane-Lighter-Edition/dp/B005TOOI5A/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1370887671&sr=8-11&keywords=windproof+lighter

i hope i don't do something against the rules by sending a link

www.amazon.de/dp/B007IOHPQS/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_GP55yb2AV1D34

this one

Yeah. Here is the lighter from the True Utility website and here it is on Amazon. I paid about 10 bucks with shipping from Amazon. The most it should cost anywhere would be about 20 bucks.

Vertigo by Lotus Cyclone Triple Torch Cigar Lighter Charcoal 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LJVW0FW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_LEPNAbMS6KRM6

$18 - 2pack of triple torch lighters. I’ve had them for months with daily use. If you use good quality butane (like your Colibri) they should last. Went through 4 lighters in a month before I found these.

The zico t38 is $10. Works reliably, easy to adjust flame size and refill.

Looks like it's actually $21. Here's the one I have.
And with a $17 arc lighter you're still under $50. I've got the Tesla coil but it's just a single arc, so you might want to check out the dual arc types. I don't have any experience with those though

This helps me out alot

The larger Eagle torches are a solid choice. Large tanks last a long time and require little flame adjustment. Purge before refill and use quality butane.

The smaller angle eagle torches are nice for stashes. Reliable but small for daily use when you could use the larger model.

Z-Plus 2.0 Extreme Torch Flame Lighter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ADTCJDY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_eH.kDbTRC00GE

Def looks like that one

I like using the Djeep lighters for disposable lighters and I use this little propane torch. I also carry waterproof matches in my INCH bag.

Mine's: http://www.amazon.com/Zig-Zag-Roller-Perfect-Cigarettes/dp/B001GPJY64/ref=wl_it_dp_v_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2HEP1PXR8784V&coliid=I1NI50GBFKV0BV ($3.89)

Which I don't need, but I'm lazy.

Apparently it's a 'health and personal care' item?

Close second is a used copy of Eyeless in Gaza ($4.65)

Just get one of these. It's way less complicated and definitely cheaper

I've had this lighter for 3 years now, through a couple cop stops and it's been awesome, no issues filling it at all https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G9ERJVO/ref=mp_s_a_1_5_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1519818503&sr=8-5&keywords=metal+cigar+lighter&dpPl=1&dpID=31jKapjetaL&ref=plSrch

It’s obviously not the highest end torch, but bought this 2 pack a few months ago and they have been very solid. Refilled each of them a few times already without issue.

Vertigo Triple Flame

I've tried several, and my favorite is Vertigo Cyclone:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LJVW0FW/

Unlike most on Amazon, reviewers don't seem to have a problem with it suddenly pooping out. You can see the butane level. And three torches means quick heating.

These are an option. No experience with them but I have read they work well. Probably different brands out there to check, this was the first one I came across.

You can get this one on amazon for like $20. Not an X but still the same thing. I've got one.

You can prolly find them around town. Look for a 'smokers choice', or any tobacco shop. A head shop might have them too. They are considered a legitimate smoke accessory, they might be behind the counter at Rite-aid/Walgreens.



amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Zig-Zag-Roller-Perfect-Cigarettes/dp/B001GPJY64/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343880417&sr=8-1&keywords=zig+zag+roller

Here's the roller on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Zig-Zag-Roller-Perfect-Cigarettes/dp/B001GPJY64

Buy at Amazon: $4.23

Cheaper models on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Tesla-Coil-Lighters%E2%84%A2-Rechargeable-Windproof/dp/B016P8A1K4/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1473349710&sr=8-3&keywords=arc+lighter

There's a wide selection on Amazon. I got a cheap one for 20$. Here's what I got http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B016P8A1K4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?qid=1464042634&sr=8-1&keywords=tesla+lighter&pi=SY200_QL40