(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best bottles & water filtration systems
We found 945 Reddit comments discussing the best bottles & water filtration systems. We ran sentiment analysis on each of these comments to determine how redditors feel about different products. We found 230 products and ranked them based on the amount of positive reactions they received. Here are the products ranked 21-40. You can also go back to the previous section.
21. Nalgene Stainless Bottle 38 oz.
- Features the Nalgene lifetime warranty
- Features same size threads as a nalgene widemouth
- Made from durable stainless steel
- Rope pack loop/lid attachment
- Holds up to 38oz of fluid
Features:
Specs:
Color | stainless |
Height | 7.99999999184 Inches |
Length | 2.99999999694 Inches |
Size | 38 oz |
Weight | 0.73 Pounds |
Width | 2.99999999694 Inches |
22. Katadyn Vario Water Filter, Dual Technology Microfilter for Personal or Small Group Camping, Backpacking or Emergency Preparedness
- A simple turn engages a ceramic pre-filter for long life in dirty water or a pleated glass fiber filter in normal conditions
- Produces up to two quarts per minute in the faster flow mode and one quart per minute in longer life mode
- Uses a replaceable Katadyn carbon core and cleanable ceramic disc
- Adapter base attaches directly to water bottles or an output hose can be used to fill hydration systems or larger containers
- Glass fiber filter
- A simple turn engages a ceramic pre-filter for long life in dirty water or a pleated glass fiber filter in normal conditions
- Produces up to two quarts per minute in the faster flow mode and one quart per minute in longer life mode
- Replaceable carbon core keeps water tasting fresh; reduces chemicals, odors, and toxins throughout the life of the cartridge
- Dual piston technology provides maximum output with minimum effort
- Adapter base attaches directly to water bottles or an output hose can be used to fill hydration systems or larger containers
Features:
Specs:
Color | Black |
Height | 4 Inches |
Length | 16 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | One Size |
Weight | 1.66 Pounds |
Width | 12 Inches |
23. Sawyer Products SP110 Inline Hydration Pack Adapter for Screw On Filters
- Turn your Sawyer screw-on/off filter into an inline filtration system for your hydration pack with this simple accessory
- Screw the connections onto the each side of squeeze filter, then insert the filter inline into your hydration pack drink tube
- Compatible with the Sawyer Squeeze Filter and the Sawyer Dual Threaded MINI Filter (not included)
- Designed for use with industry standard 1/4-inch inner diameter tubing
Features:
Specs:
Color | Blue/Gray |
Height | 4 Inches |
Length | 4 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Release date | July 2012 |
Size | One Size |
Weight | 0.01984160358 Pounds |
Width | 1.75 Inches |
24. Katadyn BeFree 0.6L Water Filter, Fast Flow, 0.1 Micron EZ Clean Membrane for Endurance Sports, Camping and Backpacking (8019639)
- 0. 1 micron water filter removes harmful organisms like bacteria 99. 9999% and protozoa like giardia & Cryptosporidium 99. 9%, surpassing EPA standards
- Collapsible 0. 6L hydrapak soft bottle flask packs down small to fit in tight spaces (pant or jacket pockets, purses, cycling jerseys, fly vests
- EZ-clean Membrane is simple and easy to clean by simply shaking or swishing the filter to clean debris, no backflushing or extra tools required
- Filters up to 1, 000 liters of contaminated water without using chemicals or other devices and hydrate quickly and easily with the free flow channels fast flow rate
- Stay clean drink nozzle keeps the mouthpiece clean and sanitary (replaceable with standard plastic water bottle Caps)
Features:
Specs:
Color | ONE COLOR |
Height | 9.1 Inches |
Length | 2.8 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | One Size |
Weight | 0.2 Pounds |
Width | 2.8 Inches |
25. Coleman Jug With Water Carrier, 5 Gallons, Blue
This product is made of high quality materialThis product is easy to use and made of high quality materialThis product is manufactured in USA5 gallon water carrier ideal for camping, boating, and moreFast flow spigot delivers instant water access without tippingBuilt in molded handle and handgrip fo...
Specs:
Color | Blue |
Height | 10.51181101 Inches |
Length | 10.51181101 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | One Size |
Weight | 2.1 Pounds |
Width | 10.51181101 Inches |
26. Water Purification Tablets
- Use to purify available water for drinking.
- 1 tablet purifies 1 liter of unsanitary water.
- Great for emergencies and the outdoors.
Features:
Specs:
Height | 0.5 Inches |
Length | 4 Inches |
Width | 0.5 Inches |
27. Katadyn Hiker PRO Water Microfilter
Convenient filter for 1 to 2 persons while hiking or campingRemovable filter protector extends cartridge life in challenging conditionsCompact design and easy operation--fits in any backpack or travel bagAllows direct attachment to drink tube (1/4" ID) of hydrationAdditional hydration connector fitt...
Specs:
Color | Gray |
Height | 2.7 Inches |
Length | 8.7 Inches |
Weight | 0.85 Pounds |
Width | 7.9 Inches |
28. Reliance Products 5 Gallon Poly-Bagged Fold-A-Carrier Collapsible Water Carrier
- The spigot design offers an on/off feature & is leak proof. Comfortable handle attached with metal clips that folds making it compact
- Length: 12.00 width: 4.00 height: 16.00
- Weight: 0.65lbs
- Sport type: Camping & Hiking
- Collapsible five-gallon/20 liter water container with sturdy fold-down handle
- Constructed of BPA-free, food-approved high grade polyethylene
- Remains flexible even in extreme cold
- Easy-pour, leak-proof spigot with on/off feature
- Five-year warranty against manufacturer's defects
Features:
Specs:
Color | Natural |
Height | 11 Inches |
Length | 11 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | 12.0"x4.0"x16.0" |
Weight | 0.55 Pounds |
Width | 11 Inches |
29. General Ecology 322200 First Need XLE Elite Water Filter for Camping (Emergency Water Purification - Removes Viruses, Bacteria and Cysts)
Water Filter for Camping - Portable water purifier with hand pump and included gravity feed bag. No batteries, electrical or chemicals. Connects easily to popular camping and hiking water containers.Emergency Water Purification - Survival water filter removes viruses, bacteria, cysts, giardia, crypt...
Specs:
Height | 8 Inches |
Length | 5 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Weight | 1.6 Pounds |
Width | 5 Inches |
30. Katadyn Hiker Water Filter, Lightweight, Compact Design for Personal or Small Group Camping, Backpacking or Emergency Preparedness
- Easy-to-use design is great for the beginning camper to the serious backpacker
- The 0.2 micron glassfiber filter media is designed for high output with little effort
- Activated carbon in the core of the filter improves the taste and reduces chemicals in your drinking water
- Provides safe drinking water in any challenging conditions
- Lowest maintenance water filter available; no need for constant backflushing
Features:
Specs:
Color | One Color |
Height | 3 Inches |
Length | 9 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Release date | January 2012 |
Size | One Size |
Weight | 1.2 Pounds |
Width | 8 Inches |
31. Alexapure Pro Stainless Steel Water Filtration System - 5,000 Gallon Throughput Capacity
- Removes up to 99.9999% of 200+ water impurities, including lead, bacteria, viruses, cysts, chlorine, fluoride, TCP, E. coli
- Groundbreaking gravity block core filter with hybrid ceramic shell
- Pour unfiltered water in, get sparkling clean drinking water out; Performance of filters may vary due to source water conditions, water turbidity and seasonal water conditions
- Gravity fed filtration runs without electricity making it essential for emergencies
- Raw water capacity: 8.5 liters (2.25 gallons) - Filtered water capacity: 8.5 liters (2.25 gallons)
Features:
Specs:
Height | 9 Inches |
Length | 14 Inches |
Size | 5000 gallon |
Weight | 6.834330122 Pounds |
Width | 9 Inches |
32. Sawyer Complete 2-Liter Water Treatment System
Gravity water filtration system for backcountry camping and emergency preparedness; includes 0.1 micron absolute filter and two 2-liter reservoirs for a 4-liter total capacityRemoves 99.99999% of all bacteria, such as salmonella, cholera, and E.coli; removes 99.9999% of all protozoa, such as giardia...
33. Sawyer Products SP160 One-Gallon Gravity Water Filtration System with Dual-Threaded Mini Filter, Blu/White/Clear
Easily create gravity-based water filtering system with 0.1 micron absolute dual-threaded Sawyer MINI water filter and 1-gallon reservoirHigh-performance 0.1 Micron absolute inline filter fits in the palm of your hand and weighs just 2 ounces; 100% of MINI units individually tested three times to pe...
Specs:
Color | Blu/White/Clear |
Height | 13.75 Inches |
Length | 5.75 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | One Size |
Weight | 0.55 Pounds |
Width | 2.75 Inches |
34. Sawyer Products SP122 3-Way Inline Water Filter
0.1 Micron absolute hollow fiber membrane inline filterRemoves 99.99999% of all bacteria, such as salmonella, cholera, and E.coli; removes 99.9999% of all protozoa, such as giardia and cryptosporidiumHousing material made from food grade ABS plastic is light in weight at 3 ounces dry and easily fiel...
35. Survivor Filter Collapsible Canteens (33oz) 2 Pack (2L Total) - Durable Carabiners and Handles. Squeeze Water Through a Filter or Use as Water Bottles. Light and BPA Free.
- โ ๐ฃ๐๐๐ฅ ๐ช๐๐ง๐ ๐๐ก๐ฌ ๐ช๐๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐๐๐ง๐๐ฅโ Each water container holds 33oz (1 liter) of liquid and attaches easily into any portable water filter with a 28 mm thread
- โ ๐จ๐๐ง๐ฅ๐ ๐ฆ๐ง๐จ๐ฅ๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐ฅ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ฅ๐ฆ & ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐โ These lightweight canteens weighย 2.4oz, have a built-in handle and clip-on carabiner. When not in use, roll it up or flatten it
- โย ๐ญ๐ฌ๐ฌ% ๐ก๐ข๐ก-๐ง๐ข๐ซ๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐โ Built out of durable and flexible material to withstand outdoor environments. Comes with a mouthpiece cover to protect it from dirt and damage
- โ ๐ฆ๐๐๐-๐ฆ๐ง๐๐ก๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ฆ๐โ Stands upright when filled, making filling a breeze. Rigid enough to stand open when empty to facilitate air drying.
- โ๐ญ๐ฌ๐ฌ% ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐๐ฆ๐๐๐๐ง๐๐ข๐ก ๐๐จ๐๐ฅ๐๐ก๐ง๐๐ โ Lifetime Warranty - We are so confident that you will love your canteens that we will stand behind them with a Lifetime Warranty
Features:
Specs:
Color | Clear |
Length | 10 Inches |
Size | 12 x 1.5 x 6.5" |
Weight | 0.16975594174 Pounds |
Width | 0.1 Inches |
36. Stanley Adventure eCycle Flask 7oz Navy
- Made with eCycle, our recycled & recyclable plastic
- Two stage lid with access for thorough cleaning
- Mixed drink ready
- Dishwasher safe Leak proof
- BPA Free
- Lifetime Warranty
Features:
Specs:
Color | Navy |
Height | 7.5 Inches |
Length | 1.4 Inches |
Release date | July 2013 |
Size | 7 oz |
Weight | 0.33 Pounds |
Width | 3.5 Inches |
37. Reliance Products Desert Patrol 6 Gallon Rigid Water Container
- Six-gallon/23-liter rugged, short-term use water container
- Angled handle for two-handed gripping
- Standard three-piece spout system for accurate bulk pouring
- Dimensions: 14.75 by 6.25 by 19 inches (L x W x H); Weight: 1.82 pounds
- BPA free construction; five-year warranty against manufacturer's defects
Features:
Specs:
Color | Green |
Height | 19 Inches |
Length | 14.75 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | 14.8 Inch x 6.3 Inch x 19.0 Inch |
Weight | 1.8 Pounds |
Width | 6.25 Inches |
38. American Made Water Bottle, 5-Gallon, Blue
Material is BPA Free5 gallon CapacityBuilt in heavy duty handleHandle Allows for Easy CarryingRecyclable-Code 1 PETE
Specs:
Color | Blue |
Height | 21 Inches |
Length | 11 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | 5-Gallon |
Weight | 1.6 Pounds |
Width | 11 Inches |
39. 2018 Vecto 3L Water Container, 28mm, Orange - Discontinued
- Discontinued - replaced by a 2019 Vecto
- Easy to fill and clean - wide opening allows easy filling from any water source and simple cleaning
- Lightweight and compact - at only 3 oz and packed size of 7x2x2 inches, it is a must have collapsible container
- Durable yet easy to use - despite the soft material, the Vecto has a breaking point of 220lbs
- Patent pending dual opening design - slider sealed wide opening and 28mm standard soda style screw neck
Features:
Specs:
Color | Orange |
Size | 2 liters |
Weight | 0.175 Pounds |
40. LifeStraw Universal Water Filter Bottle Adapter Kit Fits Select Bottles from Hydroflask, Camelbak, Kleen Kanteen, Nalgene and More
Water filter bottle adapter kit with two different sized caps turns most water bottles into water filters; perfect for outdoors, travel, and fitnessKit includes 2-stage filter, threaded wide mouth and standard caps, standard and sport mouthpieces, leakproof lid with loop, and carry bagReplaceable mi...
Specs:
Color | white |
Height | 7.3 Inches |
Length | 2.5 Inches |
Number of items | 24 |
Weight | 0.54233716452 Pounds |
Width | 2.5 Inches |
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It's totally doable but you're going to have to work your ass off to prepare.
First things first: Find a ticket. Obviously.
Don't freak out about finding a camp. You don't need one to thrive out there. If you find a good one, that's fantastic, but really, don't stress. Your neighbours will be super great no matter where you wind up, and they'll help you out with anything you need. Also, odds are good that if you don't find a camp before you get out there, you stand a good chance of being invited to move in with one in pretty short order.
How are you getting there? You already have transport arranged? Is that how I'm reading that? If so, how much room is there in the vehicle for your gear?
Do you have any camping gear? A tent (teeny is fine - you won't be spending much time in it) is a must unless (and this can and is totally done out there) you want to risk hopping from tent to tent with random folks you meet out there. On that note, take condoms. Don't trust the other person to be safe/prepared/sober enough to think it through/etc.
The below assumptions are based on you going solo:
The mandatory packing list (off the top of my head - I'm sure I'm going to miss some bits) to survive:
Shelter
Water (minimum 1 gallon/day for drinking. These things are great: http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Poly-Bagged-Carrier-Collapsible/dp/B001QBZI90 and run $8-$10 at your local army surplus store) Also, canteens/bottles to carry water around with you. It super sucks a: to run out of water far from home, and b: to haul around a 5-gallon bladder of water. Comical to everyone around you, sucky for you.
Food. Particularly because you're doing this last-minute, I recommend canned food (don't forget a can opened :D ) - I'm a huge fan of spaghetti-o's and fruit cup type things - single-serving/meal-sized. Tins of chicken and some crackers are a good plan if you're desperate for protein, but so are big bags of jerky. Anything non-perishable. Also quick and slow energy snacky things like trail mix/nuts/etc. Don't bring chocolate or anything else that will melt. Oranges will happily survive out there, however. Note that your appetite will probably be greatly diminished. Don't try to do anything super fancy.
Loose-fitting light-colored clothing. A hat/shade thing. Goggles (dust storms). A dust mask/bandanna/related, again for the dust storms.
Lights - a flashlight (ideally super light that can be thrown around your neck on a string) and some form of illumination for your person so art cars will see you and not run your ass over.
A cup.
Everything else is convenience/luxury.
Very nice to have:
A <$100 playa bike with a couple of blinky lights for visibility.
A shade structure. Don't panic on this one. Everyone around you will have shade, and everyone's always willing to share.
Take a couple of bottles of booze to share with the neighbours. That's always appreciated and a great icebreaker. Note: ice is available for sale out there; don't try to bring your own :D
I'll think of more later, but in the meantime, read these:
http://burningman.com/first_timers/
http://burningman.com/preparation/event_survival/
Oh yeah, and if you're soloing, finding a place to camp is daunting. Here's how it works: After queueing to gate, handing over the ticket, getting the car searched, etc, you will be molested by your very own greeter. Greeters are awesome. If you have a cold beer in the car with you, give it to your greeter. Give your greeter a big hug :D
After greeting, you'll drive (SLOW DOWN!) toward the outer rim of the city (back, center) and you'll run into a fork in the road. Choose a path. I plan to choose left. Drive along a couple of long blocks until you decide it's the right time to turn into the city proper. Do so. (SLOW DOWN!) Keep going. Turn left or right wherever feels right. Try to do it at an intersection, however. Amble about a bit more. Turn again. Go see what up that street over there. Eventually, you'll find a spot that seems right to you. Pull in, park, get out of the car, look around, panic a little, and start setting up your camp right on the edge of the street Follow the lead of everyone around you. Secret: a lone female will probably get extra offers of help from everyone nearby. Use it. Make friends. Dish out some of the aforementioned booze you brought along.
Once you're settled enough to feel like you have a place to sleep later on: Depending on the time of day, strap on some lights, and strike off down your street toward the port-a-potties. You MUST learn where they are. pre-dawn bathroom trips super suck when you don't know where the bathrooms are. Then go back to your camp because it'll be farther away than you thought. Get a sense of what's around you. MAKE A BIG NOTE OF YOUR STREET AND TIME. Then go back to the porta potty intersection (that's your first landmark) and head toward the Man. You'll be able to see him.
Once you get to esplanade/open playa, walk out 100 yards or so, turn around, and figure out where you just came from. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THIS IS HOW YOU GET HOME LATER. From there, fuck off and have a great time.
And don't lock your keys in the car. Srsly.
-This was generous gift from my SO's mom. It may not be the best tent out there, but at free it can't be beat.
-Got this for its small size and light weight. Future winter camping trips are a possibility, in which case I plan on snagging a wool blanket of sleeping bag liner.
-Simple basic sleeping pad, I've been using these since scouts and have wanted for nothing more, especially because of its light weight.
-In the event of winter camping, is this enough to insulate from the ground? If not, what could be added to my sleep system to keep me insulated from the ground?
-Lightweight and simple, these were cheap and seemed straight forward.
-They stack with the majority of either piece's empty space facing each other, allowing for decently dry storage for matches etc. inside.
-Comes with a tight fitting mesh ditty bag
-Another straight forward and cheap piece,
-This is really an optional piece, I plan on bringing it along on trips with big groups or when cooking meat is in the cards.
-These are the camping gold standard in my book, been using them since scouts.
-Came in a decently affordable combo pack, plan on using them for food/toiletries storage and bear bags.
-Love this little knife, cheap but durable and was a shaver straight out of the box.
-Came with a super thick plastic sheath
9)Hatchet: Estwing Hatchet - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
-Heard this was a classic, people say they've still got the one's their grandfather's used. It's heavy, but I'm happy with the tradeoff.
-Got it sharpened well enough to cleanly slice through paper at the moment
-Great sharpener, pretty much the go to field sharpener from what I've gathered.
-Only took a couple minutes to learn how to use, the only hard part is consistently following the bevel through each stroke, but it gets easier.
-Very great, medium size towels with their own tote
-Seems great, picked it up at REI physical store then read reviews and got spooked, we'll see though, a minority of the reviewers swear by it.
-Just in case it sucks, any suggestions for a collapsible water container of equal size/price?
-These came free with my water filter, and they have many good reviews. If they do well, I may buy some extras.
-More showing of my primitivist ass, and I thought I could take some weight off of my SO by carrying enough water for the two of us.
-Got these a long time ago when I knew less, they are pretty bulky and my first item I want to replace
-SO's mom gifted this this Christmas, so amazing and thoughtful, one of the best gifts I've ever gotten and I love the color
-Pack of flashlights (might not bring all four) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V639BNC?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01
Items not shown:
-Always a tin or bag of Drum Tobacco and papers
-Kindle, old generation one
-Collapsible trowel
-Paracord
-Burlap shoulder bag for gathering kindling etc
Items still wanted (suggestions greatly appreciated):
-Knife for SO
-Work gloves
-Plastic flasks for booze
-Belt pouch
-Higher quality tarp
-Knife Sharpener
-Sleeping bag liner or wool blanket
-Any food suggestions!
-Rain cover for pack
-Smell proof food bags
I don't have much experience outside of scouts, so I'm very open to critique of my setup. I will warn that I am very much into primitivism, and camping for me is a gateway to a backcountry, esthetic lifestyle I one day I hope to live, so some of my gear choices may not always be the most efficient. Any advice from a primitivist or purist standpoint is doubly appreciated.
To get an accurate answer, you need to include a lot more information.
I'm going to assume car camping, with a family of four.
REI's base/family camping checklist is a good place to start.
https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/family-camping-checklist.html
If you've got deep pockets, go ahead and get whatever they recommend. REI has some great gear; most of it is sold at retail price so it's best to wait for one of their coupons, or shop elsewhere. REI has a great 1 year return policy which is why many of us shop there.
Here are some recommendations for the basics. I'm linking to Amazon so you can see the products; you can buy them there or shop around.
Tent - Coleman Montana 8. It's a well regarded tent for the price. Big enough for a family, can fit a couple of queen size air mattresses in there (kids can share a full size mattress or bring smaller inflatables). The Montana 6 is a bit smaller and more manageable for a family of 4, makes it easier if you've got limited space in the back of the SUV.
Sleeping bags - depends on where you are going and when. You can buy Coleman synthetic bags pretty cheap at most outdoor stores as well as Target and Walmart. Synthetic bags are generally heavy and bulky, but will get the job done. The rating on the bag is generally the extreme rating... as in you probably won't die at that temp but it might be a cold miserable night. Mummy bags save some weight and some bulk and are warmer, but some don't like the constrictive nature of the bags.
Mattress pad - if you're car camping, don't bother with backpacking pads. Bring a full size Coleman air mattress, or even a queen. Remember you'll need some way to inflate the pad; a battery operated pump will work but is slow. You can get a pump that plugs in, but you 1. need an inverter in the car, 2. need an extension from the car into the tent since the inflated mattress probably won't fit through the door of the tent.
Stove - Camp Chef Everest dual burner propane stove. You can get a cheaper Coleman dual burner stove if you need to save money.
Cookset - I actually use full size pots and pans for car camping. Don't bother with backpacking cooksets. You can just bring what you have at home, or you can find "scratch and ding" clearance pots and pans at TJMaxx/Marshalls/Home goods, nice and cheap! You can often find great stainless steel pots and pans at Goodwill (avoid used non-stick). Along with the pots and pans, bring your usual utensils. You can bring paper plates, plastic cups and forks/knives, or buy "camping" stuff.
Water - Is there potable water? Are you bringing your water or do you need to filter? I generally bring a couple of Coleman 5 gallon water jug. They collapse until I need them... but you really can't fill them all the way up since they're really difficult to carry. Some grocery stores rent 5 gallon water bottles full w/deposit, and also sell pumps so you can just pump out the water. Or you can just buy water in gallon jugs.
Washing - if there's no washing facilities, you want to bring a wash basin to clean up.
Cooler - Coleman Xtreme 70quart. Or the Igloo Max. I prefer something smaller since I've got a smaller sedan and will run into town more frequently.
Headlamps - it's good for everyone to have their own headlamps. The Black Diamond Spot is a good headlamp from a great company. You can a cheap Energizer Headlamp for under $15, they're not great but work fine for the price.
Camp lantern - Coleman propane lanterns are the ol' standard, work great and cast great light. Uses the same 1lb propane tanks as the stove. But many are going with LED lanterns... these Cheap camp lanterns on Amazon seem like a pretty good deal, I've got some like them and they work fine. Very bright and very white, but cheap and effective.
Packing/hauling - Rubbermaid tote. These tubs make a great way to haul and store gear.
Tarp - bring a couple. It's good to have one tarp to hang over the cooking / eating area. You'll need some rope or cord to tie these up.
Folding chairs and tables - bring 'em if you've got 'em. It's much easier to cook standing up at a table.
Firewood - call ahead or check online, some campsites have firewood restrictions; some places you can't forage for wood and you need to buy it locally.
Garbage bags - bring a couple of big ones, a bunch of smaller bags if you need to pack up smelly stuff.
Well, I hope that enough for a start. Good luck!
Gear-wise- try your best to make use of stuff you already have. You don't need to get expensive name brand outdoor gear if you already have stuff that will work.
For a dayhike, I would recommend using a pack you already have like a school pack.
Food and water are important. Especially water. Depending on the route, you could just make sure to carry enough water the whole way, but that can get heavy. I would recommend buying cheap bottled water like Smartwater rather than a heavy nalgene bottle. If you'll be crossing streams along the way, I would recommend you get a Katadyn BeFree. It's a waterbottle that filters water you get from streams and makes it safe to drink. That way you only have to carry enough water to get to the next stream.
I would also recommend you bring a flashlight. If you, worst case scenario, end up being out there past dark, you want a way to continue hiking back to the car in the dark. This is my favorite but any flashlight will do.
Make sure to put sunscreen on at the trailhead and bring sun protection like a long sleeve shirt, maybe a hat. And bring enough layers to stay warm. A cotton t-shirt is okay but the rest of your clothes should be material made to dry quickly and keep you warm when wet like wool, nylon, fleece, etc.. Most of my hiking clothes are thrift-store or TJ Maxx finds. For a rain jacket, I just use $20 Frog Toggs from Walmart. It's light and does a great job. I like to hike in sneakers, so don't feel like you need hiking boots. I use [ankle gaiters](https://dirtygirlgaiters.com) to keep pebbles out of my shoes but that's not super important for starting out.
I would also recommend visiting /r/ultralight for gear inspiration. What I like about that sub is that they're good at focusing on the essentials of what you'll need without the distraction of frivolous camping gear like folding chairs, coffee makers, and camp showers. Once you get your essential gear then you can decide if you want to get the non-essential stuff too. A lot of their suggestions are also very cheap (contrary to popular belief). They have a link in the sidebar to a budget gear list for people just getting started.
You probably won't have to worry much about wildlife but it's always a good idea to research the area you're going to. I usually stop by the ranger station on my way to a hike and ask them if I should be aware of any bear problems or anything.
In terms of etiquette, as long as you leave things the way you found them and don't litter, stomp on plants, or cut down trees, you should be be fine. I hope that helps a little and that you have a fun time out there!
I just bought that stove. It's excellent. Mine
I really considered that pack. Ended up going to REI buying one there, since I wanted to make 100% I'd be comfortable in it. Ended up with the REI Mars 85 for $119 on clearance. I love it.
If you have the time to order and return it, I'd try the one you linked.
I considered a spork, but I find that I prefer having two separate utensils to manipulate food. I got the $3 3 piece set at REI and like it.
That Stanley cookpot was a close contender for me. I ended up with the coleman aluminum set that the Boy Scouts use. It's $6 and very light.
I don't know that you'll need the drysacks, but they are decent. WalMart sells that brand. I ended up getting their three stuff sacks for $5.
Wal Mart also has nifty things like clips, zipper pulls, and other random useful stuff in their camping section.
I've never had Mountain House, but at those prices I'll pass. Here's the food list I'm working on - goal is cheap and easy to purchase (no DIY dehydration, etc.)
I don't think you'll need the firesteel. Waterproof matches, two lighters ought to be enough. I just made my mind up on this last night - pulled the steel from my pack.
I can not stress good socks enough. These are my single favorite thing out of my gear.
This mug is good, insulated, cheap, has a lid, and light.
This underwear, dear god. Another must.
I didn't do the steripen, ended up with the Katadyn Hiker Pro instead. The cool thing is that it comes with quick disconnects to add to your hydration bladder so you can pump water straight from the river into your bladder via the sip tube - no need to even open the pack! For me, with an 85 liter pack and a 3 liter platypus, this was really nice.
On this recommendation, I bought this tent at Walmart for $22. I'm 6' and fit it snugly diagonally. Very, very light (maybe 2 pounds, packed), and seems like it will do the trick. Haven't spent the night in it. The material is barely water resistant and the rainfly is tiny, so I carry a lightweight tarp just in case and use it as the footprint when I don't need rain protection. It's lighter and roomier than anything I could find under $120.
This bag is a little on the heavy side at 4.5 pounds, but I couldn't find a better-reviewed bag under $80. (at ~$90, the North Face Cat's Meow is the way to go).
I'd go Saw instead of Axe, less exersion/calorie use, better cuts.
Dump the gill net, in the case of season 3, your inland, not on the ocean, if you don't get lucky enough to get a stream on your site you wasted one of your 10. If you are lucky and get a stream, building fish traps is easy.
Maybe Bow, but only if your skilled in it's use
Definately cordage should be added, there are too many things that you can do with it.
Here is the list of what I would bring...
1, 100 Yard 30lb test (Additional Cordage, Snare wire)
2, 100 yard 20lb test (Additional Cordage, or use as heavy line)
3, 100 yard 15 lb test (for actual fishing)
for the 25 hooks, get the "red" colored hooks [Here is why] as they may be a built in attractant, a bonus within the rules is a bonus...
My Start
Day 1, job 1: temp shelter and fire building Prep for first night... NOTE! If in an area of Large Predators (Boar, Big Cat, Bears, etc) First order of Business Make a Boar Spear! 8 feet long, and mount a cross bar about a foot down (Boar Spear, else they will climb the spear torwards you)
Day 2, water production and evaluate the site, dig into a little of the rations for food for the day. Plan out the permant camp (if located), fishing/food prep/trapping areas, Freshwater sources. Try to make the permant cam centrally located between food and water, but away from food prep area and possible larger predator areas.
Day 3, Water Production, Hunting gathering morning, Camp building after noon. Food prep and bed.. Basically I'll follow the rule of 3s mostly (3 minutes air, 3 hours exposure, 3 days water, 3 weeks food) everything has it's priority, Shelter fire 1st, water 2nd, food last, beyond that is comfort to survive and thrive in the situation.
First Aid Kit - you might not need it ever, but you should always have it. All kits are different but there are fundamental items that should be carried, you can check out the NOLS Kits
and either buy one or for less, make your own that is custom to your needs and desires.
Tools - First, carry a knife that can cut decent size branches, again, you might not need it but its good to have. Second, I recommend getting a water filter such as a Sawyer mini or Katadyn Be Free as they are both lightweight and will probably decrease your pack weight if you hike near water. Third, Fire can be helpful in many situations but must be used carefully and with respect. If you live somewhere that allows it, a wood burning camp stove will be worth some warmth and also allow you to cook if you bring along a mess set. I personally use an MSR Pocket Rocket. As a day hiker, you might not use a stove often but it's not bad to have if you do longer hikes or are far from civilization so if that's the case, look into tablet stoves. generally, you should have a lighter or two just in case. You may also consider carrying a survival blanket just in case (as goes for most these objects).
The Front Pouch - So the idea behind having this pouch is to have things that you want quick access too on the trail, the most important of which is your map. Navigation is important when hiking so if you're not familiar with an area buy a map and bring a compass. I personally don't use a compass but I've learned how to navigate without one, however you should always have a map. You may also need to have a permit for some hiking areas and it's nice to have within reach, usually with your map. you may also like to have TP and a camp trowel in there so that it is not hard to find at the wrong moment. along with that, a trash bag of any kind should be carried. Finally, carry snacks in there so that you don't have to dig around to find them.
Summary - This is all advice from a Backpacker so there will be many things you don't need on every hike but could save your life if you get caught in a bad situation, many of the objects I recommend are the same. If I'm close to home or not going out too far on a day hike, I usually carry a Knife, Be Free Filter, Lighter/Stove (depending on mileage) an extra coat, and extra food, but each hike and hiker are different. You will eventually find a system that works well for you, but it's always good to carry things that make life on the trail easier and can get you through a night in the wild. With thought on my comment, you should also check out the Ten Essentials as they will almost always be worth their weight.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask!
You just need to have what you might need, BOBs are generally for evacuations whereas what you are describing is just normal day to day things. I'll try to make a list anyway but you'll have to add things you want to have.
Since you don't plan on carrying this the bag could just be a large backpack, or even a duffle bag. You don't need the tacticool hi-speed lo-drag coolest BOB out there.
I would divide things into categories and keep them in their own dividers. For instance, you could get 2 of something like this and some sort of larger bag for all your clothing. It will make it much easier than just having a bag full of stuff. You could probably fit most clothing in one, and just have the jacket and jeans outside of it. You could also vacuum seal your clothing into compact flat bags to make them easier to handle.
Clothing
3 - comfortable t-shirts. You could even just buy a pack of 3 hanes shirts for the purpose.
1 - Jacket - just in case it's winter time
3 - underwear, whatever kind you wear
1 - athletic shorts
1 - pair of jeans
3 - pairs of socks
1 - towel? If they will provide showers but not towels
Toiletries
(all this should be travel sized, they sell everything I will name at walmart in travel sizes for $1)
1 - toothpaste
1 - toothbrush
1 - Shampoo/conditioner
1 - body wash (bar soap sucks to store after 1 use)
1 - deoderant (will melt and leak in a hot car, even the white powder kind. Keep this in mind
1 - pack of baby wipes. These are good for a 'hobo shower' which is likely what will be available to you. I would still bring the other stuff though just in case, and you can always wash your hair with a bucket of water to rinse.
Medications
These will spoil in a hot car, but you should keep a few days supply of any medications you might need on you somehow, or if there is a way to store them at the office do that (maybe they can be locked in a cabinet or something?) I'd keep them in an old prescription bottle with your info on it, you can scratch out the medicine name if you want.)
EXTRA GLASSES if you wear contacts or glasses.
Electronics
A completely spare phone charger that you will never remove from the bag unless you literally have no other choice. This cannot be left at home because you took it out and forgot to put it back in.
Other chargers for whatever you might need. If you might have your iPad for instance, bring a charger for that if it's different than phone.
You can consider a charging battery pack like this (I am not recommending that model though, it's first on Amazon)
Food
Don't know what kind of facilities they would have, but you can bring dehydrated food if there will be a way to boil water. If not you're going to have to stick with ready to eat foods like jerky, pop-tarts, tuna packets, granola bars, etc. Whatever you like, you won't want to be eating shitty food you hate in this situation.
Water
Typical recommendations are 1 gallon/person/day so that's 3 gallons. That's a lot of water to store, but if you need to then I'd recommend a case or two of water in the car. You want to switch these out every once in a while as plastic leeches into the water after a while. Just switch it every few months or so. You can also get a nalgene bottle and keep that full, but that's not even a days worth of drinking water.
If you somehow think you'll have non-potable water available and need a filter then I'd recommend this for cheap, this for a more pricey option that can also be more easily shared with others.
If you think you'll need to boil water/cook food you should be fine with this and a can of butane fuel for it. This you don't want to leave in a florida car in the summer either though.
I got the gallon Sawyer bag with the Sawyer mini and Iโm surprised how much I like it. The gallon bag is bulkier to pack, but the handle makes it a lot easier to fill. The gravity fill system is pretty easy to use, if a little slow. I use Smart Water bottles for clean water while backpacking.
Itโs an especially great system if youโre collecting water for multiple people, or setting up base camp for a couple days. The big bag means fewer trips to the creek!
I've always loved my First Need purifier. Its not the cheapest, lightest or coolest-looking unit, but I am always impressed by how easy it is to use, how fast it pumps water, and how good the water tastes. My friends have other filters, but after seeing mine in action, they always end up borrowing it. You just screw it onto your nalgene and youre good to go. It pumps both ways too, so while you are pumping there is constantly water flowing. Also worth mentioning: it filters out viruses, which a lot of other filters won't do (which is why people are suggesting tabs).
Link
Pro tip: use a rubber band to hold a coffee filter around the filter pod. It makes pumping a little harder, but keeps the big stuff out and saves you from trying to clean out the little filter pod.
I've posted this like 4 times and worry I might start looking like a shill soon LOL, but I live in vegas and it will be 117 this week and my boy charles uses the ruffwear swamp cooler
Here is what he looks like wearing it. The one pictured is a medium, but chuck weighs 56 lbs, so he's definitely on the small side of pyr. I'm 100% confident in its abilities. The only thing is that it says it will stay cool for 4 hours. That's not true in vegas at all. With 3% humidity that thing stays wet for like 30 minutes. I keep a 6 gallon jug in my truck to allow me to drench it when necessary.
Truly the best course of action is to stay inside though. Between soaking and constantly worrying about his paws, we're basically only outside long enough to poop.
Not shilling, not selling anything neutral.
I bought the Alexapure.
I went with this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G0Q61YQ
Based on cost of filter, filter quality, etc.
The comparable competitor would be the "berkey" filters which are 100% compatible. I can't remember the exact reason, but I liked the Alexapure filter or something better. I can put 4 filters in, to have it filter fast, or just 1 filter, and have to wait up to 1 hour for the water to filter (no big deal).
If you are a 2 person family (man + woman, whatevsare you are), you'll want 2 filters, and it goes in 20 mins on a full tank. Full tank lasts 3 days.
I went with Alexpaure + 2 filters, but that's just me. I think the Berkey are just as good, probably.
Good luck! I hate amazon, (bezos), just being honest.
I promise you it's worth the investment. Pass it on.
Welcome to camping! You could try and x-post this to r/campingandhiking if you haven't yet, to get more feedback.
I think the biggest paperweights you've got on that list are in the tools section: You don't need a leatherman, it's expensive, and there's not much use for pliers or philips screwdrivers in the outdoors. A knife is very helpful, but you only need one, not 3 (4 if you count the knife in the fire kit).
You don't need that whole fire kit; I like how much you're planning for emergencies, but you could just buy some fireproof matches and make the rest of the kit yourself. (the cord saws are hard to work with and tend to break).
You also have 4 different lights listed, headlamp is more useful than a flashlight you have to hold, lantern could be useful, but an inflatable one would shave some weight. Do you need the keychain light?
Cans are heavy to hike with, if you can buy similar food in pouch form, you can use your knife to open your food and don't need the can opener.
Is the shovel for poop holes? A lot of people use this thing, which is a lot lighter than the folding shovel.
I don't know if Bear spray is necessary, but you should have a bear bag system with you, if only for the little bears (mice and other critters).
For water filtration, I have to recommend the katadyne BeFree because it is super fast. I'd try and buy a second bag for it, since they sometimes delaminate. Either way, I'd recommend trying out your system at home, so you know if you like it before you're depending on it.
Ok for a good shoe look into trail running shoes. I recommend Solomon. You could always go old school and just boil your water or you could get a filter. http://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Vario-Multi-Water-Microfilter/dp/B000KUVVY4/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1332845095&amp;sr=1-1 I have one like this and it works dandy. For sleeping arangements go with a bivy. There are many different styles. Find one that works for the kind of camping you are doing. Also a simple tarp setup will work too. Use tyvec sheets you get at the hardware store. Light and cheep. Low cover is the key there. Stove. http://www.rei.com/product/785338/soto-od-1r-micro-regulator-stove I just picked up one of these bad boys up. I like it. small and pretty durable. Your pup will probably sleep with you. if you go the tent route it's a non issue. He will sleep in the tent with you. it's a win win. he feels the love and you get a little free body heat.
Alot of people recommend the sawyer, but having used both the MSR Autoflow filter and the Sawyer's, the filters specifically made for Gravity Filters have a much better flow rate.
I recommend just buying an MSR Autoflow filter, buying some hosing and attaching it to an MSR Dromolite bag of your size preference. You can also cut the hose before the the filter and insert one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008JX0QP4/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
You can then pack that attachment with aqaurium filter fiber for a really effective sediment filter that will extend the life and flow of the filter.
If you go about it this way, it will be super light weight and is customized to your needs. You will just need an MSR cap that has a hose attachment.
In Sweden if you save up hit the Hairy Pig restaurant. Best meal Iโve had in maybe 10 years! Worth paying for. Also I just got back from
Many of the location you mentioned. We took power bars but saved a ton on water by bringing nagal bottles and lifestraw water filters! We got the adapter kits with straw for $15 at Walmart and bottles for $6 off amazon (32oz bottle). We filled up from bathroom sinks, outdoor water fountains etc! Saved us a ton on bottled water and was healthier then the bottled stuff. Definitely do that it will save you a ton on europe
LifeStraw Universal Water Filter Bottle Adapter Kit Fits Select Bottles from Hydroflask, Camelbak, Kleen Kanteen, Nalgene and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074WJDZYK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7SfzDbQ406G95
Start learning survival skills ASAP. Its not just "lost in the woods and need to get out", these skills can make you self sufficient. Start looking up what tools you will need in order to live on your own. Find out your climate/area, and what is required to live there (does it snow a lot, are you in a desert, etc). Next find a damn good water source far away from the city. Chances are theres many people who have already scouted the location and picked a spot near where you might think it would be ideal, so keep that in mind. Really just do research first, you don't want to waste money on things you don't need or wont last or on things that will break easy. (Katadyne water filters which cost hundreds, as apposed to a simple tiny bottle of iodine crystals, which will do much better and save a hell of a lot of weight and money. Simple things like that will make a world of difference, so really research is key. Download one of these, and you have a shit ton of info that can easily save your life. Those videos are amazing, and has given me a lot of knowledge. There are other resources like this which go a lot more in depth of certain skills. I would use both (as I have for the past few years). Like BCSKS said, start gathering non perishable or dehydrated foods. Bug Out Bags are ideal for this type of thing, and the info in those videos and that youtube channel will help you with deciding what you need, and what brands to get. Buy seeds and learn how to grow in your climate, and what will grow in your climate. Weight is the biggest issue, so buy the most compact, light, and durable things possible. Here are some simple rules and simple tools that you should memorize and buy first.
Rule of Threes:
You can survive 3 minutes without air, three hours without shelter, three days without water, and 3 weeks without food. FOLLOW THESE. Most people think about food or water first, and then die of hypothermia or hyperthermia.
Ten "C's" of Survivability:
If you have those 10 tools, and of course the knowledge of survival (which is on those videos and that youtube channel), than you will most likely survive. Remember, the more you know, the less you need. But, its always best to be prepared and have more than the bare minimum. Sorry for the wall of text, but I had to be specific. Hope that starts you off well.
I've never been to NYC but in Phoenix the tap water is usually hard, which gives it a weird chemical taste that makes it impossible to make good coffee.
I will admit, however, that buying a water filter is a better solution than buying bottled.
Another solution is to fill up a few big water jugs like these at your local water store every week (water stores are common in Phoenix, at least, but I don't know whether that's true for other cities).
The point I'm making is that if Phoenix, the 6th largest city in the U.S. by population, can't get perfect tap water, then perfect tap water is likely not available to most Americans, making the water quality just in NYC a moot point.
How bout that Brain Force product that was advertised in the video? do you use that?
They're Choline pills.
Brain force you get 156mg of Choline (2pills) for $30.
Choline Supliment you can get 600mg Choline (2pills) for $19
Its literally cut and re-branded Choline, the products claims are literally the same effects as Choline supplements. You're paying 6x markup for Choline.
The profit margin for the product is between 2-5x. that's why you see 50% off as the deal.
The man's smart and has been running the same business model for over a decade. Making products, and promoting content to sell those products to the viewership. its the old "We have a terrible problem and I have the solution conveniently right here for you for only $19.99" strategy, add in some emotional trigger lines like "protect yourself and your family"
That water filter looks like its a well functioning product when it works, a reverse osmosis machine will still save you in the long run. (for the cost of 2 filter changes for an Alexa pure filtration setup, you can buy a reverse osmosis system and have it run for half a decade.)
NSF Certified Resverse Osmosos Machine $136, filters last a year. $25 filter set. standardized filter sizes through the industry. no brand locked filters.
Reverse osmosis membranes have a pore size of 0.0001 micron. The most cost effective system type if you have water pressure. filters over an order of magnitude better than sand filter systems.
Alexapure Water filtration system $156
Passes all filtering standards for public consumption also has some problems , $90 filters
Big Berkey Stainless Steel Water Filtration System not so great product reviews,
Passes all filtering standards for public consumption with higher reductions than the Alexapure product. $258 , $50 filters
cheaper filters. setup becomes cheaper long-term after 3 filter changes. product also has some problems, but seemingly less
Be smart pedes, you make america great again by using your brain, so buy my product Brain Force
The sawyer squeeze is just a better filter than the life straws. It has better flow and is more functional because of the threading on it and closeable cap. The best way to go is you get a durable bag type water bottle like this
Then you attach the Sawyer squeeze and you can squeeze out 3 liters super fast to fill up other containers like your hydration carrier or water bottles.
For water, I would suggest going for filtering. There are some cheap filters you can get your hands on that. One of my favorites is Sawyer SP160 which I use for backpacking. Filter lasts for 100,000 gallons and replacement filters are only $20ish. Takes up much less space than storing water.
For food, are we talking #10 cans? You could look into building a rotating can rack for the appropriate can size. Googling found a pinterest board with several links to different styles you could make.
Honestly I have a preference to be even cheaper and seemingly better storage space usage if you are going with bulk food items. Getting bulk rice or bean bags and then putting them into food safe buckets if you can source them cheap (if you know people who work at food plants, for example a Nestle factory that I get mine from).
Hint you can get bulk food items from an LDS Storehouse (Latter Day Saints prepping is part of their religion) for a really good price. Bonus is that they let anyone buy even if you aren't a LDS.
Nalgene 38oz Guyot designs, with a nice flat bottom. Amazon Canada, $76 (stupid!),
Amazon US, $30
Kleen Kanteen 40oz, Amazon Canada, $70 (just slightly less stupid!),
Amazon US, $23
There's the best of the best options. Try not to live in Canada for the best deal.
My girlfriend and I invested in the First Need XLE before we left. I was skeptical about carrying it but she insisted to help save the planet. It was the best choice we could have made. Boiling is not practical if you're always on the move and versus buying bottled water this has more than broken even in just a few months of travel.
When looking into water filters first be sure you have one rated as a "purifier" any labeled "filter" will normally take out larger protozoa like giardia but still let viruses and other baddies through.
Once you have the right class of protection look at the throughput. Yeah this baby is bulky, but at 2L/min it only takes us a few minutes to fill up for a day or two. Water is something you need constantly, you don't want to make it a chore.
Source: Three months into a trip through central/south america. Use this almost every day.
they are good and compact and pretty cheap. If you ever run out of water you'll wish you had one as most water sources are contaminated anymore.
I prefer my hand pump. I've had mine 10 years and it works great. I really doesn't weigh much and you can change out the filter.
https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Hiker-Microfilter-Water-Filter/dp/B0047QV0AM/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3OJ6CP0N5E4XC&keywords=water+filter+hand+pump&qid=1556483509&s=gateway&sprefix=water+filter+hand%2Caps%2C274&sr=8-9
I used to have a GSI collapsible flask-bladder, but it developed a leak around the neck. Since then, I've picked up a Stanley Adventure e-Cycle Flask. It's made of recycled plastic, doesn't impart any taste as far as I've noticed, and weighs about 130g for 7 oz of capacity. No leak problems, and the entire top unclips and swivels off, so it's really easy to be absolutely sure it's clean. 7oz is plenty for me for almost any trip I'd take, as I prefer not to drink much while backpacking.
I don't know if it's the lightest option out there, but I'm happy with it. The lighter option, for me, is to not bring whiskey at all. This is remarkably convenient if I'm hiking in a group, as the other hikers will often bring too much drink of their own, and be grateful that I am able to use some up to lighten their load, and it doesn't go to waste. It's a win-win for me :)
Good choice on the REI flash pack. Mine has lasted a few backpacking trips, and it was great just rolling it up into nothing. Don't be afraid to wear it on your chest when you're carrying extra stuff. You'll look weird, but it's much better to carry/stow your camera quickly that way. Also quick access to snacks. Also, less unnerving than having your expensive lenses on your back, out of sight as you wade through crowds.
I don't see a waterbottle in your pack, but I might have missed it. Grab a Nalgene, and and these if you're in any areas where water will be a bit questionable.
You'll probably find that you won't use many of your toiletries, minus soap and sunscreen. Good luck and have fun!
Day One I'll have about 35 lbs (15.45 kg) of weight. This is my first time so there are probably several items in there I'll never take with me again, but I'd like to try 'em out once; I also have a shit sleeping bag that desperately needs upgraded. If you want specs, just ask and I'll happily share my spreadsheet!
Edit: The List
The Gear
The Food
I think there are a couple of questions you should ask yourself first.
If you are using the Sawyer Squeeze, you could use something like 3L CNOC bags (the thread on top matches the Squeeze, unlike other bags), and the 3L CNOC bag is 3.7oz each ($23 https://www.amazon.com/Cnoc-Outdoors-Vecto-Container-Orange/dp/B07F1BBWHC). Good lightweight construction. If you plan to use Aquatabs, Aquamira, or bleach, you could use something even more lightweight like the Platypus 2L bags at 1.3oz each ($9 https://www.amazon.com/Platypus-2-Liter-Ultralight-Collapsible-Bottle/dp/B000J2KEGY/). Those do not match the Squeeze threads, but if you're not using Squeeze anyway it wouldn't matter. Both the CNOC and Platypus bags roll down to nothing when empty, and are easy to travel with. You could carry 2 of the CNOC or Platypus bags + 2 1L Smartwater bottles (again, the threading on these matches Sawyer Squeeze) for a total of 6-8oz, without using that much space, and without costing that much money. Just remember that water itself is pretty heavy, which is why most people try to camel up and drink a lot at water stops, and then not have to carry as much all day.
You can get a filter that has chemical filtration capability for as low as $50.
http://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8018270-Hiker-Microfilter/dp/B0047QV0AM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1462453899&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Hiker+Microfilter
.2Micron and less gallons than the life straw posted.
You should absolutely plan for your particular area. 38% of ground water wells in California have high levels of arsenic. Source. The increased levels of arsenic will not kill you out right but will cause a increased chance of things like cancer.
If money is a concern I suggest building your own filter. It's actually pretty easy and cheap. Cheaper than that mylar blanket actually. Here is a good article.
OP, you don't seem to be getting the best advice in this thread so I'll just remind you that if you truly want to be able to drink ANY water you find then you will need something that removes, for example, agricultural fertilizers and other chemicals as well as viruses. In this case, nothing that you ADD to the water will make it safe to drink. Not UV light, not chemicals, not heat. You must have a purifier that REMOVES all of the organic and inorganic matter from the water.
You also mentioned "heavy metals" - my understanding is that purifiers are not intended (or able) to filter out dissolved salts and minerals, including heavy metals. Activated charcoal is able to remove a bit but water that is truly contaminated long-term with fully dissolved metals is pretty much undrinkable. Are you planning on camping near areas where there is a lot of mining activity? If not then I wouldn't worry about the heavy metals specifically.
https://www.amazon.com/General-Ecology-First-Elite-Purifier/dp/B00AI91958
Sawyer Squeeze (not mini) and Katadyn BeFree are great water filters. AquaMira makes great drops.
Check out our wiki on Water for more info.
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Yes, polyester is a fine choice for t-shirts. It's a synthetic material that dries quickly and wicks sweat.
Merino wool would be another fabric that works well for hiking/camping.
I have the Sawyer Gravity Water Filter - 4 liter anti-viral as well as anti-microbial one. Takes longer because it's both viral and bacterial but it is the SHIT. There are reviews out there of people out there that live in Africa and use it and they say it's completely fine. They have the JUST bacterial one that works in like 2 minutes.
[these things] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00168PI4S) came in pretty hand these past few weeks with all the NE storms and power outages. Yeah the other gear was helpful, but these really stood out.
Oh, and the wife who reminded me in time to fill them. So yeah I guess she's actually been the most worthwhile purchase.
as long as you only fill them right before an weather event and make sure they are keeped clean (from mold after being empty) I think it's a good idea. I like this jug more because it's clear and I can see if mold occurs
There was a guide on what to do if you get your snowmobile stuck, I can't find it but that may be useful (look for it in this subreddit).
Here's a few helpful things to get, in this order:
Water canteens
Thermal blanket
High protein food (like Nature Valley Peanut Granola bar, nuts, etc.)
Warm clothes, maybe a jacket, sleeping bag, etc.
Snow shovel
Tire chains
Battery backup for your phone
Definitely stay with the car, someone might come along and be of help (maybe not though). Don't leave work or home without a fully charged phone and battery backup. It doesn't seem like you'll be there very long, so don't worry too much, but if you are going to be there more than 24 hours, make a shelter with the solar/thermal blanket and your car doors, and make a fire if you can... might be useful to carry some fire starters and a hatchet.
Yes, see the picture of it hoooked up (with extra tubing) to a large bag:
http://sawyer.com/products/sawyer-mini-filter/
Although you might want to stick with something more dedicated for that task like:
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP162-Complete-Filtration/dp/B005SO94A0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1416897147&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=sawyer+gravity
Because the sawyer will have less throughput and slightly less efficacy (note that the sawyer mini is still about 10x better than the life straw and filters much more water while only being a few bucks more or the same price if bought in bulk. I bought 4 minis for $65 shipped).
There are many {#1, #2, #3} cheap water purification tablets that when paired with propel mix-ins provide a great and clean taste. That is if you're worried about the quality/taste of the water from a tap.
I've found that these work great on a trip, they are less expensive (long run) than bottled water.
Stanley makes a nice one. Check it out on Amazon. I like that it is easy to clean and fill.
https://amzn.com/B00E0E0M9G
> 1) What are the must have /favorite features in your trailers? From what I have seen options on the gallery are a bit divided. I want to make sure I consider all the options when I plan it out.
I thought I NEEDED to have a built in stove but looking back I'd much rather have a place to store/use a standard 2 burner propane stove.
Also I like the built in sink options in theory, but most are just too small to be worth it. I'd much rather have a space for a 5 gallon jug to sit on it's side with a closeable spout like this: http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Water-Carrier-5-Gallon-Blue/dp/B00168PI4S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1464199433&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=5+gallon+jug
Oh man I got this. My number one hack that I brought that I have to recommend is a large water jug. My group and I used this for drinking water at the camp as well as washing hands and even washing our hair. I filled it up with that sweet Texas water and returned home with one gallon to spare. This is better than packing cases of water bottles because there is less trash and you can use the water for other things besides drinking. It may sound silly but I cannot recommend this enough.
Other things that came in handy that I recommend:
At home or in my RV I have Big Berkey's with white ceramic filters. I also have a fairly large number of spare filters of both varieties. It filters water from my roof fed cistern more than well enough for drinking after the normal house 5 and 1 micron canister filters.
For my BoB/GHB or out camping I use either a Sawyer Squeeze or a Sawyer Mini. Both are great portable filters. Before I switched to those I used a Katadyn Hiker Pro which works well but the filters are only good for a few hundred gallons.
The collapsible ones are prone to wear and leakage. A rigid 5/6 gallon container like this or this would be a better bet, is reuasable, and produces less waste up front and over it's life period. Plus, at a gallon a day per person, this will provide a couple with the recommended 3 days of water. Sure, the up front cost is higher but even a light camper will make up that cost eventually. If you really want to shell out, I believe they make metal containers that are food safe and designed for long term potable water storage.
This has been great for me, a little pricey, but great.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ASI9II/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000KUVVY4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1372532548&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SL75
Here ya go! I assume he/she is referring to one of these. This one is awesome. Very light and compact. Turns even dirty water in to tasty drinkable water. The replaceable filter is good for around 600 liters, which for me is good for about 10 years. Easy to use and eliminates all dangers except for viruses, which generally are not a problem in North America.
You can buy chlorine tablets to add if you're concerned about viruses, but they make the water taste funny and are unnecessary IMO.
What size Rucker?
The Rucker capacity is measured in liters. In the beautiful consistent logic of the Metric system, 1 liter of water = 1 kg (2.2 lbs).
So, the smallest 15 liter Rucker should be able to hold around 30 pounds (15l x 2.2 lbs. = 33 lbs., but that's under ideal jug form factor conditions).
However, that particular bladder holds only 20 pounds. You can get smaller bottles to add weight.
Hey sorry to necro this, but do you need a hydration pack to use this? Going to be doing a lot of hiking next summer - I've always carried water in for most of my trips, as they're usually only a few days, but it's about time I convert to a filter I think. What is the flow rate with this? I was looking at the quick release version, seemed to get outstanding reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Quick-Release-Inline-Water-Filter/dp/B0034VR8ES/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1349042010&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=sawyer+3-way
> Any tips for keeping warm?
Don't rely on regular blankets for a winter camping trip. Get a decent 20 F sleeping bag and also a cheap rectangular 40 F bag. Unzip the 40 and have ready to use as a quilt on top if you get cold in the middle of the night.
For the day, consider some synthetic thermal underwear and a pair of wool socks. Cover your ears. Warm gloves. Dirt cheap at Walmart.
> What do I do if it rains?
Get an inexpensive but not flimsy poncho so you don't get soaked if it starts raining while you're out hiking. I like to use with a baseball cap to keep rain off my face.
> I do have a propane grill, but not sure if I can use that.
Consider a simple single burner propane stove. Not butane. Butane is for warm weather. Or just take Sterno and two bricks (set on edge in an L shape) to block the wind and prop up your pot. I'm serious. Sterno is a practically effortless simple way to cook, just a little slower than propane.
> Should I bring a cooler? With ice? how long will that last?
Yes, bring a cooler. Get some gallon size Ziplocs, fill with water, and freeze them solid a couple days before you leave. Put them in the bottom of the cooler, then food and drinks, then ice cubes to fill in. Should last three days.
Consider a 5 gallon jug with a tap if there is no running water at your campground.
Enjoy! Car camping is not that dangerous. You can just pack up and go home if the weather turns bad.
If you want something more secure than flushing directly with a sport cap you could use the blue adapter from this pair (less than $3) and a short length of tubing (like the one that came with the Mini) to give you a better connection to a bottle thread than the syringe even.
You're kit includes excessive water and that is heavy. It also doesn't have a means to filter more water than what you bring. Why not instead bring 4 lifestraws or a 2 bag nanofilter system or sawyer mylar filter?
I've spent 2+ months outside on a trail carrying up to 4L of water at a time, and hiked over 2000 miles in the mountains and plains on both coasts. You don't need to carry more than that (1 gal) unless you are in the desert or an arid place and walking over 12mi with no water. Water is everywhere, you just need to have technology to filter it properly. The things I linked to above are ultralight and allow you to store up and move quickly. But keep in mind the best place to store water however is inside your own body (cameling up).
Try going to your local camping/outdoor supply store. They often have large water containers to set up in your campsite. The ones I got are flexible plastic containers that fold up flat, but inflate like a giant water balloon into a cube shape when full.
Hereโs an amazon link to one similar to the ones I have:
Reliance Products 5 Gallon Poly-Bagged Fold-A-Carrier Collapsible Water Carrier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001QBZI90/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_k0RzDb25BXN7E
Land is always owned, either by the goverment or privately. Just going out randomly might get you in trouble- probably no more than a fine but still.
Most national parks I believe allow for dispersed camping, which is what you want- no services, nothing prefabricated. Looks like there are five places in California for it.
Dangers... Getting lost is a biggie- been too long since I camped off fabricated sites so can't help you much there.
Water is a biggie, no matter how clear the river or lake, never drink directly from it if you can help it or you may get sick- you'll need to boil it or use Water purification tabs- best to take some of those with you even if you don't plan on using the things. Dehydration is also a killer while camping- make sure you drink enough each day.
Fire is obviously important- and in california, you gotta be extremely careful not to, well, burn down the forest or what have you. Dig a fire pit, and make sure the area around it is cleared of dried grass, and have a bucket of sand or something to pour on the fire when you're done with it. I'd recommend a flint and steel and firestarters for emergencies even if you plan on bringing matches or a lighter.
Food obviously comes next- I'd highly recommend you plan for the possibility you find absolutely nothing edible and bring enough food for that eventuality.
Wildlife, honesty the most important thing is keeping your food away from you- tie your pack up in a tree while you're sleeping, tightly seal any food you didn't eat or burn it or bury it away from your campsite, and you'll reduce the problems greatly.
Something like this?
I have one and it fit my tablet and everything when I was traveling. I did use a collapsible water bottle when I traveled.
I used:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0047QV0AM/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482642857&amp;sr=1-9&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
(Mobile, sorry).
And hiked in an empty plastic jug. Worked great. Aim for the fast moving water, and you'll be fine.
when u wake up drink water straight away . i drink a quart of water once i wake up . i bought this water filter and the water is really good
Although you say there will be clean water you can never be too safe with it. Pick up some cheap lightweight water purification tablets also you should really just get a pack cover to be safe.
I use the older Katadyn pump. It does not have the multi flow feature, but I've never found the need for it. It does have an attachment for filling water bottles, but you can also insert the hose to fill your camelbak. It's on sale at Amazon right now: http://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Hiker-PRO-Water-Microfilter/dp/B0007U012U/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1333465165&amp;sr=8-3
I've used those sawyer squeeze bottles on a remote camping trip with generally clean lake water, and found that they do need a fair amount of back-flushing. 6L of lake water made a new filter really slow to a trickle, but the back-flush procedure fixes it right back up. Can't beat the size, but know a standard pump-style filter smokes the sawyer mini with regard to speed.
You'll want to keep that syringe handy, or better yet, get the in-line hydration pack accessory - then you can cut a bit of tubing and attach to a 20-oz bottle. It works way faster for cleaning than filling (and refilling, and refilling...) the syringe, plus it packs down smaller. Saw that trick on some guy's YouTube channel (can't find the link right now), and it was slick.
As NeuseRvrRat says, you have to let air out as you pump water into a bottle, so that limits using threads. This would work well filtering into a water pouch, though.
You can, if you wish, get the adapter doohickeys, and attach the blue one to the Mini with a very short piece of hose. This would give you direct coupling between a receptacle vessel and the mini.
> (tuna fish will be a staple of the apocalypse diet)
But think of the mercury poisoning! Kidding - thanks for the reminder about water to those who don't keep it on hand. We picked up this from amazon for just such an event
Hmmm....
I purchased:
This photo should help
Let me know if this helps
Haven't ventured much into the flask world but I stumbled across this on clearance for something like $3 a couple years back. Mine is green. Not the most UL thing but 150g isn't terrible.
Can't puncture, hasn't leaked, easily refillable/washable, and at 7oz it's enough for short trips. There's always beer with me too.
https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Adventure-eCycle-Flask-Navy/dp/B00E0E0M9G/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1496494341&amp;sr=8-17&amp;keywords=plastic+flask
You need a free flowing spout- so it depends on your shower bag. You also need to attach paper towels to it. I use this five gallon water tank. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00168PI4S/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425493367&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=five+gallon+water+camp+dispenser&amp;pi=AC_SY200_QL40&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41o89IV63%2BL&amp;ref=plSrch
lifestraws are dope.
get the lifestraw universal kit
https://www.amazon.com/LifeStraw-Universal-Adapter-Hydroflask-Camelbak/dp/B074WJDZYK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1522185651&amp;sr=8-7&amp;keywords=lifestraw+go+water+bottle+with+filter
i also like the ketadyn filter as well....do a search for those on amazon or rei
Actually no sir, none of that is needed with something like this. (absolutely worth the money if you go on long wilderness trips)
Never use a cheap filter like Brita, unless you are going to boil and add tablets. Those kinds of filters are only changing the taste, not the safety of the water.
Yea, walmart. But they've put all the other stores that would be options out of business.
Amazon sells the same item
Cheaper too. Might pick up a couple more.
I think it's 1/2 teaspoon of regular clorox per gallon keeps the water safe for decades. When you need it, open the lid and let it sit for a day and the chlorine will dissipate away.
Easy mode: 5-gallon jug with a spigot. It sits on its side and you turn the tap on and the water runs. these meet that description & can also be used for drinking water. Set it on a shelf or stack of boxes to get the spigot at the right height.
You could also look into a camping shower from wherever you buy your camping supplies to see if it's what you're looking for.
I use 5 gallon collapsible containers, just fill them up before the storm and store until the next one so you're never running around looking for water.
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Looks like you could still order today and have them Saturday if you have prime.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001QBZI90/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've been researching this same issue. I ended up going with a Steripen, instead.
I feel like filters just don't do the job as well for a similar price. Some less expensive ones might be just as effective, but they might be a little unwieldy, like this one. Or you'll have something like this, which is comparable in price to a good Steripen, but it's still bulkier, has a lot of moving parts, and isn't particularly durable. I'd probably only be comfortable with a filter if I went with something like this, which is still, admittedly, a little bulky -- and a hell of a lot more expensive.
Of course, Steripens have their own problems. They require batteries -- a fully charged rechargeable battery might get you 40 uses for most of the popular Steripen models, while a single-use lithium set might get you a hundred uses.
Finally, don't forget that big bottles of water in India run about Rs. 15 each. (You can go for the off brands, which might run as low as Rs. 7. Some NRIs warned me against drinking the off brands, but I've never had a problem with them.) To combat the mountains of plastic, some places sell potable water for you to refill your bottles with, but these are few and far between. (The only one I've seen marketed to backpackers was in Leh, which is a mecca for hippies.)
Of course, there are tablets, but those get disgusting after a while.
It is - I like it a lot - its not insulated though just a standard Nalgene design made out of stainless.
https://www.amazon.com/Nalgene-Stainless-Bottle-38-oz/dp/B004ASI9II/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1525010531&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Nalgene+341955+38+Oz.+Standard+Stainless+Steel+Bottle
I have a camelbak steel body with lifestraw mouth piece. It come with two different mouth piece to fit most.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074WJDZYK?psc=1&amp;ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title
Get you a Sawyer gravity drip. Pumping gets old really quick. Just fill the bladder and relax while your water vessel of choice gets filled.
Sawyer Products SP160 One-Gallon Gravity Water Filtration System with Dual-Threaded Mini Filter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XZVBSMX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_y2QgDbXQ3M671
Protip: the amount you have to purge in backflow will be determined by how dirty the source water is.
I use this one in line with my water bladder. It works great, I just fill my bladder with dirty water and drink.
Ahh, ok. I'm not aware of a bottle that the BeFree screws into outside of the Hydrapak (they also make the collapsible one that it comes with). On the JMT last year I just filled up the 2L seeker, filtered 1L into a Smart Water bottle which takes all of 20 sec, then left the 1L in the Seeker until I needed to refill the SW. The BeFree really does filter fast if you only want to use the .6L or 1L container that it comes with and filter into your existing SW/evernew.
Otherwise, it's heavier but Lifestraw has a universal adapter that you may be able to customize for your needs.
2 things for the sawyer setup.
I actually just tried doing this at my apartment for similar reason.
I ended up scrapping the idea and putting one of these next to my tank instead. The ottoman with a tank inside of it was just too risky. The ottoman I found did not have a solid lid, if you sat on it, the lid would sink in a bit and you would be sitting directly on the tank. When looking for(or building) an ottoman, please make sure that you find one that the lid does not sink in at all. It only takes one unaware guest at your place to sit down fast and shatter that tank.
I use a Katadyn Hiker filter. Easy to use, no waiting for chemicals to work, long-lasting cartridge.
This one https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XZVBSMX/ref=sspa_mw_detail_5?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Never had a moment trouble
> Is there anything "portable" that is faster?
Something from Katadyn like
Or buy a few Sawyer Mini's and rig up a gravity system (hang a 2-liter bottle you fill with the 'dirty' water, and have it empty into your 'clean' container). "fast" isn't as much of an issue when you can let gravity do the work while you do other things.
For processing at home you can just buy some food-grade buckets and berkey-style filters if you don't want to go all out buying one of the stainless steel bodies from Berkey or one of the no-brand ones from St Paul Mercantile http://stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?main_page=index&amp;cPath=71 (I have one of these, been using it over a year now for my tap water, virtually identical to my friend's much more expensive Berkey body).
So I just picked up an MSR hydration kit for my dromedary and the SP110 hose adapters. I'm expect it'll do okay as a jury-rigged gravity set up, but any idea if it'll hold up as a squeeze setup?
You can buy some cheap attachments that screw into the sawyer on both ends and then you cut your tube wherever you want the sawyer to go and insert the attachments into the hose and there ya go. If you ever the filter out, the two ends can be screwed back together and work like normal.
https://www.amazon.ca/Products-SP110-Hydration-Adapters-Filters/dp/B008JX0QP4
I just searched water container on Amazon and found one for $25.
Reliance Products Desert Patrol 6 Gallon Rigid Water Container https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002IW6IY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_uKYRzb6NZ0CXW
I was just going to suggest this! Here is an example of what I had in mind, but any large water jug would probably work.
water filter
I use my Sawyer 3-way on hydro packs all the time. I spliced it into the tubing and use Sawyer's quick disconnects that came with the filter.
Two of these water bladders. They can provide drinking water, wash your feet and general cleaning purposes.
Also fest season isn't over until November! Come to Live Oak, FL for Bear Creek, one of the funkiest get downs ever!
I got two 5 gallon water jugs and filled them with cheap contractors sand from home depot. Came out to about 75 pounds each iirc.
Theses are the ones I got.
American Made Water Bottle, 5-Gallon, Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U77M004/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jQQczbMPKA513
Alexapure Pro Stainless Steel Water Filtration System - 5,000 Gallon Throughput Capacity https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G0Q61YQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Tc71BbH4EQ1N1
You get this:
https://www.amazon.com/Nalgene-Stainless-Bottle-38-oz/dp/B004ASI9II/
Nalgene Stainless Bottle 38 oz. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ASI9II/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_FlHNDbMRJF85F
Sawyer makes water filters for camping that require zero electricity. You can use lake or river water. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XZVBSMX
They make smaller versions too.
There are conversion kits available for the squeeze.
My husband and I have a few of these: http://www.thereadystore.com/5-gallon-stackable-water-container and these http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Water-Carrier-5-Gallon-Blue/dp/B00168PI4S
Reusable and keeps the dust out.
Buy this: https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Poly-Bagged-Carrier-Collapsible/dp/B001QBZI90/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480235939&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=collapsible+water+jug
Ok.
I have one of these in the civilization's collapsing kit: https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Technology-Microfilter-Backpacking-Preparedness/dp/B000KUVVY4
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But maybe a couple of these https://www.amazon.com/LifeStraw-Personal-Water-Filter/dp/B072BC51LT/ for just in case.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008JX0QP4/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_eF78ub1DN031B
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Katadyn Befree
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001QBZI90?cache=3322ea5acd628d4a1ff000cc32ceae2a&amp;pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&amp;qid=1405050839&amp;sr=8-9#ref=mp_s_a_1_9
Here is the mobile version of your link
>So you're only going to have to fill your canteen with black water and then make it white by drinking it through the straw.
I also included water purification tablets as well as a stainless steel bottle for boiling. Neither of those are as convenient as a water filter, though. I may get [chlorine dioxide tablets](http://www.amazon.com/Potable-Aqua-Chlorine-Dioxide-Tablets/dp/B0023FDQ2O/](http://www.amazon.com/Potable-Aqua-Chlorine-Dioxide-Tablets/dp/B0023FDQ2O/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1332574006&amp;sr=1-1) in place of the iodine tablets, but I just had the iodine tablets lying around already.
I'll probably follow your advice and get this water filter, which is good for 500 gallons.
A month is easy. For less than $100 you can get a good water filter and bucket of nonpersishable food
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But if you are really preparing for collapse, you need to plan for the long haul. Two years supply of food, start gardening, figure out plans for heating and cooking fuel.
Sawyer in-line. Cannot sing the praises of this thing enough:
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Quick-Release-Inline-Water-Filter/dp/B0034VR8ES/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1346301982&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=sawyer+water+purifier
Seems like a bad idea to use the same color for water and kerosene.
No my came with a cap set that fits over nalgene and hydroflasks, and a smaller cap that fits in klean kanteens. I posted a link to it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074WJDZYK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1521064915&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&amp;keywords=lifestraw+universal&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41h26wg0VvL&amp;ref=plSrch
In my experience 'squeezing' doesn't work unless it's into your mouth from a water bottle, or using the small 500ml dirty bags Saywer provides, which then is a PITA because they're so small. With the bigger bags (I even have the 2Gal sawyer bag) they don't squeeze well and you run into air/vacuum issues while trying to do so. Squeezing also isn't much faster, it's going to take a couple minutes either way to filter 2l so it's much more convenient to let gravity do the work.
If I were you I'd buy the Saywer Squeeze or mini + inline adapters ($5) and then get a cheap platypus 3l (a 2l bladder will never fit exactly 2L in it, you'd always be short a little, but you can always fill a 3L one to 2.25l or something. Platypus has a built in handle you can hook up to a tree or something, and with the hose + adapters just screw the other end right on to the smartwater bottle and leave it on the ground- this way you don't have to worry about leaks or overflowing, you can just come back to it when it's full. lift the bottle up above the platypus, unscrew it and then screw on the next bottle and put it back down on the ground.
It would look like this but just imagine instead of going into another bladder that was one of your smartwater bottles on the ground.
I do something similar except i gravity from the 2gal saywer bag (also built in handle) into my platypus and then into my partners smartwater bottles since our system is communal and she prefers bottles to bladders.
I started with a 20 gallon Winware Aluminium kettle, a custom bag , ball valve, a clip on thermometer, and a couple of Aquatainers for no chill. I miss the simplicity of that setup.
I have well water at my house. It is OK for malt-forward styles, but not really that great for hop-forward beers. I could never brew an IPA that met my standards before switching to RO and building water profiles. Once you figure out what works for you, it becomes routine, and not really much work. I keep 2 blue Coleman 5 gallon water cans in my trunk, and just fill them up whenever I am at the grocery store, even if I no immediate plans to brew. I prefer the blue water cans over carboys for this purpose because they have handles, are square with a squat design, and have screw on lids. https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-5-Gallon-Water-Carrier/dp/B00168PI4S/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1481809712&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=coleman+water+jug
I brought one of those 5 gallon collapsible portable water containers
Fill it up, use it, comes back smaller right?
Nope- It easily slipped from closed to open and leaked all over the inside of our tent. Just what we needed after surviving set up in the rain early Monday morning. :(
I wouldn't overthink the fire starter. A couple cheap lighters and a magnesium fire starter combined with the tinder options below should cover just about any situation. Total cost $7. You can also check out /r/edcexchange & /r/knife_swap for a decent fixed blade.
For the price, these are hard to beat. https://www.amazon.com/Glock-Field-Knife-Fixed-Battlefield/dp/B01DOOWT3O
Hell, I'll send you a good Kabar for $45.
Water
https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8018270-Hiker-Microfilter/dp/B0047QV0AM
Everything except the flashlight for $100
I would also argue those water clarification tablets. I used them once while on a long hike and boy did they give me the shits. It looked so much like curry it could've fooled an Indian. Not to mention it makes the water taste like shit. I would recommend some lifestraws or something like this and a few of its filters.
I lived in a little potting shed for a year, it was chilly, but fine. All you need is a 5 gallon bucket and one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Emergency-Bucket-Portable-Toilet-Standard/dp/B004KLY5CE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414046370&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=bucket+toilets and a 5 gallon water container that you fill up at the spigot every day or so http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Water-Carrier-5-Gallon-Blue/dp/B00168PI4S/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414046409&amp;sr=8-5&amp;keywords=5+gallon+water+bottle a bowl and a sponge and you're set up for a make-shift sink/ sponge bath...
Haven't you ever been camping? If you are homeless and broke and someone is offering you a warm, dry place to sleep why are you wasting time freaking out about building a loft? That looks like about 300 sq feet of space there and you'll be able to set up a basic "camp kitchen" and sleeping area NO PROBLEM. Get a WARM sleeping bag and a mattress to insulate you from the floor because baseboard heat is going to be EXPENSIVE. If you can't shower at the gym or at a friend's place, get a solar shower and a big pot and heat water on a camp stove and fill the bag that way. You need a place to prepare food: camp stove/microwave/folding table/minimal cooking and eating utensils. A place to sleep: floor mat/warm sleeping bag a place to bathe: a friend's place or a camp shower setup. A place to toilet: fast food restaurants/a friend's house/a camp toilet setup. A place to store clothes: fold neatly on the floor/get some cheap shelves like thishttp://www.amazon.com/Safco-Products-Storage-Black-5279BL/dp/B000789RSQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1414046914&sr=8-2&keywords=grid+shelves and that's it! Anything else is extra and unnecessary