Multipurpose waterproof match case. I prefer this case because it's not much bigger than other waterproof cases, but has other stuff built into it. I put waterproof matches in it along with the striker strip from the package. The whistle is good for signaling. The other functions are marginal, so I supplement them with the actual things, which consist of a signal mirror, lensatic compass, and emergency fire starter.

A stove and solid fuel. I was pretty impressed with this particular one when I received it. It's stainless steel, well constructed, and you can store four fuel tabs inside of it.

A multitool and a fixed-blade knife. I don't have either of these specific models, but they seem pretty decent.

A folding shovel. These are good for burying waste, helping a car gain traction in the winter, etc.

A self-adhesive bandage. This is a three-pack. The single one cost $4 locally. Buy this one and leave the other two in your medicine cabinet. Wrap the remaining one around a piece of cardboard and put it in your emergency pack.

Disposable antibacterial wipes.

Antimicrobial silver gel. Like Neosporin, but better. Stays on a wound for multiple days without covering, and the colloidal silver is a strong antimicrobial agent. See the oligodynamic effect.

Dust masks. This is for a 50-pack, but for half the price, you only get 10 at a local store. These help prevent you from spreading germs if you're sick, and keep you from inhaling macroscopic particles if you're in a dusty/dirty area.

QuikClot sponge bandage. This helps to stop bleeding from major injuries. Along with an Israeli battle dressing you have two great ways to help stem major bleeding, separately or combined.

Local anesthetic for stings. Good for numbing injuries other than stings, too.

Sterile pads, 4” x 4”.

Sunscreen.

Cigarette-adapter power inverter. Good for charging small electronics.

Hand warmers.

Work gloves and watchcap.

All of the following are probably best bought in stores or scrounged up around the house:

Toothbrush, toothpaste, floss, all with obvious uses.

Aspirin, for heart attacks and pain, ibuprofen for pain, anti-histamine for allergic reactions, and Imodium or off-brand equivalent for diarrhea. I can't stress having Imodium enough. Having cramps and shits can render you unable to do anything for long periods of time, even more so than other ailments.

A disposable razor can be used to shave to keep up appearances, or to shave the area around a wound for better bandaging.

Maxi pads and tampons can be used as intended as well as to prevent bleeding from wounds.

Toilet paper. Wrap it around a piece of cardboard to save space.

Bandanas or an old shirt can be used to make a sling, protect yourself from the sun, filter macroscopic particles out of water, filter dirty/dusty air, etc.

Hot chocolate with caffeine added can be used to help stay alert.

Lighters are a must-have to start a fire.

I also have a Ziploc bag containing about ten cotton balls soaked in petroleum jelly. They're great firestarters.

Cash. Keep various bills and coins in an amount that you think is suitable for emergencies.

Maps. Carry folding maps of your area, state, and surrounding states.

I think that covers everything that I have. There's a lot of redundancy, but it all fits in my bag, so I'm happy with it. I'm definitely interested in hearing thoughts as to what can be added or changed.

If its a Wrangler and you have decent tires - ie Semi Aggressive All Terrains or Light Truck Tires and 31+ inches, I wouldn't even bother unless you really feel a lot of resistance. Pure road tires, definitely air down. On my LJ I have, it's stock with 31" Semi Aggressive AT tires and I almost never aired down in the 13 years I owned it. It's seen I don't know how many beach miles up and down the east coast. There was noticeable difference when I did air down though (less throttle needed, ran cooler), but it still did fine. If you do air down, about 15-18 PSI is where you want it, much lower and you risk the tire falling off the rim.

With the new Jeep in the pic, I didn't air down at all, the 35" tires treated the beach like it wasn't there. They were at 40 PSI and I will likely never air them down for the beach again. I probably could have gotten out there in 2WD on it's current setup.

Beach driving has a lot more to do with momentum management than most other factors. Airing down just helps that little bit more. If you are in loose sand, don't stop, keep it moving at a steady pace or even give it more speed before you hit the loose sand. That's the biggest factor when I watch people get stuck. They panic and slow down instead of keeping the vehicle moving. There is a really soft and torn up section where it's a turn to get to the ocean front and it's where everyone gets stuck cause they take it too slow and stop the car in the horribly loose sand, I pull people out of there all the time.

Some other Tips

• Bring a Shovel - useful for digging out - mostly to help non jeep owners get out ;) - I use a surplus army one but something like this - https://www.amazon.com/SOG-Entrenching-Tool-F08-N-Folding/dp/B0038A05X6/ref=sr_1_1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1494981775&sr=1-1&keywords=folding+shovel
  
• one or two 2x6 boards 2-3 feet long - useful to put in front of tires to provide traction and lift the Jeep if you bog in the sand - also if you need to jack the Jeep for any reason it provides a platform. - Acquired at any Hardware store
  
• If you start to get stuck and are throwing sand/digging yourself in - STOP - Get out and assess your predicament. It's a lot easier to stick the boards in front of the tires when you aren't in sand up to your chassis. The deeper you go, the more sand YOU have to move out of the way.
  
• No winch would be needed, a tow strap is fine - I have spent summers with my tow strap pulling people out of the sand with the stock tow hooks on the front and back - https://www.amazon.com/Grip-Heavy-Duty-Tow-Strap/dp/B000I60HV8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1494981378&sr=8-5&keywords=tow+strap - $22 and great piece of mind - I don't use any metal hooks or d rings, it works fine without them for the beach
  
• If it's somewhat popular beach and you do get stuck, most any other Jeep owner would help you out. I do it all summer long for anyone I see stuck. It's actually a lot of fun to help recover vehicles and to see the look on peoples faces when they are relieved about what they are going to do. Don't be embarrassed about it, own it and learn from it, gotta get better somehow.
  
• Wash the undercarriage when you are done. The salt and sand will quickly rot you out.
  
  Trust me, it's not too difficult. Keep your momentum, if you do start to get stuck, don't make it worse, get out and use your tools to get you out or ask for help.
  
  Good luck! If you have other questions, id be glad to answer, PM me :) I expect to see pics!
  

>How would you prepare food while camping when bears are around? would you not do grilled meats and potatos?

So I actually only do backpacking but same premise for car camping. Preferably cook in one spot and then eat it in another. Cooking meat puts a ton of attractive aromas out.

So I'd recommend cooking and eating in different spots and then there's an item called a bear bag made by tons of brands and there's thousands of them on amazon. Basically it's either a bag or plastic drum that you tie a rope to and then a rock or weight at the other end. Then you throw the bag over a branch and the rock acts as a counterweight. Also use the bathroom decently far from where you're at and use cat-holes with a shovel or some digging tool.

Bear bag:

Tough one

This is an expensive one that is supposed to protect the food.

Cheap

This is a much cheaper alternative but won't stop a bear from eating your stuff. So if you're bringing extra food and storing it in the car then I'd say go with the cheaper as food amount won't be an issue.

Plastic bear bag:

Plastic

No bears should be able to get into this either.


Poop tool:

Trowel

Super light and easy to clean. This is backed by nearly every ultralight camper.


Props to you on the current gear list, you've done some good research. I noticed you didn't have sleeping bag on the list but you have those right?

Reddit is also split on firearms for bear safety. Personally I am on the pro side of that but will always use the spray first. Let me know if you'd like to learn about firearm safety with bears.

Disclaimer: I don't make any money off of these links, and it's mostly based on my personal, and close friends', experiences with them. I've been bush-crafting, camping, hiking, and hunting for 15 years now, not as a brag but just for frame of reference. I've used a lot of gear over that time.

1.) Something that is grey.

2.) Something reminiscent of rain. It always rains when I go camping

3.) Something food related that is unusual. Tiramisu wafer cookies. Better than sex.

4.) Something on your list that is for someone other than yourself. I have a whole wishlist for other people. My boyfriend, gramdma, mom, dad, and little brother.

5.) A book you should read! Clearly. You should have read these already because they are the best books evar.

6.) An item that is less than a dollar, including shipping Not on my wishlist

7.) Something related to cats Leopards are big cats.

8.) Something that is not useful, but so beautiful you must have it.

9.) A movie everyone should watch at least once in their life. Because it's the best trilogy of all time.

10.) Something that would be useful when the zombies attack. To whack them in the head and the use the pick to smash their brains out. And it's foldable so it will fit in a backpack.

11.) Something that would have a profound impact on your life and help you to achieve your current goals. I'm a student and I practically live in the library most of the school year. I need a laptop because the computers at school are SO outdated.

12.) One of those pesky Add-On items.

13.) The most expensive thing on your list. Your dream item. PS4! I need this because I love to game and I really, really need Kingdom Hearts 3. Like really.

14.) Something bigger than a bread box.

15.) Something smaller than a golf ball.

16.) Something that smells wonderful. This is the BEST SCENT EVER. It smells like marshmallows, fire burning, and vanilla.

17.) A (SFW) toy. Grown-up toy!

18.) Something that would be helpful for going back to school.

19.) Something related to your current obsession, whatever that may be. Harry Potter is always an obsession.

[20.) Something that is just so amazing and awe-inspiring that I simply must see it. ]()

[Anything that has my real name on it.]()

Anything made in Oregon. This is a bit of a stretch but bear with me. The Bourne Triology preceeds The Bournce Legacy. Which starred Edward Norton who also starred in Fight Club. A movie based off the book who was written by none other than Chuck Palahniuk who is from Oregon & resides there.

I'll be back to finish this!

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So sorry for how long this is... ☹️
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Titanium Pot - 28 oz savings ($35)

Drop The mug, just use your pot - 4 oz savings (free)

Trowel instead of shovel - 16 oz savings ($20)

Drop the solar panel (doesn't really work well on the move) - 10-ish savings (free)

Sawyer Squeeze instead of Katadyn - 8 oz savings ($30)

Dance Pants instead of packed pants - 14 oz saved ($18) although you probably dont need these since you're wearing zip off pants

I would add a puffy to your clothing, it will get pretty cold - 10 oz gained (can be found on sale for $40)

Leave the extra shirts at home - 12 oz saved (free)

Just bring one extra payer of underwear and socks - 6 oz saved (free)

Leave campshoes at home - 23 oz saved (free)

I really don't know what the survival kit contains, but it can probably be paired down or eliminated

Don't know what the carabiners are for if you're hanging stuff outside your pack you're bringing too much - 4 oz saved (free)

Don't know what the tarp is for the sierras, you already have a tent

125 oz saved or almost 8 pounds. Coming in at a cost around $150.

I would start here and then look at replacing your bigger items. The easiest one to save the most weight would be your pack.

Hope this helps!

The (I'll assume it's the player character) Player seems kinda off in body proportions: His arms are skinnier than his legs, his torso seems a bit too bulky and the Army Uniform and Armor isn't VeRy AcCuRaTe to real life Uniforms and Armor (I owned one of these Camo Uniforms a while ago so I can help you with references).

The Weapons could use better textures and the guns seem very... Boring? You could mix gun parts to create a new gun in order to train.

The shovel could use another Source as reference, This one should do the trick but there's also This one.

The backpack could come in different varieties, Gall seems like a good source since they have multiple Models. Could be the basic Backpack, Middle Tier Backpack and finally these two for the 'Army' Backpacks: Very big Backpack, Green, Other one or This one.

That drone seems Civilian drone, not the scouting one used by Police forces and rarely by the Army. The police used by the West Midland police force (UK) mention 3 UAVs or Drones: Yuneec Tornado H920 is the biggest one, Normal sized one Yuneec Tornado H520 and the Smallest DJI Mavic Pro (Will see if they look better than yours in a minute)

Overall: Pretty good modeling ( I can't do anything decent lol) but could use more originality.

Will definitely keep an eye out for "END"

This guy is giving some great advice, but given you're traveling with four people, don't be too spartan with the snacks. Going with four people means only 1-2 people have to carry tents/butane. This means you can, and IMO should, be willing to bring fun extra snacks (I like gummy bears and Hi-Chews) as well as spices/flavor for meals. And coffee! Of course what's essential is packing your backpacks with everything and giving a weight assessment as to what you think you can carry for however many days you're travelling. Given it's your first time, like the guy above me said, be conservative because you don't really know. But again, a four person group will inevitably be weight imbalanced and if you're all decently fit you can bring extra enjoyables.

And as to this guy's last point, because this is super important, BURY YOUR SHIT. Bring at least one spade like this to bury poo. It's the right thing to do.

I'm new here, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you could really use a good shovel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzpRh-ZE9Mo

http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

Amazing pack though, and great documentation. You have my vote.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just re-checked the Google spreadsheet. You already have a U-Dig-It Folding Shovel and Pouch. Man, what didn't you think of?

If you're looking at foldable shovels, I'd check out the Chinese Military issue one here ---> http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

Here's a pretty quirky government video that demonstrates the many uses of it--->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o

I don't have any experience with one myself, but they seem pretty useful and might be of interest to you or any other outdoorsman here.

I have a Gerber multi-tool Suspension GE22-41471. I like it but it's pretty heavy for its size and, as others have said, you don't need half the tools in the wilderness.

Go Outdoors have a selection. Might be cheaper on Amazon.

I have a folding saw which is light.

You could try a wire saw. I haven't tried one myself.

I find my folding trowel very useful.

Don't get this trowel - it's flimsy

I also have a bushcraft knife. I'm not sure it's legal to carry around (UK) all the time but I think it's ok if you're using it while camping etc. (better check if you do buy a knife).

Get your butt in gear! I love yoga, but not in front of people, so this would be great.

or

All the crafty things! I'm going to make soap!

or

Gag me! I like messing with people and honestly, parking violations REALLY tick me off. This would be great for people that park in handicap spaces with out a placard. I hate those lazy bums.

or

Things you need for the apocalypse The apocalypse is coming, best to be prepared!

or

Do you even know how to use that? I'm trained as an EMT and the one I carry got popped.

I could keep going but I'll stop there, I like this one!

The Glock E-tool is my favorite one. If you are ever planning on moving around or carrying it on you, weight for stuff like this is something most folks don't think about, and it adds up fast. The Glock weighs a mere 26 oz, a fraction of the weight of its competitors. It also has a saw and a hollow handle for storing things.

Glock was able to save significant weight by using the stamp shape to stiffen the end product, using a thinner gauge steel, using hardened and WELL tempered carbon steel instead of the pig-iron that most e-tools are made of, and finally using composite polymer in place of the wood or steel usually employed for the handle. Its durable, not too pricey, and ultralightweight.

For a dose of irony, here's the less functional American knockoff.

PS I have genuine respect for our honorable military forces, and am sure I'll be corrected about how our shovel is superior.

I know I'm a bit late so you won't see this until you get back (I hope XD). But best of luck! Here's my item: http://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-E-Tool-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3CKIQVW8MLIVH&coliid=I1HW25ENVN2G09.

I have never used one of their e-tools. Actually, I've never used an e-tool. They're kind of overkill for my purposes. That isn't actual military surplus if that's what you are asking, though that doesn't necessarily mean it's not just as good or better. SOG has a reputation as being ok, but nothing special. I don't know what the U.S. Military actually uses. I know glock has been making e-tools for the Austrians for since longer than they have been making guns. Those are supposed to be nice, but like I've said I've never shopped around.

This is what I use. Or something equivalent.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000FXY86Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1422559616&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&dpPl=1&dpID=5173WBEEwjL&ref=plSrch

It's light, handy, and durable. But then, I'm not trying to dig trenches or fox holes. I only need to dig the occasional cat hole or fire pit. That kind of thing. I don't want something military, I just want a decent lightweight dig-a-john.

My previous comments were just speaking generally about surplus stores. Not all of their stuff is actually military. A lot of it is just military style, or generic camping gear. Again, that's not always a bad thing, you just need to know what you are getting. There are also a lot of companies that make reproductions of military gear, but it's actually cheap Chinese crap that just looks like surplus gear. Or there are companies that make military style gear that's actually just as good. You've just got to know what you're buying. Just because it's in a surplus store doesn't actually mean that it's actually military surplus.

Amazon. Tactical shovels come in many different forms of badass, so the price can range anywhere from 35 - 300 US Dollars. Here's a link to one I highly recommend, which is the one features in the post. It's a little pricy, but I'm sure it's worth it.

https://www.amazon.com/Survival-Camping-Annihilate-Entrenching-Bushcraft/dp/B07TQ4XZC9

(I had one just like this in my cart, though it was cheaper. Somehow I lost the original listing, so this is my go to now).

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I recommend adding an entrenching tool to your trunk for moving snow in slide-off conditions from in front of your tires. Also can chip ice in parking lots or driveways if stuck.

Add cheap work gloves in case you normally wear decent gloves which you don't want to mess up.

More for comfort, but hand warmers are cheap on Amazon and can add comfort if the shovel fails.

1.) Gotta have a good e-tool, just in case. This is just an example, I don't own one, so I can't really judge it, but if I ever go camping, totally going to have one of these on hand.

2.) Apparently, the Lynx is native to the Pacific Northwest. Huh.

3.) If it's just me and maibuddha when it comes time to decide, give it to maibuddha, please. Otherwise, Into the wild I go.

The reviews on THIS make me laugh.

"Its a trowel. You dig a hole. You poop in it. You fill it up. You leave. Is capable of doing that. Good poop hole digger."

Storage compartments to keep specimens in, something to stay organized. Could be small plastic container, or wooden drawers like a jewelry box. Labeling supplies. Durable collection sack/satchel, possibly something with multiples pouches or pockets. Best tool for starting out would be a shovel. I suggest something like this one. It's on the smaller side but it's cheap so you don't have to worry about it getting beat up as they learn.

A sifting tray would also be an excellent tool for separating dirt and sand from larger stones.

The closest thing I can think of would be a Glock ET. They're damn near indestructible. There's a root saw that comes out of the hilt of the shovel. Not quite and axe but you I use mine to split wood and it works fine. Great locking mechanism on it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KOOUOS/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_7DoJwbK1MNJ74

Yeah, like https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Shovel-Entrenching-Emergency-Backpacking/dp/B01MUHWD0B

But you'd want a really strong handle so that it could work as a crowbar as well.

Maybe include plans for how to do cribbing: https://www.disastersurvivalskills.com/product/cribbing/ that link is out of stock, it's only included to demonstrate what I'm talking about with stacking up pieces of wood -- contact a CERT team or your local fire station to see an example in action.

Ivanka Trump. Compounding the fact that her Dad is insanely rich with missing white woman syndrome, she (and by default I) would be rescued in no time.

Multi purpose survival multitool to make the short wait time bearable.

Mouthwash. In case i get lucky.

Back when I was trying to choose a good shovel it was a debate between the Cold Steel Special Forces Shovel and the Chinese Military Issue shovel.

I ended up going with the Cold Steel version for a couple reasons: one, price. I just can't justify spending almost $100 on a shovel. Two, complexity. The Cold Steel version is simple, extremely rugged, lightweight, and just works. It's tough as hell, does the job it's supposed to do, and I really have no complaints. It's based off the Russian Spetsnaz shovel. The Chinese version just looks like it's too complex for its own good.

I'd really recommend the Cold Steel one unless you have a lot of disposable income and don't mind the problem inherent to more moving parts.

Other options include the Glock entrenching tool,the popular SOG entrenching tool and the US Military entrenching tool.

I'd still recommend Cold Steel's offering over all of these.

It's also distinctly not-Chinese like in that it's one of the most expensive, I love mine though, tons of applications and quite sturdy.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A2GLZS8

Demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiYmk1sBqCo

I don't own one yet, but it is by far the best one I've found from researching.

Good point, like this one???

http://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-E-Tool-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1398090412&sr=1-1&keywords=us+military+shovel

What price range are you looking for? Do your parents generally spend over $100 on your for gifts?

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Here are some basic ideas:

1. Headlamp: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077Z3LNX9
   
2. Stove: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L5S65HR
   
3. Pot: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BVOME9Y
   
4. First Aid Kit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000G7WRBC
   
5. Spoon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0045UA8G2
   
6. Sleeping Pad: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BZ3C900/
   
7. Water Filter: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005EHPVQW
   
8. Water Bladder 1: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AQYY38
   
9. Water Bladder 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000J2KEGY
   
10. Water Bladder 3: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RC9BZ4G
    
11. Trowel: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BFHT4P3
    
12. Trekking Poles: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XM0YGW8
    
13. Battery Pack: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0194WDVHI
    
14. Socks: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074ZR5SJQ
    
15. Buff: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BJ3N9MF
    
    You could also add basic stuff like batteries, lighters, power bars, trash bags, first aid supplies and other consumables.
    
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    Other items are harder to pick without know more details...
    
    

• Tent - do you want to sleep in that hammock, or want a tent too?
  
• Sleeping bag - 30F or 40F bag may be goo enough for Texas 3-seasons?
  
• Backpack - want to keep the one you have, or upgrade?
  
• Footwear - boots or trail runners?
  
• Shirts / Pants - sizes and styles you prefer?
  
• Jackets - need waterproof? puffy warm? other?

SOG Entrenching Tool F08-N - Folding Shovel, High Carbon Steel

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0038A05X6/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_ib8Kyb5SCR12B

Similar to the style used in the army. Any folding style like this. You can unfold it into an L shape to use it as a hoe or as a seat (to rest a cheek on when doing your "business" in the woods. Or just use it straight like a normal shovel the it folds into a small package about the size of a thick notebook for hauling.

Best $20 you can spend, IMO. Portable and heavy duty:

https://www.amazon.com/SOG-Entrenching-Tool-F08-N-Folding/dp/B0038A05X6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542031084&sr=8-3&keywords=collapsible+shovel

Sorry, patriot. Should be eaten with one of these for added freedom:

http://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-E-Tool-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1369456926&sr=1-2&keywords=folding+shovel

If a ninja is six hours late then yes. If he absolutely wants a multi tool one, the FSDUALWIN one available on amazon (not sure where else) has good reviews though it is known for a bad compass, test the compass. Also you need to make sure to slightly twist it while scooping to keep it from coming apart as it is screwed in. Not optimal for shovel, but if you are looking for an emergency kit with a shovel in case you need it, it is perfect.


If he needs a shovel specifically, put the extra money in for a Glock E-Tool or the USGI.

The Wirecutter just did an in-depth review on (full-sized) shovels which I would recommend over a small folding one if you have the space. If you really don't have the space, this one on Amazon comes well reviewed and is military issue

Be sure to visit these links too, to make sure it shows up on the "customers who viewed this item also viewed these"

https://www.amazon.com/Mein-Kampf/dp/0395925037

https://www.amazon.com/Build-Backyard-Brick-Oven-Scratch/dp/1505611814/

https://www.amazon.com/Mil-Tec-German-Style-Folding-Shovel/dp/B00PUMDV4K

I like how they spent the first minute or so showing us how it works as a shovel. I'm thinking they could have skipped that bit, or at least shortened it.

Still, I want one - and I can get it from amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Emergency-Original-Waterproof/dp/B00AXQHZZO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1VSZ32WA3D0Y7BAMF82A

That is pretty much just a trench shovel. Keep in mind that they are very small. This thing is more a a hatchet than an axe.

edit: Ten second search on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Multi-Purpose-5-in-One-Survival-Shovel/dp/B000H3YCX6/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1375067153&sr=8-3-fkmr0&keywords=trench+shovel+saw+hammer

All of this is stored in the trunk of my Jeep strapped down in the black tote pictured. I didn't get all of these things at Amazon, but tried to find a link to purchase everything.

Not pictured is a rollbar mounted fire extinguisher

This isn't specifically for camping, just what I have on me at all times.

Starting at the top right:

• Three pack of road triangles
  
  
• Solar power bank
  
  
• Leatherman Super Tool 300 in black oxide
  
  
• Cyber Power inverter
  
  
• Bungee cords
  
  
  
• Ratchet and random sockets
  
  
  
• Ratchet strap
  
  
  
• Jumper cables
  
  
  
• 30,000 tow strap
  
  
  
• Target brand first aid kit
  
  
  
• Coast px20 with red beam
  
  
  
• Coghlans right angle flashlight
  
  
  
• Eton solar/ crank radio and light
  
  
  
• Tire pressure gauge
  
  
  
• Digital tire pressure gauge
  
  
  
• Military issue folding shovel
  
  
  
• 7 ton shackle permanently borrowed from my ship
  
  
  
• 75ft of paracord
  
  
• Harbor Freight wrench set
  
  
• Harbor Freight torque wrench
  
  
• 20'x20' blue tarp
  
  
  

Helonix Chair Zero is really nice if you have an extra 100 bucks rattling about in your pocket. Or just use a rock or a log. If you get one, be sure to get the footprint for it if you are camping on loose soil.

You also should bring a small trowel for when nature calls.

You should definitely get a folding shovel!

Okay here are my finalists. Thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/Jingrong-Multitool-Backpacking-Adventure-Entrenching/dp/B07M6X4TC6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IDB75SXVZ2QX&keywords=tactical+shovel&qid=1559105525&refinements=p_72%3A2661618011&rnid=2661617011&s=gateway&sprefix=tactical+shovel%2Caps%2C158&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Multitool-Backpacking-Entrenching-Emergency/dp/B01HM80KN4/ref=sr_1_13?crid=2IDB75SXVZ2QX&keywords=tactical+shovel&qid=1559105525&refinements=p_72%3A2661618011&rnid=2661617011&s=gateway&sprefix=tactical+shovel%2Caps%2C158&sr=8-13

https://www.amazon.com/Tyger-TG-SV8U3217-Multifunction-Off-Roading-Survivalist/dp/B07HS59P6B/ref=sr_1_21?crid=2IDB75SXVZ2QX&keywords=tactical+shovel&qid=1559105525&refinements=p_72%3A2661618011&rnid=2661617011&s=gateway&sprefix=tactical+shovel%2Caps%2C158&sr=8-21

https://www.amazon.com/BACOENG-Tactical-Folding-Manganese-Tungsten/dp/B07G2GFZ3T/ref=sr_1_31?crid=2IDB75SXVZ2QX&keywords=tactical+shovel&qid=1559105525&refinements=p_72%3A2661618011&rnid=2661617011&s=gateway&sprefix=tactical+shovel%2Caps%2C158&sr=8-31

Entrenching shovel

not bad, but it isn't gonna really help you with many things like field skinning game...and clumsy for many other things.

An e-tool is too bulky/heavy for backpacking, for that get something like this and for car camping just take a regular shovel if you need it for some reason (I carry one as I drive off-road to get to camp).

Yeah the gerber e tool is EXTREMELY overpriced. This one is only $16

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0038A05X6/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_1?colid=25PKQCCBPVIPQ&coliid=I2IBQMX73C7NT9&vs=1

-lockin'

I carry a thin cable lock at all times, just enough to prevent a grab-and-dash. It also secures my panniers to my frame.

-washin'

I am a big ol' sweaty sweatball, and so I have real trouble going a day without proper cleaning. Unless I know there's a bathable lake or river, I have to take a room or equipped camp-site.

-poopin'

Yep, carry TP everywhere. Also, be a bro and carry a camp trowel - like [this aluminum jobbie] (http://www.amazon.com/TentLab-Spades-Trowel-Assort-DOS-FCM25/dp/B00UTK5HJ0/ref=lp_3400921_1_11?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1452468473&sr=1-11) or [this plastic doodah] (http://www.amazon.com/Coghlans-8408-Backpackers-Trowel/dp/B000BS05Z6/ref=lp_3400921_1_4?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1452468473&sr=1-4)

The manliest thing I have is probably the survival shovel with pick. Mostly because you use it to shit in the woods which I'm pretty sure is the epitome of manliness when you can't grow a beard.

On Amazon for $80.

e-tool

https://www.amazon.com/SOG-Entrenching-Tool-F08-N-Folding/dp/B0038A05X6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498002367&sr=8-1&keywords=e-tool

swiss army knives are sooo 1900s, Gerber multi-tools are better, the tools lock.

Also, military entrenching tools are designed to be used as knives, so you can cut rope, and they are heavy enough to be used as a hammer. I've used them as a small hatchet as well.(cutting up small bits of kindling for a fire).

Chinese Military Shovel I have yet to get one but i want one. Google a video of it, knife, saw, wire snip, hammer,

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004SOPJG4/

http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

I mentioned a folding shovel. I was planning to use the Mylar blankets as mini tarps, but I really don't see the use of a tarp in my situation. As for communication I have a red cross radio, a cell phone, a whistle, and I'm planning on getting a personal locator beacon. I was planning on using a Datexx crank generator, in addition to the Mophie powerstaion XL, but I'm thinking of getting a radio that has a built in solar panel/crank generator.

Nay. Go german.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PUMDV4K/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A36ZAOEPX7I0P8&psc=1

It is. Coghlan's https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BS05Z6/

Now with Prime shipping!

About $80 on Amazon

Turns out its Chinese military https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhqxkI3xDYY

edit: http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

I have a Glock shovel

There you go

Here it is, get your secret Santa on $80 on Amazon

Here you go

And for some cheaper options

They aren't cheap. $75 on Amazon and eBay. Think I'll stick to my GI e tool.

This appears to be the one. http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

Amazon has them. You can probably find them cheaper elsewhere though. These have been around for a while.

I know your comment is in jest, but the American one actually you use as a sit down toilet. It has a hole to poop through while sitting down and doing everything else except opening cans. Or pulling nails. Or hammering. But you can poop. And fold it into a small backpack size.

http://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-E-Tool-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4

http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

I might get one for innawoods oper8ing

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Why not just get the real thing?

I use this. https://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-Issue-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1540064650&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=military+shovel&dpPl=1&dpID=418pyw8uw1L&ref=plSrch

Why not just get one of these and stuff it under a seat or something?

Go Chinese. Only time I'll ever say those words and mean it.

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Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-E-Tool-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4

I'm like 3 miles away.

And I could use the money for my house fund. That would be very helpful for refurbishing all these 1920s houses I'm looking at...

Unfortunately the only thing I have in my car that can put you out of your misery is this.

You game?

I prefer the 78 (plain back) aesthetically, but the 81 (saw back) is still a fine knife.

The saw does actually work for its intended purpose: it is a "root saw" for use in digging battle trenches. I have (peacefully) sawed roots with it.

It's Very unlikely that Glock, of all companies, would do something just for looks…("weird" colors notwithstanding)

Glock also makes an entrenching tool:

Glock Entrenching Tool with Saw and Pouch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KOOUOS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nCqTBbJATCHWP

Chinese Military Shovel Emergency Tools WJQ-308 Ver 2012 (Amazon)

When you said tactical shovel my first thought was the good ol' E-Tool. That thing is tough to open sometimes but I don't think I've ever seen someone say that theirs broke. But it doesn't fall into

>plenty of tools and is longer than 3 feet or 91.44 cm I'm tall and short shovels are awkward

It's the only one I've ever used so I can't offer any other first hand suggestion :(

I've actually been thinking that my truck needs a shovel... Hmm, wonder if I can find a way to get my hands on one o' them chinese supersholvels

e: oh hey

Fuck that's a lot for a shovel though. I'd have to spend on shipping too...

e2: No shipping here :D

Do you mean for getting snow off the car? Or if you get stuck? If the latter, an e-tool is for you!

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-Issue-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4

I mean, I guess it'll get snow off your car if you don't care about your paint...

Edit... I just now saw the part about the walking path. Well shoot, get an e-tool anyways!

>Then you provide a list of things that are not in your pack that would be more useful than the gun.

But those things I listed are in my pack, or strapped to it. Bear Canister, trauma/first aid kit, shovel, and a sleeping bag in a trash bag in a waterproof stuff sack mounted on the outside of my pack.

>and your pack isn't full... so why not add those things?

But my pack is full. It's a nice balance of mass and volume. I add what I need based on Probability. I carry a rattlesnake bite kit if I'm going into areas with rattlesnakes, but if I'm heading up to an alpine lake, then the snakebite kit stays and extra layers / emergency blankets are added. It's all about the probability of what you will face. Twenty-five years ago, when hiking in north Alabama, I carried a .357 because of the freaking crazies that inhabit the Sand Mountain area. Had to pull it once, too when I was threatened by a drunk.

>Lastly, we'll probably have to just accept that we have different definitions for "lightweight"... a loaded LC9 weighs as much as my shelter. It would be the heaviest piece of gear in my entire pack.

That's an understatement. I enjoy carting around 40#. Any more than that becomes a problem for my ankles.