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Hi. Yes. I am very sorry your father has these allergies, but... be glad he got patch tested and knows the specific chemical substances he needs to avoid. Many people don't bother. Feel free to pm me at any time. Several of his allergies are going to be difficult to avoid. Ex. isothiazolinones are pretty much in all commercial cleaners and paints and are airborne. So he may get "mystery" reactions that are really just reactions from MCI/MI (abbreviation for isothiazolinones) in the store he was just in.

Just have his medications compounded. Yes, it's an added expense, but it's medically necessary.

Glycol is... insidious. Especially in food. You can pretty much count on it being in every processed food unless it says certified organic. It does not need to be listed either. It can hide in "natural ingredients" or not hide and all and just not be listed. It's in most dairy products like milk and ice cream, for example. And don't get me started on medications. Is he having a problem with polyester? It's a derivative of PEG (polyethylene glycol). Don't drink any beverage at all unless it's certified organic except for water. Unless you call the company/email the company to confirm just assume it's in the juice/soda/coffee. There are very very few juices/drinks that don't have it. Ground coffee. Flavored coffee... it's just in there. Oh, and especially any breads/bread products/cookies/baked goods. Hey! Good news though: Panera is a propylene glycol free company with their foods(you need to double check on their bottled juices though, I can't vouch for that).

BoP... all right. Listen. Focus on avoiding the things he touches for now, but BoP chemicals are in foods (naturally as well as in benzoate preservatives). So... vegetables/fruits may be tricky. If you find he's definitely avoiding things and not clearing up he may want to peek at the BoP foods. They are complicated.

Reddit is not the forum for learning about these allergies... although I'm happy to answer any questions. The place to do that is to join the "general ACD (allergic contact dermatitis) board" on FB, and the individual allergy boards. I'll list the ones that involve him.

Here is the main/general board: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1567785756868893/

Glycol allergy:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/527750807305657/
PG allergy:https://www.facebook.com/groups/240074313186664/

BoP allergy: https://www.facebook.com/groups/284324351616200/

Colophony (mixed in with the "shoe group" because it's most often seen there): https://www.facebook.com/groups/1194818737239955/
And a second: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1194818737239955/

There are a lot of methylisothiazolinone groups because it's a *ty chemical. Feel free to use the search bar and join whichever you want, or all of them. It just sucks.

Also... listen... this stuff becomes all very complicated. I'm a well-educated person with good research skills (librarian) and it took me the better part of a year to really get a handle on multiple multiple allergies like this. Be prepared. It is a life changing diagnosis.

I recommend "zero tolerance" for conventional products. If he lives with anyone they should also adopt his product use. This means do not clean anything (dishes, laundry, face, body, hair, house) with something normal you'd buy at the store. There is absolutely no way with his list of allergies you'll be able to find anything safe for him. MAYBE he can find something with formaldehyde as the preservative and fragrance free... but he's obviously prone to collecting allergies and that is NOT one he wants to add to his lineup.

This is a safe soap. Three ingredients. Olive oil, salt, water. My family and I use it for ALL of our cleansing needs. Face/body/hair. https://www.amazon.com/Kiss-My-Face-Soap-Olive/dp/B002LMQQ1C/ref=sr_1_6_s_it?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1523116505&sr=1-6&keywords=kiss+my+face+olive Also available at Whole Foods. ONLY the olive bar. He doesn't want to use the lavender one with BoP allergies. Or any botanical/flower. Or any fragrance (MCI/MI is hidden in fragrance also).

How does he feel about beards? My husband has one and he doesn't need shaving lotion. Which is good. Because I don't know what he'd do.

This is a safe dishwasher detergent: https://www.amazon.com/Ecover-Automatic-Dishwasher-Tablets-Fragrance-Free/dp/B0080L99GC/ref=sr_1_3_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1523116601&sr=1-3&keywords=ecos%2Bdishwasher%2Bdetergent&th=1 It's available at Whole Foods in non-tablet, just powder form.

This is a safe dish detergent (also good for hand washing): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J5HGA9Y/ref=sxr_rr_xsim_1_s_it?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3513574162&pd_rd_wg=bxfmc&pf_rd_r=0RTH0GV2S8CX8SV48A9R&pf_rd_s=desktop-rhs-carousels&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B00J5HGA9Y&pd_rd_w=GSztQ&pf_rd_i=ecos+dishwasher+detergent&pd_rd_r=a350294f-1341-4bb1-9936-a0a5c5ccabe7&ie=UTF8&qid=1523116601&sr=1 NOT available at Whole Foods

For laundry: https://www.amazon.com/Mollys-Suds-Original-Laundry-Sensitive/dp/B00F8LE2TQ/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1523116893&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=mollys+suds&psc=1&smid=A1FUPZWT4RJSOD

Other than putting dilute white vinegar in water, using baking soda to scrub, and possibly hydrogen peroxide, this is the only* safe cleaning product. It looks complicated and expensive. It's not. It also works fabulously. Comes out to be waaaay less a year than I was spending on conventional cleaners. It's all my cleaning lady uses. https://www.amazon.com/Force-Nature-Non-Toxic-All-Purpose-Deodorizer/dp/B071HLCLL9/ref=sr_1_2_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1523116665&sr=1-2&keywords=force+of+nature The company's website has coupons if you buy direct from them.

Does he need a moisturizing product? He should use medical grade white petrolatum or 100% emu oil from a reputable vendor (others can cut it in with other oils that aren't safe for him--he shouldn't use plant based oils because BoP). https://www.amazon.com/100-Montana-Emu-Ranch-Liquid/dp/B0026X5KCW/ref=sr_1_4_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1523116770&sr=1-4&keywords=emu+ranch

Edited for: in case it isn't clear "natural" "organic" (unless certified** organic) "hypoallergenic" etc. do not mean anything. Do not think the 7th generation or Honest Company items you see in Whole Foods or god forbid Mrs. Meyers (methylisothiazolinone preservative and of course his BoP allergy would be a problem) or anything like that is actually safe. Remember. They just want to sell their products to people who don't know any better. You could bottle 100% formaldehyde or 100% propylene glycol and label it "all natural hypoallergenic" and it would be fine.

Check the FAQ like the sidebar says. But I've got nothing pressing at the moment so here:

I'm answering your last question first. The Lyman manual is definitely a good place to start. And you should purchase that first and read it before you purchase anything else. It will answer most of your questions and keep you safe. It is also recommended to get other brand manuals as well, such as Lee or Hornady. Every manual is different and will give you a broader base to start from.

Press: I'm a single stage guy so I can't help with the press. You will need caliber specific dies. All brands work, Lee is the cheapest, RCBS is kinda the standard, Dillon a step above RCBS, Forster is generally regarded as the best. If you use carbide dies you don't really need to lube pistol brass. And if you do lube, its personal preference. I use a 10:1 alcohol lanolin mix that I spray on the brass inside a gallon ziplock, then shake around a bit.

Tumbler: I use the HF dual drum with a modded drum. It works fine for me as I do small batches of rifle brass. You should probably look at the FA Tumbler or something larger. It comes with media and a small packet of their detergent. Most people have great results with dish soap and a pinch of lemishine. And you really shouldn't need a primer pocket cleaner if you wet tumble.

Bullets: Those bullets should work well. And its mostly personal preference and what shoots well out of your specific firearm.

Powder: Powder is something you either buy in person or large bulk orders. The hazmat fee is a killer unless you are ordering the max weight per order, which is normally about 50 pounds. And unless you are dead set on a certain powder, most people use what they can find locally. The Field and Stream should have powder, I've never been to a Walmart that sells smokeless powder. And read your manual to know it that powder has load data for what you are loading.

Primers: Primers for the most part are personal preference, they don't affect loads until you get into long range precision rifle. And see the powder above about hazmat fees.

Calipers: Those calipers will work.

Chronograph: You really don't need a chrono for what you'll be doing, at least initially.

Have fun and stay safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole that is reloading.

I think this is a better deal kitchen soap wise: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001FA1NV4/. Instead of 12oz for 7 dollars, its 6 25oz bottles for 20 bucks. 3 times the money, but 12.5 times the soap. Also, for dishwasher detergent, this is a better deal: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C72BXZK/. Instead of 20 count for 7$, it's 110 count for 20$.

Some stuff it just makes sense to try and get in bulk, because you get so, so, so much more.

Also, re milk. You don't have to get powdered milk. You also have the option to get UHT milk. UHT milk is milk that's been cooked at a high enough temperature that it becomes shelf stable. Just search for UHT milk and you'll find a tonne of brands and choices. Different fat percentages, sizes and so on. You can get a large carton, or they also make packs with a bunch of small cartons, like this one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002FX2IOQ/. I prefer that, because I don't use milk very often, so opening a small container each time works perfectly for me. You do however, have to stick the container in the fridge once you've opened it.

Also, if you have a tea strainer (or even if you don't, they're only a few bucks and worth it!), try and get loose leaf tea. You can get a lb of tea for around 10 bucks easy, and you can easily make a few hundred cups of tea. To make strong black tea, I use 4 grams of tea for every pot, and each pot gets me about 4 cups. A lb of tea is 453g, so...that works out really well. Even if you make individual cups instead of pots and use a couple grams per cup, you can easily get 200 cups out of a lb box. There's just no beating that with bags, even if you resuse them.

Here's 1lb of a green tea for 10 bucks: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000SATIFA. And here's 1lb of Earl Grey for 8 bucks: http://www.amazon.com/Davidsons-Tea-Bulk-Earl-16-Ounce/

Thanks OP! I'd already created list and was about to post to food_pantry when I saw your post and you'd found cheaper options for a few things and that seriously rocks.

Yeah, you want to make sure you get the dishwasher tabs and not use liquid dish soap that you use to clean dishes in the sink. Using dish soap, instead of something made specifically for dishwashers will cause the soap to create massive suds, which will overflow and make a giant mess.


There are also dishwasher gels and powder, powder is the cheapest but being a powder is generally seen as much less convenient, and if you get water in the box then gg. Gels are more popular than powder, less popular than the tabs.


Generally, I've always cleaned food debris or soaked food caked on dishes in the sink before putting them in the dishwasher. There are also certain items that are better to be hand-washed.

I hate to be a corporate shill, but the products these guys produce is amazing.

I use the hypoallergenic laundry soap (the one that comes in a cardboard bottle) and their dishwasher soap and they both work like a charm, and they aren’t that much more expensive than alternatives that are more harmful for the planet.

Also the dishwasher soap works like a charm and it gets anything off dishes 99% of the time, even if it’s the most caked on thing in the universe.

If he’s able to stand while vomiting I have advice (I know it sounds weird and icky but go with me)

I get migraines. I also throw up. If I don’t take medicine, I start throwing up as soon as I awaken (TBI when I was 12). I also had some HG - like symptoms and vomited all during my pregnancy, hospitalized for it thrice. So I know the art of puking.

Toilets are the worst place to puke. They are rarely pristine and the residual smell or even idea of having your face where bottoms go can make it last longer. The only good thing is it’s dark and you can lay on the carpet in between bouts.

Pans and bowls are good if you have someone willing to dump and wash while you are in a comfortable place. Metal tends to have a loud ring to it that can make the migraine worse, and the smell can become associated with the action, triggering it where you may be able to control it. Glass or ceramic is best.

My favorite method? Kitchen sink. You have a clean, large place that doesn’t smell like ass. Your garbage disposal is right there. You can lean on the counters, they are a good height to support your weight. After, a swish of lemon bleach, some orange peels, or my favorites, Plinks will take care of odor.

Really, why do people stick their faces in toilets to throw up? Have they never had it “coming out both ends?” That happens enough and you start throwing up a little every time you get down to clean the toilet. Nausea and vomiting are very strongly linked to those unconscious actions since aversion keeps us from getting poisoned and dying, it’s part of an evolved response.

Anyway ignore me I’m sick and dr gave me cough syrup so tonight is fun weeeeeeeeee

Selling dangerous chemicals that appeal to small children can lead to problems. Even the best parents aren’t perfect. Even a responsible caring parent might turn their back for a critical few moments.

This brand of detergent pods looks and smells delicious. They make me hungry every time I do the dishes.

The 3lb would work, but if you can get a deal on the 6lb one, I'd get it. I have the 6lb one(dual drum) and if I remember correctly, I do 50 cases of .308 or 7.62x54r cases per drum, each works out to be about 1lb of brass. For 9mm and 45acp, I weigh out a pound on a kitchen scale.

I do 1lb brass, 1lb stainless steel pins, 1 lb water, a squirt of laundry soap, and a 9mm case worth of lemishine.

I deprime before cleaning with a Lee depriming die.

I tumble for 30 min to an hour, then separate from the pins, rinse, and let dry.

I also load on a single stage about once a month, and it works great for me.

If you have any questions, you can PM me.

I have heard good things about Lemi Shine Dishwasher Additive. Here is a description from the Sears Parts Direct website. "Lemi Shine dishwasher additive (part number WX10X10019) is a concentrated additive that removes hard water buildup. Lemi Shine dishwasher additive WX10X10019 breaks up mineral deposits including calcium, lime and iron. Follow the instructions on the label when using this product." Maybe that would help clean out the internal parts on your dishwasher and make for cleaner dishes. Amazon also sells the Lemi Shine dishwasher additive and it's only around $ 8.79. There are 648 reviews for the Lemi Shine so you could read a few of them and see what people have to say about it.

I use Natural Choices Oxy Prime for my laundry and it's wonderful, and I know they have a dishwasher detergent. Though I haven't used it, since the laundry detergent is so good I imagine this would be as well.

Edit: I just saw that you want something biodegradable, and I'm not sure if this is. You could probably contact them and ask though.

Like everyone else has said.... scale. That happens in my kettles too, because my city has very hard water, and I don't have a water softener. I use a product called LemiShine once a month to remove stuff like that. Just add it to boiling water in the pot and scrub some. It's just citric acid, and it helps a lot.

Yeah, we use one of the Finish Quantums. Works fine. Husband is always taken aback at how much crud I leave on the plates and I'm like, have you noticed the plates being dirty? 'Cause I always leave this much food on the plates.

It's annoyingly difficult to tell the Finish products apart on the Internets. We use the one that isn't wrapped and looks like stuff in a gel brick, not a powder brick. I think it's this one but I would have to check to be sure.

Agreed. I hardly find Amazon Prime in Canada worth it. Shipping is hardly 2 days even I live in Montreal, and the prices are pretty bad for groceries as well...

Some random examples:

Dishwasher detergent, $7.97 vs $5.99. And Maxi has this detergent on sale quite often at $4.59, for the same size.

Chips Ahoy, $13.96 for 4 /$3.49 vs $1.88 at Shopper's Drug Mart

Alright, here's what I've decided on the issue. My dishwasher packets look like this and so should all the rest of them quite frankly. It probably would prevent a lot of kids from thinking they are candy - and do we really need a bunch of artificial colors in our dishwasher packets?

For those who do not want to use TSP as an additive, LemiShine is a very effective booster. I also use it on glass shower doors, hose fittings, anything with hard water buildup. My favorite use is to remove the "haze" from stainless steel cookware that forms after cooking certain foods - oddly both beans and spinach leave the residue, but LemiShine removes it in minutes.

Dishwasher Detergent (Double D... ooooo yeah!) on my Needs for Team CMAZ WL.

Thank you for the contest!! <3

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Platinum-ActionPacs-Dishwasher-Detergent/dp/B01NGTV4J5/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1504532856&sr=8-1&keywords=dishwasher+detergents

https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Powerball-Dishwasher-Detergent-Packaging/dp/B00GLXKDPC/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1504532875&sr=8-2&keywords=dishwasher

Like those.

Add a bit of non-ionic surfactant to the tank (like a 5 or 10 mL of JetDry per gallon of mix) to help it coat everything/not "bead up" or roll off leaves.

https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Jet-Dry-Turbo-Dishwasher-Drying/dp/B004S0BUZ2

The Pet and Household deals no longer fit in the main post, even after editing out the prices, so here they are if you're looking for them:


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Friskies Canned Cat Food - $14 for (24) cans

Meow Mix Dry Cat Food - $12 for (14) lbs.

Precious Cat Litter - $18 for 40 lbs

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Iams Adult Mini Chunks - $6 for (3) lbs

Wysong Adult Dry - $8 for (5) lbs

Kibbles 'n Bits Small Breed - $11 for (16) lbs

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Dropps Laundry Detergent Pacs - $16 for 80 loads

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Snuggle Dryer Sheets - $8 for (120) sheets

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Glad Kitchen Trash Bags - $11 for (80) bags
Clip 10% off coupon to get this deal.

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Cascade Dish Detergent Packs - $11 for 48 packs

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Angel Soft Toilet Tissue - $18 for (40) double rolls

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Nivea 3-in-1 Body Wash - $11 for 3 bottles

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Ivory Aloe Soap - $4 for (3) bars

yeah, it's jet-dry finish, make sure it says 'turbo dry', I don't know why, but most stores don't carry it

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https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Jet-Dry-Turbo-Drying-Agent/dp/B000V706NI

when i lived in a place with hard water all of my glasses would come out like this from the dishwasher, the only product that i found to fix it was called Lemishine.

it’s a additive to your dishwasher detergent,

Lemi Shine Detergent Booster, 12 oz. (2 pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZYRV7R4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_KwIBCbCWFP8VJ

You could try the product Plink. It's basically a little degradable ball filled with scented cleanser. You run a light stream of water into the disposal and drop the ball into the drain and give it ten or fifteen seconds to break apart and coat the inside of the disposal and you're all done. The scent is fairly strong immediately after you use it and you can smell it while you're still at the sink, but after that it fades. I'm not sure it would be enough to clean/mask the odor that you've got, but you could try it. Maybe use a couple of little Plink balls instead of just one.

The link above goes to Amazon, but I usually find them in drugstores and grocery stores. In grocery stores they're usually down where the dishwashing soap is and they're often not on the shelf but hanging on a little display.

Don't know about Affresh.

Dishwasher Magic cleans out the lines, as well as the interior. The food waste that comes off the dishes can build up in these lines, along with lime and other stuff. It's like having clogged arteries.

Before I used it, my old dishwasher would leave a gritty residue on the dishes, and would never fully clean them.

https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Brand-Solimo-Dishwasher-Detergent/dp/B07FKKBGSW/ref=sxin_0_ac_m_rm?ac_md=0-0-ZGlzaHdhc2hlciBwb2Rz-ac_d_rm&keywords=dishwasher+pods&pd_rd_i=B07FKKBGSW&pd_rd_r=fbd7bc07-329b-4d32-b14c-081fae55410b&pd_rd_w=WAEdJ&pd_rd_wg=PpMpK&pf_rd_p=d1a6ea92-24ed-409e-8e33-97dc5a8de815&pf_rd_r=DAJ7NBKDXX7BRY729Q3J&qid=1567120240&s=gateway&sprefix=dishwasher+

12 dollars for 85 of dissolving pucks

Lemi Shine products

You don't have to use them all. I used to just use the rinse aid, but this shows what they offer. You can probably get most of them at your local grocery store/Walmart etc..

You don't need that expeensive gun specific crap.

Get some of this and some Dawn dish soap.

https://www.amazon.com/Lemi-Shine-Dishwater-Detergent-Concentrated/dp/B004YWJ3S0/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_121_bs_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KFP767SF2BMYTDNV7HZK