(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best recording signal effects processors

There are tons of outboard fx units out there -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw5RtdIEzz4



You could go with a small desk mixer with built in FX, but some may not have all the ones you're looking for -

(just an example)

• https://www.amazon.com/Mackie-PROFX4V2-4-Channel-Compact-Effects/dp/B00VUU702A/
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-MG10XU-10-Input-Stereo-Effects/dp/B00IBIVL42/
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-1202FX-BEHRINGER-XENYX/dp/B000J5Y214/
  
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  or a dedicated multi-FX processor
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-Virtualizer-FX2000-High-Performance-Multi-Engine/dp/B003EZXMS0
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/TC-Electronic-Reverb-Effects-Processor/dp/B001R5G70O
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/TC-Electronic-M100-ELECTRONIC/dp/B0731N1HY3
  
  
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  or a dedicated vocal fx unit (some of these are made for live performance, hence the foot switches)
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Roland-VT-4-Voice-Transformer/dp/B07JKLMDGX/
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Helicon-Voice-Vocal-Effects-Processor/dp/B00GM0NX3S/
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Eventide-H9-Core-Harmonizer-Pedal/dp/B01CY237P6/
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/TC-Helicon-Effects-Processor-Burgundy-996369005/dp/B074TRXB21/
  
  
  There's a plethora of them... just hunt around on sweetwater, musicansfriend, or BHphoto to see some ideas.
  
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  The Roland is pretty cool , because it lets you adjust things on the fly easier -
  
  (this is like what the Beastie Boys used for "Intergalactic")
  
  Roland VT-3
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeHHV1LPfOo (@1:02)
  
  Roland VT-4 demos
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw5RtdIEzz4
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5kkYemu-gs
  
  
  

If anyone is interested, like myself, you can buy it here.

I'll probably get one in the coming weeks/month(s). I'll let you guys know how I like it if I do.

Make sure you get a limiter before your mixer so the sound guy can't accidentally blast your ears and gear with a super loud monitor signal. You have no control over his signal if it gets too loud other than to pull the in-ears out. Your gear is still getting clipped big time and you can't hear.

something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/rolls-CL151-Comp-Limiter-Gate/dp/B0002MSI7S/

I guess I was a little too optimistic with my price range - Pretty much any stereo compressor would do the trick, and you may be able to find some used in your area at a retailer.
Online, you could get this guy for about $120 used, or this one new for $129.

Again, sorry about that - I thought they were cheaper by now.

I don't have first-hand experience with any of these types of systems, but I think what you're probably looking for is an amp/tactile transducer system that can be integrated into your current system and affixed to your chair. Something like this.

Not on a guitar but there are foot pedals that can do the same thing. I personally have this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/DigiTech-Whammy-DT-Effects-Pedal/dp/B0052QOU08/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1459161464&sr=8-1&keywords=whammy+DT

It changes the sound coming out of speakers to reflect different tunings (though the guitar stays in whatever tuning it started in).

Recommend using headphones.

No. Once its in the cable, the signals don't know how to merge properly. You wouldn't hear each side clearly, you'd just hear a loud, hellish screeching, and probably blow out your headphones, if not short out more things.

You'd need an actual channel merger. Something like this, which is just an example I found on Amazon. You probably don't need one that's a full on amplifier as well, but 'twas the first thing of the right type to come up. I'm sure there's much cheaper ones if you looked around.

Most people doing this are using looper pedals and vocal harmonizers like https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076JSGJ4Z/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Looper and generates harmonies based on the chords you play.

Sucks that it has come to this but there you are.

You would need a crossover in the middle to feed the highs to the monitor's amps and the lows to the sub's amp

https://www.amazon.com/rolls-SX45-Tiny-Stereo-Crossover/dp/B00102VWJK/

If you want to keep it balanced, use a "pro" audio crossover:

https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-CX2310-BEHRINGER-SUPER-X-PRO/dp/B0002Z82LM/

or a "pro" equalizer with subwoofer outputs -

https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-FBQ1502HD-BEHRINGER-ULTRAGRAPH-PRO/dp/B013JLZMZE

(I use "pro" in quotes, because Behringer is the cheapest bottom of the barrel "pro" company. Generally used by DJs or small mobile / live PA scenarios and not really in high-end recording studio environments). But they are perfectly fine to use. I've built a few budget systems with their components with no issues whatsoever.

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Alternatively, pick up a proper studio monitor sub - they usually include an active crossover inside the sub, allowing you to run your full range signal directly into the sub (unbalanced or balanced), where it splits the lows to the sub's internal amp and sends a highpass back out to the mains. (Many have a bypass foot switch so you can click off the sub and run the mains full range again when you want.) - but you generally won't find these under $400.

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EDIT - Someone found one!

https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=115&cp_id=11504&cs_id=1150401&p_id=605999&seq=1&format=2

This is pretty far down, but I've done a lot of hi-fi, and some pro-sound stuff, and what I've used in the past is a feedback destroyer It's basically an automatic self-adjusting parametric equalizer.

Because he wants to control it, I'd suggest a dedicated effects processor with a remote or a pedal type device.

I don't know anything about this unit, but it has XLR in and out:

http://www.amazon.com/Digitech-Vocalist-Harmony-Correction-Guitarists/dp/B0035HIL0G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&keywords=pitch+change+pedal

The term to google is "Autotune Rackmount Vocal Producer."

Here is one on Amazon for $350.

There's probably a less expensive way to do it in software but this is the hardware she uses

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https://www.amazon.com/Roland-VT-4-Voice-Transformer/dp/B07JKLMDGX/

It's one pedal. It's the TC-Helicon Voicelive 3 Extreme. I have the same one.

http://www.amazon.com/DigiTech-Whammydtv-01-Guitar-Effects-Pedal/dp/B0052QOU08

Tascam TA1VP Vocal Producer Processor With Antares Autotune https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004OA6JU2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_q77FAbM6AK34E

What is the difference between the Behringer Shark DSP110 and the BEHRINGER SHARK FBQ100? I get that they're both feedback suppressors, but they seem quite similar to me and at the same price point.

Behringer Shark comes to mind.
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-FBQ100-BEHRINGER-SHARK/dp/B0051TZBTU

https://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Singles-VoiceTone-Effects-Processor/dp/B00504BLLS

This is the exact model Dan uses. https://www.amazon.com/TC-Electronics-VoiceTone-C1-Processor/dp/B004GTED7C/ref=pd_rhf_gw_p_img_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Y6D29P16MQAGAMXS1FJ3

I would think you need to have an effect pedal with two input and output paths to be able to pass through it twice, right? For example I have a Berhinger fx600 that features this. You could run the first pass through in/out A and route the effected signal back through in/out B for a second pass, I would imagine.

There are also feedback loopers, but that may be a bit extreme if I understand your intentions correctly.

Try using this.

There are plenty of real time vocal effect products out there. Pitch shift, pitch correction ect. Im not saying Adele uses those features exactly, but if you think she has a mic that is directly wired to a speaker, you may be uninformed.

Edit, heres a live vocal effects processor..

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0035HIL0G/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?qid=1465606360&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=digitech+vocal+effects+pedal&dpPl=1&dpID=51nuyI%2BRSEL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/TC-Electronics-VoiceTone-C1-Processor/dp/B004GTED7C/ref=pd_rhf_gw_p_img_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Y6D29P16MQAGAMXS1FJ3

Did we ever confirm that this is the Vocoder Dan has been using?

No problem.

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I've done quite a bit home studio recording and I can tell you that any mixer that has a decent compressor / noise gate built in is going to be in the hundreds of dollars. You're better off getting something that's stand alone like the product below in addition to the mixer.


https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-MDX2600-Reference-Class-2-Channel-Compressor/dp/B0002E4ZKU

This works for almost all tunings. Drop d will still need to tune string.

https://www.amazon.com/DigiTech-Whammydtv-01-Guitar-Effects-Pedal/dp/B0052QOU08

> you're assuming it's an autotuner when it's not.

Yes, it is.

From amazon: http://www.amazon.com/TC-Helicon-VoiceTone-Correct/dp/B000TGQEBO

"Auto chromatic pitch correction requires no key or scale setting, in fact, the only correction controls are amount and on/off"

From what I read in the description and reviews cheaper versions from the same brand like this one can do the same, just without the fancy touch screen and with a few options missing.

You can add an audio compressor
https://www.amazon.com/ART-USED004000-SCL2-Compressor/dp/B00LLIGOH8/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1483461025&sr=8-12&keywords=audio+compressor+limiter
to your system for about 150 bucks that will keep ANY input within a range that you select.
Commercials are ALWAYS louder that the show, blame Madison Avenue.

The biggest issue you will have is video latency/delay. The Elgato Game Capture HD60 will have a few seconds of delay on both the video and audio before it's sown in your streaming software.

If you want to control the audio from the PS4 and Xbox One with the mixer, you will need to get something to delay the audio to match it up or else the audio will be played in real time and the video show up later on the stream.

You will need some expensive equipment to delay the audio in real time (it can be done easily in software but you need either another computer to do it or bypass the mixer completely). Considering the audio will be most likely stereo, you will need two audio delay boxes. The only one I can think of on top of my head that's not "too expensive" is the Behringer Shark FBQ100 but you will need two. They can delay the audio to up to 2.5 seconds (WHICH MAY NOT BE ENOUGH FOR THE ELGATO!)

How do you exactly get the audio from the Xbox and PS4? With a digital to analog converter. Use the optical out on the consoles and RCA to jacks from it and into the mixer.

You ask what headset you should buy. If you plan on using the mixer with a gaming headset you have to look elsewhere because that will not work. You can use a gaming headset with audio only via the headphone out on the mixer with but you need a proper microphone to use with the mixer.

Is this all worth doing with your current setup? Absolutely not. The first thing you need to do is replace your capture card with something that's low latency.

The best capture card you can get for this today is the Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI. It's a tad expensive but worth every penny. A step down would be the Black Magic Intensity Pro (which I currently use and own with audio going into my Behringer 802USB mixer). The other "gaming" capture card brands has some low latency cards as well but I would not recommend them.

Once you have a low latency capture card you can start plugging your consoles audio into it.