(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best audio receivers

Tough to do on that type of budget. You're pretty much not going to be able to get a modern receiver AND an amplifier AND a sub for that. I'd definitely spend more on the speakers and sub than the receiver.

I'd do something like this:

Subwoofer: The PSW10, about 100 on Amazon, or the Bic 10 inch sub, about 125-150. These are not great subs, but frankly, you can't afford an Epik, Hsu, etc. IF you have time, go hunt down the Velodyne Ct 100. I think that remains an excellent sub, and if you can get one for 200 or so, it's a steal. If there is one area where you can easily make a bad decision, it's subs. Most subs under 400-500 dollars are varying degrees of pretty equally bad, so you're better off getting better speakers, letting the sub try to handle the lowest end, and recognize that the difference between a 150 dollar sub and a 300 dollar sub is probably going to be minimal .. though bargain hunting for used subs is always an option (buying used subs given certain folks' propensity to abuse them is scarier than other speakers).

Fronts/Center: You really need to listen to make a final decision, but I settled on the Primus 362 and PC352 after extensive listening trips. I love these speakers. The 362 is essentially the same as the 363, but a bit cheaper. Do your homework, you'll find these speakers have phenomenal crossovers and drivers for the money. An incredible value. But, there are trade-offs when you're spending 200.00 a speaker (free shipping from Amazon) versus 600+. The cabinets are mediocre, and pretty large. Many people improve them through DIY projects. I find the resonance of the cabinets is only a problem at the highest volumes (and it is the only real problem I have with these speakers) but I seldom play them extremely loud. These three speakers are going to run you between 600-700, but I think you'd have to spend at least twice as much to obtain more than a marginal improvement. After testing many, many speakers, these were the best floorstanders with decent bass coverage I could find below 400ish each .. and they're quite a bit less than that. Speakers with decent bass can really help compensate/complement a mediocre subwoofer if you set the crossovers correctly.

Rears: Go cheap. Dayton B652s. Nice, efficient little speakers, very easy to drive, save some of that juice for the not so easy to drive fronts. I think they're a great value in speakerdom. I think you'd have to spend at least 100 a pair to get even slightly better speakers .. and I think you can spend that money better elsewhere. If you want nicer rears that maybe you can move to another system later on down the road, I'd hit up craigslist. You can find some quality vintage bookshelves that are 4-6 years old that someone will let go for maybe a quarter to half of their original price. Boston CS26s are pretty nice, and for some reason I seem to see those a lot for 40-60 bucks. I think the wharfedale diamond series 9.0 and 9.1 also make nice rears, and although I haven't heard them people say the Primus 152s are pretty nice on a tight budget (and would be timbre matched to the 362s). I think it's easy to blow tons of money on marginal bookshelf speakers, so do your homework. If you're going to go budget on a receiver, you should try to find efficient rear speakers to try to save some of that precious amplifier power for your front/center.

Receiver: at this point, you should have 1K to 1.2K left to spend on the receiver. You have a philosophical decision to make. First option: Get the absolute lowest model you can find with the decoding/connection functionality you need ... and which has pre-outs ... then get a nice amplifier ... I recommend the emotiva xpa 5. You can often find a budget receiver with pre-outs at goodwill. Here are some on Amazon with 5.1 functionality ... see if they have pre-outs.

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V367BL-Channel-Receiver-Black/dp/B003CP0K8C/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1318568134&sr=1-10

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004O0TRCO/sr=1-1/qid=1318568598/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1318568598&sr=1-1&seller=

Those models are going to be pretty low in wattage ... external amplification will become a priority. I warn you, external amplification is going to complicate your set-up and expand its footprint significantly in terms of weight and space. But, most people will tell you its better bang for your buck as new receivers/features are constantly coming down the pipe.

Second option: you can decide you want features now and don't want the headache of dealing with external amplification. I'm going that route at the moment, as I am getting old and lazy and don't have a lot of spare wiring/racking room at the moment. I wanted networking (I can no longer live without streaming files from my computer or using internet radio directly from receiver), 3d hdmi switching, good onscreen menus, and Audyssey (I love the sound modes and sound customization), and can live with marginally decent amplification. You can get a middle of the road Audyssey capable Denon or a year or an Onkyo and stay well within your budget. I have the Onkyo 808 and 3008 and I really like them. Try to snag an 808 for under 600 bucks ... it draws 7.5 amps, so it's no lightweight, it has networking, and the build quality seems very sturdy. Hell ... Amazon is offering 3008s every once in a while for under 1K (refurbished), and that's a fucking steal if you ask me.

**all of the above is predicated on you wanting a 5.1 system. Many people will tell you to get a 2.0 or 2.1 system and blow your wad on two great front speakers. I'm not bothering with that option since I'll trust you've decided you don't want that ... and if this is going to be significantly used for home theater, I agree with you.

If you just want a basic amp (which is all you really need for a pair of $30 Dayton bookshelfs) then consider this Lepai TA2020 for $25.

Honestly you'd be just as happy with this as you would that $220 stereo only Emotiva amp. Sure the Emotiva is a great amp for what it does, but if you just want something to power your speakers, just match starting speakers with a starter amp. As long as your TV has a variable stereo output then you'll still be able to control the volume with your remote. If you read the reviews a LOT of buyers of the Lepai amp get it specifically for use with those B652's and it's more than capable of driving them.

If you want something more complex and plan on potentially running surround sound, then look into a Budget Home Theater receiver. Your use of the word "current" when describing your living situation implies that it may at some point change, which means your needs may likely change. So if you want at least a little bit of future proofing then a HT Receiver is a good way to go if you're willing to spend $200.

The advantage of the HT Receiver approach is you can expand it later by getting two larger front speakers, a center channel speaker and a subwoofer and use the B652's as your surround speakers. Nothing goes to waste.

Now unfortunately if you plan on using the 3D features of that TV and want to run your sources through the receiver then you'll need a 3d capable receiver. I mean you could run all your sources through the TV and then run S/PDIF from the TV to the receiver, but that's somewhat pointless, you might as well stick with a stereo amp.

That said here's a couple 3D receivers to consider:

• Pioneer VSX-921K 7.1 3D receiver - I have the 1121k model and love mine. This one is two steps down and is last year's model (but strangely equivalent to the current 1122k) so it doesn't have airplay and is slightly lower wattage (110W), but that's fine. It's a good value right now. Comes with a iPhone/iPod dock cable connection and has a few other really nice features. This gets you a lot of bang for your buck because you're getting last year's receiver (and the new ones are barely an upgrade). You should be able to find it for around $200-220 shipped.
  
  
• Denon 1513 - this is the new model year Denon, their entry level 3D ready 5.1 receiver. There's a lot of Denon fans, they make some good receivers and their sound is supposedly nearly as good as Harman Kardon. It's MSRP is $250 but if you keep your eye out you can probably pick it up for less on a sale. Full discrete 110W power output. There is also this Denon 1312 for $188 (with $30 shipping though), but it's 3d capable, though it's last year's product line. I imagine this is essentially last year's 1513.
  
  
• Onkyo TX-SR313 - Entry level 5.1 3D ready receiver. This is the current product line, a good basic 65W receiver. Lowest price of the three, as you can see you can get it for under $200 now. Should be a fine receiver that you'll use for a good long while.
  
  As I've found, each receiver brand has their fans. Denon, Pioneer, Harman Kardon, Marantz, Onkyo. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages and cater to different market segments. The only one I'd say there is universally little love for is Sony, at least there's not many rabid Sony fans anymore. It's not that their products are truly awful, it's just they are not exceptional. My first receiver was a Sony DG720. It was cheap ($250 back in 2008) and worked fine, but that's it, it was just fine. My Pioneer is clearly better once properly setup, but the Sony was okay for its time and use.
  
  
  

Damn, This got a bit long and didn't really scratch the surface. Sorry.

Here's my setup:

Router: Linksys E3000 running dd-wrt firmware

Media Server/Nas: Re-purposed Dell Vostro 200, Celeron 420 1.6Ghz, 4Gb Ram, Win7 Pro, 6TB Storage (2TB+4TB), Shares are served with Windows SMB & haneWIN NFS Server.

House Has 3 TVs: Living Room, Bedroom, and Basement Office

Living Room: XBMC Running on a Foxconn nt-A3700, Win7, 4gb RAM, 500gb HDD. Connected via Wireless N. Bose Cinemate II Sound System (1080p HDMI, S/PDIF Coaxial)

Bedroom: Raspberry Pi running RASPBMC, Connected with Edimax EW-7811un Wireless Adapter. using NFS shares. (1080p HDMI, TV Speakers)

Basement/Home Office: An old self assembled gaming rig re-purposed as a dedicated HTPC. GeForce 9800GTx+, Sony STR-DH520 7.1 Audio System. (1080p HDMI, S/PDIF-TOSLINK)

Other Devices: WDTV Media Player non-XBMC. Would not reliably see windows SMB shares, but NFS worked well. Not in use.

Thoughts: If you're serious. At some point get a dedicated server PC of some sort. It doesn't need to be much in terms of hardware if all you intend to do is serve media files on your LAN. If you plan on converting the files as you serve them (Plex? not necessary with XBMC), then you'll need some processing power behind your server setup. Mine sits in a locked room with our surveillance DVR. No monitor, keyboard, or mouse. Ethernet plugged directly into the router for the full 1000 mbp/s.

The Foxconn nt-A3700 connected in the living room is a great little box. We bought it back in 2012, and I haven't regretted it yet. I guess a contemporary alternative would be the Intel NUC. We use a MCE IR remote to control XBMC. IR reciever connected with a usb dongle.

The best of them is the basement office HTPC. I have a PS3 Remote control connected via bluetooth for XBMC. It works seamlessly between the Sony TV and Sony Reciever. I play video games on it (Steam Big Picture with an Xbox 360 controller), surf the web, browse Reddit. ect I use a Lenovo N5902 when I need it to act like a PC.

The Raspberry Pi: It's not perfect, but I like it. It runs RASPBMC. The interface (Confluence Skin) can be a little laggy at times, but I kind of expected that from a 700mhz processor (I'm currently overclocked to 900 with heatsinks). You'll have to buy the MPEG-2 license for your board if you plan on playing files using that codec. Ours uses a MCE Remote similar to the Living room htpc but the IR reciever is connected to the GPIO Pins. It was a bit of a pain to find a good wireless adapter. I went through 3 different models before I found the Edimax. That seems to be the theme of the Pi. Yeah it works but only with certain peripherals. Mine still struggles with 3gb+ 1080p movies over wireless (Stuttering/Buffering), but it handles 2gb 720p movies with ease. This feels like more of a wifi/usb power limitation of the Pi. Hard-wired it will play those same 1080p files just fine. If you like to tinker then get it. If you don't want to fuss with it then get a bookshelf htpc like the NUC (or Foxconn nt-A3700) But you're looking at apples and oranges between a 35$ media player(100~ with accessories) and a 300$ PC

The media library is housed on two internal hard drives. 2TB and 4TB. I have windows set to email if there are any issues with the disks as I have had to replace the 4TB once in the last 4 years and nearly lost a metric fuck-ton of data. I use four folders as my shares. 'Television' on the root of that 4TB drive because it needs nearly all of it. Movies and Music on the root of the 2TB system drive. They are shared via windows built-in SMB and hanewin NFS Server. The reason I use hanewinNFS over windows SMB is that the Pi seems to perform better using NFS shares over wireless. Could be lower the overhead or just voodoo. Who Knows?
I use theRenamer to rename all media before I add it to the XBMC library. Then I scrape it using Media Companion and have it store the info on the server with the media. The reasoning behind this is that when I need to repair, rebuild, or add another XBMC client (It happens from time to time) It doesn't have to scrape 1000's of episodes and movies from the web. It's all there next to the file for XBMC to find quickly. You're welcome imdb/theTVDB.com

Hope that gives you a general idea.

The LP-60 is considered the very bottom of entry-level turntables. It's not murder on vinyl like the BSR tables (though some here might disagree), but it isn't a "hi-fi" turntable by any means. But if you do decide to go that route, you will need speakers and a way for the sound to be amplified to those speakers.

There are generally two types of speakers: passive and powered. Passive speakers will need an amplifier (in the form of a receiver, integrated amplifier or separate pre-amp/amplifier) to send sound out to the speakers. Powered speakers will have their own built in amplifier.

In addition to speakers and amplifier, turntables need a specialized phono preamp. The phono preamp converts the signal from the turntable into a line-level signal that most audio equipment can handle. It also add equalization called the RIAA Curve to compensate for some of the limitations of the vinyl medium.

The LP-60 has a built-in phono preamp, so that part is taken care of. What you will need next is to decide on what type of speakers you want. There are good powered speakers, like Audio Engine, but they can be fairly spendy. Some people use powered monitors designed for mixing music, but I find that they aren't "musical" and can be fatiguing over long listens. You can also get a cheap 2.1 system, but the sound quality will be lacking.

I would recommend going the passive speaker route. If you have a local craigslist, your best bet is to find a decent '90s era receiver. Equipment from the '90s, especially older home-theater units, are the best value in audio gear right now. They aren't desired by collectors because of their plain look, but they were manufactured at a time when quality and power output standards were high.

If you get one of those receivers, I would then recommend getting a pair of these Pioneer BS-22-LR speakers:

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Speakers/Home+Theater+Speakers/SP-BS22-LR

http://www.stereophile.com/content/pioneer-sp-bs22-lr-loudspeaker

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/a-great-bookshelf-speaker/

http://www.budgetphile.com/2013/10/budget-speaker-review-pioneer-sp-bs22-lr.html

They routinely go on sale for $99 (and sometimes $89). Keep an eye out at the big retailers and usually within a month one of them will have them on sale and the other will follow suite suit.

If you don't want to go used, then I would recommend the Sherwood RX-4105. It's inexpensive and proven:

http://www.amazon.com/RX-4105-2-Channel-Remote-Controlled-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B0002EPWC0

Both the speakers and receiver are available at most big box and online retailers (Walmart, Best Buy, New Egg, Amazon, Target, etc.).

If you thin you are fairly serious about vinyl as a hobby, I would step up the turntable to a U-Turn Orbit and get the Sherwood RX-4109 receiver (with built-in phono preamp) instead:

http://uturnaudio.com

http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX-4109-Stereo-Receiver-Black/dp/B000MBUSD6/

Yeah, the AJ ELAC's supposedly have some strange waveguide issues where specific placement determines how loud you perceive the speakers to sound. Have also read that even at higher SPL's they don't sound that loud. Sounds like some kind of phase issue. Big swing in sound signatures between the ELAC's and the Klipsch's but if you like the sound of the Klipsch I'd skip that bundle and get the RP series instead. Better drivers and redesigned and improved tweeter,/ waveguide than the R-28f's.

Authorized online Klipsch resellers:

Klipsch RP-260f $756.92 pair open box new

Klipsch RP-440c $374.92 open box new

HSU STF-2 subwoofer $405 shipped

That gets you to $2035.82 with a sub and I didn't really shop the receiver price that hard. You could go down to the X1200 or go factory refurbished in another receiver and save some money there.

Side surrounds can be almost any bookshelf speaker( Klipsch's side surrounds are always pretty high in price.) I used BIC PL-66 side surrounds with my Klipsch setup that ran around $200 a pair and are horned speakers as well but that's not that important unless you listen to a lot of multi- channel music.

That puts you at $2235.82 with better speakers for your front soundstage staying with Klipsch in their higher speaker line.

if you don't have to have the sub right away I'd wait for the Emp-tek I-12 subwoofer to be back in b stock for $404 shipped. They are currently sold out of their b stock but get them in often and that's a great value subwoofer for the money with an aluminum coned driver that hits down to 20 hz.

Emp-tek I-12 subwoofer

Emp-tek b stock



Denon X2200 $499

You could also look at a speaker design with a sound more in the middle/ neutral and go with something like Chane or Emp-tek. Chane is what I replaced my Klipsch's with and I love the sound of the Planar tweeter.

Chane music cinema

To answer your question about straight vs Angled. It's just personal preference. I like angled better because the weight gets dispersed around your whole ear instead of just pulling down. also makes them more secure.

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I will list some options that i would consider:

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Pixel Phone to Bluetooth Cable AptX to IEM Cable for 2Pin/MMCX for 38$

Pros: Easy way to use, cheap

Cons: Soundquality is not the best possible, The bluetooth cable need to be charged

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Pixel Phone to Bluetooth AptX DAC/AMP to IEM via AUX Cable Fiio Bluetooth DAC/AMP for 35$

Pros: Better Soundquality, some Functions like EQ, Volume Control

Cons: Cost/Soundquality ratio is not very good, needs to be charged, one more thing to carry around

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Pixel Phone to USB C Connector Cable with included DAC to IEM Very good Cable for 80$

Pros: Easy to use Plug & Play, Better Soundquality than Bluetooth

Cons: Cost/Soundquality ratio is OK with DAC, is wired to the phone

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Small Hi-Res DAP to IEM via AUX Cable Shanling M0 with Clip for 112$

Pros: Almost best possible Soundquality, Easy to use and will not drain the Battery of your Phone/ Will still work if the Phone is dead, Cost/Soundquality ratio is amazing, up to 512 GB Storage, weights almost nothing

Cons: One more thing to carry, is still wired, no spotify or other streaming services

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My advice is the Digital Audio Player for the best sound Quality, maybe a cheap adapter for the Pixel. Link to USB C to AUX Adapter

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I hope this helps in making your decision. feel free to ask me about anything that you might consider buying or any other stuff. :)

There's not really any companies out there that compete with Sonos in this market space, probably because Sonos has it cornered. There's 'cheaper' options that allow DIY solutions. Google Audio Cast or Apple Air Play with an Air Foil app/server.

Sonos is as much about the Eco system than it is about the product. Their products are software based to a large extent, which means with future updates you get new features and options.

Like you, I tried like hell to find something else that was cheaper. The reality is once you get done buy amplifiers and shoehorning technology together you end up with a system that's almost as expensive but doesn't have the same potential.

Invest slowly and Sonos and you will be rewarded with a superb experience. My brother just got a Playbase and loves it because he can listen to the commentators for his soccer games in any room in his apartment. He has three play ones split between his kitchen, bedroom, and bathroom, so no matter where he is he can listen to what's on the TV or, if he wants, some other music.

To get that feature level on anything cheaper, you're going to have to use a custom built app that will require a computer to direct the audio. It probably won't integrate quite the way you want with everything, and again, by the time you get done wiring and or buying all the other equipment you'll need, you might find the cost differential to be surprisingly low.

The closest I got was the following:
$600 12 channel amp

x6 DLNA Receivers, about $35/piece

And then something like airfoil to control everything

The Ampturns off automatically when it doesn't detect any inputs, which is nice. You can bridge channels together if you don't need as many inputs, but there's no way to control that remotely, so you're better off broadcasting the same audio stream to multiple DLNA receivers, which is where you need something like Airfoil.

I also found a Control 4 like box that would would route the audio as well to Airplay devices, but I can't remember for the life of me what it was called. Hopefully this has helped a little.

A good receiver will probably run you about $200. Preferably, you'd want a Denon or Onkyo, but those are going to be out of your price range. Avoid Bose, Klipsch, and any of Best Buy's in-store brands. Settle with Yamaha or Sony.

If you eventually want to do 5.1/7.1, something like this or this will do you fine. Ignore extra features like HDMI ports. If you're connecting it to a computer, all you really need is 1 optical port or multi-channel RCA ports. Then, spend the rest on speakers.

Both of the units I posted can output 100w per channel, so some reasonably sized speakers are in order. You want cabinets with speakers devoted to at least high and mid-to-low range -- no dinky "full-range" speakers like Bose uses.

If you're good with power tools, make your own cabinets and save a fortune(1, 2, 3). Otherwise, these, these, or these are good entry-level speakers. DJ speakers/sound cabinets also make good, cheap speakers, but they require a lot more power to drive and usually need to be tuned for home audio. Of course, if you're the set it and forget it type, you can do away with the receiver and speaker placements and just get a sound bar (1, 2).

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions on wiring and what not. Just to note, though, I use lamp cord for most of my setups.

OK. Here we go.

At your price point and experience level we should stick with solid state. tubes are more expensive and potentially temperamental. your speakers are solid, vintage big box bangers. Your room may not be too huge, but you need to push a decent amount of air to get those speakers to sound good. So you need at least 50 watts per channel.

Vintage: when in doubt, go pioneer. they sound great, look awesome and are built like tanks. I would recommend either an SX-750 or SX-780. Anything lower on the food chain might not be able to get your speakers going, and anything higher is going to be out of your price range. The 780 is a slightly later model and might cost a little less, but with no real difference in performance (IMHO). Unfortunately, getting a specific model means looking on eBay. Some folks have gotten burned buying receivers on eBay, I myself have been very lucky. Just make sure the unit has been recently serviced, and that the seller has a positive feedback rating AND SELLS A LOT OF ELECTRONICS.

If you do not want to go eBay, that means thrifts/yard sales/flea markets. Just look for something clean that has the WPC you need (at least 50 as indicated above). Look for the usual suspects, Pioneer, Marantz, Sansui, Technics. Also keep an eye peeled for Sony, Harman Kardon, Kenwood, JVC, Aiwa, etc.

2 things to keep in mind when looking for a vintage receiver:

1. Is it silver faced? It seems silly to judge a receiver on looks, but remember that silver facing was the style in the 70s, which was the golden age of hi-fi. When the faces started to turn black was when shit started to go down hill with consumer audio. Is every silver receiver good and every black one lousy? Not at all. But is this a good way to quickly get an idea about a receiver? Definitely.
   
   
2. Is it heavy? This is another good method for quickly judging vintage audio gear. In general, light weight means bad.
   
   New: a great new receiver in your price range is the Onkyo TX-8255. Has the 50 WPC your speakers crave. Also has a built in phono preamp (which you need for spinning records) which most modern receivers lack. As it is new there is no sweating shady eBay sellers, or worrying about it dying 3 days after you hook it up. But most importantly, it has a decent, neutral sound. Amazon has it for around $200
   
   http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-8255B-TX-8255-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B001AMSPQI/ref=zg_bs_667846011_15
   
   Another nice new receiver that might fit your needs is the Sherwood RX-4105. At 100 WPC you will be banging it nice and loud. It will require an external phono preamp, but at $120 you can afford one.
   
   http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX-4105-Stereo-Receiver-Black/dp/B0002EPWC0/ref=sr_1_24?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1313428014&sr=1-24
   
   If you go with the Sherwood, get this phono-pre, the Artcessories ART DJPRE II . You will not do better for under $100.
   
   http://www.amazon.com/ART-II-Preamplifier-Outputs-Switchable/dp/B000AJR482/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1376331900&sr=1-2&keywords=artcessories

Going to threadjack here. I initially came to this sub looking for info about how to get some outdoor speakers hooked up but since browsing here and other places I've had a bit of scope creep on my initial project. Thinking long term I'd rather not spend $100 to just get the outdoor speakers going when I could put that $100 towards a reciever. The reciever could act as a starting point of a downstairs media room as well as do a better job than any cheap setup for my 2nd zone.

Looking at receivers I think I like this $400 yamaha the best. I would use 5.1 in my media room and then the 2nd amp for a 2nd zone. Would the pioneer set you recommended above be a good set to aim for in the $1000 price range (reciever plus speakers)?

I'm no audiophile but I would love a system that when I turn it on my friends go "WOW!". My wife was against the idea of spending so much on a sound system but when I explained you don't have buy it all at once she really warmed up to the idea.

Have you thought about running Airfoil on the Pis? Haven't used it myself, but I've heard good things.

A nice feature is that you can mix and match ecosystems (e.g. AirPlay, Sonos, Chromecast, bluetooth speakers). Added benefit is that a lot of home automation platforms offer Airfoil support either natively or via plugin. I know it's baked into Indigo and it looks like Home Assistant has an add-on. Wouldn't be surprised if someone cooked something up for Smartthings too.

Worth a shot since you already have Pis on hand.

Another option might be to connect some inexpensive AirPlay receivers to non-AirPlay speakers if you're in a macOS/iOS household. I recently bought this receiver though I haven't played with it yet. Happy to set it up this weekend and report back if you're interested.

Just wanted to give a big thanks to all the helpful people here who are so willing to share their knowledge, and to u/ZeosPantera for his handy guides.

This was the very first project I wanted to complete in our new house, and considering the delays due to missing/wrong pieces for the furniture, my reluctance to punch holes in the walls in our new place, and so on, it was a bit of a pain to take on. My main goals were to keep it simple, modern, and clean, and I think I managed it well enough.

It's a basic setup, and I know there are some taboo things people will point out (e.g. speakers too close to the corners/walls, non O2-free copper-clad wire, etc), but the important thing is that I'm happy with it. I don't plan on changing much for years to come (unless you guys end up pointing out something that ends up bothering the crap out of me). It looks and sounds great - even the wife loves it, despite her initial skepticism when I first told her my plan (probably the most important thing).

So many thanks to everyone in this subreddit for being awesome, and let me know what you guys think.

As requested, here are the components.

TV:

• 65" Vizio M652i-B2
  
  
• Sanus Systems LL11-B1 Mount
  
  
• Antec Bias Lighting for HDTV (for giggles)
  
  Audio:
  
  
• Marantz NR1403 AV Receiver
  
  
• Energy 5.1 Take Classic Speakers
  
  
• Astro A50's Surround Sound Wireless Gaming Headset (for the wee hours of the night)
  
  Media console:
  
  
• A modified combination of a 3-unit and a 1-unit Ikea Besta TV benches (as opposed to the regular frames which don't have cable management). A bit of an elaboration on this: I say this is modified because out of the box, if you want to mount them to the wall, they rely on drywall anchors (f that s). So I changed out the hanging brackets and drilled some new holes to accommodate the Ikea Akurum Suspension Rails that are normally used for kitchen cabinets -waaaaay more secure when you're actually going into the studs. Add some miscellaneous doors and drawers and you end up with what I built.
  
  Edit: Parts list and links added! And formatting.

Your next step is the AVR. Nothing is going to work without it. Since you don't have a budget you're options are open. Normally you'll see recommendations for Denon or Yamaha. If you want something that's going to last a while looks for something with 4k passthrough. I would look at these as an example.

• The E400 is a solid 7.1 model that has been discoed but is a good price. $350
  
  
• The Yamaha 377 is a great lower cost 5.1 unit with 4k passthrough. $250
  
  
• The Yamaha 575 is another 7.2 option with 4k. $350
  
  Now for speakers you can get different rear speakers than the front set. If you want to hang them from ceiling I would go with something light...the Pioneer BS22's are not that. I would look at something like these:
  
  
• BIC32s as they are small and light but sound pretty good.
  
  
• Polk's OWM3 might also be something to look at because of flexible mounting options.
  
  
• Boston Acoustics XS could also fit in nicely and they have a bunch of mounting options too.

Do you want to stream from Internet Streaming Services, or are you more interested in Streaming Music you have stored on your computer?

If primarily Internet Streaming Services, then the Google ChromeCast-Audio ($35) seems to be exactly what you are looking for -

https://store.google.com/us/product/chromecast_audio?hl=en-US

This device uses the Computer Network. Great for Streaming Services, but less great if you want to play stored music.

If you want some type of Bluetooth Device, then there are couple that have very long range -

Avantree Oasis Plus - $79 -
https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Simultaneously/dp/B07BQYYDNJ/

Avantree Oasis - $59 -
https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Certified/dp/B01H6I3YGK/

Vifly-Koo Bluetooth 4.2 - $49 -
https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Viflykoo-Adapter/dp/B078YNDVXV/

These are Transmitter and Receiver with a 150ft range.

However, your Network Router should have considerable range. Unless there is something obstructing it. And you can by Range Extenders for Home Networks. But it should easily reach 20ft ...again... unless there is something obstructing it.

There is a Network Analysis App that you can get for your Smart Phone that will tell you what is going on on your network. I could be that you and everyone around you is crowding the same Wireless Network Channel. You might be able to improve things by simply switching to a lesser used channel.

Let me see if I can find a video demonstrating this app.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW2b2yB69W8

There are dozens of these on YouTube.

Can you tell us SPECIFICALLY what Network Streaming Device you are currently using. Well it seems you have bought an Airport Express now, but what were you using before that.

Most device today come with some Network Streaming capability. For example, my BluRay Player (Sony) has the standard video streaming services - Netflix, Hulu, Amazon - but it also has - Spotify, Slacker, and Pandora - If you have a paid service, you can make playlist and have a preset list of song you want to play.

I didn't get much input in /r/hometheater, so I am going to cross-post this here:


> I want to upgrade my home theater setup. I'd like to pick up some higher-end towers, and have been on the wait-list for the Chane A5RX-C's for 6+ months now.
>
> I'm curious if that is still a good upgrade path, or if I should be looking at other options? And if so, what?
>
> Current setup:
>
> L/R - BIC America FH6
> Center - BIC FH6 LCR
> Rears - BIC PL-66
> Sub - (1) BIC F12
> * Receiver - Denon E400 - 7.1
>
>
> Planned upgrade path:
>
> 1. Replace left and right speakers with tower variants and a matching center.
> 2. Figure out NAS vs HTPC and the universal remote situation.
> 3. Upgrade receiver to 7.2 and pull in another sub.
>
> Speaker upgrade options:
>
> 1. Upmarket BIC Americas -
> BIC PL-980 and PL-28II
> 2. Chane's top end tower and matching center -
> Chane A5RX-C and A2RX-C
> 3. Wildcard. Suggestions welcome! Accessories4less is local to me, so something like KEF Q700 or Q900 open boxes are on the table.
>
> Room is 18x26. Use is 60% music, 40% TV/gaming.
>
> I've been happy with the efficiency and clarity of the BICs. Definitely enjoyed the volume. I'm just looking to upgrade and in a better place financially than I was two years ago. Curious what I could get for a few dollars more.

I wasn't part of the convo, but I'd like some of your input. I just bought these speakers and is my first step into some better audio equipment (upgrading from Logitech x-540s). Since I needed a receiver, I looked up some on offerup and found this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-1513-Receiver-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B007R8U5VM/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

for $100. I'm thinking I can get it for around $80-85. Do you think these would be good enough for these speakers? I'd like to be able to switch input from my monitors to my headphones without having to plug/unplug every time and these seem to have input controls as well.

Or if there are any you recommend that's available on amazon for around $120? Thanks so much for the help man. Learning about all this has been so confusing haha.

I've read bad things about Fluance, but haven't heard them in person. I would also not bother with Atmos and instead focus on getting a really great 5.1 (or 5.2) system together. I recommend you try and demo speakers in person too. The Polk subs are iffy, I would skip their entry level subs.

This Definitive Technology set is a really solid deal. Purchased separately that would be around a ~$2500 set of speakers, now for $1040. The floorstanding speakers are the last generation but still excellent. They include powered subs too so you don't need separate subwoofers either. Coupled with this Denon receiver and you're all set. ($600 with Amazon Prime -- if you don't have Prime already you can get it and still save money over the full retail price.)

To be direct - the speakers are junk, but in all seriousness if you like them that is all that matters.

Most people have never heard good surround sound, so most things will sound better than an internal TV speaker.

A good setup will cost you about $750 - $1000. Which is less than a good TV. Audio is just as important as picture to most of us.

For a receiver I recommend a Denon x2200 - $500
Denon AVR-X2200W 7.2 Channel Full 4K Ultra HD A/V Receiver with Bluetooth and Wi-Fi https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZPTBNXY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_KwWxyb03K5H3H

If you want to stay with the same size speakers, I recommend the Monoprice 5.1 - $250
Monoprice 10565 Premium 5.1 Channel Home Theater System with Subwoofer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EOZFUYI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_2tWxybG13S019

If you want slightly bigger speaker I recommend the Pioneer Andrew Jones 5.1 - $450
Pioneer SP-PK52FS Andrew Jones 5.1 Home Theater Speaker Package https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IK8I9K2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_svWxybHZANTBT

I just want to say that your guides are awesome! I just started researching on home theater and they have really helped.


So I am looking at getting possibly getting a 5.1 system and I've found some sweet looking speaker bundles on amazon. I was curious on this 5.0 Klipsch RF-42 II bundle. Would that be a good combination or would bookshelf speakers be a better choice than the surroud speakers? The bundle saves ~$120 from the individual prices so I thought they looked like a good deal.


I wanted to pair that bundle with the Denon AVR-E400 receiver and SVS SB1000 subwoofer in hopes that this setup would last for a long time.

If you’re an iPhone user just know that you need Bluetooth headphones that support AAC, Apple’s audio codec, if you want the best quality audio. If the headphones don’t support AAC then your phone will default to the lowest quality SBC codec.
And those are in-ear headphones, is that what you meant?
I picked up some Sony refurbished wireless in-ear headphones and I love them. They support AAC and their headphone app is great because it gives you an equalizer so you can fine tune the sound the way you like it, not an option the iPhone gives you when streaming anything other than Apple Music.
Have you thought about using a Bluetooth receiver for your current headphones to make them wireless?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FK1Z6LQ/?coliid=I1F6HK6ZBWHGXR&colid=12XJIHIIOHUBE&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

https://www.amazon.com/uBTR-Bluetooth-Receiver-support-Activation/dp/B07D8K76F4/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_23_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SQ80672RTP4RDWVK8AWF

You didn't mention your budget, or whether you want 5.1 surround .... but i will assume it's not that high, since you aren't sure what you're looking for. I would start with a entry-level receiver ($200) and a pair of good bookshelf speakers or a pair of floor-standing speakers. If you don't have much experience with this, then honestly even a pair of $150-$200 speakers will sound incredible compared to your typical TV speakers or computer speakers. Decent floor-standing speakers will cost you more than that, of course, but might let you get away without a subwoofer for longer than a pair of bookshelfs might.


You can always add a subwoofer later.


Here is a good entry level receiver for a great price. It's a model from 2012 i think, so discontinued now, but less than $200:

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-522-K-5-Channel-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B007L8Q75G/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1419883216&sr=8-4&keywords=pioneer+receiver

And here are decent speakers to start with. I really don't think you can get more value for $150 than these bookshelf speakers:

http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-AM4095-A-Monitor40-Loudspeaker/dp/B0071MSYEE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419883321&sr=8-1&keywords=polk+audio+monitor+40+series+ii


(I have those speakers and they are wonderful. They are just really big for bookshelf speakers. But the sound is amazing).

This is a solid system and should be pretty future-proofed with that receiver in the case that you want to upgrade the channels.

If you're will to put in a little work, I think you can build a better sounding set for that price.

Two pairs of the Micca 42MBX for the fronts and surrounds:
http://amzn.com/B00E7H8GG2
-- These speakers earned high praise and recommendation in the audiophile community (particularly AVSForums) for their fantastic sound quality, which got me to purchase them for my own system. Love them dearly!

The matching center channel:
http://amzn.com/B00HHFBEK6

That together is about $300.

You can then use the giftcard for a subwoofer:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer-subwoofer-black/5086873.p?id=1218610014537&skuId=5086873

A solid receiver:
http://amzn.com/B00ILCS182

Plus all your cables and banana plugs from Monoprice. You might even have some money left over to get an extra pair of the Micca speakers to make it a 7.1.

if there was an android phone with ios software it might be the best android phone.

i think google pixels are at least somewhat decent but even then it's still not good enough.

as for headphone jack, if there was a good wireless headphone dac/amp. i wouldn't mind, it's easy enough.

2 usb-c ports would be fun though. image the possibility of charging your phone and using a dongle at the same time! it's possible asus rog phone did it well they did three and a headphone jack.

i just want a good phone that will last more than 2 years, so a replaceable battery and decent software is a must. but ha nobody offers that. so i guess i want a cheap phone that i can replace easily? no, there aren't any cheap phones with usb-c ports, and i'm not fucking with micro usb anymore.

so what am i left with? my old phone. it's deathbed right now but there is nothing to switch to.

anyways back to apple, change to usb-c and do the thing make a notchless phone again. make phones great again.

With your budget, if you don't want to go modular and add the pieces as you go along and get a 5.1 right away, think this seems like a decent package that you'll be very happy with for a good couple of years:

These Pionneer towers x2

And the surrounds

And center that go with the set

This sub seems very well liked around here

The amp you mentionned (I have had RX-V657 for years, very good) is also very good an will be plenty

rest on cables and stuff if you need, go to http://www.monoprice.com

All that should come in around your budget!

Cheers and have fun!

Since you're on iPhone, it may be worth looking into an AirPlay solution, like this, which has decent reviews and seems pretty promising. It's pretty cheap too.

Zeo's seemed to like this cheap MPOW Bluetooth reciever (video). I doubt there's that much difference between most the Bluetooth receivers, just try find one on Amazon with good reviews would be the most cost effective method.

ok that may be the problem with why you are not getting rear sound. unless you set your ps3 up to output dolby digital and dts, that box probably downconverts pcm 7.1 into 2ch sound. you can try going into your ps3 audio settings and uncheck everything except the following:

dts 5.1, dolby digital 5.1, 2ch pcm 44.1khz, 2ch pcm, 48khz.

next go into the BD/DVD settings and for audio output HDMI put it on Bitstream.

or if you upgrade to an HDMI system, none of that will matter anymore and it will just work. most HTiB packages under $500 or so wont have HDMI inputs


but as far as your original question, here's what i would suggest. first thing you need is a receiver. if you dont want to get something refurbished, try something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007R8U5VM/

(please not this receiver does not have analog to digital upscaling for video, meaning that if you run analog sources like component video, you will have to run both component and HDMI cables to the projector)

for some smallish speaker pacakges, this is a good one:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001202C44/

this ones a bit smaller, and quite good, but not as good:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0049P2000/

i would recommend hanging the front speakers on the wall instead of stands, they will look better.

there are plenty of choices including building your own package. you can even get more flat, white speakers that almost disappear on the wall, but generally speaking, smaller speakers cost more to retain their audio quality in comparison to big boxy ones.

these are just starter ideas. tons of stuff out there.

if you really want an HTiB package, look at Onkyo, and dont get one with a built in blu ray or dvd, those are the ones that dont have HDMI inputs for more devices.

Hi Zeroes,

I'm moving into my first house soon and am looking for some advice on setting up 5.1 or better in my new living room.

The biggest issue is I have to replace my aging Kenwood VR-615 receiver that was part of a HiB system circa 2002. Since it doesn't take HDMI, I currently connect the optical SPDIF from my PS3 to it, and it can't be used to switch between inputs to my TV, which is a Panasonic Viera 42".

I have a pair of OHM Acoustics Model L which can be used as front speakers. Please note they are 8/4Ohm impedance, contrary to that link.

For everything else, I have the rest of the HiB system:

5 KS-206HT bookshelf speakers (front, surround, center)

1 SW-15HT subwoofer (unpowered)

So I'd like a 7.1 or better receiver that will play back blu-ray audio, switch HDMI inputs, and importantly, convert analog inputs to HDMI so I can run just a single HDMI cable to my TV.

A couple contenders are:

Yamaha RX-V675

Pioneer VSX-1123

A minor concern with both of these is replacing the sub, since like most sensible receivers they don't power the sub output(s).

Thanks for any advice.

Thank you for this resource, would appreciate any input for my current plan but it seems relatively straight forward.

The questions I have for you, given this budget and requirements, is there a better setup? Assuming I go with this, in a 2.0 setup would it be better to get the two floor standing speakers first or two bookshelves and the center? Any glaring errors?


Budget: $1200ish Requirements: Eventual 5.1 system, 4k

Current Equipment: 4k tv, Xbox One, Chromecast/Fire Tv/HTPC/etc

Room Setup: 12' x 12', TV 7' from the back wall (on stand at the end of the bed).

Plan: Overall budget is ~$1200 but only want to drop ~$800 at the moment so I am opting to build over time starting with a 2.0 setup (receiver and either two Floor standing OR Center + 2 bookshelf).

Receiver- Denon AVR-S500BT 5.2 ($275)
Speakers- Fluance XLHTB ($800 total, split 500/300 depending which option I choose)

Sub- TBD

Might be overkill for the room I'm in but the speakers seem like a nice mix of quality/price for me and I want a decent set that will last. Not totally sold on the receiver,this Yamaha seems like a decent deal but not sure I'd use any of the features.

Any beginner who just wants a fun system for a good price i would recommend a unit like this

Get 5 speakers, a sub, and some sources like a xbox, apple tv or bluray and you are good to go. The 5.1 in Video games and 5.1 mixes in movies make the surround well worth it.

It all really depends on what you want to be able to do with the system in the end (watch movies, music etc..) and what the priorities are (sound quality, surround sound)
If in the end audiophile sound quality is what you want though, go with a seperate system.

I've found the answer is to not but a wired DAC but instead to buy a high quality BT amp that uses a good codec. The Fiio BTR1 is a great option, but there are cheaper $20 options that support AptX.

I think this year with BT5 only beginning to roll out, we're going to see many more options like this.

I'd get a wireless receiver and use normal ears.

I've got this which I really love but the general consensus is that the Radsone ES100 is the best.

I had AirPods for convenience listening but they've now been retired in favour of my uBTR w/ VE Monk Plus.

Slightly less convenient - much better sound

You really should look into something with active noise cancelling. ANC was literally invented because a guy from Sony got stressed out over airplane noise.

The M50 is fine, but it's not really very isolating.

The $200 budget does limit your choices a little, but a pair of Bose Quietcomfort 25 might be just the ticket. A lot (a LOT) of people buy those for ANC and good (if not kick-ass) sound.

The QC25 should be in the $170-ish price point. You can Bluetooth-ify them for $30-ish - https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-uBTR-Bluetooth-Wireless-Receiver/dp/B07D8K76F4 but personally I'd pay the $69 for a FiiO BTR3 which is just outstanding in my book (have one, use one daily, love it to bits).

Like others have said. Get a scosche Rythem+. It just works and its comfortable. The Peloton HRM is not great.

The mat is ok.

Go to a bike shop and get fit for good shoes....The peloton shoes are ok, but I prefer sidi. Get aftermarket delta look cleats, the peloton cleats are not great. Or replace the pedals completely.A good fan is also almost a requirement.


For bluetooth headphones the system works better if you turn off bluetooth on the tablet and connect an external bluetooth adapter. This corrects the issue many have with audio syncing being off.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KO1JNCA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WS1NFA6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Bluetooth's default codec has high latency which means that the video/audio will go out of sync and the sound quality will be shite, at least for me.

aptX is a codec that's meant to fix that, and aptX-LL (Low Latency) would be the best choice for streaming desktop audio wirelessly.

Buy the FiiO BTR1, which is aptX+aptX-LL capable receiver and also buy a transmitter that's capable of aptX-LL (like this, this or this) and you'll not regret having aptX capable gear after trying to watch normal YouTube videos or game on that crappy default BT connection.

I believe macOS can utilize aptX by default, but if you have a Windows PC and do not have a 3.5mm jack to hook up the transmitter to, then you can buy an aptX-capable dongle like this and install the CSR Harmony BT stack because the default Microsoft BT stack does not properly support aptX.

I have a BTR1 and the CSR 4.0 dongle that I linked above and I get near zero latency unless I go too far (it switches codec to the default BT one if I go too far) - I'm not sure if it's using aptX-LL though, but it's definitely using aptX.

The upcoming FiiO BTR3 and the Bluewave GET also support aptX-HD apart from aptX-LL, but I don't think most media can even use such a high bitrate, so aptX-LL will be fine for now.

I guess you can ignore my advice if you are happy with the Mpow receiver (like many people) - I didn't use it personally, but my experience with non-aptX devices has been awful.

I'm creating an outdoor setup that needs to be portable and loud. I'd like to be able to bring "the setup" to my pool for parties and play music off an iPhone but I'd also like to bring it to the local park to run movie nights for the kids in town, running the sound off of my laptop.

Ideally it would be enough sound to fill a 50' x 50' outdoor area with maybe 40 people in it, and it would be as wire-free as possible.

Right now I'm considering an aux splitter connected to two of these Avantree Oasis LONG RANGE Bluetooth Transmitter and Receiver, aptX Low Latency, Optical RCA 3.5mm Audio, VOICE & DISPLAY, BYPASS for TV Speakers [24M Warranty] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H6I3YGK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_LOzTzbCA7VW50 Which would allow me to broadcast audio to four Bluetooth devices, which I'm thinking would be maybe these AOMAIS GO Bluetooth Speakers,Portable Indoor/Outdoor 30W Full Volume Wireless Stereo Pairing Home Theater Systems Waterproof,Booming Bass with Power Bank,Durable for Pool Party,Beach,Camping(Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071H8MJ99/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_CPzTzbN2PE2P3

At 30 watts each that's 120 watts of sound which I'm hoping would be enough if the speakers are at the four corners of the area?

This seems complex and expensive at $400-ish and maybe not like the best idea but I don't have a lot of other ideas for portable, mildly weather proof and easy setup?

Foam

How to

Haven't done it myself but it doesn't seem to difficult.

As to an amp you can power the speakers from your computer or an mp3 player using the headphone jack with this cable for 2 channel sound (left and right speakers). Connect the speakers using 16 gauge speaker wire (radioshack).

Or you can go with something like this to power them.

There are likely sellers in your area with "vintage stereo receivers" that will be cheaper and still sound great. So search that term on craigslist in the electronics section and you should find some good stuff in your price range.

If you can spring for it, this Denon receiver is really, really good, and "future proof". The Audyssey software is really nice as well (automatic setup in this case/no walking around with mic, measuring distances, etc..). Otherwise, if this is too much out of your budget, I would tend to stick with Denon/Yamaha and just get what you can afford. As long as you choose good speakers and sub, set your crossover right, its going to sound great.

What is your budget?

Powered or passive with an amp bookshelf speakers will give you better sound than the Sonos Ones.

A step up from Edifiers are Fluance Ai40B for $200.

Echo dots or the new inputs have stereo output. You use one echo for two speakers. You wouldn't use an echo for the left channel and another for the right channel.

If you want to stay with Sonos and get better larger powered speakers or passive speakers with an amp, you hook them up to the Sonos Connect. Or go with better passive bookshelf speakers with the Connect:Amp or the Amp. For better bass you can then add a subwoofer.

Other options are Chromecast Audio or an Apple Airplay Receiver for streaming either over WIFI.

Speaker recommendations: AverageJoe's Speaker Recs, r/HTBuyingGuide Speaker Recs

Also some home audio guides: r/Audiophile Getting Started, Beginner's Guide to Home Audio, Intro to home stereo systems

Hey, thanks for this list, It's really helpful.

I thought maybe you could help me with either figuring out whats up with my old system or at least picking out a new one.

My current system started cutting out, audio completely off for 10-30 seconds then back on for a minute or so, back off etc. When it is on it sounded OK to me. The system wasn't especially nice to begin with anyway, the speakers are Polk Audio RM6750 and the reciever is Pioneer VSX-522-K.

When it started to do this I pulled all the wires out and ohmed them and got open (over 100Kohms) on all 5 speakers. I pulled the speakers off the wall and checked right on the terminals to be sure. is it even possible to get sound out like that? am I half deaf for not even noticing?

I grabbed two sony speakers I'd been using in my garage, (at first just to check my meter wasn't broken, but i got a little over 7ohms on each of them as I would expect). I plugged them into the receiver as the two fronts with nothing else plugged in and i still get the same in and out audio.
Did the speakers take out the receiver or vise versa? could i have done something wrong to cause this? I bought the receiver 14 months ago.



Anyway I'm thinking if i have to trash the whole thing i'll replace it with 5 Micca MB42x and a Denon AVR-E200. I'll probably just keep using the old PolkAudio sub that came with the busted speakers for now.

Should that setup work OK?

Also, the current speakers hang off a screw on the wall, do you have any tips on mounting the micca's? or is their a similar alternative that will easily mount on a wall?

Thanks for any input!

Judging from your pictures, here is my guess, but there is still some missing information...

The first picture is for you to hook up your receiver to. He's already ran speaker wire from that junction to where either speakers are, or speaker terminals end.

In the family room, are their front, center, and rear speakers or speaker wires/terminals? If so, then the receiver is powering ALL of those and the basement/outdoor speakers are wired somewhere else.

What I SUSPECT he did is have the the bottom 2 channels of the box in the first picture power the outdoor and basement sound w/ a volume control knob in between.

If that's the case, you'll want to get a receiver with a Zone B output that's POWERED (otherwise you'll need a separate amp). Something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V677-7-2-channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B00ILCS182/ref=sr_1_1?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1457550059&sr=1-1&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A2883002011

In the second picture, that chord is PROBABLY for a second subwoofer. It's a coax-RCA adapter. Coax is easier and safer to run over long distances than RCA, and since it's on the other side of the family room, that's what I assume it is. Plus, in the junction picture, there looks to be two subwoofer outs.

To help clarify what's needed, can you let us know if there are ceiling speakers or speaker wire in the back of your family room?

For your patio/basement, are there any other places that may hook up to those speakers? When you toured the house with the previous owner, was the basement and outdoor speakers already playing when he played whatever was in the family room, or did he have to turn anything on OTHER than adjusting the volume knob?

Hey Ya'll,

I know you probably get inundated with these types of questions, but anyways, here goes: I'm currently looking at my first hi-fi system. As follows:

• Custom U-Turn Audio TT, Acrylic Platter, Ortofon 2M red cartridge
  
• Yamaha R-N303BL Stereo Receiver with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth & Phono ($269)
  
• Klipsch R-51M Bookshelf Speaker ($249)
  
  The whole system rings in at just under a grand. I'm wondering if there are any highly-recommended alternatives to the N303BL Receiver, and R-51M speakers that may be a little less powerful, and a little less expensive? I'd like to keep the TT as is, and will be integrating an Onkyo cassette deck, and a CD player in the future.
  
  Thanks!

That receiver you linked to is only a radio receiver. You should look at something like this or this. Higher end receivers may not always give you better sound quality as that has a lot to do with speakers as well. I think you're better off with something mid-range like the links provided. The E300 has airplay which is nice if you have wifi and an iphone.

What you’re looking for is a Bluetooth transmitter. I did find this one on Amazon (Avantree Long Range Bluetooth Transmitter) that has an 3.5mm aux in, so it can be connected using an aux cord from your reciever’s headphone jack (and also to power source.)

Even if you don’t get this one specifically, maybe it can help you identify another similar product that works best for you. (for example, The Avantree one can also function as a Bluetooth receiver, which it sounds like your current setup doesn’t need.)

This is a simpler/cheaper option from a brand I have positive experience with.

I went this direction – perfect solution

Got a bit expensive FiiO BTR1, but it's quite powerful to drive two headphones, plus has integrated battery, so no wires.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075YD83Y9/

Sadly, I can't use aptX codec because of lack of Apple support, but AAC works great as well.

Edit: typo

For most people, the cheapest 5.1 receiver you can find will be more than sufficient. Newegg, Amazon, and others constantly have Yamaha and Pioneer receivers on sale for $200-300 or even less. Yes, they're "low end", but they have all the inputs you need, support HD audio and HDMI 1.4 and 3D and audio return (usually, anyway), and have plenty of power to push a cheap set of satellite speakers.

For example, this Pioneer at $230 would be perfectly fine, or any of the other receivers listed in the table on that page (prices ranging from $180-230).

Hdcp 2.2 seems to be the flavor of this round. You might want to future proof by making sure your receiver has this. It's also nice to gave the video upscaling features that some receivers can do better than tvs. I heard the denon i/p scaler is better than most tvs.

Atmos, is also a feature that may interest you in the future for more sound immersion. A refurbed Denon with all of these features could be close to $500.


this might fill all of the requirements

It looks like there are a lot of people looking for something good on a budget. I picked up one of these Sherwood RX-4508 from Amazon and I can't recommend it more.

Bluetooth, a decent phono stage and pretty darn good sound quality for not a lot of money. I have my JVC QL-Y55F hooked up to it and I'm pretty happy with it.

I originally bought this receiver as something simple for my basement pool room but it is better than I expected.

Not quite, these are what I have.

Yamaha Receiver

Bookshelfs

Center

OP might have the center speaker you linked though, but theirs seems to have ports on each end.

And yes, that can all run through the receiver. So instead of plugging your XBOX into HDMI 3 (for example) on your TV, you plug it into HDMI3 on the receiver. Then you switch the input on the receiver to that input when you want to play. The same way you would on the TV, except the TV always stays on the same input.

Bottom line, spend the money on the receiver. If you can't afford high end speakers at first that's fine, but I would recommend not skimping on the receiver as that ties everything together.

If you want to use all four speakers to play the same thing all the time then you could go with something like the Sherwood RX-4105 (http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX-4105-Stereo-Receiver-Black/dp/B0002EPWC0) or Sherwood RX-4109 if you need phono inputs.

If you want to play different things on the speakers (e.g. if you have one set in the living room and the other in the kitchen) you will need a receiver with at least 2 zones (sometimes called "multi-room"). Something like the Sherwood RX_5502 (http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX5502-Dual-Zone-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B000RGR50U) would work well.

Those Sherwoods are budget models but they should treat you well. The amplifier's in those receiver are rather solid.

There will be no degradation of the HDMI signal when using a receiver.

HDMI is a digital signal, you don't have to worry about it like you would an analog one (s-video, rca, vga etc.).

The only changes to the video signal when passing through a receiver would be due to actual changes the receiver would try and make (upscaling and such), but those types of features can usually be disabled.

Where you will "degrade" the signal (the audio signal that is) is if you use SPDIF, because that standard does not support lossless formats like DTS-MA.

You want to connect the raspberry pi through HDMI to your new receiver. This will provide the best and most simple setup.

As far as picking a receiver, you're not going to find one for less than ~$150, unless you go used.



EDIT: To add to what I was saying, Denon makes a good entry level receiver:
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-1513-Channel-Through-Receiver/dp/B007R8U5VM

You should be able to find it on sale for ~$150.

Is this the TaoTronics device you have?
What is a "cinch" audio input?
Both the Apple TV and the Amazon Echo connect to the TaoTronics device but what is connected to the stereo input?

Something to consider: Does you TV have RCA or 3.5mm audio output? My old AV receiver didn't have HDMI inputs so I send all sources to the TV then audio out to my receiver from the TV and used the TV to switch sources. Maybe you could do that or combine both the receiver and TV inputs (pain to switch unless you have a smart remote like Harmony)

This seems more like a general AV setup vs Echo specific. You might get more responses in a different, AV specific subreddit.
What is the model of the TV, receiver and what other sources do you have (with what output types? e.g. Wii with RCA, PS4 with HDMI, DVR with HDMI and CD player with TOSlink etc)

I have already tried programming a harmony to control the system. I just couldn't replicate this. The remote signals for the components go through the amp, so you cant really separate them and still use the remote. You make some great points. Thanks for the help. Perhaps I can persuade him to break up the system. I was thinking this could work.

Excellent choice on the Tritrix! My first build as well ( that was followed by 15" ported sub, building some massive tower speakers, and a 7-1/2 ft tall horn sub, lol).

Since you'll be running a few different inputs, maybe a stereo receiver? Not a 5.1 or 7.2, but Yamaha and others make pretty decent stereo receivers.

Yamaha w/bluetooth

Sherwood w/bluetooth

You could also look for something used. There are quite a few out there and a lot of times for real good deals.

Since I don't wear IEMs, I won't offer any advice, however after some research I did just buy the $28.99 TRN V80 for a family member with an iPhone in your position and will likely get the FiiO μBTR ($27.99 on Amazon) to wirelessly drive it.

Just about any digital audio player - software and hardware - should be able to play FLAC files. Even my decade+ old COWON iAUDIO 7 can play two channel 44.1 kHz 16 bit FLAC. My DAP is $3.99 PowerAMP on my old $80 Nexus 5 and it can play 5.1 channel 96 kHz 24 bit FLAC, Opus, OGG Vorbis and every other format I've tried to play, usually through my $53.99 FiiO Q1 connected with a $5.59 OTG cable.

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Sounds like you better not concentrate too hard on work in case one of those VPs passes by and doesn't get the immediate attention they need from everyone. In most modern office environments not wearing headphones which leak sound is the relevant criterion. This is what I wear in the office and this is what I wear when in my office.

Reciever: Denon AVR-E200. Great entry level unit, and I have had nothing but good experience with Denon.

Speakers: Polk Audio RM705. Good entry level full kit. Upgrade front channels when the money becomes available.

Bluetooth: Logitech Bluetooth Audio Adapter. I have one. Works flawlessly for Bluetooth.

Hope this was helpful.

With the options you're looking for, you'll really jack the price up a few notches. Here's is a Denon I found with 7 HDMI and 4k. In Amazon you can filter by number of HDMI ports. It's a bit pricey, but will likely do most of what you need.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01E69LWWA/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1477991506&sr=1-3


As far as wireless speakers go, you're limited in options. Sonos is great, but lacking in the true 5.1 theater environment. I haven't worked with many other wireless systems that work as well.

I'm connected: PS4 >HDMI > TV and PS4 > Optical > AV Receiver

I have this receiver.

I know HDMI is required to get HD codecs, but when I go PS4 > HDMI > AVR > TV; it doesn't work.

Are you telling me you get your PS4 to work though your receiver? All my research points to this ability being removed with the PS4 2.0 patch. I'd love to know your secret.

Thanks for your responses

After several months and hundreds of dollars I think I'm complete!

Turntable:
Kenwood KD-40R. One day I asked my dad if he had a turntable and this is what started it all. We found it in the attic, original box and in great shape. Replaced the needle and I was good to go. (Minus not having anything else, of course)

Speakers:

• Polk TSi 100 Bookshelf Speakers (Ebay, $100)
  
  Sub:
  
  
• Polk PSW10 (Newegg shell shocker, $80)
  
  Stands:
  
  
• Sanus Systems Wood Speaker Stands
  
  Receiver (hidden behind tv):
  
  
• Onkyo TX-NR509 Network Receiver. This thing is freaking awesome. I got it on sale from Amazon for $150. I control it with my phone, stream music from my phone, run the computer/turntable/game consoles through it.
  
  Cables:
  
  
• Dayton Audio SCP-6 6 Feet Speaker Cable Pair with Bananas.
  
  
• Mediabridge Sub Cable
  
  Preamp:
  
  
• Behringer PP400
  
  

At $300 I'd recommend you start with a 2.0 system then build on it as you can. Something like this:

http://smile.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-522-K-5-Channel-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B007L8Q75G/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&qid=1420684815&sr=8-28&keywords=surround+receiver

http://smile.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420684861&sr=8-1&keywords=mb42x

This would be a 2.0 system, then add this when you can: http://smile.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-1000-10-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU3AA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420684915&sr=8-1&keywords=sub-1000

which makes it 2.1, then this: http://smile.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-C-Channel-Speaker-Tweeter/dp/B00HHFBEK6/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1420684928&sr=8-6&keywords=micca

That makes it 3.1, then get these: http://smile.amazon.com/Micca-Bookshelf-Speakers-3-5-Inch-Tweeter/dp/B00DP5NH5C/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1420684928&sr=8-7&keywords=micca

Now you have a nice, reasonably good 5.1 system.

Projectors are not cheap. Game console will just plug into an HDMI. I imagine the HDMI goes up to the game room. If you want more than one you can get one of these. Projectors are not going to be ch eap. Possibly 200 USD for a good one. Make sure you get one with lamps that are not prohibitively expensive to replace. Get a used receiver online for cheaper and it should last as long as you need. You can get a good used receiver with Bluetooth and or wifi for 300 or more. Here is a good Yamaha.

have a look at some fluance systems. http://www.amazon.com/Fluance%C2%AE-AVHTB-including-Three-way-Floorstanding/dp/B00064JWSG/
That's a very good value u get, for a fair price. If you really want a sub get something like this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00669L3HS/
and then just get any receiver you want. eg. this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7X2OW6/

I never knew about the Echo amp. Interesting, however the lack of Airplay 2 is a dealbreaker for me. That does look realy nice though, for 1/2 the price.

My requirements were Airplay 2, and amp auto On/Off. I began searching a couple of weeks ago and settled on a used Audiosource AMP100VS for under $100 and a used Airport Express for $50. The amp is hidden under a cabinet and the airport express is wall mounted behind a houseplant.

Here's the amp I have:
http://audiosource.net/shop/amp100vs/

Something comparable:
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-apa150-150w-power-amplifier--300-812

However, you have to get it connected to your network with an additional device. I went airport express for Airplay 2, but something like this could do as well.

https://smile.amazon.com/Airplay-Receiver-RIVERSONG-Wireless-Audio/dp/B01HFYZDNC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=airplay+receiver&qid=1563218596&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

I also just purchased three Sonos Ones today! I'm excited to set these up.

I would stay away from the Sony. I reviewed the matching bookshelf and its really is not very good.

If you are looking for crisp and clear sound, the Sonys will not provide that for you.

Between the 2 I would take the Polk 65T

The Denon AVR-200 is a very good entry level receiver that I think would suit your needs. It is a little over budget new but if you find one used or refurbished it should fit very nicely.

Thanks. I think I want a 2016 receiver due to the updated integration with apps etc, so I've narrowed it down to these:

599 USD - Denon AVR-X2300W 7.2 Channel Full 4K Ultra HD AV Receiver with Bluetooth

349 USD - Yamaha RX-V481

499 USD - Yamaha RX-V581

428 USD - Onkyo TX-NR555

I believe they all have WiFi, Bluetooth, 4k. I'm not sure about HDR though.

I'll check out those bookshelf speakers, they look interesting (if pricey). The sub looks interesting as well.

Other choices:

899 USD - Klipsch R115SW and WA2 Kit Subwoofer and Wireless Kit

Since you want to use this turntable, I'd recommend spending a bit more on a 2-channel receiver with a built-in preamp like this ($142 new) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZ5852Q or this ($150 refurb) http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/onktx8020/onkyo-tx-8020-50-watts-2-channel-stereo-receiver/1.html or this ($178 new) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EE18O7W

The Onkyo is a better receiver and has the added benefit of a sub pre-out so you can add a small subwoofer down the road.

Hey! I could use some help with adding a subwoofer to my setup. Currently I run a Sherwood RX-4508 to Polk Tsi150 bookshelf speakers to play my vinyl. I wanted to add a subwoofer to the setup, so I added the Polk PSW303. Since my receiver doesn't have a dedicated subwoofer input, I simply connected it with speaker wire, just as I did with my speakers. When I play any record, the sound will play for maybe 4 seconds before the entire receiver shuts down (then I have to unplug it and replug it in for it to come back on). I have no idea where to start diagnosing the problem. Any advice would be appreciated- thank you!

Audio streams are a special case. You can connect and use multiple other devices simultaneously up to a point, but if you have multiple Bluetooth speakers or headphones paired, it will switch the audio stream to whichever one you select and disconnect the previous. In the case of your watch and phone, audio is being sent from one or the other to your AirPods, but while they stay paired, it's only ever playing one audio stream from one iOS device at a time. In any event, that's a different scenario from sending two audio signals to two speakers or pairs of headphones from a single phone/tablet/computer, etc. There are systems that let you get around this with additional hardware (something like this for example but I can't speak to quality personally), but the question was specifically whether you can listen to multiple pairs of AirPods simultaneously connected to the same Apple TV, and the answer is unfortunately not at this time. It would be neat though.

Edit: If you're interested, here is info on a startup that's working to solve this issue. They are still in beta and have been for a while, and their claims have shifted since first I heard of them… not to mention their website has very little info and doesn't seem to have ever been updated. So we'll see if they manage a breakthrough in this area before Apple or someone beats them to it. I'm skeptical because it requires changes to the Bluetooth drivers on your device (basically a hack) and the chips themselves are limited in how fast they can transmit data, so I would expect it to rely on additional compression… Bluetooth audio is already a pretty lossy format so I can't imagine this sounding great, but would work in a pinch for watching TV at night and such, as OP suggested.

I know it's not advised by everyone here, but I was looking at a Samsung HTiB DVD system initially since it wouldn't require me to buy a receiver and amazon has a good price on it. Ideally I could use the tuner box to output to that. But if not, either this or [this] (http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX-4105-Stereo-Receiver-Black/dp/B0002EPWC0/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374288400&sr=1-14&keywords=Home+theater+receiver)

Linear PCM = PS4 does the encoding/decoding of the sound.

Bitstream = receiver does it.

Linear PCM is also uncompressed sound, While Bitstream DTS will be compressed. Technically, LPCM is the best choice... But to human ears, most at least, would be unable to decern the difference between the 2.

Great receiver btw. I have basically the Sony version of that. Got me 2 JBL Home Theater floor speakers ($400 each) along with some customer speakers in the back that I put 12" Xplode Subwoofers in. Thing kicks so much I actually just removed my subwoofer from the whole setup, as I was shaking things loose off the wall.

Mine ( http://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH520-Channel-Receiver-Black/dp/B004NHCGJO )
Speakers ( http://www.amazon.com/JBL-S312-Floorstanding-Speaker-Speakers/dp/B00002EQBR/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top ) bought them a while ago, but they still work perfectly.

Well if you're still offering some help id love some!

Im currently running a Audio Technica AT-LP60 with a Sony STRDH520 receiver. I was using some old Boston Acoustic speakers but they were totally shot so im using my old Logitech/THX speakers. Just the speakers from it because the sub broke a few years ago.

Im looking to get some new speakers and could use some advice/help finding some. Im willing to buy new or used, and my budget is max 300 dollars.

Craigslist

Thanks for your help in advance!

I think your best bet is to go with a 2011 Onkyo receiver like the TX-SR309, or the TX-NR509 (has network capabilities, too), and buy the speakers separate. I made my budget system for about $450, and I love it. I'm using it in a dorm room right now, so there's really no room for from speaker towers, so i just have four bookshelf speakers and a center channel, with a subwoofer of course. Look at the Onkyo or Pioneer receivers and some bookshelf speakers; I know a lot of people suggest these that you could use for surround or even the front speakers, too. The subwoofer I got was the Polk Audio PSW10 and its more than enough for what I need.

Hi everyone, im looking for advice on a receiver for the Elac Unfi UB5's. I know these are 4 ohm speakers and have been looking into the Denon AVR-X2300 and X3300W because of the "low impedance drive capability to easily handle 4 ohm speakers".

This is my first set up so I just want to make sure I'm not buying any mis-matching components. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Thanks

I have a small college apartment and am hoping to buy a starter system for no more than $300. I have an AirPort express as well as plenty of Apple products to make good use of the AirPlay.

I don't need anything fancy as long as it works, as I don't think its a big challenge to fill an apartment as small as mine with decently loud tunes. That being said the cheapest combination of speakers, receiver and subwoofer you have listed would already be over my budget. Can I survive without the woofer?

EDIT: I should have looked around this subreddit more, I am reading more in your thread about building a 2.0 into a 5.1

EDIT 2: I have further assessed the situation. You recommend this receiver as the starting point, however given my budget is a bit smaller, would this one work as well? I would then get the suggested Micca MB42X bookshelfs unless you think these ones might be better (I've seen them on sale for cheaper than the Micca so I'd just wait for the opportune moment). I'm definitely a beginner in the audiophile department, so I'm not sure how many different inputs I need, but I would be trying to connect this to the TV + cable box, 2 consoles, and the airport express.

I think you could do a little better for the money, especially if you stretched the budget to 500. But if it's for your parents, I'm not sure it even matters. For example, I would suggest the step up micca X(they have a crossover) and a dayton 10" sub instead.

If you don't want to spend more for the micca X, consider the Dayton b652 air for the same price.

I would also consider a denon reciever instead, onkyo can be confusing-especially since its for your parents.
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-1513-Receiver-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B007R8U5VM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7X2OW6/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1944687662&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B007R8U5VM&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1R1CXCJCZQSFBM3DQNSF

You could also save a few $ if you go to monoprice for your cables.

Here is a great guide to check your purchases.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/2usi5e/guide_surround_sound_51/

But I'm just nitpicking, overall I think you picked a decent setup.

I have a hand me down technics, and one of the cheaper models at that. I had to get a new cartridge but it has served me well.

I like to look at used equipment at record stores and thrift stores. Sometimes the old console ones with built in speakers are cool and funky. Those can also cause issues tho since the whole thing is going to vibrate with the music.

I guess it depends. The newer ones are usually with a usb out or bluetooth which is nice if you want to plug into a computer but i dont think you will get the same sound.

My preference is get a real record player with out a preamp, got a stereo mixer with an actual phone in and get some decent monitor speakers with a seperate woofer and tweeter. This is what I have, with the speakers being big ass old technics and the turntable the same. My old sony mixer died (again) and i opted to get a new sherwood 200 watt mixer that has a real phone in.

This one

i don't like the record players you usually see in stores with blu tooth and usb out, and I don't like to have to use a separate preamp, but really its all about what you can afford, what you already have to work with and your money.

Head on over to r/vinyl for advice. People can be snobby but there are lots of cool tech heads on there that can be friendly and knowledgeable. The import thing is to enjoy the music.

ah, yeah. the picture makes sense now on the listing.

so you get two, set one to transmit and one to receive.

https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Wireless/dp/B01KO1JNCA/

$60 for a pair, but never have to worry about batteries.

there may be cheaper options, but i think this type of setup is the best bet.

You could get something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX-4105-Stereo-Receiver-Black/dp/B0002EPWC0

You didn't list many details, but monoprice should have the correct combination of splitters. Better to just get a receiver or something though imo. Maybe find a used one on Ebay for $30-$50 or something? Plus you could easily hook up and drive some speakers and have FM radio too. The headphone port in the receiver also should be of a higher quality (hopefully).

If you can't come up with a combination of splitters / converters here, don't know what to tell ya:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10429

I’d keep the Yamahas and buy a receiver..........you will Like the Yamahas Much Better on a Decent receiver

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Audio-R-S202BL-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B01EMQI2CU

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH190-Stereo-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B078WFDR8D

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-R-N303BL-Stereo-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B074F246M9

Then if you want smaller speakers you can sell or trade the Yamaha’s for some bookshelves ——but if you buy new bookshelf speakers and put them on that Pyle it’ll still sound like shit........

Pyle Home Audio is Trash - this is coming from a Guy who runs a Pyramid amp and Sound Storm sub in his truck........... and a Samsung 5.1 HTIB 😳

If you Recently bought the Pyle (Like last 30 days) - Esp. from Amazon - return it.........

Oh you better believe that I shit myself when she walked into my room with them. I'm pumped to see how they sound when I do get something to play them with. I don't have a sound card, I was thinking about buying one, but when it came down to it, the 780 and i7 4770k sort of became more important over such when throwing parts together for my build. After scrounging for a bit I found the motherboard box. the board itself is a Asus Maximus VI Hero and it's equipped with ROG SupremeFX Audio 8- Channel High Definition Audio. I was looking around today at some pawn shops and came across a Denon AVR-1513 5.1 Channel 3D Pass Through Home Theater AV Receiver (Amazon link to one) for $150. I ended up not buying it cause I thought I should probably talk to someone who knows their stuff first. There was also something Harmon/Kardon, which I was guessing was a receiver but I couldn't see the back of it so I didn't really look. It was about $200 though.

and this is probably one of the best Bluetooth adapters, it also got a mic and the 70 dolar version is much better, but this one is also good: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D8K76F4/ref=twister_B07K65X5KB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

DACs can function over USB-C, though I know of no phone that supports that part of the USB standard. DACs do not function over Bluetooth or any wireless standard. You can, however, get a Bluetooth DAC such as this one I've been using recently and plug regular wired earbuds into it, but that totally negates the quality of your phone's internal audio solution. That doesn't mean every phone with Bluetooth will work equally well, as there's different Bluetooth codecs such as Apt-X or AAC with varying levels of quality which need to be supported both by the phone and receiver.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01E69LWWA/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1497795354&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=denon+receiver&dpPl=1&dpID=41hHiDRvTaL&ref=plSrch

I think this is a much better buy although it's a bit more expensive. Those super cheap receivers have terrible amp sections and their power tends to be overstated... Especially when running full surround

That Denon has 7 discrete amps that are more powerful and lower in noise and also has better auto calibration.

I'm in the market for a new receiver, as mine has been having issues for a while. I'm looking at this Sherwood RX5408, as it has both Bluetooth connectivity and a phono input. Most of the reviews are pretty promising, but a couple call the phono input subpar...does anybody have any experience with this receiver, or at least any input on it? Thanks!

thanks for the info,

after looking into it some more I believe you are right; I initially was against the idea since it seemed it would be more expensive and a out-of-the-box set seemed the easier choice. But as I investigated more I realize about ~$100 in a lot of those setups is wasted in a blu-ray player or something I would never need.

If you have the time could you please give me your opinion on this (I am looking at 7.1 receivers so if I want to upgrade/turn it into home theater in the future).

Receiver

I am still looking for good speakers, as I feel a lot of the "bookshelf" speakers a bit big for my computer... I am looking for sound quality over volume, are there any smaller speakers that can put out as much quality as the bookshelves? even if I lose max volume output?

Thanks

This is what I ended up getting, and it's pretty great. I almost always listen to music on my phone, which is doesn't have a 3.5mm port (I really dislike this trend), and the uBTR is a good way to still use my wired headphones.

https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-uBTR-Bluetooth-Wireless-Receiver/dp/B07D8K76F4

1. HDMI doesn't affect the audio, you'll still be able to plug everything in, you'll just have to use your TV to switch video inputs, no biggie.
   
   
2. That Yamaha looks like it's not very good, unless you're really bad with electronics and want the ease-of-use factor. Also, the last time I bought a new receiver for less than $200 I was amazed at just how bad the sound quality was, and how big an effect the amplifier has on the sound. Don't skimp.
   
   
3. Buy used if you can. I got a Yamaha 7.1 receiver that was just 2 years old for $175 on craigslist, and it's been the best I've ever had. You'll get much more for your money if you can find anything used; receivers do not go bad.
   
   
4. If you can't buy used, get as close to that $200 budget as you can, preferably increase it to $300, and just search for the model name plus "Reviews" in google, and do your research. Yamaha (good overall balance of quality, features, and value), Onkyo (probably the brand with the best prices), and Denon (best quality, slightly more expensive, and this one also has HDMI support) all have decent receivers in that price range. Stick to those brands. Do not buy a cheap Sony, they've really gone downhill.

And here is good price for Denon refurb 320 bucks best receiver according to wirecutter [Denon] (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S710W-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00ZIGUE8Y?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAJM4NKIQGABP2PIRA&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00ZIGUE8Y&tag=thewire06-20&ascsubtag=WC23349)

Future proof for 4k HDMI 2.0

EDIT or Onkyo TX-NR545 7.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver

As far as form factor and the number of HDMI inputs you described, this Marantz below is one of the only games in town that is any good I think:

http://www.amazon.com/Marantz-NR1403-5-1-channel-Theater-receiver/dp/B0081N916M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414072140&sr=8-1&keywords=NR1403

Going entirely wireless with any receiver that is worth it's salt is pretty much impossible. At the very least it is not recommended from what I've heard.

That's a very interesting mix of speakers you have collected. If possible I'd try and find something to match with the panasonic 3.1 to get a matching front stage and use either of the 2 surround sets. Also that receiver is pre-hdmi which makes connecting more complicated but not impossible. You need a source that has component/composite video out and coaxial out for surround sound unless you plan on doing pro-logic (not recommended). As for upgrading, I'd start with a modern receiver like the outgoing Denon AVR-E200.

As an example: 7 HDMI, Audyssey MultEQ XT room correction, adjustable crossover, plenty of power for most people, plus a ton of other features. It does lack a phono preamp. All the brands are similar on these features in the $500 range, which is the cost of the Cambridge. I know it feels like a waste to not use it for the surround, but at this price the surround receivers are a remarkably better value than the stereo ones due to the competition and economies of scale.

https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X2300W-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B01E69LWWA/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1502230347&sr=1-6&keywords=denon+receiver

I would go with a used Denon AVR if you can find it. Has just the right number of HDMI inputs, but will be near the top of your budget. Buying a 'factory refurbished' model would be ideal, but I'm not familiar with the availability outside the U.S.

Ok, due to your layout not being a typical rectangular layout, I'd defintelty get a receiver with at least Audyssey MultiEQ XT, so you can counter-act the layout.

Receiver: Denon X2200 for $390 + ~$10 shipping. It's a factory refurb, so 95% as good as new, but with a good discount ($545 new).

Fronts:

• HTD Level Three bookshelves in ebony + Center in ebony for $590.
  
  
• Klipsch RP-150M in cherry + Center in cherry for $630.
  
  You can watch Zeos' YouTube reviews (and sound demos if you want) of both bookshelves.
  
  Subwoofer: BIC F12 for $190.
  
  Surrounds: Depends on their placement.

I personally use the Vaux speaker for the dot. Sound is ok not great. Good enough for podcasts and kitchen music it uses the aux cable. I don't have an echo to compare sound quality. Having the battery powered dot and speaker is nice. I use it way more than expected. The Vaux also has an additional aux in for plugging in another device. Haven't had much use for the additional aux in.

I also got taotronics 4.0 Bluetooth receiver for my existing stereo in the adjoining room. Pretty cool that it has an optical out and can be paired with more than one device. I can then route the audio to the stereo by saying "Alexa connect to speaker".

The Oontz angle series speakers are bad, a bit boomy though. However it is an option.

Edit:
VAUX Cordless Home Speaker + Portable Battery for Amazon Echo Dot Gen 2 Black/Carbon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XH96736/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_1yTAzbSYJP74X

TaoTronics Bluetooth Transmitter and Receiver, Digital Optical TOSLINK and 3.5mm Wireless Audio Adapter for TV / Home Stereo System - aptX Low Latency https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KO1JNCA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_8zTAzbF2EVH3V

Cambridge SoundWorks OontZ Angle 3 Next Generation Ultra Portable Wireless Bluetooth Speaker : Louder Volume 10W+, More Bass, Water Resistant, Perfect Speaker for Golf, Beach, Shower & Home (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010OYASRG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jBTAzbE1FK2KG

I can attest to the Yamaha's, i just replaced a RX-V373 with RX-V379BL and its fantastic. This was after 5 years of owning the old one. The one you linked to is nice, id also suggest this Denon:
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S710W-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00ZIGUE8Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1453909996&sr=8-
3&keywords=denon+4k

Also look at this Yamaha - http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V677-7-2-channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B00ILCS182/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453910182&sr=8-1&keywords=4k+yamaha+7.2

What would you recommend for a receiver I would be cool spending up more. Preferably around $400 Anything better than this Marantz?

I’m assuming these headphones are Bluetooth. Many tv models from recent years have Bluetooth headphones support, so that might be the best option.
If not, most models don’t have a headphone out but do have an optical out. You can us something like this to convert and transmit the tv optical audio out to the headphones.

I actually just got the Polk Monitor II's myself for surrounds as well as the center channel. Haven't hooked them up yet, as I'm waiting for wires and banana plugs from monoprice.com (fyi, banana plugs wont fit in the bookshelf speakers if mounted on a wall). I'm running my re-foamed Advent Legacy III's up front.

I nabbed this Onkyo 5.1 system, and it is simply an amazing deal: http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR509-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B004O0TRCO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330751009&sr=8-1

The networking ability at this price is especially notable, as the Android/iPhone/iPod app is a fantastic tool to get a lot of music from your personal network as well as online. The receiver isn't a gorgeous piece of hardware like an HK, but you cannot beat the functionality at this price.

Hello there. Newbie here.

I'd like to build an HomeTheater/audio system with a budget around 1500$/€ - 2000$/€ (I'm in Italy)

What I need to connect:

• TV
  
• PS4
  
  What I would like to listen
  
  
• Radio (better with DAB)
  
• CD
  
• Bluetooth devices / Spotify
  
  I've probably found a starting point in the Denon AVR-X2200W but I have to connect it to a CD and some speakers (best option 2 speakers + subwoofer otherwise only 2 speakers).
  
  Can you help on configuring it?
  
  

I have a secondary system in my living room (Bifrost/CTH + HD600 & PM-3 atm), I drag out the 1/4" extension when I'm alone or just listening to music on a lounge chair at the far end... And I opt for BT whenever I'm watching TV and need to use headphones. Lag becomes more of a priority when doing that cause having audio out of sync sucks.

For that reason, I'm using a MEE transmitter (with optical input) along with a Fiio BTR1 I bought on a whim at one point... They both support AptX-LL which should minimize lag at the expense of some SQ. If it was strictly for music I'd grab my EarStudio ES100 tho, which is what I use for listening to music on the go with IEM and on ears. It has a nicer analogs stage, LDAC support, a useful app, etc. I'm not sure if there's any transmitters with LDAC support yet but the ES100 does AptX HD too. Really useful device, can be used as a USB DAC too.

Depending on how much space you have, you might want to look into getting bookshelf speakers like these and placing them on your desk, slightly elevated. You'll also need a receiver to drive them like this which would work well.

People here are going to have a hard time ever recommending a home-theater-in-a-box like the ones you mention. They tend to have bad quality to price ratios and are rarely worth the money. Impolitely: the Polk system is likely garbage.

At a budget of $400, it's a little difficult to do 5.1. I'd actually recommend going 2.1 for now. You'll get much better performance and sound imaging (the goal of a surround system) out of 2.1 good speakers than 5.1 cheap ones. As your budget increases, you can easily add surround that will blow away the systems you mention.

Ideas:

Receiver

Subwoofer

Speakers

or tower speakers if you want better, bigger speakers that don't need a sub

Another Denon is my answer. Either the E400 or X2000 (love these new model numbers.. lol) depending on your networking needs.

On my 92" projection screen, for center, I have a pair of Dayton B652's. One above and one below the screen. It isn't usually a recommended practice since you can get cancellation if the distance from each speaker to the viewer's ear is off but since I am me and a bit OCD it comes off rather well. You get a defined middle of the screen image without an audio transparent screen and the pair easily keep up with the rest of the system which might soon be changed out anyway.

Thanks for your reply, I'll definitely look into those. What are your thoughts on these speakers with this receiver

You need a receiver like this or this for the headphones and a transmitter like this (USB) or this (Optical) for the PC

If I have a receiver that has a phono pre-amp, would there be any advantage of purchasing an actual pre-amp to add to the collection?

My ultimate goal here is to do some sort of system upgrade around Xmas. Any constructive feedback is welcome.

Current setup:

• Turntable Fluance RT-81
  
• Cartridge Denon DL-110
  
• Receiver Yamaha R-N303BL
  
• Speakers Ascend Accoustics Sierra-2
  
  Edit: formatting

The bluetooth splitter would be something like: bluetooth receiver -> TOSLINK splitter -> 3x bluetooth transmitter

Note that some bluetooth transmitters can pair with multiple receivers:
https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Transmitter-HomeSpot-Headphones-Simultaneously/dp/B00QV77YIC/

The above components have not been tested together for your described application. I suspect latency and double compression could be ugly.

There are probably better BT transmitters and receivers, and you might save the TOSLINK splitter with an SPDIF splitter (four RCA cables with their cores soldered together, and their shields/grounds soldered together) if the BT receiver and transmitters support SPDIF.

You might be able to fix this for even cheaper than my other solution. You just need a receiver with outputs. This one might work and is cheaper than the other:
http://www.amazon.com/Marantz-NR1403-5-1-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0081N916M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1419658835&sr=8-2&keywords=home+theater+preamp

This one might work too for even cheaper, also with room to grow:
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V375-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B00B981F38/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419658942&sr=8-1&keywords=receiver

You could go even cheaper if you buy one for stereo, but you said you eventually wanted to upgrade to surround sound. Both of these options will give you room to grow into surround and you can keep using the AV-30s. I would pick a Yamaha Aventage receiver. I've liked them enough that I'm going to buy the Aventage preamp for my home theater.

I'm no expert when it comes to audio so be gentle but if it's just the audio you're really after woudln't some kind of wireless technology work for your needs? e.g. bluetooth connectivity on the custom desktop and some bluetooth enabled headphones? Maybe even some type of DECT device.

Range is usually the issue with these types of devices - maybe that's a factor?

Something like this too;

https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Wireless-Receiver/dp/B01H6I3YGK

Or if budget isn't really a concern some Sono devices allow you to plug a laptop output into their devices; https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop

Just a thought.

Small and cheap won't put out the sound you want in a cafe. I would suggest getting a receiver. You can connect by auxiliary, Bluetooth, or plug a flash drive into the denon models I have seen. You could probably find a used one for 200 or less depending on features. Then you can connect any speakers you want. Up to 5.

Something like this http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007L8Q75G/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1413453674&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70

Or this http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00M3NZDT0?cache=820a7785255f49d45f3542f80c1f2966&pi=SX200_QL40&qid=1413453726&sr=8-3#ref=mp_s_a_1_3

This is the most recommended if u can find it in stock http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JR6GJLW/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_11?colid=25PKQCCBPVIPQ&coliid=I88NLVPGQ7IZ1

Then some speakers like this to start
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0018QNYVM?cache=820a7785255f49d45f3542f80c1f2966&pi=SX200_QL40&qid=1413453934&sr=8-3#ref=mp_s_a_1_3

Or some bookshelf speakers if you want something bigger but possibly cheaper. Hit up your local Craigslist first though. People usually sell their whole system at once. Or look for a used receiver and speakers.

Trying to connect a 5.1 home theater type set of speakers to a pc is easiest using a 5.1 Receiver.

Using the Lepai you would basically have power and volume control for 2 speakers per unit.

What you need for the speakers you have is something like this. You connect all of your speakers to this, along with any inputs (pc, ipod, tv, etc).

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-R-N303BL-Stereo-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B074F246M9

WIFI + MusicCast app

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I can't vouch for the quality of this product but here's another budget friendly speaker selector with a different terminal type:

https://www.amazon.com/ISS8-8-Channel-Selector-Impedance-Protection/dp/B001YIPCJQ

Looks like you did a nice job, but you bought junk. That thing has to take a digital BT signal and output analog, which means it has a DAC and preamp. Both are probably crap, and idk what level BT it has either.

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What you should look for is a decent BT 4.1 adapter with AptX, and ideally with an output that is not meant for headphones (might end up over-driving your HU)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D8K76F4

I did something like that in my old car, but removed the battery and wired in 5V and analog audio from the useless 30 pin iPod dock the car had (too much high and low temperature for lithium batteries). Was all hidden in the center console. Worked fine, but wished I had used a better unit (like this FiiO, at least)

Saved up and increased my budget a little I am looking at the Yamaha RX-V677 vs the RX-V579

Comparison Chart

The 677 has a little bit more power, more input options and is new VS refurbished.

I just purchased this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004O0TRCO

It's the best receiver under $300 that I have found, and if you decide to add two surround sound speakers, you're covered.

Cool thanks, also just saw this on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B981F1U/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I mounted one of these (optical to bluetooth) to the back of my XBR-X600D when i found out I couldn't use bluetooth headphones with the built in bluetooth function (THANKS SONY).

Works like a charm with optical.

I found this on Amazon:

• Denon AVR-S710W
  
  It's $380, so it's the same price and it's in new condition. What you linked were both refurbished AVRs. Though they're at a great price / discount, I'd prefer to purchase a new AVR. Seems to offer more features than the Sony AVRs I have listed.

What: Integrated Amp OR Stereo Amplifier

Critieria:

• Around $100
  
• Vintage or new, I don't mind
  
• Dedicated subwoofer output (preferably with a separate volume knob)
  
• Around 100W per channel, but I could go lower since it's just a bedroom setup (for reference, I have these bookshelf speakers)
  
• Headphone output (3.5mm or 1/4inch is fine, since I have a few adapters lying around)
  
• Little to no DIY required
  
  Thanks in advance, and sorry for my ignorance. I am really new to this.
  
  Edit: This is what I have currently. I like it a lot, but theres no good way to hook up a sub.
  
  This is the first upgrade in a line of improving my set-up. After I get a good amp, I'll get an appropriate sub, then I'll upgrade my LP60 to something a little more customizable.

I understand why you would want to listen to music in headphones but why bother with vinyl? Your analog signal will be converted to digital anyways on it's way to the headphones so you might as well just use a computer, iphone, etc. If you just want to use headphones there are lots of great, inexpensive wired models to choose from.

But, if you must stubbornly listen to records through bluetooth headphones despite it being totally counterproductive, this will work.
https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Speakers/dp/B01H6I3YGK/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8&qid=1493082049&sr=8-24&keywords=bluetooth+transmitter

It's a receiver like chromecast audio but supports airplay. RIVERSONG Wireless DLNA Airplay Music Receiver Adapter with TuneIn iHeartRadio Spotify for Apple iOS Android - Multi Room Streaming for Different Songs (AudioCast) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HFYZDNC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ZfQ3xbK8AS6SA

Dug around and found a 3.5mm to RCA converter, so I'll use that for now until I have the cash for a receiver. Looking around Amazon I saw this
Sony and this Denon.

The Sony seems like a better choice, or am I missing something?

If you go with samsung avoid the onkyo receivers. I had major compatibility issues. I'm a fan of denons. I put together a little shopping list for you:

[Speakers] (http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-PK52FS-Theater-Speaker-Package/dp/B00IK8I9K2/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&qid=1463872417&sr=8-21&keywords=atmos+speakers) $550
[television] (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-65-class-64-5-diag--led-2160p-smart-3d-4k-ultra-hd-tv-silver/5184121.p?id=1219646565339&skuId=5184121) $2000
[receiver] (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S710W-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00ZIGUE8Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463873137&sr=8-1&keywords=denon+s710w) $379

I'm not usually one for warranties but I recommend for the tv; I've been burnt before.

The "open" solution would be DLNA audio pucks like these:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HFYZDNC/

Don't expect the experience to be as seamless as Sonos or Chromecast.

Can you ELI5 the difference between the Denon x4000 and these 2 receivers, which are highly rated but much, much less expensive? THanks

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-STR-DH740-Channel-Receiver-Black/dp/B00BHC7ZTE

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V675-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B00B981F1U/ref=sr_1_1?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=undefined&sr=1-1&keywords=receivers

There are quite a number of devices that claim to support Airplay on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Airplay-RIVERSONG-Receiver-iHeartRadio/dp/B01HFYZDNC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1483648604&sr=8-3&keywords=airplay+receiver

https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Wireless-Audio-Receiver-Connect/dp/B01AYATASS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1483648604&sr=8-6&keywords=airplay+receiver

I just don't know how good either of these are.

Why Just an integrated its easier to get a stereo receiver.

Yamaha RN303BL $269.95


TechnicalPro RX55UrIBT$139.99

Cambridge SR10 receiver$299.99

TechnicalPro DV4000 DVD/CD receiver $199.99

Harman Kardon HK 3700 2-Channel Stereo Receiver with Network Connectivity $349.95

Onkyo A9110 integrated $287.56

Yamaha AS301BL integrated amp $309.96

Cambridge Audio AM5 $100.00

It's going to be running a TV in the main room, but all the other zones will just be Audio...

Here's my thought right now... I'm going to purchase a 7.2 Amp http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V677-7-2-channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B00ILCS182/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1458834140&sr=8-6&keywords=yamaha+amplifier

Everything will run into that.

I'm going to try and put the speaker selector on the powered Zone-2 output of that. This should let me play the same music in every room. I'm not sure if the powered output will be enough to power all 4 zones at once?

If not I'm thinking I'll take the non-powered zone-2 output and run it into this: http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=109&cp_id=10918&cs_id=1091801&p_id=14524&seq=1&format=2

Then i'll hook each zone into that and I believe it should work?

I'm never going to use AM/FM. And Wi-Fi/BT isn't a concern as long as it has an AUX input for an Echo Dot. I feel like i'm going overkill with some of these receivers.
Tell me which to go with and I'll pull the trigger. There's way too many options for my brain at this point. I want it to power my speakers so I can connect via phone & also connect to my turntable. TV isn't a priority - if I can just connect an Aux or RCA cord when watching a show I'm set with that.

Stereo Receivers:
[Cambridge Topaz SR20]
(https://www.ebay.com/p/8016312414?iid=253274315396&chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=253274315396&targetid=541454022652&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9001989&poi=&campaignid=6470552628&mkgroupid=81274342767&rlsatarget=aud-412677883135:pla-541454022652&abcId=1139336&merchantid=6296724&gclid=CjwKCAjwxaXtBRBbEiwAPqPxcKn72GWACnqpdxaxApzQ8SiiN32q_fXw-JnzSNDBM6FNKxDsa3AfPhoCvQ4QAvD_BwE) - $200
Yamaha R-N303BL - $165 Used

AMP / Phono:
Dayton apa150 - $155
SMSL SA50 50Wx2 - $67
SMSL SA100 - $75

Pluto Phono - $85-100 Used/New

Two words "source upscaling"

You want an AV receiver that will upscale analog video sources like RCA and Component video to 1080p HDMI.

This (or something like it) is your ticket.

Unfortunately Display port is going to be a thorn in your side unless you are willing to get an adapter to go from DP to HDMI. Here is one with audio

You will also need an SCART to RCA adapter

All of these put together are available for under $400. All prime eligible. It will give you:

5 HDMI inputs (one of which for DP adapter, another for DVI adapter)

2 RCA inputs (one of which for SCART adapter)

1 Component video input

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HFYZDNC/

Reviews seem alright. Airplay 1 for sure.

did u try the fiio one? Seem to be good also and half the price
https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-BTR1-Bluetooth-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B075YD83Y9/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1526394350&sr=8-11&keywords=fiio

Getting a ProJect Debut Esprit soon, and i was wondering if this amplifier would work/sound good with it? It has phono built in so I wouldn't need a preamp right? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I just wanted to make sure.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074F246M9/?coliid=I3GAQZVZMF90WJ&colid=37HOCQFUNYQGD&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Used depends on your local market. For new there are a few options such as the Onkyo TX-8020 for $150 or Sherwood RX4508 for $128. There are probably a few more that you could find through searching as well. The probably with new receivers with phono inputs for that price is that the inputs aren't the best quality and you might do better with an external preamp. You could buy a new receiver for $120-150 and then drop $50-100 on an external preamp. Anyways, those are two I know of with phono inputs. I've seen the Onkyo recommended around here a few times.

I use this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D8K76F4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_BX1bHf1HFXqWa

I need to find some short good earbuds though.

An AVR will work for all of these directly, if you run your PC's HDMI through it. If you stick with USB for PC sound, you'll also want a USB sound card to connect the PC, and you can connect them to a stereo receiver rather than an AVR. The sound card could also be a DAC, or a lot of receivers have built in DACs that accept digital audio.

So AVR, or USB sound card and receiver (stereo or AV).

https://smile.amazon.com/Yamaha-R-N303BL-Stereo-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B074F246M9/

https://smile.amazon.com/Signstek-Coaxial-Converter-Convert-Analogue/dp/B00FEDHHKE/

I like your first suggestion I have been looking at this receiver
and
these speakers

I don't think that I've ever seen a BT receiver that can act as a USB host but BT receivers with TOSLINK out are not hard to find:

• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KX3DQXM
  
• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KO1JNCA
  
• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QV77YIC
  
  As /u/ruinevil suggested though, the TOSLINK out of an Airport Express and AirPlay would be preferable. Chromecast Audio as well if you're not going to use iTunes.

After shipping if it comes close to $200 you might as well get the 509 for under $200 at amazon warehouse deals shipped.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B004O0TRCO/ref=mw_dp_olp

Any reason you are considering the Denon 920W over the X2300W? One nice piece is it has MultEQ XT over the plain MultEQ.

https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X2300W-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B01E69LWWA

Just spray a whole can of axe on it bro and you'll be good to go!

...but really, this could work for you. Or, make an investment and buy a receiver with upconversion, Mmmmm

FiiO μBTR uBTR HiFi Bluetooth Wireless Receiver with aptX/AAC/SBC Support, Portable Mini Music Audio Receiver for Home TV,Speaker,Car Stereo,NFC Pairing, 9-Hour Battery Life ... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D8K76F4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_.pSxDb3TXE938

Someone talk me into/out of the Yamaha RX-V675 on Amazon for a new setup. Likely pairing with some Klipsch Reference bookshelf speakers and a phono pre-amp... Just seems like that price point will be really hard to beat with the future to think of.

There are some options out there, like this Marantz.

But there's already devices like this that are much simpler and powered by micro usb:

Airplay Receiver, RIVERSONG Wireless Music Receiver Wifi Music Streaming Receiver DLNA Airplay Adapter Wifi Audio Receiver, Wireless Audio and Music to Speaker System Multi Room Streaming https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HFYZDNC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_IkoOzbT6W3374

Something like this guy: https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Wireless/dp/B01KO1JNCA

I will be getting a new receiver. Probably a Yamaha rx-v677, as I don't want to spend more than $400. Something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V677-7-2-channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B00ILCS182/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1458132798&sr=8-2&keywords=yamaha+amplifier+receiver

Total Budget for the speakers themselves I'd like to target under $600. So no more than $1000 for the entire system.

The Denon AVR-1513
http://amzn.com/B007R8U5VM

Edit: Sorry about that, I suppose it does support both of these. But what about DTS HD or DTS HD HR?

I was thinking of a Denon, 7 channels and I can play with audyssey. https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S710W-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00ZIGUE8Y/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1481346162&sr=1-2&keywords=denon+receiver

Some websites rate this as the best transmitter because of its low latency, but I have not tried it! https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Speakers/dp/B01H6I3YGK/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1504726148&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=bluetooth+transmitter&psc=1

More like this
(Not necessarily recommending the model but it will get the iob done) if you want to go cheap then look for used 'receivers' in your area.

[You could use this](Wireless HDMI Transmitter and Receiver,PAKITE 5G Wireless HDMI Extender for TV Audio Video,1080P Full HD 3D AV Sender with IR Remote Control Support 492FT Transmission for Projector Monitor Home Use https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SR2X7QM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_THErDbC7TVSJK) for hdmi

[Or this](Avantree Long Range Bluetooth Transmitter Receiver for TV & PC, Wireless Audio Adapter Extender for Home Stereo Speakers, aptX Low Latency, Dual Link, Voice Guide, Digital Optical AUX RCA - Oasis https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H6I3YGK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_iLErDbQQGSX75) for optical out

In my experience you really want to avoid wireless if at all possible. It generally adds complexity,and inevitably becomes a head ache down the road.

Best bet is to run a wire hidden in the trim to the location it needs to plug into.

This is what I have in my home and I couldn't be happier-

Receiver-https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZIGUE8Y?ref=emc_b_5_t

Speakers-https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-PK52FS-Theater-Speaker-Package/dp/B00IRH0QMA/ref=sr_1_23?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1485682123&sr=1-23&keywords=pioneer%2Bpackage&th=1

I have a MartinLogan sub but it's not available on Amazon right now so you could either get the slightly more expensive speaker package with the sub included or look at something like the Dayton 1000 or 1200.

Receiver plus 5.1 set will cost just under $1000. I really can't recommend the Pioneers enough. I just replaced a Infinity Primus set I had and even thought the Pioneers are cheaper, the sound so much better, especially with movies.

Edit: Would this receiver work well?

• Denon-AVR-S710W