1. Tent: Eagles Peak II Two person tent - http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=50802926
   -This was generous gift from my SO's mom. It may not be the best tent out there, but at free it can't be beat.
   
   
2. Sleeping Bag: Marmot Aspen Minimalist 40 - http://www.trailspace.com/gear/marmot/aspen-40-ultralight/
   -Got this for its small size and light weight. Future winter camping trips are a possibility, in which case I plan on snagging a wool blanket of sleeping bag liner.
   
   
3. Sleeping Pad: RidgeRest Classic - http://www.amazon.com/Therm-A-Rest-6433-Parent-RidgeRest-Classic-Mattress/dp/B00HZ13OYG
   -Simple basic sleeping pad, I've been using these since scouts and have wanted for nothing more, especially because of its light weight.
   -In the event of winter camping, is this enough to insulate from the ground? If not, what could be added to my sleep system to keep me insulated from the ground?
   
   
4. Cookware: Pot Pan stackable combo - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FQZEYWE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
   -Lightweight and simple, these were cheap and seemed straight forward.
   -They stack with the majority of either piece's empty space facing each other, allowing for decently dry storage for matches etc. inside.
   -Comes with a tight fitting mesh ditty bag
   
   
5. Small Camp Grill - Coghlan's Camp Grill - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OPHA0S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Another straight forward and cheap piece,
   -This is really an optional piece, I plan on bringing it along on trips with big groups or when cooking meat is in the cards.
   
   
6. Plates x2: Coleman Enamel plates - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009PUSPI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -These are the camping gold standard in my book, been using them since scouts.
   
   
7. Stuff Sacks x3: REI pack of 3 Ditty Sacks 2, 3, and 7 liter. -http://www.rei.com/product/795047/rei-ditty-sack-package-of-3
   -Came in a decently affordable combo pack, plan on using them for food/toiletries storage and bear bags.
   
   
8. Knife: Morakniv Companion Straight Knife - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Love this little knife, cheap but durable and was a shaver straight out of the box.
   -Came with a super thick plastic sheath
   
   9)Hatchet: Estwing Hatchet - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Heard this was a classic, people say they've still got the one's their grandfather's used. It's heavy, but I'm happy with the tradeoff.
   -Got it sharpened well enough to cleanly slice through paper at the moment
   
   
9. Axe Sharpener: Lansky Dual Grit Sharpener - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8FW0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
   -Great sharpener, pretty much the go to field sharpener from what I've gathered.
   -Only took a couple minutes to learn how to use, the only hard part is consistently following the bevel through each stroke, but it gets easier.
   
   
10. Camp Towels x2: Microfiber quick-drying towels - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8FW0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
    -Very great, medium size towels with their own tote
    
    
11. Collapsible Water Jug: REI 2.5 gallon collapsible water jug - http://www.rei.com/product/402099/reliance-fold-a-carrier-water-carrier-25-gal
    -Seems great, picked it up at REI physical store then read reviews and got spooked, we'll see though, a minority of the reviewers swear by it.
    -Just in case it sucks, any suggestions for a collapsible water container of equal size/price?
    
    
12. Water Bags x2: 33 oz Bag style canteens - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010OLZ3E2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
    -These came free with my water filter, and they have many good reviews. If they do well, I may buy some extras.
    
    
13. Wine Skin: 2L - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CN4RN42?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
    -More showing of my primitivist ass, and I thought I could take some weight off of my SO by carrying enough water for the two of us.
    
    
14. Pillows x2: Field and Stream - http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=33581126
    -Got these a long time ago when I knew less, they are pretty bulky and my first item I want to replace
    
    
15. Pack: Kelty Redwing 50L Black
    -SO's mom gifted this this Christmas, so amazing and thoughtful, one of the best gifts I've ever gotten and I love the color
    
    
16. Shoes: Skechers Trail Runners - I found these at the thrift store for a stunning 12 bucks and they fit perfectly
    
    
17. Lighting: Outlite Lantern -http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01178FLM0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
    -Pack of flashlights (might not bring all four) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V639BNC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01
    
    
18. Extras: Tarp as groundcloth, some extra stakes.
    
    Items not shown:
    -Always a tin or bag of Drum Tobacco and papers
    -Kindle, old generation one
    -Collapsible trowel
    -Paracord
    -Burlap shoulder bag for gathering kindling etc
    
    Items still wanted (suggestions greatly appreciated):
    -Knife for SO
    -Work gloves
    -Plastic flasks for booze
    -Belt pouch
    -Higher quality tarp
    -Knife Sharpener
    -Sleeping bag liner or wool blanket
    -Any food suggestions!
    -Rain cover for pack
    -Smell proof food bags
    
    I don't have much experience outside of scouts, so I'm very open to critique of my setup. I will warn that I am very much into primitivism, and camping for me is a gateway to a backcountry, esthetic lifestyle I one day I hope to live, so some of my gear choices may not always be the most efficient. Any advice from a primitivist or purist standpoint is doubly appreciated.
    
    

I've recently bought a lot of this stuff after doing a good amount of research. Here are my recommendations:

Tent - I would get an Alps tent if you want a good value tent but aren't as worried about weight. How many people will you be going with?

Sleeping Bag - I have this sleeping bag which I absolutely love, but I haven't been able to find it online since I bought it. It packs as small as down sleeping bags but costs a fraction of the price and will still keep you warm in 30 degree weather (which it's done for me).

Pack - I just bought the Osprey Volt 75L which I think is a great value even though I haven't used it yet. I got it for $140 on amazon and the 60L version is less expensive than that. I'm not sure if this pack is bulletproof but it has great reviews and Osprey products are known for their high quality.

Cooking- I use this pot which works perfectly with a pocket rocket. I'm not sure what you mean by fire making equipment but if it's not below freezing or at a high altitude, the gas canisters are the most efficient and reliable way to cook food. Also, they're extremely light. If you're using a fire to cook you'll need a heavier duty pot/pan.

Clothes - I just look for good deals and buy when I find one. Get a good shell that's waterproof and breathable. I have a Marmot Nano AS Jacket that I love. Just make sure you have a baselayer that wicks sweat away and other layers that can pack down. DON'T USE ANY COTTON CLOTHES!

Tools - Other than a knife I have found any tools that are useful for their weight. If you have a solid knife you should be good.

Misc - Here's other things in my list for camping/backpacking:

Sleeping Pad - I use the Alps Sleeping Pad. You definitely need a sleeping pad if you're camping in colder weather for the insulating properties. You'll lose a significant amount of heat through the cold hard ground without a pad. The Alps pad is a little heavier but they're very durable and a great value.

Paracord - It's always useful to have paracord for different things.

Water Filter - You need this if you're going to the backcountry. It's not realistic to bring enough water with you for a weeklong trip. I have use this MSR water filter and the Sawyer Squeeze. The MSR filter costs more, but works very well and is fairly durable. The Sawyer Filter weighs almost nothing, but it's a little more difficult to use and definitely more difficult if you're trying to filter large quantities of water.

Not everyone will agree with everything on my list, but I try to find the best value in my gear. I look for the best value in terms of price, quality, weight, and packability. There are higher quality options that weigh less but cost more. There are other lower quality options that cost less. You'll have to decide what your balance is, but this should be a good list to get you started.

There are a lot of really cool camping things! I'll be back to edit this post on my computer with some things that we like / are unique /cool

EDIT - these are things that we use that we love. These things all range in price, so hopefully you can find one or two to fit whatever budget you have.

• Collapsible Coffee Dripper : They can use this to make REAL coffee on the trail. They just have to heat water!
  
• Portable camping grill : This takes a little time to set up, but it's a very compact grill and makes it easy to cook food or even just balance your mess kit
  
• Nonstick camping mess kit : A nonstick kit is much easier to clean than a stainless steel one IMO. this set has a kettle, utensil, and scrubber which is awesome.
  
• Camp Suds : An environmentally safe soap so they can clean their gear but preserve the trail!
  
• Dry sacks : Dry sacks are just what they sound like... waterproof bags that keep your stuff dry. They can also double as a pillow if you stuff clothes in them!
  
• Portable camping stove : This little guy connects to a small fuel canister and gives you a nice little stove. These are great for heating water / soup as they provide a better heat source than a fire you'd build.
  
• Food dehydrator : This is not something they'd take camping, but it can really help them to save money on meals. If they are backpacking, they likely won't want to carry around cans of food and won't be able to carry around ingredients that would go bad. The dehydrator allows them to make their own backpacking meals that they will reconstitute with water.
  
• Pocket bellows : allows you to stoke the fire without having to get your face super close. Also this lets you target a small area.
  
• LED light bulb ; This does require a portable battery but it's really great to have this little guy. We use it in the tent at night or when we're hanging out but need a little light to chop food/etc.
  
• Pocket chain saw : Cut big pieces of wood! It takes some muscle, but it really does work and it's a lot smaller than a hatchet or actual chain saw..
  
• Literally the best backpacking chair : when you're backpacking, you have to carry EVERYTHING with you. So that means that stuff has to be light and small. These chairs are great, because (for chairs) they tick off both of those boxes. They have a back! And they are big enough to actually sit on!
  
  Other general items that are useful: Climbing/heavy duty carabiners (to clip stuff to other stuff. you can even get locking ones); water filters (if you get a Lifestraw, I recommend the water bottle. The actual Lifestraw is an interesting idea, but we've found in practice it's a little awkward); hammocks with nice straps; base layers; battery-operated lights of any kind (especially ones that clip or are hands-free); a set of waterproof cards (to pass the time on a break); nice, wicking socks; hiking poles; a camping knife.
  
  I haven't tried Cairn (the camping sub box) but they always look interesting.
  

You'll need to list a budget if you want valuable advice. Like most camping gear - these items can go for a wide range of prices / quality. You generally get what you pay for - so the bigger budget the better quality.

Are you shopping in the USA or abroad? Online or local shops? Different areas have different brands available.

When / where will you do the majority of your camping? Don't need to list the specific parks - but a general idea of the temps and terrain you'll be using this equipment would be idea. Warm beaches or snowy mountains, Windy plains or thick forests, etc.

You said car / base style camping - that's a valuable distinction. Backpacking / wilderness style gear would be very different.

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Tent - 4-person tent for 2 people is best for car camping, you could even go higher for more room/comfort.

Stove - a 2-burner propane stove would be ideal. Coleman brand is classic.

Lantern - a propane lantern is old-school, but bright / effective. I'd probably go with a battery powered option though, easier to deal with.

cookware - tons of options here. You could start by going to your local Thrift Store. Get the basics, they even have cast iron there often. Then get a plastic tub to store it all in - as your kitchen kit grows it will be valuable to store it all together for transport.

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Without knowing the answers to my above questions, I'll throw out some basic gear options for you to check out:

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Tent

• https://www.rei.com/product/894015/rei-co-op-kingdom-4-tent
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Sundome-4-Person-Tent-Green/dp/B004J2GUOU
  
  There are other top brands, but the REI one is good quality for the cost. The Coleman one is cheap, but highly popular and good enough for most. Kind of 2 ends of the spectrum there.
  
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  Stove
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Stove-Ppn-BRN-Triton/dp/B00VTJGWNU
  
  This one really is the standard, I don't recommend any other option personally.
  
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  Lantern
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Northstar-Propane-Lantern-Case/dp/B00HUG7OZQ
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Portable-Camping-Flashlights-Batteries/dp/B00XM8HTIS
  
• https://www.amazon.com/rechargeable-camping-batteries-EdisonBright-Batteries/dp/B01HB4WK3M
  
  Tons of options in the battery category. Might as well start cheap and see if it works well enough. I rarely even use my lantern anyway. I sit by the fire or use my headlamp. Better to invest in a good headlamp I'd say.
  
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  Cookware
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Adventure-Base-Stainless-Steel/dp/B01MTFIMUC
  
• https://www.amazon.com/GSI-Outdoors-Superior-Backcountry-Cookware/dp/B006ERSCNA
  
  Kits are a good way to get started. Then add single items like tongs, knives, wash buckets, etc. as needed. I really do suggest using items from the thrift store whenever possible. That way you don't care if it gets dinged up or burnt while camping.

Me and my friends hike in the ozarks once or twice a year. Actually we're going down there March 30th - April 2nd for my bachelor party, just doing an easy loop around the Council Bluff Lake. We're going to span it out over a few days to leave more time for drinking and shenanigans. But typically we try to do a new section each time we go out. What section are you doing? Bell Mountain is a good one if you're looking. Quite a bit of elevation change for a missouri trail, but some nice sights along the way. But then if you're only staying one night, you might not have time for a section that includes Bell Mountain. Maybe you should consider the Council Bluff Lake trail too. It's supposed to be a really easy section, 12.5 miles and relatively flat. Water access from the lake at all times (get a filter of some kind) and could be done in one day if you needed to. Camping only allowed more than 500 feet from shore FYI.

Okay, for your real question, gear.
-Get a water filter (I have the MSR Sweetwater Microfilter, it's awesome) that way you know you can get water if you need it and it will be clean

-it seems ridiculous, but I really recommend you get some trekking poles. They help immensely.
-Get some good waterproof boots. Splurge on some good hiking boots if you think you're going to keep hiking. Your feet will thank you. nothing more miserable than being 10+ miles from civilization with blistered and bloody feet.
-A headlamp. Seriously useful for when the sun goes down. Doesn't have to be fancy.
-What are you doing for food? For a one day trip, you probably won't need much, but consider picking up a cheap backpacking stove. I can vouch for this one and you'll need to buy a canister of iso/butane fuel. The fuel is best and way cheaper to buy in a store. Just check out Bass Pro or something.
-A lightweight pot like this one to cook in. It's perfect size and incredibly light. Don't forget utensils if you need them. And consider bringing some bags of tea. It's amazing how nice a hot cup of tea is in this scenario.
-Lightweight food, like Mountain House freezedried food is awesome for backpacking, but expensive.
-Take a lightweight pocket knife. Doesn't need to be fancy, just a basic cutting edge.
-Water bladders or nalgenes to pump your water into. I will usually use a 3L Platypus bladder for bulk storage and then a 1 or 2L camelbak with a drinking tube to drink while I'm walking. Depending on water availability, of course. If there is frequent water availability, I carry less. Water is HEAVY.
-Take some kind of rain gear if you think it might rain, along with a rain cover for your backpack. Being soaked in the cold is miserable. And not being able to get warmed up because your tent and sleeping bag are soaked can even be dangerous.
-Take a spare pair of dry clothes to wear at night at your campsite along with some flip flops or something. Believe me, you'll want to be able to take your boots off but still walk around the campsite.
-Bring gloves and a hat. Bring at least one pair of spare socks
-Bring a basic first aid kit
-some way to start a fire. I use those long bic lighters for bbqs. Also I cheat with those esbit firestarter cubes when it's wet
-Print off a copy of the the map for the trail you're following and laminate it

Things I discovered that all newbies buy but after the first trip realize they don't need:
-A saw
-An axe
-One of those red plastic mallets to drive in tent stakes
-A giant knife
-A Machete
-A camping chair
-Battery charger
-Solar powered everything (okay, a solar lamp or something might be okay if you want to carry the weight)
-A bunch of paracord


I don't know, I'm sure I missed some stuff, but I'm bored and excited about my upcoming trip and thought I'd ramble off a few things. Hope you have fun!

Lantern- The Luci is nice... but it's good to have light that's not dependent on solar, especially if you're camping where there's a lot of tree cover. Might not be a problem for a weekend. Another thing is that most LED lanters put out a harsh white light; there's a version of the Luci that's "warm white" which I haven't seen yet. I prefer much warmer light when relaxing in the evening, candles or propane lantern on low.

Kettle/pot - does this include stove? I've got a Jetboil and love it for car camping and just having in the trunk for autumn/winter hikes. I don't bring it backpacking because I have lighter options for just boiling water. If you want to cook, you may want to consider a stove like the MSR Pocket Rocket 2.

https://adventuresinstoving.blogspot.com/2016/12/review-new-msr-pocket-rocket-2.html

You can buy some $15 anodized aluminum cooksets on Amazon. Haven't tried myself but I've heard good things. You can bring utensils from home if you want to save money... but when you start backpacking and eating freeze dried meals from the bag, a long handled spoon will be the most useful.

Power bank; I posted about power banks. Quickly- many people like Anker. A power bank will give you about 80% efficiency, so a 13000 mAh battery will give about 10400 mAh to your device. If you've got an iPhone 6 that's over 5 full charges from zero.

Dishwashing setup - well, depends on how much you're actually washing. If you're cooking with one pot and eating from the pot, you don't really need any dishwasing bins. If you're out with a dual-burner stove and have two frying pans, spatulas, mixing bowls, plates, utensils and mugs... then two bins will save a lot of water.

Shower - I use a solar shower now and then... they're cheap and work great when there's sun. Heating water for the shower uses a lot of fuel though... so I'd rather skip than take a cold one.

And some other things you might have missed:

Water: I usually bring two 5gal collapsible water jugs (which are annoyingly hard to carry when full but take up very little room in the car) if there's potable water. If not I'll bring a 6L bag and filter into that for camp water and 2L/3L for personal use. Some bring 5gal "office water cooler" jugs with pump, they well and you can find some grocery stores that sell full and accept empties (but you might need to buy the pump).

Garbage bags: I bring a couple of plastic shopping bags, a couple of gallon ziplocs and a few smaller sandwich bags. Picking up cig butts on the trail and vista points... I triple bag them so they don't smell up my pack.

Chairs: if you're car camping make sure to bring some camp chairs.

Toilet paper: never trust that there's going to be TP. You don't need to bring a full roll, I take a several feet (depending on how long I'll be out) and roll it up and stick in a snack size ziploc bag. Wipes/sanitizer are a good idea... you don't want to go from a public toilet to your hydration bladder and squeeze the bite valve to get water to wash your hands. You didn't mention any facilities... bring a trowel in case you have to dig a hole.

Of course things like a First Aid Kit, Map & Compass (would be a good time to get out and try orienteering), sunscreen/sun protection, whistle, duct tape, those are usually on every checklist.

Here is REI's camping checklist:

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/family-camping-checklist.html

And their backpacking checklist:

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacking-checklist.html

Okay, cool. A few things to start off with:

• first and foremost, read the FAQs. Good primer in there, and search/read the subreddit itself for more specific stuff. We've covered a lot around here, and multiple times. Soak it in, digest it a bit, then apply the best option to suit your situation.
  
  
• good job coming back around to reply directly to my and Independent's comments; that gives us a notification on our next login, so we know you were talking back, and links us back here to read and reply. You have no idea how many people new to this site don't figure that out for months, and it displays that you have the initiative and problem solving skills to get by. Breathe a bit easier, you're not doin' too bad.
  
  
• Your back/neck issues probably aren't as restrictive as you (we?) may have thought; I'm missing some small portions of my back (with no idea where they went), I have nerve damage in my neck, back, and arms, and several other vertebrae/disks are generally pretty pissed off about what I've done to them. I get around pretty well, though I'm a bit vocal when I do it, grunting and groaning my way about most days. There's plenty more like us, too, and it's good fortune that your physical issues aren't as oppressive as they could be. That'll come in handy later as well.
  
  
• You may well be able to skip out on a roof fan. I've never had a roof fan in any of my own vans (though a couple had unpowered vents), and have gotten along fine. I historically buy the $13 clip-on 12v fan from WalMart once or twice a year (they wear out, but are cheap enough to consider disposable), and run them off an extra battery I install. Times are changing, though, and I've recently found USB-rechargeable battery-operated fans by Holmes at Target - $15, but claims a 6-hour battery life on low. One fan blowing in and on you will help you feel cool enough to sleep, while cycling out air to remove the moisture you put off, so you don't have condensation forming and leading to hidden mold issues. You can recharge these, little USB power-packs, and some other key items while running the van through regular course, then unplug them for use during van-off time, so you don't drain your starter battery. I'm not a fan of those O2Breeze guys, because I hate swapping batteries constantly, which would be a considerable expenditure for a full-timer.
  
  
• For showering, I'll suggest first that you look into Planet Fitness Black Card. It's $20/month, and gives you unlimited showers, filtered water, massage chairs, WiFi, restrooms, and some other minor perks at any of their locations. If you'll be near any major metro area, this covers daily hygeine. When I stuck more around-town, I'd often visit twice per day - once for hygeine needs, and again just to relax, use the wifi, and work on me. If you can find some secluded enough spots to do it, you can clip your tarp to your opened van door(s) to make a temporary shower stall, then use something like a pump-pressure garden sprayer to hose yourself down and wash up. For a bit less workout to accomplish that, you can also score a rechargeable shower pump that simply drops into a jug with a wide-enough mouth. My similar model does ~20 showers per charge.
  
  
• Cooking is its own can of worms, but I'm a cheap bastard thrifty individual, and have built a poor-man's portable kitchen setup a few times over. I usually start with some basics from Dollar Tree to get me started - tongs, a grill grate, paperware, food containers, etc can get you by until you can "spend" on something better, and most of their food doesn't need refrigeration. Here's what my current everyday-use kitchen setup consists of:
  
  

1. Gerber ComplEAT - this really has everything you need-need except a knife, and I just use my everyday-carry pocket knife most often to complement it. Long-handled fork and spoon, spatula, veggie peeler, package/can/bottle opener, and tongs all in one very-portable set. I mostly use it just for cooking. Again, I'm cheap, so I eyed it for a long time before splurging on it (the $20-something version), and I can't complain.
   
   
2. Backpacker pot/stove kit - half the cost of my previous 3-pot kit, and comes with the stove! Perfect size for soloers, and under $25. The stove, can of gas, a couple paper towel layers between to avoid scratches and rattling, and another small item or two all fit inside the can. It comes with a mesh bag, and the Gerber set slides down in alongside it, just barely poking out the top. The $5 can of gas lasts me a whole month, at one or two uses per day, often just to boil water or warm something up.
   
   
3. Magellan Camp Cooking Knife - $8, and this is what I use as my tableware. TWO of these will fit inside the above pot/stove kit, with the stove, gas, and paper towel layers between.
   
   
4. A bag of charcoal - This and those dollar-store tongs enables you to utilize any park or campsite grill you come across, which you can totally use the linked pot kit on while grilling food, adding flavor, and enjoying the outdoors. I try to do dinner most days like this, weather-permitting.
   
   
5. Cheap camp shovel and/or machete - either can be used to dig a Dakota Fire Pit (if your back can handle it; it's pretty minor labor), which observes Leave No Trace rules, is low-key, and super-efficient. The main hole can be a single shovel-head wide, and the air hole needn't be wider than the shovel handle. Ignore the "direction of wind" arrow in the linked diagram; it makes its own draft by design. Another excellent application of the above pot kit, and the fuel is free.
   
   
6. Stainless steel camp mugs - I have an older Marlboro branded set that was given to me, but these can be had for as little as $2 each. They serve as my own cups/bowls, and my dog's water dish.
   
   
7. THE DOG! - I've yet to find a better dishwasher. Especially with stainless or anodized aluminum, this cuts cleanup down to sanitization, and they're happy to do it. My dog is quite small, and so I just chuck a handful of kibble into a recently-dirtied pot, and set 'er down.
   
   
8. Wilderness Wash - This is actually my everything-soap. I use it to wash dishes, my belongings, and myself. Rinses clean, is as environmentally-safe as it gets (though still don't put it on the ground within a few hundred feet of a water source or rain gutter) and super-portable, and is the only product I've found yet that can cut diesel grime (from my day job), yet doesn't make my skin break out. A dime-sized drop does all the dishes, quarter-size does me, and a 3oz bottle lasts me all month.
   
   
9. Viva brand paper towels - another one-product wonder. They're really similar to the blue "shop towels" you find at the auto parts store, but are white, soft, super-sturdy, and hella-absorbent. They're a little expensive as paper towels go, but I use them as paper plates, automotive rags, for cleaning, sweat towels, and even toilet paper (when the toilet isn't of the flush variety).
   
   All this (except the dog) fits in a 5-gallon bucket if you put it all together, but I keep the machete, shovel, grill grate, charcoal, and a small BBQ in the back, and the kitchen-y stuff altogether amidships where I usually am.

I just bought that stove. It's excellent. Mine

I really considered that pack. Ended up going to REI buying one there, since I wanted to make 100% I'd be comfortable in it. Ended up with the REI Mars 85 for $119 on clearance. I love it.
If you have the time to order and return it, I'd try the one you linked.

I considered a spork, but I find that I prefer having two separate utensils to manipulate food. I got the $3 3 piece set at REI and like it.

That Stanley cookpot was a close contender for me. I ended up with the coleman aluminum set that the Boy Scouts use. It's $6 and very light.

I don't know that you'll need the drysacks, but they are decent. WalMart sells that brand. I ended up getting their three stuff sacks for $5.
Wal Mart also has nifty things like clips, zipper pulls, and other random useful stuff in their camping section.

I've never had Mountain House, but at those prices I'll pass. Here's the food list I'm working on - goal is cheap and easy to purchase (no DIY dehydration, etc.)

I don't think you'll need the firesteel. Waterproof matches, two lighters ought to be enough. I just made my mind up on this last night - pulled the steel from my pack.

I can not stress good socks enough. These are my single favorite thing out of my gear.

This mug is good, insulated, cheap, has a lid, and light.

This underwear, dear god. Another must.

I didn't do the steripen, ended up with the Katadyn Hiker Pro instead. The cool thing is that it comes with quick disconnects to add to your hydration bladder so you can pump water straight from the river into your bladder via the sip tube - no need to even open the pack! For me, with an 85 liter pack and a 3 liter platypus, this was really nice.

On this recommendation, I bought this tent at Walmart for $22. I'm 6' and fit it snugly diagonally. Very, very light (maybe 2 pounds, packed), and seems like it will do the trick. Haven't spent the night in it. The material is barely water resistant and the rainfly is tiny, so I carry a lightweight tarp just in case and use it as the footprint when I don't need rain protection. It's lighter and roomier than anything I could find under $120.

This bag is a little on the heavy side at 4.5 pounds, but I couldn't find a better-reviewed bag under $80. (at ~$90, the North Face Cat's Meow is the way to go).

Do you have the regular planet fitness membership or the black one?
http://www.planetfitness.com/membership-types

If you have the black one you're golden ;)

Other than that, get a good portable stove so you can make some food and boil water for tea or coffee.

Buy a jerrycan for water with a little tap on it, fill it up regularly, it also means you can wash yourself even if you don't have access to showers etc.

A small camping spade is good for number 2s in the woods :)

Get a mosquito net hammock, and maybe a cheap tent it means you can sleep outside or on campsites on hot nights.

Your biggest expense will be gas for the car.

Planet fitness is a good idea, but it's urban areas, I would do some (wild) camping more often.

I have no idea what campsites cost in the US per night, but if you do that every other night, or even once in 3 nights, it beats sleeping in a car park, and is cheaper than a hotel.

Have a look at some of the national parks, some of them have basic (cheap) camp grounds too. Campgrounds are really cool places to meet people, much better than a Walmart car park ;)

Shopping list:

Solar shower

Water carrier

Folding spade

Hammock

Cookware

Camping canister stoves are cheap, between $10 and $50
Cheap tent is around $50

Total expenses before hand, around $150-200 max.

I just went for the first items I found on amazon, there are probably cheaper or better products out there.

Source, I did a 6 month trip by bicycle through Europe, so not the same, but the basics are the same. You have the advantage of not being restricted by weight or size of items, which makes it cheaper.

If you need more ideas, packing tips or anything else, I'll gladly help ;)

Have fun, explore and enjoy, it's fun!

Welcome aboard! :D

I think you will be fine with 35mm tyres. Here's the trick - if it becomes too much you just hitchike through the gravel sections. Hitchhiking is super popular and you won't have issues with it (as a plan B). Honestly, more often than not people I've met would just fly in, buy a used semi-shitty bike and equipment, ride for a month or two, and then sell the bikes. I brought my own since I had contact points (saddle, handlebar) adjusted several times over prior months.

As for camping - it's a mix of paid campsite (usually 5-10 USD) and wild camping. I personally stayed in paid ones when I had a chance - showers (often cold ones though), kitchen, and company are a big draw for me. I wild camped three time, only one of them was "stealth", meaning I just camped on the side of the road. Second one I just asked the permission to camp on what looked like somebody's property and they said "sure thing", and third we camped at the shore of the river where lots of other people camped. For equipment - check out /r/Ultralight - a lot of stuff they recommend is pricey, but at the same time there are a lot of people looking to go on the cheap. I would personally recommend Naturehike Taga 2p tent - it's very light, it's a chinese knock off a well known brand, so it's a good design, and people being saying very nice things about the quality. It can be had for ~100 USD I believe (check out AliExpress or Amazon , whichever is cheaper). You main expenditure items will be sleeping pad and sleeping bag. For pad you want inflatable insulated compact one. If you can afford it - go for Sea To Summit UL Comfort, or NeoAir XLite. If you can't - check out Klymit Insulated Static V. For sleeping bags there are just too many options for me to recommend anything, plus you're headed somewhere where it's not going to get cold at night in January, so there are millions of options.

Other things you're going to need:

• Stove (I used this one and love it - it's compact, it's light, it's cheap, and it's reliable. The drawback is that it takes a bit more time to boil water, and it can be a bit unstable due to small size, but the alternative is like 50$ more so I just live with it. https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Ultralight-Portable-Backpacking-Ignition/dp/B00B4FY8YO/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i1?_encoding=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B00B4FY8YO&pd_rd_r=FQNGM82TNCGE7MVAP130&pd_rd_w=9GBOP&pd_rd_wg=9qjrK&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=2RQM0WMC7CQWCFAHNXFQ&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=781f4767-b4d4-466b-8c26-2639359664eb&pf_rd_i=desktop)
  
• Rainjacket. Yeah, it's going to rain sometimes.
  
• Pot(s) to cook in. Again, no need to go fancy, I use a set of these ones: https://www.amazon.com/MalloMe-Camping-Cookware-Folding-10-Piece/dp/B01743BX1A/ref=pd_bxgy_468_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01743BX1A&pd_rd_r=R9CMCK2HC8H2F0SZRHMK&pd_rd_w=rifN7&pd_rd_wg=UzODw&psc=1&refRID=R9CMCK2HC8H2F0SZRHMK
  
• Warm compact UL jacket. This is what you put on in the evening in the camp if the cold wind picks up. People often go for down jacket and that's a good options, but down doesn't deal well with moisture, so for Patagonia I would actually consider synthetic insulated jacket. /r/Ultralight has a long list of threads discussing cheap (~30$) options from AliExpress - check them out.
  
  All of this together can be had for under 400 USD easily, maybe even 300. That would only be 5-6 nights in a hotel.
  
  Things to consider although not critical:
  
  
• merino shirts and underwear. I never quite understood why people were so crazy about merino until I tried it on my trip. When you sweat it dries up in couple minutes, it doesn't smell (like, I cycled and hiked and slept in two shirts for two weeks and they didn't smell at the end), it's very light, it keeps you warm when it's chilly and cool when it's hot.
  
• Power bank - charging even in campsites is somewhat of a challenge since there are approximately 20 devices macguyvered to a single outlet. With 20,000 mAH bank I only needed to recharge it once in two weeks (I charged my phone off of it every night + a camera battery once).
  
  To reiterate on safety - part I was in virtually has no crime. At no point the situation looked even remotely sketchy. Honestly, the scariest part of the trip by far was deciding to go.

Thanks for the reply

>Lose the dish soap, keyboard, glow stick, camp towel, and clothesline.

Im willing to lose everything but the keyboard. Im specifically bringing that to play nostalgic emulators on my phone. I might send it back home if I don't feel the need to entertain myself with videogames in my down time.

>"Sweatpants" makes me nervous because for me, that word typically refers to a cotton item. Don't bring cotton clothes.

I have long underwear and those thin hiking pants that have the removable legs to double as shorts. Will this be warm enough or should I add another layer such as rain pants?

>How much water capacity is that?

1.75 liters. The small bottle is for filtered water and electrolyte mixes the large is for unfiltered water.

>That's a heavy trowel.

It is I am looking to replace it although the plastic ones don't fold. This one is metal and it does which helps with space.

>You have crocs listed twice.

The weight I listed is the weight of one shoe not a set

>I don't see a phone

I will list my phone tomorrow when I can weigh it, like I said this is a rough draft

>"Pots" plural? You just need one, or is that a typo?

I bought this pot set off of amazon and it fits the fuel inside it along with the stove, its the best cheap solution I've found yet.

G4Free Outdoor Camping pan Hiking Cookware Backpacking Cooking Picnic Bowl Pot Pan Set 4 Piece Camping Cookware Mess Kit(2 PCS-Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQSHG3N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_XP8HAbD2DGF35

>"Emergency blanket" shouldn't be categorized under clothes.

True

>You don't need the syringe for the Sawyer if one of your smartwater bottles has a sport top.

Good idea

>What is your start date? I know your hiking clothes aren't listed yet, but if it's cold enough you'll want those gloves you'll probably want some sort of a hat as well.

Starting March 3rd, I do have a beanie I can add

>You don't need an ounce worth of sewing kit. A needle and a little thread is useful, but shouldn't weigh more than a few grams.

Ill see how I can package my sewing kit better

No problem with the editing I did the same replying. Again thanks for the input!

Honestly, this is too open ended to give appropriate advice. What are you cooking? Predominantly boiled water food, or more varied cooking? How many people are you cooking for? What climate do you live in? Will you be boiling water to purify it? Will you be using the cookset while car camping or on longer treks into the backcountry? What's your price range?

The absolute cheapest is going to be a diy alcohol stove (there are tons of different methods) and a diy can pot. The whole setup would be negligible in price and ultralight for backpacking but doesn't do much more than boil water.

Moving up are canister stoves which range from $10 for a simple stove to $100+ for a Jetboil or similar system. I have an MSR Pocket Rocket and the temperature control makes these systems better for cooking more complicated backcountry meals beyond boiling water. The downside is the canisters are not reusable and it's hard to tell exactly how much fuel you have left. Predictably, the Jetboil is very fast and efficient at boiling water but not great at more complicated cooking.

Stepping up from the diy cooking pots are any cheap aluminum pots. These can be dedicated camping pots, or just any general discount pot.

Moving beyond canister stoves you can look at liquid gas stoves like the MSR Whisperlite. These stoves cost $100-150 and depending on the model can use white gas, gasoline, kerosene, and some also have adapters for canisters. The nearly unlimited fuel source make these stoves fantastic for prepping and the refillable liquid fuel bottle allows you to always know how much fuel you have. They are larger and heavier than canister stoves (though about equivalent to a Jetboil) and don't have great heat control. I use my MSR Whisperlite as my go-to stove just because it's easier to use than wasting my canister fuel.

A step up from basic backpacking pots are titanium pots. At this point all you're paying for is less weight than your cheaper options.

You can also look at large, traditional dual burner coleman stoves. These essentially give you a normal stove-top while camping and the propane canisters are relatively cheap. Of course, these are not suitable for anything but home use and car camping.

Another option for bushcraft, depending on your climate, is to just use a campfire. Some people only take a steel water bottle and use it to boil water in the campfire for their cooking needs. This is usually too much hassle for me after a long day of hiking but I occasionally use this method depending on the trip and weather.

When you look at cooking sets, stay away from nice little kits with pots and plates and silverware and cups. All you really need is a pot and a spoon or spork. Sometimes I bring a cup and or bowl, but I think it's best to keep things simple and lightweight.

There are other options out there but I hope this answered your question. If I was to blindly recommend one complete budget-minded set right now, it would be the MSR Pocket Rocket - $40, this pot and cup combo - $11, and this spork -$3, plus a $10 isobutane canister.

I mean no disrespect, but I also tend to be rather blunt: There is a lot of work that needs to be done to this bag. It seems really thrown together, out of an amalgamation of random stuff that's vaguely "outdoorsy".

Firstly, the bag itself. There's probably a reason it was in the trash, and my suspicion is that it wasn't because it was well built, durable, and comfortable. Good bags can be had for not much money and there are definitely used options on Craigslist and at outdoor store garage sales if you're on a shoestring budget. Your bag has to be able to take the abuse of multiple days and many miles of rucking.

FOUR knives? And they are all folders to boot? And you're trying to tell me this isn't "bloated"? Come on. Get one good multitool like a Leatherman, or keep the Gerber if you must (you don't need 87 bits for your Gerber in the woods, either). Maaaybe carry a fixed blade, too, if you really think you'll be needing it.

Mess kit: That looks bulky as hell, and aluminum has an incredibly low melting point (something like ~1200F) which is easily attainable in a mature fire. Hello melted mess kit. If you are really just bugging out you shouldn't need to cook anything. Calorie dense food bars, jerky, nuts etc. should be sufficient. Get a super small mess kit like this amazing one from GSI Outdoor and use this very cheap but decent backpacking stove and you have a lightweight, highly functional way to cook, boil water, and drink for under $25.

Blade sharpener? If you somehow manage to dull all four of your knives in a few days you're doing something wrong. Save the blade sharpener for the Zombies-Are-Attacking INCH bag or whatever.

Sunscreen and bug repellent are both great. that said, you are carrying almost as much sunscreen as you are water. Embellishing, of course, but that's a fucking lot of sunscreen.

I would also seriously work on flushing out that medical kit. If you don't have much first aid training, that's fine (though you should get some) but a basic boo-boo kit will be really functional. Gauze, small band-aids, some medium sized non-stick pads, alcohol wipes, burn cream and/or antibiotic cream, tweezers, rubber gloves, pain relievers, anti-diarrheals, generic antihistamines (for regular allergies and allergic reactions), etc. etc. Avoid pre-built medical kits and avoid things you don't know how to use.

The MSR filter is actually fantastic, can't fault you there. That said, something like a Sawyer Mini would be a fair bit lighter, and has integral water storage should you need more.

Metal water bottle: Looks like a thermos, which is great for keeping your coffee warm on the way to work but is single-use and heavy in the backwoods. I'd suggest changing it out for a widemouth single-walled metal container like those from Klean Kanteen because now not only do you have a way to store water, but you also have a way to boil it! And you can cook in it if absolutely necessary. And you can fill it up with hot water and add it to your sleeping bag to stay warm.

Wait...where is your sleeping bag? I know you mentioned having some miscellaneous camping gear in your car, but what if you need to abandon your car? Look at even a simple bivy sack like this one from SOL. Coupled with a lightweight tarp and you have a functional survival sleep system. Throw in a small inflatable pad for insulation from the ground and you can survive in all but the most inclement of weather.

Lose the rat traps and 200(!!!) fishing hooks in exchange for calorie dense food bars and other foods that need little or no preparation. Try to stay above 130 calories/gram and pay attention to things that are high in protein, fiber, and fat. You're bugging out, remember? Not sitting around camp all day with a cold one and your rod in the lake.

Substitute your few cheap (read: heavy and unreliable) flashlights for one good one. Something like a Four Sevens Quark AA2 or something from Fenix, Nitecore, or Olight. It will be reliable, well built, and powered by an efficient driver to produce multiple modes of light and provide for good run time. Get something that takes standard AA or AAA batteries. Avoid CR123As.

Noticeably lacking are things like a map and firestarters. You mentioned a ferrocerium rod. Instead of spending $7.00 on a decent one of those, get three BIC lighters and a pack of waterproof matches in a container. And save a couple bucks in the process. Ever started a fire with a ferro rod? It sucks. I've done it. I do it for fun and honing my skills occasionally. But a simple ass BIC will work 100 times better in almost any situation.

Add a high quality, water resistant topographical map of your region. Do you know how to use that compass? I'm not talking about pointing it north, but for things like triangulation or magnetic declination or navigating to a point on your map by finding a bearing. There are tons of Youtube videos out there that will help you in understanding these techniques if you don't already. A compass by itself is near useless.

How about things that you're more likely to encounter?

Throw in a charger for your phone, or maybe one of those $5 burner flip phones and a $10 minutes card in case yours dies. Take the battery out (should be removable on a cheap pay-as-you-go bog standard phone) and write important numbers on the inside.

How about wiping your ass? Go to your nearest Walmart and hit the toiletries section. You'll find bins of $1.00 miniature travel accessories. I'd recommend a toothbrush, toothpaste, deodorant bar, personal wet wipes (preferably biodegradable), Chapstick, and some baby powder or Gold Bond. Throw it all in a gallon Ziplock or a small pouch. Now you can survive in the woods AND survive overnight a friend's house after you get too drunk and can't drive.

I see nothing for cold weather gear. I know it's summer but depending on where you are night time can still be cold as hell. Add a beanie, wool gloves, a fleece underlayer, a poncho or rainproof hard shell jacket, and a change of GOOD wool socks.


Lose the 9 million feet of paracord. 50ft should be plenty sufficient (if that) especially considering the inner strands are strong enough for most applications.

I think that covers all my major gripes. Back to drinking and being an ass.

Hey! I'm also looking to start NOBO 2017 around that same time. I have some backpacking experience. Mostly weekend overnight trips over the past 3 to 4 years. I just got back from finishing a 7 day shakedown hike on the Georgia section (Springer to Dicks Creek Gap). Once you start picking up some stuff, I would highly suggest at least trying a 2 or 3 night hike to get a feel for your gear.

I've been slowly upgrading to more lightweight items over the past few months ... after obsessively reading this sub as well as /r/ultralight. Here is what I'm currently using. Hope this helps!

• Packs - I have the ULA Circuit but I've heard nothing but good things about the Osprey Exos. Both are extremely popular packs on the trail. This is really dependent on your baseweight so it's recommended that you pick this up last. (Something I did not do lol)
  
  
• Sleeping Bags - What I ended up getting and what everyone here seems to recommend is a 20deg Enlightened Revelation Quilt. I don't have any complaints about it so far. Another popular (and cheaper) option I've seen around here is the Kelty Cosmic Down.
  
  
• Tents - You can pick up a Henry Shires Tarptent for around $200 to $300. I have the Notch but I almost went with the Rainbow.
  
  
• Trekking Poles - You don't need expensive carbon poles. I picked up a pair of Black Diamond Trail Ergo Cork poles for about $70 on amazon and I love them. These also double as my tent poles. I'd go cheaper here and use the cash saved somewhere else.
  
  
• Cooking System - I have the MSR Pocket Rocket canister stove and a GSI minimalist cookpot. However, I'm looking to upgrade the pot to a titanium cookpot before leaving for trail.

Over the past year I've been piecing together camping gear. I ultimately plan on doing backpacking trips once I become a more experienced camper, and graduate college. Growing up, I went camping frequently but never really did any backpacking or primitive camping where you have to hike to the campsite - my dad always took us to the campsites you can drive up to. My friend, who boasts about the camping etiquette and survival skills he learned in boy scouts, justly criticizes my experience camping - which is limited to campsites that don't require you to pack light and have easy access to water (and restrooms). For example, I've never had the opportunity of digging a hole to shit in. Do I just dig a hole with my hands? Do I need to bring a shovel? How much toilet paper do I need to bring for a 2-3 day trip? I know I have to bring the used paper with me, so how do you recommend carrying trash in general?

Things like this I figure I'd learn overtime. And I do plan on pacing myself; I'm going to work my way up from 1-2 day trips to 2-3 day trips to 4-5 day trips, and ultimately something like the Appalachian Trail. My favorite place to go camping is Big Bend National Park, and there's a 2-3 day trip I'd like to do sometime this year.

I guess my main questions are:

1. How would you recommend starting off? Would a couple of 2-3 day backpacking trips, with my friend, be a good place to start?
   
2. Is my gear sufficient? Is there anything I'm missing?
   
3. Any general tips, book or gear suggestions.
   
   Here's a list of my gear:
   
   

• REI Passage 2 Tent
  
• Osprey Volt 75 Backpack w/ bladder
  
• Marmot Trestles 30 Sleeping Bag and a sleeping pad
  
• Hammock (which I think, if i'm using a tent, would make for a great pillow when it's folded up)
  
• Mess Kit and utensils
  
• Fuel Tablet Camping Stove
  
• Rechargeable flashlight
  
• A small, rechargeable lantern
  
• 2 multi-tool pliers - one big, one small
  
• 2 knifes
  
• First aid kit
  
  Also, I plan on getting a pair of hiking boots this summer. Any suggestions?
  
  edit: grammar

Titanium Pot - 28 oz savings ($35)

Drop The mug, just use your pot - 4 oz savings (free)

Trowel instead of shovel - 16 oz savings ($20)

Drop the solar panel (doesn't really work well on the move) - 10-ish savings (free)

Sawyer Squeeze instead of Katadyn - 8 oz savings ($30)

Dance Pants instead of packed pants - 14 oz saved ($18) although you probably dont need these since you're wearing zip off pants

I would add a puffy to your clothing, it will get pretty cold - 10 oz gained (can be found on sale for $40)

Leave the extra shirts at home - 12 oz saved (free)

Just bring one extra payer of underwear and socks - 6 oz saved (free)

Leave campshoes at home - 23 oz saved (free)

I really don't know what the survival kit contains, but it can probably be paired down or eliminated

Don't know what the carabiners are for if you're hanging stuff outside your pack you're bringing too much - 4 oz saved (free)

Don't know what the tarp is for the sierras, you already have a tent

125 oz saved or almost 8 pounds. Coming in at a cost around $150.

I would start here and then look at replacing your bigger items. The easiest one to save the most weight would be your pack.

Hope this helps!

I have one of these. It's very nice for the reasons you mention. I also have an Imusa 12cm and a Toaks 750ml pot. All are useful in different ways and for different applications. One is tall and skinny (Toaks 750), one is short and wide (Toaks 700), one is tall and wide (Imusa). My main criteria is being able to fit 2 cups of water, but right now am really liking the Imusa for its wideness (to better accommodate my Fancee Feest alcohol stove) and its tallness because I was able to make a nice aluminum flashing windscreen that I can fit inside the pot when I'm not using it.

One other thing I have discovered is the lid to the 700ml fits my lidless Imusa pot perfectly.

I'd highly recommend going with a Soto Amicus ($40) or Windmaster ($65) instead. The Amicus is really nice and the Windmaster is more deluxe with nicer performance specs. I have an Amicus and love it. It's reliable, wind resistant, efficient, simmers pretty well, light, compact.

Some people here are fans of the BRS-3000 stove but be aware that even though it's even lighter and cheaper, it has terrible wind performance, bad efficiency, takes longer to boil, doesn't simmer very well, has lots of reports of collapsing or just crapping out completely.

Getting one of those stoves along with a nice titanium pot, you'll be much lighter and more compact than a Jetboil. You can choose the size and shape of pot you want rather than being locked into a heavy proprietary one, and you can switch pots which would be nice if you're sharing your stove with other people who have their own mug or pot.

For pots I'd recommend the Toaks 550 Light or 650 Light for their light weight and convenient shape and handles. But there are lots of other great pots to choose from depending on your cooking style.

To give you an idea of weight: my Amicus is 2.54oz, my 550 pot and lid is 2.52oz, for a total of 5.06oz. Compared to the lightest Jetboil which is 12oz.

An aluminum or titanium pot would save 80-100g. This $35 titanium pot looks good. Using a lightweight plastic cup would save 50-60g.

Maybe try a DIY alcohol stove, which would save about 400g on a weekend trip. (On longer trips a canister stove has reasonably good weight efficiency.)

2kg is pretty heavy for a sleeping bag. Switching to a down quilt would save about 1500g. Enlightened Equipment is a great brand with really good prices.

Your pack is probably fine for now, but once you've upgraded your other gear and you have a better idea what capacity you need, you could probably save 800-1000g with a lighter pack.

How old are you kids? Have they been camping before? Plenty of stuff to make them comfortable and happy. These Mystical Fire Packets are great and my kids (6 and 4) really look forward to using them. Good shoes, plenty of snacks and treats, maybe their own cookware. If your kids are older maybe you don't need to go this route. I just try to make trips as fun and exciting as I can for my youngsters to get them interested.

I'm really into the single serving Mountian House meals, they taste better than what I make at home. Walmart carries them like $5 each. One for breakfast, one for dinner, and for lunch snacks, Oh! Ricey instant noodles (way better than ramen) or whatever for lunch. Throw a couple Vinacafe sachets for the morning coffee and you're all set!

I'm not Asian but I've found out that the Asian markets (specifically Vietnamese) carry the BEST food for backpacking. They're big into freeze dried, dehydrated stuff with tons of flavor their culture isn't big into refrigeration.

As far as stoves go? I use this one, works great. Oh, and a Sawyer mini filter.

If you go to Walmart you can find Boy Scout style mess kits for $5 that include a little aluminum pan. Buy that and try it out. If you don't like it you'll use it in the future for something else and it was only $5.

I have one and it comes with my on all my trips (just the frying pan part) because it is so damn light, half as light as my friends titanium pan of the same size.

Also aluminum in general is a good material because it has excellent heat conduction, something like 5 times that of steel. Because of this it will heat food evenly despite an uneven heat source.

Pro tip. Because aluminum is such a good conductor of heat the handle will often get quite hot. Luckily the handle is actually a separate piece from the pan so unscrew it, insert a steel washer, and put it back together. The poor heat conducting properties of the steel as well as the additional air gap perfectly solves the hot handle issue!

You can't fake it. You don't have to. The more honestly you live, and the more you "turn on the lights" of the dark room, the simpler, not easier, it'll be. You'll see the path up the mountain, but climbing isn't any easier, if that makes sense. Find the path. Yours. I melted down at a social event recently, and my family, thankfully, understands.

If I had my earplugs, it would've been easier. The bar was so loud I couldn't think. It felt like I was floating, and I was terrified. In the future, I know I'll have to leave, because I can't fake it.

There's so much more joy to be had when you don't have to endure shit you genuinely don't like because other people like it.

Stress is caused by going against the way things are. Be honest, to yourself and everyone else. Good luck.

I'm kind of in the same boat as you are. Started backpacking maybe about 2 months ago and had a ton of old gear. Carrying 35 lbs over 26 miles was no fun, and when I came back home to research lighter stuff I kept finding things that were hundreds of dollars a piece. I did a ton of research and found some good quality gear at a budget level.

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Tent - $70 - Geertop 1 Person 3 Season 20D Ultralight Backpacking Tent for Camping Hiking Climbing (Trekking Poles NOT Included)(Inner Tent is Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J9XWJEI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_hE-PBbG3XQVVQ

Sleeping System (2 parts)

Quilt - $35 - Double Black Diamond Packable Down Throw with Stuff Sack, 60" x 70" (Peacock) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079YX2W79/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_.F-PBbJ5R45V4

Pad - $40 - WellaX Ultralight Air Sleeping Pad – Inflatable Camping Mat for Backpacking, Traveling and Hiking Air Cell Design for Better Stability & Support –Plus Repair Kit (Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076PHYVD8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_60-PBbA71XR3R

*note I sleep warm and wear layers. I found the quilt to be good for 3 season camping in the temperate CA conditions. The pad helps with the cold and I'm a side sleeper so the pad is a requirement for me. YMMV.

Poles - $22 (needed for the tent listed above) - BAFX Products - 2 Pack - Anti Shock Hiking / Walking / Trekking Trail Poles - 1 Pair, Blue, Royal Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007YT854S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sI-PBb1S6HSMG

Cook pot - $11 - G4Free Outdoor Camping pan Hiking Cookware Backpacking Cooking Picnic Bowl Pot Pan Set 4 Piece Camping Cookware Mess Kit(2 PCS-Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQSHG3N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fK-PBb0YKV8R3

I cook simple meals that mostly require just boiling water. It's also large enough to fit my soap, stove, and gas can in.

Stove - $14 - Etekcity Ultralight Portable Outdoor Backpacking Camping Stove with Piezo Ignition https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B4FY8YO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_dM-PBb3M334JD


Water filtration (4 parts)
Dirty water bag - $20 - Cnoc Outdoors Vecto 2L Water Container, 28mm, Orange https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075NQT5KP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_DN-PBbFGE74F0

Clean water bag - $13 - Platypus Platy 2-Liter Ultralight Collapsible Water Bottle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000J2KEGY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_CO-PBbZ2HXVZV

Filter - $37 - Sawyer Products SP137 PointOne Squeeze Water Filter System with 16-Ounce Pouch, Straw, and Hydration Pack Adapters https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WG9AFW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_1P-PBbX4F8JW4

Filter attachment - $3 - Sawyer Products SP150 Coupling for Water Filtration Cleaning https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018NJC1A6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_YQ-PBbDFGGM0D

With this water system you have the option of gravity feeding your water supply at camp. You can also simplify by just buying the $37 kit and just squeeze directly into your water bottle/bladder, but I find this setup more convenient.

After that, the rest are kind of up to you. Food, clothes, etc. I wouldn't skimp on shoes though. Look into trail runners or hiking SHOES (not boots).

Optional things I'd look into is paracord and a tarp especially if you're going to camp in the rain. You can also look into hammock camping which would be a little more budget friendly than the tent + blanket option.

Overall there are definitely cheaper options but I find this to be a good balance of price, weight, and convenience.

All in all this is about $265.

My time to shine! I'm big into canoe camping. All the links I'm giving you are from Amazon Canada but you can get the same stuff on Amazon USA.

• Get a backpacker's stove. You can get a cheap one from Amazon like this or this.
  
  
• Get a cookpot off of Amazon too like a Toaks pot or Stanley pot.
  
  
• Get a water filter like the Katadyn BeFree.
  
  
• Get a spork.
  
  
• Get a frying pan that has a handle that can fold up. There are a ton of options for this on Amazon.
  
  
• Don't forget a spatula. You can get smaller, lighter options for this on Amazon.
  
  Now you're all set for anything you have to cook.
  
  Food suggestions:
  
  
• Frozen meat for the first night
  
• Frozen bacon for the first morning
  
• Eggs for the first morning
  
• Salami
  
• Bagged tuna
  
• Bagged salmon
  
• Fish (if caught)
  
• Babybel cheeses
  
• Nuts
  
• Seeds
  
• Beef jerky
  
• Low carb tortillas
  
• Avocado for the first day
  
• Mayo packets
  
• Dark chocolate
  
• Oatmeal packages
  
• Dehydrated fruit like peaches and strawberries
  
• Dehydrated veggies like peppers and onions and mushrooms
  
• Parmesan cheese
  
• Salt, pepper, seasonings
  
• Dehydrated meals from MEC or REI (you can get regular options and low carb options)
  
• Bagged quick cook rice
  
  I tend to not eat three meals a day when paddling. I have breakfast and dinner and maybe some snacks during the day.
  
  Be mindful that if you are paddling and hiking and portaging you're going to be burning huge amounts of calories. If you're just lazing about on a dinghy maybe not so much.

I live in a camper full time going on a month now and I have not found a solution yet, but have been looking. I'm considering a thermal cooker, which apparently works as an oven just by boiling water. There is also something like this that goes right on top of a camp stove: http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-5010D700T-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA

You probably won't find much of a counter-argument because she's right, it won't be the same. But if you want to live in a camper than you have to adapt and that's pretty much all their is to it.

I would love to be able to grind my wheat and bake my bread on the road!

Have you been tent camping before? This may seem like the cheapest way to go, but if you don't already have your camping equipment already this can be an expensive way to go.

Using amazon:

• 2 person tent $45
  
• 2 sleeping bags $44
  
• battery powered lanterns $15
  
• 48 pack batteries $12 (that may be too many but you don't want to buy too few)
  
• single burner stove $25
  
• tank of propane $10 (burner is kind of useless without it)
  
• coffee percolator $12
  
• Camping cookware $18
  
• camping tableware set $28
  
  I'm leaving some stuff out, but you're looking at about another $209 added to the cost of staying at Fort Wilderness.
  
  Let's not forget that if you aren't sure about being comfortable with tent camping, It rains like you've rarely ever seen every day in Florida. Usually for short periods of time, but are you willing to tent camp in a tropical rainstorm over night?
  
  I am a huge advocate of Fort Wilderness. I've loved the place since my parents took me there as a child (with a pull behind RV) in the mid 1970's. I suggest you go to the Chip and Dale Campfire Sing-A-Long, and Movies Under The Stars while you are there. If you can afford it go to the Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue as well. However, tent camping in Florida is quite different than tent camping anywhere else. Maybe wait a little longer until you can afford to stay at one of the All-Star resorts.

I love anything Ozark Trail if it's a quality item. They've been making some backpacking tents that are light and good quality, you just gotta know which model to get. My buddy has that cook set and has never had an issue with it. I personally would go with it over anything expensive. You don't need everything from the set and you can probably shave a pound off. Personally, I use this guy and it is super light and great quality

Civ here, gonna get an IR reflective flag patch like the one you have (I'm guessing). I thought you only get the reverse flag for the shoulder?

Also

Water, check
TQ, check
ammo, check,
pack, check.

• 1 change of clothes
  
• Provisions (high calorie good nutrient)
  
• large knife
  
• concealed back up pistol in case you are disarmed
  
• 1 bobby pin
  
• 2 handcuff keys - one in your bag and one on your person.
  
• pocket saw
  
• water filter
  
• a good pair of gloves (I've got camelback magnums, they're awesome)
  
• Compass
  
• Magnesium fire starter
  
• emergency blanket
  
• bug spray you'll thank me
  
• a couple contractor trash bags (this will help waterproof your shelter and it's amazing insulation.
  
• medkit (you said its on your list)
  
• sighting device (unless you have a scope on your rifle)
  
• flares/flaregun
  
• chemical lights
  
• flashlight
  
• bear mace
  
• compact cookset for boiling water, cooking/retaining nutrients.
  
• 100 ft paracord
  
• toilet paper or wet wipes (trust me)
  
• 1 bar antimicrobal/antibacterial soap
  
• toothbrush/paste
  
  and then depending on where you live, you may want some climbing equpment, like a descender or ascender and some rope.

I use a pocket rocket 2 (big fan, the Deluxe looks good too) with an Optimus Terra Weekend HE cookset. The Terra is still a two piece and non-stick like the Vango, but also has these Heat Exchange fins that supposedly reduce boil time by like 20%. I haven't tested that claim but I have cooked in it and I would recommend it to others.

But I would also second the recommendation to just get a single light pot, which gets way more use than the pan for me. i've got a [Toaks 650ml] (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SMFNAZW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) that i like a lot for when i don't need to share food (which is why i usually bring the pan part of the Terra)

However, if both options here are more expensive wherever you are due to international shipping or whatever, the Vango set is probably fine. Nothing looks terribly off about it

I just tried rice over a dried chickpeas with a camping pan - the MSR Alpine "stowaway." Link. I took the lid off, but the handle still works great, and the 1.1 liter is sized perfectly for my 6qt instant pot. I put it on top of an inverted steamer basket.

Ear plugs with a valve. Something like this will allow you to still hear the quiet parts, but the valve kicks in and blocks when it hits a certain DB. I dont have experience with this set in particular, I generally rock Surefire Sonic Defender EP3's if i'm at a concert (cause I already use them for shooting sports), but I'd imagine ones made specifically for concerts would be your best bet. They'd be much better than foam plugs you'd have to remove/reinsert as the volume changed throughout the film

For a tent I have the Ledge Scorpion 2. It's light, small, freestanding, has an optional tarp for when it rains, and good ventilation.

You can get a decent sleeping bag at Academy. I have a No Limits 32 degree tent. I wouldn't get anything rated colder than that because they'll be too big. Mine is basically as big as you should ever get. I'd recommend smaller.

For bed roll I I have the Alps Comfort Series. It rolls real flat and is inflatable by mouth.

For cooking system I use this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004U8CP88/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1. It's extremely light and small. Works great with this for cookware: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0037DD3R4/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

Don't forget about a good backpack and a good water purification equipment.

I went with a ALPS Mountaineering Lynx 1-Person Tent for sleeping with a Camp Solutions Lightweight Self-Inflating Air Sleeping Pad. Had a 40 degree bag/quilt from Walmart since I was traveling in August time frame.

Took this chair that really came in handy Moon Lence Outdoor Ultralight Portable Folding Chairs with Carry Bag Heavy Duty 242lbs Capacity Camping Folding Chairs Beach Chairs

Cooking set I used was 12pcs Camping Cookware Stove Canister Stand Tripod Folding Spork Wine Opener Carabiner Set Bisgear(TM) Outdoor Camping Hiking Backpacking Non-stick Cooking Non-stick Picnic Knife Spoon Dishcloth. It was good enough for the 3 weeks on the road and im still using it to this day.

Seat cushion which was good but I needed something much thicker by the end of the trip MadDog GearComfort Ride Seat Protector

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I just put all that into a waterproof 45L bag I had and then shoved my clothes into a backpack on top. Jerry rigged a canvas bag on the side for quick access things like tools and such. The net thing on top of my bags was very very helpful as well. I used these hammock straps to tie everything down on the bike since I could use them again PYS outdoor XL Hammock Straps Heavy Duty 20FT & 40 Loops&100% No Stretch (Set of 2) Fits All Hammocks

Other than that it was miscellaneous stuff...

I think it was a pricing error but I bought one of these sets as a gift for a friend...for $3.08.

They make bigger sets with nesting pots that review quite well:

https://www.amazon.com/G4Free®-Outdoor-Camping-Cookware-Backpacking/dp/B00N7EOB88/

Others in this thread have suggested Imusa and a Kmart grease pot; great suggestions.

/u/knuckle-sandwich definitely should get this Camping Cook Set!

I'm sure they'll get a bunch of awesome use out of it!

gift all the people

i like this one a pan type can be easier for some cooking, even though a canteen cup or a kleen canteen & can are nice to like this the cup is deeper & stores easy. Just my 2 cents

It is the oolong. I thought it was a nice pairing but honestly, I have pretty low standards.
I think I’ll do a YouTube video to show my process because I’ve seen several people asking the same question. But basically I used a small stove that is very cheap but has incredible reviews from amazon. I’ve used it for years. I boil the water either in a boil pot, also from amazon and linked below, or a kettle, also cheap and from amazon. Once everything is boiled I put it in a thermos. I usually boil about 1.5 to 2 liters to put in the thermos and brew with that. My thermos keeps it plenary hot for almost 6-8 back to back rounds of gongfu. The thermos I like is the half gallon ozark trail. It’s so cheap and the other size thermos’s from them suck but the half gallon keeps water hot or cold longer than the $90 yeti half gallon thermos. Ozark trails is 15 and I read it comes from the same factory as yeti but I have no solid source on that. The YouTube reviews are great though. It seems to be difficult to buy recently due to low stock but you can find it on amazon.

Etekcity Ultralight Portable Outdoor Backpacking Camping Stove with Piezo Ignition https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B4FY8YO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_boVKBbQV7ECNZ

Olicamp Hard Anodized XTS Pot (1-Litre) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007OJKI2U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fpVKBb5SZQFED

Trangia 25 Aluminium Kettle (0.9-Liter) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BSDUQM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_KqVKBb0EM1Q1X

Ozark Trail 64 Ounce Double Wall Stainless Steel Water Bottle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071ZWPKLS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_VvVKBbK5WDCNS

Collapsible, silicone

0.7L TI, Usable on a stove, $35 (flash companion is 1L, $50-60)

0.45L smaller TI mug at $20

Or any other light-ish mug... GSI enamelware mugs are like $4. If you want to heat/rehydrate in succession, I'd recommend getting something with a lid, optionally double-walled/insulated so you don't need a cozy. Keep in mind if you get a double-walled mug, you won't be able to heat stuff up in it in a pinch.

Edit: Alternatively, if you and your wife are willing to share a pot, sell your flash cup and get a pot. More fuel efficient, less stuff to carry.

I started working on a kit and figure it would be good to brainstorm about it a bit. While it probably doesn't deserve it's own thread, I'd like some input about it if possible since I still have time to change things around before I order anything.

I plan on going hiking/camping anywhere from 1-3 days and potentially even more if possible.
The pack I'm currently looking into is the 5.11 Rush 72 which should fit the bill. It has a pouch for my hydration bladder (which is a must have since I live in an arid region and running water can be rare depending on where you are located) as well as the molle for additional customization if needed.

When I'm out camping I like to have the ability to fry food as well as grill it. I have a makeshift grill that I constructed out of four tent pegs and a grate so I have that covered. In regards to frying I found a cook set that seems like it would be useful for my needs. I doubt that I would bring the entire set with me (besides the frying pan and maybe the pot if I have dried meals) which should cut down on weight a little.

For my sleep system I'm looking at a Aqua Quest 10x7 ultralight tarp, paracord (for hanging the tarp plus other uses if needed), and an OutdoorsmanLab Ultralight Sleeping Pad. I'm not entirely sure that I need a tarp since it rarely rains here but I can see it having potential against sun/wind. Both the sleeping pad and tarp fold up to about the size of a bottle which will allow me to store more gear if needed. I already have a sleeping bag insert and mummy bag if need be but I don't see myself using them for 3/4ths of the year.

Lastly, I'm looking at getting a Mora Companion for bushcraft related activities.

In total all the gear weighs about five pounds which seems reasonable enough. Let me know what you guys think.

I've had really good luck cooking in a Coleman camp oven. It's cheap, foldable, and bakes well and evenly.

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000016462-Camp-Oven-13-5/dp/B0009PURJA/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=coleman+camp+oven&qid=1562969247&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-3

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Edit: And I see someone has already linked to this, sorry. It really does work well.

These are a little spendy but are actually purpose built. Honestly though, having gone down this road a number of times I would suggest sticking to an aluminum or titanium cook pot to boil your water in and use your favorite over the counter bottled water brand bottle of choice. I personally like Smart Water brand. They're stupid durable, available in a variety of shapes and sizes. When you're done with your camping trip just throw it away and get another one next time.

That Jetboil system -- which works beautifully -- combines a heat exchanger on the bottom of the pot, with an insulating neoprene sleeve. It's brilliant, and I wish someone made an equivalent one for Esbit tabs or alcohol stoves.

It's made me consider making a neoprene sleeve for the Olicamp XTS pot, or possibly for the Esbit CS985H-EX.

id say it really depends on the size of your pack, how many people you are going to be cooking for, and what you are planning on cooking... i just ordered: http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000009607-Aluminum-Mess-Kit/dp/B0009PUR4A

cheap, light, will work great for cooking a bunch of different meals for 1-2 people.. plus everything nests so it doesnt take up too much room. I have a large MOLLE ruck and carry sleeping bag/trauma kit/MREs/rain gear/fishing gear/spare clothes/and whatever the hell else i want to carry.. but huge pots and pans are one thing i do not want to lug around on my back

EDIT: if you are rich i would buy a nice nesting titanium set... but alas i am not so i will deal with the aluminum

an 8X10 equinox tarp, $45 shipped:
http://www.amazon.com/Equinox-145774-Egret-Tarps-8-Feet/dp/B000C3MIL4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394138363&sr=8-1&keywords=equinox+tarp

Wetterlings Forest axe, $110
http://www.amazon.com/S-A-Wetterling-Axe-Wetterlings-Axes/dp/B002NWT68K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394138611&sr=8-1&keywords=wetterlings

wide mouth stainless steel water bottle, $16
http://www.amazon.com/Klean-Kanteen-Stainless-Brushed-64-Ounce/dp/B0093IS22I/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1394138674&sr=8-6&keywords=klean+kanteen

Mora bushcraft, $50 (includes firesteel)
http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Bushcraft-Carbon-Survival-Starter/dp/B00BFI8TOA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394138730&sr=8-1&keywords=mora+bushcraft

100 feet of parachute cord, $9
http://www.amazon.com/Rothco-Commercial-Paracord-550-Pound-50-Feet/dp/B000S5ODN2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1394138780&sr=8-2&keywords=paracord

MSR stainless steel pot: $20 (I have one of these, they're fantastic)
http://www.amazon.com/MSR-321109-Stowaway-Pot-1-1-Liter/dp/B000FBSZGU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394138913&sr=8-1&keywords=msr+alpine+pot

leather work gloves, $13
http://www.amazon.com/Carhartt-Grain-Leather-Driver-Glove/dp/B005I34I5W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1394139051&sr=8-2&keywords=leather+work+gloves

That all adds up to $263.

brand isn't that important, but you can also find the following on Amazon for probably around or under $60-$70 total.

1. a wool hat and gloves
   
   
2. stormproof matches (look for the NATO approved ones)
   
   
3. water treatment tablets
   
   
4. a space blanket
   
   
5. a basic first aid kit
   
   
6. a sewing kit
   
   
7. a bandana or other cotton scarf (keffiyeh, etc.)
   
   
8. A stainless steel or titanium backpackers spoon or spork (spoon on one end, fork on the other)
   
   
   The remaining money, probably about $150, I would put on a gift card to EMS, REI, Cabela's, or some other outdoor goods store where he can get some basic outdoor clothing or fill any remaining gaps with his gear, such as a pack. I generally don't recommend bags over the internet because it's so important that you try one on in person before buying it.

I have the [GSI Microdualist Hallulite] (http://www.amazon.com/GSI-50145-Halulite-Microdualist/dp/B0037DD3R4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348588722&sr=8-1&keywords=microdualist) and absolutely love it. It cleans up in a snap. Has 2 insulated bowls with cups and included utensils. Also you can fit your fuel and stove inside, granted its small enough. also it only weighs 20 oz. Which isnt bad for a two man cook set. It was a bit pricey, but Im glad I spent the extra money. I used to go through a coleman set every two seasons or so. This cookset has lasted me 3 and still looks brand new.

• Headlight
  
• Lightweight titanium forks or sporks
  
• Mess kit
  
• 
  
  I bought a lightweight cooking set from Amazon this summer that works well. Interesting enough the wooden spoon looking thing turned out to be the most useful eating utensil I have used. It was also good for cleaning the pots without scratching, stirring and eating from those freeze dried packages to get the last morsel out.
  
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PTRLR6U/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I suppose THESE in aluminum aren't terrible for the budget minded, You can find several different varieties for around 15-20 bucks. They include folding spork, bamboo spatula and other goodies.

The One Egg Wonder is popular with the UL community, just chop that handle off. Be mindful of the "one egg" deffinition as this pan is 4.75" around, i.e. SMALL but lightish.

If you want something that actually functions as a frying pan, I use THIS but it comes in heavier @ about 10.5 oz. I use it rarely but it actually works for frying where the THIN titanium/aluminum pans do NOT.

You must properly "season" the MSR pan, but it works beautifully.

GSI Outdoors makes a pretty handy kit. Expensive, though.

I have this Mallome set. So far pretty good, but only really big enough for 1-2 people. I picked it up after deciding to downsize my cook kit.

I almost never take cast iron with me, as I find it really heavy and bulky to bring along, even car camping, and it seems like a lot for 2 people.

Just get something like this - they are nesting pots so actually one size can fit in another, but what I do is just have one size, and keep survival/cooking stuff/burner inside of it in my army bag. Makes too much sense to have a pot like this and not heat soup in a can like a bum.

Unless you plan on eating out all the time (which will get expensive really fast in Europe) you will want to carry some kind of stove and a pot.

This one is cheap and very popular. This set with two small pots included also seems nice. If you can't order from amazon you can also find them on eBay and the other usual Chinese sellers.

An other alternative would be an alcohol stove. Either selfmade from a soda can or something like a Trangia mini.

I think it would be interesting to throw you into the ultralighting scene immediately, but I know in my heart it would be cruel.

Tent: [$25] (http://www.amazon.com/Stansport-Backpack-Forest-6-Feet-X4-Feet/dp/B0006V2B2I/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&qid=1418161376&sr=8-26&keywords=bivy)

Nalgene water bottles: Get 2, ~$8 = $16

Sleeping bag: $50

Backpack: $35

Stove: $18

Cookset: $11

Flashlight: $6

Knife: $8

That all comes out to around $169. These are items to get you started. Everything will eventually be upgraded as you understand yourself as an outdoors(wo)man.

Cheers, SS. Eagle Scout. 800+ nights camped.

I also like Surefire EP3 Sonic Defender. 24dB reduction with "blocking" of sound above 85dB (works best for sharp sounds). Very comfortable once you are able to find the right fit. Ear canal width will be determined by EP3 Sonic Defenders (narrow ear canal) or EP4 Sonic Defenders (standard ear canal); both modes also denote sizes but that is for earlobe cavity (concha bowl) dimensions (most people are medium). Test out your ear canal with cheap disposable earplugs unless you have been told by doctor that you have a narrow ear canal.

Here's something that's much cheaper and much lighter. I bought this kit in December and I've used it several times. It's that cheap aluminum that can be bent with your bare hands. But you said "cheap and light", no mention of durability. That being said, treat it like something that can be easily damaged and it'll last a good long while. Treat it like it's made out of cast iron and it won't last a single trip. I've used mine several times and it's still in perfect shape, just the bottom outside is soot covered. I weighed just the frying pan & handle and it's 4.25oz (I bought this just for the frying pan. I consider the rest of this kit pretty useless. But hey, it's a $10 frying pan so still a win). It's big enough to fry a medium sized onion and pepper cut into strips, or a full pound chicken breast cut in half. Or, I'd guess a few eggs and modest serving of hashbrowns at the same time, as long as you don't mind the eggs and hashbrowns mixing together a bit. The lid can be used as a deep plate, also.


https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Camping-Cookware-5-Piece-Aluminum/dp/B0009PUR4A

Being on a budget, I went with an inexpensive pot set from Amazon and I have been very happy with it. My fuel canister and stove fit inside and it has proven to be fairly durable.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FQZEYWE/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I grabbed one of the personal camp stoves that uses small fuel bottles when Bookmans closed their sporting good store. Something like this https://www.amazon.com/Carabiner-Bisgear-Backpacking-Non-stick-Dishcloth/dp/B01HPA43SC/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1519657872&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=backpackign+camp+stove.

This means you can heat things and have an easier time starting fire. Dry/dead wood isn't always easily found and having one of these means less time prepping for food. I'd also bring matches and a lighter as 2X backups.

I've looked at some of the solar panels with LED lights. Those look really interesting and might be worth adding to my pack, though I have no experience with them.

If it helps, this is pretty similar for around the same price: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015SRB58U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This one has a foldable base instead of the fixed of that one, but otherwise it looks pretty close. I purchased the Amazon one a week ago, but haven't had a chance to test/use it yet so I can't speak to its usefulness/durability. It does seem at least decently constructed though, from my initial inspection.

Whatever stove you get you should get this camp oven to use on top of it. Muffin mix and water turn into gloriously moist treats. Baked pasta. It's only $20-$30 and worth every penny. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0009PURJA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491076772&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=coleman+camp+oven&dpPl=1&dpID=41qOyhYDuQL&ref=plSrch

Yeah I use a small butane tank with mine. I also have this small lightweight metal 2 pot combo set and the stove and butane tank fits inside it perfectly:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FQZEYWE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YdOWAb09TMGYY

Huh. Pure Outdoor looks to use the same supplier as Olicamp:

http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=124&cp_id=12404&cs_id=1240404&p_id=15324&seq=1&format=2
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https://www.amazon.com/Olicamp-Hard-Anodized-XTS-1-Litre/dp/B007OJKI2U/

I have the olicamp, and it is a great pot.

https://www.amazon.com/Olicamp-329000-Vector-Stove/dp/B007S3MPL4/
vs
http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=124&cp_id=12404&cs_id=1240404&p_id=15631&seq=1&format=2

and
https://www.amazon.com/Olicamp-Kinetic-Ultra-Titanium-Stove/dp/B007OJKI0M/
vs
http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=124&cp_id=12404&cs_id=1240404&p_id=15632&seq=1&format=2


so.... get the pot on amazon and the stoves from monoprice.

Coleman makes a fold-up camp oven that sits on top of a stove burner. I haven't used it but Bob Wells of CheapRVLivng.com seems to like them.

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000016462-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA

My partner and I road trip often and keep a little camp stove, a can of propane and a camp pot in our car. Would something like that work for you? You could get all that stuff for about $25 and that would help you heat up meals on the go. You could make endless combinations of beans, grains/rice and roasted or sauteed veggies - all prepped on Sundays.

https://smile.amazon.com/Petforu-Camping-Propane-Canister-Cooking/dp/B015SRB58U/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1506717442&sr=8-13&keywords=propane+camping+stove

i had those and they always fell out, im pretty happy with these though

https://smile.amazon.com/SureFire-Defenders-filtered-Earplugs-reusable/dp/B009T9QXXQ

https://smile.amazon.com/SureFire-Defenders-filtered-Earplugs-reusable/dp/B004DH7HMA


both the rubber and the foam versions work well for me, i have both becuase they are cheap and i lose shit all the time so i have a pair in the glove box, one in my desk, one in my toolbox lol

Just picked up this cookware set for 15

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00PTRLR6U/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Don't know if it is any good but the reviews look promising

Your stove is fairly heavy, you can save 9 oz with a BRS3000 (.9 oz) and a light aluminum or Ti pot. This is the cheapest way to lighten up if you want to stay with a cannister. A DIY ethanol stove is cheaper and lighter still.

Do you need such a heavy battery?

Are you bringing a phone?

I use this Toaks 750ml Ti pot. Weighs 3.8oz with stuff sack, and I use it to store and keep safe the rest of my cook kit plus some kitchen incidentals like coffee, tea bags, etc.

> some general car camping/trail pots for cooking

I never use the same pots for car camping and backpacking. All I need for backpacking is one kettle that's shaped to be easy to pour out of. Low wide pots are harder to pour from without spilling. Something like this. For car camping I like larger enamelware pots like this.

It is but don’t waste that money.



https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B4FY8YO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_QoRKAbBW18T9F



And then some Coleman butane/propane fuel from Walmart for $5


And then a good liter camp cup. I recommend this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007OJKI2U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_kvRKAbZDCD0DN


And then a French press.

You can be selfish:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F9ZTL6U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_-wRKAbS4WN09P


Or be the hero the platoon needs:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012FRA8UC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_myRKAbK7P7BYP

I wear the SureFire EP3's a lot- i work in the live events industry and they are awesome for still being able to hear a speaking voice while being in a very loud envirionment.

Camp Stove, great for stew

This is what I'm using now, but I don't use anything except the pot. I should have got something like this. It's more expensive but it's lighter and doesn't come with anything unnecessary. They both have stuff sacks.

Hey, I had that same pot! I really liked it but it was heavy. I found an aluminum one on amazon for really cheap.
I dig the outside-the-box thinking of your stove. Did you go looking for this or did you just come across it?


http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FQZEYWE

I've had these for a long time and love them. Cheap and won't fall out of your ear. If you open the little plugs you can carry on a conversation easily but any harmful noise is eliminated.

I have used an alcohol stove for about 6 years and I love it. I use mine with an MSR Titan Kettle but it is about $50. A cheap option would be to use a grease pot. Loads of people swear by them. You can buy one at Walmart too. The Toaks titanium pot is around $30. People also use this mug to cook water in and claim it will boil 2 cups. Here is another grease pot that people use.

You can make a windscreen for it out of lightweight aluminum flashing or heavy duty cooking foil.

several gallon freezer ziplocks are handy. and then just a few contractor bags for impromptu dry bags. I have one of these(just the burner) and it keeps food cost down in a big way. fuel is cheap and packs easy. if you're going somewhere with lots of mosquitos, I tend to forgo the tarp and get a small one person tent. also a machete/hatchet could come in handy for intimidating assholes. and if you are going around blackberry bushes, you can always wade out an adequate distance and then clear a camp spot with your machete, instant fortified safe camp.

here is a similar knock-off stove for half the price you listed. I have this one and it works well.

I also have this to go with it (look at the related products for in-stock options).

This setup is ok for one person with the right kind of meals. For two+ people I bring a whisperlite with a larger cookset but I'll also mention that my most often and preferred vehicle is the canoe, so weight is less of an issue to me than a hiker.

Like this https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000016462-Camp-Oven-13-5/dp/B0009PURJA

https://www.amazon.com.au/Petforu-Ultralight-Portable-Backpacking-Cookware/dp/B015SRB58U/ref=mp_s_a_1_212?crid=2KQCHM86Q1BSE&keywords=ultralight+hiking&qid=1557106020&s=gateway&sprefix=ultralight+h&sr=8-212

Something like this

SureFire EP3 Sonic Defenders filtered Earplugs, double flanged design, reusable, Clear, Medium https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0010HFAKC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EBe5Cb5AGF0V1

Those say EP3, but they are the EP2 design with only two major diameters on the canal plug.

MalloMe has a mess kit which is available for around 25 bucks on Amazon. Its pretty decent.

https://www.amazon.com/MalloMe-Camping-Cookware-Folding-10-Piece/dp/B01743BX1A/

I googled for everyone:

> 750ml mug-shaped titanium pot

And this came up. Looks cool.

I have that pot and got it from Amazon with a stove: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015SRB58U

The pot is alright but the handles will melt easily if they get nicked by flame. I didn't have any issues with offgassing but perhaps it is the rubber handles? The rubber could be cut off.

Howdy!

You can use a Coleman style oven on top of your campstove, http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-5010D700T-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409409170&sr=8-1&keywords=folding+camp+oven or a dutch oven to do your baking. (I use both)

I just ordered this Coleman Aluminum Mess Kit from amazon. Cheap, light, hopefully it will do the trick.

If you want the same exact design, here are two brands who make the same thing.

NuoYa001 or the Optimus Terra Weekend HE .95L Pot

https://www.amazon.com/TOAKS-POT-750-Titanium-750ml-Pot/dp/B009B98FGW

It is This set. Halulite I guess is the material?

What about a [40oz Kleen Kanteen] (https://www.amazon.ca/Klean-Kanteen-Stainless-40-Ounce-Brushed/dp/B0093IS19C/) and a 750ml Toaks pot? $90 CAD plus tax for the two together.

*Edit: didn't catch the part about being made in Canada. Guessing both of these are from China...

A camp oven, pizza stones to put inside to hold heat, and a pan for it.

$15.96 for MSR Alpine Stowaway Pot

30% off Therm-a-Rest RidgeRest Classic

Amazon

There are camping ovens designed to work on a cooktop. http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-5010D700T-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA

http://www.amazon.com/Surefire-Sonic-Defender-Protection-Medium/dp/B0010HFAKC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380740875&sr=8-1&keywords=Surefire+EP3

Another option is to get this super small backpacking stove ($12) and this backpacking cookware kit ($12) and you can use it to boil water for coffee/tea and make ramen or get one of those dehydrated meal packs at REI/any sporting goods store. I prefer this since there's not really any cleanup involved

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009B98FGW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1465500857&sr=8-3&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=titanium+pot+backpacking&dpPl=1&dpID=41U7k4-BtyL&ref=plSrch

I own this and love it.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B00FQZEYWE/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511926435&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Camping+pot&dpPl=1&dpID=41c8oo9DstL&ref=plSrch

Get some surefire plugs. They have a port for pressure equalization.

"No cook bags" simply means that the food inside doesn't require cooking and typically don't require refrigeration. So you'll get things like sandwiches and chips and packaged fruit, things which don't require heating/cooking to eat or refrigeration to keep stable.

The problem with camp stoves is that it requires the owner to carry it around with them (lest it get stolen), and it requires fuel which is both expensive and potentially dangerous. Many of the homeless I've encountered make do with hobo stoves — typically metal cans (like coffee cans) with holes punched in the bottom for airflow and a small grate to go over the top. Start a fire with some sticks and leaves, add a piece of wood or a bit of charcoal for fuel, and cook right on top of it. Canned foods (soups, stews, etc) are popular for this, and with the addition of a cheap mess kit (like this) you can cook small meals reasonably well.

They may have stopped making these

https://www.amazon.ca/Coleman-Company-5010D700T-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA#

Ugh, I wonder if I can do one in a springform pan (not necessarily releasing it). We're downsizing and most of my bakeware is in storage, of course including my souffle and tart dishes. I soon will be experimenting with a stovetop oven and reporting results!

Stove: BSR Ultralight stove

Spoon: Toaks Ti Long handle

Pot: Toaks Ti 750ml

Fire: Bic Mini

Seasoning: Tabasco in 30ml plastic dripper bottle

Water bottle: Smart Water 1L (x2)

Purification: Boil (winter) Sawyer Squeeze (other 3 seasons)

Meals: Mountain House, Packit Gourmet, SPAM singles, trail mix

I eat right out of the bag for the dehydrated meals

I'll remember that for next time. I've already packed it all away, but I might drag it out and take some pics. My foot is pretty banged up so it'll be a minute. But Ill give you a short list :)

Pack: Osprey Exos 58

Sleeping Bag: Teton Sports Tracker

Tent: ALPS Mountaineering Lynx 1

Tarp: Ultimate Survival Hex tarp

Mess kit: Mess kit and Mug

Water Filtration: Sawyer Mini

Tools/Defense: Note: Normally I would only take one knife, but I wasn't sure which I would prefer as they're two quite different blades. Ka-Bar Becker BK2, Condor Bushlore, and Bear Spray

Stove: MSR PocketRocket

First Aid: I had the Adventure Medical Kits Day Tripper, and then added to that with Celox and an Israeli Bandage

Trekking Poles: Cascade Mountain Tech CF with Cork Grips

In addition I had a few little things in a small kit; Ferro rod, duct tape, trail blazes, chemical water purifiers in case my Sawyer failed, bug spray, a small thing of sunscreen (which I didn't end up needing as it was overcast), deodorant, TP, etc.

I think it is really good already but if you wanted to lose some oz for $$$:

• Could save 5 oz on new pad. Neo-Air Xlite but kinda stupid expensive.
  
  
• Could lose 4 oz on new pot. This is 3.9 oz
  
  
• Poop shovel seems heavy. 3 oz down to 0.6 oz with this.
  
  
• Could find a lighter rain jacket but again prob not worth $$$