I don't see any comments so I'll offer my advice. Take it with a grain of salt, as I'm always browsing r/buildapcsales and definitely more of a price/performance builder.

First of all, an $800 build with a 5700 and an SFF case and PSU is unlikely. Here's my recommendations

A Ryzen 5 3600 is like double the price of a 2600 for only 15% more speed. A 2600 is already a really solid CPU for gaming. Unless he's a hardcore gamer and streamer with a hardon for ultra settings games, I'd suggest the Ryzen 5 2600 or 2600x. On Black Friday, 2600 prices will probably drop to around $90 (they've been dropping to around $100 recently). Currently on Amazon for $118.

Really good choice in LPX RAM - that specific set actually dropped to $56 the other week and will be hopefully down again on BF.

A 5700 is fine in terms of price to performance, but if you really do want to get below your budget but still want really good performance, I'd suggest jumping on this deal asap: EVGA 1660ti for $255 on sale through Best Buy (originally $320), and you can use the first time shopping code (SHOPNEW19) for $20 off your first purchase using a google account/credit card combination you haven't used before. That effectively makes the 1660ti a $230 deal, and the 5700 (usually blowers are on sale for at best $280) performs only 30% better, sure, but you're going for a budget build, and a 1660ti can already handle anything for 1080p gaming. Even if 5700 prices drop lower on Black Friday, chances are the 1660ti will still end up being on sale for a better price/performance deal. Also should be noted that 5700's that do drop below $280 are usually blowers, and these can be very, very loud. Ultimately, check out userbenchmark, sort GPUs by value, and compare to figure out what's the best fit for you.

Not a bad SSD/HDD combination, but keep your eye out on Black Friday. Chances are that 1 TB SSDs will drop below $80.

With regards to PSU, EVGA is generally a cheaper line with still very good quality SFX PSUs. Their customer support is a lot better in my experience, but others may disagree. This 450W PSU was on sale for $69 the other day. Idk if it's your first time building, but do keep in mind to not vastly overestimate the wattage PSU you need. So many people buy 650W PSUs when they really only need to use 380W, which should only warrant buying a 450 or 550W PSU. I'd recommend this wattage calculator.

Finally, if you're really trying to do a budget build, keep an eye out on r/buildapcsales. Check early and check often. There was a sale today for a super high-end 1 TB m.2 NVME SSD that was $80, but it was sold out on Amazon in under an hour. Often times, the best deals will be sold out by the time they make it to hot. r/buildapcsales and r/sffpc are the only two subreddits I ever sort by new on lol. Again, I'm not sure how experienced you are with PC building, but make sure you're buying components of the specs that you want. There are times where I've gotten over-excited and seen a $48 RAM deal, but it turned out to be only 3000 mhz instead of 3200. Then again there have also been times where I've seen RAM prices and been like "wow, that's not even that good a deal," and then realized it was $100 for 32 GB and not 16 GB.

Afterword: Keep in mind that it's probably best to wait until Black Friday if you really want to play it safe price-wise. Don't buy everything from the same place at once if you want to save money. Buy from the credible sellers with the best prices at the best times. I've been exclusively buying from links off of r/buildapcsales and ended up with a $900 SFF build capable of all the gaming I'll need to do in college. And that's after spending $220 on a sexy SM550 case.

CPU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07STGGQ18/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

The Ryzen 5 3600 is all you really need. I doesn't require any overclocking to be a powerful and capable CPU. The stock cooler will work fine with this processor. It'll handle moderate workstation and 1080p-2160p gaming just fine.

GPU: https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rx-5700-xt-challenger-d-8g-oc/p/N82E16814930020?Description=5700&cm_re=5700-_-14-930-020-_-Product

Damn, the RX 5700 from Pulse was in stock yesterday and it's now already out of stock. The ASRock Challenger D model is the best I could think of now, as the Mech OC is the basically the same as the Ventus OC, which also runs pretty hot. If you want to wait for a better model, you can, but no guarantees that it'll be in stock soon. If you want slightly better thermals over better performance, this 2060 Super can also be considered: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Gaming-RTX-2060-Super/dp/B07V1Q4L2Z/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=2060+super&qid=1568248713&sr=8-11.

RAM: https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331285?Item=N82E16820331285

The T-Force Delta is actually one of the better under $80 16GB kits out there. It features good RGB as well as a decent build quality. It's definitely worth a try as many people seem to like it.

SSD: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07LGF54XR/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A29Y8OP2GPR7PE&psc=1

The Sabrent Rocket seems to be one of the SSD market leaders in price to performance. This is probably the best performing SSDs you'll find that is under the $120 price tag. I think 1TB is enough for games and a good number of files, but you can always add a Seagate 2TB Hard Drive for more storage.

MOBO: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144262?Item=N82E16813144262

This is a very decent X570 motherboard at an awesome price. It has many 5 star reviews on many different retailer websites. This motherboard also supports OC, PCIe 4.0, and Mystic Light RGB Sync. Overall, just another great motherboard from MSI. Works with the 3600 out of the box.

PSU: https://www.newegg.com/evga-600-bq-110-bq-0600-k1-600w/p/N82E16817438100?Item=N82E16817438100

This power supply should be enough, as the power draw of the GPU+CPU are around 300 watts combined. This leaves a comfortable 300W for other components and possible overclocking. This is also semi-modular and 80+ bronze rated, which will have decent cable management and power efficiency. There is also a $15 rebate on this product, as well as a 3 year warranty.

CASE: https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p300-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854068?Item=N82E16811854068

The Phanteks P300 is probably one of the best $60 PC case out there, tied with the View 31, in my opinion. It has a lot of room to build in (supports some E-ATX boards) as well as above-average airflow. Overall, it is one of my top picks in lower-mid-range cases.

FANS: https://www.newegg.com/corsair-co-9050082-ww-case-fan/p/N82E16835181157?Item=N82E16835181157

The Phanteks P300 doesn't include a lot of fans, and you'll need some fans to improve the airflow due to possibly having a warm GPU. The AF120s should get the job done at a good price.

Monitor Recommendation: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GD7H18F/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Take a look at this monitor. It features FreeSync, a Curved Display, and a 144Hz Refresh Rate. This monitor will be able to take advantage of your PC's power (not like one of my friend, who has a 60hz monitor paired with an RTX 2070), while not using a lot of your budget. The C24G1 is built with a VA panel, which allows it to have better color contrast than TN panels, while not sacrificing response times. As a bonus, AOC also has a 3-Year "No Dead Pixels" warranty in case of a defect.

Everything should total up to around $1275 before all taxes and promotions. This build includes a mixture of components from Amazon and Newegg's website. If you already have a G-Sync monitor, then spend $90 extra and get a RTX 2070 Super from Amazon to take full advantage of that.

/u/JetJaguar124 /u/Integralds

So first thing's first, Windows: ~$130 for Home Edition.

Okay, so things to keep in mind:

1. If you go Intel, overclocking isn't too great on 9th gen intel, especially if you don't have a beefy aftermarket cpu cooler. So if you don't plan on doing that at some point then you don't need a K series CPU and an overclocking motherboard. So your motherboard should primarily focus on giving you decent I/O options.
   
   
2. You also probably want to aim for 1080p or 1440p tops, given your price range.
   
   
3. Related to #1: If you don't plan on overclocking then a basic-ish mobo will do fine, and you mainly want to focus on I/O and other features. If you are getting Intel doubly so, as, as I mentioned before, intel 9th gen doesn't overclock well due to relatively low headroom to begin with. For intel overclocking boards are "Z" while non-overclocking boards are "B". For AMD they are "X" and "B" respectively.
   
   The GPU you should be seeking to use is the 1660 Ti, which is basically a slightly gimped RTX 2060 but without the raytracing stuff. If you are willing to spend a bit more then you could get an RX 5700 instead, which is nearly ~30% faster on average.
   
   That'll put you at $270 - $360 depending on the model you pick. Yes, it's a third of your budget, but the GPU is the single most important part of your build.
   
   Secondly you'll want a decent CPU to go with that.
   
   The Ryzen 5 3600 looks like a pretty good CPU, its a bit under $200, its fairly beefy and extendable so it's somewhat "future-proof" - in that it shouldn't cause much bottlenecking and you could upgrade your GPU past a 2080 Ti before needing to change the processor.
   
   This MSI Tomohawk Mobo looks good for the 3600.
   
   So we're at ~$320 for that, or about $640 total. Plus windows that is ~$730.
   
   The RAM Inty recommended before should be fine. You only really need 16 GB. This will set you back ~$80. If you find yourself wanting more RAM later down the line you can always add another pair of sticks later and double up your RAM.
   
   That puts us at around ~$800.
   
   $80 for a 750W Fully Modular Corsair PSU is basically a steal. It's refurbished though, although that shouldn't be a problem - especially with a PSU.
   
   We're at ~$880.
   
   Some good thermal paste for your CPU.
   
   We're now at ~$890.
   
   Storage depends on what you want to do. Do you install a lot of stuff and files at once? In which case you might want to get a nice sized SSD plus a big HDD.
   
   For your system drive. Plenty of space, good price, AND its an nvme SSD.
   
   That makes for ~$990.
   
   If you need lots of extra space
   
   If you need extreme extra space
   
   Keyboard and case are up to you, decide as you please. For the case just make sure that it can support an ATX mobo, as the mobo listed here is full ATX. Mechanical keyboards are crack, but they tend to be more expensive so they're probably out of range. This will be another $100 to $150 depending on what you pick.
   
   Something to keep in mind though: Your case and your monitors are basically "future proof". In other words, they won't really get "worse" with time or cause future performance issues. So monitors and case are things where you want to consider what you'll eventually want and buy ahead, even if you have to stretch a bit.
   
   This just leaves your monitor. I would NOT recommend a 1080p monitor above 24 in. Honestly, if you can go for a 1440p monitor then do it. I'm a bit of a resolution whore tho, so if 1080p works for you then that's fine. I would also avoid TN panels - they tend to look more washed out, tinny, and have worse viewing angles . . . although they also tend to be a fair bit cheaper than the good panels (namely IPS panels).
   
   I used to own one of these . . . it was vvy vvy gud. This is a relatively artsy monitor, so if color gamut correctness or whatever is important for you for photo or video editing or whatever, then this is a good pick. It's a bit expensive, yeah, but also super gorgeous. It also goes up to 75 Hz. Conversely, get a freesync monitor, and this one is probably good - haven't done much research on it, but Dells are generally pretty good in my experience (my current 4K monitor is a Dell too). Freesync will allow you to basically eliminate screen tearing and will provide a smoother feeling experience because it will even out frame rates better.
   
   One last thing to keep in mind: Shopping around on ebay and other sites can save you a fair bit. My rule of thumb is to never, ever buy sensitive parts like hard-drives, cpus, or motherboards second hand or refurbished. But everything else is fair game. So refurbished GPUs, Monitors, PSUs, Cases, etc. should be fine. Pre-owned? Ehhh . . . that I'm much, much more sketchy on - personally I wouldn't, but that's just me.
   
   So in total it'd be somewhere in the range of $1500 including monitor, OS, case, and keyboard. The system itself is around $1000. But you can perhaps knock off a hundred bucks or two by shopping around and looking for where you can buy these parts cheaper than Amazon.
   
   But again: investing in a good monitor and case can be worth it. It means you won't have to replace it if/when you do upgrade. And worst case scenario you can offload your monitor as a side/secondary monitor when you upgrade your monitor to a new one.

Your google-fu is weak;
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00D3IKKVA/ref=asc_df_B00D3IKKVA18250740?smid=A5Y5ZDGV1AKXL&tag=pricerunner-ce-3p-21&linkCode=df0&creative=22242&creativeASIN=B00D3IKKVA&ascsubtag=uk,27816,SEO,35,google;f0120409ba673673d3b6c8cdf09c7ccf

For reference, I paid 115$ for mine, and at 79 pounds the conversion rate is equal to about 133$.

You said you were planning on overclocking in another reply of yours, if that's the case I recommend the i5 4670k (Pretty sure you said you added it to your parts list in the other reply). If that's the case, I would recommend either the NZXT Kraken X40; http://www.amazon.co.uk/NZXT-Technologies-Premium-Performance-RL-KRX40-01/dp/B00ANJRTYS (98£) if you want to use a closed loop CPU cooler (you'll need a case that has 140mm fan mounts for the X40, but other CLC's use 120mm fans which makes them quite a bit louder, so it's a fair trade-off)

Or, the Noctua NH-D14; http://www.amazon.co.uk/NH-D14-Processor-LGA1366-LGA1156-LGA1155/dp/B002VKVZ1A (66£) if you want to go the air-cooling route. The NH-D14 comes with two 140mm fans and has mounts for 120mm and 140mm fans should you decide to change them out; personally, I wouldn't recommend doing that, since the two fans that come with it are some of the best 140mm PWM fans on the market, and because they too will be quieter in operation than their 120mm alternatives.

In reality, an NH-D14 will be fine for overclocking. It may max out at 95c in synthetic benchmarks, but in reality, you could game in the high 70's/low 80's, depending on ambient temperature, at 4.2-4.4Ghz, depending on how your chip performs. As long as the core voltage isn't over 1.25, you'll be fine. If you want something with a little bit better temperatures, or with more headroom to overclock, the NZXT Kraken X40 is the way to go.

It all depends on how much you want to spend, but the cheapest overclocking setup I could recommend to you, with the Asrock H87 Fatal1ty motherboard, i5-4670k, and NH-D14, buying all of these components off of Amazon, (Link for the i5 4670k; http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Graphics-BX80646I74770-Generation-Technology/dp/B00CO8TBOW (167£) would be an extra 125£ cost for your budget, bringing your total to 685£. Not to mention you'd need a higher-wattage PSU, something in the 700-750 watt range, like the Seasonic X-750 Fully Modular PSU; http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-X-750-module-ATX12V-Supply/dp/B002VAFDQS/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1397013585&sr=1-1&keywords=SeaSonic+SS-750KM3 (140£)

So, to build an overclocking system, with solid, name brand, quality components all the way around, it'd cost you 230£ extra, bringing your total cost to 790£, or 1325$ american. And that's if you get the NH-D14. With the NZXT Kraken X40, with another fan on it along with the fan it comes with, would be 840£, or 1400$ american. Without the extra fan it'd be 820£; 1375$

And with the PCI wireless card it'd be 855£; add a blu-ray combo drive and a 770 instead of a 760, and it's 950£

Or, you could just get the i5 4670, the fastest locked quad-core i5 at 3.4Ghz, for 158£, which with the PCI adapter would bring your build total to 595£, or just under one thousand dollars american. With the Blu-ray drive also it'd run you about 645£, bringing your grand total to 1080$ american.

The reason I spent the last two hours reading reviews, looking up links, and sorting through statistics, is because I wanted to show that overclocking is not cheap. You'd be paying another 320$ american, or 192£, for another 10-20% performance. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just trying to illustrate the true cost associated with it. Not to mention that for the NH-D14 or the NZXT x40, you'd need to move up to a full-size case, which would add further to the cost. My point is, that if you're new to this and just want a capable gaming machine for 1080p, you'd be much better off just getting the 4670, wireless card, and blu-ray combo drive; http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-BC-12D2HT-Blu-ray-Combo-Drive/dp/B00F0SQL6O/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1397014362&sr=1-6 (50£).

If this is something that really interests you, that you know you're going to invest a lot of hours in and not get bored of, then go ahead and pull the trigger on the overclocking build. If you do, it'd be worth it to save up enough to get a 770 instead of a 760, since it's about 10-20% ahead of the 760, performance wise. Your total cost would be 950-1000£.

tl;dr If you want a nice rig, use the i5 4670, get the wireless card and blu-ray combo drive, and have fun. If you want to turn this into a hobby, and you're willing to spend time (and a whole lot more money) on it, then get the 4670k, AsRock Fatal1ty H87, NH-D14, Seasonic X-750, and 770. And the wireless card and Blu-ray combo drive.

I hope I've fully illustrated the pros and cons of overclocking. It's not for everyone, and to be totally honest it can be the motherfucking-est pain in the ass at times (from mounting big-ass heavy heatsinks and spending hours researching technical details, and ultimately developing a huge knowledge and understanding of the subject that you can't talk about with anyone besides people on the internet) but in all honesty, I love it. You might too. I just wanted to be totally honest and up-front about the extra cost and difficulties, because it's totally fine if it's not something you'd want to get into.

Looks alright. I wouldn't reccomend Ryzen chips. I would probably get something more like an i7 6700k or the 6700 (which is around $20 cheaper if you can't justify the price) for gaming. If you end up choosing an Intel CPU you'll have to choose a different Mobo as well but there are lots of good ones.

I'd reccomend getting an entry level 144Hz Screen. If you can stretch to something like this I would seriously reccomend it, though it's not going to hurt you if you don't. I think it was Jake from LG Evil that made T500 early in the game on a Mac Book running OW in wine.

I personally don't like any gaming Headsets other than the HyperX Clouds. There is a huge quality difference between them and any other "gaming" headsets I have used.

As far as mice and keyboards, I would probably just buy a nice cheap Keyboard to begin with because there are no benefits really to having a good keyboard if you're on a budget. A mouse is kinda personal, I use a Steel Series Rival 100 but am a palm style user and am completely arm aim. It's a good cheap mouse but you may want something else if your grip style is different. My brother plays claw and doesn't mind it though.

Parts and gear you should prioritise for Overwatch are: Good GPU. 6GB 1060s are plenty for overwatch unless you want to be running the game at consistently over 240FPS (here's Taimou's settings btw. These will help with you configuring your settings for Overwatch). A fast CPU (Overwatch can be very CPU dependant). SSDs are kinda nice and fairly cheap. If you have a SSD btw you're at a direct benefit to most other players because you load in matches faster and can therefore instalock first, if that's your thing. :P Monitors are the most important peripheral by far in my opinion, followed closely by mice. If you're not getting a 144Hz screen now, you'll want one eventually (you won't need one but you'll want one). The only other peripheral that is important for Overwatch specifically is a mouse. This is one of those what suits your style things and there's no real correct answer but for First Person Shooters you usually want a nice light fast mouse. Ideally with 2 buttons on the side of the mouse for binding melee and voice. Just don't get a Razer and you'll be fine.

I'd probably ask on /r/buildapc as well because they'll probably give you better advice than this sub will. Best of luck dude with your transition to PC. Hope this helps.

Edit: oh and Mousepad! In the beginning I'd reccomend a nice control style mouse pad for getting used to using a mouse for aiming. I can't reccomend you any though because I have always used the mats that come in WoW TCG boxes since a family member has heaps of them and I've never used any other control style mats. The bigger the better.

>I was looking at ordering an xbox one or PS4 but decided to upgrade my PC instead.

Good choice :P
Glad to see you're British, makes it easier to suggest things in my currency.
Gaming is around 80% graphics card, maybe a little less, but you want to be spending a good third of any budget into it. Here's my recommended upgrade for you:

Processor: Intel i5 4670k (Haswell)

Motherboard: To support your speedy processor, you're going to need this.
That motherboard is amazing, you'll be able to overclock to 5.0GHz +

Now we're up to about £300.

Graphics card: Let's put around £350 into this. This is an amazing card, will run absolutely any game at max settings @ 1080p really well.
EDIT: Just re-read and you want AMD I see. This is also very good. Stays cool and performs really well

Now for some better RAM. Upgrading to DDR3 here: 8GB (Easily all you need for any game)

You will need a bigger case too. This is a stunning case (You can change the colour). You can see inside clearly, and looks amazing with loads of space inside.

The rest of your current spec is fine. Hope this helped, good luck.
Comes out to around £671 and will play anything at all at max settings.

Alrighty then. Let's do this.

You said he is saying in the video the pc manages to crawl 30 fps on GTA V on Ultra Settings, which is, let me tell you, fucking unplayable over time. Anything below 60 fps imo is pure cancer to play with over a long term especially when it comes to a fps which is heavily relying on a good fps count (60+). I really advise you to inform yourself a little with the overall shananigans that are happening inside and outside of your pc. It crucial knowledge that you can use to make good decisions.

Starting on FPS (Frames / Second)

Generally you want over 60fps so you can actually play the game. Play? Yes, first person shooters are UNPLAYABLE without constant 60 fps, I've been playing shooters for ~7 years now, so I roundabout know what I am talking about here. The first graphics intense shooter I played was Battlefield: BadCompany 2 on about 25 fps average on a crappy Toshiba laptop (don't buy toshiba laptops, please don't). Let me tell you, it's a pain in the ass and you don't want to endure the same as me back then.

Deconstructing the Part List

• Processor: Intel G3258 4 Pentium 3.20 GHz 3M Cache 2 Core
  
  The fact that I don't see an "i" in the processors name combined with a "budget gaming pc" gives me slight creeps. When you're building a pc you want to play on, and you're building one with a Intel-based processor, please make sure you're using atleast a i3 or i5. Anything below that won't make you happy over a long run. Speaking from experience.
  
  
• Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB Kit (4GBx2) DDR3 1600
  
  These are absolutely fine for the price and honestly probably the absolute best choice you can make when building a budget pc.
  THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE WITH THESE IN THIS BUILD IS THAT YOU CAN'T UNLEASH THEIR FULL POWER. If you ask why, the reason for that is simple. The processor in the amazon link states in the description:
  >2 Channel DDR3-1333 memory support
  
  Excuse me, what? Supports 1333Mhz? Your Memory is supposed to be run on 1666Mhz. This is quite a cut in efficiency memory wise, and at this point this build seems like total bs to me. It's like I tell you to go running, but you have to take a backpack filled with stones with you at all times.
  
  
• Motherboard: ASUS H81M-A MicroATX DDR3 1333
  
  Someone please take a set of jumper cables and hit me with them, again this motherboard locks your RAM (memory) speed to 1333Mhz. As a rule of thumb stay away from motherboards pricetagged below 80 bucks, most of these are serious trash. The amazon description is filled with, you guessed right, nothing. Not one technical spec except "TOTALLY FAST USB3" and 1333Mhz RAM speed. Wow.
  
  
• HDD: Seagate 1TB Desktop HDD SATA 6Gb/s
  
  Let me tell you something, seagate hard drives are fine imo, but not for todays standards. I'd really advise you to get a SSD, which are way faster. Your Windows will boot within seconds (I am serious, mine boots in about 6) and so will your games.
  
  If you just want to store files, HDDs are the way to go because they are so cheap. But when you install and boot your Operating System on a HDD, you will sit minutes to get to the boot screen and booting takes half a eternity and that surely doesnt get better over time.
  
  

  At this point I just want to point out that this piece of s*** just used "Amazon's goes great together" algorithm and pretty much nothing else.
  

  
  

• Graphics card: ZOTAC GeForce GTX 750 Ti
  
  Seems reasonable, its a small card, but price/performance seems adequate here. It's always hard to pick on specific niche graphics cards because they all perform somewhat different. Don't expect super hard ultra graphics with this one, but imaginably most games should run on it acceptably at middle settings.
  
  
• Case: Rosewill Dual Fans MicroATX Mini Tower
  
  Well, what can I say here. It's a MicroATX case (thats a form factor for cases reaching from miniATX to ATX). So do me one favor if you decide to do your build in one of these, please make sure you have enough space and air around your pc, it will need it. Everything is very tight-packed in a MicroATX case, because theres literally no space whatsoever. This makes it hard for air to transport the heat out, which can drastically decrease your pc's performance over hours of playing.
  
  
• PSU (Power Supply Unit): EVGA 500 W1 80+, 500W
  
  Yes, no, I don't really know here. My rule of thumb again is to buy only beQuiet psus because they have serious quality behind the price. Don't get me wrong EVGA is a really ok manufacturer, but I wouldn't set my 2k$ rig on the risk of being fried because the power supply has a bad day. I mean technically I can give you a yes to use it in a budget build, but a definite no if you want to build something of higher quality. ~40 bucks +- just doesn't suit my sense of a magical box that is in charge to keep your parts intact for years. Use it, but be aware of that.
  
  

  Conclusion
  

  
  Please do not build this PC, I am sure LinusTechTips builds are way stabler and better thought through for their price tags. I really do not recommend TechSource for pc builds, his videos look very view generating and zero effort to me. His entire "benchmark" video for the pc is a dubstep compilation for games, where it would be sad if they'd perform any worse then shown. Like seriously, Heroes of the Storm? Blade and Soul? these are not really graphic intese games and have not really stable grounds to be benchmarked with. Same with csgo. I have easy 300fps+ in cs, but you can probably run csgo on a toaster if you know how.
  
  On a side note, the GTA V gameplay looks so smooth because it was filmed by an external camera which smoothes the frames to 30 fps. This is quite a dirty trick. He could've used the actual footage he took with fraps (the thingy that records your screen) and shows you the fps in the top left corner), but he did this on purpose because he knows the results are drastically different when you see the raw footage instead.
  
  
  This took me a bit, so If you find it helpful please give it a upvote.**
  
  If you have any questions regarding anything, please, just ask. Doesn't cost you anything and I won't blame you either.
  
  Tagging /u/effoxs, /u/SheepRoll, /u/Marrked, /u/morepandas, /u/tooDank_dot_js.
  
  If the peeps over at /r/buildapc or /r/buildmeapc decide to take it on this build I'd be glad if you could link them to this comment so they don't have to redo this.
  
  

Apparently Amazon's chat-based customer support likes to play the same agent shuffle that most telephone CS services do. Anyway, below is the transcript of my conversation with them. I don't know if they received any stock initially, but as of now it seems we're stuck waiting for them to receive stock from Intel.

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>Me: I would like to check the status of the Intel i9-9900k item I pre-ordered on Oct. 8th. The status for this item previously showed the item would release or arrive by the 19th of this month, and now there is no estimate of delivery.
>
>You are now connected to Sanju from Amazon.com
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CPU: Just realized the Microcenter price carried over on this which sucks if you're not near one.. Only thing you'd loose is the overclock ability. Price should be about $209.99 from Amazon which should bring the total build price to ~$760

MOBO: I've seen it recommended with the Pentium G3528 or something for overclocking, was inexpensive, couldn't go wrong really. Doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the more expensive boards but we don't really need those as of yet (just wait until your friend really gets into gaming/custom PCs.. most of the premium boards are for looks IMO, but dammit I like my PC to look badass :p )

RAM: can drop to 2 x 2gb if you need to shave the price some. I put in 8gb just so you wouldn't have to upgrade that later. There shouldn't be any need to bump it further unless your friend starts running a bunch of crap simultaneously and needs it all open or starts doing some large video editing/rendering

STORAGE: 1 TB is a good place to start, an SSD for the OS would be great as well if you can find a good, inexpensive one and allows for the HDD to be used for more extra. You can grab a 2TB Seagate drive for $30 more, but I'm not sure how they perform or how reliable they can be so that's up to you

GPU: 750Ti is still the entry point to 1080p gaming, I believe. It'll do fine for everyday stuff and if he decides to pick up light gaming in the beginning

CASE: seems pretty solid, has room for 3 more SSDs/HDDs when/if you want them. Decent airflow and cable management stuff. If you notice heating/airflow issues then you can slap some fans in there

PSU: seasonic is supposedly one of the best brands to go with, 80+ Gold rating is hard to beat with that.. You can get an EVGA 750W for about $10 more but I wasn't sure how far you planned to upgrade (like SLI and stuff) so I left it high enough for something like a single GTX970 to still do well.

OS: Personal preference.. I like 8.1 over 7. The metro stuff doesn't take too much to get used to and the OS just feels a bit more optimized over 7.

NOTES: If you need to, you can remove the GPU and get one later. The i5's HD4600 can do decently well on its own, but you will need a GPU for some of the heavier games your friend may or may not get in to.

Didn't add a monitor but left enough of a budget in there for you to choose one to your/your friend's liking

I didn't add a cooler like the 212 EVO as I don't think you'd be overclocking straight out of the gate. You can add one in there for another $30 or so if you want to

DISCLAIMER: THIS BUILD WAS MADE WITH GAMING DOWN THE ROAD IN MIND AS TO MINIMIZE LATER UPGRADE COSTS.

That being said, someone else may come along and throw a more inexpensive alternative out that leans more towards general use (which you really don't need the top-of-the-line i5 for)

> They are about the same price, while the Radeon seems to have a little bit better performance, while the GTX 960 uses less power. What do you think on that?

The difference in performance is not that small. I'd go with the R9 380 – apart from the higher energy use it has no drawback.

> A lot of reviews said, that the i3 is definitely faster, but not future proof since it only has two cores.

2 cores but 4 threads, which so far means that all games that rely on more than two cores run perfectly fine. The i3-6100 is a great gaming cpu and will be faster than the i5-6400 in many games, as it has a higher clock. Not that the i5-6400 would be too slow in practice.

> I don't really know a lot about chipsets and how taking the best one are relevant in a gaming PC.

They aren't. The problem with H110 boards is that they have only two ramslots, maxing out your mainboard with your two 4GB sticks, which will be an issue later. Get 1x8GB, and better a B150 board with 4 ramslots to not have this problem.

> Corsair VS 450W ATX Power Supply

That's not a good idea

> Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB - 62€

That's too expensive for that SSD. The 120GB model of the Sandisk Plus is a great budget pick for 40€. but 62€ is too near to the better SSDs, like the UltraII or Samsung 850 Evo.

Altogether, I think this would be a good build for your friend:

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Type|Item|Price

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CPU | Intel Core i3-6100 | EUR 118,50 @ Amazon.de
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H | EUR 73,90 @ Cyberport
Memory | Crucial CT8G4DFD8213 (8 GB) | EUR 26,01 @ Amazon.de
SSD | SanDisk Ultra II 240 (256 GB) | EUR 65,99 @ Amazon.de
Video Card | Radeon R9 380 | EUR 188,28 @ Amazon.de
Case | Cooler Master N300 | EUR 45,70 @ Amazon.de
Power Supply | Super Flower Golden Green HX (450 W) | EUR 69,21 @ Amazon.de
| Total | €590.58
| Generated by pc-kombo 23.05.2016 |

Be aware that AMD might (paper-)release new gpus on the 1th of June that could replace the R9 380 with a faster alternative. Doesn't matter if you want a PC now, but something to check if it takes some time.

Just my opinion, I am no expert, but these seem like the best choices as they are popular, and consideration how much work it would take to design them.
Also check the most popular on Amazon, Newegg and PC part picker.

CPUs from one socket look almost the same right?
So a LGA 1151 and AM3+ CPUs.

For RAM, classic PCB with black chips, maybe another one with a very simple heatspreader in different colors, as it would take quite a lot of work to create realistic heatspreaders for little benefit IMO.

Any HDD, they all look similar.

For SSDs, Samsung are the most popular and very simple to do.

Three most popular CPU coolers prolly are CRYORIG H7, Hyper 212 EVO, and Corsair H100i, maybe with addition of a single fan AIO like Corsair H55.

GPUs are tougher:

• definitely MSI twin frozr, they use them for most cards
  
• ASUS new strix
  
• Gigabyte G1 Gaming as for 1070 and 1080 and Windforce for smaller cards
  
• EVGA hates you, it seems like they have a different design for every card, but the most popular for enthusiasts could be ACX 3.0 used with 1070 and 1080
  
  Motherboards and cases: the hardest parts to pick, almost every one part is completely different from the other.
  Just go by the most popular.
  
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> I currently have an AMD FX 6300 6-Core Black Edition 3.5ghz AM3+ processor sitting on my shelf that is currently incompatible with my motherboard. It seats in the chip slot correctly, but isn't recognized upon boot-up. I built this PC 7 years ago, now, and most of the components have been replaced aside from my AMD Phenom II X2 560 Duo Core Processor, which seems to be the choking point for my performance, so I'm hoping to upgrade to the AMD FX 6300.
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> I was curious if any of you would be able to point me towards a decent motherboard that would be compatible with this newer processor.
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> The rest of my specs are as follows:
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> OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro v10.0.16299 Build 16299
> System Type: x64-based PC
> BIOS Version/Date: American Megatrends Inc. 1702, 12/22/2010
> Corsair 8 GB of DDR3 RAM (4 sticks of 2 GB each)
> * Corsair GS 700 W Power Supply
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> so Im thinking about buying a 21:9 ultrawide monitor but I dont really know which one to buy, the ones Im considering are the LG 34UC98-W and Samsung C34F791, which ones of these 2 should I pick and what other monitors should I also consider?

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> Anyone know of an uber cheap 720p monitor I can get in-store somewhere? I’m reviving an old PC and don’t have a monitor to use (notice the laptop flair), I’ve got it working from what I can tell and I need a monitor. Can be any refresh rate above 30hz and any non-CRT tech for all I care, just like under $70 and can pick up at BestBuy, Walmart, Staples, Office Max, etc. ASAP. Mostly looking for 480p or higher, LCD or better, thinking mostly of 1280x720 or 1366x768 but I’ll take oddballs in the 20-24” range and 31+hz (no peasantry, not even in a build from 2006).
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> I’m gonna keep the monitor so I can have it for using this PC as I’m planning on getting an actual gaming rig soon, which will have a much better monitor I just don’t want to use the same one for both. My dad already had this laying around and I have only spent $30 on parts so far, so hey why not, if I can get an LCD/LED in a usable resolution that the hardware can handle for emulators and early 2000’s games I will be really happy. It’s pretty much ready to go, just needs Windows 7 and a monitor, which is why I want to get the monitor in store ASAP.

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> I just bought the Thermalright Macho Rev. B but the fan it comes with is literally just a few millimeters too wide to fit in my case with the side panel. The issue is that it is sandwiched in between my RAM and the side panel window so there’s no way to squeeze it in without potentially damaging something. Is there a way I could modify the fan so it fits? I have Corsair Vengeance RAM so the heat spreader isn’t even that tall.

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> Is there any game streaming software I can use that is similar to Steam In-Home Streaming that I can use on a Raspberry Pi 3 that supports software decoding? I only have a GT 1030 but I've had Steam In-Home Streaming work well in the past.

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Hi, OP.

I've read through the comments on here as well as looking in your threads on /r/buildapc and /r/buildapcforme and while there have been some good suggestions, I can honestly say that I don't think you're going to get something you'll be content with as a gaming system for £400 – especially looking at the systems that you've been recommended (also worth noting that the suggestions on /r/buildapcforme haven't included an OS). It's not that people have been making bad suggestions, it's just that you're working on an extremely tight budget for that to include tower, OS and monitor.

For some perspective, let's just compare it quickly to next-gen console prices – and I'm by no means whatsoever suggesting a console is a better idea, I don't think it is at all; I'm just trying to put into perspective how far you're looking to stretch your budget. As it stands, a PS4 would set you back £350, plus at least another £300 for a HD TV as the display output (equivalent to the PC's monitor). That's £650 minimum for something which would give comparable performance to what I would consider a low-middle budget gaming PC.

Just a little bit more budget would go a long way towards getting components which afford you a bit more longevity. With it being a 21st present as well it'd really suck for you to be getting a system that you wouldn't be entirely satisfied with initially, especially if it'd mean you'd then be looking to upgrade again in as little as 12 months. Guessing you'll be due back at uni in the next few weeks, but if you can squeeze in any part time work in between to boost your budget it'd definitely be worthwhile – that's probably my number 1 recommendation.

I'm happy to do everything I can to guide you through the build and can even recommend some good UK-based retailers I've used myself for my last couple of builds – overclockers.co.uk, scan.co.uk & ebuyer.com – but /r/buildapcsalesuk (which someone already recommended) is definitely the best place to look to get the most for your money, especially if you have the patience to wait for deals and buy the components separately. Ebay & gumtree might be worth a look for the monitor as well, being that it's a fairly non-specialist item which is unlikely to have been tampered with or overclocked by a previous owner; all you'd really be looking for is a 1080p monitor, probably 19"-23" with a DVI and/or HDMI input.

As far as component advice goes, without getting too specific just yet, I'd probably recommend AMD for your CPU & GPU as you do tend to get a bit more for your money at the budget end of the spectrum compared to the competition (Intel in the CPU market & NVIDIA in the GPU market). As an example, something like this hex-core CPU for sub £100 is a lot more value for money than the Intel dual cores you've been recommended over on /r/buildapcforme but with such a restrictive budget there's little to no lee-way for making allowances for such great deals.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor | $229.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z87N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard | $141.97 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $114.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk | $128.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $62.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card | $259.99 @ Amazon
Case | BitFenix Prodigy Mini ITX Tower Case | $79.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Silverstone Strider Plus 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply | $74.99 @ Amazon
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $16.99 @ Newegg
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $1097.91
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-24 22:16 EDT-0400 |

This is a pretty nice computer. I just ordered a computer nearly the same as this yesterday, only with a larger hard drive, a Zalman CPU cooler, and a blu-ray burner instead of a DVD burner.

Here are some of my thoughts on the above parts:

CPU: It has the most powerful Intel i5 CPU that was just released in June. It's an overclockable CPU and it's probably the most popular CPU on /r/buildapc.

GPU: It has the nVidia GTX 760. This graphics card is a great deal for the price. It's just slightly less powerful than the GTX 670 from the previous generation, but it's $100 cheaper. It should be able to play most games at 1080p at at least 60 frames per second.

SSD: Samsung's 840 Pro series has the best controller in the industry. This is considered to be the most reliable line of solid-state drives. It has great read and write speeds.

Case: The BitFenix Prodigy is a fairly popular case. It's stylish and available in several colors.

Motherboard: The GA-Z87N-WIFI has a built-in 802.11n wifi card, Bluetooth 4.0, five USB 3.0 ports, two USB 2.0 ports, and 5.1 stereo audio output. It supports up to 16 GB of RAM and is overclockable.

RAM: This 16GB kit is a good deal at $115. At 1600 MHz it is the fastest supported by the above motherboard. This RAM is low-profile to ensure it won't physically block any CPU cooler upgrade you may want in the future.

* PSU: This Silverstone power supply is fully modular, and it's only 140mm long, which will hopefully make it easy to install in the smaller PSU compartment of the BitFenix Prodigy case.

spain, huh?? amazon.es will be your best bet, trust me (I'm also from spain, and the best prices I've seen here are amazon's)

Also, that build is good, very good for a mid-term gaming PC, as long as you are sure you want to stick with intel. I mean, you have pretty good AMD CPU's out there, better than that intel and for less money, say, THIS is one of the best (affordable) CPU's out there... and is cheaper than the intel. sure there are better CPU's but cost at least twice!! (I'm thinking of unlocked i7's, which are the only that can offer 8 threads... ) 4 threads are good for right now, but may be not enough in a FEW years (I'm used to plan ahead and make my rigs useful for at least 4 years... last one lasted like 7 years with minor (GPU) upgrades.)

GPU-wise, the 270X is only like 10€ more, and could be worth it. just take a look at videocardbenchmark.net and compare the performance of both of them. (note: they also have CPU data, so take a look at it!! )

also, you need to think about the HDD. you'll want a big and fast one, probably a 2Tb WD caviar blue would be good enough (I'm using the caviar green and while EVERYBODY will tell you is slow as hell, since it's not even a 7200rpm drive... it works good enough for me). I don't recommend reusing an old HDD, for two reasons:

one, HDD's life is "limited", I wouldn't trust a drive for more tan, say, a few years (5 or so). I myself use them for way longer, but my old seagates are in a raid 1 (mirror). else I wouldn't be trusting them, and they would be gathering dust.

and two, HDD's are cheap enough... and for a gaming PC you'll wat a big one (at least 1 Tb, trust me, it seems much but it will get filled sooner than you think) WD caviar blue 1 Tb even a raid 0 of those would be good (note I can't find the 2 Tb caviar blue right now, not sure why.... a green could do, or else, a raid 0 of blues would be even faster.) Also, a system SSD would be nice, but not essential.

I've made this but I would take input from other people too.

The CPU is great for this price although if you would like to overclock in the future as you said, I'd take a look at the Intel G3258, this cpu OCs like a beast even without an aftermarket cooler, but this is totally up to you to decide wether you would like to OC or not. If you don't want to OC then I'd get the i3-4150 I've listed below.

The motherboard, at $74.99 is a steal, it's got every slot you need and you have room for upgrades.

You have your standard 8GB RAM, you can go for 2 sticks instead of one stick if you like though, you get a hardly noticeable performance increase with dual channel. (Although personally I'd stick with the single stick in this case).

1TB of HDD is enough, I recommend getting an SSD later though as it's not an essential part and it would mean sacrificing something out of your build right now to afford it.

Now, the GPU. This GPU is great for the price, it doesn't consume much power and it can run everything you throw at it. Since I just read you want to play Minecraft, it would be absolutely no problem.

The case. You stated you wanted a windowed case, this case is great for the price and provides you with some decent cable management solutions.

Speaking of cable management, the power supply I've chosen is Semi-modular, meaning you won't have a clutter of cables you won't need hanging around in your case. I've chosen the 500W one because it costs only $5 or $10 more than the 430W, and because, it leaves you room for upgrading your GPU in the future without worrying about your wattage (unless you're going to SLI).

The monitor is a pretty standard one, 5ms response time, 1080p and 21". Good brand.

Now, I didn't include the OS in this list because I know you can get it cheaper elsewhere (around $20-30).

So this leaves you with room to buy your LEDs which you stated you wanted, look into the BitFenix Alchemy LEDs they are trustworthy and they have a good selection of colors.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor | $99.99 @ NCIX US
Motherboard | Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $74.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Corsair XMS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $63.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.88 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card | $114.99 @ Newegg
Case | Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case | $64.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $43.00 @ Newegg
Monitor | Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor | $127.99 @ Directron
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $639.82
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-30 15:22 EST-0500 |

If you have any questions about your build feel free to ask!

Got any ideas for budget? Also, what software will you be using and what bitrate, resolution and general quality settings are you planning on encoding at? Is it also a necessity for 32GB of RAM? You would probably be able to save a good chunk of money to put towards other parts if you went with 16 or perhaps 24.

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I'm not sure on the display outputs of the GTX 480, however running 3 monitors off of that and one off your onboard graphics chip you should be good to go (aslong as the connections aren't VGA, as corpnewt mentioned; it's quite hit-and-miss). For onboard graphics I'd recommend a motherboard with a HD530 chip, they're pretty well supported and off the top of my head require 2 bootflags to get working.

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In terms of motherboards it's not particularly my forte, so I may be wrong on some of these things. I think it's generally accepted that Gigabyte motherboards are the best for hackintoshing and are all round great boards, so I'd definitely recommend one. As I said you'd probably want a board with a HD530 chip, or another chip with similar support. Assuming you want 32 gig of RAM you're gonna need support for that, and if you go for 16 for now you still might want to go for a board that supports 32 incase you decide to upgrade in the future or if 16 is not enough. I'd also recommend the 115x chipset as imo is going to give you the most choices on CPU with the best compatibility. After some talks with /u/CorpNewt he suggested this Gigabyte board. It's got enough PCI-E slots, supported onboard graphics (HD530), support for 64gb of RAM, ThunderBolt and good hackintosh support which should check all the boxes.

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CPU? 6700k; 4 cores, 8 threads, 4.0Ghz clock speed, it's overclockability gives you some headroom if you ever need a bump in performance, the most powerful CPU you can get on Skylake currently (yes the enthusiast CPU's are round the corner but they are silly money and this should be plenty of power), great longevity, and most of all have good OSX support.

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The CPU can be found here. You're gonna want a cooler such as a Hyper 212 Evo or a Corsair H55 AIO (I can vouch for this cooler, have one myself and it's great). If you plan on overclocking or want to just in case, you should probably look at something a bit beefier like a Corsair H100i AIO.

The mobo can be found here.

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Feel free to fire away with any questions you have.

I just spent a full hour writing about this but it got deleted by my mistake :-:
I recommend these parts

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-LGA1151-Intel-Motherboard-GA-H110M/dp/B0165YUDTM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1491086662&sr=1-1&keywords=h110m
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Skylake-Desktop-Processor-BX80662I56500/dp/B010T6CWI2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1491088199&sr=1-1&keywords=i5+6500
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-03G-P4-6160-KR/dp/B01KUADE3O/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1491087663&sr=1-2&keywords=1060&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Memory-Black/dp/B01ARHBBPS/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1491086759&sr=1-3&keywords=8gb+ddr4
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-WHITE-Power-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU


The CPU is good enough for the game you will be playing, the motherboard is good enough and more expensive ones sell you feature you don't need. The RAM will do you fine and is enough for any game you want and the GPU will be perfect for 1080p with 3GB of VRAM. For storage, go with a cheap 500GB HDD but I would certainly recommend an SSD for the future. The power supply will do you fine no matter what anyone else says, trust me (powers my R9 280X which is a LOT more power hungry).
I would recommend looking round Ebay, Facebook selling sites etc etc for any used components or 'starting points' with Ebay being the best bet in my opinion due to the massive amounts of sellers. If you see a 6600 or a 6600k for the same or less than on Amazon, snag it up and make sure to have a CPU cooler with it (stock will do you again, I have experience with 6600/6500 running on stock coolers and it's perfectly fine)

Sorry if the response looks rushed, I had a better one but I clicked something and it deleted :'(
Would love to hear about how the build goes, may your frames be high and temperatures at a low enough level!

EDIT BEFORE POSTING : 'Bomba' recommended an 8GB RX 470 - that's pointless for 1080p in my opinion and having a Pentium Dual core isn't something anyone would crave. I also have bad experience with Corsair PSUs but I haven't tried the 450W.

It's a great build but it's still a prebuilt. You can build an equivalent one, with superior parts, for pretty much the same price.

8700k: $339.99 at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-8700K-Desktop-Processor-Unlocked/dp/B07598VZR8

1080Ti: I'd actually get a 2080 instead, there's a Newegg/Ebay combo deal that's all over this subreddit, $650 flat, no tax outside of CA

Mobo: There's a billion of these, look for anything "z370", pick one given your budget. Keep in mind lower end ones will limit your ability to overclock the 8700k. I'd aim for around $150, wouldn't go less than $100.

RAM: Plenty of deals around the subreddit as well, you're looking at about ~$120-130 for 16 gigs of DDR4. Look for 3000-3200, c16 is probably fine.

Case should run you ~$60-80, PSU should run you another ~$80-100 (don't skimp too much on this).

SSD/HDD I'm assuming you already have? If not, tack on another $100 or so, the sky's your limit there.

Grand total of right around $1500, but in exchange for doing the grunt work yourself, you can get:

• A much better mobo, with more PCI slots, better build quality, etc
  
• Faster RAM (the stuff in the prebuilt is only 2400Mhz)
  
• A slightly faster GPU (2080 is slightly faster at higher resolutions, otherwise pretty dead even with the 1080Ti)
  
• A GPU that supports RTX (raytracing, not huge in games yet, but the 1080Ti straight up doesn't support it)
  
  Ultimately it's up to you, this is a pretty fucking solid deal if you just want a computer to show up at your doorstep.
  
  I ended up buying parts instead, but that's because I have a phenomenal case, PSU, and a bunch of SSDs that are still perfectly good. Ended up costing me ~$1500 as well, but I got a MUCH better mobo and an aftermarket CPU cooler to push the overclock a bit more on the 8700k.

Have an upvote, some people don't know and that's fine. So I'll explain.

Gigabyte 980 Ti = GPU(grapics card), it handles the graphics of the game, OP was asking how much vram or memory his graphics card needs.


i7 6700k # 4.0ghz CPU(Central Processing Unit) It does what it sounds like, processes all computations for your computer other than gpu. The 4.6ghz means he overclocked it making it go faster.


With that being said, the CPU he used is the latest generation CPU, not necessarily the most expensive or fastest, but pretty close. His GPU is a tier below the best you can get in terms of gaming GPU's for now(close to every year something better and faster gets released). So in short, he's got close to the best you can get for gaming and in all probably cost close to or over $2000. It's what we call and Enthusiast build, it's better then probably 80%(I'm guessing) of what other PC gamers are using.


He mentions he is getting an average of 30FPS which means 30 frames per second. This is what most gamers consider the bare minimum of frames to play games enjoyably without stutter or the picture freezing. Ideally gamers prefer 60FPS or higher, but as this game(with his mod and ULTRA settings) demands quite a bit out of the hardware(GPU, CPU ect) it is unable to achieve that and plays at a playable 30Fps.

TL;DR: He's got close to the best hardware you can get.

Okay I just got off with amazon support. I'm being told December 7th!!!! Here are the chat logs... I changed the customer support peoples names to "Amazon". Amazon really needs to step up their s**t



Amazon:Hello, my name is Amazon. I'm here to help you today.

Me:Thanks please help

Amazon:I see that the item is currently not in stock with us.And so a delivery date can not be given.

Me:So you cant give me any info on something I PRE ORDERED 20 DAYS AGO

Amazon:Our inventory team is in contact with the manufacturer and they are trying to acquire the product.
As soon as it will be done you will receive it.

Me:That could be months
I "PRE-ORDERED" the item to get it when it came out 7 days ago.... At least newegg gives info on when they are receiving shipments of it...

Amazon:I apologized for this. And I understanding your frustration . It is available with a third party seller and if you want you can place an order with the seller.
Here is the link. https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing...(See full link)

Me:FOR DOUBLE THE PRICE

Amazon:Let me transfer this chat to a dedicated team that is better equipped to handle this particular case.

A Customer Service Associate will be with you in a moment.

You are now connected to Amazon from Amazon.com

Amazon:Hello, my name is Amazon. Please give me a moment to review the previous correspondence.

Me:Okay

A Customer Service Associate will be with you in a moment.

You are now connected to Amazon from Amazon.com

Amazon :Hello, my name is Joshua . Please give me a moment to review the previous correspondence.

Me:sure

Amazon :Please let me check
So you are having trouble receiving your order, right?

Me:Yeah. All im getting is its out of stock. I know that but why cant I have any information about it. And also I pre ordered it. I didnt backorder it. A pre-order is so you can get the item when it comes out.

Amazon :I sincerely apologize for this, I have checked this and confirmed that the item is not a pre order item, and the item item is not readily available to be delivered via two day shipping, however what I can do for you is to expedite your order with the fastest shipping or your order tracking to be updated
Will that work for you?

Me:When I first ordered the item it was a pre-order. Did amazon switch it to something else?
But yeah I guess that would be great

Amazon :I sincerely apologise however I have checked further information for your order but it was not placed a pre order, let me go ahead and update your order with one day shipping with no additional cost
There you go I have successfully expedite your order and the early for your order to be delivered will be on Friday, December 7, 2018 and you will received an email with the new shipment

>Just looking for suggestions on what type of CPU and GPU I should be looking towards and I can figure out the rest.

In terms of the CPU, you have a couple options.
If you want the best gaming performance, you'll want the i7 7700k and a Z270 motherboard and a cooler. This specific combo comes to about $620~ +tax & shipping.

On the other hand, if you'd like to save some money, you can choose the Ryzen 1600 (or Ryzen 1700) and pair it with a B350 motherboard. The combo is a mere $380~ +tax (or $450 with the 1700). Also, pair a couple sticks of high speed RAM with Ryzen (3000 - 3200MHz) and you'll see significant performance gains in your games.

AMD's Ryzen is definitely the best value on the market right now, with that being said the 7700k is the undisputed winner when it comes to gaming performance. When it comes to a graphics card, you'll want to pick up a 1080ti (wait until you can get one of these for $900 or less, check r/bapcsalescanada several times daily and you can snag a good deal) if you want to game in 4k. However, if you'll just be playing games @ 1080p in your VR headset you can probably safely pick up the cheaper 1080 or 1070 cards.

For your 4K monitor there are a lot of options and it really depends what is on sale when you buy. The LG 27UD58-B is well regarded and a great value currently.

> I felt more comfortable going the Intel route and would like to continue that way to have a similar architecture everywhere even if I am open to listening. I am not anti-AMD or whatever.

That's a fine decision, but if you want to save a bit more money, it's probably cheaper to go AMD and get equal/better performance. Most software development tools are multithreaded and will benefit from more cores and threads. AMD CPUs are very similar to Intel CPUs, and the only difference is slightly slower single core clocks and much much slower AVX512. If you know you need AVX512, stay with Intel.

For example:

• Ryzen 7 2700 is a 8 core/16 thread CPU with 3.2 GHz base and 4.1 GHz boost for $297
  
  
• Ryzen 5 2600 is a 6 core/12 thread CPU with 3.4 GHz base and 3.9 GHz boost for $213
  
  These will offer better performance in any program that takes advantage of all 6 cores/12 threads compared to the 9600k, and is much cheaper. Intel really shines with Gaming builds that want high single core clocks, but from what I see, you're not doing any gaming. Definitely worth taking a look at if you want to save some money.
  
  What are your specific reasons for being more comfortable going with Intel?

>like the way higher initial costs for a somewhat useable gaming

What do you consider usable? Because it doesn't actually take much to hit 30fps at 1080p which is what most console games run at. It is expensive to run the latest games at the highest possible settings at high resolutions but if your target is just a "console like experience" it is not true that a PC is more expensive they are very comparable in fact.

Here let me build you a PC

Graphics Card (280 after rebate)

Ram (50)

Motherboard (60 after rebate)

CPU (160)

HDD (48)

Mouse + Keyboard (15 after rebate and discount code)

Case (30 after rebate and discount code)

PSU (20)

Total Price - $623 compare that to the price of an XBOX ONE X (399 489 on sale). For $224 134 more you get a gaming pc that can play any game released in 2018 on ultra high and get 60+fps at 1080p which is more than a console can claim, and that is not even including the fact that you now have a good PC and PCs do a fuckload more than just play videogames.


Now take out $200 (buy an older GPU/CPU) and you can build a PC that matches the capabilities of a console. Playing games on medium/high (which is what consoles run) at 1080p and 30fps.

Also that PC has room for improvement throughout the years of ownership. It can use an SSD and another 8 gig stick of ram and more HDD storage. Possibly even aftermarket fans to put on the CPU to overclock it.

The ONLY advantage that consoles have over PC is exclusive titles that never get released outside of that particular console. And even that eventually becomes false because it is only a matter of time until every console can be emulated on PC.

Edit: Also you can add $60 to the price of the Xbox because if you want to play multiplayer you need xbox live. So really its $160 more. This also doesn't include the fact that no storefront can even come close to matching the sales during steam summer sales. Let's be super conservative and say you save $30 a year on steam sales for games that you wanted to buy, so that puts us down to $130 more than an Xbox One X while having higher graphical capabilities and also having the benefit of being a PC and not just a console that plays games/streams netflix.

Hey man!

Check out [this motherboard] (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-USB3-0-Motherboard-GA-H81M-H/dp/B00I6DLKCA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1412625307&sr=8-4&keywords=lga+1150+motherboard) which goes for around 50 USD.

If you are new, you need to make sure that the socket type of the processor is a LGA 1150, so the motherboard must have the same socket type. Your i3 is a LGA 1150, so the motherboard and the processor should work together. Just made a similar mistake, however nothing terrible bad occured.

I know that you just asked for a motherboard, but I can't help but notice that you are going for a budget gaming build. Half the parts you have are the same as the parts I have. In fact, I ordered the Evga GTX 750 Ti from Newegg just this Saturday for 135 USD.

So what I have to say on your build regarless if you asked for help is to get a [Intel Core i3-4360 @ 3.70GHz] (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-4360-Processor-Cache-BX80646I34360/dp/B00J2LIFDC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412625825&sr=8-1&keywords=Intel+Core+i3-4360+%40+3.70GHz) which is more expensive, at 150 USD, but has way better performance.

Even better yet is to go for an AMD processor, however I know that some people are not a fan of them, but thats fine.

If you don't mind about AMD, pick up a [AMD FX-6350 Six-Core] (http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD6300WMHKBOX-FX-6300-Processor-Edition/dp/B009O7YORK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1412626082&sr=8-2&keywords=AMD+FX-6350+Six-Core) which goes for 100 USD, but is far better than the i3 I linked above, and the i3 in your current build.

Please note that changing to AMD will change the motherboard you need, but the cost of the motherboard should still stay around 50 USD.

AMD also has a 8 core processor that runs for 130 USD that you may want to look into. Most games dont utilize more than 2 cores however.

I will gladly help you with anything you need.

One more thing I am looking into is buying a case that comes with a PSU. I know that Coolermaster, a reputable company, provides an option like this for around 60-70 USD. You could look into that if you prefer.

Also note that a operating system will cost you almost 100 USD, a sizable chunk of money in a budget build, unless your run Linux.

Glad to help.

Beautiful tiny PC but here's a very friendly price break down. I'm using new prices here from Amazon except for the fan. This isn't taking into consideration whether the parts are a day or a year old they are officially used and if you go off of even good/average to great /r/hardwareswap deals this would be quite cheaper and it's hard to add a building tax to a community full of builders.

CPU $200 - Ryzen 3600

MOBO $129 - MSI B450i

GPU $320 - RTX 2060

NVME $90 - Samsung 970 Evo

RAM $90 - XPG 3200 MHz 16GB RGB

COOLER $40 - Noctua NH-L9a

FAN $24 - 25mm 4000 RPM Delta Fan

PSU $90 - OP's model is OOS

Custom SFF Cables - $30-50

CASE - GEEEK A30 + Riser Cable + Shipping = $100.67 (for me)

This is $1,113 for everything, basically new.

I don't really think it's a terrible price at all but the nature of this sub seems to be getting great deals so you can pretty much build a PC you would have never had if you just bought everything new on Amazon etc, especially since I believe this sub is full of PC builders. I have seen some absurd deals on this sub reddit that make me want to quit my job so I can just refresh constantly and that's because I've had a full system for awhile. Just a little food for thought for anybody. With some commitment to checking here you can get a great build for way below retail cost of the parts.

thats a pretty badass bday present!

i have a genuine question tho, and not necessarily aimed at OP. Why do i see so many builds using the ryzen APU with a graphics card as well? is there a benefit to it? i understand builds that start with it and add a gpu later, but if you're buying it all at once would it not be better to grab a 2600 instead? (or a 1600 if its the R3 apu)

questions aside. congrats! im sure he'll remember building it fondly for the rest of his life.

​

edit: fair points all around! so if its the 2200 it makes perfect sense for best performance at price point. however if its a 2400 then you might as well have gotten a 2600 especially with them being 149 at walmart and amazon right now = https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B41WS48/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_yW0yCbK60C89B

The stuttering, not sure if it's fixed or not. Blacklight retribution stuttered like crazy, dx11 fixed stutter but broke the game(google search confirmed dx11 is broke for that game), jumped in planetside 2 later and seemed to not stutter and looked smoother, but could just be random luck and will be back next time I play :/ As far as Ryzen, was looking at it but kinda questioning it though. The leaked benchmarks look to be between the i7 6800k and i7 6900k, but for gaming looked to fall between the i5 6500 and the i5 6600(the difference was only a couple percent between both the i5's and the Ryzen). Also seems all the Ryzen versions are overclockable, as long as you have one of the boards they allow you to overclock on(which was like 3).The price is unknown at this point, so who knows if the Ryzen or an i5 would be better for the price, and for all we know the benchmarks might look good but then the Ryzen could just fall on it's face when thrown in with different systems once released.

> Alternatively you could pick up a new mobo and an Intel i3

I'm thinking of just doing this after what you said, getting a new motherboard and an i3, though not sure which version to get. Looked around and kinda settled on the i3 6100 for $117 on amazon, take it this would be okay? As far as motherboards, looks like im probably going to need to buy new ram which is another $50-60 as looks like the i3 only supports DDR4(though I found DDR3 mobo that supports the 1151 socket). Looking at this Gigabyte board and this DDR4 ram which are hopefully okay.

> As a side-note, additional RAM wont make your system faster unless you're constantly running out of RAM either by browsing the net with a ridiculous number of tabs open, or audio/video editing

Yeah kinda figured, just was thinking of upgrading the ram because in planetside 2 my ram usage goes up to 88%(that's without ultra textures, that says uses more ram. Got similar usage when on all low even). Guess im basically running out of ram though. Game itself is eating up almost 6gb of ram(as my system idles around 1.80-2.30gb, not sure why it jumps around so much from start up to start up though)

Also thank you for your help so far, think this is probably the most help i've gotten so far

Appreciate it, I'll just keep replying here if that's cool. Don't mind either way about PM but I do find lurkers might appreciate some of the advice. I'm set on the 2600, and its now 185 on Amazon so that helps. I'm pretty set on the tomahawk Mobo too which I think is lowest if you have prime.

I would like to see pics of the case, I hate the one I have its so dull and bulky but not also huge fan of the "I'M A GAMER" cases, which seem overpriced regardless. One you have is nice.

I might upgrade to a 1070 in a year+, from what I can tell that still pairs nicely with a 2600 but wanted to check. and lastly I do have 16 Gb of Ram but would consider getting some that works best with the Mobo and amd, did you already have Ram or did you buy to compliment the board.

edit: also would love a quite setup, my computer makes a decent amount of noise and I use it as part of the entertainment system.

• 750 Watt Power Supply. $89.98
  
  
• Generic Corsair Case. $64.99 You can shop around for something better looking for a little more money.
  
  
• DDR4 3200 RAM (2*4GB Sticks) for $147.99 and DDR4 3200 RAM (1*8GB Stick) for $160.32. You can also drop to 3000MHz and save like $5-10 but not worth it in my opinion.
  
  
• GTX 1060 3GB for $304.99 or GTX 1060 6GB for $389.99.
  
  
• i7 8700k for $449.99 or i7 7700k for $422.96. 8700k is 8th gen and 7700k is 7th gen. You can drop to any processor around an i7 7700 (No "k") without seeing issues I'd assume. WoW is a processor heavy game though. Still my i7 8700k only ever reaches maybe 30% useage that I see.
  
  
• Heat Sink + Fan. Cooler Master is good. $34.99
  
  
• i7 8700 will require a 300 Series Motherboard like ASUS ROG for $141.50 or ASUS Prime for $84.99. The 7700s will take a 200 series motherboard like this one for $129.61 or this one for 149.99. Basically just make sure it has all the hook-ups you need (sound and USBs and shit) with the proper chip set and supports DDR4 RAM with minimum 1 PCI Express slot for your GPU.
  
  
• Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD for $179.94 or the 250GB for $109.94. Any decent SSD will do. Make sure it has enough room for your OS and the game(s) you play. You can use any regular HD to store other stuff on. Samsung is a good brand for them.
  
  When trying to decide on what power your PC needs a good website to use is http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/ - it'll give you a general idea since I get confused with all the "i7/i5/i3 XXXX gen X" nonsense too.
  
  That'll build you a tower. Then you just need external components. Monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, chair, desk, etc. Depending on what you have available and stuff it can vary so I'll let you price out that stuff.
  
  $1,358 pre-taxes if you go with i7 8700k, and GTX 1060 3 GB. For the tower. Taxes in, plus all the other components you're still looking at pushing close to $2000. That's CND I think. If you do a little shopping around you might get a decent deal on a few items and look into different price points between AMD and Intel if you choose their Board/Chip/GPU combos.

For the performance you want, that's honestly overkill. If your son wants an explanation, please tell him that the games that he plays (Minecraft, League of Legends, Neopets, World of Warcraft) are not that graphics intensive and do not require such a highly-priced PC. Even if you did play graphics-intensive games, you can get the performance you're looking for, for much, much less.

You could put together a killer computer for about $800 or even less.

For starters, you do not need an i7. An i5, or even an i3 will do just fine for those games. Also, you do not need that CPU cooler and just use the stock one since it doesn't seem like you're planning to overclock the CPU.

32 GB of RAM is overkill for any game, regardless of what you're playing. You can get by with just 8GB of RAM, or 16GB just to be safe.

Also, you should probably wait for the GTX 1080 to drop if you're really set on getting it. It's currently way over MSRP due to the lack of stock. If you want to cut the costs a bit, and you want to future-proof the PC, you should try something like the GTX 970 or the new RX 480 after the price drops, and it will play those games perfectly fine.

As for the PSU, it looks like it costs a bit much, but it's good nonetheless. If you don't want to change that, it looks just fine to me.

The motherboard looks pretty good for the price, and the SSD and HDD are just fine as well.

Hope that helps!

EDIT: Sorry for editing the post so much, I realized that I left out a lot that I should've said.

> there is an 8C16T Chip which eats 1/3 less power than the 9900k

Why exactly should I care about this?
I fully appreciate the difference it will make in Laptops where constrained formfactor limits airflow and causes thermal throttling, but it's meaningless in a full sized tower with good airflow or even a microATX with entry level AIO liquid cooling.

(e.g. my OC'd 2700x hits about 60c under torture test. I have plenty of thermal overhead left but can't push the OC higher due to instability)

> while being 400-500Mhz lower than the Intel part

Again meaningless. I don't really care that the IPC under the hood is more efficient to achieve the same result with lower maximum clock. I care that the absolute performance of their product is designed to the exact 9900k plus 1% performance so they can claim "leadership" and price it for $15 more than the Intel Flagship.

If I can OC it to 5 ghz then yes, the 10-15% IPC advantage will be meaningful, but if there's no real overclocking headroom it's not.

>Intel is out of the race for the next few years...

Not really, they're tied for first place. Which is fantastic, and better than it's been in a long long time, but it's not "press F for intel".

Next year we'll see Zen 2+ refresh from AMD with some minor iterative gains, and we'll see 14nm Comet Lake from Intel with... minor iterative gains, and they'll both probably be about the same for absolute performance.

> on par OR better in gaming

Not sure where you're getting "or better" from.

The only benchmarks to date show parity, and those are first-party stage demos which typically need to be taken w/ a lump of salt as best case scenarios.

Hey p_orsk,

So glad to hear that we have another HomeLabber in our midst. I just thought I would take a minute and share with you my current build that has suited me very well. It is completely silent and power efficient, while still powerful enough to do what you want plus more. My build was also built to be small profile so this build is built around a Micro-ITX case. This build cost me $500 in the US in 2017, don't quite know what the price would be now.

• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler
  
• Motherboard: ASUS PRIME A320M-K AMD Ryzen AM4 DDR4 HDMI VGA M.2 USB 3.1 Micro-ATX Motherboard
  
• PSU: EVGA 430 W1, 80+ WHITE 430W
  
• RAM: HyperX FURY Black 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 2133MHz DDR4
  
  As I said, this build should be completely silent. I went into the BIOS settings and turned it on Power-Saver mode for good measure, which makes things run a bit warmer, but keeps fan speeds down.
  
  I didn't list storage here, as it sounds like you got that covered. This motherboard also supports M.2 if you want to add that later.
  
  If I can make one suggestion, I would highly recommend getting into Virtualization. My poison of choice is Proxmox. I could really get into this, but it really helps when you are trying to expand.
  
  If you have any other questions, feel free to comment on this post, or shoot me a DM. I would be happy to help!
  
  [EDIT] This is just my experience. You will get 110 different answers from 100 different people in this world. You kinda just have to tinker to get what works for you.

> Ha, well of course I don't NEED 120fps. Just trying to get the most of out of my monitor.

Fair enough. That's why I made sure I out the emoticon in there. :)

> I was basing my info from AnandTech[1] - it is showing a solid 10fps difference between the two cards. Seems like in the end I'll have to decide if that is worth the ~$200 difference.

My problem with relying on such articles, even form a legitimate source such as Anandtech, is that every system is different. A measly 10FPS difference is well within the margin for error when you consider you'll have a different system entirely, even with some components in common.

As an example, here's my system specs (Amazon links if you want deeper specs, not that I think it matters here):

• Asus P8H77-M Pro
  
• Ivy Bridge i5-3570K @ stock 3.4 GHz
  *16GB DDR3-1600 RAM (more than 8 because I use VMs)
  I have 2 of this kit
  
• 512GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD
  
• EVGA GeForce GTX670
  
  Now, that's a reasonably decent system but it's aged somewhat. Most folks wouldn't think it'd run things perfectly because they've been taught by the masses and by the parts manufacturers that you need new kit to stay in the sweet spot, performance-wise. In reality, though, I am pulling a solid 60FPS in FarCry 4 at the highest possible "Ultra" settings and a resolution of 1920x1200.
  
  I don't need an SLI rig, or even a 700 series card to do so. All I do is keep my system well clear of crapware and don't screw with Windows settings. It's a default install of Windows 8.1 upgraded over the top of an old Windows 7 install that was upgraded over an older yet Vista install. According to conventional wisdom, this should be an unstable system yet it isn't.
  
  Anyhow, that needn't mean you shouldn't get what you want, only that you needn't be at the highest possible end of things to have solid performance. The real key, based on my decades of experience supporting Windows professionally, including in depth training by actual Windows developers while at MSFT, is simple. It's to a) leave Windows well enough alone to do what it needs to do and b) to keep things that cause issues long term (installing and uninstalling of programs to test, for example) on a separate system entirely. Rather than an actual "break box" as I used to have, I now use VMs instead.

I am currently running an AMD Athlon II X3 455, which is a slight step up from the 450 you mention. It isn't a bad processor and it still performs well for me with my 550 ti card, but it's both quite outdated and not too great to begin with.

If it has to be between those processors I would go with the Phenom II X4 925 so you have some sort of longevity, but a newer processor is much better. The AMD FX-6300 is cheaper than the Phenom and should perform substantially better, plus it runs on the AM3+ socket if you have an older motherboard and don't want to upgrade.

If you are willing to purchase a new motherboard and spend a bit more on the processor, the Intel i5-4460 will likely get you even better lasting performance, though this comparison actually marks it as fairly close to the FX-6300, so perhaps it isn't worth the extra money.

I hope I was helpful, good luck with your build!


Edit: Looking at the link provided by /u/Feedel_Casthrow, it seems that the Athlon X3 450 may actually be the better pick, especially considering the cost difference. I would still side with the AMD FX-6300 over either option though.

Ok, do you need the i7? If you are mostly doing games and just a little bit of art (not for work, just light personal use, like Photoshop), then you probably don't need it. The i7 is great for applications that can use the hyperthreading, but it gives very little performance increase while gaming. Plus, the 3770 and the 3570k that you linked in another post are both old generation CPU's. The new ones came out about three months ago (they are the 4770k and the 4670k). The best CPU for most computers on this sub-reddit is the 4670k right now, so it's probably the best for you as well.

If the main point of your computer is to run games, your most expensive part should be your video card, not your CPU. Even if you are using your computer to do some 3d artwork, a more noticeable upgrade would be to use an SSD or more RAM instead of a faster CPU. I would recommend something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor | $199.99 @ Microcenter
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $24.99 @ NCIX US
Motherboard | Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $134.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Corsair XMS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $49.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Corsair XMS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $49.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $63.98 @ Outlet PC
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card | $399.99 @ NCIX US
Case | NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply | $39.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive | LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer | $15.99 @ Microcenter
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $1029.88
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-05 11:53 EDT-0400 |

If you are doing very light 3d work (like as a hobby), I would recommend only getting 8gb of RAM (try to get 2x4gb sticks instead of 1x8gb) at 1600MHz. With the extra money, buy a small SSD for your OS.

First off, get an Intel G3258 3.2GHz I OC'd this badboy to 4.4GHz stable. But even at stock its still good for CS;GO. Next, with an R9, I'd recommend getting a full mobo. Z87-G41 by MSI is a great board, also has nice overclocking program. Next, I would recommend getting 2 sticks of RAM because dual channel gives you better bandwidth. It will stay the same price. Next, unless you are in love with the case, I would trash it. To me, it looked to have TERRIBLE air flow. I personally would get an Antec 302 This case is great. Lastly, I play CS:GO and I have it installed onto an SSD. This REALLY makes it load fast. I would try to squeeze a few extra bucks into getting a 120gb SSD. It can really make the difference. I would spend no more than 90 bucks on one. Hope my novel of words helps!

Since R9 270 serves well for gaming, for that budget you can nail an G3258 plus an H81-B85-H97 motherboard, FX-4100 is a pretty "old" chip and may be an slightly bottleneck.

At most, you can get:

GPU

Green Side: EVGA GTX 960 starting at $200 dls may be an 25-35% faster than your current GPU.

Red Side: R9 280X Vapor X Same story, but performs a little better than the GTX 960.

CPU

]Blue side:] One of the best performers is the G3258 it's a Haswell unlocked chip, you can get this little monster up to 4,2 ghz easily with the proper cooling, also to note you need a new motherboard for this chip, ANY ASUS branded board (H81, B85, H97, Z97) is able to overclock unlocked mutiplier chips since last year i think, it from $69-89
one of the best price-performance chip, don't get fooled by the "Pentium name".

Red Side: FX-6300, a bit "old" but also one of the best price/performance chips, it doesn't even bottlenecks a top tier card. And you won't need to change you Motherboard.

So: ($69 G3258 - $55 ASUS H81-M ) If you go Intel side, so you'll left $174 for the gpu

and for the red side FX-6300 and spare $198 for gpu

I'm trying to save up for this processor. I stream on Twitch and should have gone with this one initially, but didn't. I might just buy it at PAX East, which I already have to save up for anyway, since newegg gives out pretty great deals at PAX. But, until then, save I shall!

I love the idea of this contest. It's really neat to see what expensive item everyone wishes for.

Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis When I was dead broke, man I couldn't picture this

Not sure where you are getting your information from, but that is the whole point of the X series SKUs. They are binned higher and feature XFR for auto-overclocking. The non-X SKUs are still unlocked multipliers but do NOT have the Extended Frequency Range auto-overclocking feature that the X SKUs DO.

Here's a few sources, including a couple that were in attendance at today's event.

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/luke-hill/kitguru-amd-event-ryzen-7-cpus-set-to-hit-intel-pricing-hard/

"That ‘X’ prefix denotes support for eXtended Frequency Range (XFR) which allows a number of the CPU’s cores to operate at up to 1 multiplier bin higher if thermal and power threshold budgets are not saturated"

"Ryzen 7 1700 – 8 cores, 16 threads, 3.0GHz base speed, 3.7GHz boost speed, no XFR support, 65W TDP, $329 USD, £319.99 OCUK price."


Techreport, who was also in attendance at the event today and went home with review samples lists these specs as part of what was announced at the event.

https://techreport.com/news/31471/amd-eight-core-16-thread-chips-lead-the-ryzen-charge

Model | Cores | Threads | Base Clock | Boost Clock | XFR | TDP | Price
------|---|----|----|----|----|----|----
Ryzen 1800X | 8 | 16 | 3.6GHz | 4.0GHz | Yes | 95W | $499
Ryzen 1700X | 8 | 16 | 3.4GHz | 3.8GHz | Yes | 95W | $399
Ryzen 1700 | 8 | 16 | 3.0GHz | 3.7GHz | No | 65W | $329

"The X in the product name (in this and other models) denotes the presence of the XFR technology (eXtended Frequency Range), allowing you to reach even higher frequencies in the presence of adequate cooling. XFR is just one of the technologies SenseMI" -> translated from: https://www.tomshw.it/ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-e-1700-specifiche-e-prestazioni-83576 in regards to information released by AMD at today's event.

All of this is from those who attended and official AMD specs released today. There is no question about it, that is literally what the "X" in the SKU denotes. XFR. This is all just a matter of hours old information, not "last week". You mention you take what people who attended have to say as priority, which of course makes sense. Only problem is that it is the exact opposite of what you're saying.

Also, the pre-order listings on sites like Amazon make this clear. For instance,

1800X: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06W9JXK4G, clearly lists XFR on the product page

1700X: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X3W9NGG, clearly lists XFR on the product page

1700: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WP5YCX6, does not list XFR on the product page

On OCUK's product pages as well, XFR is listed as a spec on only the 1800X and 1700X product pages:

1800X: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7-eight-core-1800x-4.00ghz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-39v-am.html

1700X: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7-eight-core-1700x-3.80ghz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-39w-am.html

1700: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7-eight-core-1700-3.70ghz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-39x-am.html

--> OCUK "'X' Version with automatic XFR overclocking"

I'd recommend comparing the 4590 with the 4690K:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4590

For a small amount of money more you can get higher specs:

4590
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-3-30GHz-Graphics-Technology-Socket/dp/B00K5J22GG

4690K
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-i5-4690K-Processor-Graphics-LGA-1150/dp/B00KPRWB9G

And yes, for your build you will only need, approximately, a 400W power supply as your build roughly needs 326W of power, but I'd say possibly go for a 450W or 500W PSU, incase you want to overclock/upgrade in the future.

And so save further upgrades on the PSU get a Gold Certified, or higher, and get it fully modular, not Semi-modular, if you can afford it. It will keep your case cooler having less wired, and it will look nicer, if youre into that sort of thing.

Also for the GPU, if you do get the parts you have listed, maybe splash out a extra 100 dollars on the graphics card and get a MSI Nvidia GTX 970 4GB, its amazing and your system wont be 'bottlenecked'. (Not sure how to use that word in context correctly.

MSI GTX 970:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-970-Graphics-Express/dp/B00NOP536Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427549040&sr=8-1&keywords=MSI+GTX+970

Also, do not just buy a SSD, you will need a HDD aswel, I'd recommend only using your SSD for your OS, and other programs you use all the time and would like to preform faster. Your SSD will become very slow quickly otherwise, and need replacing frequently (I have found any ways!)

These are all my opinions btw, its not fact, just opinion.

Also, keep in mind you have a Mini ITS and a mini tower, make sure all of your parts will fit in there before purchasing

Here's a Ryzen 5 2600 for just $150 w/ free shipping (and inc. stock cooler obv, even if the Stealth is nothing to write home about), which provides simlar perfomance (and superior IPC if you can believe it, with Zen+ edging out both Haswell-E & Broadwell-E) stock vs stock to an i7-6850K in both single & multi-threaded workloads (unless it's something extremely memory bound, that can properly take advantage of X99's quad-channel DDR4), but running cooler, quieter, more efficient, and for just 1/2 the price for a brand new chip that's on a current AND future-proof platform with great boards available for just $70ish.

AM4 has pretty much made every single pre-X299 Intel HEDT platform essentially obsolete for those that don't need it's expanded I/O & memory sub-systems (which Intel would still gimp to varying extents on all but the flagship SKU anyways), and for those people that's what AMD's X399/Threadripper platform is for (which beats X299/ Skylake-X|Cascade Lake-X across the board on both those fronts).

And if your workload priorities happen to lean towards the multi-threaded side, 1st Gen but 8c/16t R7 1700's (which will lose on ST, but dominate on MT vs an i7-6850K after both are reasonably overclocked) are a similar price new as the 2600, and w/ a bigger, better included cooler (Spire RGB vs Stealth).

Literally Intel's only remaining purchasing arguments are for those few who want the best single-threaded perfomance available, totally irregardless of cost/value (see the i9-9900K), and those unlucky few whose workload(s) leave them dependant on Thunderbolt support (which is exactly why freely licensable USB 3.1 Gen 2 [10Gb/s, aka 1.25GB/s, or equal BW to TB1] compatible devices should have been widely available like damn yesterday).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B41WS48/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_KoqXBbRAMD8E6

Disclaimer: I am by no means a pro, hopefully you will get some other responses from wiser HT builders.

I would suggest looking at these suggested builds (from this sub reddit's sidebar), might help visualize the pros and cons. Have you ever built a PC before? If not go over to /r/buildapc! Great community! It's not hard at all, I have built three! 730 is good! 6 or 8 ram will be better, but not vital. My first pc has an i3. Just depends on how many cores you want. I would suggest the new "hot" item right now, AMD's FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor. Of course this requires a motherboard that will support AMD CPUs. What's your budget? Hope I helped! :)


Edit: Use PC Part Picker!! I didn't know it existed till I upgraded my PC a couple of years ago. So helpful! You can compare prices from stores, make sure parts are atleast some what compatible, and making & comparing multiple builds and parts! They also have guides, tips and tricks, etc!

Actually no! Yes technology does advance at a rapid rate, but you don't need the best and highest end to feel secure with what you have. You can still game on a PC, but sometimes it gets tempting to add better parts to it. Here is my build.

Motherboard

CPU

RAM

Hard Drive

Case

GPU

These are the basics of my build. There are other things in it, but aren't important as of right now. The GPU, RAM, Hard Drive, and Case are what remain from the original build. Everything else either broke or were given away since I upgraded. Right now I am working on my last upgrade before I refrain from putting more money into my PC. I say this because there is a limit to how powerful you can make a PC before your next upgrade gives you diminishing returns.

If you set a goal for your gaming PC to be 1080p with steady 60fps and good graphics, then there are great budget builds on PC Part Picker. Feel free to head over to /r/buildapc for any questions you would like answered in their FAQ, or even ask me!

Well i got a temporary built for you. Be warned it is slightly above 400 quids but you are into entry range high end PCs here (especially the processor) and will satisfy all your gaming needs while easily "stomping" both of the next-gen consoles.

Processor - AMD FX8320 Black Edition 8 Core

GPU - AMD HD7770 2GB

Mobo - Asus M5A97

PSU - Corsair CX750

RAM - Corsair 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 Vengeance Memory Kit

HDD - Get a local one for cheap (barely matters unless you want a SSD)

Blu-ray - That shit isn't cheap and i didn't plan on including it in my stupid estimate which i made. I don't even use a DVD writer for myself and i haven't ever felt the need for one.

Audio - Since you said you wanted excellent Audio quality, you should look up on the Asus XONAR cards and pick one according to your needs. If you just want good audio quality for some personal music and movies, you can pick up the basic Xonar cards. They all have excellent audio.

Cabinet - Can't say what you need there. Pick anything with a decent airflow and you are good to go. Else, you can do what i do and pick a cheap one while just keeping it open for the airflow. Unless you are for aesthetics, you can save a good amount of fortune here.

Have made plenty of mistakes before, so just to be clear, this is the proper i5-6600k? Link to a page


From what I've found, the i7-6700k is only available from outer retailers, but is it worth 360 plus, for my build at least? (I've recently seen a boost in pc part prices so I am concerned)


Also, is the water cooler(corsair hydro H115i), worth it? favoring the coolermaster cosmo2 case or may use a rack build for possible 4x LAN design for all recording pcs in singular location, and hoping if the parts are worth the attempt (hoping to start stream team/lets play group, but need a beta test with this build).


Sorry for rambling, it's a problem, I know. Thanks you, much appreciated

Here's everything for equipment, so hopefully this answers any questions:

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Wall:

• TV
  
  
• Lights/Nanoleaves
  
  
• Whiteboard
  
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  Desk:
  
  
• Top (74x1 1/2")
  
  
• Drawers (can't see in picture) (2x, in brown-black)
  
  
• Top Legs (Supports top off of drawers)
  
  I also made modications to the desk, including installing a grommet with 2 USBs and 2 outlets, as well as a wireless charger.
  
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  Audio Setup:
  
  
• Shure SM7B
  
  
• Rode Arm Stand
  
  
• Behringer Xenyx X1204USB
  
  
• Dbx 286s Microphone Preamp
  
  
• Sennheiser HD 660 S
  
  
• Headphone stand (Not sure if I can recommend. Headphones leave a lot of marks on the stand and can make the transparant plastic look foggy)
  
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  Peripherals:
  
  
• Glorious Model O (White, might want to wait for the Model O- to drop if you have smaller hands)
  
  
• The Glorious GMMK (Full sized, white keycaps, Kailh Speed Silver switches)
  
  
• Mouse Bungee (White)
  
  
• Mouse Pad (XL)
  
  
• Monitors (2x)
  
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  PC specs:
  
  
• 2080ti
  
  
• i9-9900k
  
  
• 64 GB Ram
  
  
• 4 TB SSD
  
  
• 3 TB HDD (Unsure what exactly, bought a long time ago. Pretty standard HDD though)
  
  
• 1000w Power Supply
  
  
• HZXT H500i Case
  
  
• Asus ROG Maximus XI Hero Z390 Motherboard
  
  
• Corsair Hydro Series H150i Water Cooling
  
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  Any other questions, feel free to leave them and I'll try to respond :)
  
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  Edit: Thank you for the gold random kind redditor!

I like it, but could use some tweaking. The gpu is not necessary, I'd rather save $100 and use onboard graphics; all of my other computers that I built have 3 monitors with no GPU and no lag/stutter. I also think 16gb of RAM is a requirement as chrome uses so much ram and considering its' price it is most likely money well spent. Also, the harddrive is probably not necessary either I don't think.

This is the current CPU that I am using and really enjoy (https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-6100-Cache-Processor-BX80662I36100/dp/B015VPX2EO). Is the one you linked better in terms of performance?

Thanks for your help!

Edit: Here is the SSD I got for $38 back in june of 2016 (ADATA USA Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" SATA III Solid State Drive ASP550SS3-120GM-C). Not sure as to why the price is higher now than it was before, but surely there must be a black friday deal for a 120gb ssd?

What are you hoping to do with it? I definitely going with an AMD processor with that price range, as you'll get a better bang for your buck. If you want a lot of processing power, and don't need a super fancy motherboard, I'd recommend this: http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD6300WMHKBOX-FX-6300-6-Core-Processor/dp/B009O7YORK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427230753&sr=8-1&keywords=AMD+cpu

Along with this motherboard: http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Corp-760GM-P23-FX/dp/B005SEB336/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427230780&sr=1-3&keywords=am3%2B+socket+motherboard

Let me know what you're looking for, and I'd love to help you out! I build computers for a living, so I'd love to help :). You could also go to http://www.facebook.com/vipertechcomputerservices, and I'll definitely see any messages there. Thanks! :D

If you're asking for strictly graphics cards I would go with the minimum of a r9 290x or a [GTX 970] (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Quieter-Graphics-04G-P4-2974-KR/dp/B00NVODXR4/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1449824615&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+970) and these I would say can do 4k but won't be amazing at 4k. They will do amazing at max settings on WWE at 1080 60fps. Not entirely sure about 4k. What I have seen is people use the 980 in SLI for 4K and I'm positive you can do the same with the 290x or the 970 and get the job done as well. And I'm sure one of the GTX 980ti will do just fine. As for processors I myself have an i5-4690k and it gets the job done well. I would say go for an i5-4690k or higher and you can also search for the AMD equivalent as well. I don't have much experience with AMD so I wouldn't know what to recommend

EDIT: Here is a video showing the GTX 980 & i7-4790k running WWE 2K15 at 4K and 60 FPS

"By name and by marketing (and original MSRP), the i5 CPU is most comparable to the R5 CPUs. The R5 2600’s current $160 price-point makes it a less direct comparison, and the 2600X, which would perform about where an overclocked 2600 performs, is about $220. This is also cheaper, but still closer to compare. Even closer is the R7 2700, which is $270 normally (or ~$250 during current sales). This is the closest comparison.

We would favor an i7-8700K if you must go Intel – like for systems with the highest refresh rate possible – while staying below the price of the i9-9900K. We would favor an R7 2700 in heavily-threaded applications or games which are more dependent upon threads than the mean (e.g. Far Cry 5). The 9600K is still often superior in raw framerate, but does suffer frametime consistency hits in games like Far Cry 5. In those instances, it would be a worse experience insofar as its consistency of frame delivery. In the other games we tested, the 9600K holds a lead in gaming performance. It also suffers in Blender, the side-effect of fewer cores, making the R7 a better choice for anyone legitimately using the heavy multithreading in tile-based rendering applications. If you’re just gaming, the 9600K is often better – but not always, and that inconsistency is the key to our inability to offer a firm recommendation. We’d favor an i7-8700K (if budget can stretch) for pure gaming workloads, but the i5-9600K and R7 2700 choice requires more nuance. For anyone working with Blender in addition to gaming, the R7 2700 is a better choice. For pure gaming, the 9600K is “better” in most the games we tested, but that frametime inconsistency in some games causes us to hesitate.

The i5 remains hard to justify, even with its two-core increase. Intel remains the best option for gaming-only builds in the i7 class, but struggles to prove consistent value in the i5 class. That’s a problem – if the value is inconsistent, it is sometimes better to opt for a more consistent (if sometimes weaker) alternative, if only because the experience is then predictable."

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That same GN article, basically saying "don't buy the i5"

I can't say for sure that this is a simple question, but I don't feel as though this requires it's own post.

I'm looking at upgrading my processor (an AMD Phenom II X6 1090T) but I don't know what I should upgrade to. After looking at benchmarks and prices I feel like [this] (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0087EVHVW/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=ALMGMPH6QS3S&coliid=I2SLDP3JIS4Y1) would be a good idea, but I can't find a reasonable motherboard. They're either too expensive or don't have what I want, and the only ones that are ideal are out of stock. To add to that I would need new RAM as well, although at this point I'm wanting to get more RAM anyway.

I'm alternatively looking at just getting an AMD FX-6300, but it doesn't seem like it will be very future-proof.

Right now my specs are:

• CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T
  
• GPU: PNY Geforce GTX 660
  
• MoBo: Gigabyte 970A-D3P
  
• RAM: Corsair XMS3 (2 x 4GB, 1333MHz)
  
• PSU: Corsair TX750
  
• OS: Windows 10
  
  Another important detail is I'm Canadian, which means I'll be paying about 1.34x as much money as an american. I'm trying to budget, but can certainly afford to go crazy if ideal.
  
  With all this in mind, do you think I should upgrade most of my system for a new processor? Or should I just get another AMD processor compatible with my current rig? Thanks in advance and sorry if it's too much to take in.

The NUC is great and all, but I would seriously consider an 8 core FX box.

CPU: http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8320FRHKBOX-FX-8320-FX-Series-Edition/dp/B009O7YU56

Motherboard: http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-SABERTOOTH-990FX-R2-0-Motherboard/dp/B008YDJHWM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1426022098&sr=1-2&keywords=sabertooth+99fx+rev+2.0

Memory: http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-BLS4KIT8G3D1609DS1S00-BLS4CP8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B007HAXMGA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1426022147&sr=1-1&keywords=32gb+ddr3

Awesome 6 port NIC: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hotlava-Vesuvius-6-Port-Gig-Intel-Based-NIC-PCIe-6CGigNIC-6C11810A3-/191450536777?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c93575b49

That's basically my whitebox. The Sabertooth Rev 2.0 supports IOMMU if you want to pass a PCIe device to a VM (like a video card and usb controller for a virtualized HTPC)

The six port NIC is awesome for adding routing or IP Storage to it.

I feed a SAS controller to my NAS VM and give it 3 NICS for iSCSI/NFS then I use 2 of the other NICS for my other VM traffic, and the last NIC I use for my router/firewall. The 8320 isn't as fast as the 8350 but I just wanted core count. If you're concerned about sound one of the Corsair water coolers (h55 quiet edition) is pretty damn nice.

I see, so lots of cores is a good thing for this type of work, huh? Alright, so I looked up the AMD processors on this local website and found this one with 6 cores - AMD FX 6300 3.5Ghz BE SkAM3+ (also on Amazon), at 108€.
This should do the trick?

For RAM, 4 of these sounds alright? I don't usually go too high in layers though. Maybe 50~ max. But perhaps it's best to plan ahead and get it for if I do need it in the future.

Also, I must reiterate I don't intend to be able to play new games on max settings. I just want them to be playable on a basic level. I can do just fine without AA and some of the fancier settings. I'd prefer to get something just good enough and instead save the leftover money for other things I plan to get next, like the Cintiq. If somehow I could get all this by much lower than 700€, that'd be great. :p

Yeah, I get that. I don't mean to come off as rough or anything but you can only patch over a build like this so much before you're wasting money and need to start investing into a better machine. I see a lot of guys trying to make something out of nothing here, and it's only hurting themselves.

The best place he can put his money right now for gaming performance is the Graphics card, any other upgrades would probably start getting too costly.

An alternative solution would be to replace the CPU and motherboard with a Pentium G4400. It's probably the best he can get for cheap and it OC's pretty well. The processor in combination with a motherboard to go with it will cost him about 110 GBP before tax and such. The GPU is still a weak spot, but if he's playing low end games that should get him by until he can get ahold of something better.

2200 build list
CPU- http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Boxed-I7-6700K-Processor-BX80662I76700K/dp/B012M8LXQW/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458134248&sr=1-1&keywords=i7+6700k
Price- $410

\Motherboard- http://www.amazon.com/MAXIMUS-VIII-HERO-ALPHA-Motherboards/dp/B017RI8UYA/ref=sr_1_19?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458134314&sr=1-19&keywords=lga+1151+motherboard
Price- $300

PSU- http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-G1-0750-XR/dp/B00K85X2A2/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458138651&sr=1-4&keywords=Psu&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011
Price- $90

GPU- http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Cooling-Graphics-06G-P4-1996-KR/dp/B00Z0UX8TA/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458138400&sr=1-5&keywords=gtx+980+ti
Price- $700

250 GB SSD- http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458138522&sr=1-1&keywords=SSd
Price- $90

500gb M.2 SSd- http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-EVO-3-5-Inch-MZ-N5E500BW/dp/B00TGIW1XG/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458138908&sr=1-5&keywords=m.2+ssd
Price- $160

You can use either option they are both good but the M.2 is my recomendation

RAM- http://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-TridentZ-PC4-24000-Platform-F4-3000C15D-16GTZ/dp/B017QI1V74/ref=sr_1_9?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458138836&sr=1-9&keywords=ddr4+3000
Price- $120

CPU Cooler- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Hydro-Liquid-Cooler-CW-9060010-WW/dp/B009VV56TY/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458138978&sr=1-8&keywords=cpu+cooler
Price- $110

3 TB HDD- http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Desktop-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST1000DM003/dp/B005T3GRNW/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458139072&sr=1-2&keywords=hdd
Price- $90

My favorite gaming keyboard but its up to you. It doesn’t have any fancy side buttons just a great feel and excellent build quality- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00CD1FC6G
Price- $150

total $2130 without the case or windows or optical drive

let me know where it is you would like to go fro here? Is there anything you want to add or take out we can revise this build a couple of times

Well, $150 doesn't really lend itself well into getting you very far.

You could go the AMD route, and get yourself a FX-8350 for, well exactly $150. It's on sale right now, so that price might not last.

If you want to go the Intel route, things become a little more complicated. I'd recommend personally getting a Skylake CPU, as that allows you a great deal of upgradeability down the road. But, at $150 you can't really afford a Skylake i5, short of the i5-6400T, which while viable, I guess, isn't something I'd recommend. You'd want to enter Skylake in around atleast the 6500 or 6600k area.

The choice is yours, AMD is certainly a viable solution, and will continue to be. But going Intel will require you put down some more money. You'd also have to get DDR4 RAM, which honestly, these days isn't that expensive anymore.

EDIT: There is also the i3 route, which is once again, a viable solution. But for the purpose of gaming, and such I would recommend an i5.

Asus Prime B450M-A/CSM AMD Ryzen... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FKV5HWJ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Processor with... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B41WS48?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 X... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B4G525F?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

SanDisk SSD PLUS 1TB Internal SSD... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D998212?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

That’s what we bought and he had a case already and I believe a 520Watt PSU

I also gave him my Asus RTX-2060 6gb. Any case or 2060 card will do the trick tho, that stuff is all about the same performance wise.

Works freaking great. I was very impressed with the performance. It ran almost as good as my 2060 did in my i5 9600k in games. I upgraded to a 2080 Super which is the only reason I gave up the 2060. And if I hadn’t got a 49 super ultra wide monitor I could have stuck with the 2060.

On a single screen it worked great

Sorry, Im new to building, I dont quite understand what you mean by,
>and further investing into the platform is not something I would recommend.

Im just a little confused is all

I dont know if the EVGA 750 GQ is a good PSU, but I feel like its the only solid part in my rig right now lol. If I need better, let me know.

What would be a good GPU to grab on a tight budget? Its something I knew I was going to need to upgrade when I put this rig together, as these are hand-me-downs from a friend. Just some thing to get me by.

And say I was to impulse buy [this] (https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Radeon-Graphics/dp/B079D8FD28), Would I need to upgrade to a new MB, or would the one I have be just fine? I know I might need to flash my current MB's BIOS in order to install it?

There is one problem I'm seeing, which is that your MOBO is for overclocking, but your CPU isnt, so I suggest that you get the i7-7700k (https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Desktop-Processor-i7-7700K-BX80677I77700K/dp/B01MXSI216/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1501567034&sr=1-1&keywords=i7+7700k) and put a nice cooler on there, like the NZXT Kraken if you like pretty lights and such, or any other AIO cooler probably. Also, the most recent system memory is DDR4 and DDR5 is only for GPU's right now (technically GDDR5 but who cares). Another concern is storage, you didn't mention that, and I'm not sure but that PSU might not have enough wattage, I'm not suure, correct me if I'm wrong. Also as a last note, it might be comfort more than anything at this point but it might be a good idea to get 8 more gigs of RAM, but Corsair has some of the best RAM modules.

>Had some offers but none went through so dropped down a bit

Likely because it's $118 on Amazon right now? Might take more to entice people to buy from an individual since Amazon has an excellent return policy and free shipping as most people have Prime. Good luck!

Here's what I would do: MSI Krait edition motherboard + Corsair Dominator Platinum Series RAM sticks. It is a better overclocking mobo and you get the style points for a black/white build. Also, the RAM is faster so you're a little bit more futureproofed. The Cryorig H7 is replacing the 212 in terms of the go-to air cooler, otherwise the Corsair water cooling kit is a great option as well (also fits color scheme). I'm personally recommending 240GB since I've filled up my 120GB with games and programs twice now before I had to do some cleaning. I also like this case better, plus you can remove drive bays to make room for larger GPUs, if you are still undecided about which one you want. I wouldn't worry about M.2, I got that SSD and never ended up using it. If you do end up building this, please do take pics :)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor | $345.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler | $34.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI Z170A KRAIT GAMING 3X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $149.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair Dominator Platinum Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz | $109.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.99 @ Amazon
SSD | Kingston SV300S37A/240G | 67.86 @ Amazon
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card |-
Case | Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case | $54.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $89.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | ~$903.80
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-14 19:36 EDT-0400 |

You can YouTube how to upgrade a pre-built one enough to play games at 60FPS a Medium graphics for fairly cheap. Maybe 500-600 dollars for everything (which isn't bad considering consoles sell for that at launch)

I am in the process of upgrading my Lenovo H50 (AMD) enough to play Siege at a decent pace. I bought my PC about 2 years ago so I already had the computer and just bought a new Motherboard and Processor for about $300 for both of those with 1 day shipping on each of them (I'm impatient) lol but really that isn't all too bad considering the set-up could last me the next 5-7 years and just would upgrade the processor again for another 200 and that's another 5-10 years. Look, just spend some time on YouTube, eBay, and Amazon and check out what you want to get from it and see what you can get done. You'd be amazed really. Good luck, bro.

The power supply will be fine. The i5 and motherboard are a little bit dated, 4GB of memory should probably be upgraded to at least 8GB for modern gaming. You could buy an R9 290 for under $300. You could keep the Radeon HD 5870 (it should still be fine to play games at 1080p medium settings, unless the titles have been ubisofted) and upgrade CPU and Motherboard, then upgrade the 5870 in a month or two. One last thing: upgrade to GTX 750 Ti FTW from EVGA, LGA 1150 motherboard, Pentium G3258, 8GB RAM. That will give you plenty of options for upgrades. You could go as far as a Core i7 + GTX 980 later. The power supply will hold up to any of these options.

Links to items on Amazon:

Just R9 290

R9 290 - http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Corp-290-GAMING/dp/B00HPS4AFG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1419091411&sr=8-3&keywords=r9+290

Keep the HD 5870 and upgrade CPU + Motherboard

Core i5 4670K - http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00CO8TBOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419091540&sr=8-1&keywords=core+i5+4570k

Motherboard - http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-B85M-E-CSM-DDR3-Motherboard/dp/B00CRJU2X2/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1419091591&sr=8-16&keywords=lga+1150+motherboard

Pentium G3258, GTX 750 Ti FTW, LGA 1150 motherboard, 8GB RAM.

Pentium G3258 - http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G3258-BX80646G3258/dp/B00KPRWAZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419090974&sr=8-1&keywords=pentium+g3258

MSI motherboard - http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-MicroATX-Motherboard-H81M-E33/dp/B00F42W70A/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1419090913&sr=8-5&keywords=lga+1150+motherboard

GTX 750 Ti FTW - http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Display-Graphics-02G-P4-3757-KR/dp/B00J0ISHMQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419090882&sr=8-1&keywords=750+ti+ftw

8GB RAM - http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1419091061&sr=1-1&keywords=8GB+ram

Yes, I realize some of these are slightly over a total of $300. Also these options (aside from r9 290) give the system plenty of room to upgrade. As for power supply, the TX 650 should be fine. Reuse your old hard drive and reuse your case.

My build is pretty janky right now. I'm waiting for a new, smaller case to come in and all of my ITX parts are sitting in a big ol' case. Cables are everywhere. You wouldn't want to look at it. :p

Also, you'd be surprised by the amount of frames you can push on the cheap these days. If I were you, I'd look into the AMD 2400G. It's your CPU and graphics card in one chip. It's ~$160, and it's not all that powerful, but it can run WoW at around 100 fps with dips below 60 in congested areas and even play Assassin's Creed Origins at 1080p very stably above 30 fps. Now, this is with lots of settings turned down or off but it's a pretty sweet bargain. Of course, the rest of your parts will be a few hundred dollars more in total, but you could get lots of mileage out of this chip for what you want to be doing.

One option is to upgrade your CPU. The i5 4690k for $250 is the fastest cpu in your price range that your motherboard will support.

Another option, which will be better in the long run, would be to upgrade to the latest platform. This would mean a re-build with a new cpu, motherboard, and RAM. Personally, I recommend Ryzen unless you ONLY use your computer to play AAA gaming titles.

Honestly, in the end, my recommondation is to save that $300 until it grows a bit more and upgrade to the newest platform.

Unless of course you're like me, and love buying computer parts and tinkering this very moment -- in which case go for the 4690k.

Why'd you choose socket 2011? You can get the same gaming performance out of socket 1150 for a LOT cheaper. I'm not sure what is available to be shipped to norway, but I'm fairly certain you can get socket 1150 parts shipped out to you.

For instance, this processor matched with this motherboard will give you excellent basis for a solid gaming rig.

Furthermore, you can up the graphics with the money saved to a GTX 670 or a GTX 760 and get the graphics power to play any game on high (for the most part).

also, that powersuply brand isn't exactly amazing. I'd go for something by seasonic, like this or something by thermaltake like this

For a gaming rig, unless you're planning on running virtual machines off of it or use programs that utilize a LOT of memory space (photoshop, autocad, 3dmax), 8GB of ram is plenty. You don't need 16gb. Nothing can utilize that much running games and basic OS functions.

For the most part, unless you're a SERIOUS audiophile, there is no need for a dedicated sound card, considering the board I linked to, and most other z87/h87 boards come with onboard sound cards that can handle up to 7.1 surround on their own.

If 1150 socket components aren't available to you in Norway, then you can look for 1155 components, IE an i5-3570k with a nice z77 based motherboard.

Let me know if you have those options available to you out there. A lot of money can be saved by switching to a less-robust cpu/motherboard platform.

edit After a bit of trial and error, I've discovered it's rather difficult to get things shipped to Norway. is there a norway-based amazon website you can use? or what?

I'm probably going to just get a new CPU, motherboard and RAM because it seems like a better idea in the long run than to just limit myself to what my current board can utilize and my RAM could definitely be better anyways, so meh why not. Thanks again though, I appreciate it. :)

I'm currently thinking about this:

1. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07598VZR8/ref=twister_B07CN3RVTF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
   
   
2. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157816&Description=intel%20300%20series%20motherboard&cm_re=intel_300_series_motherboard-_-13-157-816-_-Product
   
   
3. https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2666MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1543129405&sr=1-1&keywords=2666
   
   What do you think? I think it's pretty good.

• /r/hardwareswap is a buyer's market, but a little risky unless you do your homework on the seller
  
  
• Ebay is fairly safe considering the buyer protection from both ebay and paypal.
  
      You can easily get a GTX 770 2GB for $200-220 on either site, assuming it will fit in your case (since your mobo is micro-ATX) and your PSU can handle it. The recommended PSU size on the Nvidia website is 550W for the GTX 570, and 600W for the GTX 770, but those are overestimates.
  
      Your RAM is the recommended amount so that's fine as is
  
      With your current mobo you can't really upgrade the CPU which is just okay.
  In the short term, getting a 770 will probably see the most improvement in games, but you should also consider getting a FX-6300 for $100, and a suitable motherboard. A very solid option is this board, although it's $125 plus tax and ($2) shipping, with a $10 mail-in rebate.
  
  If you went the CPU/mobo route, you could look into getting a second 570 and running SLI assuming you have the power to run it. You could also possibly afford a used 760 once you sell your current card. This guy for example is selling one for $160 OBO, although I haven't looked into his credibility.

unless you're going for 144Hz, 2700x is better. sure you lose 5-10 fps, but when your average is 120, and you have a freesynz 75hz panel, it doesn't make a difference.

Lookit, this deal right here. 100 USD less than i5, let's say god B450 or X470 is 50 USD more, that still leaves you with 50 bucks to spend on gamepad, better screen or beer.

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Don't get me wrong, 6 core i5's are AMAZING, but their price is shit right now. I mean 8400 (in my region) went from 200USD to 250USD (tax included) in less than a month, while 2600 is was 200 and still is 200USD, offers 2 times more threads, and platform itself has better upgrade path (AMD will do their Zen2 7nm for AM4 socket).

i5's are great, but you're being a fanboy right here.

Here is a thing that a lot of people seem to be missing out. Your CPU doesn't support higher speed RAM sticks. It supports dual channel at 2667MHz MAX. So you need a CPU that can support higher speed, because AMD LOOOOOOOOOVES RAM. Your motherboard supports up to 3200 MHz OC. The second thing is that you need two exactly matching sticks in order to get the most of your dual channel.

So my suggestion if you are on a budget (because everything else you have seems good) is to do this:

1. Change your CPU to a Ryzen 5 2600 (or 2600X) - there are a lot of great deals right now ( https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07B41WS48 ). This CPU supports up to 3000MHz dual channel RAM and has better processing power than the one you have.
   
2. Buy the exact same 8GB or 16GB RAM stick you already have - make sure they are exactly the same. Even though 32GB is going to be overkill at least you will get the most of your dual channel. IF you can't find anything then get a 2x8GB or 2x16GB kit @ 3000MHz.
   
3. Sell the CPU and the left-over ram stick to get some money back.
   
   N.B. Do not add the extra RAM into your matching kit on the board. You will jeopardise dual channel.
   
   Good luck and don't forget to update your drivers

I have a heat issue. Build specs:

• MSI 970 GAMING ATX AMD Motherboard
  
• Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 2133 MHz
  
• EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0
  
• AMD FD8350FRHKBOX FX-8350 Processor
  
• Corsair CS Series 750 Watt ATX CS750M
  
• Cooler Master Hyper T2
  
  Idle temperatures were 44° C with the stock cooler so I replaced it with the T2. The case purchased didn't allow a T4 to fit in it - it was about half an inch too high.
  
  With the T2 idle temperatures dropped to 26° C while the cores are running @ 1400 Mhz.
  
  No overclocking has been left in place; it was accidentally enabled for a short period. However, when my son starts playing games he finds himself at 76° C and the thermal protection kicks in, locking the box up.
  
  I made sure to remove the plastic on the bottom of the T2, where contact is made between the cooler pipes and the CPU. I made sure to evenly spread the thermal paste over the chip. I've ensured that the cooler is tightly clamped to the CPU.
  
  Now this board has an "OC Genie" and he did activate it, however, I uninstalled the software overclocker (MSI Command Center) and turned off the OC Genie in the BIOS. I reset the power supply levels to default, as well as anything else I could find in the BIOS. (I don't do overclocking at this point in my life. If I want a 5% boost in speed, I pay for it.)
  
  There are two fans on the case, one on the front and one on the back. The computer is currently in a corner area with little to no ventilation, so that's the next thing we're changing. However, I thought it might be useful to ask for advice from all of you.
  
  Any advice on what I can do to help cool this thing? I know AMDs tend to run much hotter than Intels, but this seems ridiculous. In general I see acceptable ranges of 20° C to 60° C. Would you guys agree that's an acceptable range?
  
  If necessary we can buy a new case and put the T4, or whatever recommended cooler is there, on the PC.
  
  Thanks.
  

Thank you for replying. I think I will just return both my 1080s and get the Xp since it is the same price. Is the Titan Xp different than the other Titans? When I look at the prices on Amazon compared to the Nvidia link you graciously provided, the price difference the X (very expensive) and the Xp (cheaper) is astounding.

I am going to order the Xp now. Thank you for linking me to it. Is this CPU good enough for the Titan?: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MXSI216/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here is my build list formated for reddit

Group | Name | Price | Quantity | Total | Link
--- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
Pc | (Everything Inside the case) | | | |
$1,601.62 | Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor | $347.00 | 1 | $347.00 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012M8LXQW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Cooler Master Hyper D92 54.8 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler | $44.80 | 1 | $44.80 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NXLYE4G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $171.49 | 1 | $171.49 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012N6EW6G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory | $129.99 | 1 | $129.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OTJZTZE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $97.99 | 1 | $97.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OAJ412U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Hitachi HD​S723020BLA​642 | $58.00 | 3 | $174.00 | EBay
| EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card | $459.99 | 1 | $459.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I60OGUK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $90.39 | 1 | $90.39 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KYK1CC6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| XFX AMD Radeon HD 5450 1GB | $29.99 | 2 | $59.98 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005IUW7YE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| PWM Female to 4 x PWM Male Computer Case Fan Splitter | $6.50 | 2 | $13.00 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DYQRFY6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Sabrent 2.5" SSD & SATA Hard Drive to Desktop 3.5" | $12.99 | 1 | $12.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UN550AC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| 80MM 5000RPM Fan | $0.00 | 2 | $0.00 |
| 92MM 5000RPM Fan | $0.00 | 4 | $0.00 |
Monitors | | | | |
$744.66 | Seiki Pro SM28UTR 28-Inch 4K UHD 3840x2160 | $195.69 | 1 | $195.69 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013XWQF28/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| AOC e2460Sd 24-Inch Widescreen LED Monitor | $142.99 | 3 | $428.97 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C99MUHQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Dell 17" 5:4 | $30.00 | 4 | $120.00 | EBay
Cables | | | | |
$137.77 | Cable Matters Gold Plated DisplayPort to DisplayPort Cable 10 Feet | $11.99 | 1 | $11.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005H3Q5E0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Cable Matters Active DisplayPort to DVI Male to Female Adapter | $19.99 | 2 | $39.98 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EDT01TO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| DVI Male to Female 90 Degree Adapter Connector | $4.43 | 3 | $13.29 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008X0ZJZ0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| 15ft 28AWG CL2 Dual Link DVI-D Cable - Black | $10.47 | 3 | $31.41 | https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=102&cp_id=10209&cs_id=1020902&p_id=2760&seq=1&format=2
| 15ft Super VGA M/M | $5.69 | 4 | $22.76 | https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=102&cp_id=10201&cs_id=1020101&p_id=3622&seq=1&format=2
| 15ft USB 2.0 A Male to A Female Extension | $1.87 | 5 | $9.35 | https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030304&p_id=5435&seq=1&format=2
| 25ft hdmi cable | $8.99 | 1 | $8.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SKVMHI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Desk Accesseries | | | | |
$263.49 | Perixx PX-5200 Cherry MX Blue | $72.91 | 1 | $72.91 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NY45NCY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Logitech C310 Webcam | $31.93 | 1 | $31.93 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003LVZO8S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Lapel Mics | $6.50 | 1 | $6.50 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DJOIHE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| FingerPrint Reader | $12.58 | 1 | $12.58 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HHHP7C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Mouse Pad | $8.99 | 1 | $8.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GB0IF50/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Headset Func HS260 | $79.99 | 1 | $79.99 | https://www.amazon.com/FUnc-FUNC-HS-260-1ST-fUnc-HS-260/dp/B00HH3H83U
| Altec ACS 54 - Speaker | $0.00 | 1 | $0.00 |
| Logitech G700S | $50.59 | 1 | $50.59 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BFOEY3Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Audio Accesseries | | | | |
$58.33 | BEHRINGER MICROAMP HA400 | $24.99 | 1 | $24.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KIPT30/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| 5-Pack 6.35mm Male to 3.5mm Female Adapter | $7.99 | 1 | $7.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XAQD4YA/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| 3.5mm Male to 2 x 3.5mm Female Splitter Cable | $3.99 | 1 | $3.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0081ZBNI4/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Coupler 3.5 mm Female - 3.5 mm Female Stereo or Mono | $3.93 | 1 | $3.93 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000068O4N/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| 3 feet Slim 3.5mm Stereo Audio Cable - M/M | $2.71 | 2 | $5.42 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004G3UK5C/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| 3-Feet 3.5mm Stereo Male to Female Extension Cable, 5-Pack | $12.01 | 1 | $12.01 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SWOJLSS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Lighting | | | | |
$86.88 | Studio Designs Swing Arm Lamp Black | $24.75 | 2 | $49.50 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I2S7MHQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Lutron TT-300NLH-BL Credenza Lamp Dimmer Black | $14.83 | 1 | $14.83 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00024BJZE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Triple Outlet Swivel Adapter, White | $3.27 | 1 | $3.27 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HJBENG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Daylight LED Light Bulb 15W | $9.64 | 2 | $19.28 | https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-GVRLA1850ND-Great-Value-LED-15W-A19-Light-Bulb/38596922
Cable Managment | | | | |
$18.81 | 100 Velcro Ties | $5.00 | 2 | $10.00 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001E1Y5O6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| 100 Releasable cable ties | $2.47 | 3 | $7.41 | https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=105&cp_id=10520&cs_id=1052012&p_id=5795&seq=1&format=2
| Cable Clip nais | $0.70 | 2 | $1.40 | https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=105&cp_id=10520&cs_id=1052006&p_id=5834&seq=1&format=2
Power | | | | |
$53.13 | Monster MP AV 750 Audio Video PowerCenter | $18.99 | 1 | $18.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ETIKH8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| AmazonBasics 6-Outlet Surge Protector Power Strip 2-Pack | $12.99 | 1 | $12.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TP1BWMK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| 3 Outlet Single-Tap Wall Tap | $4.00 | 2 | $8.00 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007XQORTO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| 15ft 16AWG Power Cord Cable | $5.20 | 1 | $5.20 | https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=102&cp_id=10228&cs_id=1022801&p_id=5287&seq=1&format=2
| 10ft 18AWG Right Angle Power Cord Cabl | $2.65 | 3 | $7.95 | https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=102&cp_id=10228&cs_id=1022809&p_id=7677&seq=1&format=2
Network | | | | |
$33.98 | TP-LINK 8-Port Gigabit Desktop Switch | $22.99 | 1 | $22.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EVGIYG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| 5-Pack, Cat6 Ethernet Patch Cable in Blue 3 Feet | $10.99 | 1 | $10.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C2B81K6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Monitor Mount | | | | |
$215.27 | Arm wall mount | $17.54 | 3 | $52.62 | https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=109&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082821&p_id=12232&seq=1&format=2
| Top wall mount bracket | $4.80 | 4 | $19.20 | https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=109&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082821&p_id=3005&seq=1&format=2
| Center Monitor Mount | $7.99 | 1 | $7.99 | https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=109&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082821&p_id=4564&seq=1&format=2
| 2x8 | $7.47 | 3 | $22.41 | https://www.lowes.com/pd/Top-Choice-Common-2-in-x-8-in-x-10-ft-Actual-1-5-in-x-7-25-in-x-10-ft-Lumber/4082916
| 2x4 | 2.55 | 1 | $2.55 | https://www.lowes.com/pd/Common-2-in-x-4-in-x-8-ft-Actual-1-5-in-x-3-5-in-x-8-ft-Stud/1000074211
| 3" clamp | $5.98 | 6 | $35.88 | https://www.lowes.com/pd/IRWIN-QUICK-GRIP-3-in-Clamp/50214643
| 4" Hinge | $2.81 | 2 | $5.62 | https://www.lowes.com/pd/Gatehouse-4-in-H-Oil-Rubbed-Bronze-Interior-Exterior-Mortise-Door-Hinge/4772785
| Wood Screws | $9.00 | 1 | $9.00 | Lowes
| Assorted brackets/hardware | $25.00 | 1 | $25.00 | Lowes
| Case Rack Mount | $35.00 | 1 | $35.00 | EBay
Misc | | | | |
$35.97 | Steam Link | $19.99 | 1 | $19.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016XBGWAQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
| Bluetooth Adapter | $7.99 | 1 | $7.99 | GRANDCOW Bluetooth 4.0 USB Adapter Dongle for Windows 10/ 8.1 / 8/ 7 / Vista / XP
| 19 Key Numeric Keypad | $7.99 | 1 | $7.99 | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DJSAAU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Where are you located so I can get a good estimate on shipping as well, I can definitely help you out a bit, I'd personally recommend these parts! best of luck

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**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor]

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Radeon-Graphics/dp/B079D3DBNM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3J6Z71ENDQVGL&keywords=ryzen+2200g&qid=1566448604&s=gateway&sprefix=ryzen+2200%2Caps%2C143&sr=8-1 $79.99

**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard]

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450M-DS3H-Ryzen-Motherboard/dp/B07FWVJSHC/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1A5RQVMOUMJS&keywords=am4+motherboard&qid=1566458514&s=gateway&sprefix=am4+mother%2Caps%2C162&sr=8-5 $73.99

**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory]

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=corsair+vengeance+lpx+16gb+%282+x+8+gb%29+ddr4-3000+memory&qid=1566458767&s=gateway&sr=8-1 $74.99

TOTAL COST : $228 before taxes ~$241 after or 17284.8815 INR

Something like a silent, windowed, white case at this budget with everything you need included is going to take too much of a bite to be worth it. I've included a white NZXT Source 210 Elite though. Hopefully it's close enough to what you're looking for.

This is very much video editing optimized. The 8-core FX-8320 just loves chewing through media tasks, and the Radeon HD7750 is extremely light on power, but gives you the advantage of the GCN architecture's powerful OpenCL acceleration. Will obliterate Minecraft as well.

The only thing missing there is speakers. Realistically if you're doing monitoring work for your videos, you'll be better off getting a set of decent headphones. The Superlux HD661 would be perfect for that, and will only run you $40.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor | $149.99 @ Microcenter
Motherboard | Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard | Purchased For $39.99
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $47.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $47.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $85.99 @ NCIX US
Video Card | PowerColor Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card | $62.48 @ NCIX US
Case | NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case | $42.79 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply | $19.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive | LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer | $15.98 @ Outlet PC
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) | $88.98 @ Outlet PC
Monitor | Asus VS229H-P 21.5" Monitor | $126.00 @ Newegg
Keyboard | Lite-On SK-1788/BS Wired Standard Keyboard | $12.98 @ Newegg
Mouse | V7 M30P10-7N Wired Optical Mouse | $4.11 @ Amazon
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $795.26
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-26 21:15 EDT-0400 |

The Microcenter combo deal on the CPU/Motherboard is included. Also, since Amazon is offering the 8320 for $145 it can't hurt to ask if they'll price match, even if it's only $5.

That console is pretty low end to be honest. The problems are the RAM (only 4GB), and the graphics for this says "Custom Nvidia Maxwell GTX CPU". I would go custom build, but you don't want to :(. There are very few good cheap prebuilt PC's

This is an ok prebuilt PC

Try pcpartpicker, ask on /r/buildapc. Custom built are really the way to go nowadays :).

Check this out:

GPU

CPU

RAM

HDD

CASE

PSU

It's a pretty decent build. Not great, but inside your price range. I know it's definitely better than that console.

If you want a decent gaming PC, check out the subreddit buildapc.

It should be fine but if was you i would get a i5-4690k as its only around 20-30 dollars more and the benchmarks on i5 4690k look alot better for that small price increase. (For reference i5 4460 and [i5 4690k](http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5- 4690K+%40+3.50GHz) benchmarks) Also keep in mind you can overclock the 4690k if you want it to preform better in 3-4 years time. Glad to help.

Yo what is this article, it's made a list of the top 5 pre-built gaming PC's and they are all by the same brand, are they just the only competitive pre-built manufacturer?

Anyway, quick amazon US search (amazon isn't even the cheapest place for a lot of these parts) shows that all those parts are worth maybe 460 dollars (plus a case and windows which you can get for free) they also don't list any of the models/brands so I assume that means they are terrible, on the amazon search I get legit brands like EVGA for the PSU. See for yourself: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GTX-960-2G/dp/B00SAYDRP8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473949393&sr=8-1&keywords=Nvidia+GTX+960+2GB+GDDR5+Video+Card

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-DDR3-Micro-Motherboard-GA-78LMT-USB3/dp/B009FC3YJ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473949409&sr=8-1&keywords=amd+760g

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD6300WMHKBOX-FX-6300-6-Core-Processor/dp/B009O7YORK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473949427&sr=8-1&keywords=fx-6300

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9E7O/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1473949445&sr=1-2&keywords=8gb+ram

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-WHITE-Warranty-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473949459&sr=8-1&keywords=500w+psu

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Cache-Desktop-Drive-WD10EZEX/dp/B0088PUEPK/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1473949474&sr=1-1&keywords=1tb+hdd

You said you don't have a lot of money so I would definitely just build your own, other people have linked to subreddits that can tell you what components are best for the money for what you're going to be using it for, wouldn't be surprised if you could be playing CS:GO at 300 fps on a 450 dollar computer. When you buy a pre-built you are basically paying the manufacturer an extra 30% for them to build it for you, which is like 150 dollars in this case, for what would take you a couple of hours, idk anyone who's time is worth that much, you also lose the ability to save money by cutting costs in certain areas, you don't need a sick GPU to play CS:GO afaik for example.

Then definitely go with AMD if you're on such a budget. Something like this would be awesome for a budget build, and even go for that based on upcoming deals.

Note that you're not limited to Amazon as a vendor or those exact CPU's. That's just to give you an idea.

I am pretty new to this and only starting researching and learning under 2 months ago. That's my build so far and I probably spent around your budget if you exclude that GPU not accounting for Windows and monitor. This subreddit has been awesome for me finding deals. My build isn't done and things marked purchased with price are stuff I found through here while the rest is to be determined.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor | Purchased For $204.87
Motherboard | Gigabyte - B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard | $139.99 @ Amazon Canada
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | Purchased For $177.74
Storage | Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $33.75 @ Vuugo
Storage | Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | Purchased For $111.87
Storage | Seagate - Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | Purchased For $0.00
Storage | Seagate - Barracuda 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | Purchased For $0.00
Video Card | Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8GB NITRO+ Video Card | Purchased For $365.64
Case | Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case | Purchased For $96.04
Power Supply | SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | Purchased For $61.82
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $119.50 @ Vuugo
Monitor | BenQ - GW2270 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor | $109.99 @ Amazon Canada
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1421.21
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-30 23:41 EDT-0400 |

Build details:

Streacom FC8 Alpha case - $190

Ryzen 5 2400G - $169

Gigabyte GA-AB350N-Wifi - $125

G.Skill 2x4GB 3200 DDR4 - $115

Mini-Box picoPSU-120-WI-25 - $60

19V 120W AC Adapter - $18

CPU power connector - $5

ATX extension - $6

So the case is WAY expensive, but options with internal passive cooling hardware aren't exactly frequent, and the build quality is great. The Motherboard did pose a little trouble, since it came with an ancient bios... But I kinda knew that might happen. I have another PC with an 1800x, so I just borrowed it for a bit to do the bios update.

With the build complete, stress testing using intelburntest on extreme does get it a little hotter than I like - quickly rises into the 60's and by the time it really plateaus it's in the low 80s. Admittedly, that's sustained stress, so probably not a concern, but I felt a little better after underclocking to 3.4 and pulling the voltage back to 1.18 max using the pstate OC options. After that, it now never breaks mid-60s under stress, and cinebench score dropped from 880 to 818 - acceptable for the particular use case. I also tested heat buildup in the 3dmark paraglider stress test, and video underclocking wasn't necessary. Underclocking will also likely help with the power limitations --- Although in both stress tests, power was a non-issue, the PSU is just 120w. One side note about psu selection: There are a lot of picoPSUs out there, but almost all of them NEED 12v from the brick, and just directly pass that 12v input to the 12 rail. That's a good solution, but 19v high-current bricks are a LOT less expensive than the 12v equivalents. Especially when you consider the possibility of replacing a brick, I think it's a better solution to get the slightly more expensive picoPSU that accepts higher input voltages (12-24 all OK). Plus, that means the 12v rail is likely better regulated than raw output from a brick.

The PC is my wife's - She just changed jobs, and her computer resides in our bedroom. She uses it for some Android development, accessing her work vm, general purpose pc (browsing, bills, you know), skype, and some light gaming. The old one was a basic build with inexpensive PSU, so when it was on it was crazy loud. Now?

Utter. Dead. Silence :) Also a LOT less space occupied. Total cost was just under $700. Case was of course a huge part of that expense.

Edit to add: forgot to mention, had a MyDigitalSSD 240g m.2 drive in hand already, so that's the drive in use here.

Seems like you're missing some RAM - your computer wont work without it. Get the cheapest 2x4gb (8gb total) that you can find. 1600 mt/s is good enough for gaming, and anything over 8gb is overkill for games. I'd recommend Crucial Ballistix 2x4gb kit - Amazon link. It'll run you about $60.

I'd recommend a better video card - 1gb isn't quite enough for some of the higher end games out there these days. Check out this msi radeon 7870 on newegg - you'll get 2 free games (you can pick which 2) with it as well because of AMD's new never settle promotion (see game titles here). This card is only about $50 more than your current one, and it'll give you twice as much video ram (2gb).

Those 2 changes will put you in the $750 range. If you wanna spend closer to $800, I'd recommend a processor upgrade. Check out the AMD 8320 - Amazon link. For another $25 bucks you'll get an 8 core processor, instead of 6 (same mobo will work as well). It's a smaller priced upgrade than an SSD. You'll notice the performance increase when doing heavy multitasking, which at college is likely to happen (office docs open, gaming, browsers open, etc)

First off, I'd like to confirm that this is your motherboard.

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4305#ov

If it is, you can see from the page there that the socket is AM3+, so you'll want to find a processor that fits this socket. If you look at pcpartpicker, you can easily find processors that fit these specification.

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/cpu/#k=4

(hopefully that link works, it should processors that fit the AM3+ socket type, make sure that is checked on the right side of the screen)

Ok, so here comes the recommendation. I highly recommend the 8350, as it is one of the processors that rivals intel's chips most commonly used for gaming. You shouldn't have any problems playing any games on it, as your GPU will most likely be the bottleneck.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YUF6/?tag=pcpapi-20


I'm also inclined to ask the wattage on your power supply, and who the manufacturer is. You wouldn't want to put a more intensive processor and risk everything because of a power supply that isn't adequate. You should be fine, seeing as you currently have a 660 installed, but please do a check to make sure you'll be ok installing a new CPU. I would recommend any power supply made by a well-known manufacturer, above 450-500 watts.

I'm using if for a number of things, probably should've listed this in the original post. I only play one game, league of legends, and that doesn't take up much space. I used to be a digital artist, so I do some photoshop and illustrator design work for friends on occasion, but that's not really a priority. I am also in school, but I just use google docs for most stuff, so I won't have many other files or programs on the computer.

Almost all of the space on my current computer is taken up by movies and tv shows I've torrented, but I have no reason to keep any of it, I just haven't needed to delete anything yet so I haven't.

I guess I'll see how far I can negotiate the price down on #3 to decide if its worth it. If I don't decide to do that, though, I'll definitely take your advice on the i5 and 2 sticks of 4gb. Would that be more expensive? Also, what if I did a 500gb ssd? Do you know about how much more that would cost?

Thanks!

edit: looks like it'll cost about an extra $70 to jump up to an i5, not sure if it's worth it but I'll still consider it. It's only an extra $50 for the 480gb ssd so I might do that (although at that point I guess I could just get the 240gb ssd and the 1tb hard drive, thoughts?). The 2x4gb ram I'll definitely do though.

honestly monitor just get BenQ XL2720Z 27 inch is all u need more than that is just too fucking big, its the best out there right now for a good price, I just got it like 2 weeks ago and its fucking epic also i7 6700K is one of the best processors out there, and maybe a NVIDIA GTX 10 series and u r ready to go fam

/r/BuildaPC has some good advice, but here's some tips- an i5 4690k is possibly the best processor you can get, and it's a little cheaper. Are you planning on getting a graphics card eventually? If so I'd suggest a GTX 770 or 780. PSU wise I'd suggest getting one more trustworthy, such as a Corsair CX750M. It's about the same price, semi-modular, and will future proof you in case you upgrade.

All in all the parts below are pretty damn nice and not overkill for what you need. Very good cpu imo (using one in a current build), quality msi mobo, not a crazy power supply (most people go overboard with their psu) and the case.... don't even get me started. So good! Best of luck to you and your build

Motherboard:http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Motherboards-Z97-PC-MATE/dp/B00K23BW70/ref=zg_bs_1048424_43

CPU:http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1417246859&sr=1-4&keywords=cpu

PSU:http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H33SDR4/ref=twister_B00NCZND2C?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Case:http://www.amazon.com/Fractal-Design-Define-Cases-FD-CA-DEF-R4-BL-W/dp/B008HD3E6Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1417247326&sr=1-1&keywords=fractal+design+define+r4

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor | $120.00
Memory | Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory | $123.90 @ OutletPC
Storage | SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $83.88 @ OutletPC
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card | $469.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $797.77
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 14:13 EDT-0400 |

This is a really nice chain of upgrades for your pc. The CPU is optional but with the link included you can get it at a decent price lightly used and its oveclockable. The 1070 will definitely improve your gaming performance though. Good luck!

I5 3570k- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007SZ0E1K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_SjkJzbGRFQT16

Power Supply

Graphics Card

Ram

CPU

Comes out to about $405. To be honest I’d recommend a new build completely. That case doesn’t have very good airflow, and I’m guessing HP has a pretty cheap motherboard in it too. But obviously you’re just trying to upgrade on a budget so this should be good. You could opt out of getting the CPU if you wanted to save some money if you wanted.

Hey here is the build of my upgraded PC. I have move from the Dell XPS 15 Laptop to a custom built PC. Please check out the video and let me know what you think. I have given the list of parts I used for the build down bellow. I have also provided links to where I bought the items.
Thank you for watching. Please like and subscribe for more videos.
Parts:
Graphics Card
ASUS GeForce DUAL-GTX1060--O6G 6 GB Graphics Card - Silver
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01IPFN7UQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Processor
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 65 W 8/16 Core 3.7 GHz 4 MB CPU - Black
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06WP5YCX6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Motherboard
Asus ROG STRIX B350-F Socket AM4 AMD B350
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072C6VPZJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Ram
Corsair CMR16GX4M2C3000C15 Vengeance RGB 16 GB
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XRFNWHK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

SSD
WD Black WDS512G1X0C 512 GB PCIe High-Performance NVMe SSD Solid State Drive
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01MR4VOBZ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Power Supply
Corsair TX-M Series 650 Watt 80 Plus Gold Certified PSU
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06WVWXPVZ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Optical Drive
G GH24NSD1 Internal DVD Burner https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00A6S6VKE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Case
Game Max Titan PC Gaming Case with 2 x RGB Front Fan, 1 x Rear Fan and Remote Control - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0713M89C2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Monitor
Dell SE2416H - LED monitor - Full HD (1080p) - 24" - with 3-Years Advance Exchange Service
https://www.pcworldbusiness.co.uk/catalogue/item/P231551P?awc=2371_1537287498_94d051edd1a62c40b61c45d59240c0fa&utm_source=PCPartPicker&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=Affiliate

WIFI
Wireless USB WiFi Adapter AC 600Mbps Dual Band 2.4G/150Mbps + 5.8G/433Mbps with High-gain Antenna
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072FJS5MT/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Windows
Windows 10 home & professional both 32 64 Bit Bootable recovery usb flash drive stick
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Windows-professional-Bootable-recovery-flash/dp/B07D2YMJVB/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1537287616&sr=8-13&keywords=windows+10

What GPU are you using ? If you want better performance, the GPU is going to have a greater impact. If you don't have a good GPU, the GeForce GTX 1050ti is great and no other part should bottleneck it. If you do have a good GPU maybe your problem is not the CPU but RAM. How much/ How fast is your RAM ? The CPU is not that bad and other parts could be the issue. If its confirmed that the CPU needs to be upgraded.

The exact name of the Motherboard would also help as some chipsets may need a BIOS update for compatability for a certain CPU

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One CPU i found is the i5-4690k

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4460-1150-BX80646I54460/dp/B00JIJUBAS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1536427500&sr=8-2&keywords=i5-4690K

190 USD, 4cores 4threads 3,5GHz-3,9GHz in turbo. Seems pretty solid.

it depends on the model of i3 and the model of i5

in general, an i5 will be better than an i3, but if you're comparing an i5-2400 to an i3-6300, the i3 will be better.

a lot of stats involving pc parts are misleading if considered by themselves. for example, the AMD fx-4300 is 3.8ghz but the i5 6300 is only 3.2ghz. so the fx 4300 should be better, right? absolutely not.

to find which models are better than others, 3rd party benchmarks help a lot(just google i3-xxxx vs i5-xxxx or whatever), especially for AMD vs Intel comparisons.

All in for £350...

i5 4690k for £170 (It's only £30 more than a 4460 so why not)

MSI H81-E34 for £45 Why this board? It's a secret overclocker and it's a bargain.

And a Sapphire R9 380 Nitro for £150 It's not quite a 390 or 970 but it'll certainly play GTA 5 almost maxed (my 270X plays a mix of high and ultra) and it should handle any modern game at 1080p at high settings 60fps+ when paired with an i5.

In total around £365, if you wanted to OC the CPU you'd need a better cooler but you really shouldn't need to with an i5 at 3.5GHZ but the option is there. You could drop down to a lesser i5 and still get great results if the budget was strict.

Wow thanks a lot! But I didnt express myself right, what I ment is that the GPU is included im my budget. So the price for the CPU is a little high for me. I was having my eye on this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Skylake-Desktop-Processor-BX80662I56500/dp/B010T6CWI2

Think this one will do as well...? That would be more or less my price range

I really like all the other parts you picked for me. So with just a cheaper cpu, like the intel i5, would the motherboard you picked be compatible with it? Or do you have a better suggestion?

Thanks a lot buddy!

CPU/GPU Combo, AMD APU Ryzen 2400g - $160.

16GB RAM, TridentZ RGB. - $165. It's important not to skimp on cheap RAM, the APU needs fast dual channel ram to be able to process the graphics as it shares memory lanes with the system memory, as all APUs do. You could go with 8GB and be fine though, just buy a 2x4GB kit for dual channel support and you'll save $80. Try to clock the RAM to at least 3200MHZ in the BIOS to get the most out of the APU or buy ram that comes at that speed.

240GB SSD. -$40. I prefer a smaller capacity but fast and cheap SSD over a larger hard drive, keep in mind the case only holds one 2.5" drive and one extra if you buy a hard drive caddy for the optical drive slot in the case.

Motherboard, has WIFI and Bluetooth built in. - $110. Solid board, decent VRM, great reviews. If you build in my small case, you gotta get an ITX size motherboard, nothing else will fit.


10.1" Monitor. - $110. See this comment for my thoughts on this one. It's the best price to performance portable USB powered monitor I could find. Don't buy the 7" one, it has half the resolution.

The In-Win ITX PC case. - $70. Comes with a 150w power supply, but does not have a GPU slot, hence the AMD APU. Very small, 3 x 8.9 x 7.6 inches.

Pcpartpicker list doesn’t have the items I’d like to show you, but here’s what I recommend. (This PC could easily game 1440p)
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Storage: Pioneer m.2 nvme 512gb

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07P5QFRGJ/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=A1SNQ8NRBE1IGO&psc=1
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Extra Storage:Seagate BarraCuda 2tb 7200rpms

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07H2RR55Q/ref=ox_sc_act_image_10?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
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Ram/Mem: Timetic Ext Perf hynix 3200MHz

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07P6F97B1/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A23AD5LOJUVSEP&psc=1
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Power Supply: EVGA 750BQ Bronze 750W

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01FYDUDJ0/ref=ox_sc_act_image_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
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Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07STGGQ18/ref=ox_sc_act_image_6?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
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GPU: Zotac Gaming Geforce RTX 2070 Super

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07XSPWMP9/ref=ox_sc_act_image_7?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
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Motherboard: MSI B450m PRO-VDH Max (3rd gen ryzen ready out of box without bios update)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07XH629TV/ref=ox_sc_act_image_8?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
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Case: Fractal Design Define C Mini

https://www.amazon.com/Fractal-Design-MicroATX-Cases-FD-CA-DEF-Mini-C-BK/dp/B01N05CPU8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=fractal+design+define+c+mini&qid=1573378413&sr=8-2
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As everyone else is saying, PLEASE optimize your CPU before anything else. Everything else on your rig is overkilling your Processor while this game is CPU dependent itself. As rekklessisme said, I have almost the identical setup as him and I can say he's telling the truth. This Is one of the best processors i've had by far.

Reply back if you need further help, i'd be happy to assist.

That's pretty good ST performance. The i7-8700k at around 4.7GHz has a CB score of 1447 (MT), 208 (ST).

So a slight dip in single-threaded performance for individual cores but a massive gain in multi-core performance.

I believe they are supposed to be in the same price range so it's definitely a good value in comparison to Intel.

The Russian price is 23,050 Russian Ruble which is approximately $396.46 US Dollar at current exchange rates. Russia automatically includes 18% sales tax on the price. So $396.46 / 1.18 gives us $335.98 without any taxes.

For my area sales tax would be 9.5% so I would have to pay $367.90.

Comparatively an i7-8700k is $349.99 on average. Though Amazon right now has dipped in the past 2 hours to $329.00. I'll just estimate based on both. $383.24 and $360.26 respectively.



AMD Ryzen 2700X(OC 4.4GHz) | Intel Core i7-8700K(OC 4.7 GHz)
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ST: 186 | ST: 208
MT: 2004 | MT: 1447
Cost(Pre-Tax): $335.98(Estimate) | Cost(Pre-Tax): $329.00-$349.99

Thanks for the feedback. So I see you replaced both the processor I was looking at and the case.

Is the AMD FX-8320 really worth the extra money over the Intel G3258? With Amazon selling the G3258 for $57, the AMD is twice the price. Will having the 8-core make a huge difference in performance given the data crunching I will be doing with it? I assume that in this case, the number of cores will be more important than the difference in clock rate? Otherwise, would it be better to go with a cheaper CPU with the intention of upgrading later?

Also, my other concern with your build is the case. It's significantly larger than the Roseville case I originally included (in terms of both footprint and the overall volume). I'd really like to stick with something more along the lines of a mini tower (so microATX). Do you have any suggestions for builds that would fit in the Rosewill Legacy U3-B) case?

To answer your question about the leather arm rest, it is probably the most comfortable thing I’ve experienced for gaming. Never thought I needed one until I had one. It’s the only reason I still use a razer, otherwise I’d switch to a Corsair.

Monitor: ASUS VG248QE 24 inch... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00B19T7QC?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Mouse: Razer Deathadder Black (Elite?)

Mouse mat: Corsair mm800C RGB Polaris... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0759L45CG?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Headphone Stand: Corsair Gaming ST100 RGB... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074ZQJW9R?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Headphones: Corsair Void Pro RGB USB Gaming Headset (Customisable RGB Lighting, Microfibre Memory Foam Earcups, 7.1 Dolby Surround Sound, Optimised Unidirectional Microphone) - White https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0749GKR2Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_PGgUBbRV1R9EX

LEDs: Kohree TV Backlight Bias HDTV... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N4869RE?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Tower: Corsair CC-9011074-W W Graphite Series 760T V2 Windowed Full Tower ATX Performance Gaming Case for PC - White https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00P7TPYI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_wIgUBb2AW1PM6

Motherboard: ASUS Intel 1151 Socket Z370 Chipset Maximus X Hero D4 ATX Motherboard - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0764H6KPN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_DJgUBbYEAMV9T

Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX1070Ti Strix 8G 8 GB GDDR5 PCI Express Graphics Card - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B076VNJX2G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_NKgUBb5A3ER2A

RAM: Corsair CMU16GX4M2C3000C15 Vengeance LED 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 3000 MHz C15 XMP 2.0 Enthusiast LED Illuminated Memory Kit, Black with White LED Lighting https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01HKF4ZUI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JLgUBb2YDPMA5

CPU: Intel BX80684I78700K 8th Gen Core i7-8700K Processor https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07598VZR8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_vMgUBb3VRMB2M

Power Supply: Corsair CP-9020008-UK Professional Series Digital AX1200i ATX/EPS Fully Modular 80 PLUS Platinum Power Supply Unit, 1200 W https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008QB8URK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_5MgUBbPPAG8J0

Liquid Cooling: Corsair H115i PRO RGB water cooling (two ML140 fans, advanced software control of RGB lighting and fan speed, zero RPM fan mode) black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B077G3C6HH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_NNgUBb5VJ4G23

Don't buy a prebuilt, they are not worth the money, if you already have a decent case then you might as well swap out the existing hardware, and for $700 you could get some pretty decent hardware. Graphics Card and Processor with enough left over to buy atleast 8 Gig of ram and some better fans, bam you have a very good gaming PC. If you know how to put it together that's great, if not I could guide you if you wanted. Hope this helped.

Everyone recommending a Ryzen 5 1600 here is crazy. I'm assuming you'll be mainly gaming (no video rendering or editing) and the Ryzen 5 1600 would bottlenec the 1080ti for sure and probably the 1080 also. hat's espcially true for 60fps. My recommendation is a 7700k, or a 7600k if you can't afford the full i7. The 7700k is the decidedly best gaming cpu (and all that anyone pretty much ever needs unless you do professional stuff like 3D modeling) so that would be your best choice.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-i7-7700K-QuadCore-Cache-Processor/dp/B01MXSI216/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1501964013&sr=1-1&keywords=7700k

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-1151-PRIME-Z270-Motherboard/dp/B01N1UVO5Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1501964041&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+z270-a

TL;DR: Currently have i3-6100. Looking at i5-6500 and i5-7500. Would like an upgrade recommendation so I can run games like Tarkov and PubG.

I'm very sad to say, I built this rig in late 2016, and I still feel like I don't know what the hell I'm doing. I got by with a lot of help from redditors and Youtube videos so I have no idea what's good and what isn't.

Currently, I have an i3-6100. I skimped on some parts due to being on a budget. In addition to upgrading my RAM by 8GB (Currently have 8GB) I'm hoping to upgrade my CPU. I also have an EVGA GTX 950 in there.

If it matters This is my motherboard

So what I'm looking for is an LGA 1151 slot, right?

Here is the first option

Here is the second option

What confuses me, is the second one is one generation newer than the first one, right? Why are they the same price? I'm also told if I go above a certain gen I'd have to upgrade my BIOS? I'd like to avoid that if possible. I've also read that in reality, an i5 is plenty sufficient for games, and i7 isn't worth the extra money unless you're video editing/rendering, etc. Lastly, the stock cooler that comes with the cpu should suffice, yes? I don't care about overclocking.

I'm looking to smoothly run Tarkov, Hunt Showdown, PubG, things like that. I don't care about 4k or 1440p or anything really. Ideally I'd like to at least keep it to 60fps though. Smooth gameplay is primarily what I'm after.

I'm also open to AMD and such if there's a comparable option that's more cost-effective, the intel i-series was just a bit easier for me to tell the difference between the different tiers (3, 5, 7)

I know it's a bit verbose, so thank you for reading.

Get Windows 8. It's way faster and the learning curve is not too bad at all.

Intel 4690 i5 + Asus H97 if you're not gonna overclock.

Intel 4690k i5 + Asus z97-A if you're gonna overclock.

Of course, the mobo's are entirely up to you, depending on what features you want, but those are pretty popular ones.

As for the HDD, I'd really recommend taking advantage of the low SSD prices and getting a cheap 120 GB Samsung 840 EVO and pairing that with the existing hard drive you have. Installing Windows 8 on this SSD should give you a noticeable performance boost. Then again, the SSD is up to you.

Hey it's Toby from tEdits, the site you're using! :P

Anyway that build is a few months old now, I've been meaning to update it and I will do soon, but it adds up to £497 right now.

You can save about £10 on the motherboard by getting the MSI 970-G43, it's pretty much the same as the ASUS M5A97 R2.0, just cheaper with a few more USB 2.0 ports.

Also if you've got about £20 extra to spend you should go for the FX-8320, it's an 8-core CPU which will give you better performance in CPU intensive games, such as Metro Last Light or Far Cry 3, and in multi-threaded applications like Photoshop or Premier.

I hope this helps! :)

I have a preorder with Amazon US and was hoping to snipe one here in Japan this weekend since it doesn't look good from Amazon. I should have preodered here too, but the original estimation was Oct. 27 and I didn't want to wait... lol.

For online ordering in Japan (Thought I would toss this out there):

1-s.jp shows instock tomorrow (Nov 2 @ 11am)
pc-koubou.jp has a message about honouring preorders first etc.
ark-pc.co.jp removed the listing completely sometime yesterday
amazon.co.jp removed listing a while back, but it was here (https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B005404P9I/) I have it saved in my wish list ha.

Not sure if you guys/gals know of any other sites/stores. I really don't feel like spending the day tomorrow roaming around Tokyo trying to hunt down a single unit. Ugh.

He said he used the PcGamer High end build guide with some changes. He swapped the 1080 to a 1070, the SSD's to a 1TB SSD, he changed the case to a MasterCase Maker 5 Mid-Tower and ordered everything form Amazon

So overall I'm guessing this is his build;

• CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K - $350
  
• GPU: GeForce GTX 1070 - $450
  
• Motherboard: Asus ROG Maximus VIII Hero - $215
  
• Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 - $145
  
• SSD: 1TB Samsung 850 Evo 2.5-inch SATA - $317
  
• CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H100i v2 240mm AIO - $97
  
• Optical: LG UH12NS30 - $52
  
• PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2 80 Plus GOLD - $141
  
• Case: MasterCase Maker 5 Mid-Tower Case - $178
  
  Coming to a grand total of 1945$ add shipping to that and you're looking at pretty close to 2 grand.
  
  This build is fucking retarded though.
  
  First of all, you can actually buy a a goddamn prebuilt with almost the same specs for about 400$ cheaper. That HP is just the first one I found, there are dozens of other prebuilts ranging from about 400-100$ cheaper with no real performance loss.
  
  Yeah it's a prebuilt and has bloatware and all that shit, but in terms of performance it's actually pretty much equal to the authors build.
  
  Second, you could just go for a more reasonable part list.
  
  Swap the 6700k to an i5 6500 with the stock cooler and you'll cut 250$ from the price.
  
  Even an i5-6600k with a hyper 212 evo would cost you about 260$, saving almost 200$
  
  Swap the ridiculous motherboard to something decent for about 100-150$ and you're saving another 100$ right there.
  
  32 gigs of RAM is overkill, you could easily go for 16GB DDR4 2400, and save another 70$
  
  Dump the optical drive, who the hell watches BD movies on a PC anyways? If you really need a DVD drive they're like 20$
  
  Swap the ridiculously high end case to something like Fractal Design R5 and save another 50$. R5 is still an excellent and fairly high end case, you could easily go for a 50-80$ mid-tower and save 100$.
  
  I would also swap the 1TB SSD to a 256gb SSD and a 2TB mechanical drive which would be about 160-200$ saving him another 100$. but I can at least understand that someone wants the simplicity of just having a single drive.
  
  With a few simple changes he could save about 450-650$ without losing any performance whatsoever in gaming, and that's without hunting for cheaper prices from somewhere that's not Amazon.
  
  He said he paid about 100$ extra to buy everything from Amazon, so with an updated parts list and using PCpartpicker the price drops down to 1171$ so about 770$ cheaper than the authors build and with no real performance loss.

I built my rig for CEMU. Start with a FX4300 oc@4.8GHz (before multi core recompiler comes out)

I was playing Dolphin & MAME32 and CEMU (BOTW > 40FPS @ 900p) with a GTX 950.

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Bought few months ago a FX4600 oc @4.6GHz and upgrade to a GTX970.

Most games run at fullspeed (MK8...), BOTW @2K 45 static FPS (fullsync@GXDrawDone enabled) see results here.

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Cemu needs 6 cores to run in Triple mode recompiler correctly (i know that many post talk about 5 cores but i hardly think that is 6 : 3 CPU, 1 GPU, 1 audio, 1 controller emulation ? ). So if you go for an Intel CPU, you'll need at least an i7. And mostly, take a K serie (not locked) to overclock it !

Otherwise even with a good i7, you'll struggle to reach my current rig performances ! (with a same GPU)

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FX4600 : 60$ brand new and good CPU cooler for example ARTIC A32 (>250W TDP, fx6300 is 95W TDP) to reach 4.5GHz oc without any issue.

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For The GPU, i think a 970 is the great deal (> 1050ti) and cheapest in used condition.

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What ever your choice will be, take care of bottleknecking, make simulations here : http://thebottlenecker.com/

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I'm hoping editing computer build questions are allowed?

Im currently building an editing computer and had some questions.

Ive been editing my gopro footage on an old power mac g5 with imovie09 and its time for an upgrade. Im going to be filming with a gopro and uploading to youtube. The computer wont be used for anything else.

This is my first build. I followed this workflow found in the side bar of /r/gopro and had the items on my amazon wish list.my family got together and bought me a bunch of stuff for my birthday!!!




|Type |Item
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Motherboard| ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155|
Memory| Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600|
Storage| Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive|
Case|NZXT Source 210 Elite White ATX Mid Tower|
Power Supply|OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V|

I still need a processor Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor

and a EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card as well as editing software. Im familiar with final cut but might try out some other editing programs and see what I think of them.

My questions are:

1.Will a specific editing program go better with this setup than another program?

2. Is this a good monitor? Im assuming if im just editing/uploading footage to the internet I dont really need a super expensive monitor?

3. What should I used for wireless internet? is the Rosewill 54Mbps Wireless Adapter Card (RNX-G300LX) any good?

4. Speakers? I just need something simple

5. Operating system? Microsoft Windows 8.1?

6. V7 KC0A2-4L3P Keyboard?

7. Optical mouse?

Am I missing anything?

Thanks in advance for your help. Cant wait to get the rest of the parts and start editing on a decent computer!

Building a PC (obviously) and getting some mixed results in regards to two different CPU's. I'd like opinions on which ones to choose from.

The Intel Boxed Core I5-6600K was my original choice, but I've had some people try to convince me to get AMD FD6300WMHKBOX FX-6300 instead. Obviously there's a big price difference between these two CPU's, but I'm hearing a lot of "intel marks up their prices way too much" and "the amd can do everything intel will do and has two more cores anyway" and other stuff like that which, to me, just sounds like AMD fanboyism trying to discredit the other CPU, but I also admit I don't actually know that much and that they could be right. Also, the fact that there's multiple of them.

So I'd like some input from you guys!

tl;dr: Intel Boxed Core I5-6600K or AMD FD6300WMHKBOX FX-6300

you need a 1080ti at least to get stream quality ark

I have a devil's canyon so processing power I'm not lacking anything much, but it will be better if you can get a 8700/8700k that should be better.

with that unless your mobo allows you're gonna buy a new one. I recommend those long lasting ones that doesn't necessarily say "GAMING". I'm not going to upgrade my pc anytime soon so the recommendation for this could be a little off

get 16gb of ram at least. the more the merrier.

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here are some links

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07598VZR8/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Intel-B250-Motherboard-PC/dp/B01N4LCX2D/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1540980819&sr=1-3&keywords=lga+1151

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Ryzen 5 3600 + Asrock b450 steel legend is a good combo. It also has a micro atx version if you’d like smaller form factor.
You can save a bit extra by going with asrock b450m pro4 although there is a chance that it won’t be compatible with 3rd gen ryzen out of the box (look for the sticker). In that case you can email amd and they’ll lend you an upgrade kit for free.
If you can spare an extra $10-20 MSI b450 tomahawk max is a very good board and well worth it IMO. No smaller form factor tho.

> We cant tell you how well a certain computer does on a certain game, honestly.

Ah, alright. And my budget would probably be $750 tops. Not including monitor, keyboard, windows, etc. Just the tower and everything inside.

Here's what I've been looking into so far:

• Processor - AMD FX-8320 - $150
  
  
• GPU - Gigabyte R9 270 GDDR5-2GB - $200... I've also been looking into Radeon HD 7950 ~$230
  
  
• Motherboard - ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 - $84
  
  
• RAM - 8gb - $55
  
  
• Storage - 1TB - $60
  
  
• Case - Here - $50
  
  
• Power - Here - $60
  
  Let me know if I forgot something. Also, if something isn't compatible or I did something stupid, let me know that as well, please. Suggestions/improvements are very much welcome.

>So Amazon shouldn't be able to store your IP along with the searches (unless this info is incorrect, and it could well be).

See the eff statement linked above. While Canonical does act as a middleman, its still possible for amazon to track users (at least the initial version that was analyzed, though I've seen no evidence to say that this has been fixed). You search locally, data is sent to Canonical. Canonical asks Amazon for a new search query each time, and Amazon replies to Canonical with say 20 relevant ads. Canonical sends back to you as URLs to amazon.com to include in unity, and these images can work identically to web bugs. The key point is the product images are fetched from amazon's servers from your IP address right after you searched for the term. Amazon could easily give a unique combination of ads or add a useless query parameter to the image fetches or just have 100 symlinks to each image and ensure every search term gets a unique fingerprint collection of image links. And before you think this is getting paranoid, amazon does this sort of tracking all the time.

If I copy a URL:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SZ0E1K/ref=s0_aaaaa_aa_a000_a0_a0?pf_rd_m=AAAAAAAAA0AAA&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0A00AAAA00AA00AAA00A&pf_rd_t=000&pf_rd_p=0000000000&pf_rd_i=000000

the only part that's relevant to get to the product is
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SZ0E1K . The rest is to track how I got to that link (and I tried to anonymize the rest by changing everything to A and 0).

Its a trivial task for amazon to correlate your search query to your IP address and to advertise to you best (e.g., correlate with your amazon account) they will likely do that (and this assumes amazon never received the IP address in the first place which is not clear).

Furthermore, the legal notice allows third parties (amazon) to store your IP and search query.

I classify any adware that monitors you as a subset of spyware. Wouldn't call it malicious or illegal or malware, and agree its relatively easy to uninstall.

I guess if the motherboard doesn't work well with the processor/RAM, I'd have to say that I'm not set on that particular MOBO. Is it a solid gaming motherboard?

If I stick with that motherboard, what would be a better processor/RAM pairing? I'd like at least 16GB of memory to start with.

Assuming I save money, what would a better GPU be?

Edit: would this processor work? How about this RAM?

Going to incorporate some of your suggestions into the original post table. Hopefully to develop this.

Well, technically it's a $1056 build and you get some money back after mailing it in and waiting months :S So it's not exactly a fair competition - if my system is allowed the same rule (spending 1060$ upfront) then it beats yours:

|Part type|Name|URL|Price|
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|motherboard|ASRock B450 Pro4|https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157841|88.15|
|processor|AMD Ryzen 5 2600|https://www.amazon.com/-/dp/B07B41WS48/?tag=envybits-20|164.99|
|memory|Team Vulcan 32GB 3000MHz CL16|https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313886|159.99|
|video_card|Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Windforce 8GB|https://www.amazon.com/-/dp/B07JBTS8HR/?tag=envybits-20|479.99|
|drive|ADATA XPG SX8200 480GB M.2-2280 SSD|https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIADF17442135|84.99|
|power_supply|EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold|https://www.amazon.com/-/dp/B01LWTS2UL/?tag=envybits-20|79.99|
|total|-|-|1058.10|

I mean sure - you would still need to get a case but you could pick that up and decrease amount of RAM to 16GB. But you do get a better SSD and a PSU in this variant.

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I am not saying this system is perfect or whatever mind you. Just that while it does have hiccups it can build fairly good systems too if you check through other options you are given by it upfront so calling it "random parts" is kinda uncalled for.

Given the fact that you use your PC for many purposes, AMD Ryzen's multitasking capacbilities might come in handy.

This is especially true since it seems from your post that you'll be running Plex in the background while doing something else. Being able to have a few cores dedicated to it while not affecting your workload would surely be beneficial.

If you're willing to wait one week, Ryzen 2 should be out by then. Otherwise, I'd look into the R7 1700. FYI, its price went down to 300$ the other day.

If you want to go intel, I'd go 8700K. Given your workloads, you'll benefit from having more cores/threads.

would it be wise to take advantage of This deal on a 8320? obviously i'd need to change my motherboard. I know amd gets a lot of flak but for $99 it seems pretty good considering there arent many i5 processors on sale. I'd be changing the case to a thermaltake core v21

Edit: So like This (but it seems too cheap)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor | $99.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | ASRock 970M PRO3 Micro ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard | $36.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $29.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $59.99 @ B&H
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $39.10 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card | PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card | $159.99 @ Newegg
Case | Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $39.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $34.99 @ NCIX US
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $591.03
| Mail-in rebates | -$90.00
| Total | $501.03
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-01 00:18 EST-0500 |

Not a bad deal. The Ryzen R5-2600 paired with a cheap B450 is probably a smarter way to go. The 2600 is on par gaming wise to the 9400f (especially overclocked) and quite a bit further ahead in in productivity. Also, you'll have an easy upgrade path to Zen 2/3 if/when needed where the 9400f is in a dying socket leaving you in a weird position of having to buy expensive second hand I7's for an upgrade. The Ryzen's extra 6 threads already help now with productivity and will likely help more in gaming long term.

Only $25.00 more..

$184.99 at Amazon.ca

https://www.amazon.ca/AMD-YD2600BBAFBOX-Processeur-RYZEN5-Socket/dp/B07B41WS48

Okay I like those choices I'll check out the mobo
But the processor is this what you were referring to? I like it, seems nice and cheap. Thanks for all the help by the way. I greatly appreciate this.

Bruh cheapest 1080 in the US is $470 that too on Amazon without sale, going by the ₹65 for a dollar gives about 42% markup, the model you mentioned is about $510 which is about 32% markup. Also 43k is the absolute lowest the price goes here whereas they have sales dropping the prices very low.

Also Ryzen currently is at 25%-35%markup depending on the model(lowest was 1700x at 24%).
The Titan Xp is at about 67% markup (didn't check the year so correct me if I'm wrong)
And also the cheapest 1080 is the mini one, which has clock speed a few mghz higher than fe so if I want something better like more cooling or higher clock speeds and not just the bare minimum I have to shill out 60k to 70k for the Asus ones or even the fe whereas the same card is sold around $550 at newegg which comes with forhonor or ghost recall wildlands free (both worth $60) so while that guy was wrong about the 100% markup you were also being disingenuous with that 43k figure and 18% markup .

Edit - source for prices

[cheapest 1080] (https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814126110R)

[1080 mini @$530 with free AAA game] (https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814500414)

Ryzen 1700

ryzen 1700x

[1080 founders edition US with free game] (https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814487243) vs [1080 FE in your link] (https://www.mdcomputers.in/index.php?route=product/product&path=86&product_id=4594)

Just for the lulz [evga gtx Titan Z india] ( https://www.amazon.in/dp/B00JZ4SN4C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JDq.yb95M47JH
) vs [evga gtx Titan Z US] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KU2CVJ6/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1492977634&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Evga+gtx+Titan+z&dpPl=1&dpID=51d8u7bQA8L&ref=plSrch)

Edit 2- in the link you provided the 1080 mini is out of stock so the next cheapest one is 44.5k one which is currently at newegg for $470 giving a 47% markup.

you know so far its been great i guess, the improvement on arma 3 is through the roof but the improvement in fps in planetside isnt as high as i thought it might be, but i did some research and i feel that fps issues are just something that will forever plague a game with a possible 400 man battle going on, even with an intel cpu, i doubt theyre doing much better than 25-30 fps in huge battles. my new cpu has gotten down to 20 and below in massive battles but mostly its doing great and hitting my gpu (radeon 7770) alot at about 50-60. looking back i dont regret it, because i did it myself, and it was rather simple to swap just the cpu, where as a whole motherboard would be quite extensive i imagine and would probably need some help, and hopefully it would all be compatible. i doubled my score on 3dmark 11 to 6352 for cpu score, now i feel i need to upgrade my gpu :p,

also the 8350 just dropped 15 bucks to $179

Well, I had been looking into graphics cards all morning and the Nvidia gtx970 keeps coming out with great recommendations. Pricey though for me.

And then appears that my CPU might be a bit of a bottleneck stepping up to the latest and greatest cards.

Currently looking at the following

CPU

Motherboard

[GPU]
(http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-259-MS&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1010)


And then hoping to sell my current trio for maybe €200 might help what appears to be nearly a €600 spend ( €200 over budget)

Well, what are you working with? I mean what is the model of the computer you have now? Swaps into another case with a new PSU aren't always hard. Sometimes you can get a non standard board in an SFF, other times you can get a nice gem in the rough. The Dell Inspiron 660s comes to mind as an SFF type computer with lots of potential. I've done swaps on HP Media Center PC's as well. Gimme a better idea of what you have and let's weigh some options. If you'd like suggestions for a completely new system that won't break the bank, here's this one:

Phreakwar PC Parts List

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor | $117.68 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $72.98 @ Amazon
Memory | Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage | ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $39.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | MSI GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card | $198.99 @ B&H
Case | Cougar MX330-G ATX Mid Tower Case | $46.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Raidmax Scorpio 535 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $49.99 @ Amazon
| Total | $586.60
| Generated by Phreakwar PC Custom Builds |

I don't want to hijack your thread, but if someone can offer some input on my situation as well, that would be awesome. Was just thinking of making a similar thread but I hate spamming D: Hope you don't mind if I post in here to get some possible advice?

My CPU cannot handle me running multiple instances of OBS. I need one instance for game footage/sound only, another instance of OBS or just my webcam software to record my face, then another instance of OBS to slap the game footage and webcam together. I want to do it all separately so when I edit for YouTube it looks 1000% better than if I just use the recording from Twitch with everything smooshed together.

Any thoughts on what CPU would be good that I can get for around $150, $200 at most. I was suggested this CPU by a buddy and this motherboard. Anyone think they will be good enough?

OBS went crazy when I had two instances open, one of my webcam, the other of game footage. I was just PREVIEWING it and it was like WOAH THERE STAHP and lagged like crazy. Couldn't even imagine how it would have reacted had I actually hit the record button D:

Also, I'm using amazon to purchase all these items mostly because It's easier for me to use and I have free shipping with Prime. I'm open to any suggestions on what to get or what not to get.

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8320FRHKBOX-FX-8320-8-Core-Black/dp/B009O7YU56/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1411659433&sr=1-1&keywords=cpu CPU $140


http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_img_y Fan $29


http://www.amazon.com/WD-Blue-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B0088PUEPK/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_img_z HDD $58


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Bronze-Certified-Supply/dp/B008RJZQSW/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1411659247&sr=1-2&keywords=700w+psu PSU $70


http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperClocked-Dual-Link-Graphics-02G-P4-2765-KR/dp/B00DHW4HXY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1411659125&sr=1-1&keywords=graphics+card Graphics Card $230


http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006WAGGUK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1411658083&sr=8-3&keywords=ram+8gb
RAM $75


http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Motherboard-Motherboards-970A-G46/dp/B0073JYZ48/ref=psdc9_t1_B009FC3YJ8_B0073JYZ48 Motherboard $75


http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Elite-431-Plus/dp/B005ZCTJ9Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1411578162&sr=8-1&keywords=coolermaster+mid+tower+4+usb Tower Case $59

Total:$736
EDIT: Also, if you feel there's a slightly more expensive product that's better quality than one that I have listed, that would also be appreciated.

From what I can see on Amazon.it you can get something like:
Intel i5 6500: 209€ https://www.amazon.it/Intel-Processore-i5-6500-Turbo-Socket/dp/B010T6CWI2/ref=lp_460126031_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1478200435&sr=1-2

MSI H170 board: 120€ : https://www.amazon.it/MSI-H170-Gaming-M3-Scheda/dp/B014YN672S/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1478200255&sr=1-5&keywords=intel+i5+6500

Samsung 750 EVO 500 GB: 124€ https://www.amazon.it/Samsung-MZ-750500BW-500GB-Sata3-Nero/dp/B01G844L88/ref=lp_460114031_1_9?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1478200381&sr=1-9

And then whatever set of 16 gig RAM and you'll be just around the 500€ mark. Hope that helps :)

Looks like your friend was right ^^

I haven't used an AMD since Thunderbird, so unfortunately I can't say for sure.

I use a Mini ATX case for my server, so I bought this cpu which is similar to what I've used in the past (not for 4k, though, since that's just now starting to come around) and has worked very well for me. My guess, and some may differ, is that any i7 is going to clobber whatever you do.

Honestly your best best is to go to PC Part Picker because it will let you plug in what you already have and then help you find compatible hardware.

You can build a pretty decent rig with $1200... But it depends on what type of work you'd need to be doing on your laptop.

If you just need something for word processing, get the Asus X205TA or HP Stream 11, and then build a rig with:

• Gigabyte GTX 970
  
  
• Intel i5-4690K
  
  
• Asus Z97 Mobo
  
  
• Kingston HyperX 8GB kit
  
  
• WD 1TB 7200RPM HDD
  
  
• Corsair CX600M PSU
  
  
• Corsair 230T Mid-tower
  
  
• LG DVD-Rom
  
  That should put you around your price point and getting the best of both worlds. That machine WILL run WoW on ultra, and it'll leave you with a small laptop with great battery life to take to classes and take notes on.
  

So, a 980Ti would perform better then a 2x970 SLI setup?

Couldn't find the "K" version from the 4590 but I did found the 4690K. 40€ more, is it worth it?

The 167mm Hyper 212 Evo would be a nice fit then?



Edit: I saw PCMasterRace Builds and the "End-All" says a R9 380 8GB would be a recommended. I'm I missing something? Since I do know that AMD is a better bang for your buck but I saw some Benchmarks and the R9 seems to be under the NVidia equivalents (mainly I guess to how the current market is made)

Changed the cooler. New one uses less power, runs quiter and has adjustable fan speed. Put everything except the case in via Amazon. MUCH easier when you get it all in one delivery. Also you will need some Thermal Paste

The PSU will be fine for your question below.

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor | £177.91 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler | Thermaltake Water 3.0 Performer C + LNC 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | £49.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard | MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | £89.58 @ Amazon UK
Memory | Kingston HyperX Fury White 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory | £63.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | £115.90 @ Amazon UK
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | £54.00 @ Amazon UK
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card | £544.98 @ Amazon UK
Case | NZXT H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case | £88.98 @ Aria PC
Power Supply | EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | £90.11 @ Amazon UK
Monitor | Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q 144Hz 27.0" Monitor | £530.88 @ Amazon UK
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | £1806.32

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B015VPX2EO/?tag=pcp0f-21

It says free delivery in the UK right here. Add it to your original wish list/cart too. Your build looks good so far.

Maybe you could change the Monitor to the one I suggested as it'll be bigger with the 24'' and it has pretty good reviews.

Also, try to look for 1x8GB, not 2x4GB. Your motherboard only has 2 RAM slots, so if you want to upgrade in the future, you'll need to throw out your 2x4GB. If you get 1x8GB there will be no problem. If you do not plan on upgrading any time soon, just go with 2x4GB as RAM usually runs better in Dual Channel.

>I currently have the Intel Core i7 950 3.07GHz (Bloomfield) (https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-950-Socket-LGA1366-Processor/dp/B002A6G3V2)

I did bit of digging and it seems that you're right, even though Lightroom is capable of using multiple cores, it seems that it's not quite optimized properly.
I also have to do video editing, but not as much as stills.

This i7-6700 (https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Unlocked-Skylake-Processor-BX80662I76700K/dp/B012M8LXQW) looks like the best option at the moment. An overclocking mobo seems appealing as well, but I would need to upgrade my cooling system as well.

my computer is currently dying (i think) but it's ok i was planning on updating the cup and stuff but if anyone has some advice i'd appreciate it, currently going to go from a phenom II to an i7 and upgrading my tiny ssd to a 500gb because i'm pretty sure half of my issues are coming from low disk space.

but yeah advice and stuff is welcome as i struggle to find stuff to delete from my computer ;=;

If you want strong single-core performance then yes, at the moment at least Intel is the team to go for.

For that budget I would consider the following:

Intel i3-6320 LG 1511 Skylake Processor (not sure why it says Pentium in the item title, ah well!): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Pentium-Dual-Core-i3-6320-Processor/dp/B015VPX48I/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1474456530&sr=8-4&keywords=skylake+i3

And for a MoBo maybe this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-B150M-DS3H-DDR3-GA-B150M-DS3H-Motherboard/dp/B015XSG8GS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1474456703&sr=8-4&keywords=b150+motherboard

NOTE: The MoBo is DDR3 not DDR4, so will need the appropriate RAM. Possibly look in to sticking down the extra £20 needed to get a DDR4 board or a H170 chipset? These will be your choices :) Plus, if you can extend your budget by an extra £30 it would definitely be worth going for an i5-6500, the cost-to-power ratio on that CPU is insane compared to what else is out there https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Core-Skylake-Processor-i5-6500/dp/B010T6CWI2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474456925&sr=8-1&keywords=skylake+i5

Also, I personally haven't used either of these components, just wanted to show it can be achieved for the price so make sure you check out plenty of reviews!

Posted yesterday but got no response, sorry for these sorta noob questions.

First time upgrading PC and I'm not quite to grips with all the details of these things.

I was wondering if this motherboard or would be compatible with my GTX 750Ti? Also would you recommend the previous motherboard or this one
which is also from Gigabyte like my GPU.

Finally, would this i5-4460 be an improvement over my current rather aged i7-2600? As far as I can understand it would be compatible with either of those motherboards but would it be worth buying over keeping my current i7?

Thanks

good way to save money if you won't be overclocking and want the best stock chip, anyone who isn't aware though, the 1700 is the same chip/silicon as the 1800x , if you get lucky on the silicon you could overclock a 1700 to the same 4.0 Ghz that the others can hit and save money. ( some chips have gone higher, but most cant go beyond 4.0 )

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B06WP5YCX6/?tag=pcp0f-20
$414 dollars plus taxes

You can easily google a guide to overclock ryzen or get help in reddit

Hey man, you're probably going to want to go with a G3258. It's a hair under 4000 passmark but I have the same CPU and it works fine. Those things are great overclockers, so it's definitely going to fit your needs. Mobo doesn't really matter. Find something with the correct socket, right number of SATA ports, right form factor and you're good to go. This is what I used for reference. RAM isn't too big of a deal, either. Cheapest one that'll fit the build. 4GB would be plenty but because I had a stick lying around, I'm using 8GB.

I don't know the exact power draw of mine but it's always on and I don't notice it.

Awesome! Ok so I have decided that if I want a pc that’s better than the prebuilt one that I already have, I’m going to have to spend more. Therefore I have raised my budget to the $350 to $400 range. I have also assembled a list of parts that I would like to run by you because you seem like you know what you are doing.

APU: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Radeon-Graphics/dp/B079D8FD28

MoBo: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0722FDQDF/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1522789980&sr=1-4&refinements=p_n_condition-type%3A6461716011%2Cp_72%3A2661618011&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=GIGABYTE&dpPl=1&dpID=51WYBQTbBAL&ref=plSrch

PSU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071JZBPST/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1522790090&sr=1-8&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6906983011%7C6906984011&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=power+supply&dpPl=1&dpID=513ebZ%2B8FEL&ref=plSrch

Memory: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005T63BJM/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1522790271&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=8gb+ram&dpPl=1&dpID=51d-RxwZ0PL&ref=plSrch

Hard Drive: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B013HNYV9W/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1522790376&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=wd+blue+500gb&dpPl=1&dpID=51URXFlzPaL&ref=plSrch

Case: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IT0TDY6/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1522790445&sr=8-2-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=pc%2Bcase&psc=1&th=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CO8TBOW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DE

Courtesy of r/buildapcsales

The reason you want an i5 even if you never hit the threshold is well, best bang for the buck like Coogle said.

You could always go AMD, with like an 8350 or 6300.

If I were you, I'd get the i5, as it can do massive Reason projects and another thing or two as well.

Sure!

So, below are my system specs. The process is hugely CPU bound, so if you can get something better, I would. I'm thinking about upgrading to a dual-socket 16 core Xeon in a few months.

For software I use Windows Media Center (in 8.1). The scheduling manager is probably a 3.5/5, it's all there it's just a pain to use sometimes because it was designed to be navigated with a remote so you have to click a lot for some things. The shows come in WTV format, which I assume is an AVI-like container because the files are gigantic. The program MCE Buddy takes those files and can generate MP4/MKV with .NFO files auto-magically with filters and naming conventions. It's basically a scheduling manager wrapped around ffmpeg/handbrake.

To strip commercials it uses a program called comskip which does a decent job out of the box, but you can spend some time fine tuning it (I spent 5-6 hours one saturday to just get SLIGHTLY better precision on the commercials, I've just started accepting a few slips).

For the last step I wrote some software I called torrentula that extracts screens and crawls for additional meta-data before wrapping it all up in a RAR/ZIP/TORRENT file. It's not ready for other people yet, but I can throw it on github if you wanna give it a try....it's just really raw still. Shameless plug to my twitch stream where I do walk throughs a couple times a week for a few hours on how I program these tools.

Storage can be whatever, I just have simple volumes in Windows.

For Library management I've surrendered to the Plex machine. It's not the best, but it's good enough and works without much configuration. Too resource intensive for me though.

• i5 4690k @ 4.5 Ghz
  
• 8 GB G. Skill 2133 DDR3
  
• ASRock B85M-ITX LGA 1150
  
• 24 TB of WD Storage (3, 4 and 5's)
  
• Cooler Master HAF Stacker 915F
  
• CORSAIR Hydro Series H50 120mm Quiet Edition
  
• 3 x 120mm Rosewell 75 CFM case fans
  
• SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME 3-Tuner
  
• SiliconDust HDHomeRun DUAL 2-OTA Tuner

If you want a constant 144fps to match your 144hz monitor. I recommend going with a

RTX 2070 (Gpu)

i7 8700k (Cpu)

Be quiet dark rock 4 (Cpu cooler)

Gigabyte z390 Gaming X (Motherboard)

At this point it’s penny pinching. Things like storage and the case. But since you didn’t mention a budget, im optimizing for gaming.

Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250g (m.2 NVME ssd)

Mushkin Source 500g Sata 3 (Reg SSD)

Seagate Barracuda 1tb (HDD)

NZXT H500 (Case)

The reason for 3 storage devices is that the HDD is for larger games. The m.2 ssd is for smaller games. Then the standard ssd is for Windows.

Links for everything are below.

RTX 2070 ($479.99)

i7 8700k ($363.18)

Gigabyte z390 Gaming X ($139.99)

Nvme M.2 SSD ($69.99)

SSD ($54.99)

HDD ($47.99)

Case ($69.99)

Cpu Cooler ($74.90)

All this totals out to: $1301.02 USD.

Obviously this is all from amazon. I’m an amazon boy. But you can search Newegg for these same products and see if they’re any cheaper, to save even more $.

​

Edit: Added Prices next to links, added link to Newegg.

Hoping for a bit of quick advice. Building my first gaming PC - mostly for 1080p @ 60Hz but hoping to future-proof - or at least reduce big spends in the near future

Which is better?

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Processor (6C/12T, 35MB Cache, 4.2 GHz Max Boost) & MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Motherboard 'mATX, AM4, DDR4, LAN, USB 3.2 Gen2, TYPE-C, M.2, Mystic Light Sync, HDMI, DisplayPort, AMD RYZEN 1st, 2nd and 3rd Gen Ready' (£296)

or

ASUS TUF AMD B450 PRO GAMING Durable ATX Motherboard + AMD RYZEN 7 2700X Processor (£288)

Thanks!

Any suggestions for a fairly portable desktop case? My work requires me to move to a different town pretty much every single year for the next few years. So ideally, I'm looking for a pc case that can be easily carried, eg has handles or has a carry-friendly form-factor, and isn't too big.

Just to make sure it can house its components, here are the parts I've picked:

1. EVGA 600W PSU
   
   
2. Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1060
   
   
3. Intel Core Skylake Processor i5-6500
   
   
4. Gigabyte H110M-S2H Motherboard (Socket 1151, H110 Express, DDR4, S-ATA 600, Micro ATX)
   
   Thanks!

There’s a sale on Amazon right now that has the 3600x at literally $7 more than the 3600. It is a steal, should definitely add the 3600x to your list.

3600: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3600-12-Thread-Processor/dp/B07STGGQ18

3600x: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3600X-12-Thread-Processor/dp/B07SQBFN2D

Otherwise great build. Just any old 144hz low latency monitor should suit you good, I think the monitor you chose will probably do you fine.

And I’m pretty sure you don’t need any special thermal paste.

Type | Item | Price | Store

--|:--|--:|:--:
CPU | Intel i7 - 4690k | $230 | Amazon
CPU Cooler | Corsair H80i | $88 | Newegg
CPU Cooler Fans | Corsair AF120 | $29 | Newegg
Motherboard | ASUS Z97-A | $140 | Newegg
RAM | Corsair Vengeance Pro - 2x4GB | $93 | Newegg
GPU | EVGA GTX 970 | $330 | Newegg
SSD | 250GB 840 EVO | $129 | Amazon
HDD | WD Red 1TB | $70 | Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair CX600M | $65 | Amazon
Case | Thermaltake R31 | $80 | Newegg
Monitor | DELL 23" 8ms | $200 | Newegg
Windows | Windows 8.1 | $100 | Newegg
Keyboard | Logitech G710 | $115 | Newegg
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| | Total w/ Shipping: | $1690 |


 


Comments:


1. You can always add in more RAM later. You probably won't use more than 8GB though.
2. I like DELL monitors but you can always look for another cheaper one. The DELL is an IPS so it looks pretty.
3. The H80i is really there only if you're looking at overclocking. Otherwise, it's overkill for stock settings.
4. The Windows 8.1 license really brings the price up. If you can find it anywhere for cheaper or you have your own license, that'll help you spending considerably.
5. If you don't necessarily like the case, there are plenty of others out there. I'm not sure what type of case you like so I figured I'd go with the one you mentioned.

Both are fine, I believe the 6600k is like 10$ more expensive, for the extra .3GHz. If he doesnt plan on OC'ing now, but may in the future, its probably worth spending the extra money. Bonus: Explain it to him so he can decide to learn for himself =D

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Skylake-Desktop-Processor-BX80662I56500/dp/B010T6CWI2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480695841&sr=8-1&keywords=cpu+i5+6500

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Skylake-Desktop-Processor-BX80662I56600K/dp/B012M8M7TY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480695852&sr=8-1&keywords=cpu+i5+6600k

It sounds like it would be worth the upgrade. More games are being optimized for more cores and it really starts to make a difference with newer titles.

Newegg Reviews Search

1. Go here:
   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284&cm_re=8350-_-19-113-284-_-Product
   
   
2. Click reviews
   
3. Type 975 in the keyword box and click GO
   
4. Read reviews
   
   Amazon Reviews Search
   
   
5. http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8350FRHKBOX-FX-8350-FX-Series-Edition/product-reviews/B009O7YUF6/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_summary?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=byRankDescending
   
6. On the right side type 975 in the "Search Customer Reviews" box.
   
7. Click "read more" on the individual review results.
   
   Amazon only has 1 review for 975 to 8350. Newegg has 4. I really hope in the future these reviews would have a field for previous hardware to help gauge where they were coming from.

A VR build doesn't have to be stupid expensive anymore. Just keep in mind that no matter what you buy is going to replaced with bigger and better parts in a year or two. It's just how pc building works. Doesn't mean what you build will become shitty though. I'm a big fan of setting myself a budget and staying well below it. I prefer to keep my extra money in my pocket, but that's just me. I honestly think a 1080 or 1080TI is overkill unless you want to do some 4k gaming, but then that requires a 4k monitor. Not worth it if you're building a VR rig. Just my opinion.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor | $339.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $107.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $109.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $164.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $129.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $42.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card | $499.99 @ Amazon
Case | Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case | $34.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $69.99 @ Amazon
Monitor | Asus - VG278Q 27.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor | $294.50 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1795.21
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-21 18:50 EDT-0400 |

I would say the R5 2600 would probably be the best to pair with the RX 570. It is pretty cheap at $118 and will easily handle anything you throw at it with an upgrade path to the 3rd and unreleased 4th gen Ryzen CPUs due to them all being on the AM4 platform. The R5 3600 would be the next step up at $177 but I wouldn't go higher than that unless you need the extra cores from a R7 3700x or R9 3900x/3950x for productivity reasons and not gaming since an OCed 3600 will perform almost the same as the R7/R9 CPUs.

Benchmark that shows both R5 3600 and R5 2600 (which can OC to 3600x and 2600x levels easily)

https://www.techspot.com/review/1871-amd-ryzen-3600/

Benchmark saying get a R5 3600 for any GPU under $1000 and showing similar performance to the R9 3900x. Turning on PBO and XFR2 will make the 3900x and 3600 just about equal. Grabbing some decent Micron E-Die based ram ($70-75 for 16GB) and overclock to 3733CL16 will probably add a 2-3fps over the 3200CL14 used in the review below although the 3200CL14 (samsung B-die based) will overclock better than the E-die but for $50 more but that isn't worth it to me.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1897-ryzen-5-ryzen-9-core-i9-gaming-scaling/

R5 2600

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07B41WS48

MY POST GOT REMOVED FOR AN EBAY LINK....here is the screenshot instead of the link

https://i.imgur.com/lPX9OsC.png


ebay price of R5 3600 with code PDEALS4U

https://i.imgur.com/oO2vfvY.png

It is hard to recommend anything on the Intel side unless you have a very high end card and are looking at pure gaming only where the i7 9700k or i9 9900k will perform a little better than the AMD Ryzen counterparts.

Wrote all this out for a friend and thought i would share. Seemed a shame to waste all that formatting.


MOBO: Asus M5A97 £69.49

CPU: AMD FX 6300 £86.95 (6-cores)

GPU: HD Radeon 7870 £140(This is a v good price for the card)

PSU: Corsair VX550 £45.70 (Never go cheap on PSU)

RAM: G-skill Ripjaw 2x4GB £55.98

Total: £398.09


You could buy a single 4Gb DIMM for cheaper to save money and buy another later.

I'm assuming you have a case you can use, any old thing is fine (and much cheaper).

Alternatively to save some money on the delivery costs you could buy this lot from Scan.co.uk:


4GB Corsair DDR3 Vengeance Jet Blac 1 £35.28

Asus M5A97 R2.0, AMD 970, S AM3+, D 1 £69.56

2GB MSI Radeon HD 7870 Overclocked, 1 £150.94

AMD FX 6300 Black Edition, Vishera, 1 £88.36

650W Aerocool Templarius Imperator 1 £46.38

----------------------------------------------------------
Net Total £322.79
Carriage £9.15
Scansure £12.19
Total £413.69

This includes an overclocked GPU and Single 4gb DIMM (Ram stick). It also has insurance for £10 that replaces any parts you may damage on building. The graphics card comes with AMD Silver reward, 2 free games from this list.

Sorry about the lack of info, haha. I just assumed you would be able to read my mind!

Erm, I'd love it if I could spend £200 but if say spending £300-350 will make a massive difference (which I assume it will), I don't mind doing that.

I enjoy all games really, I'll be most happy if it can run Total War games decently enough and PUBG because I've just bought that and it's emotional having a low FPS in gun fights.

I've been looking myself and just kind of going off what I've seen popping up most because I'm not gonna lie, the actual technical jargon is like Egyptian hieroglyphics to me :-)

How much better is:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Z97-KILLER-3-1-Fatal1ty-Express/dp/B00VMCL34W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493767194&sr=8-1&keywords=z97+express

and

http://www.pcupgrade.co.uk/productdetails.asp?productid=14960&categoryid=294

when compared to:


http://www.ebuyer.com/664579-exdisplay-msi-970-gaming-socket-am3-7-1-channel-hd-audio-atx-motherboard-ebr1-970-gaming?mkwid=sWA3N2WiH_dc&pcrid=51630194939&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=CjwKEAjw3KDIBRCz0KvZlJ7k4TgSJABDqOK7bkTFzSnwN_RutFk9ujEzG32qBV-caTxwkJ91bdInzBoCUeDw_wcB

and

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Black-Vishera-Clock-Turbo-x/dp/B009O7YUF6

If you have the time, do you know of a case that would fit them in? I've currently got:

Zalman Z11 Plus High Performance Mid Tower Case

Sorry for the late reply and asking so much :-)

It's an AMD one less powerful than an i5 and on Win 7 (this processor: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009O7YU56/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) . As I said a see a lot of people with the issue. I've refunded the game now but I hope one day I can go back to it! I feel as though it was something to do with some aspect of my graphics cards software but not sure what. The processor is certainly showing its age now. :)

> Asus MG279Q 27" 1440p 144Hz IPS https://www.amazon.com/27-inch-FreeSync-Response-DisplayPort-MG279Q/dp/B00ZOO348C/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Asus+MG279Q&qid=1568889772&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Dell P4317Q 43" 60Hz 4K IPS https://www.amazon.com/Dell-P4317Q-42-5-16-Microfiber/dp/B07RBBQBR6/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Dell+P4317Q&qid=1568889797&s=gateway&sr=8-2
NZXT S340 Elite Black/Blue (can't find on amazon anymore. this would be the follower https://www.amazon.com/Nzxt-H510-Elite-Dual-Tempered-Water-Cooling/dp/B07C3SQPBB/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=nzxt%2Bh510%2Belite&qid=1568889894&s=gateway&sr=8-1&th=1 )
Asus ROG STRIX B350-F Gaming https://www.amazon.com/ROG-B350-F-GAMING-DisplayPort-Motherboard/dp/B071SGQP1Q/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=Asus+ROG+STRIX+B350-F+Gaming&qid=1568889978&s=gateway&sr=8-4
Ryzen R7 1700 @3.8GHz https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Cooler-YD1700BBAEBOX/dp/B06WP5YCX6/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Ryzen+R7+1700&qid=1568889999&s=gateway&sr=8-2
MSI GeForce RTX 2080 DUKE 8G OC https://www.amazon.com/MSI-RTX-2080-DUKE-8G/dp/B07GHXMMYF/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=MSI+GeForce+RTX+2080+DUKE+8G&qid=1568890061&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3000MHz CL15 https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Corsair+Vengeance+LPX+2x8GB+3000MHz+CL15&qid=1568890088&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 450W https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-450FM-Semi-Modular-Warranty-Compact/dp/B0778XB7CK/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Seasonic+Focus+Plus+Gold+450W&qid=1568890111&s=gateway&sr=8-2
Deepcool Captain 240mm White https://www.amazon.com/DeepCool-Captain-240EX-RGB-Liquid/dp/B076ZPCGYH/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Deepcool+Captain+240mm+White&qid=1568890122&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Kingston KC1000 1TB https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-KC1000-SKC1000-960G/dp/B072ZKXL8K/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Kingston+KC1000&qid=1568890140&s=gateway&sr=8-3
Crucial MX500 500GB https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX500-500GB-NAND-Internal/dp/B0786QNS9B/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Crucial+MX500+512GB&qid=1568890157&s=gateway&sr=8-1
WD Caviar Green 1TB https://www.amazon.com/Digital-INTELLISTORE-Deskptop-1Terabyte-SATA2-SATA3/dp/B06XR3DDCB/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=WD+Caviar+Green+1TB+7200&qid=1568890187&s=gateway&sr=8-2
Fostex TR-90 https://www.amazon.com/Fostex-TR-90-80-Semi-Open-Stereo-Headphones/dp/B079L9ZC6Y/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Fostex+TR-90&qid=1568890219&s=gateway&sr=8-5
Steelseries Rival 600 https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Rival-600-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B078LJ6RPK/ref=sxin_2_ac_d_rm?ac_md=0-0-c3RlZWxzZXJpZXMgcml2YWwgNjAw-ac_d_rm&keywords=Steelseries+Rival+600&pd_rd_i=B078LJ6RPK&pd_rd_r=7a919f32-0b30-4130-9085-a40d0767f6b2&pd_rd_w=X4QOW&pd_rd_wg=HVxsQ&pf_rd_p=d29bc9bc-49e2-46b8-bc05-387917c341ec&pf_rd_r=G61EGBMPSP2D2K7BTSVZ&qid=1568890240&s=gateway
QPAD FX90 (not on Amazon)
Ducky One TKL RGB Cherry MX Blue (Didn't fint the exact model. It's like this, but with RGB) https://www.amazon.de/Ducky-Backlit-Gaming-Tastatur-MX-Blue/dp/B078YHST8S/ref=sr_1_12?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=ducky+one+tkl&qid=1568890765&s=gateway&sr=8-12
Microsoft LifeCam Studio https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-LifeCam-Studio-1080p-Webcam/dp/B0042X8NT6/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Microsoft+LifeCam+Studio&qid=1568890851&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Yamaha AG06 https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-AG06-6-Channel-Mixer-Microphone/dp/B00TY8JFSC/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Yamaha%2BAG06&qid=1568890863&s=gateway&sr=8-1&th=1
2x Genelec M030 https://www.amazon.com/Genelec-M030-Active-2-Way-Monitor/dp/B00CC36584/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Genelec+M030&qid=1568890884&s=gateway&sr=8-1
AudioTechnica AT2020USB+ https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT2020USB-Cardioid-Condenser-Microphone/dp/B00B5ZX9FM/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=AudioTechnica+AT2020USB%2B&qid=1568890898&s=gateway&sr=8-4
TEAC TN-300 https://www.amazon.com/TN-300-Analog-Turntable-Pre-amplifier-Digital/dp/B00P9W6SUK/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=TEAC+TN-300&qid=1568890911&s=gateway&sr=8-4
Skagen Falster 2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H9FC6D3/ref=twister_B07TYFM5JV?_encoding=UTF8&th=1
Maxnomic Office Comfort Quadceptor OFC Brilliant Blue (a bit different stiching) https://www.amazon.com/MAXNOMIC-ERGOCEPTOR-Office-Slightly-Silver/dp/B07PQT4LD4/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Maxnomic%2BOffice%2BComfort&qid=1568890959&s=gateway&sr=8-1&th=1

Understandable. Right now AMD has a much better line of cpus in terms of price to performance. Which is why he asked. I would go with a Ryzen platform over Intel atm. You'll save a lot of money, and you'll get much more for it at the mid range and high end skus. You can't go wrong with a ryzen 5 2600 or 3600. Some good boards to look at would be the Asrock B450m Pro4, the MSI B450 Tamahawk, or the Gigabyte B450 Aorus. Any of those are good choices and have plenty of features you'd probably want.

Alright Ill give you two options an amd and an intel option. The intel will be better for most games in the current year and probably for some time, but it will also be more expensive.

INTEL CPU, MOBO, RAM, COOLER , €740.67AMD CPU, The tomahawk max ( I cant link it because It cant be bought in US yet), RAM, COOLER €559.88

The cooler is largely my preference and I would only highly recommend that you use it on 9700k, you could get away with something cheaper on the 3600. If you are planning doing anything like streaming/recording, or using editors that aren't PS you should probably go for an amd chip. The amd chip is obviously significantly cheaper, but I think that its also probably the better deal, that said.If you are purely gaming go with the 9700k to really get the performance that you want for now and the coming years.