(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best cell phones

Taking a first glance at it, it looks pretty solid. Runs the newest android OS 9.0, has plenty of RAM if you want to do gaming on it. Like you wanted, there are also versions with enough storage that you can download apps without having to worry about deleting others. I don't know if you saw this post on amazon, but that looks like a good deal. A couple others I could reccomend to you are the Huawei Honor 8X, which looks like it should suit your needs. If you are willing to stretch further from your budget for a phone that may last longer for about $250 at the time of posting this, I would reccomend to you the Nokia 7.1. A couple reasons you might want to go for this is that it suits your needs, but it is a more well known and trusted company. I used to have one of these and it was a great phone, although my model was older and the speakers broke once after a couple years. Nevertheless, Nokia has great customer service (which is very important), and they fixed the phone right away. They had me send it to them and even paid for my shipping label and got it back to me within the week. If you want the better customer service and are willing to pay a bit more, then go for the Nokia. If not, the Honor 8X, Galaxy A50, and the P Smart are all great choices. One thing to note is that all three of those are quite similar (in fact, by just looking at the front, you can't even tell which is which!) Under the hood, things are similar. So if you find any of those 3 on a deal, I would just recommend to go for the cheaper one. But in my opinion, if you can afford it, go for the Nokia.

Sorry. I didn't mean to sound like an asshole if I did. I was surprised you'd be attempting rooting on your first day like that. I dunno, at $130 I feel like you have better options than a coming up on 2 year old Moto G4. The sixth gen is about to be announced. I mean for $138 you can get a ZTE Blade V8 Pro which has a pretty light skin on Android, has a Snapdragon 625 processor and an amazing Screen On Time. The Honor 7x isn't going to be a light skin on Android EMUI is pretty heavy I've heard. I haven't owned a Huawei since my Ascend Mate 2. However the Honor 7x is going to be a sonically like significantly better phone. Maybe you'll want to try the 64 GB Huawei Mate SE for $229, that's the 64 GB variant of the Honor 7xn in the USA.

ZTE 5.5" Blade V8 Pro. 5.5" 1080, Snapdragon 625 2.0 GHz Octa, 32 GB/3 GB, Dual 13 MP, 3140 mAh. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N7IW7JX/
$138

Huawei Mate SE Factory Unlocked 5.93” - 4GB/64GB Octa-core Processor| 16MP + 2MP Dual Camera| Grey (US Warranty)
$229
https://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Mate-Factory-Unlocked-5-93/dp/B0791VS3N9/

Check out this list, the Blade V8 Pro has a 12 hour screen on time.

Smartphones With the Longest Battery Life (Hours:Minutes)

ZenFone 3 Zoom: 16:46

ZenFone 4 Max (tie): 15:19

Cat S41 (tie): 15:19

Moto E4 Plus: 14:48

Huawei Mate 10 Pro: 14:33

LG X Power: 12:58

BlackBerry KeyOne: 12:47

Cat S60: 12:42

Google Pixel 2 XL: 12:09

ZTE Blade V8 Pro: 12:08

Sony Xperia X Performance: 12:01

ZTE Max XL: 11:53

Moto G5S Plus: 11:50

BlackBerry Motion 11:44

Moto G5 Plus: 11:43

Moto X4 Android One: 11:41

LeEco Le Pro 3: 11:25

ZTE Blade Z Max: 11:23

OnePlus 5T: 11:22

iPhone 8 Plus: 11:16

LG X Venture: 11:12

Galaxy Note 8 (tie): 11:11

Google Pixel XL (tie): 11:11

Google Pixel 2: 11:07

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html

Hopefully I've been more helpful than asshole.

Aaaaand nope. You're looking at the 7 & p30 non pro.

The 7T doesn't seem to be available yet on amazon.ca but the 7 is still a really fine device, it only lacks the overclocked Snapdragon 855+ (nothing worth changing your phone for), the 90hz display and has a slightly less good camera than the 7T. The price is indeed definitely very good for this device and I highly recommend OnePlus to you. I've got a OnePlus 6 classic and it's still in my all time top 4 devices ( along with blackberry bold 9700, Samsung galaxy S2 and Samsung galaxy S6)

The P30 pro is, well, far more expensive (and far more expensive in Canada than in Europe, that's impressive). The camera, display and battery are really better but with twice the price of the classic P30, I would highly recommend you to go to OnePlus or a Samsung S10 plus.

>It's easy to find a replacement. There are four standard sizes.

So if you're looking for the best available model, and only one size fits, you're instantly ruling out 3/4 of microwaves on the market for something that has almost no bearing on performance or other features.

Hmmmm.

>Never actually had to look for one or has lied about looking for one because they assumed it was hard, so they don't know it's trivial.

Or they care about the appliances they get and know that limiting yourself to 1/4 of available built-in appliances is like saying you can only buy a car with, say, a given length that's within 4 inches of an arbitrary set vehicle length. But, odds are that the best vehicles aren't going to fit that arbitrary specification. And that could be a real problem that could cost you (tens of) thousands of dollars.

You can say that it's possible to find a good vehicle that meets those specifications, but if you actually care about the quality / performance / specifications of the appliance or vehicle you're getting, you should still acknowledge that limiting working models to <25% of what's on the market is...what it is. Sure, you can find a POS model that fits. Enjoy buying a new microwave every 2 years.

Which brings us to your last point:

>Has a really, really old appliance (like 50-60+ years old) that was before these standards existed.

If you buy decent quality appliances, they last for longer than 5-10 years, and it will have been discontinued. Any replacement you find will have to be secondhand or it's remodel time.

>That's like saying "It's so hard to find the right sized case for my iPhone 8." just because cases for the iPhone 6 and 7 exist.

It's more like saying "I wish I hadn't bought these women's jeans because no modern smartphone will fit into the pocket."

You can always go to a tailor to get real pockets installed, but you could've avoided the problem in the first place by buying pants with real pockets that could be used to hold actual objects. And while it's true that some tiny smartphones exist, limiting yourself to the handful of ~limited-capability models that fit is...limiting. You'll probably be able to find something that kind of works. No one's disagreeing with that. But not all [appliances] are created equal, and you're essentially pushing the idea that size is the most important feature of a [microwave, fridge, whatever], when it affects performance and reliability about as much as the color does.

At $200 you're not going to get a particularly good camera - that said, it'll still probably be better than your 5 year old phone haha.

My first recommendation is the ZTE Blade V8 Pro:

• $140
  
• 5.5" screen
  
• Dual-lens camera that takes decent pictures
  
• Negative: Still on Android 6.0, two versions behind; ZTE has also been really slow about security updates, falling 2-3 months behind
  
  Another option is the Moto G5 Plus:
  
  
• $185 at Amazon for the Prime Exclusive version
  
• 5.2" screen
  
• Decent camera
  
• Great build quality, likely to last a long time
  
• Fairly timely updates
  
  If you're willing to spend the full $200, though, I recommend the Honor 7X:
  
  
• Gigantic 5.9" screen, great for watching videos
  
• Reviews calling it best phone under $200
  
• Good build
  
• Better camera than almost anything else at this price point (dual lens as well)
  
  There you go!

• Asus Zenfone 2 | Amazon listing | Specs |
  
  
• Huawei Honor 5X | Amazon listing | Specs
  
  The Honor 5X is the weakest option (I'm still counting the Nexus in the list, but since you're already looking at it, it would be redundant to link it), but it's also the cheapest, and it has the best build quality. The largest con is (subjectively) the software skin.
  
  I believe the Zenfone 2 is more powerful than the Nexus 5X (x86 (the Zenfone uses an Intel processor) vs ARM processor architectures is a frustrating comparison for me to try and do, but the Snapdragon 808 (used in the Nexus) is a bit...lackluster), and it has a larger screen/a lot more storage/RAM, but it doesn't have the largest amount of developer support, and the software is (again subjectively) relatively bad.
  
  Unless you're looking to save money, I'd say skip the Honor 5X, it was listed mostly for price. If you want a larger screen and better performance on paper (as well as an SD card slot), get the Zenfone 2. If you want stock Android, fast updates, and solid root/ROM/developer support, get the Nexus 5X.

It depends how much you want to spend. If your mom will literally only be using the phone in emergencies and expects to call less than 20 minutes, send less than 50 messages per month, and use no data 7-11 is great because of the yearly expiry on the vouchers. However once you get into monthly no-contact it is often not the most affordable plan, especially surrounding data. The 100 min talk and unlimited text for $20 is OK but better value can be had on promo plans from Koodo, Virgin, Costco, etc. For smartphones, an unlocked phone from Amazon, eBay, Craigslist, because the ones coming from 7-11 are generally cheaper there, as well you'll get something better for the price. I'd recommend this phone for a first time smartphone because of its large battery and price point. This one if you want something a little cheaper or just buy used. Make sure you don't buy a smartphone with less than 1GB ram otherwise it'll bog down the moment she tries to do anything other than basic phone stuff. If you're just looking for a basic phone with no smartphone features wait until 7-11 has the free phone with $100 airtime deal. They will only make calls and send texts. Otherwise buying unlocked will always be cheaper than buying from a provider in this case.

I know you said not phone based, but I wanted an audiobook player with all the bells and whistles for jogging, and to also have a travel phone so I dont lose or damage my nice one so I got a Jelly Phone for $120. Thing is literally 1/4 of the size of my regular phone, has android so I can load Booksonic, Listen Audiobook Player, Audible, etc., dual sim's but works on wifi without.

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Not sure about sleep-drunk friendly, I find it easy to use and the screen is small so it's not that bright. Maybe the ipod nano would be a good fit if you like using itunes.

Personally I would strongly recommend a pixel first gen. Firstly its not too expensive. Also to unlock the bootloader is relatively easy. Even if you have the verizon version. With this step I recommend just formatting to factory following the steps and if it doesn't work repeat until it does. Twrp is an easy install. Just need ADBand TWRP. And Magiskis simple and straight forward. Smali with AppNinja GPS joy is going to be how you spoof. Everything before this point is to get your device ready. BTW I don't work for any of these guys its just how I do it and have had no issues.


Why I recommend pixel? Because most of this has been fleshed out really well. The stock rom works really fucking well. The device is old enough to be cheap and dissected over heavily enough that documentation is everywhere, but also packs quite a punch. The other reason I recommend pixel is because to return to stock and recover from a brick is simple and straight forward. And because google gives you all the tools to do it. Lastly pixel is planned to be updated to the newest Android OS. Which means once all the hacks get updated you can move forward with hopefully a better and smoother OS.


But as tasty banana peppers has said. All those company devices work I just feel pixel is the easiest to work with. This is coming from a guy who use to do it on an S4 and didn't enjoy the experience at all.

I'm afraid I'm not super in tune with the lower budget phones, but consider the Pixel 3a for nice Google support. Black Friday is coming up in a month and it will almost definitely go on sale during that time. Consider phones from international brands like Xiaomi (example), Honor, Huawei as well since they're very popular for their affordably-priced smartphones. Samsung seems to have released the A50 this year, which is quite cheap (~$220).

Regardless of which phone you pick wait until Black Friday. Until then if you've got a decent laptop you can run FGO on Nox if your phone is struggling that much (make sure you enable virtualization).

I'm thinking of getting the OnePlus 3/3T and I have some questions:

1. What is the difference between International and what seems to be the US version? I have T-Mobile and I just wanna be sure that I can use the International version(which is currently available) to its full extent as opposed to the other one.
   
   
2. I doubt many have owned both the 3 and the 3T, but are the differences worth it? It's a $50 difference.
   
   
3. I'm also looking at getting an Honor 8 instead, but from what I'm reading, the OP3 has a much higher benchmark at a similar price. I've also read that Honor 8 has a better camera. And I personally like the look more, but that's not too important.
   
   Any other suggestions or comments, please post. I need a phone by next week and looked into the OnePlus 5 a bit, depending on the cost and the actual delivery date, I think I'll likely still go for a 3/3T.

The article supposes that Google's canonical page system is being used to inform this behavior. It looks to establish a single, canonical URL for a given page. It says that the canonical page will be determined algorithmically if the page owner does not define the canonical URL.

I wonder if auto-generated canonical pages will trim actual useful content from URLs. For example, timestamps (like "?t=65") on YouTube URLs:

https://youtu.be/qbMTukAJskQ?t=65

Also, automatic subtitle navigation on Wikipedia links (like "#Capabilities")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_Heavy#Capabilities

I just hope that this new feature will not cause regression in such cases. I do like the idea of Google automatically trimming the chaff from Amazon URLs. I usually do so manually, anyways. For example, an Amazon URL like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Pixel-Unlocked-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B072N3GKSM/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1519145581&sr=1-1&keywords=pixel

really only needs to be like this:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072N3GKSM

My understanding of referral strings in URLs is that it helps the retailer track page links, I wonder if Google will get rid of referral info in URLs as well?

Here is a good gaming phone that I feel isn't too expensive considering most popular phones are $800+

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Phone-New-Smartphone-Snapdragon/dp/B07H9V6PHZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?crid=30AR28BH0ELT2&keywords=razer+phone+2&qid=1556372876&s=gateway&sprefix=razer&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

Here is a good mid-range gaming phone that I actually just bought. Runs smooth as butter, excellent battery life, beautifully crisp and large screen for only $220. A Pro version will be available soon with 6gb memory and a better processor

https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-Snapdragon-Black/dp/B07PY52GVP/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=xiaomi+redmi+note+7&qid=1556373031&s=gateway&sr=8-2

If you take pictures for a living or a serious hobby, or you want to shoot semi-professional videos with your phone, I recommend the iPhone 11.

But, if you want a decent Android phone, with exceptional battery life to do mostly phone stuff and the thought of spending over $1,000 for a phone doesn't appeal to you, you should check out the unlocked, $199 marvel that is the Moto G7 Power.

It's not a flagship phone. It's a mid-range phone that works great for the Android apps that most people use, web surfing and, of course, it's a really good little phone.

I originally bought it for my sister because she keeps breaking the screens on her flagship phones and we were just tired of buying her expensive new phones. But I hadn't updated from my Note 5 and decided to give it a try first.

I was charging my Note 5 every 3 to 4 hours. I charge the Moto G7 Power once every 2 days. I cannot tell you how liberating it is to not have to work about charging your phone.

Check out the specs for yourself at https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-g-power-gen-7

It has a 6.2" screen and can be used on all major carriers in the U.S. (like Verizon and AT&T).

It's not for everyone. But if you're in the market for a great Android 9 phone with phenomenal battery life, that's cheap enough that you don't worry about breaking it or that would be a great phone for your kids, I definitely recommend the Moto G7 Power.

On the Motorola site it says $249 but I got mine on Amazon (sold by Motorola via Amazon) for $199 at Moto G7 Power - Unlocked - 32 GB... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N9KQDVG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share (No...I don't get a commission. I'm just doing this because I really like this phone.)

(OtterBox makes a lightweight case for it as well - OtterBox Commuter LITE Series Case for Moto G7 Power - Retail Packaging - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QWQKPQK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5xsUDbABPMRKX )

Perfect, thanks.

Can you also reccomend the best outlet to purchase it from?

Would this be fine(?):

https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-AMOLED-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B07THFLC8P/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Xiaomi+Mi+9t&qid=1564067100&s=gateway&sr=8-3

edit: anyone know the best place to buy the 128GB variant?

edit 2: just bought this guy:

https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-AMOLED-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B07T7MM64L/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=xiaomi+mi+9t+128gb&qid=1564070135&s=gateway&sr=8-4

Is the LG G6+ still worth $470? I don't know if there are more than one version of this, but the one I am looking at is 128 GB, 4 gigs of ram, Snapdragon 821 2.5 ghz+1.6 ghz quadcore (I am not sure what that means with two numbers listed like that).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0791RW7CD

I currently have a Moto G5+, like this one, but I have the 64 GB version ($250 unlocked phone): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0785NN142/

I'm confused on the bits about the processor, lol. The MG5+ has the snapdragon 625, 2.0 ghz octocore and 650 mhz adreno 506 gpu.

Is it enough of an improvement? Is it an improvement at all?

So I might be finally getting my first smartphone (yeah, I know), through the lifeline program with Tag Mobile. From the looks of it, they'll likely send me a Blu Dash Jr D141w which is obviously garbage. But hey, free. Instead, I'd like to buy a cheap (less than or around $100 or so) unlocked phone to pop the sim into instead.

I've been considering a higher-end Blu phone, like the Energy X 2 or the Studio Selfie 2. Am I missing something completely obvious, given my lack of experience with smart phones in general?

My main concerns are battery life, having the thing not lag/be slow, and being able to stay updated for security updates and to not get left behind on the OS updates (my old ipod touch is on a super old version and can't download apps anymore, I'd like to avoid something like that).

Thoughts?

A lot of midranger with Snapdragon 625 can pretty much handle everything from N64/PS1/Dreamcast/DS. PSP is dependent on the game whether it runs full speed or not. Any of these phones should play everything except Gamecube emulation.

• Alcatel Idol 5S
  
  
• Moto G5 Plus
  
  
• ZTE Blade V8
  
  As a bonus, 625 is power efficient so you'll also get some great battery life compared to the 8xx series Snapdragon.

Amazon has some great, relatively cheap, unlocked, and rootable phones.

Two notable ones:

• Huawei Honor 8X ($190- 1080p, Kirin 710, 4GB RAM, 64GB ROM)
  
  
• Blu Vivo XL4 ($140- 720p, Mediatek Helio P22, 3GB RAM, 32GB ROM)
  
  I would most recommend the Huawei Honor 8X. It's a phenomenal phone for the price, and is very much rootable.
  
  Edit: the Honor 8X requires an unlock code to unlock the bootloader, sadly.
  
  All of these phones have full guides available on XDA Developers forums.

If your looking at the Nokia 7.1 here is the where you can buy it with a US warranty. There may be other options that could suit you well like the Sony xperia xa2 ultra for $339 while it may have a weaker processor SD636 on the 7.1 vs SD630 on the xa2 ultra, it does have a bigger battery and a huge screen, if you want to save the money the moto x4, nokia 6.1, and sony xperia xa2 (not xa2 ultra) are good phones for less than $300.

If you don't mind buying without a warranty the xiaomi mi mix 2 should support tmobile and at&t without an issue, while it doesn't come with a headphone jack it does have a more powerful processor.

Also the oneplus 6 (not 6T) is currently $430 on their website

If you don't need cutting edge, Moto G7 or G7 Power are pretty cheap right now. I would definitely recommend those over LG Stylo 4. Pixel 2 XL used is definitely in your price range, used Pixel 3 XL is perhaps just outside your range for something in good condition.

Phone size comparison.

Dpends on what you are really looking for in a phone, if you like all round performance at a mid range prce then you can go for the [oneplus 3t] (https://www.amazon.com/OnePlus-A3000-Factory-Unlocked-Phone/dp/B01MXR13TZ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1496679222&sr=1-3&keywords=oneplus+3t&linkCode=ll1&tag=dealz050-20&linkId=04ac474aed4950e2536c87710311cb8e). The 3t is the best all round phone at that price and even matches up with other flagship phones. The only thing with the 3t compare to other flagship phones such as samsung galaxy s7 edge, s8+, google pixel and xl is it's camera quality. But the s8+ would be the best in terms of camera quality and all round features.

It kinda goes back and forth because of the release schedule.

But I would suggest three phones that still have Google connectivity (sadly can't suggest you the Mate 30 series knowing that GMS suite never works completely even if you user install it)

P30 Pro New: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PX3ZRJ6/ref=psdcmw_2407749011_t3_B07JZ64BWC

Used: https://swappa.com/mobile/info/huawei-p30-pro

Mate 20 Pro New: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07JZ64BWC/ref=psdcmw_2407749011_t3_B07BHDMHR1

Used:https://swappa.com/mobile/info/huawei-mate-20-pro

P20 Pro New:

Used: https://swappa.com/mobile/info/huawei-p20-pro

Great phones really. Hope Trump stops playing hardball and business politics and strike a deal. Shit with the political situation going on over there, who knows how long it'll be before a deal is done. Things aside, great phones, great company for photos!

Nobody cares about the brand of your personal assets, Huawei or not. Huawei is not "banned" as they say. It is still a free country you can buy anything Huawei you want, the only issue is compatibility.

They still sell international version Huawei phones on Amazon to US buyers. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PX3ZRJ6


China's 5G phones normally do not work in the US because they use different technology. But 5G network in the US is virtually non-existence so it is a non-issue for at least two years. For 4G phones, you need to care about LTE bands, each country is different because the auction process was different.

Nah man the phones you listed are too old. They won't run modern apps.

There is a phone called the Moto G Play on Amazon. The cheaper version is only $50. It is only compatible with Verizon prepaid but if you're not using it for phone/data service, only wifi as a personal media player, it's totally fine. It has a micro SD card slot so you can add as much stuff as you want, it runs a recent version of Android (Marshmallow; not quite the newest but it's new enough), and it has 2 GB of RAM so it won't be frustratingly slow to use.

EDIT: That model appears to be sold out for the next few weeks. If you can't wait for it, the BLU R1 HD should be fine. It's only $50-$60 if you are willing to have Amazon ads on the lock screen. I would strongly recommend spending the extra $10 to get double the RAM though - having not enough RAM will seriously impact day to day usability. Back when I had a phone with 1 GB of RAM, my music would frequently stop playing because I ran out all the time. 2 GB is the bare minimum for basic functionality in Android.

some benchmarks:

Samsung Galaxy A30

Basemark OS ii: 1772

Basemark X: 11270

Motorola Moto G6 Plus

Basemark OS ii: 1626

Basemark X: 14357

Basemark OS ii is more important for general system performance, Basemark X is more indicative of graphic/gaming performance.

So you get better gaming performance out of the G6 than the Galaxy.

If you want a big boost to performance for similar money to the A30 then I would get

Huawei Honor 8X

Basemark OS ii: 2493

Basemark X: 20416

it uses a Kirin 710 and you can get it for $172 on Amazon

or perhaps

Xiaomi Redmi Note 7

Basemark OS ii: 2716

Basemark X: 21201

with a Snapdragon 660 for $180 on Amazon

I just got mine last Friday (6/16). Couldn't be any happier. The phone is amazing. It's fast, no lag, good battery, great camera. As opposed to other Android models I've used in the past (LG G5, Nexus 6P, OnePlus 3T, etc) this one works out of the box. Literally no glitches. Getting LTE on AT&T.

P.S. Amazon has a great sale. I paid $319.99 for the 64 GB version: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MEF0R7P/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

First off, looks like I confused you a bit with the pricing. The prices I mentioned were from the German market and included 20% tax. I used them both because I don't know a good US price search site and because I wasn't sure pricing is comparable since you guys seem to still be more carrier bound than we in Europe.

Anyway, converted in US Dollar w/o sales tax the German price for the S5 would be around 295 Dollar and the S5 Neo 240 Dollar. Amazon.com shows both Verizon and ATT compatible unlocked s5 for around 300 Dollar but the Neo seems to be missing on that market.

Anyway, I would actually prefer the S5 Neo over most of those phones simply because I like OLED screens as well as swappable batteries and its still cheaper. It also has features missing in all but the HTC phones like APT-X that I need.

That being said, neither the HTC phones or OnePlus Two have praticullary good screens:

> With poor greyscale accuracy, irregular gamma, and inaccurate rendition of primary and secondary colors, there's no hope for accurate color mixtures on the OnePlus 2's display. There's really not much more to be said. We're not talking about the kind of inaccuracy that you'd get from an oversaturated panel, but instead just general inaccuracy where no color is quite how it should be. It seems like OnePlus just focused on making sure the panel matched the sRGB gamut and put no effort into any further calibration.

> The display quality of the OnePlus 2 is not impressive at all. For a $400 phone this is simply unacceptable, and it's such an enormous regression from the OnePlus One

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9828/the-oneplus-2-review/5

The M8 is also not faster than the S5 but for 150 Dollar I agree its a steal and the reasonable choice. The Nexus 5P is also great value even though I would hate being stuck with 32GB on a phone.

The even better choice than all of those including the Samsung would probably be the LG G4 - 32 GB at 300 US Dollar.

I have an Unlocked Zenfone 2 and it works just fine. It has to be an unlocked phone and can not be a AT&T or an other "branded" phone. Hotspot does NOT work with my AT&T branded Note 4 though. You are correct when Straight Talk will tell you they do not officially support hotspot but many unlocked phones will work just fine with the hotspot function. Just make sure your APN settings are correct and you're good to go. I did have to tweak mine slightly but this info can all be found with a quick google search.

Why do you hate Straight Talk? I don't deal with their customer service ever unless I need a new SIM card. It's simple for me since I don't have to deal with a carrier trying to charge me $70+ for literally the same exact service I get. Now that you can buy a phone like this for less than $300 it's really not even worth paying $20 a month for insurance and a $100-$150 deductible to get a refurbished replacement. I have heard dealing with any issues with their customer service is pretty terrible so I guess I have been lucky. I get a SIM card and I'm set.

The Mate SE would be a good choice. Some people have had some lag with this phone and the 7x (me included) but that was on Nougat and on the Oreo beta the lag is 100% gone, hopefully they release the final update soon. Battery life is also definitely good, I sometimes forget to charge it overnight with no problems (though I work from home and have wifi always on which reduces battery usage).

Besides this, there's also the Xperia XA2 which comes with Oreo already and seems to be a really nice phone for the price. Probably faster than the Mate SE, though it only has 3gb of ram.

If you don't mind going a little over your budget, the Xperia XZ1 is also a good phone, and with last year flagship's cpu. The only problem is that it lacks fingerprint sensor in the US (boo!).

Other good budget options could also be available soon if you don't mind waiting, like the Moto G6 line and the Zenfone 5.

If it needs to be off Amazon, the Moto G5 Plus is probably your best bet. It's an excellent phone for the money and you can get the 64GB model for $209 right now. Note that you need to be a prime member to buy it at that price.

Definitely consider a Moto g7 power. Unlocked for use on any carrier going for $179 right now on Amazon.

Huge 5000mah battery. Charge overnight, use it all day doing gigs, and maybe use 50%.

Ample performance, big screen, camera works fine for what you want.

Moto G7 Power - Unlocked - 32 GB - Marine Blue (US Warranty) - Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, Boost, Cricket, Metro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N9KQDVG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_CwA3DbRZR6ZGS

You could grab a OnePlus 3 for $375, or a ZTE Axon 7 for $380. If you're willing to extend that budget by $28, you could get the OnePlus 3T, which definitely has enough improvements to justify the extra money. If you happen to have Amazon Prime and you're willing to deal with some ads on your lock screen, you could get an LG G6 for $400.

Those are all coming from official retailers, of course. If you're willing to go eBay, you could probably find most of the top phones from last year new-in-box for less than $400. I personally just bought a brand new LG V20 a couple weeks ago for $370.

But if you really want a phone that came out this year, these are all of your options between $275 and $400 and most of them either aren't very good or aren't available in the US. (Assuming you're from the US...if you're not, then you should probably stipulate which country.)

I've personally been impressed with the Honor 8 http://www.hihonor.com/global/products/mobile-phones/honor8/index.html

Now this won't win any originality prices for design, however it has some insane value specifications for the price of ~$400. Can't be used on some US networks though. (no service on sprint and verizon)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MEF0R7P/

AND most importantly available in sapphire blue

The blu energy x2. The photo quality came as a huge surprise honestly

LG G4! Just got mine and absolutely love it. On par with the Nexus 5X, though the G4 is marginally better

I have Pixel 3a. Great phone, has all LTE bands, supports wifi calling and visual voicemail.

Right now Amazon has black friday deal for $299.

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Pixel-Memory-Phone-Unlocked/dp/B07R7DY911

Razer phone was released November 2017

I just bought my step son the zte Blade V8 Pro for new - $130 on amazon

ZTE 5.5" Blade V8 Pro Factory Unlocked Phone - Black Diamond https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N7IW7JX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_lFsaBb1X688G2

He likes it but it's not the best, but it's great for the price. My only concern with it is there are few cases for it.

Tell your teenager to get a summer job and buy something like this themselves. It's cheap enough to be achievable for them, fully functional, and they'll either respect it or learn to. Real quick.

Thanks for the heads up. I will definitely choose the region as US. I went with this one here, hopefully chose the right one. Will do Google Camera as well as suggested- truly appreciate your help and input. I've never bought a phone like this so I am excited.

I really was holding on to the final strings with the Google Pixel, trying to keep it working until the One Plus 7 was announced but it took the unexpected dump yesterday. Needed one of these to hold me over and might just end up keeping it for a long time if it works well.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PY52GVP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I got a Moto 5 plus and am super happy with it. https://www.amazon.com/Moto-PLUS-5th-Generation-Exclusive/dp/B077Y8DN87/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521651583&sr=8-3&keywords=moto+5

Previous phone was a Samsung s5 when they were the new kid on the block. Doubt I'll ever go back to a flagship phone honestly. Just cannot justify a $400-$600 price differential.

NA FGO Player here - looking to move to a new phone since my Nexus 6P's battery is turning to be a joke.

Soooo the Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-IMX386-Camera-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B079816Y5T) caught my eye but have seen threads here expressing issues with Chinese smartphones and FGO in general. This phone appears to be running MIUI 9 on top of Android N. My question is there anyone can confirm that NA FGO will work with it or just with MIUI 9 in general?

If not, I'll have to look for something else more mainstream because FGO compatibility is of utmost importance!

Oof didnt know those existed. Looks like the XT1955 (Optimo Maxx) is the G7 Power. You can pick up the regular model from Amazon but I don't know about Straight Talk's rebranded version. I really wouldn't think that Moto would remove radio support just to sell to Straight Talk but I guess you never know.

Alternatively, you can buy a number of Android phones for like $50, like this one: BLU Advance 5.0 - Unlocked Dual Sim Smartphone - US GSM - White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018IZ0VLQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_6.QnxbVQ1RVWJ

If your regular phone has tethering, you can just use the phone over wifi so you don't have to get a separate plan for it.

Edit: I think you can even find this at the Fry's on MoPac & Parmer, maybe for a little more money since it's a retail location, but I've definitely seen BLU products there.

This is the phone that I am looking to buy, says its sprint compatible in the description.

https://www.amazon.com/Moto-PLUS-5th-Generation-Exclusive/dp/B0785NN142

As for the leasing of my phone... I got it as part of the free sprint upgrade like 3 or 4 years ago? I shouldnt have to owe anything on that correct?

If you can stretch to $400 (may be able to get it cheaper from other retailers, just based on Amazon) then the Pixel 3a would probably be your best bet as it is stock android, and you should be able to disable Assistant via settings. Sadly, it does not have a Micro-SD slot but comes with 64GB of space which should be enough to store a load of music. Also has a really nice camera which is a plus.

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Pixel-Memory-Phone-Unlocked/dp/B07R7DY911/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=pixel%2B3a&qid=1566164532&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1

Or, if you can't stretch to that, for $215, you can get the Xiaomi Mi A3 which comes with stock android (so no bloat), 64GB and a micro-sd slot. A decent overall phone, the specs won't blow your socks off but for playing music, calling, texting and navigating should be very fast on this phone (and the pixel)

https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-64GB-Triple-Camera-Smartphone/dp/B07VD3JH2C/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=xiaomi+mi+a3&qid=1566164794&s=gateway&sr=8-2

> Really, so there's no store that offers certain Google products on Amazon, because no single store is interested in selling them? Amazon outright bans sale of those products by any store on their platform. Instead of your search for Google home, you get the Amazon echo as the first home Assistant result.

I'm sorry, you were saying?

Is it just me, or is the Moto G Play next? I cant believe this phone is $50 and I think its better than the N5 (although I didnt have it long as the battery sucked)

https://www.amazon.com/Moto-G-Play-Verizon-Prepaid/dp/B01M61A8JK/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1499802581&sr=1-2&keywords=moto+g+play

Hmm I get it. It just how I feel about.

Does it NEED to be a Samsung? The Xiaomi Mi 9T is only 300 dollars(New) and high-end specs. Really the best for your buck.

So since the LG G4 seems to be a good fit, any drawbacks I should know about before making the plunge?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01774WPQ8/

There are also phones like the Moto G7 https://www.amazon.com/Moto-G7-Power-Unlocked-Warranty/dp/B07N9KQDVG/ref=sr_1_14?crid=3M0ZPZCZ66A5M&keywords=prime+exclusive+phones&qid=1573908361&sprefix=prime+ex%2Caps%2C158&sr=8-14

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looks like it's on sale for $199 right now. And it has band 71

Possibly relevant as a replacement phone, the BLU Advance is $80 Canadian, free shipping, on Amazon.ca:

https://www.amazon.ca/BLU-Advance-5-0-Unlocked-Smartphone-Compatible/dp/B018IZ0VLQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466448492&sr=8-1&keywords=blu

fwiw, it's the cheapest unlocked, direct to consumer phone I've been able to find that has actually been worth getting.

direct u/RebbeccaDeady spam-bypassing link

Please report this post and user u/RebbeccaDeady to the mods for breaking the rules for personal profit.

Upgrade phones? https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-Snapdragon-Black/dp/B07PY52GVP for $200 is a great camera and a decent phone...

https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Black-Unlocked-Global-Warranty/dp/B079816Y5T/ref=sr_1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1541890829&sr=1-4&keywords=nokia+7+plus
Says here that the "Xiaomi Mi Mix 2" is compatible with T-mobile
EDIT: And the reviews are absolutely amazing.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07THFLC8P/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=AWH9OQ2LSV12U&psc=1
This is the one I saw on Amazon but I'm going with ebay for the 128 gb version AND ALSO has the better deal. Not sure if this amazon link will ship to the UK but it's worth a shot, I guess. (If you don't trust ebay, aliexpress, etc. That is)

It would probably be cheaper and easier for you to buy this similar tiny android phone on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Unihertz-Smallest-Smartphone-Android-Unlocked/dp/B0752BYRHM/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=palm+phone&qid=1554493750&s=gateway&sr=8-1

The Xperia XZ1 Compact sounds just about perfect for you, as long as you're on a GSM network. What carrier do you use?

Amazon's selling the 64GB for $19 more $319

Huawei Honor 8 Unlocked Smartphone 64 GB Dual Camera - US Warranty (Midnight Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MEF0R7P/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_BTkqzb6JBJQF7

Asus ZenFone 2 is $299 in most places, might be able to get a sale. I've had a coworker who moves around a bit for work get it so he can swap carriers when he needs to because of coverage, loves it and all he has is a laptop and this phone. One person I've seen use it but know other people whove gotten it and had nothing horrible to say given it is 64GB and 4GB of RAM.
http://www.amazon.com/ZenFone-Unlocked-Cellphone-Silver-Warranty/dp/B00VWKKHKU

https://www.amazon.com/BLU-Advance-5-0-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B018IZ0VLQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1468606682&sr=8-4&keywords=BLU+android

This guy would probably be as cheap as you could possibly go. The only issues is that its battery is small, it doesnt have LTE and its extremely limited on storage. Your best bet is taking a look at Used Nexus 5's, A used moto X, a used LG G3 or any other flagship phone from the last two years.

This is actually the reason I ended up replacing my z3 after just barely a year. The D6166 is the only z3 model that can't unlock the bootloader and it was abandoned for updates very quickly (other models at least got 6.0).

Since TMobile is GSM, you should check Amazon for unlocked devices since they tend to be cheaper than financing in the long run (assuming $2-300 up front is doable). Something like the Moto G5 Plus should be pretty decent without crippling your bank account.

It's a pretty standard contract that exists with every carrier in Canada. You sign a 2 year contract and they give you a subsidized phone.

As others have stated, go on Kijiji or go to Costco/Amazon and get an unlocked phone. This one is $80.00.

3T and same model as /u/KneePlay5

Looks like Amazon has the North American version for $440 @ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MXR13TZ/ref=psdc_2407749011_t1_B01NBCSXXL

400$ is pretty stiff, since you can buy it directly from Amazon.com right now for 349$ https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B072N3GKSM/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1518733192&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Pixel&dpPl=1&dpID=51q4Yff-53L&ref=plSrch

ZTE are notorious for their delay in upgrades. Honestly at the $300 price point a refurb Pixel 1 is a great buy https://www.amazon.com/Google-Pixel-Unlocked-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B072N3GKSM

• | old price | new price|cleaned amz link
  --|--|--|--
  Pixel 3a 64GB Just Black | $399 | $299 | https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R7DY911
  Pixel 3a XL 64GB Just Black |$479 | $399 | https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R5CJDD7
  Pixel 3a XL 64GB Clearly White|$479|$379.99|https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RBNTVMV
  Pixel 3a XL 64GB Purple-ish|$479|$379.99|https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R4C6KQY
  
  ^(That's what's listed in the linked article. For some reason, I'm seeing different numbers. eg. Pixel3a just black is showing up as $393.44 for me).

Nope, sorry. When buying a phone for a US carrier not sold by the carrier (aka bring-your-own "unlocked" phone) you need to find an explicit confirmation from the seller that this specific model supports carrier X. This confirmation doesn't apply to any other model sold under the same name.


For example:

• Moto G5. Explicitly "Fully Compatible" with Verizon. But that doesn't mean some overseas model Moto G5 is compatible with Verizon.
  
• LG X charge. "Compatible with AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile networks." This one doesn't even claims to be compatible with Verizon. So it's not compatible.

Take a look at the Jelly Pro from Unihertz. It should work with AT&T and T-Mobile and should fit the bill.

Does it matter what varient the phone is though? Here is the one for sale on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/LG-G4-Unlocked-Leather-Warranty/dp/B01774WPQ8/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1458967317&sr=1-1&keywords=lg+g4 (not sure if that is aloud). But nonetheless, I am unsure what version of phone that is, and also what version of android it is. But as you said, that can be downgraded.

How safe is it to order a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 off of Amazon?

Every phone I've bought before has been in person, so I'm not sure how comfortable I feel paying $400 for something that might be coming from over seas

Edit: here is the link I'm referring to
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079816Y5T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_9YP3AbDTD4HB6

Moto G Play for Verizon prepaid: $49 at Amazon

I'm still seeing them on Amazon.

If you're in a country that doesn't have Amazon let me know. I can order and ship to you.

I am a FIRM believer in compact phones and the more that people have these the stronger a signal we'll send to Sony. I will do everything in my power to make these phones sell.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B074P5FMGC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510013882&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=xz1+compact&dpPl=1&dpID=31pcVW-XlPL&ref=plSrch

It's on Amazon.CA for international version for $679. Right now on Amazon.com it's $550 usd which is $700 so this is a fair price for sure.

If you're okay with losing the modularity of the Z4, the Mi 9t is a better (and almost $200 cheaper) option imo: https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-AMOLED-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B07THFLC8P/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=mi+9t&qid=1565463992&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Found this on sale from Amazon. Would this work? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M61A8JK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_5W6GybPZ61BY4

Same price on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-XZ1-Compact-Unlocked/dp/B074P5FMGC/

Ships from.and sold by Amazon: $250

Google Pixel GSM Unlocked (Certified Refurbished) (32GB, Gray) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072N3GKSM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_iFM5Ab83Y3A7G

Just go to Amazon. They even have 2 day shipping in the US.

https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-IMX386-Camera-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B079816Y5T/

He said below he bought the phone off of amazon, it is a prepaid device.

https://www.amazon.com/Moto-G-Play-Verizon-Prepaid/dp/B01M61A8JK

Here's the Amazon US link: https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-XZ1-Compact-Unlocked/dp/B074P5FMGC

Yeah, it is the 32 GB one. $259.99 for 64 GB.

But I see Amazon has the 64 GB version on sale for $219.99 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077Y8DN87

That's cheaper than a few months ago when I bought it for $224.

Hmm, it is the Amazon Prime version, which no longer has ads on lock screen, but may get slower software updates than the one from Motorola.

Have you heard about the moto g5 plus, it’s gsm and cdma compliant, 32gb, and it’s a bit over $200 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B077Y8DN87?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2

Amazon has it in stock on september 5
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MXR13TZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1504200694&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=oneplus+3t&dpPl=1&dpID=415eMPSK5oL&ref=plSrch

That one is the international version. Stay away from that if you are in the US. This is the one you want. Note how it mentions at&t, T-Mobile, Verizon and sprint. https://www.amazon.com/Moto-G7-Power-Unlocked-Warranty/dp/B07N9KQDVG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?keywords=moto+g7+power&qid=1557943064&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

Just buy a cheap android phone, and use a google voice number.

amazon link

If you're on t-mobile, it's only $10 a month to add a line anyway.

Get an unlocked LG G4

https://www.amazon.ca/BLU-Advance-5-0-Unlocked-Smartphone-Compatible/dp/B018IZ0VLQ/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1473283238&sr=8-8&keywords=Moto+G

https://www.amazon.ca/Xiaomi-Mi-9T-Display-Smartphone/dp/B07SQ2JZTF

https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-AMOLED-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B07THFLC8P

Amazon has it for $220.

https://www.amazon.com/Moto-G-Play-Verizon-Prepaid/dp/B01M61A8JK

nokia 3.1 is $139.99 at bestbuy right now & open box $122.99-$125.99 non-removable battery though
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nokia-3-1-with-16gb-memory-cell-phone-unlocked-black/6252310.p?skuId=6252310&ref=199&loc=TM20TXf59aU&


nokia 6: $149
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B072C2F3X1

zte v8 pro: $149


https://www.amazon.com/ZTE-Display-Cameras-Unlocked-Warranty/dp/B01N7IW7JX/

Alcatel 3v: $149


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/alcatel-3v-with-16gb-memory-cell-phone-unlocked-spectrum-black/6260635.p?skuId=6260635

or check with your carrier, they usually have the Samsung j7 & below with deals

Amazon?

This maybe

https://www.amazon.com/Moto-G-Play-Verizon-Prepaid/dp/B01M61A8JK/ref=sr_1_5?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1488200663&sr=1-5&keywords=moto+g4+play

Depends on the phone and seller. Sometimes you get only amazon's return policy (or the seller's), sometimes you get manufacturer warranty.

For example: www.amazon.com/LG-G4-Unlocked-Leather-Warranty/dp/B01774WPQ8/ref=sr_1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1457565177

Y qué tal te salió? Es este? https://www.amazon.com.mx/OnePlus-GunMetal-Libre-Fabrica-Version/dp/B01MXR13TZ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491503298&sr=8-1&keywords=oneplus+3t

5 inch pixel 1st gen, used on swappa

https://swappa.com/buy/google-pixel-verizon


oooh found one on [Amazon] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072N3GKSM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_r3s8AbWVC5TZX)

I think a lot of it will come down to battery and how often you intend to use the phone (for GPS etc). Batteries can be one of the heavier parts of a phone, a more powerful phone will use the battery more quickly, but there might be a limit to what you'd consider usable in a lower end phone.

The Unihertz Jelly is tiny and apparently only 60g, but that only helps so much if you end up having to carry a larger external battery to compensate.

If your phone is going to get even moderate use (rather than sitting in your bag for emergencies) I'd maybe start at with a battery comparison database and look up the weights of phones with an expected uptime which will avoid you carrying an external battery.

The sale is still on. But I forgot to mention you have to be a Prime member to begin with which I already was. Sorry about that.

Sorry, new is $450, used is $380

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-XZ1-Compact-Unlocked/dp/B074P5FMGC

> can't understand why Apple sells while the rest of the industry bleeds red

Take a big mac. Brand it magic and sell it for $49.50.

Voila, you have an Apple.

>can't match Apple at the iPhones price point

not sure if srs.

>https://www.amazon.com/ZenFone-Unlocked-Cellphone-Silver-Warranty/dp/B00VWKKHKU

Dual-sim availability, 4GB of ram, 2.3ghz quad Intel processor, 13Mp camera, 5.5" screen with Gorilla Glass 3, dual tone led flash, fast charge to 60% in 40 minutes, 64GB built in storage, WITH expandable memory (add 64gb for ~$25).

The iPhone barely has HALF of that for $650. It also has a 5MP selfie camera.


OR 3gb ram, 64gb storage, 5.5" 1080p screen, dual camera, 2.5ghz 10 core processor, 4,000 mah battery, dual-sim, expandable memory (up to 128gb) infrared, AND AN AUDIO PORT (3.5mm) $290. http://nis-store.com/xiaomi-smartphones/xiaomi-redmi-pro-high-edition-3gb64gb-dual-sim-silver/

It is on Amazon! :D
ALSO I was wrong about it being 440. It's actually 539 on Amazon. Sorry!
Here it is

But at the end of the day, it's all up to you.

Or you could get a Certified Refurbished Pixel or Pixel XL for under $250 instead:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072N3GKSM/ref=twister_B07BKTQCXR?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

They're unlocked and are guaranteed to look and work as-new. (I have one, and it does).

Note: The warranty is 90 days, so there is some extra risk involved for the lower price. Personally, I think it's worth it, especially if you buy refurbished goods regularly. Even if you get stuck with a lemon sometimes, overall you should still come out ahead in the long run.

Also, if you have a Visa or Amex card that extends warranties, it will work for refurbished phones too (extending it to 180 days).

Yes, I've been through this process many times!

I hate smartphones for so many reasons. The expectation of being constantly available to your screen. The goddamn size of them -- even when I'm wearing clothes with good pockets, I'm a small woman! There's only ROOM for so much pocket ON MY BODY! Smartphones have basically forced me into carrying a purse.

I went back to dumbphones for about a year but, like you, eventually the need for maps got the best of me. Honestly it was the only thing I missed, but I REALLY missed it. So I wound up back with a smartphone, and once again vaguely pissed off about all the things about it I hate.

Now I'm trying this. It's a dumbphone sized smartphone that's snappy enough to not frustrate me, but not high powered enough to let me disappear into a screen when I should be engaging with the world. It'll do maps, which is really all I care about, and I can finally get rid of the damn purse again.

I am planning to start a KonMari Pt 2: The Digital Hoard in the next few weeks. Transferring over to this smaller phone full-time is gonna be part of that.

I have all of my electronics gathered in one place, and I'm planning to do a major declutter of all photos and files. I have a server, so I want everything backed up onto it, and then my actual daily use devices to be clean.

Then once I've done that, I'm going to tackle... email. I'm NOT looking forward to it, but it desperately needs doing!