Reddit mentions: The best playstation 4 gamepads & controllers

1) Fight sticks. you do not need a fight stick to play street fighter nor do you need one to be good players like SonicFox and Luffy play on playstation controllers, theres no inherent advantage besides a few input techniques and in some cases a stick can give the game a rewarding feel or the game to "click in your head"
Maxalillion goes into this quite in depth i recommend you watch his video on the mater to further your opinion on the matter.


I've been recomending Fightsticks for alot for people on reddit when these threads come up and with friends in person and i have to say due to feed back though you may not want to spend upwards $200-$300 on a stick but sticks in this range particularly the Hori mini4 and Mad catz alpha though built well for beginners will be uncomfortabel to use or leave you longing for more. i would only recommend those sticks if you want you kids to play with you and not on your big daddy stick or you are deathly on the edge or very skeptikal on buying a stick. if you are trying to be a little serious and maybe want to attend arcades it is better to get a higher end stick as they last longer, preform a little better and will be a bit comfortable to use. i personally recommend the Hori Rap4 Kai as it is very high quality and the cheapest one the mad catz TES+( is just as good but more expensive (its the same price right now thats a steal!) And the best of both worlds is the sony venom around 86 us with the conversion and bought on the amazon.uk site very good stick and is easy to mod when you are ready. these sticks are worth the cash if you are serious. Think this through as geting an arcade stick will slightly complicate the learning process of learning a new fighting game especially coming from a game quite different like smash brothers. i personally recommend going to your locals area and see if they have a SFV scene and ask some of the guys there to let you try out their stick or teach you some stuff heres a video on what you will actually be probably using a stick


2)Since you tell me you have come from smash you know fighting games. and you know they are hard to learn and hard to "git gud" so dont be afraid to lose, the best winners are the ones who learn from their loses. the first hurdle is understanding the game you are playing then the technical parts should slowly be introduced.


This is a good start

Vesper arcade (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql2OZoRrfos&list=PLIhWuF_5aE1_xHpDsJD1U2OgU4ZuAZrxp)



Gootecks has a very good series aswell i recomend you watch this second (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AomsfS_8cT8&list=PL13KoUNKKsK2HQ_nWMR9wUqtwrA8k317I)

As for picking your main for a character you want to play. find someone who is fun and who you like regardless of strength. The Capcom character guides are a good place to see what a characters capable of and a little bit about their strengths and weaknesses for a better under standing (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs4LjNCY15zMKfPmf5M5_Ow9en17ur3BR) a youtuber under the name TrueUnderDogGaming has a similar line of videos (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHXrezoc98F7jiQIPgeA9655yxUhRPI4x)



you said you like rashid SF has some insightful videos though they are for the micro complexities for the game they are short and helpful to understanding the game, did i mention he loves rashid hes also not a super duper good player so you will have an easy time relating and understanding him (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3f9nd40434_EJ-CkvC9pmzD6s0exYuaD)


on the sub reddit we also have pages dedicated to characters i recommend you check them out (https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/wiki/index)


like i said play who you want, but at the early stages there are soe chaaracters that are difficult to use, will impeed progress with complicated mechanics and play styles and worst case senario bad habits. if i were you i would consider giving THIS a glance before you make any final decisions



Another good resource to learn the game and im surprised it isnt praised and recommended to beginners is the street fighter V Collectors edition Guide book. it explains street fighter on a very basic level of understanding, explains some very general and important fighting game topics and lingo such as footsies and meaties. it also provides you with Frame data something very important later on in learning street fighter. i 10/10 recommend wish i had something like this when i started 2 years ago you can buy it at amazon.com


And the last place for help is our own sub reddit! you have any questions please come here everyone will help you out!


All the lingo, terminology and explanations so you can talk the talk on the reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/stReetfighter/wiki/iv/glossary


Come on down to Geifs Gym! a sub reddit guide to everything street fighter from basic to technical to mental is converd at geifs gym and is regularly updated. we also host noobie lobbies to test your skills and improve!

Come on down to GEIFS GYM https://www.reddit.com/r/stReetfighter/wiki/v/giefsgym



we also have a beginners guide here too https://www.reddit.com/r/stReetfighter/wiki/v/new_player_guide


just like smash (i did try learning smash) one of the first few things to do is get used to your stick and movement so just play the story and all the single player content we have "so far" and have fun! and welcome to the community. Fight well,Fight hard, Never give up and remember to... #RISE UP

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DualShock 4 Wireless Controller for the PS4

Product Description:

COME one, COME all, yes that's right, COME over here fast! Today we are giving the gamer deep inside you the chance to play the latest games in the most thrilling ways!

What I am holding here in my hand is my BIG, BLACK STOCK of a controller called a DualShock 4. Why should you get excited for a video game controller? It's BIG, it's BLACK, and it VIBRATES. Of course, you also have the choice of experiencing your thrills from a WHITE controller. Who cares about the color, as long as the RIDE is heart racing right?

The DualShock 4 is made of quality fine material, but don't let that stop you from playing as ROUGH as you want! Touch it and feel just how HARD it is. It's so hard it could crack open any oyster and liberate so many pearls that you could receive a pearl necklace eventually!

How you play a game can definitely lead this big bad brute into behaving the way you want to. Play a game in a calm manner and this baby will vibrate in tune to your rhythm. However, play an extremely exciting and rough game like Grand Theft Auto and this devil will shower your entire body with sweet vibrations!

Everything about the DualShock 4's been upgraded from the previous version in the name of efficiency and excitement!

Use your hand to trace the shape of this big black beauty and you'll definitely feel how sturdy it is. Grasp it in your hand and feel the pulsating combination of its texture and hardness. It is also very sensitive and precise, it can react and give you exactly how much tingle you want, from a simple and demure humming vibration to the more gasp inducing, body shaking, explosive rough vibration! Pushing the correct buttons will get you the experience that you want!

This impressive tool of excitement has also improved on its charge efficiency. Not only is it harder, it also lasts longer, up to 8 hours! You can play with it rough for the entire night and it'll keep on vibrating without any discharge at all! You're more likely to faint first due to the stress of being shook all night than this lovely shocker giving in too early! But what if it's spent all of its energy? Don't worry! Simply let it rest for 2 hours and it'll be ready to give you another 8 hour round of pure ecstasy!

Not only does this thing know how to regulate the flow of its vibrations, it can also allow you to go into "private listening" mode, if you're worried that your neighbors might call the cops on you due to your screams of delight! This dude knows when to keep quiet and when to be loud! Simply insert a 3.5mm audio line into this controller's little hole and you can enjoy all the moans and screams from your game directly from your headphones! Nothing is better than hearing the whispers and excitement directly delivered to your ears!

Are you the adventurous type who wants to SHARE? Fear not, because this bad boy is open for sharing! Simply press the correct buttons and you'll be able to take videos or snapshots of your "sessions" together and show it to interested parties who might decide to join in on your fun! You'll have a room full of big black and white vibrating handles of fun!

Have you COME to the conclusion yet of getting yourself a DualShock 4?

Your pleasure, is my pleasure! ;)

Alright based on your answers and the stuff available on amazon.co.uk my suggestions would be:

1. Venom Official PS4 FightStick
   It is cheap (65£, free delivery), but unlike the HORI Fightstick Mini, or the MadCatz Fightstick Alpha it has the size of a proper fightstick (though it is on the smaller side of things when compared to behemoths like the Razer Panthera, or the QanBa Dragon), actually it being a bit smaller makes it a good travel stick to take to offline events with you. It also is build like a tank. It weights at least 2kg, and is made out of thick plastic and metal, so you don't have to worry if you drop it once or twice by accident, or vent your anger over that stupid DP-mashing Ken in Ranked. Also because it is so sturdy it sits very well on your lap or the table (it practically doesn't move no matter how much you are churning the butter as Zangief). It is also lends itself very well to customization. All you have to do is unscrew the bottom plate and you have access to all the parts inside of it and you also can take off the plexi on top of it really easily as it is only held in place by six magnets (imo, changing the artwork on a Venom is as easy as it can get, unlike some other pricier fightsticks, I'm looking at you Razer Panthera).
   The only negative aspect of this stick are the actual parts used in it. The stick-unit itself is actually halfway decent, a little bit more stiff than a Sanwa JLF unit (the most commonly used for playing FGs), but it is still good, especially for beginners. The buttons on the other hand are quite bad, they are ok for your first couple of weeks or months learning to play on a stick, but afterwards you probably want to replace them with genuine Sanwa, Seimitsu, or HORI parts (which, as explained above, is pretty easy and doesn't take any soldering whatsoever). So in the end you get a brilliant beginner stick, that will last you for ages, is really good for traveling with and customizing. The only downside is, that you will probably have to spend another ~16-40£ on genuine Sanwa parts down the line (making the whole stick cost somewhere between 82£ and 105£ after modding it).
   
   
2. HORI RAP 4 KAI
   Now this is where we get into the realm of sticks aimed at enthusiasts and serious players. At 91.71£ the RAP 4 Kai is probably your cheapest option to get a really good, brand new stick where you will have to do little to nothing to get the best experience out of it. It is build very sturdily, except for the cable-compartment cover, which a lot of people claim to be very flimsy on all HORI sticks. Though, I think most of these people are just morons who don't know how to handle their belongings with proper care, as I haven't managed to break the cover on my HORI RAP 5 that I used while staying in Japan, despite using it pretty much every day and taking it to several offline events with me. It has HORI's own Hayabusa Stick and depending on the model, KURO or Hayabusa buttons. They are very good hardware, though some people still prefer to to mod their stick with Sanwa parts, but I honestly think that is just down to preference as both HORI and Sanwa parts preform exceptionally well (FYI most of the arcade cabinets in Japan's Taito-station chain of arcades use Hayabusa Sticks and Kuro buttons right now, instead of Sanwa JLF sticks and OBSF buttons). If you do want to change the parts of the stick the procedure to do so is pretty much the same as with the Venom, though, you won't be able to customize the artwork on the RAP 4 Kai as easily because it actually does not have a plexi-cover on its top side at all, instead the artwork is a sticker glued onto the actual case. Overall this is you safest bet at getting a complete, top-level fightstick in the UK. The models I mention next are pretty much overpriced versions of the Kai with some quality of life improvements aimed at people who are really into fighting games and are ok with spending a lot of money on their stick.
   
   
3. Razer Panthera/HORI Premium VLX
   Both of these sticks are great. Both of them have genuine arcade parts in them (Panthera has Sanwa parts, VLX has HORI Hayabusa/Kuro parts). Both of them are really great when it comes to customizing/maintenance. Just flip open the top-part of the stick and you get to the insides without even unscrewing things. Both of them are also build like absolute tanks. Sturdy plastic, really heavy. But, both of them are terrible when it comes to customizing your stick with custom artwork and both are insanely overpriced (199.99£ for the Panthera and 259.99£ for the VLX), so if you do not think that you are in for the long haul with fighting games, don't waste your money on things that are just marginally better than the two recommendations mentioned before but cost twice or even four times as much.
   
   With that being said I do want to warn you. Getting a fight-stick after playing for some time with a pad is a commitment to relearning a lot of the things you have learned thus far with little to no benefit when it comes to comfort, in some cases even a decrease in comfort (dashing on a stick is mostly considered to be more strenuous and doing advanced movements like Korean backdashing in 3D fighting games is a nightmare on stick compared to pad). At this point in time fighting games are usually created with pad players in mind so the controls on a pad are usually laid out in a very ergonomic way (and if they still don't fit you, you can remap buttons easily to fit your preference). These days using a stick does not really have any tangible benefits to using a pad, other than it looks cooler and is considered by some to be the "true way of playing fighting games". This can be proven easily by looking at the top SFV players right now, out of the current Top 32 players in CPT eight use a pad to play and two of them are currently ranked 1st and 3rd respectively on the global leader-board (though, Punk does use stick from time to time).

Evecase 5.6 x 5.6 x 3.5 inch Camera Bag.
Chose this after trying too long to find a 3DS bag that didn't have horrible straps. $16 with Prime

Anker USB 3.0 4* USB tap.
Obviously, you need to have more than 1 USB port to do much, like using a mouse with a usb drive.
$9 with Prime.

Cable Matters Mini HDMI male to HDMI Female cable 2 pack.
Minor shaving required. Not tested extensively.
$10 with Prime.

Lexar USB 3.0 Micro SD Card Reader
If you want to use a ferry card or temporarily pop your card of choice into a computer, one of these is incredibly helpful. Plus it's tiny. You can probably get one cheaper if you don't want the 32GB card included.
$33 with Prime.

Standard XBOne Controller.
Works without any need to mess with dongles on Windows 10. It'll even work with headphones/sets.
$35-$50ish, depending on color and luck.

Venom Xbox One Rechargeable Battery Twin Pack.
I don't recommend these in particular, but a rechargeable pack is a must if you don't want to guzzle batteries.
$17 with Prime.

Logitech Wireless Mouse M185.
Pretty reliable, but only has the standard 2 mouse buttons plus tilting and clicking mousewheel. Receiver stores inside nicely.
$13 with Prime.

Kid Icarus Folding 3DS Stand That I Had In A Box.
Needs a little rubber bumper to help secure the Win properly.
$10 with Prime.

Perrix Asymetrical Folding Keyboard.
This one might be tough to find, but it works amazingly. The weird fold system pushes the main hinge off to the side, so it is less likely to fold the moment you put it on your lap. It also completely hides the hinge when the keyboard is unfolded. A bit cramped, but the keys are properly clicky laptop keys.
For image and model reference

Anker PowerCore 26800 Portable Charger*
While looking for my power pack, I found this one. Seems to be a flat upgrade. 26800mAh with 3 4.8A output USB ports. Also has 2 micro usb inputs for double the charge speed?
$59.99 with Prime.

Other possible pack-ins.

Bluetooth Numpads.
If you're primarily going to be gaming, you might want to drop the full keyboard in favor of a bit of space plus one of these. Works nicely with a mouse if you rebind with HIDMacros. Also more tiny airport/college desk friendly. Example unit is $30

Similarly, you might want to try a half controller + mouse option using a device like the Nintendo Joy-Con's left unit. Drivers are still being worked on though, so only get this if you're up for beta troubles.
$50ish, but you can get lucky on eBay.

SanDisk Ultra Fit 128GB USB 3.0 flash drive.
The one in all the Win lists I've seen, but I figured I'd list it here for convenience.
$45 with Prime.

Batteries
All this stuff takes a total of 3 AAA (2 for the keyboard, 1 for the numpad) and 1 AA battery that will need replacing eventually. I hesitate to recommend rechargeable ones, as I have yet to find a micro charger for them.

Inateck USB 3.0 Ethernet + 3 USB 3.0 port adapter.
You might want to replace the 4 port one with one like this if you plan to do network maintenance, secure data transfer, or just plain download things quickly.

$20 with Prime.

PS4 Controller.
Some people prefer this to the XBOne one. It's lighter in the hand (and bag), comes with a built in rechargeable battery with absurd life, and has a touchpad with 4 physical buttons underneath. Can do some pretty crazy things with the touchpad via Steam's controller customization, but has weaker compatibility with non-Steam applications. Also works with PS4 Remote Play.
Worth noting that, unlike the ps3 controller, this can charge directly from any micro usb power supply. Headset support seems to require the official receiver dongle, sold separately.
Controller Alone: $40-60 Depending on color. Silver's cheapest.
Adapter Alone: $66
Controller + Adapter Bundle: $66

Budget 1 Handed Controller**
Hey, if you want to try 1/2 Controller + Mouse, why start off pricey?
$10

Phew, that's about all I have on hand.

Ok first off hi! I'm beatlemnkyhuman a.k.a Jesus nice to meet you.

You don't need a stick

It's a luxury. Sticks are pricey and custom sticks can get really pricey. I've heard of players buying sticks and never using them so some buy them just for the swag but it is no longer needed.

Luffy won evo and went pro with a ps1 pad and he still uses a ps1 pad.

Punk went pro on pad, nuckledu is pro on pad coolkid plays pad.

you no longer need a stick

A stick will not make you better.
Contrary to popular belief a stick is not magic.

You will still have to work. In my personal experience, it took me 3 months or so to get over pad and get used to stick. If you did not grow up with a stick then there's no reason.

Next thing, if you did grow up with a stick then your memory maybe rose tinted in that your remembering being better then you ever were. Sticks take work just like pad.

If after all this you still want a stick:

I recommend focus attack for custom art work and big e customs for custom designs as that's what I use

[the te2 is the pro standard. Amazing stick, easy to mod. Sanwa buttons and sanwa stick.] (https://www.amazon.com/Fighter-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-4/dp/B018AW405K/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543512575&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=madcatz+te2%2B&dpPl=1&dpID=41vrhKHqO9L&ref=plSrch)

some players prefer the hori rap4 with hori parts. It's cheaper so the stick is a little more loose. Hori parts fully and difficult to mod

the qanba drone is seen as a cheap alternative. Sanwa buttons i think and if not it can be modded easily. Known to not last

The qanba dragon is a monster of a stick that goes for 300 and the obsidian goes for 200.

EDIT: The razr panthera is a pro favorite as well, impossible to mod the artwork but an amazing stick for 200

If you want to go custom from the ground up then you can do allfightsticks. Com which will give you a sleek heavy steel frame or marvelous customs.

Each of those custom sticks will run you 300 plus.

You can even go wood frame which may be even more expensive.

Good luck.

I think everyone's pretty united on this: you don't need a stick to be good at fighting games or to get the whole experience. I'm a kb/m guy who's been playing PC for over 20 years so controllers feel weird to me. I got a stick the day after I picked up SFV and decided to get serious about it. No handheld controller was going to work for me. I also remember having issues with blisters on my thumb and the like that I didn't want to get into again (this was back in Alpha 3). Hence the choice for a stick.

The first stick I got was this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NOAWLBE/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I don't know where you're from but either this brand (Mayflash) or an equivalent will be available. It's moddable, easily, and the construction is very good. Quality stuff. Art is replaceable as the plexiglass top is only held in by some magnets. This thing was built as an awesome first stick with great customization options. The alternative one is this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468837173&sr=8-1&keywords=licensed+stick

They're the same thing but I don't know if the bottom one works on PC. The Mayflash one definitely does. Same chassis, much the same internals but compatibility might be slightly different.

I have since moved on to a Hori RAP4 Kai:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Again, using that on PC with no issues. Just need to drop x360ce into the SFV folder and run it once to detect the stick. Works like a dream from that point forward. If I ever buy a PS4 I know it'll work fine as well.

Hope this was helpful :)

I cannot attest to the quality of Mayflash fight sticks. If you're looking at something like this then I'll say I bought something very similar for the PS2, I'm talking probably the same stick even, and the build quality was very poor. The buttons specifically were so stiff they were hard to press. I bought it and a converter to play a Wii fighting game, but the stick's quality bummed me out enough to quit. If I had played the game as much as I wanted, maybe the buttons would have loosened up... or maybe I would have accidentally broken the thing.

However a stick like that would work on PC. I mean, it would plug in, and the buttons and stick would function. It'd just be a cheap, potentially crappy/easily broken stick. I bought my PS2 stick like 6 years ago so maybe the build quality is better now.

If you want my recommendatiom, I'd buy a regular pad like the PS3/PS4 pad or 360/One pad. The idea that fighting games are best played on sticks is a myth; many pro players in every game use pad and dominate. Many theorize that pads are actually superior overall to sticks. In fact, the penultimate controller for fighters seems to be something called a "Hit Box" which replaces the stick entirely with buttons (very similar to a keyboard at that point). What it boils down to is using something comfortable... which I worry the mayflash stick won't be.

Anyways, I'd recommend a pad because they're just as good as sticks, if not better, and they can be used for multiple types of games. The best pad users seem to like the PS3 style pad, which would be the one I recommend since its the cheapest with a decent dpad... though, personally, when I use pad, I use the analog sticks. If you REALLY want a stick, the only quality ones I know of are in the $150 range... stuff like this. It's possible to buy a cheapo stick and upgrade it with nicer parts, and its not necessarily all that hard, but that's a lot of hoops to jump through to play DBZ.

You can get a emulator front end for pc which works great it's also much easier to play mame aka arcade games on pc vs retro pie and obviously youu have more storage, like someone said above stay away from the packages of controllers, first those things should be 5 bucks a piece, not 80 for 3. Plus you don't want nes controller if you're emulating because you have access to so many consoles and with different controller layouts it's best to get one to suit your needs perfect. If you want to go cheap I'd honestly suggest this controller you can find it cheaper usually around 10 bucks PS3 Versus Controller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0051MQK6K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_XgOCzb45T1KKH
I use it as my player two but honestly you'd be better off getting a couple of those. But since you're willing to spend 80 on garbage might as well spend it on something quality? I'd get one of the above controllers, and do what I did and get the best of the best for yourself Imo this is the best

HORI Fighting Commander 4 Controller for PlayStation 4/3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_tjOCzb8PD2QKE


Both work on retropie as well and I use them to emulate on my pc and retropie and I couldn't be happier.

The Mayflash V2 is literally the exact same stick, but half the price (or $25 less if you get it from the Amazon UK site through BaconGlock's method) and minus the PS4 compatibility. Feels great as is, and is super easy to mod. Shipping is cheap, too, cause Amazon is awesome.

Although, it is 360/PS3 compatible, so if all you need it for is Street Fighter, it should work just as fine on SFV on PC (because it has X-Input support) or PS4 (because I'm sure PS3 sticks are backwards compatible with SFV, right?).

EDIT: Also heads up, /r/Fighters or the FAQ/General Hardware Topic on this sub are probably better places to ask stick questions, since mods tend to delete general hardware question topics.

Fighting games have very high learning curves, but they are extremely rewarding.

I suggest PC if you can run it.

I recommend you take a look @ some of these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd9sEB6ku14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AomsfS_8cT8

(part 2 and 3 too)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3W4zpsOmXpqLG1V5faspQ

https://www.youtube.com/user/moonlitearthx14

If you are willing to learn what is shown here, then you should have some fun.

Fightsticks are not neccesary and will not make you good. BUT they are very fun to use and some aspects are easier IMO.

Heres some solid ones with professional parts:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SULMRI4/ref=s9_simh_gw_g63_i2_r?
ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=0TSMZNQ22HDJQMP9QCKM&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2437869742&pf_rd_i=desktop

http://www.amazon.com/Fighter-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-4/dp/B018HXA6H8/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1458691360&sr=1-2&keywords=alpha

Heres some great guides
https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/comments/4bif5p/beginner_to_fighting_games_with_some_questions/d19o3vu?context=3

Feel free to ask questions.

> no problem, i also played melee for about a year and then transitioned to this game, this is my first sf game. I love melee but i can honestly say i haven't looked back

buy a fight commander 4, aside the default ps4 controller imo its the best pad to play on, good features , good quality and the 6 button layout is perfect for SF games. also the controller is not TOO expensive

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468827278&sr=8-2&keywords=hori+fighting+commander


heres a less feature filled on, but equally good

https://www.amazon.com/PS4-PS3-compatible-Fighting-commander-14210671/dp/B017QORK8W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468827278&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+fighting+commander

If you want a quick lowdown on whats not on the cheaper model is, its missing the repositional d-pad as well as the dpad diagonal sensitivity adjuster (this helps for more rigid controls or looser controls for easier circular motions). The shape is also slightly different but thats not a biggy :)

I don't live in the UK but a quick search turned this up:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

A RAP 4 Kai for 88.92 pounds including free shipping to UK. Wouldn't this be better? Literally a better stick for the same price.

Also my thoughts are that unless you're looking for some very specific modifications that even better off-the-shelf sticks (Rap 4 Kai, Razer Panthera, Qanba Obsidian etc) don't come with, modding a stick overall doesn't seem to be worth it. Most of the money you save from the initial price difference is re-invested into the modding process, and what little left of the remaining savings doesn't seem to be worth the extra effort and time needed to learn and complete the modding process. Not to mention the fact that cheaper fightsticks often feature lower quality casings as well.

Think about it this way: good fightsticks are already so expensive for the average gamer so like any other manufacturer of products, they'd want to strike a good balance between profits for themselves and affordability for consumers in other to increase the Return-On-Investment for their IP (which is essentially coming up with the design of the fightsticks).

If it was economically feasible to sell it for that much cheaper, they'd have done it already.

well then theres the Venom arcade-stick. dunno about availability in US, but hes pretty popular in europe. a friend of mine has one and hes more than happy with it.

i'd probably save 50$ more though and go for a HRAP4 if i were you.

the qanba-sticks are popular, too

I've only really had experience with a couple of Hori sticks and the latest Madcatz te, as well as some custom ones I modded. You have a lot more options on PC, but as for quality I'm not really sure. I know there are some Qanba PC sticks for around $80, but I can't vouch for the quality, although the ratings are pretty good on [Amazon] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BXPIO1S/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_YWr7wbJ230K0F)

The buttons and stick might not be of the greatest quality, but it's a good start and I assume some of the high ratings come from being [easy to mod] (https://youtu.be/FllbddE4zes) but for that you'd need to buy new buttons and new stick.


If I were in your position, I'd opt for getting something of decent quality now with the intent to mod it later when you really get a feel for using a stick and get your execution down. And if I didn't want to mod, I'd wait a bit longer or mow a couple lawns and opt for a nice [Hori] [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SULMRI4/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_y8r7wb9MQ71NQ) or a better quality [Qanba] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007SGGLZW/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_39r7wb7K0TS7Y)
Either way, there's still a learning curve when switching peripherals so keep that in mind

These are the best sticks at the moment for ps4, IMO.


Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai $150 (black/white/blue/red) (Hori / Sanwa / Seimitsu)

This stick has a Hori branded joystick and buttons (Hayabusa & Kuro) Hayabusa has a good feeling, even considered slightly better than Sanwa by some.

Kuro buttons are quite a different feeling, they are matte with less sensibility than sanwa and have more travel from pressing the button to reach the bottom and being detected.
Most people get rid of their Kuro buttons and swap with Sanwa's tbh, but some like it.

Arcadeshock sells these sticks already modified with Sanwa or Seimitsu parts for some $10 bucks more.

Amazon

Arcaseshock


Qanba Obsidian $200 (Full Sanwa) - Side leds, made more of metal. Shiny, solid, wide and looks cool.

Arcadeshock

Amazon

Razer Panthera $200: (Full Sanwa) - Front button to open and easly access the stick, lower input delay than other sticks (except Broo's UFGB).

Razer

Amazon

Qanba Dragon $300 (Full Sanwa) - Unnecessarily expensive, stick is a tank, easy open design and like 90% of full metal body.

Arcadeshock

Amazon

Hori Real Arcade Pro V. Premium VLX $300 (Black/Red) (Hori parts) - So big it's uncomfortable to travel with, playing with it feels awesome I got one.
Cons are the joystick sounds a little bit too hollow when moving around (you can get used to tho) and has tons of input delay. With some modifications (changing the PCB with a UFGB and Kuro for Sanwa buttons) it's an awesome stick.

Arcadeshock

Amazon

For anyone looking for a ps4 pad to play with or use for dual modding, the Hori FC4 is down to 35 bucks on amazon: Link.

Link to my original post

I guess that even though the post was getting upvotes, as it is a thing one needs to play Street Fighter games at a price that people would surely like to know about, the mods determined it be relegated to the daily thread where it may fall through the cracks for some readers. Ah well. Hopefully anyone interested in a useful deal will happen to see this in the next eleven hours.

Hope the mods will consider allowing people to post peripheral deals in the future, as I don't think they come by often enough to clog the main feed. Just my opinion, of course.

That stick looks almost identical to my first stick, and here's the best way to look at it;

Are you wanting a stick to see if you like/want to use arcade sticks over controllers? Not a bad deal

Are you wanting a stick to actually play stuff with? This stick is trash (the parts are so cheap that it'll break within weeks, not to mention no weight to it so it'll slide around constantly). If you end up liking how a stick feels and plays, you'll pretty quickly wish you had a better one.

The cheapest stick out there that's solid for the long term would be the HORI RAP 4. It's a great stick that I used for a long while, and would still be using if I didn't want a heavier stick and grabbed the Madcatz TE2 stick.

Why does linus act like PC gamers can't game causally?

its really easy for any one interested:

1. buy a PC for the cost of a current gen console
   using tools like;
   
   PCpartpicker,logical Increments,/r/buildapc,/r/buildapcsales if you need help building consult; Carey Holzman,NZXT's guide or /r/buildapc
   
   
2. pick your OS:
   
   Either; Windows 7/8.1 or linux/Steam OS or for advanced users hackintosh with OSX or Windows 10 preview.
   
   for a smooth console like UI use big picture mode in steam or Steam OS for Linux
   
   
3. Pick for Favorite method of control:
   
   The keyboard/mouse,Xbox one and Xbox 360 all have native support for advance user the PS4/PS3 controllers will need rebinding software.
   
   
4. Find some causal games you enjoy
   
   bonus Find some Roms and boot up an emulator to play all the classics' of your childhood
   
   Edit: words

Those extra 2 buttons are for all punches and all kicks. You don't actually need them, as you can press all three buttons at once instead, but if you find that difficult to do, those buttons are useful for that.
You can also map other things to those buttons, like throws or whatever, if you want.

Honestly, learning to play with just 6 buttons from the get-go is pretty neat.

My only gripe with that stick is the size and weight of it. You'll want it to rest firmly on your lap/desk when you play. It should never ever move when you do sudden inputs.

I have this arcade stick, and the only gripe I had with that was the Kuro buttons on it, which I have switched out with Sanwa buttons. I recommend it, but know that it will take you a while to get used to a stick. You'll suck for days if not weeks.

Arcade world uk sell decent sticks and parts, generally Qanba are a pretty good way to go. There's a good deal on the Q4 which is a a little over budget but honestly its not a bad deal for a new stick.

Here's a Qanba if you're only looking to use it only on pc Be careful as it doesn't use Sanwa or Seimitsu parts, so the reliability of the controls may be a cause for concern.

Here's a Hori stick thats a little over budget but very much will suffice. Just be sure to use it in PS3 mode if you're on PC.

Otherwise look on ebay for second hand sticks, look for Hori and some Madcatz TEs.

If you're just getting into it there's a few budget minded sticks that you can go for like the fightstick alpha or the Hori mini. I wouldn't recommend them if you really want to get into fighting games, but if you get the for under £40 its not a bad thing to invest in to see if you're interested.

I don't have that but I just got the version previous to that and one thing to realize is that if you've already been playing with the PS4 controller for a bit you're muscle memory is going to be thrown off a ton. You will be worse before you're better.

I'm starting to get used to it now and starting to realize the pros. It has a better d-pad I can use more accurately, better button layout for fighters with all 6 buttons up front and the right triggers make for easy EX/V-reversals, and overall more comfortable. I prefer using it but I wouldn't say I'm appreciably better at the game having it.

1. Yes there is a ps4 controller in the works made by Ben Heck and pre existing ones for other platforms. http://www.benheck.com/pausing-single-handed-controller-sales/.
   
   
2. If you have a prosthetic that you feel confident to use with a joystick you can get a joystick https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B014KXMEW4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1469837675&sr=8-3&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=playstation+4+joystick&dpPl=1&dpID=41f8NpX1B4L&ref=plSrch&dpPl=1&dpID=41f8NpX1B4L&ref=plSrch. Controls on PS4 are mapable on the console itself and PC is always mapable wether in game or third party.
   
   
3. You can also get a ambidextrous mouse type ps4 controller here http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/1/AGS/AGS-onehand/one-hand-controller.htm. These are $300-400 though but can be used on all platforms from ps2 to ps4, xbox to xbox one, and PC.
   
   
4. For PC the Razer tartarus has good reviews for people needing one handed gaming on pc as it functions like a traditional mouse with the second "joystick" placed at the thumb. Unfortunately its made for left handers (you didnt say which hand). https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ZTRW00C/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469839322&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=razer+tartarus&dpPl=1&dpID=41FIAznn6JL&ref=plSrch
   
   Good luck in your journey. Cheers!

I have the PS4 FC4 coupled with a Brook converter. The FC4 allows changing the orientation degree of the D-pad which is awesome to enhance directional comfort. Will this Xbox FC version include the same feature? I see it is also missing the extended left palm rest which is also really comfortable.

"This pad is a pure performer with the industry's best D-Pad" - uh we'll see about that...

IMO this is the best fight pad to date; great build quality and useful features: https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1486249887&sr=1-4&keywords=HORI+Fighting+Commander

As far as prices on the Amazon US go:

The Hori Fighting Commander 4 has universally positive reviews, is compatible with PS4, and now it's discounted to $30.

The Qanba Q1 is a very good budget choice for sticks, costs $80, proprietary but good quality parts (can be modded later), and is compatible with PS4 SFV in legacy mode.

For higher-end, there is the Hori RAP 4 for $150, PS4 compatibility, quality Hori stick and buttons, pretty much the best you can get ($200 on MadCatz TE2 is not worth)

Or you could try the used route, I bet there are many people selling their old but good sticks on eBay because of PS4.

So, I'm going to be trying to get into the game and having been looking into picking up a Hori Real Arcade Pro (Unless there's a better choice around that price range). I'm going to be playing on PC and was just wondering how setting that up with the drivers and everything will be. I'm really excited to be joining the SF community, I've always watched with interest from the Smash Bros side of venues and figured now would be a good time to bridge the gap and try it out! I'm also lucky to have a few friends who are willing to teach me the game and hopefully be practice partners as I learn the ins-and-outs of true 2D fighters.

I'm assuming you are on ps4/pc? There are a ton of good sticks to pick from.

• Hori Fighting edge
  
  
• Razer Panthera
  
  
• Qanba Obsidian
  
  
• Madcatz te2/te2+
  
  They are all in the $200 price range and are all great sticks. Personally I have a te2 and love it. For the most part, it just comes down to preference. If I had to pick, I'd probably go for the Panthera since I don't think Madcatz is making sticks again after they came back.
  
  All of these sticks besides the Hori fighting edge use sanwa parts. The Hori stick uses their own parts, but they are really solid from what I've heard (you can swap buttons/joysticks in any of these sticks, so it isn't the biggest deal).
  
  In terms of using custom art, the Te2 is probably the easiest. The Panthera and Te2 are the easest to mod overall because of their clamshell designs where you can open them up with buttons on the front, but all of these sticks are easy to mod.
  
  I've tried an obsidian and didn't like the shape of the case or the way it looks, but that is just my preference.
  
  I'd just look up each of the sticks and see which one looks best to you. You can't really go wrong with any of them.

1. Playstation 4 Controller My secret Santa got me a Sony Blu-Ray player for the Christmas exchange. With a PS 4 Controller I can access hundreds of PS 3 games to play.
   
   
2. Rise of the Tomb Raider for Xbox 360. I am a huge Tomb Raider fan. My current PC can't run the most recent game but I do have a Xbox 360.
   
   
3. Skylanders Trap Team: Kaos Trap. I am a big fan of Skylanders. The Kaos Trap is the last trap I need. Still need the [Light Expansion] (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QU506JY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2U7TJSOOKGSUC&coliid=I10SQW2SJNJLYI) $70 and Dark Expansion $90 but those are way to expensive.
   
   
4. The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword for the Wii. I have the older Wii system and I love the Mario and Zelda games. This one is high on my wish list but just to expensive for me currently.
   
   
5. Light Blue Yarn Yoshi Amiibo. I don't have a Wii U or the game but this Yarn Yoshi is just so cute and adorable. You can't just say no to such cuteness. I want one for my collection.
   

I used this one for awhile but I don't like it too much -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TKLFES8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is the one I'm using currently -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HT2TTBC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Years ago I used to just use a PS1/PS2 pad with a converter.

Honestly I haven't really found a pad I like all that much. Sega Saturn controller or something like that would probably be the best but yeah.

I'm looking for a stick to play UMvC3 and SFV on PC. This mayflash stick is pretty cheap and is the amazon recommended one, but my buddies who play the games recommend this hori one. I've used the xbox/pc version of the stick that my buds recommend and I really like it, but I want to know if it's worth it. Any suggestions?

It's okay. I sometimes fuck myself up by hitting the middle of button of the DS Pad (cause I fat finger it), but other than that it's just like any other pad. I'm hoping they port PS3 TE sticks for the PS4 SF5, but I'm not holding my breath. PS: Battery life blows on the DS4.

For setting it up at events, it's not complicated as long as people disconnect the DS4 that they connected. Pretty much someone else can make it super complicated for everyone else.

Edit: If you're looking for a alternative pad you could maybe look into something like this http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8/

It was on sale the other day for $29, so you could either get it asap or wait for it to go on sale again.

Well, I have the TES+ which is an amazing stick. It is by Madcatz, who is now out of business. This stick will be rare and worth quite a bit in the coming years.

https://www.amazon.com/Fighter-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-4/dp/B018AW408C?th=1

If you don't want to find one of them I recommend the Razer here: https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Panthera-Arcade-Stick-Mod-Capable-Compartments/dp/B01N1KFRU7/ref=pd_cp_63_3/131-5054613-0716250?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01N1KFRU7&pd_rd_r=H4CZ6D86C7H1H5VAPFTF&pd_rd_w=oovcS&pd_rd_wg=WJDrQ&psc=1&refRID=H4CZ6D86C7H1H5VAPFTF

Personally, I don't like any of the current Hori sticks. But people are always releasing new sticks. I'm not a huge fan of the artwork on the Razer, but the stick is quality. I will always love my TES+ though. I hope it holds up over the long term. Qanba is a good brand too but I don't really dig their aesthetics much.

It's all up to you.

Here's my setup

Yes, yes, I know, I have a CRT instead of a flat screen TV. If you'd also notice, I play more old consoles than new and CRT is superior to flat screen for them (and much cheaper). Ideally I'll be upgrading to a small (~20") Sony Trinitron. The 32" ones are free and widely available but they're sooooo big and heavy.

Type|Item

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CPU | Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard | MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage | Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card
Case | Corsair Graphite Series 230T Grey ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive | LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)
Keyboard | Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse | Cobra E-3lue Wired Optical Mouse
Controller | DualShock 4 Wireless Controller for PlayStation 4 - Glacier White (gifted from /u/MaximumDan) with a DS4 keyboard
Controller | Nintendo Wii Remote Plus with a cheap light gun accessory and a racing wheel
Controller | 2x GCN, DS3, 2x DS2, Ouya

Just got a Wii motion sensor bar so I can play light gun games on my PC and use the WiiMote as a remote control. Also thinking about racing games with the steering wheel attachment. Monitors are from Craigslist ($35 and $10 respectively). CRT was a gift from a friend. It's dying though (discoloration). Pre-amp and speakers were also gifts from friends. PC and consoles I bought myself.

From reading the reviews the stick is small as are the buttons. I want a full size one similar to what they have on standup arcade machines. The madcatz seems to be smaller and also 200 dollars.

Thanks for the links though...

As for games its not just fighting games. I also want to use it for resogun and im sure there will be a few other digital arcade games that it would work great for. For fighting games though currently MK:X looks amazing. Guilty Gear XRD and Dead or Alive 5 also are on the console although I have never played either of those games but they look pretty good. They might make a Tekken or a Street fighter. Not to mention the psn now thing so I can get ps3 games.

EDIT: On a side note that is way out of my grasp on wiring or anything. Looks like ill be laying down 156 for the hori pad. http://www.amazon.com/HORI-correspondence-Arcade-controller-Pro-V4-Hayabusa/dp/B00JK9LQ78

Side note. So from the reviews on amazon it says the stick is either 100% or 0% so its more like a D-pad. Would replacing it make it possible to have it gradually go to 100% rather then 100-0?

Awesome thanks for all the responds guys!
im probably going to try it on PC and see how it plays maybe end up getting it for both.
looking into getting that new Tekken 7 Hori fightstick. i really like the black one thats meant for PS4 but since dont have a PS4 im kinda stuck getting the white one unless i only play on PC or just get a brooks super converter. i also noticed that the PS4 tekken fightstick has a few more features like Turbo that the xbox one version does not.

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Tekken-Fight-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed/dp/B019ZD1I6C/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1495264652&sr=1-1&keywords=Tekken+7+fightstick

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Hayabusa-Tekken-Officially-Licensed-Microsoft/dp/B019ZDL970/ref=nav_signin?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1495264652&sr=1-2&keywords=Tekken+7+fightstick&

take a look if your dare...very tempting..lol

If you want to use an actual stick, I'd say it's probably not worth getting the Alpha. Miniature sticks such as the Alpha and the Hori Fighting Stick Mini tend to be uncomfortable to use for extended periods of time, and are made using lower quality parts than full-size sticks. If you want a stick, the cheapest one I'd recommend would probably be the Qanba Carbon. I own one and it's a fairly nice stick for beginners. Technically it's not a PS4 controller, but Street Fighter 5 and a few other games support it in Legacy Mode. Check to see if the other fighting games you have support Legacy controllers. If they do, this is a great option for your price range. Otherwise, your next best bet is probably the Qanba Drone.

If you want a pad, the revamped fightpad pro is a good choice. I've never used one but the new model has gotten significantly better reviews than the problematic previous model. Personally I went with the Hori FC4, but the price has gone significantly up since that model isn't being manufactured anymore. The newer model is only $40 though, so that fits in your budget.

I got this one a year ago it came into around a 100 dolars. Its lasted a year and its in perfect condition, for a budget stick its of excellent quality and is insanely easy to customise. I'd definitely recommend this stick to any beginner or anyone on a budget.
The buttons are good but definitely not of Sanwa quality but if you really want higher quality buttons its fairly cheap and easy to switch.
It's compatible with pc and ps4/ps3.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487726670&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=arcade+stick&psc=1

I have two fightsticks. The first one I bought was a cheap Hori one, which wasn't particularly that good. Then I got this bad boy and have never looked back: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1520770477&sr=1-5&keywords=fightstick

It's not the flashiest fight stick with lots of extra buttons/functionalities, but it's rock solid and incredibly comfortable/responsive to play with. Plus it's pretty reasonably priced as well.

But yeah, I would suggest doing some research before you invest. See what others recommend and make a budget for how much you're willing to invest.

A great starter stick is the Venom although it probably depends where you live as to whether its cheap or not (i live in the UK so it works out about £70).

Still a big commitment financially but not the £200+ of the Madcatz sticks. Its a good quality stick and very easy to mod. Recebtly changed the buttons with ease and id never modded a stick before. The artwork on top of the stick is just paper that can be replaced so over time you can make changes to it if thats what you want.

Find one of these.

I particularly like the 4 over the newer version. I hold the controller with my left hand normally, but rest my right hand on my leg and use the face buttons like a stick. Best of all worlds, imo.

Shipping is pretty much free for most a lot of online retailers, and amazon offers free one-day delivery for $47 right now. With tax, it'll be right around $50~$51. Do you do 1 day shipping? link

And like I said, it's offered for $40 pretty much on a monthly basis. I bought mine for $40 free shipping no tax.

edit: strikethrough above

Well, if you want to get into fighting games, Skullgirls has a great tutorial that teaches you the fundamentals of fighting games in general. Definitely one of my favourite fighting games.

Ultra Street Fighter IV is really good in Endless Battle. I don't play Ranked because I've had bad experience with the net code but aside from that, game is really really solid and it gets my recommendation.

I don't play Killer Instinct as I lack the console but everyone's saying that it is phenomenal, so it might be something to look into.

Maybe you should play with a pad for a little while to see if youre comfortable with it or not. If you feel that you really need a fightstick, then you could buy the Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai since it's pretty cheap and Hori makes good fightsticks.

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Qanba Obsidian

• Currently on sale on their main website.
  
  HORI Fighting Edge
  
  Razer Panthera Evo
  
  Hori Rap 4 Kai
  
  The 'Hori Rap 4 Kai' used to be the most popular until the 'Qanba Obsidian' came along. From what I've seen, the Qanba Obsidian is the most popular stick right now. The 'Razer Panthera Evo' is an updated version of the 'Razer Panthera' and it's a solid stick from what I've read.
  
  Personally, I'm looking to get the 'Hori Fighting Edge' next because the button layout got me curious and the aluminum panel seems really nice.
  
  
  
  I have the Qanba Obsidian and Hori Rap 4 Kai so I can speak a little about those.
  
  >Qanba Obsidian
  
  Quite big in size and heavy. Definitely sturdy. Lots of room to rest your arms on. Custom art work replacement is easy. Same goes for replacing the buttons. The miscellaneous buttons up top are a little too small and fat fingering a button happens sometimes.
  
  >Hori Rap 4 Kai
  
  The size and weight lean towards average. It'll rest on your lap nicely and not feel overbearing. Custom art work replacement requires a little work because the default artwork has strong adhesive binding it to the steel plate inside. Replacing buttons is no problem. Miscellaneous buttons are on the right side underneath the right wing. You can also rebind buttons.

I've got the ps3 Madcatz SFxTekken fight pad which works really well, but it's pretty expensive on Amazon now. Haven't used it before, but this HORI pad is great for the price. I'm looking to get a fightstick eventually, but my pad will have to do for now. I was so excited when I found out SFV lets you use ps3 peripherals, it feels much better than the ps4 controller

1. Steam Controller - might be able to maintain some continuity in letting you play mouse-needed games from a controller, but otherwise is a pretty good hybrid that will work for everything and has robust support through Steam, and totally customizable configurations on a per game basis. Also if you have a modern Samsung UHD tv, the Steam Link beta is free (works wonderfully) and the Steam Controller is one of the two controller types it currently supports. $49.99, includes everything needed. http://store.steampowered.com/app/353370/Steam_Controller/
   
   
2. Xbox 360 Controller - Will work on basically every game, but some games - even those with 360 pad support - will be retarded and not recognize it, like Dead Rising 2 Off the Record. Not much to say, it's a great controller. You have to buy the wireless dongle separately, it's usually like $30 for the dongle and at this point I'd say $30 or $40 for the controller. https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Wireless-Controller-Glossy-Black/dp/B003ZSP0WW/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1503597208&sr=1-3&keywords=xbox+360+controller
   
   
3. Xbox One Controller - better than the 360 controller, but, despite natively having drivers in Windows 8 and 10, it has a lot of driver related problems. Does not include accessories - if you have an S type or newer controller, they have Bluetooth support. You can only pair one XB1 controller via Blue Tooth at a time to your PC. Wireless adapter accessory is somewhat unreliable - it may not ever work for you, period, might work fine. Controller - $40 if lucky to $70+. I have 3, got one for free, one with console, paid $60 or so for my Gears 4 limited ed version. Also the battery life is kind of terrible, I'd say 30 hours if you're lucky. https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-Wireless-Controller-White/dp/B01GW3H3U8/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1503597180&sr=1-5&keywords=xbox+one+controller
   
   
4. Dual Shock 4 - I have no experience whatsoever with this controller on PC but it does require a separate adapter for wireless. Personally I don't like the feel of it, it's too lightweight when I have used it and the sensor bar seems pointless. It seems like it's probably solid though. https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Black-4/dp/B00BGA9X9W
   
   
5. Logitech F310 - Wired but absolutely solid controller, no input delay. The layout is PS2 Dual Shock 2, with Xbox face buttons and PS2 style sticks, but the actual thumbgrips are more like XB360 if I remember right. D-pad is one solid piece like the 360 controller. It will work with literally everything, flawlessly, except games that have hardcoded controls like KOF98 / 2000 etc. The only annoying thing is the xinput/directinput switch is in the place where you would expect the Select button to be on a Dual Shock 2, and the select / start are above that. This can often lead to you changing the input on accident, which will basically screw you in any third person game because both camera and character control will stop working. Also the back of the controller is more angled than the DualShock 2. You should be able to grab one for cheap - they've been around for at least 6 years. Despite the 1 piece d-pad I actually think it does fairly well for fighting games, too. It's well made and can survive a lot of abuse. I've dropped mine, stood on it, dropped it, tossed it, thrown it, yanked it from the USB port on purpose and on accident, and it's in perfect shape still 6 years later. http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/f310-gamepad
   
   
6. Logitech F710 - everything above but wireless, maybe a slight input delay, and it also has a vibration switch across from the input select. Different color, 2.4ghz band. $50 http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/f710-wireless-gamepad
   
   I personally would recommend the F310, if near the PC but the cord is not very long, so more likely the F710, or the 360 controller. I like the XB1 controller but it's battery life is simply unacceptable, and I don't use it enough that I'm willing to consider the sync problems acceptable when I do.
   

Grab a Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai -
https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai-PlayStation/dp/B00SULMRI4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485751635&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+arcade+stick

Compatible with PS3 / PS4 / PC. Should be around ~$220 delivered. The only difference between this and a (far more expensive) MadCatz stick is it uses Hori's 'Hayabusa' buttons/stick, which feel slightly different to the Sanwa buttons/stick used by MadCatz. Purists will tell you 'Sanwa or nothing', but I can tell you honestly from 7 years of playing SF4 using Sanwa sticks to using this Hori stick for SF5, the difference is negligible. The good thing is you can easily swap the stick and buttons out for Sanwa parts if you really, really must have a Sanwa setup.

Would recommend 100%.

The new models of the Hori RAP 4 Kai should all have Hayabusa stick & Hayabusa buttons with their updated PCBs which has an XInput mode in addition to PS3/PS4 mode and reduced input lag. I ordered one off Amazon last week and it's all there.

Personally I prefer the Hayabusa lever + buttons to Sanwas. The stick movements feel smoother to me than my Sanwa sticks, the difference in resistance is noticeable and I find it easier to instant air dash and whatnot.

The Hayabusa buttons have noticeably shorter travel distance compared to the Sanwas, it's kinda like comparing Cherry Red MX to Speed switches.

I also very much like that the stick + buttons are slightly further spaced from each other, it makes the whole experience feel less cramped.

Looking at the listing on https://www.amazon.de/Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai-PlayStation/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1526897111&sr=1-1&keywords=hori+4+kai - it looks identical to the listing on the UK site (notice how on the last 3 pictures the stick has a little grey strip along the right hand side with a legend of what buttons are under that right hand side ledge, my RAP 4 Kai has this and is the updated model!).

I'd pull the trigger on a RAP 4 Kai, if you got a PS3/PS4/PC switch & matte finish buttons you're good to go.

In regards to warranty - https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/11/ftc-warranty-warning/ I thought it was illegal for companies to refuse warranty because of stickers?

Edit - Forgot to mention the gate:

I would say stick with stock parts as long as you can before trying out things like different gates, be patient with getting used to the controller. Building muscle memory will take time!

I remember when I first started out I tried all sorts of nonsense like stiffer springs, octo gates, bigger actuators, hitbox etc. but in the end I wound up on a stock RAP 4 Kai and all I really needed to do was find a comfortable setup and git gud.

On the plus side I can now switch between pad/stick/hitbox/keyboard at will and it'll take only a few minutes to get combos down haha. I'm still tempted by the hitbox dark side but for now unless I can get a specific style of custom hitbox made I'll probably just use this stick now.

To sum up what have been said by others, I think you could go with a setup like this one:

• a left-handed or ambidextrous mouse with several programmable buttons where you can place abilities or call-outs. Here's a couple ones: SteelSeries Sensei 310 - Razer Naga - BenQ Zowie FK1 (some of them aren't made for FPS so you might wanna try them first)
  
  
• a fragpedal for crouching and jumping
  
  
• for WASD, if you can't find the joystick things Nicholas is talking about another solution could be to get an arcade stick and use joytokey to remap the analog joystick to WASD keys. There are small and relatively cheap ones like this one. These analog sticks have the advantage of giving a very clear feel of the direction you're pressing through distinct "clicks". You might also be able to find standalone joysticks with a similar feel.

If you'd like to try a stick but don't want to blow a lot of money on one, HORI sells this mini one for much cheaper: https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Stick-Mini-PlayStation-4/dp/B014KXMEW4/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
The reviews are mostly positive. Good luck on finding something that works for you! <3

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KVP76G0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=53XKXK262INH&coliid=IWH8RMPCNYHM9&psc=1

Has A K and E!

But more importantly than all......... HAPPY CAKE DAY! I hope you have a wonderful one.

An extra dualshock 4 is a must. Always nice to have a spare. I prefer a charging stand over a cable (i only use the cable to sync my controllers), and a vertical stand. Also a Vita is a must have but you can always get one later.
Controller. (White looks best imo)
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Dualshock-Wireless-Controller-Glacier-4/dp/B00KVP76G0
Charge base: (Theres a white one coming soon)
http://www.amazon.com/Nyko-Charge-Base-PlayStation-4/dp/B00FLLFJ68/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1409771477&sr=8-2&keywords=ps4+charging+station
Matching white vertical stand:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Computer-Entertainment-Vertical-Stand-PlayStation/dp/B00MI4Y3W2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409771405&sr=8-1&keywords=white+ps4+vertical+stand
Sexy white vita to match ps4:
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Vita-Wi-Fi-Light-White-PCH-2000ZA14/dp/B00F27JDY0/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1409771573&sr=1-3&keywords=white+ps+vita

Also some Astro A40s and you're all set!

Aw damn, the SoulCalibur VI RAP N went back up in price. The PS4 version was $106 several days ago the last time I checked on Amazon and there was a good seller on eBay that sold it for around $85 to $95 which is where I got it from. Anyway, I do second this. It's my first fightstick and it's a blast.

The regular RAP N is priced lower than the SoulCalibur VI version on Amazon at $126.97 right now to the PS4 and Xbox One versions of the SoulCalibur VI RAP N being $158.99.

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Hayabusa-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B073C5PWS2/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hori+rap+n&qid=1574632968&sr=8-1

If you're okay with used fightsticks, there is a seller, a pawn shop apparently with good reviews, selling the PS4 version of the Hori Tekken 7 RAP N for $99.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-Hayabusa-Tekken-7-Edition-Fight-Stick-PS4080/233395481925?hash=item3657746d45:g:cS0AAOSwfOBdxeKs&shqty=1&isGTR=1#shId

Personally, I wouldn't buy it not because it's used, but because of the price. From what I gathered, the Tekken 7 version is more of a collector's edition. It's usually more expensive than the regular RAP N and the SoulCalibur VI which because it was attached to a less popular game, is sold for less than the regular RAP N where except for not have these rubber mats under them, the same thing the Tekken 7 version lacks if I recall correctly, it's the same fightstick with a different art and case color. That is just me, though, if you really want a RAP N, like the Tekken 7 stock art, and are okay with the price, then sure.

Another "used" fightstick is the Rap 4 Kai which was mentioned by another user on Amazon. Amazon Warehouse currently has a "like new" offer for the Rap 4 Kai and it's $116.85. I've had good experiences with Amazon Warehouse, but there have been some misses like they sent me the wrong items. Not all that bad since you can just send it back and get a refund.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00SULMRI4/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=soul+calibur+fightstick&qid=1574631682&sr=8-7

Someone else posted a thread about how the Razer Panthera Evo is on sale on their site and their eBay store for $140. The one issue with the Panthera Evo is that it can be difficult to install a Korean lever. You did not mention any 3D fighters like Dead or Alive, SoulCalibur, or Tekken, so it probably won't matter much, but in the future if you ever get into those, especially Tekken, or you really want to try out a Korean lever, then it could be a pain to install.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fightsticks/comments/e11iq2/razer_panthera_evo_on_sale_for_140_via_razercom/

There's a user selling the Qanba Obsidian here. I do not want to imply the user is a bad person, but do be careful. The thread's title was not changed, but they're asking for $125 now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fightsticks/comments/dyopbe/wts_qnaba_obsidian_140_shipped/

The Venom posted below is alright if you're not sure, but most people will tell you to upgrade to Sanwa parts anyway, which creates a false economy. Unfortunately, in the UK we're actually pretty limited in terms of fight sticks available for purchase (for reasonable amounts of money).

I bought my RAP4 for about £120 and it's got a decent amount of heft, so it won't shift around like a Mayflash. Adjusting from pad to stick took a bit of getting used to (you'll get worse before you get better!) but it does save a lot of strain on your thumbs and IMO certain actions become way easier to pull off.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PS4-Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai-x/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/

As far as the other discussion of Sanwa vs Hori goes, I wouldn't worry about it at this point. I've used both and prefer Hori, but I can't say that my performance would be affected if I had to play on anything else.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HORI-Arcade-Hayabusa-Fight-Stick/dp/B07895D3XF/

This is pretty much the same thing as the RAP4, but I think the layout is *slightly different. Around about the same on Amazon Prime though.

OK, sounds good! I'll give it a shot. Just ordered from Amazon. Thanks man! A quick heads-up for anyone else who's interested because there's seems to be a little confusion. There are two models: this one: $48 (which says: [OLD MODEL] in the product name) & this one: $46. I got the latest model which, because of a discounting, is actually cheaper! lol

I'd recommend buying a new one - while the Dualshock 4 is a great controller, lots of users have had issues with the thumbsticks after a year or so of use. I take really, really good care of my stuff and I've been through 4 controllers in 3 years (including extending life via manual repairs)

Amazon sells them new for $47, a fairly significant discount from the MSRP, but you can probably find better deals. The newer controllers seem a bit more solid and durable than the ones I bought at launch.

I got a Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 off Amazon for ~$200. Works on PC and PS4, feels great, looks great, all that jazz. Definitely recommended

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-PlayStation-4/dp/B00SULMRI4

>I'd have thought a decent gaming machine would cost vastly more than a console and I'd have to buy a

Not true. This guy's proves it = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZR-a35sxLg

>I'd have to buy a desk and shit to shove the monitor and keyboard and all that bollocks on

Well, if you want to sit on your couch and just skip using a keyboard you can do that...



Also how fucking big do you think a PC has to be? Like.. Seriously how big? Because you are so full off yourself. Also, you still need to buy a controller for your console (I know one comes with) but you can literally buy a keyboard and mouse for 5$

Last time I checked you still need to buy a TV to use it for your console. So why are you telling me that a PC needs a monitor but a console doesnt need a TV?


Here let's do some comparisons.

400$ PS4. http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/consoles/playstation-4-system/109942

14.99$ TV unit (I took the absolute cheapest one...) http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/50243299/

Sofa or sitting on the floor? Alright here you go. A chair 29.99$ (still, cheapest one I could find) http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10289128/

You want some games? Hm, let's take some games that are new and are on both PC and PS4. Let's say 4 games.

Dying Light 59.99$ http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/dying-light/111372

GTA 5 59.99$ http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/grand-theft-auto-v/115462

Evolve 59.99$ http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/evolve/113546

Far Cry 4 59.99$ http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/far-cry-4/115109

Do you want to play with a buddy? Another controller. 53.33$

http://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Black-4/dp/B00BGA9X9W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420739574&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation+4+controller

And lastly. A TV that is in 1080p 156.59$ (the cheapest one I could find that was NEW. NO Used ones or refurbished!) http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00EAY1FGA/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new



Total price 894.86$

Also, do you want to play online? 1 month is 9.99$, 3months is 17.99$ and 12months is 49.99$


Now, let's do our 350$ PC. So PC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZR-a35sxLg

Do you want to use it on a TV unit or on a desk? You choose. (you could technically do this on the console too but a desk is more expensive.) Let's go with desk for your convinience so 79.99$

Same here, couch or a chair? I'll go with a chair 19.99$ http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S79046260/

And now on games.

So, since Dying Light hasnt released the price for the american price I'll pick the european price and change it to the american currency (This will make it more expensive than usually) EU price: 49.99€ converted to dollars 59.07$ http://store.steampowered.com/app/239140/

Since steam has not given out a price of GTA V on steam I'll pick it from G2play.net (it will most likely be sold for 49.99$) but here you go. 55.64$ http://www.g2play.net/category/3077/grand-theft-auto-v-steam-key/

LoL, I am actually kind of happy right now, it's not that usual that europeans get the game cheaper than americans do but we do on Evolve, anyway. Here you go 59.99$ http://store.steampowered.com/app/273350/

Far Cry 4 59.99$ http://store.steampowered.com/app/273350/

Do you want to play with a friend? A controller. I couldnt be bothered looking for a cheaper one. Here you go 9.99$ http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Twelve-Button-Game-Controller-USB-GAMEPAD/dp/B00AEWTSWU/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1420741023&sr=8-5&keywords=pc+controller

And lastly, A TV/Monitor 156.59$ http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00EAY1FGA/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Total: 851,25$

Now, yes. It is very close but my argument will always stand, it will be cheaper on steam. With steam sales, humble bundles (https://www.humblebundle.com/ seriously it's 4 games for 1$... Altho I never pay below average because I am not a scumbag, but still) and websites like G2play.net you will ALWAYS find games that are cheaper, for an example here you go with Far Cry 4 for 34.64$ http://www.g2play.net/category/11641/far-cry-4-uplay-key/

Okay, I appreciate that. That seems fair. To be honest £18.99 seems like a decent enough deal to me. Just seems like it should be about 14/15 quid. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wired-MINI-Gamepad-PlayStation-Controller/dp/B076PPD3TJ

Are you looking for something on the smaller or larger side? This one is rare and has good parts, but for the price you can get something like the Qanba Obisdian which is very nice imo. A few other good options at that price are the Razer Panthera (if you can find one) and the Hori Tekken 7 stick. All of these that I mentioned will work on both PS4 and PC

Practice and take breaks often. Your brain needs time to digest what it just learned. With time, it'll come naturally. I like to compare it to MMO's in a way. The same way you would grind for gear or whatever, you grind your combos until your really proficient at it. Eventually you'll get so good that even new characters will be a quick learning experience (execution wise, not footsie wise).

Don't let anyone tell you you can't do it on a controller. I can name like 10 pro's of the top of my head that prove that wrong.

I do however, recommend a controller with all the buttons on the face like this one

But it's not necessary. Use whatever you're comfortable with.

NP and good luck! If your heart is dead set on that design, $400 isn't a terrible deal considering a broken TE2+ goes for at least $200 (for some goddamn reason), the EZ mod/Brook UFB combo is another $140, and you'll be lucky to ever find red side panels to begin with, let alone pay less than $70-$100 for them.

Otherwise, you can save $150-200 or so and get a HORI pad that's just as good, if not better. They even make a Tekken 7 version if you can find it.

I absolutely adore my Hori Fighting Commander 4. Incredible pad. Lots of nifty features, PS4/PS3 compatible as well as PC, works out of the box, nice dpad, good buttons, all around solid and priced rather fairly.

i've heard nothing but good things about the hori real arcade pro 4 kai (EU139.39) (link below).
i did the same and learned with a hori fight stick mini which was an awesome experience, although awkward to get used to the position at first, still using it to this day but got a pro 4 kai on the way.
the mini fight stick did require some 3rd party software (joy2key) to run, but very easy to set up, and very responsive.

hope this helps!

hori fight stick mini
https://www.amazon.de/PS4-Fighting-Stick-Mini-PlayStation/dp/B019MMN94A/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1492436675&sr=1-1&keywords=hori+mini

hori real arcade pro 4 kai:
https://www.amazon.de/Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai-PlayStation/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492436488&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+pro+4+kai

Any stick starting at $150+ is pretty much good. Personally, I would recommend Hori Rap 4. However, all of these are good:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=hori+rap+4

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Arcade-Pro-V-Hayabusa-2017-brand/dp/B01N06CYSM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497098872&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+real+arcade+pro+hayabusa+2017

https://www.focusattack.com/qanba-obsidian-ps3-ps4-pc-fightstick/

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Tekken-Fight-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed/dp/B019ZD1I6C/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1497110479&sr=8-5&keywords=qanba+obsidian

http://www.etokki.com/Omni-Sanwa-Edition

http://www.etokki.com/Omni-Korean-Edition

I feel like I have a lot of muscle memory on controller from other games as well.. so it's a bit rough transitioning to stick. Never played any arcade, but (same as you) played on controller since PS1.

I bought a Hori Rap4 Kai I don't know if it's a good stick or not for tekken, but I saw it was generally favorable reviews, so maybe someone else can answer that.

One thing I will say though, I bought the Tekken 6 bundle that came with a cheaper stick. And I won't do that ever again, that stick was not good quality.

Do not buy a Mad Catz stick, they are overpriced. Yes they are good sticks but you could get a Hori and Qanba that is just as good for half the price. I would personaly recommend this one or that one. They both work on PC.

A fair warning though: Getting used to Stick takes time and practice. They are quite expensive too (at least the good ones are).

So if you are going to get into fighting games on PC but don't want to deal with sticks you could get a fightpad which will have a better d-pad than any xbox controller ever had (as far as i can tell) for about the same price.

http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1459323144&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+fightpad

If you're interested you could always visit the sub of the game you want to try and ask there what people use and how well it works for the given game.

With the PCB, five 24mm buttons, eight 30mm buttons, joystick, and USB wires/connector you're over $100 (that's without a touchpad, balltop, shaft sleeve, extra wires for the home/options/share/R2/R3 buttons, PCB harness, and shipping).

Then there's materials and time spent on a decent case - $20 to $30 I think would be reasonable.

In the end I can guarantee that you will save at most $10 if you built this from scratch. And that's if you spend almost nothing on the case.

I'm not trying to stop you from making you're own stick - I've done it and loved every minute. But honestly if saving money is the biggest concern, I think buying a prebuilt is the way to go. There's a reason that independent stick builders charge insane amounts of money for a custom project.

I got a Venom Fightstick, very nice, easy on the pockets. Even Desk uses it. Best part is that it is highly moddable. I replaced both my buttons and stick with sanwa parts. Highly reccomended.

It is available here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Venom-Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1525672313&sr=8-2&keywords=venom+fightstick

This is what I use https://www.amazon.co.uk/PS4-Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hori+rap+4&qid=1556421599&s=gateway&sr=8-1

I've had it for about a year and half and it's working as good as the day I got it. Pretty solid stick if you want a nice one but don't want to regret it later haha

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I will say that,minus Falke seeing requires remapping for a pad,nobody really needs a stick.

This Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai keeps dropping in price on Amazon. It did it the other day and made it down to like 113 bucks or something, so keep your eye on it for a bit. I think it is pretty well regarded as a good stick, others may have more input than me.

So you use Joy2Key for that? You could use that Mayflash adapter so that you dont need sofware.

I use the Wii Classic (non pro version) and the only other controller I tried that I like (I bought like 5 or more, no joke) is the Hori Commander 4 (http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8).

This one is plug and play with no adapter (but you cant taunt unfortunately, unless BMG allows us to bind taunts to buttons). So I might switch to this one soon cuz it does feel more responsive than my Wii Classic (I think the adapter adds a bit of delay).

Edit: Also, it works on PS4 so once Brawlhalla hits PS4 and there are lan tourneys using the PS4, we ready son. lol

Fightstick

PCB

Joystick

Button plunger

Button base

Dustwasher

Shaft

Battop

LED's

Driver

Breakout board

I think I spent around $600 on it, though half of that was the fightstick itself. I'm not finished however, there are a few more things I want to add:

1. Custom panel, preferably one with a Sega 8 button layout, and some custom artwork, preferable of Super Sentai (I was thinking of doing it with Kyuranger and making the joystick a balltop of one of the Kyutama but I like battops more)
   
   
2. A gold plunger for the 24mm button
   
   
3. A hollow sanwa clear battop for an LED that will diffuse the light properly
   
   
4. A different cable, preferably a braided or flat cable
   
   
   What do you guys think? This is my first major mod on a fightstick, I've never changed a PCB before though I didn't have to do any soldering so it wasn't really that hard

I'm just going to leave this here.

Amazon

GameStop

Shipping costs on a flat rate box are actually $17.90 for the large flat rate box.

Let's go with the $51.90 control, and great! We have free shipping! So that's $51.90(Controller) + $17.90(Shipping) + $290.00 (PS4) = $359.80

Now, let's compare with the market, shall we? This thread has a white PS4, with Destiny, The Last of Us remastered, and a controller for $350. See where the price drop to $250 would help you?

>are they really worth it

Depends on what you want. It's not going to make you a better player. If you are having some discomfort using a pad or a keyboard, it might help with that. For example, I got sore thumbs playing with a pad and switching over to a fightstick helped with that.

>how long does it take to adjust?

A number I see said often is about a month. It takes time, and the directional inputs are a completely different experience, both in terms of execution and timing. So if you're the type that gets mad when you drop an iWR or EWGF, well better get used to it.

>link the one you have

This, but modded with higher quality joystick and buttons. Got it because it was the cheapest option I had for a stick that came with art swapping capability out of the box.

>the best one out there ?

There isn't one. Most sticks above 100$ use identical parts (Sanwa Denshi), with the only difference being the case they are in. Popular brands of non-custom sticks are Qanba, Hori, Mad Catz and Razer.

I've never played with a PS3 or PS4 pad, but I'd recommend looking into the Hori Fighting Commander 4 as a fantastic value for $30 if you're only looking for a fighting game controller and don't need the analog sticks for other games. Setting it up to work on PC is very easy with x360ce.

4 battery pack + battery charger https://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Rechargeable-Auto-Safety-Over-charge-Protection/dp/B00IM3P8GS/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2SXTYRG36F5U9&keywords=rechargeable+aa+batteries&qid=1567265383&s=gateway&sprefix=rech%2Caps%2C279&sr=8-4 13 bucks

Ps4 controller https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Magma-4/dp/B01MD19OI2/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3M2388Q4EG7EN&keywords=ps4%2Bcontroller&qid=1567265472&s=gateway&sprefix=ps4%2Bcontero%2Caps%2C277&sr=8-3&th=1 44 bucks

The Elite controller was a huge flop and it is strongly outdated, I'm pretty sure it doesn't even have Bluetooth, and also you can simply buy the standard controller if you don't like it or buy one of the third party ones.

You can just purchase a cheaper stick and mod it in the future. The Mayflash Stick is $40 and can be modded with Sanwa parts. The Venom Stick can be had for like $70 if you can find it and actually can be modded to be VERY good looking and with all the good parts. As mentioned in the other replies, the Hori sticks are constantly on sale as well both at stores and locally I'm sure. I always see them on Kijiji.

Yet ANOTHER alternative is a converter. The Brooke PS3 to PS4 Converter is restocked very frequently. Focus attack should be getting them soon as their stocks are likely just depleted from their holiday sale. This thing costs you $35 bucks and should have no lag issues from everything written about them on Shoryuken.

You can even buy a new PCB and dual mod your stick to work on whatever you want. Lots of solutions for you. You dont need to spend $200, especially if you already have a stick.

Can i ask you for advice?

I really would like to be sure im buying real controller, do you think this is legit seller,im new to amazon and i don't know how to check if i can trust someone https://www.amazon.es/Dual-Shock-Silver-PS4-Japon/dp/B01M6CV5IF?SubscriptionId=AKIAIPHVZTVH6LZ5BFZA&tag=tech0ae4-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01M6CV5IF&ascsubtag=trd-1450874432764923670-21

Wireless Controller (DUALSHOCK 4) Crystal

PlayAsia also has them for $65(What I paid). They are for sure 1st party Japan exclusives, not modded or 3rd party. They look much better in person than in OP's pic. Note that the back LED does not light up the controller at all.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SULMRI4/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1426440508&sr=8-2&keywords=hori+v4&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

Looks like Amazon still has this one in stock. I just picked it up last week and I'm happy with it - it's an improvement over my v3 Kai. I have been experiencing an issue playing on PC where it doesn't work unless I unplug the USB cable and plug it back in again, which is a minor annoyance. I haven't looked into a fix yet.

I got this from a recommendation when I asked reddit, it's a great stick. I haven't had a single issue with it; it's worked perfectly.

If you live in Europe get the PS4 Venom arcade stick. It's very moddable and works natively with the PS4. You wont have to pay the inflated prices either because it's made for Europe and not the USA-

https://www.amazon.es/Venom-Arcade-Stick-PS4-PS3/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_es_ES=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=VMHWVHV7OM1F&keywords=venom+arcade+stick&qid=1573051944&sprefix=venom+arc%2Caps%2C231&sr=8-3

I'm American and I have one of these and I love it. It's very easy to swap the buttons and joystick to a different brand. I have Sanwas in mine, and you can upgrade it similarly while staying close to $100 for overall cost.

I use this one : the Hori FC4 Pro

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8

I've been using it for almost 2 years now, and it is just beginning to show some signs of fatigue. So I bought another one. I just love this pad

I must note that I play Gief, both in SF5 and SF4 and that I am quite a butter churner (I killed a brand new Hori wireless Tekken5 stick in 2 days, a PDP MKX fightpad in a month, a madcatz SfxT in 2 weeks) :p

I never had problems with the rotating d-pad, nor the sensitivity switch (though I locked both as I wanted them day1, and never unlocked them since, so that may be why).

What I really like about this pad is the sensitivity setting and the 6 + 4 buttons. Of course you can only map 8 buttons in game, but then I have my 6 face buttons for LP/MP/HP and LK/MK/HK, on the left triggers I have PPP (lariat) and KKK (V-reversal) and on the right triggers HP and HK that I use only to activate Vtrigger. This makes it much easier to do things like c.LP os V-Trigger

That's a good reason. It mostly comes down to small preferences like that. Sticks are fine. I use them myself actually (I have a gen 1 TE, a shitty gen 1 SE, and a Hori VLX). It's just not strictly better like our FGC forefathers used to claim lol

Speaking of which, would you be interested in buying a VLX? I have one, but I never use it anymore. I'm actually thinking about switching to hitbox. The backplate for the little compartment on the left is gone but besides that it's in perfect condition.

I have no idea on that one. But if it doesnt ship there and you're in the UK I heard this stick is good for the price point:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS

Its actually got pretty great reviwes, 4.5 stars

HORI Fighting Commander 4 Controller for PlayStation 4/3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_pTE8wbQG5BKKZ

Something like that seems like it would be awesome.

The iBuffalo SNES controllers are pretty cheap and have a nice build quality.

You could also get some USB Sega Genesis controllers (as Genesis maps terribly to a snes layout).

i use this guy it's honestly not that bad. someday i would love to get the Qanba Crystal though.

I use the Razer Panthera with my Magic NS adapter and it's great!

It does NOT add input delay! I went into Shovel Knight co-op and press jumped same time on a Pro Controller and the fight stick and it was the exact same time. I will say they make the screen capture/ record button for playstation controllers is the touch pad button so be weary about that.

Yeah that adapter is so worth it if you have a PS4 or Xbox One. Best games so far for it are tetris, sine mora EX, BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle, Street Fighter, any of the NEO GEO games.

There are lots of companies still making quality sticks. If you use the term 'fightstick' you'll have better luck searching. Hori, Madcatz, and Qanba all have good sticks out there right now.

Here's an example of a quality stick.

Sure but then your total cost would be around 100-110gbp when a proper stick costs the same or less:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PS4-Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1536613381&sr=8-2&keywords=hori+pro

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HORI-Arcade-Hayabusa-Fight-Stick/dp/B07895D3XF/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1536613381&sr=8-3&keywords=hori+pro

I use the Pro N and it's great.

This is the one I have it comes with a 4 way restriction plate, and I am modding it to an 8-gate tonight. That is the only thing I really wanted to change. Hori did a great job over all. I might eventually change it to Sanwa, but for now it works great.

When I look at the amazon page here: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00SULMRI4?pf_rd_p=46535598-d2e0-4bc4-8392-182d8c1e93fc&pf_rd_r=DP635DZCYYWTD776DGC5

it says on description that it has Hayabusa stick but kuro buttons but as u scroll down to the image below, it says its both hayabusa stick and buttons, also if you look on the product image of the box, it says kuro buttons, i'm so lost right now. XD

I have a wired 360 pad (but /u/Vulfilla posted a link to the wireless one) and I can say that I am very happy with the ergonomics, I have an old one with both sticks on the bottom, like the Logitech, and I feel that the 360 layout of having one stick at the top is much more comforable.

You might consider an Xbox One Controller, which people describe as being even more ergonomic, or a PS4 Controller.

Honestly when I need a new controller I buy the name brand. I've bought a few off brand controllers and they always die way faster (both in battery life and longevity of the controller) and have issues with sticky buttons, small sticks, etc.

Looking on amazon they don't have any purple name brand, but they do have 3rd party vinyl skins you can buy.

Hope this helps!

That's not the same stick my dude.. i mean this one

A few friends (that play with stick aswell) actually recommended me this stick for my 100€ budget. My budget is pretty limited due to the fact that im a student.

It's still a DS4 stick placement, but if you're looking for smaller controllers, you can try the HORI Mini pads for PS4. They're OK for children, although I think they do lack the gyro

Then you can just add a converter to make it work. It also works with all XB360, XB1 and PS4 controllers so that can help saving money on controllers themselves as well.

(new player)

I play SFV on PC with a dualshock 3. I like the controller but the D-pad hurts my thumb so I use my t-shirt to do my movements more smoothly.

I wanted to know if there's an accessory like this kind of D-pad that I can add above my PS3 or PS4 controller.

Otherwise, do you recommand this model ?

My priority is to get a smooth d-pad, precise of course, but not something that burns my thumb like the dualshock 3.

Thank you.

Then look elsewhere. This stick is a modified real arcade pro which retails for $150. I personally have the same stick for my PS4 and it's worth it IMO. My only complaint are the buttons which you can easily swap out for Sanwa anyway.

This is a pretty good price for an arcade stick all things considered. Cheaper sticks tend to be pretty terrible quality.

So I've recently bought SFV. I haven't honestly played a Fighting game such as SFV in a long time, about a decade actually.

I was looking to get a stick for it, but since I'm still a student (College is living money hell), I want to get a budget one.

This one in particular has been interesting me

http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Stick-Mini-PlayStation-4/dp/B014KXMEW4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

I don't want to go above $50 and this one will serve as practice and a bridge to upgrading to a more quality one in the future. I just want something to practice with.

I hate the feel of my Xbox360 controller with SFV. Dashing and doing just combos in general is really hard for me. My thumb slip off the directional stick many times while I'm playing trying to execute combos on even training dummies.

What would you guys recommend for me? Any other budget friendly sticks?

Cheapest and quickest answer I can think of is to get a Venom stick.

https://www.amazon.com/Venom-Arcade-Stick-Sony-Playstation-4/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469130371&sr=8-1&keywords=venom+ps4+stick

The stock stick and buttons are surprisingly good for the price (although I did change them out for Sanwa parts that I already had in another stick for old formats).

This allows you to play on PS4, PC and PS3 out of the box. No messing, and easy to mod.

This product? https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Controller-DUALSHOCK-4-Crystal-Playstation/dp/B015S4JIWS

From the reviews (all good scores, basically troll 1-star ratings) and images, it seems fairly legit. Internal casing looks about right, genuine buttons and sticks.

>What signs can I look for when it arrives to tell if it is real or not?

Compare the buttons to a real DS4, feel the grip of the bottom of the controller and the thumbsticks (again compare). Plug and play, and note the colour that lights up (it should be orange/yellow like a normal controller on charge).

Officially Licensed Playstation Arcade Stick (PS4/PS3) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_ORMMwbZB13STN

Granted it's very basic but it's a great stick to start with that will last you a long time till you move onto something else.

To anyone here who knows anything about building PS4 arcade sticks, I'm looking into building one. I hear taking apart a PS4 controller for the parts might be necessary. Is there a wired controller (3rd party or otherwise) that's known to be easy to take apart? So far, this looks like the most appropriate.

Hey, with you providing great info before I thought to question you on this stick - Any thoughts? I assume with 3rd party software it would work on PC though could be wrong. Thanks :D

HORI RAP4 is going for $150 on Amazon these days, and is compatible with PC and PS4.

Link to the Amazon store.

This is the stick I own. I've got 300 hours into mine and it's still going strong. My only complaint is that it is kind of light-weight so it slides in my lap sometimes, and the door housing the power cord is only held on with two small plastic nubs that seem to break very easily. A rubber band keeps the cord together just fine for me now though.

EDIT : I also suggest trying the program ce360
as that may work to read the input from your already purchased fightstick? I suppose if your PC doesn't recognize the stick at all then it won't help.

Expensive? I can get a keyboard and mouse for like 10$. Easy. And it can be wireless to. Keyboard and mouse is cheaper than a controller. If it wasn't intended for them to allow keyboard/mouse, why put the PS/2 drivers? Also, everyone has a computer so they all probably have a keyboard and mouse. Your points are not that convincing and stating that a kb+m combo is expensive kinda negates all credibility.

KB+M: 15$ https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B7GV802/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1469678708&sr=8-4&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse

Controller: 50$ https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BGA9X9W/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469678765&sr=8-1&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=ps4+controller

That being said, you also lumped in actual modifications in there. There is a difference between plugging in a peripheral and actually modifying the code/peripheral to do things the manufacturer didn't intend for it to do. Keyboard and mouse is used on a computer and aimbots are still against rules on computer games so I don't see how an aimbot is relevant to an input peripheral. At all.

Arcade stick or pad is a preference. There's really no right answer. Personally, I love stick. I picked one up soon after I got into fighting games, because I loved the idea of them and I knew that I would love using one, and I haven't looked back since.

If you are curious about arcade sticks, just keep in mind that they take a few months to get used to. Some people pick it up faster than others, but for me it was a good month before I became accustom to it and then a handful more before it felt truly natural.

As for third-party pad alternatives, I know that Hori ( Fighting Commander 4 & Fighting Commander ) and MadCatz ( FightPad PRO ) both make controllers geared towards fighting games. Personally, that FightPad PRO looks bizarre to me.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS

I also got this and fitted a full Sanwa mod for an extra £40. There are plenty of guides and YouTube videos etc to help you out.

Works out £80-£100 cheaper than a TE. Personally I'm very happy with it.

IIRC a diamond ibuki player plays on keyboard so its not impossible.

My advice to you is to go into training mode and start practicing the motions. Quarter circle, Half circle, Z motion(Dp), etc etc until you feel comfortable doing them consistently. It will take time but eventually you will get it down.

But if you find it awkward still you can get a Hori pad for about $40 right now OR if stick is more of your thing you can get a Hori mini for about $40.

Remember that these will not make you any better at the game. It will take some time to get execution and timings down all while learning the basics of the game.

Cheers~

Qanba Q1: https://www.arcadeworlduk.com/products/qanba-black-q1-carbon-2-in-1-arcade-fighting-stick-ps3-pc.html

Venom Arcade Stick: https://www.amazon.de/Venom-Arcade-Stick-Playstation-lizensierter/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

Both of these have low-quality buttons and joystick. You will probably want to replace them. Between these two, I would recommend the Venom. Its case is larger and stronger.

Qanba Q4 comes with high-quality parts, so you don't have to worry about replacing them. You can get one here: https://www.arcadeworlduk.com/categories/QanBa/Fight-Sticks/

I have the HORI RAP4 Kai. It definitely does the job for me and is cheaper than the TE2. I did change out the buttons for Sanwas but I definitely didn't NEED to as the buttons it came with where fine.

OHH, You're using a 360 pad?!? Literally anything is an upgrade, lol

https://www.amazon.com/Street-Fighter-Arcade-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3/dp/B018HXA6H8/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1497765055&sr=8-2-fkmr1&keywords=madcatz%2Bps4%2Bmini&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Stick-Mini-PlayStation/dp/B014KXMEW4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497765055&sr=8-1&keywords=madcatz+ps4+mini

These are cheap economy sticks. See if you like them, and consider upgrading later.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hori-4961818025127-Fighting-Stick-Mini/dp/B019MMN94A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1506279746&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+fightstick

Obviously it's a beginner thing, if you're super into it I'd recommend spending a bit more. That's not the same one I was thinking of either, I'm remembering a small white thing with green buttons. This was back when SFIV came out though.

Probably this if you're planning on playing SFV.

It doesn't really matter what you use though as long as you feel comfortable with it. nuckledu does really well with a regular DualShock and luffy took 1st place at EVO for USFIV with a PS1 pad

I dunno if this would be your selling point, but found magma red at 45 bucks. Happy gaming!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MD19OI2/ref=twister_B00KUZ7V2K?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

I honestly don’t know what to recommend. I sent my Scuf Vantage in for repair earlier this month, it was suffering from severe dead zones in both sticks that made playing any shooters impossible since you just can’t fine tune your aim when there’s dead zones. My Vantage also suffered from an odd issue where the analog sticks would make clicking sounds without even pushing them down to activate sprint, you could also physically feel like they were hitting something internally, the issue still persisted even after removing the analog sticks and swapping them out for different ones.

I purchased a Nacon Revolution Pro 2 controller while I wait for my Vantage to return from repair, but I also can’t recommend it since The triggers are shaped oddly, so when you guys push them to shoot it kinda sinks your fingers in at an angle and it just doesn’t feel right. The Nacon does offer a lot of customization via the pc software that lets you tweak dead zones and how the controller behaves, but even with tweaking it still feels weird while playing games, also the Nacon isn’t wireless.

Right now I would recommend people to wait if they’re in the market for a pro controller, Astro announced their C40 TR controller which looks great, you can move the modules around, so if you like the stick DS4 stick layout you can have that, but if you like the Xbox one stick layout you can move the analog sticks around and have it set up like an Xbox one controller. The Astro C40 is also the same price as the Scuf Vantage at 200 bucks, only downside is that it releases in March of next year, but if I personally didn’t already purchase a Vantage I would have just waited for the Astro controller, but they didn’t announce it back when I was looking for a new controller. ASTRO Gaming C40 TR Controller - PlayStation 4 - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KF1FB1F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_LTs8Bb8HAR5D0

I just pulled the trigger on the HORI Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai for PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3:

http://www.amazon.ca/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-PlayStation/dp/B00SULMRI4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453223414&sr=8-1&keywords=Hori+Real+Arcade+Pro+4

To top things off, Amazon offered me free trial Prime for 2-day shipping, so I should be getting this within 2 days or so.

Here's my rationale behind getting this stick:

• good reviews, only negative point was not much palm rest room
  
• works between PS3/PS4. Meaning that when I plug into my PC, I'll leave it on PS3 mode and dxinput will just work(which is crucial for SF V operation and not needing to fiddle with 3rd party keyboard mappers)
  
• Since it works on PS4, in the off-chance I bring it to a PS4 console, I am not worried(though I just need to remember to switch it to PS4 mode).
  
  Soon as this thing arrives, I will quickly pre-order SF V on Steam, and hopefully get beta access, and test this sucker.

thanks for the replys, I`ll think i go for a stick because i dont have any controller skills anyway. Thanks for the help, what about this stick? http://www.amazon.fr/Manette-Arcade-Real-Fighting-Stick/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457362167&sr=8-1&keywords=fightstick or should I wait till SF5 support Directinput?

its realy hard to find xinput fightsticks here in Germany and if I order one in USA/Japan the fees are really high.
Edit: Iam very sorry about my bad english

Good question. I've had it with broken PS4 controllers. Gone through three in the past year between my son and I. Really hoping this is going to be as good as the specs say it is https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KF1FB1F?pf_rd_p=c2945051-950f-485c-b4df-15aac5223b10&pf_rd_r=QN7FZ59F2NJ63ABVPAAD

nacon ps4 controller is pretty good a little pricey though

http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-PlayStation-4/dp/B00SULMRI4/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1449742361&sr=1-2&keywords=arcade+stick
It works on ps3, ps4 and pc and its $115. I heard pretty good things about this sick and just bought one today.

Looks horribly uncomfortable to me, and that d-pad looks like it'll only be good for zangief players. But maybe it'll turn out ok, we won't know for sure until it comes out in a few months.

If you want one for Christmas, this is your best (only?) bet: http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1450285498&sr=1-2&keywords=hori+ps4+pad

Depends on how custom you want it to be, if you really want to try your hands on stick and want an easily modable one, get a venom

Its like 70 bucks and you can change almost everyting from it.

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I used a MCZ SE for most of SF4 so upgraded to a Hori RAP4 for SFV, I love it, no issues so far, works great on PS4 and PC, parts are good (though I replaced the hayabusa joystick with a sanwa due to preference) and it's a reasonable price compared to the TEs.

Just a warning though, it has less room below the buttons for your hands, I personally like this, but for people who have used TEs it might seem restrictive

I was looking at the Hori FC4 which looks pretty nice.

Are you a golem? Just kidding you should try this controller https://www.amazon.de/Revolution-Pro-Playstation-Controller-PS4/dp/B01NBKW254 make sure you read some reviews there is also ps4 controllers from hori, razor etc... have fun

you can buy this and use your keyboard https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-KeyMander-Keyboard-Adapter-GE1337P/dp/B00GBK434M

or buy a mixbox https://www.mixboxarcade.com/

or buy a second hand joystick

the cheapest i would go for a joystick is this https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-PlayStation-4/dp/B00SULMRI4/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=rap%2B4%2Bjoystick&qid=1572109846&sr=8-1&th=1

I don't have much expercience with fight sticks either but I have bought this one just for Tekken 7 (and because playing with a pad for a while hurts my hands a lot). The fight stick got a really good reputation and it's also compatible with PC if you plan to get T7 on Steam. I also made this thread a few weeks ago where I asked for fighting stick recommendations. Hopefully it will help you with your decision :)

The xbox analog stick is possibly one of the worst input methods for direction out of all the common options. Even the awful 360 d-pad is better. I think you'll find improvement using anything else. If you want to keep the xbox controller, do yourself a favor and learn to use the dpad on it.

If you want a to get a better controller, for pad get the Hori Fighting Commander. If you want a stick, most people recommend the HRap4 Kai.

I mean I’ve been using the Xbox One pad for years so, if you really want to get into it a stick would be good, Hori makes a good ones, and they also make good pads, so it is really up to you, though never think that what you use hinders your ability and skill, it’s all preference. I did some of the hardest loops/combos in Marvel on a Xbox 360 controller.

Though here some recommendations:

Stick

Pad

You could also look into Qanba stuff, you could go cheaper for fight sticks but the parts (buttons,stick) won’t be as high quality.

The best and cheapest solution is a Dualshock 4 controller, give it a try i personally went from fightsticks back to controllers. If you really wanna get into fightsticks then choose one of these:

1. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06WWMFL56/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2Y60EJ5VI534L
   
   
2. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Obsidian-Joystick-PlayStation-Fighting-Officially/dp/B01N9JMYPX/ref=pd_cp_63_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9ACNS7WRHAX9BGRQ3384
   
   
3. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=pd_cp_63_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9ACNS7WRHAX9BGRQ3384 default buttons and joystick suck so i suggest replacing them with sanwa or seimitsu ( will cost you an extra 35 euros from ebay )

Really if you're looking for something entry level, you can give the Hori Mini a shot. It'll run you about $40 and gives you a cheap taste of whether or not you'll like playing with stick.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B014KXMEW4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1463893276&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=hori+mini&dpPl=1&dpID=41f8NpX1B4L&ref=plSrch

I've got a friend who used it and liked it, though he did complain after a little while the joystick started to feel junky, though that could've just been his particular model. Sticks are great, and personally I find them more comfortable, but I figure if you're used to pad you probably won't want to jump right in with a pricey one.

Looks like the old version, and it seems like they got the exact same picture from here.

To work on PC, you can either connect via USB for generic controller, or USB/Bluetooth via DS4Windows. Nothing is really changed for PC use other than adding the light on top.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS

this is the stick I have. It's just standard and has had no changes and I don't think the parts are sanwa on it so if they are an upgrade I think I may as well do it :)

Thanks

thanks for a quick response on such an old thread, I decided to settle on this As a current gen one, I'm hoping it works with PC/Guilty Gear or I'm going to be pretty sad

Xbox One or PC? With reference to the MKX pad, I'm assuming Xbox One. If PC, the Hori Fighting Commander 4 is the one to beat:

HORI Fighting Commander 4 Controller for PlayStation 4/3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_QBkzyb4XM5CQ8

As far as Fight Sticks go, it's hard to beat anything Hori for price and the Hayabusa Stick and Kuro buttons are truly great:

HORI Real Arcade Pro.V Kai Fighting Stick for Xbox One, Xbox 360, & Windows PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0136JP894/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JDkzybZXA69JS

If you're a fan of Sanwa Denshi parts instead, I personally bought an old, MadCatz Tournament Xbox 360 fight stick on Craigslist for $60 (may be able to find some for less) and installed the Brooks Universal PCB in it. Most of the installation is insanely easy unless you choose to solder the present USB cable to the board like I did. Since this PCB is Universal, it works on all platforms (save Wii U):

https://www.focusattack.com/brook-universal-fighting-board/

Hope this helps!

If he's playing a combination of both new games and older games, via emulators, I would strongly recommend the Dualshock 4 along with the adapter to get it working on PC

The HORI RAP 4 is a solid choice.

If you really want to go cheap the HORI Mini works well enough. If you stick with fightticks you will almost certainly replace it, which I did with the RAP 4. That said, the Mini still serves as my spare if anyone is over.

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Almost anything is better than mayflash.

My personal favorite is this:

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-PlayStation-4/dp/B00SULMRI4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=hori+rap4&qid=1564374806&s=gateway&sprefix=hori+rap&sr=8-1

Both of these are generally considered the best new generation fightpads.

http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1457293002&sr=1-1&keywords=hori+fight+commander

http://www.amazon.com/PS4-PS3-PC-compatible-Fighting-commander/dp/B017QORK8W/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1457293002&sr=1-2&keywords=hori+fight+commander

On a similar note, I recently purchased a DualShock 4 PlayStation controller just for gaming on my Mac. No driver needed; Steam and lots of other games natively support it. It pairs via Bluetooth by pressing the PS and Share buttons for a few seconds. You can also use it wired via USB. I would highly recommend it.

Appears to still be going on. $50 is still high. Need to decide if I like her enough to buy her one for $50...

http://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Glacier-4/dp/B00KVP76G0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420958459&sr=8-1&keywords=white+ds4+controller

Thanks for the heads up.

Ah I see. That's tough, hopefully you can get an arcade style joystick at some point. It will be easier to grip.

This is ridiculously expensive but something like this: Officially Licensed Playstation Arcade Stick (PS4/PS3) by Venom http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_1ohfvb06TDEMK
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_1ohfvb06TDEMK

Will this controller work well for the PC? Do I need to install special drivers or perform obscure steps to make it work?

I would recommend the tekken 7 rap4, same parts but different layout (arguably more ergonomic) and more wrist space AND has headphone plug support.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019ZD1I6C

Check the comment section for more pictures

If you wanted a Hori RAP 4 Kai, it's ~ $210 aud including shipping off amazon uk, pretty cheap considering EB sells it for $237

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PS4-Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501512185&sr=8-1&keywords=Hori+rap

You can also grab a razer panthera for ~ $280 on ebay using discount code 'PLAYER' which provides 20% off ($70); also use cashrewards for an additional $5 off.

However, this offer expires on the 31st.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Razer-Panthera-Fight-Stick-PS4-PS3-PC-PS4-/292159685386?epid=721232054&hash=item440613030a:g:LbIAAOSwjvJZS4Xc

I also switched from pad to stick recently and I can say it's been an enjoyable challenge, the first day was definitely the hardest but it's so addictive.

As my first stick I picked up

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS

I got this one because I didn't want to make too big of an investment in case I didn't like it. The stick is also easily moddable.

If you are just starting out for cheap you can get a hori fight stick mini for about $50.

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Stick-Mini-PlayStation-4/dp/B014KXMEW4

if you want a large one you really cant go wrong with a Qanba drone.

https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Drone-PlayStation-4/dp/B01I0GEDEY/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=174249048211&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9013192&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=4422332991940354643&hvtargid=aud-647006051489%3Akwd-208944826600&keywords=qanba+drone&qid=1554995563&s=gateway&sr=8-1

if its your first stick it may a take a few days to get used to, but i personally use the mini when i travel to a friends house and a larger stick at home.

I have a HORI Real arcade Pro Viewlix with Kuro Buttons I purcahsed it with my preorder of tekken 7 awhile ago I love it.

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Premium-Fighting-PlayStation-Licensed-4/dp/B015HAKX36/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520563405&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=hori+taito+viewlix+rap

I love this one:
https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-PlayStation-4/dp/B00SULMRI4

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai-PlayStation/dp/B00SULMRI4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480646162&sr=8-2&keywords=hori+rap+v this is probably best u can get with 150

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TKLFES8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1462861749&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=Hori+fc4&dpPl=1&dpID=412ypY7GgpL&ref=plSrch

I love it

Try this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465470434&sr=8-1&keywords=venom+stick

Only £65, works with PS3/PS4/PC and is easily moddable. I bought one to test whether or not I could get used to a stick and ended up dropping in some Sanwa parts later once I'd adapted (which was super-easy to do).

Have a read of the reviews, people really seem to like them.

If you enjoy using a pad and wanna switch it up you can try and get one of these. I have no experience with these in particular, however I have heard very good things about the hori fc4.

I got the Dualshock 4 controller in Crystal White since I'm currently using an ancient rumblepad.

Talked to a chat rep who gave me the code when I whined that my pokemon preordering friends already got one 😂

100s of controller that work on pc, don't need a ps4/xbone controller. Search "fightpad pc" (try xbox too) and lots pop up

I have this one for ps4, great pad. Think it should work on PC native too.
http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450829211&sr=8-1&keywords=fight+pad

No man, its toooo old. you want to buy a new stick and not waste money on converters that will add input latency to your setup, there are loads of cheap PS4 sticks on amazon that can be upgraded with Sanwa parts or you can just buy a PS4 stick like Hori. All PS4 sticks work on PC

http://stores.horiusa.com/playstation-4/

alot of people get Hori or just buy a Madcatz

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=pd_sbs_63_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=M761SW4ARDBPMGVV3BVS

(this the cheapest one, but needs to be upgraded with Sanwa parts as the stock ones are shite)
You could easily put artwork on this stick and change the buttons and it would look cool...

I heard the Hori Mini is a pretty good stick for it's low price. It's roughly 40 USD on Amazon.