Reddit mentions: The best playstation 4 controllers

1) Fight sticks. you do not need a fight stick to play street fighter nor do you need one to be good players like SonicFox and Luffy play on playstation controllers, theres no inherent advantage besides a few input techniques and in some cases a stick can give the game a rewarding feel or the game to "click in your head"
Maxalillion goes into this quite in depth i recommend you watch his video on the mater to further your opinion on the matter.


I've been recomending Fightsticks for alot for people on reddit when these threads come up and with friends in person and i have to say due to feed back though you may not want to spend upwards $200-$300 on a stick but sticks in this range particularly the Hori mini4 and Mad catz alpha though built well for beginners will be uncomfortabel to use or leave you longing for more. i would only recommend those sticks if you want you kids to play with you and not on your big daddy stick or you are deathly on the edge or very skeptikal on buying a stick. if you are trying to be a little serious and maybe want to attend arcades it is better to get a higher end stick as they last longer, preform a little better and will be a bit comfortable to use. i personally recommend the Hori Rap4 Kai as it is very high quality and the cheapest one the mad catz TES+( is just as good but more expensive (its the same price right now thats a steal!) And the best of both worlds is the sony venom around 86 us with the conversion and bought on the amazon.uk site very good stick and is easy to mod when you are ready. these sticks are worth the cash if you are serious. Think this through as geting an arcade stick will slightly complicate the learning process of learning a new fighting game especially coming from a game quite different like smash brothers. i personally recommend going to your locals area and see if they have a SFV scene and ask some of the guys there to let you try out their stick or teach you some stuff heres a video on what you will actually be probably using a stick


2)Since you tell me you have come from smash you know fighting games. and you know they are hard to learn and hard to "git gud" so dont be afraid to lose, the best winners are the ones who learn from their loses. the first hurdle is understanding the game you are playing then the technical parts should slowly be introduced.


This is a good start

Vesper arcade (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql2OZoRrfos&list=PLIhWuF_5aE1_xHpDsJD1U2OgU4ZuAZrxp)



Gootecks has a very good series aswell i recomend you watch this second (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AomsfS_8cT8&list=PL13KoUNKKsK2HQ_nWMR9wUqtwrA8k317I)

As for picking your main for a character you want to play. find someone who is fun and who you like regardless of strength. The Capcom character guides are a good place to see what a characters capable of and a little bit about their strengths and weaknesses for a better under standing (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs4LjNCY15zMKfPmf5M5_Ow9en17ur3BR) a youtuber under the name TrueUnderDogGaming has a similar line of videos (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHXrezoc98F7jiQIPgeA9655yxUhRPI4x)



you said you like rashid SF has some insightful videos though they are for the micro complexities for the game they are short and helpful to understanding the game, did i mention he loves rashid hes also not a super duper good player so you will have an easy time relating and understanding him (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3f9nd40434_EJ-CkvC9pmzD6s0exYuaD)


on the sub reddit we also have pages dedicated to characters i recommend you check them out (https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/wiki/index)


like i said play who you want, but at the early stages there are soe chaaracters that are difficult to use, will impeed progress with complicated mechanics and play styles and worst case senario bad habits. if i were you i would consider giving THIS a glance before you make any final decisions



Another good resource to learn the game and im surprised it isnt praised and recommended to beginners is the street fighter V Collectors edition Guide book. it explains street fighter on a very basic level of understanding, explains some very general and important fighting game topics and lingo such as footsies and meaties. it also provides you with Frame data something very important later on in learning street fighter. i 10/10 recommend wish i had something like this when i started 2 years ago you can buy it at amazon.com


And the last place for help is our own sub reddit! you have any questions please come here everyone will help you out!


All the lingo, terminology and explanations so you can talk the talk on the reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/stReetfighter/wiki/iv/glossary


Come on down to Geifs Gym! a sub reddit guide to everything street fighter from basic to technical to mental is converd at geifs gym and is regularly updated. we also host noobie lobbies to test your skills and improve!

Come on down to GEIFS GYM https://www.reddit.com/r/stReetfighter/wiki/v/giefsgym



we also have a beginners guide here too https://www.reddit.com/r/stReetfighter/wiki/v/new_player_guide


just like smash (i did try learning smash) one of the first few things to do is get used to your stick and movement so just play the story and all the single player content we have "so far" and have fun! and welcome to the community. Fight well,Fight hard, Never give up and remember to... #RISE UP

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DualShock 4 Wireless Controller for the PS4

Product Description:

COME one, COME all, yes that's right, COME over here fast! Today we are giving the gamer deep inside you the chance to play the latest games in the most thrilling ways!

What I am holding here in my hand is my BIG, BLACK STOCK of a controller called a DualShock 4. Why should you get excited for a video game controller? It's BIG, it's BLACK, and it VIBRATES. Of course, you also have the choice of experiencing your thrills from a WHITE controller. Who cares about the color, as long as the RIDE is heart racing right?

The DualShock 4 is made of quality fine material, but don't let that stop you from playing as ROUGH as you want! Touch it and feel just how HARD it is. It's so hard it could crack open any oyster and liberate so many pearls that you could receive a pearl necklace eventually!

How you play a game can definitely lead this big bad brute into behaving the way you want to. Play a game in a calm manner and this baby will vibrate in tune to your rhythm. However, play an extremely exciting and rough game like Grand Theft Auto and this devil will shower your entire body with sweet vibrations!

Everything about the DualShock 4's been upgraded from the previous version in the name of efficiency and excitement!

Use your hand to trace the shape of this big black beauty and you'll definitely feel how sturdy it is. Grasp it in your hand and feel the pulsating combination of its texture and hardness. It is also very sensitive and precise, it can react and give you exactly how much tingle you want, from a simple and demure humming vibration to the more gasp inducing, body shaking, explosive rough vibration! Pushing the correct buttons will get you the experience that you want!

This impressive tool of excitement has also improved on its charge efficiency. Not only is it harder, it also lasts longer, up to 8 hours! You can play with it rough for the entire night and it'll keep on vibrating without any discharge at all! You're more likely to faint first due to the stress of being shook all night than this lovely shocker giving in too early! But what if it's spent all of its energy? Don't worry! Simply let it rest for 2 hours and it'll be ready to give you another 8 hour round of pure ecstasy!

Not only does this thing know how to regulate the flow of its vibrations, it can also allow you to go into "private listening" mode, if you're worried that your neighbors might call the cops on you due to your screams of delight! This dude knows when to keep quiet and when to be loud! Simply insert a 3.5mm audio line into this controller's little hole and you can enjoy all the moans and screams from your game directly from your headphones! Nothing is better than hearing the whispers and excitement directly delivered to your ears!

Are you the adventurous type who wants to SHARE? Fear not, because this bad boy is open for sharing! Simply press the correct buttons and you'll be able to take videos or snapshots of your "sessions" together and show it to interested parties who might decide to join in on your fun! You'll have a room full of big black and white vibrating handles of fun!

Have you COME to the conclusion yet of getting yourself a DualShock 4?

Your pleasure, is my pleasure! ;)

Alright based on your answers and the stuff available on amazon.co.uk my suggestions would be:

1. Venom Official PS4 FightStick
   It is cheap (65£, free delivery), but unlike the HORI Fightstick Mini, or the MadCatz Fightstick Alpha it has the size of a proper fightstick (though it is on the smaller side of things when compared to behemoths like the Razer Panthera, or the QanBa Dragon), actually it being a bit smaller makes it a good travel stick to take to offline events with you. It also is build like a tank. It weights at least 2kg, and is made out of thick plastic and metal, so you don't have to worry if you drop it once or twice by accident, or vent your anger over that stupid DP-mashing Ken in Ranked. Also because it is so sturdy it sits very well on your lap or the table (it practically doesn't move no matter how much you are churning the butter as Zangief). It is also lends itself very well to customization. All you have to do is unscrew the bottom plate and you have access to all the parts inside of it and you also can take off the plexi on top of it really easily as it is only held in place by six magnets (imo, changing the artwork on a Venom is as easy as it can get, unlike some other pricier fightsticks, I'm looking at you Razer Panthera).
   The only negative aspect of this stick are the actual parts used in it. The stick-unit itself is actually halfway decent, a little bit more stiff than a Sanwa JLF unit (the most commonly used for playing FGs), but it is still good, especially for beginners. The buttons on the other hand are quite bad, they are ok for your first couple of weeks or months learning to play on a stick, but afterwards you probably want to replace them with genuine Sanwa, Seimitsu, or HORI parts (which, as explained above, is pretty easy and doesn't take any soldering whatsoever). So in the end you get a brilliant beginner stick, that will last you for ages, is really good for traveling with and customizing. The only downside is, that you will probably have to spend another ~16-40£ on genuine Sanwa parts down the line (making the whole stick cost somewhere between 82£ and 105£ after modding it).
   
   
2. HORI RAP 4 KAI
   Now this is where we get into the realm of sticks aimed at enthusiasts and serious players. At 91.71£ the RAP 4 Kai is probably your cheapest option to get a really good, brand new stick where you will have to do little to nothing to get the best experience out of it. It is build very sturdily, except for the cable-compartment cover, which a lot of people claim to be very flimsy on all HORI sticks. Though, I think most of these people are just morons who don't know how to handle their belongings with proper care, as I haven't managed to break the cover on my HORI RAP 5 that I used while staying in Japan, despite using it pretty much every day and taking it to several offline events with me. It has HORI's own Hayabusa Stick and depending on the model, KURO or Hayabusa buttons. They are very good hardware, though some people still prefer to to mod their stick with Sanwa parts, but I honestly think that is just down to preference as both HORI and Sanwa parts preform exceptionally well (FYI most of the arcade cabinets in Japan's Taito-station chain of arcades use Hayabusa Sticks and Kuro buttons right now, instead of Sanwa JLF sticks and OBSF buttons). If you do want to change the parts of the stick the procedure to do so is pretty much the same as with the Venom, though, you won't be able to customize the artwork on the RAP 4 Kai as easily because it actually does not have a plexi-cover on its top side at all, instead the artwork is a sticker glued onto the actual case. Overall this is you safest bet at getting a complete, top-level fightstick in the UK. The models I mention next are pretty much overpriced versions of the Kai with some quality of life improvements aimed at people who are really into fighting games and are ok with spending a lot of money on their stick.
   
   
3. Razer Panthera/HORI Premium VLX
   Both of these sticks are great. Both of them have genuine arcade parts in them (Panthera has Sanwa parts, VLX has HORI Hayabusa/Kuro parts). Both of them are really great when it comes to customizing/maintenance. Just flip open the top-part of the stick and you get to the insides without even unscrewing things. Both of them are also build like absolute tanks. Sturdy plastic, really heavy. But, both of them are terrible when it comes to customizing your stick with custom artwork and both are insanely overpriced (199.99£ for the Panthera and 259.99£ for the VLX), so if you do not think that you are in for the long haul with fighting games, don't waste your money on things that are just marginally better than the two recommendations mentioned before but cost twice or even four times as much.
   
   With that being said I do want to warn you. Getting a fight-stick after playing for some time with a pad is a commitment to relearning a lot of the things you have learned thus far with little to no benefit when it comes to comfort, in some cases even a decrease in comfort (dashing on a stick is mostly considered to be more strenuous and doing advanced movements like Korean backdashing in 3D fighting games is a nightmare on stick compared to pad). At this point in time fighting games are usually created with pad players in mind so the controls on a pad are usually laid out in a very ergonomic way (and if they still don't fit you, you can remap buttons easily to fit your preference). These days using a stick does not really have any tangible benefits to using a pad, other than it looks cooler and is considered by some to be the "true way of playing fighting games". This can be proven easily by looking at the top SFV players right now, out of the current Top 32 players in CPT eight use a pad to play and two of them are currently ranked 1st and 3rd respectively on the global leader-board (though, Punk does use stick from time to time).

People might shit on me here for sounding like a shill in a moment but I promise you I've got no affiliations with either of the products I will mention here. As much as that may mean nothing to you, it's the truth and I wanted to at least say it.

And I went on that ramble above because the first thing I'm going to recommend to you is buying KontrolFreaks, QCQ for left and a comfortable "ultra" for the right. These will let you control the sticks with more space to move, you will be able to make smaller adjustments without a (significant) loss to your ability to make fast ones.

Second, buy a "Strike Pack F.P.S", it will add easily assignable paddles to your controller as well as turning it into an actual wired control with actual wired controller input latency (plugging in a USB normally does not make it wired, it's still working wirelessly and simply also charging). Note though that this thing has "mod" capability (as far as I can tell, straight up cheats), do not even think about using them, you could probably get banned for it. Just leave it in "tournament mode" and all "mods" are 100% disabled and it just uses the paddles. I play puppeteer and you should too, if you don't the following recommendation wont apply to you, but you'll get the idea. You're going to set the left paddle to X (jump) and the right paddle to Δ (swap weapons). This is going to open some doors for you, now you can aim while you're jumping in the air (actually aim), this is going to let you get around the map faster with better movement/jumps as well as do things like hopping above entrances and blasting the cap of other players. It's also going to let you swap weapons while you are aiming in preparation to use them as well as while sliding, this is vital to shotgunning/snipping effectively. The goal here is that the only time your fingers leave the sticks is if aiming is literally not important at all, like when reloading or emoting. You can totally go buy a custom controller if you want to, but when it breaks it's broken and you either have to replace the whole thing or get it sent in for repair, with this attachment though, if it dies it's not expensive to replace (and it's well built imo, I'd imagine some kind of internal failure is more likely than paddle failure) and if your controller dies you can just pop it off and put it on the new one. To me it seems like the cheaper and better option, but if you really like custom controllers or have tons of cash maybe that's the better choice, your call, either way you need paddles.

Next, put your sensitivity on at least 7, I would put it to 8. Relax, relax, now that you've got your control freaks on this will feel more like 5 or 6 (or 7-8 if you jumped to 10). I play on 10 with them, but I never would without them. This is going to let you have that mobility you need to improve, it'll stop you from breaking your neck every time a shotgun ape jumps over you, and with your better ability to actually use all angles of the stick you'll be able to track these things. It is going to take you time to adjust to this, you've got new weird sticks, your sensitivity is bumped, and you've moved buttons you used to use your thumb for. It's gonna be wack, it's gonna make you want to return everything, just hold on and take a breath. Now take another, because over the next couple weeks as you relearn how to play you'll find yourself pulling moves and thinking, "huh, never could have done that before." It will be worth it. Oh and make sure you have traction on your boots, I'm sure (based on your sensitivity) that you hate this perk, but now is the time to learn to use it because it opens the door for your improvement and the reason you hate it is because you haven't stepped through that door.

This is going to give you a higher mechanical skill cap, you will, on paper, be able to do more and play better. The next few weeks of practice are about rising to meet that cap, it really won't take all that long and the new mechanical skill cap will be worth it. The rest after that is learning to take what you already have ("My strengths are map/radar/audio awareness, quick reactions and outsmarting the opponent") and implementing those strengths better in the game now that you have a larger tool box (faster/constant aiming and mobility), that will take longer, that's the infinite grind, but at least you won't be handicapped by your controls.

EDIT: If you think paddles are not critical, go ask any PC player if they would willingly take their hand off of their mouse every single time they wanted to jump/reload/swap weapons. You will be laughed out of the room. Paddles alleviate most of that issue, don't sleep on them.

Ok first off hi! I'm beatlemnkyhuman a.k.a Jesus nice to meet you.

You don't need a stick

It's a luxury. Sticks are pricey and custom sticks can get really pricey. I've heard of players buying sticks and never using them so some buy them just for the swag but it is no longer needed.

Luffy won evo and went pro with a ps1 pad and he still uses a ps1 pad.

Punk went pro on pad, nuckledu is pro on pad coolkid plays pad.

you no longer need a stick

A stick will not make you better.
Contrary to popular belief a stick is not magic.

You will still have to work. In my personal experience, it took me 3 months or so to get over pad and get used to stick. If you did not grow up with a stick then there's no reason.

Next thing, if you did grow up with a stick then your memory maybe rose tinted in that your remembering being better then you ever were. Sticks take work just like pad.

If after all this you still want a stick:

I recommend focus attack for custom art work and big e customs for custom designs as that's what I use

[the te2 is the pro standard. Amazing stick, easy to mod. Sanwa buttons and sanwa stick.] (https://www.amazon.com/Fighter-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-4/dp/B018AW405K/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543512575&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=madcatz+te2%2B&dpPl=1&dpID=41vrhKHqO9L&ref=plSrch)

some players prefer the hori rap4 with hori parts. It's cheaper so the stick is a little more loose. Hori parts fully and difficult to mod

the qanba drone is seen as a cheap alternative. Sanwa buttons i think and if not it can be modded easily. Known to not last

The qanba dragon is a monster of a stick that goes for 300 and the obsidian goes for 200.

EDIT: The razr panthera is a pro favorite as well, impossible to mod the artwork but an amazing stick for 200

If you want to go custom from the ground up then you can do allfightsticks. Com which will give you a sleek heavy steel frame or marvelous customs.

Each of those custom sticks will run you 300 plus.

You can even go wood frame which may be even more expensive.

Good luck.

Using numpad notation: (5 = neutral, 6 is toward the opponent, 8 up, etc.)

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IAD: 8 6 6 and 8 4 4 are pretty inefficient try:

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IAD forward: 9->6 (wait a little in between, going back to neutral before 6. the cleaner/faster you get with this the closer to the ground you'll be when you dash - which is preferable because it gives less time for the opponent to react)

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IAD backward: 7->4 (again neutral in between)

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Other people have pointed out the shortcut for airdashing - I've always found those kinda hit or miss, so i prefer the above. Up to you though.

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Long Jump: input: 2 8 (neutral) or 2 9 (forward) or 2 7 (backward)

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TBH i don't really use this as much as I should(? idk i just play for fun and self-improvement, i'm not competitive), but it's just a practice thing - getting used to your controller. To practice, a good setup is to see if you can do a move/combo (or in this case jump) all the way from one side of the screen to the other (multiple times if it's a far-moving move) without messing up. IAD is the perfect example, start from one corner and IAD repeatedly until you get to the other corner. Do it until you can go the whole screen without missing the input. (don't just grind for it though, probably best to do this as a warm-up for 20 mins or less per day for a bit)

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If you're open to getting a different controller (it's not required at all, but it may be more comfortable or more consistent for you, it is for me), I really like [this one for ps4](https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537541528&sr=8-1&keywords=hori%2Bfighting%2Bcommander&th=1) and while i don't personally use the xbox variant [here it is](https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Officially-Licensed-Microsoft/dp/B01MSEPQ55/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1537541528&sr=8-2&keywords=hori+fighting+commander) Fightsticks are really nice too, but they're expensive.

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Let me know if you have any other questions or if I didn't explain something properly, i'm happy to help.

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Cheers

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Edit: Idk what's happening with the formatting, that usually works :/

I think everyone's pretty united on this: you don't need a stick to be good at fighting games or to get the whole experience. I'm a kb/m guy who's been playing PC for over 20 years so controllers feel weird to me. I got a stick the day after I picked up SFV and decided to get serious about it. No handheld controller was going to work for me. I also remember having issues with blisters on my thumb and the like that I didn't want to get into again (this was back in Alpha 3). Hence the choice for a stick.

The first stick I got was this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NOAWLBE/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I don't know where you're from but either this brand (Mayflash) or an equivalent will be available. It's moddable, easily, and the construction is very good. Quality stuff. Art is replaceable as the plexiglass top is only held in by some magnets. This thing was built as an awesome first stick with great customization options. The alternative one is this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468837173&sr=8-1&keywords=licensed+stick

They're the same thing but I don't know if the bottom one works on PC. The Mayflash one definitely does. Same chassis, much the same internals but compatibility might be slightly different.

I have since moved on to a Hori RAP4 Kai:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Again, using that on PC with no issues. Just need to drop x360ce into the SFV folder and run it once to detect the stick. Works like a dream from that point forward. If I ever buy a PS4 I know it'll work fine as well.

Hope this was helpful :)

I cannot attest to the quality of Mayflash fight sticks. If you're looking at something like this then I'll say I bought something very similar for the PS2, I'm talking probably the same stick even, and the build quality was very poor. The buttons specifically were so stiff they were hard to press. I bought it and a converter to play a Wii fighting game, but the stick's quality bummed me out enough to quit. If I had played the game as much as I wanted, maybe the buttons would have loosened up... or maybe I would have accidentally broken the thing.

However a stick like that would work on PC. I mean, it would plug in, and the buttons and stick would function. It'd just be a cheap, potentially crappy/easily broken stick. I bought my PS2 stick like 6 years ago so maybe the build quality is better now.

If you want my recommendatiom, I'd buy a regular pad like the PS3/PS4 pad or 360/One pad. The idea that fighting games are best played on sticks is a myth; many pro players in every game use pad and dominate. Many theorize that pads are actually superior overall to sticks. In fact, the penultimate controller for fighters seems to be something called a "Hit Box" which replaces the stick entirely with buttons (very similar to a keyboard at that point). What it boils down to is using something comfortable... which I worry the mayflash stick won't be.

Anyways, I'd recommend a pad because they're just as good as sticks, if not better, and they can be used for multiple types of games. The best pad users seem to like the PS3 style pad, which would be the one I recommend since its the cheapest with a decent dpad... though, personally, when I use pad, I use the analog sticks. If you REALLY want a stick, the only quality ones I know of are in the $150 range... stuff like this. It's possible to buy a cheapo stick and upgrade it with nicer parts, and its not necessarily all that hard, but that's a lot of hoops to jump through to play DBZ.

You can get a emulator front end for pc which works great it's also much easier to play mame aka arcade games on pc vs retro pie and obviously youu have more storage, like someone said above stay away from the packages of controllers, first those things should be 5 bucks a piece, not 80 for 3. Plus you don't want nes controller if you're emulating because you have access to so many consoles and with different controller layouts it's best to get one to suit your needs perfect. If you want to go cheap I'd honestly suggest this controller you can find it cheaper usually around 10 bucks PS3 Versus Controller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0051MQK6K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_XgOCzb45T1KKH
I use it as my player two but honestly you'd be better off getting a couple of those. But since you're willing to spend 80 on garbage might as well spend it on something quality? I'd get one of the above controllers, and do what I did and get the best of the best for yourself Imo this is the best

HORI Fighting Commander 4 Controller for PlayStation 4/3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_tjOCzb8PD2QKE


Both work on retropie as well and I use them to emulate on my pc and retropie and I couldn't be happier.

The Mayflash V2 is literally the exact same stick, but half the price (or $25 less if you get it from the Amazon UK site through BaconGlock's method) and minus the PS4 compatibility. Feels great as is, and is super easy to mod. Shipping is cheap, too, cause Amazon is awesome.

Although, it is 360/PS3 compatible, so if all you need it for is Street Fighter, it should work just as fine on SFV on PC (because it has X-Input support) or PS4 (because I'm sure PS3 sticks are backwards compatible with SFV, right?).

EDIT: Also heads up, /r/Fighters or the FAQ/General Hardware Topic on this sub are probably better places to ask stick questions, since mods tend to delete general hardware question topics.

So I'm not sure why, but the Soul Calibur stick is 93 bucks right now. It's a pretty good stick.

As far as I know, it's completely identical to this stick. I've got this one and it's pretty good. Hori's Hayabusa stuff isn't generally the first choice, but it's definitely good enough.

For the record, you can change the artwork if you really want to. It's a bit time consuming, but an easy DIY project. This is mine. The hardest part is really just removing the old artwork as it's bonded to the metal. After that it's pretty basic.

Fighting games have very high learning curves, but they are extremely rewarding.

I suggest PC if you can run it.

I recommend you take a look @ some of these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd9sEB6ku14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AomsfS_8cT8

(part 2 and 3 too)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3W4zpsOmXpqLG1V5faspQ

https://www.youtube.com/user/moonlitearthx14

If you are willing to learn what is shown here, then you should have some fun.

Fightsticks are not neccesary and will not make you good. BUT they are very fun to use and some aspects are easier IMO.

Heres some solid ones with professional parts:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SULMRI4/ref=s9_simh_gw_g63_i2_r?
ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=0TSMZNQ22HDJQMP9QCKM&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2437869742&pf_rd_i=desktop

http://www.amazon.com/Fighter-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-4/dp/B018HXA6H8/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1458691360&sr=1-2&keywords=alpha

Heres some great guides
https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/comments/4bif5p/beginner_to_fighting_games_with_some_questions/d19o3vu?context=3

Feel free to ask questions.

What’s your limit per se and your systems you want to use it on? Reason I ask is I know a couple really good budget sticks. (Mayflash F300, Mayflash F500) but the best budget stick in my opinion that’s actually on sale right now I’d recommend the Qanba Drone. Easy to mod too (like I modded mine out with Sanwa parts and Hayabusa buttons) here’s the Amazon link of it while it’s down in price at $69 https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Drone-PlayStation-4/dp/B01I0GEDEY/ref=sxin_1_ac_d_rm?ac_md=3-2-cWFuYmEgZHJvbmU%3D-ac_d_rm&crid=361Z42RGDGX46&keywords=mayflash+f300&pd_rd_i=B01I0GEDEY&pd_rd_r=fbb14bab-5c40-4ca6-99fc-0da2a5f86dac&pd_rd_w=Bs9Pl&pd_rd_wg=0tyq3&pf_rd_p=d29bc9bc-49e2-46b8-bc05-387917c341ec&pf_rd_r=C6GTT35K40VEH3BV43Y0&qid=1567897331&s=gateway&sprefix=Mayflash+f3%2Caps%2C158

Also if you’re willing to go up about $30, then this is a great stick on sale too and actually comes with Hayabusa matte buttons (which are great buttons and would mean you don’t have to mod it too much if you like those. I personally love Hayabusa buttons too) https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-Soul-Calibur/dp/B01A8L6O0U/ref=sr_1_1?crid=NAN7Q46MA42W&keywords=soul+calibur+fight+stick&qid=1567897678&s=gateway&sprefix=Soul+calibur+figh%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1

> no problem, i also played melee for about a year and then transitioned to this game, this is my first sf game. I love melee but i can honestly say i haven't looked back

buy a fight commander 4, aside the default ps4 controller imo its the best pad to play on, good features , good quality and the 6 button layout is perfect for SF games. also the controller is not TOO expensive

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468827278&sr=8-2&keywords=hori+fighting+commander


heres a less feature filled on, but equally good

https://www.amazon.com/PS4-PS3-compatible-Fighting-commander-14210671/dp/B017QORK8W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468827278&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+fighting+commander

If you want a quick lowdown on whats not on the cheaper model is, its missing the repositional d-pad as well as the dpad diagonal sensitivity adjuster (this helps for more rigid controls or looser controls for easier circular motions). The shape is also slightly different but thats not a biggy :)

I don't live in the UK but a quick search turned this up:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

A RAP 4 Kai for 88.92 pounds including free shipping to UK. Wouldn't this be better? Literally a better stick for the same price.

Also my thoughts are that unless you're looking for some very specific modifications that even better off-the-shelf sticks (Rap 4 Kai, Razer Panthera, Qanba Obsidian etc) don't come with, modding a stick overall doesn't seem to be worth it. Most of the money you save from the initial price difference is re-invested into the modding process, and what little left of the remaining savings doesn't seem to be worth the extra effort and time needed to learn and complete the modding process. Not to mention the fact that cheaper fightsticks often feature lower quality casings as well.

Think about it this way: good fightsticks are already so expensive for the average gamer so like any other manufacturer of products, they'd want to strike a good balance between profits for themselves and affordability for consumers in other to increase the Return-On-Investment for their IP (which is essentially coming up with the design of the fightsticks).

If it was economically feasible to sell it for that much cheaper, they'd have done it already.

No I actually know how to use it just fine. I’ve got scripts, access to a PC, had no issues with the coding and flashing. No technical issues. But it’s overkill. Most of what it can do better players already do anyway. And it feels like they do it better than the device does. There’s a lot you can script but why do any of that when you can just practice and achieve similar results? Then there’s input lag. I’ve seen videos of players running it with no problems. Me? I consistently had input lag on every game. When it wasn’t lagging it was fine, but it was 50/50 and that’s annoying enough to leave it shelved. Maybe I have too much EM interference but I’m not going to create a Faraday cage just to play a video game. If the key to doing a good part of what I’d want it for is just developing muscle memory and it’s laggy then that’s not enough to make me fall in love with it.

I also have the programmable Strike Pack. I like that device quite a bit although it lacks the flexibility of the CM. It also has less input lag than a CM, which is what made me feel the CM was clunky. What I don’t like is its poor fit around my controller. If it fit better I’d use it more often. Maybe it works better with older PS4 DS4s? But it’s interesting enough to tempt me to buy a Scuf or one of the other pro kits

If you’re looking for peripherals that will really give you an edge on console you’re better served by a Xim, a mechanical keyboard, a gaming mouse, and a large surface to use the mouse with. It won’t give you snap shotting or super quick zoom and shoot but it makes every shot more precise. That alone will put you ahead of even the best controller jockeys. The trade off is you need a desk or coffee table setup appropriately.

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well then theres the Venom arcade-stick. dunno about availability in US, but hes pretty popular in europe. a friend of mine has one and hes more than happy with it.

i'd probably save 50$ more though and go for a HRAP4 if i were you.

the qanba-sticks are popular, too

I've only really had experience with a couple of Hori sticks and the latest Madcatz te, as well as some custom ones I modded. You have a lot more options on PC, but as for quality I'm not really sure. I know there are some Qanba PC sticks for around $80, but I can't vouch for the quality, although the ratings are pretty good on [Amazon] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BXPIO1S/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_YWr7wbJ230K0F)

The buttons and stick might not be of the greatest quality, but it's a good start and I assume some of the high ratings come from being [easy to mod] (https://youtu.be/FllbddE4zes) but for that you'd need to buy new buttons and new stick.


If I were in your position, I'd opt for getting something of decent quality now with the intent to mod it later when you really get a feel for using a stick and get your execution down. And if I didn't want to mod, I'd wait a bit longer or mow a couple lawns and opt for a nice [Hori] [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SULMRI4/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_y8r7wb9MQ71NQ) or a better quality [Qanba] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007SGGLZW/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_39r7wb7K0TS7Y)
Either way, there's still a learning curve when switching peripherals so keep that in mind

In terms of games to play, Street Fighter V or Guilty Gear Rev are where you want to be. Street Fighter, despite all the complaints people have, is the game with the biggest playerbase, so you will find the most resources for that game. Guilty Gear has some of the best ingame resources for learning, and plenty of out of game resources so it also an excellent place to start.

As for prehipherals, if you want to try out stick on PC, I've heard the Qanba Carbon ($60) is a good place to start. I personally ordered one last week, can't report on the quality until it comes in, but the reviews are good. If you want a controller and are willing to learn dpad, the Hori Fighting Commander ($40) is the best pad on the market, I own one and it feels/plays fantastic. Also the fighting commander has ps3/ps4 support if you want to play in tournaments (most are played on ps4).

People who use stick are usually the guys who grew up playing fighting games in the arcade- so it's something they are used to. However not all notable pros use stick- sonicfox for example uses pad, and he won winterbrawltwith with it. So I guess if you feel like you will be more comfortable using a stick, then go with it- but don't think that it's required to play well.

Personally, I use The hori fighting commander . This works for both pc and ps4- they have an Xbox version as well. I chose this as my input device because I grew up playing fighting games on a pad and because it's easy to transport.

I don't know much about sticks, but look into hori and qanba brands. What I do know about sticks is their users recommend spending a bit more rather than buy a cheap stick and needing to replace it other on.

Here's some vids that can help you decide
https://youtu.be/jGCG5CwEoG8
https://youtu.be/PBezo--eYiQ

Just remember- it all comes down to personal preference. Good luck on you're choice and maybe we'll run into each other in ranked

I recommend going on amazon and seeing if there's and 3rd party sellers that are selling new. If you live in Canada, you can try kijiji, or craigslist if you live in USA. It shouldn't be too hard to find, especially if you're looking on sites like ebay. I know you said you don't like to buy used, but if it's from a reputable seller, and they have a good refund policy, then you got nothing to lose.

Or if you want an actual good 3rd party PS3 controller, try this:

https://www.amazon.com/Horipad-FPS-Plus-PS4/dp/B0106XFCPI/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1538624918&sr=1-3&keywords=hori+ps3&dpID=410GJOh2lSL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

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Hori is a very trusted brand. Highly recommend them.

For anyone looking for a ps4 pad to play with or use for dual modding, the Hori FC4 is down to 35 bucks on amazon: Link.

Link to my original post

I guess that even though the post was getting upvotes, as it is a thing one needs to play Street Fighter games at a price that people would surely like to know about, the mods determined it be relegated to the daily thread where it may fall through the cracks for some readers. Ah well. Hopefully anyone interested in a useful deal will happen to see this in the next eleven hours.

Hope the mods will consider allowing people to post peripheral deals in the future, as I don't think they come by often enough to clog the main feed. Just my opinion, of course.

That stick looks almost identical to my first stick, and here's the best way to look at it;

Are you wanting a stick to see if you like/want to use arcade sticks over controllers? Not a bad deal

Are you wanting a stick to actually play stuff with? This stick is trash (the parts are so cheap that it'll break within weeks, not to mention no weight to it so it'll slide around constantly). If you end up liking how a stick feels and plays, you'll pretty quickly wish you had a better one.

The cheapest stick out there that's solid for the long term would be the HORI RAP 4. It's a great stick that I used for a long while, and would still be using if I didn't want a heavier stick and grabbed the Madcatz TE2 stick.

I'm only at vindicator with alisa but I'll throw in some suggestions - Take them with a grain of salt:

In your first match I noticed that you did b4,3 at the wall, ff1+2,2 or f4,3,4 are solid replacements that do more damage and are less linear

I saw you do ws1,2, then 4 - be careful with that as people duck it very often and are usually blocking already by that point. At higher ranks you will get launched for it if the other person notices a pattern. Only the ws1,2 is guaranteed.

Awesome use of iWr2, and nice job floating chloe out of cali roll with ws1,2 I actually didn't know you could do that. I usually use b2,4. (this also works against Eddie and his relax stance)

A safer combo on counterhit 4 is (micro dash), b1, ws1,2 b2, 4. The d3 one I say you using is fairly linear and can whiff

I noticed that you didnt use the f3,2 1+2 2 (then optional DES close with 1+2), Thats a great combo for keepout and punishing

Also learn KBD, Alisa absolutely needs it, she is a poke heavy character and you have to be able to space yourself from your opponent well. She crumbles at range 0 imo. When I learned KBD I practiced it after the round was over just to ingrain the motion.

I saw in someone elses post that you have trouble doing it on your pad, I've used this one : [Hori Fighting Commander] (https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_63_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=KX7N7CZ0874T81FJMFHM&dpID=41enwJFFLHL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=detail&th=1) and it felt much better for backdashing than a DS4 (for reference I'm 6'3 so I have big hands too)

Thats all I can think of for now, I'm planning on posting some of my matches up this week too, I play Alisa pretty differently so maybe you'll find something useful or just watch me get bodied. Also that chloe was obnoxious lol.

Why does linus act like PC gamers can't game causally?

its really easy for any one interested:

1. buy a PC for the cost of a current gen console
   using tools like;
   
   PCpartpicker,logical Increments,/r/buildapc,/r/buildapcsales if you need help building consult; Carey Holzman,NZXT's guide or /r/buildapc
   
   
2. pick your OS:
   
   Either; Windows 7/8.1 or linux/Steam OS or for advanced users hackintosh with OSX or Windows 10 preview.
   
   for a smooth console like UI use big picture mode in steam or Steam OS for Linux
   
   
3. Pick for Favorite method of control:
   
   The keyboard/mouse,Xbox one and Xbox 360 all have native support for advance user the PS4/PS3 controllers will need rebinding software.
   
   
4. Find some causal games you enjoy
   
   bonus Find some Roms and boot up an emulator to play all the classics' of your childhood
   
   Edit: words

Those extra 2 buttons are for all punches and all kicks. You don't actually need them, as you can press all three buttons at once instead, but if you find that difficult to do, those buttons are useful for that.
You can also map other things to those buttons, like throws or whatever, if you want.

Honestly, learning to play with just 6 buttons from the get-go is pretty neat.

My only gripe with that stick is the size and weight of it. You'll want it to rest firmly on your lap/desk when you play. It should never ever move when you do sudden inputs.

I have this arcade stick, and the only gripe I had with that was the Kuro buttons on it, which I have switched out with Sanwa buttons. I recommend it, but know that it will take you a while to get used to a stick. You'll suck for days if not weeks.

The sticks aren't too bad to get used to but I think the controller overall is a bit too short height-wise (ie. where I rest the palms of my hands to where my fingers lay over the triggers). On Xbox 360 my fingertips fit perfectly on the triggers so that my fingertips were on top of the buttons, but on PS4 my fingertips are almost completely off the trigger buttons (ie. having off them past the first knuckle) and I either have to move my fingers back so I can press the L1 or R1 buttons or I have to keep my fingers completely off the side of the controller so my fingertips lay on L2/R2.

It's not awful for stuff like Shadow of Mordor (where time slows down when I need to use L2/R2) but I think I'll have to buy this controller in order to play FIFA comfortably.

Arcade world uk sell decent sticks and parts, generally Qanba are a pretty good way to go. There's a good deal on the Q4 which is a a little over budget but honestly its not a bad deal for a new stick.

Here's a Qanba if you're only looking to use it only on pc Be careful as it doesn't use Sanwa or Seimitsu parts, so the reliability of the controls may be a cause for concern.

Here's a Hori stick thats a little over budget but very much will suffice. Just be sure to use it in PS3 mode if you're on PC.

Otherwise look on ebay for second hand sticks, look for Hori and some Madcatz TEs.

If you're just getting into it there's a few budget minded sticks that you can go for like the fightstick alpha or the Hori mini. I wouldn't recommend them if you really want to get into fighting games, but if you get the for under £40 its not a bad thing to invest in to see if you're interested.

I don't have that but I just got the version previous to that and one thing to realize is that if you've already been playing with the PS4 controller for a bit you're muscle memory is going to be thrown off a ton. You will be worse before you're better.

I'm starting to get used to it now and starting to realize the pros. It has a better d-pad I can use more accurately, better button layout for fighters with all 6 buttons up front and the right triggers make for easy EX/V-reversals, and overall more comfortable. I prefer using it but I wouldn't say I'm appreciably better at the game having it.

1. Yes there is a ps4 controller in the works made by Ben Heck and pre existing ones for other platforms. http://www.benheck.com/pausing-single-handed-controller-sales/.
   
   
2. If you have a prosthetic that you feel confident to use with a joystick you can get a joystick https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B014KXMEW4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1469837675&sr=8-3&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=playstation+4+joystick&dpPl=1&dpID=41f8NpX1B4L&ref=plSrch&dpPl=1&dpID=41f8NpX1B4L&ref=plSrch. Controls on PS4 are mapable on the console itself and PC is always mapable wether in game or third party.
   
   
3. You can also get a ambidextrous mouse type ps4 controller here http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/1/AGS/AGS-onehand/one-hand-controller.htm. These are $300-400 though but can be used on all platforms from ps2 to ps4, xbox to xbox one, and PC.
   
   
4. For PC the Razer tartarus has good reviews for people needing one handed gaming on pc as it functions like a traditional mouse with the second "joystick" placed at the thumb. Unfortunately its made for left handers (you didnt say which hand). https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ZTRW00C/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469839322&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=razer+tartarus&dpPl=1&dpID=41FIAznn6JL&ref=plSrch
   
   Good luck in your journey. Cheers!

I have the PS4 FC4 coupled with a Brook converter. The FC4 allows changing the orientation degree of the D-pad which is awesome to enhance directional comfort. Will this Xbox FC version include the same feature? I see it is also missing the extended left palm rest which is also really comfortable.

"This pad is a pure performer with the industry's best D-Pad" - uh we'll see about that...

IMO this is the best fight pad to date; great build quality and useful features: https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1486249887&sr=1-4&keywords=HORI+Fighting+Commander

As far as prices on the Amazon US go:

The Hori Fighting Commander 4 has universally positive reviews, is compatible with PS4, and now it's discounted to $30.

The Qanba Q1 is a very good budget choice for sticks, costs $80, proprietary but good quality parts (can be modded later), and is compatible with PS4 SFV in legacy mode.

For higher-end, there is the Hori RAP 4 for $150, PS4 compatibility, quality Hori stick and buttons, pretty much the best you can get ($200 on MadCatz TE2 is not worth)

Or you could try the used route, I bet there are many people selling their old but good sticks on eBay because of PS4.

So, I'm going to be trying to get into the game and having been looking into picking up a Hori Real Arcade Pro (Unless there's a better choice around that price range). I'm going to be playing on PC and was just wondering how setting that up with the drivers and everything will be. I'm really excited to be joining the SF community, I've always watched with interest from the Smash Bros side of venues and figured now would be a good time to bridge the gap and try it out! I'm also lucky to have a few friends who are willing to teach me the game and hopefully be practice partners as I learn the ins-and-outs of true 2D fighters.

The most important part of shot gun aiming, on a controller, is the ability to put jump onto your left hand, meaning you can aim and jump at the same time. Taking your thumb off the analogue to jump and then swiping the stick to try and aim again is really un-efficient way of aiming.

You will need: A scuff, battle beaver, XBOne Elite controller, doesn’t matter. Personally I use the FPS Strikepack Dominator, for my PS4, and it’s absolutely amazing. Heres the link to what I use.

Using the FPS I am able to set my left paddle/button on the back of the control to jump. So i can jump using my left ring finger without taking my right thumb off of the aim stick. It took me 3 days or about 8hours to get used to the extra button, but without a doubt, my aiming and shotgun confidence has improved massively. Judging on my aiming vs others, Id say as a rough guess that about 30-40% of players on console have the extra button. And these buttons are legal in MLG. If your Xbox, maybe look at an Xbox Elite controller, or PS I highly recommend what I use. Or just get a Scuff, but personally I think they are way to expensive for what they are.


This video will show you an example and is what convinced me... Skip to 3:30 to see it in use

For the price of a Scuff, I bought myself a brand new PS4 v2 controller in Steel Black, the FPS Strikepack Mod, and I can replace either one if they break and will still have spent less.

Speaking from experience and from other people telling me. Its best not to get a "beginner" stick. All I've done is switch out the parts to the stick since I've got my mayflash f300. Its essentially not even the same stick. It's best to save up the money for a real good stick you'd be happy with. I recommend Hori or Qanba

1. Playstation 4 Controller My secret Santa got me a Sony Blu-Ray player for the Christmas exchange. With a PS 4 Controller I can access hundreds of PS 3 games to play.
   
   
2. Rise of the Tomb Raider for Xbox 360. I am a huge Tomb Raider fan. My current PC can't run the most recent game but I do have a Xbox 360.
   
   
3. Skylanders Trap Team: Kaos Trap. I am a big fan of Skylanders. The Kaos Trap is the last trap I need. Still need the [Light Expansion] (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QU506JY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2U7TJSOOKGSUC&coliid=I10SQW2SJNJLYI) $70 and Dark Expansion $90 but those are way to expensive.
   
   
4. The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword for the Wii. I have the older Wii system and I love the Mario and Zelda games. This one is high on my wish list but just to expensive for me currently.
   
   
5. Light Blue Yarn Yoshi Amiibo. I don't have a Wii U or the game but this Yarn Yoshi is just so cute and adorable. You can't just say no to such cuteness. I want one for my collection.
   

I used this one for awhile but I don't like it too much -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TKLFES8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is the one I'm using currently -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HT2TTBC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Years ago I used to just use a PS1/PS2 pad with a converter.

Honestly I haven't really found a pad I like all that much. Sega Saturn controller or something like that would probably be the best but yeah.

I'm looking for a stick to play UMvC3 and SFV on PC. This mayflash stick is pretty cheap and is the amazon recommended one, but my buddies who play the games recommend this hori one. I've used the xbox/pc version of the stick that my buds recommend and I really like it, but I want to know if it's worth it. Any suggestions?

It's okay. I sometimes fuck myself up by hitting the middle of button of the DS Pad (cause I fat finger it), but other than that it's just like any other pad. I'm hoping they port PS3 TE sticks for the PS4 SF5, but I'm not holding my breath. PS: Battery life blows on the DS4.

For setting it up at events, it's not complicated as long as people disconnect the DS4 that they connected. Pretty much someone else can make it super complicated for everyone else.

Edit: If you're looking for a alternative pad you could maybe look into something like this http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8/

It was on sale the other day for $29, so you could either get it asap or wait for it to go on sale again.

Yes, yes, and yes. They also make this controller that I used to make the jump in March. I very quickly got used to the newer one though, as I loved the kitchyness of the touchpad and the speaker and the motion aspects. Like, in Infamous: Second Son, you have to shake the controller and move it around to spray graffiti. Its so cool. But here is the controller that feels like the Xbox one: https://www.amazon.com/Horipad-FPS-Plus/dp/B0106XFCPI/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1498607773&sr=1-1&keywords=Horipad+fps

EDIT: Also, I literally sold my new PS4 and bought a Pro like a month after and the difference even on a non 4K tv is worth the extra hundo. The FPS improvements are night and day in some games.

I see both sides of the argument. Some gamers have disabilities and want to play on console, so they need adapters that let them play and then there are others who are not disabled and use these adapters, just to gain an advantage. I'm sorry, but you can't disable the feature altogether. The backlash from disabled gamers that prefer to play on a console would be too great. I think if there is an actual API there, then DEVS and MS need to work on a way to match players with like devices or have options such as a)play with only controller users b) play only with external device (M/KB or Cronusmax, etc) users or c)play with users regardless of device input. I think this is possible if they all put the effort into it on both sides. I mean both Sony and MS have even licensed a M/KB hybrid from Hori.
https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Assault-Commander-Controller-Officially-Licensed/dp/B01JTOWU0K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519043971&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+controller+mouse

Well, I have the TES+ which is an amazing stick. It is by Madcatz, who is now out of business. This stick will be rare and worth quite a bit in the coming years.

https://www.amazon.com/Fighter-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-4/dp/B018AW408C?th=1

If you don't want to find one of them I recommend the Razer here: https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Panthera-Arcade-Stick-Mod-Capable-Compartments/dp/B01N1KFRU7/ref=pd_cp_63_3/131-5054613-0716250?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01N1KFRU7&pd_rd_r=H4CZ6D86C7H1H5VAPFTF&pd_rd_w=oovcS&pd_rd_wg=WJDrQ&psc=1&refRID=H4CZ6D86C7H1H5VAPFTF

Personally, I don't like any of the current Hori sticks. But people are always releasing new sticks. I'm not a huge fan of the artwork on the Razer, but the stick is quality. I will always love my TES+ though. I hope it holds up over the long term. Qanba is a good brand too but I don't really dig their aesthetics much.

It's all up to you.

Here's my setup

Yes, yes, I know, I have a CRT instead of a flat screen TV. If you'd also notice, I play more old consoles than new and CRT is superior to flat screen for them (and much cheaper). Ideally I'll be upgrading to a small (~20") Sony Trinitron. The 32" ones are free and widely available but they're sooooo big and heavy.

Type|Item

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CPU | Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard | MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage | Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card
Case | Corsair Graphite Series 230T Grey ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive | LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)
Keyboard | Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse | Cobra E-3lue Wired Optical Mouse
Controller | DualShock 4 Wireless Controller for PlayStation 4 - Glacier White (gifted from /u/MaximumDan) with a DS4 keyboard
Controller | Nintendo Wii Remote Plus with a cheap light gun accessory and a racing wheel
Controller | 2x GCN, DS3, 2x DS2, Ouya

Just got a Wii motion sensor bar so I can play light gun games on my PC and use the WiiMote as a remote control. Also thinking about racing games with the steering wheel attachment. Monitors are from Craigslist ($35 and $10 respectively). CRT was a gift from a friend. It's dying though (discoloration). Pre-amp and speakers were also gifts from friends. PC and consoles I bought myself.

Awesome thanks for all the responds guys!
im probably going to try it on PC and see how it plays maybe end up getting it for both.
looking into getting that new Tekken 7 Hori fightstick. i really like the black one thats meant for PS4 but since dont have a PS4 im kinda stuck getting the white one unless i only play on PC or just get a brooks super converter. i also noticed that the PS4 tekken fightstick has a few more features like Turbo that the xbox one version does not.

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Tekken-Fight-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed/dp/B019ZD1I6C/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1495264652&sr=1-1&keywords=Tekken+7+fightstick

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Hayabusa-Tekken-Officially-Licensed-Microsoft/dp/B019ZDL970/ref=nav_signin?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1495264652&sr=1-2&keywords=Tekken+7+fightstick&

take a look if your dare...very tempting..lol

If you want to use an actual stick, I'd say it's probably not worth getting the Alpha. Miniature sticks such as the Alpha and the Hori Fighting Stick Mini tend to be uncomfortable to use for extended periods of time, and are made using lower quality parts than full-size sticks. If you want a stick, the cheapest one I'd recommend would probably be the Qanba Carbon. I own one and it's a fairly nice stick for beginners. Technically it's not a PS4 controller, but Street Fighter 5 and a few other games support it in Legacy Mode. Check to see if the other fighting games you have support Legacy controllers. If they do, this is a great option for your price range. Otherwise, your next best bet is probably the Qanba Drone.

If you want a pad, the revamped fightpad pro is a good choice. I've never used one but the new model has gotten significantly better reviews than the problematic previous model. Personally I went with the Hori FC4, but the price has gone significantly up since that model isn't being manufactured anymore. The newer model is only $40 though, so that fits in your budget.

I got this one a year ago it came into around a 100 dolars. Its lasted a year and its in perfect condition, for a budget stick its of excellent quality and is insanely easy to customise. I'd definitely recommend this stick to any beginner or anyone on a budget.
The buttons are good but definitely not of Sanwa quality but if you really want higher quality buttons its fairly cheap and easy to switch.
It's compatible with pc and ps4/ps3.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487726670&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=arcade+stick&psc=1

I have two fightsticks. The first one I bought was a cheap Hori one, which wasn't particularly that good. Then I got this bad boy and have never looked back: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1520770477&sr=1-5&keywords=fightstick

It's not the flashiest fight stick with lots of extra buttons/functionalities, but it's rock solid and incredibly comfortable/responsive to play with. Plus it's pretty reasonably priced as well.

But yeah, I would suggest doing some research before you invest. See what others recommend and make a budget for how much you're willing to invest.

A great starter stick is the Venom although it probably depends where you live as to whether its cheap or not (i live in the UK so it works out about £70).

Still a big commitment financially but not the £200+ of the Madcatz sticks. Its a good quality stick and very easy to mod. Recebtly changed the buttons with ease and id never modded a stick before. The artwork on top of the stick is just paper that can be replaced so over time you can make changes to it if thats what you want.

Find one of these.

I particularly like the 4 over the newer version. I hold the controller with my left hand normally, but rest my right hand on my leg and use the face buttons like a stick. Best of all worlds, imo.

In my opinion, the Madcatz TES+ is a great stick to get because it constantly goes on sale, is relatively easy to mod, but most importantly, has Sanwa parts already.

Originally released at $200, I got mine for $80 free shipping many months ago during a Newegg sale, and it has since gone on sale again for $100-$130 on different retailers. You just plug in and play; no need for driver installation. I have had no issues at all after about 200 hours of use.

For a beginner fighstick, and as someone who wanted Sanwa parts without having to mod a flimsy $50 entry level stick, I think this was a solid, solid choice of fightstick, which I can take to a local by just putting it in my backpack.

• Amazon and Newegg links
  
• I would keep an eye on r/fightsticks, which is a great place to follow deals on sticks

Shipping is pretty much free for most a lot of online retailers, and amazon offers free one-day delivery for $47 right now. With tax, it'll be right around $50~$51. Do you do 1 day shipping? link

And like I said, it's offered for $40 pretty much on a monthly basis. I bought mine for $40 free shipping no tax.

edit: strikethrough above

Well, if you want to get into fighting games, Skullgirls has a great tutorial that teaches you the fundamentals of fighting games in general. Definitely one of my favourite fighting games.

Ultra Street Fighter IV is really good in Endless Battle. I don't play Ranked because I've had bad experience with the net code but aside from that, game is really really solid and it gets my recommendation.

I don't play Killer Instinct as I lack the console but everyone's saying that it is phenomenal, so it might be something to look into.

Maybe you should play with a pad for a little while to see if youre comfortable with it or not. If you feel that you really need a fightstick, then you could buy the Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai since it's pretty cheap and Hori makes good fightsticks.

I'm not going to recommend playing Tekken on a keyboard as IMO that's a terrible idea but if you want a good Keyboard get WASD: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/mechanical-keyboard.html?dir=asc&order=price

Here is another decent mechanical keyboard for a very reasonable price: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-STRAFE-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B012B6X7MI/ref=zg_bs_402051011_8?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=GN2GG2268K8TJTNJ4BNH&th=1

Since your budget is limited I would get this for Tekken specifically:
https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487704480&sr=8-1&keywords=fight%2Bcommand

I'd also like to note that there are a ton of mechanical keyboard clones now on the market and it can be super confusing to pick a good one. I would suggest you look at Cherry MX switches only. In addition there are different Cherry switches so I'd suggest doing some research. This will help:
https://i.imgur.com/zCs7ibr.png http://i.imgur.com/z0iCr.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Custom-Thumbsticks-Analogue-Controllers-Playstation-4/dp/B00K23LKK4/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1420489913&sr=1-1&keywords=aluminum+thumb+sticks+ps4

I have these installed. Love my Ds4 more than any controller since the Wavebird now I have these. I don't even use my other two DS4's, or won't until I get the other sticks shipped & installed! The concave is ideal for folks like me with bigger hands. The cool touch of the aluminum is great for intense gaming sessions.

Your chances of finding a legit contoller are pretty low. They were made in a very low supply and only in Japan. They sold out quickly and the Chinese bootlegger's jumped on it. So if you find one like this on Ebay, chances are that it's a Chinese bootleg. I should know because I bought one and the D-pad snapped right off after about a month of moderate use. $50 well spent. Sarcasm.

You're best bet is to buy an authentic Saturn controller and then buy an adapter. https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-Sega-Saturn-Controller-Adapter/dp/B006ZBHXEO/ref=pd_sim_63_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2V8355E46Q050YHG5BZ0

I have no idea if there is an adapter for PS3/PS4 but I can verify that this adapter works for PC without issue.

Saturn D-Pad is good but it's little loose. If you've ever held one of those Madcatz controllers it's like that but obviously of a better quality.

The gold standard for fighting game controllers is the Hori: https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=pd_sbs_63_img_0?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=B4MMEAK7DTTM9CMFCJCD&th=1

Specifically this version with the switch for PC. Avoid the Pro version like the plague. I've bought two different Pro's and they both stopped working after less than a year. I've bought this controller over a year ago and have yet to have any issues. Hence my username.

But use what you're comfortable with. Reminder: Smug, I'mStillDaddy and Nuckledu use the standard PS4 controller. I think there's a couple of other pad warriors that hit top 8. I know Luffy uses a controller but I don't know if he's still using a PS1 controller or made the switch to PS4 or Hori.

Hi guys!

If anyone wants to buy me this new controller off of my wish list they will receive all of the videos on this list

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one video will be sent in good faith after proof of purchase, and the rest will come after the item arrives! 🥰

Qanba Obsidian

• Currently on sale on their main website.
  
  HORI Fighting Edge
  
  Razer Panthera Evo
  
  Hori Rap 4 Kai
  
  The 'Hori Rap 4 Kai' used to be the most popular until the 'Qanba Obsidian' came along. From what I've seen, the Qanba Obsidian is the most popular stick right now. The 'Razer Panthera Evo' is an updated version of the 'Razer Panthera' and it's a solid stick from what I've read.
  
  Personally, I'm looking to get the 'Hori Fighting Edge' next because the button layout got me curious and the aluminum panel seems really nice.
  
  
  
  I have the Qanba Obsidian and Hori Rap 4 Kai so I can speak a little about those.
  
  >Qanba Obsidian
  
  Quite big in size and heavy. Definitely sturdy. Lots of room to rest your arms on. Custom art work replacement is easy. Same goes for replacing the buttons. The miscellaneous buttons up top are a little too small and fat fingering a button happens sometimes.
  
  >Hori Rap 4 Kai
  
  The size and weight lean towards average. It'll rest on your lap nicely and not feel overbearing. Custom art work replacement requires a little work because the default artwork has strong adhesive binding it to the steel plate inside. Replacing buttons is no problem. Miscellaneous buttons are on the right side underneath the right wing. You can also rebind buttons.

I've got the ps3 Madcatz SFxTekken fight pad which works really well, but it's pretty expensive on Amazon now. Haven't used it before, but this HORI pad is great for the price. I'm looking to get a fightstick eventually, but my pad will have to do for now. I was so excited when I found out SFV lets you use ps3 peripherals, it feels much better than the ps4 controller

I high suggest you look at either this fight pad by HORI or this MadCatz one not many people think about getting a pad but its a say cheaper alternative than buying a stick and a WAAAAYY better DPAD than yourre used to i bought the Mad Catz one and it was the best decision i have made. espcially if youre looking for something wto help with your inputs these definetly do the trick as an aleternative to the controller and as a form of a "good cheap" fight stick. i know you said you were looking for a stick but these a great other options that most people arent aware of . and if you are aware of them and you say frick that get this fight stick.

1. Steam Controller - might be able to maintain some continuity in letting you play mouse-needed games from a controller, but otherwise is a pretty good hybrid that will work for everything and has robust support through Steam, and totally customizable configurations on a per game basis. Also if you have a modern Samsung UHD tv, the Steam Link beta is free (works wonderfully) and the Steam Controller is one of the two controller types it currently supports. $49.99, includes everything needed. http://store.steampowered.com/app/353370/Steam_Controller/
   
   
2. Xbox 360 Controller - Will work on basically every game, but some games - even those with 360 pad support - will be retarded and not recognize it, like Dead Rising 2 Off the Record. Not much to say, it's a great controller. You have to buy the wireless dongle separately, it's usually like $30 for the dongle and at this point I'd say $30 or $40 for the controller. https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Wireless-Controller-Glossy-Black/dp/B003ZSP0WW/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1503597208&sr=1-3&keywords=xbox+360+controller
   
   
3. Xbox One Controller - better than the 360 controller, but, despite natively having drivers in Windows 8 and 10, it has a lot of driver related problems. Does not include accessories - if you have an S type or newer controller, they have Bluetooth support. You can only pair one XB1 controller via Blue Tooth at a time to your PC. Wireless adapter accessory is somewhat unreliable - it may not ever work for you, period, might work fine. Controller - $40 if lucky to $70+. I have 3, got one for free, one with console, paid $60 or so for my Gears 4 limited ed version. Also the battery life is kind of terrible, I'd say 30 hours if you're lucky. https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-Wireless-Controller-White/dp/B01GW3H3U8/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1503597180&sr=1-5&keywords=xbox+one+controller
   
   
4. Dual Shock 4 - I have no experience whatsoever with this controller on PC but it does require a separate adapter for wireless. Personally I don't like the feel of it, it's too lightweight when I have used it and the sensor bar seems pointless. It seems like it's probably solid though. https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Black-4/dp/B00BGA9X9W
   
   
5. Logitech F310 - Wired but absolutely solid controller, no input delay. The layout is PS2 Dual Shock 2, with Xbox face buttons and PS2 style sticks, but the actual thumbgrips are more like XB360 if I remember right. D-pad is one solid piece like the 360 controller. It will work with literally everything, flawlessly, except games that have hardcoded controls like KOF98 / 2000 etc. The only annoying thing is the xinput/directinput switch is in the place where you would expect the Select button to be on a Dual Shock 2, and the select / start are above that. This can often lead to you changing the input on accident, which will basically screw you in any third person game because both camera and character control will stop working. Also the back of the controller is more angled than the DualShock 2. You should be able to grab one for cheap - they've been around for at least 6 years. Despite the 1 piece d-pad I actually think it does fairly well for fighting games, too. It's well made and can survive a lot of abuse. I've dropped mine, stood on it, dropped it, tossed it, thrown it, yanked it from the USB port on purpose and on accident, and it's in perfect shape still 6 years later. http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/f310-gamepad
   
   
6. Logitech F710 - everything above but wireless, maybe a slight input delay, and it also has a vibration switch across from the input select. Different color, 2.4ghz band. $50 http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/f710-wireless-gamepad
   
   I personally would recommend the F310, if near the PC but the cord is not very long, so more likely the F710, or the 360 controller. I like the XB1 controller but it's battery life is simply unacceptable, and I don't use it enough that I'm willing to consider the sync problems acceptable when I do.
   

Grab a Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai -
https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai-PlayStation/dp/B00SULMRI4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485751635&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+arcade+stick

Compatible with PS3 / PS4 / PC. Should be around ~$220 delivered. The only difference between this and a (far more expensive) MadCatz stick is it uses Hori's 'Hayabusa' buttons/stick, which feel slightly different to the Sanwa buttons/stick used by MadCatz. Purists will tell you 'Sanwa or nothing', but I can tell you honestly from 7 years of playing SF4 using Sanwa sticks to using this Hori stick for SF5, the difference is negligible. The good thing is you can easily swap the stick and buttons out for Sanwa parts if you really, really must have a Sanwa setup.

Would recommend 100%.

The new models of the Hori RAP 4 Kai should all have Hayabusa stick & Hayabusa buttons with their updated PCBs which has an XInput mode in addition to PS3/PS4 mode and reduced input lag. I ordered one off Amazon last week and it's all there.

Personally I prefer the Hayabusa lever + buttons to Sanwas. The stick movements feel smoother to me than my Sanwa sticks, the difference in resistance is noticeable and I find it easier to instant air dash and whatnot.

The Hayabusa buttons have noticeably shorter travel distance compared to the Sanwas, it's kinda like comparing Cherry Red MX to Speed switches.

I also very much like that the stick + buttons are slightly further spaced from each other, it makes the whole experience feel less cramped.

Looking at the listing on https://www.amazon.de/Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai-PlayStation/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1526897111&sr=1-1&keywords=hori+4+kai - it looks identical to the listing on the UK site (notice how on the last 3 pictures the stick has a little grey strip along the right hand side with a legend of what buttons are under that right hand side ledge, my RAP 4 Kai has this and is the updated model!).

I'd pull the trigger on a RAP 4 Kai, if you got a PS3/PS4/PC switch & matte finish buttons you're good to go.

In regards to warranty - https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/11/ftc-warranty-warning/ I thought it was illegal for companies to refuse warranty because of stickers?

Edit - Forgot to mention the gate:

I would say stick with stock parts as long as you can before trying out things like different gates, be patient with getting used to the controller. Building muscle memory will take time!

I remember when I first started out I tried all sorts of nonsense like stiffer springs, octo gates, bigger actuators, hitbox etc. but in the end I wound up on a stock RAP 4 Kai and all I really needed to do was find a comfortable setup and git gud.

On the plus side I can now switch between pad/stick/hitbox/keyboard at will and it'll take only a few minutes to get combos down haha. I'm still tempted by the hitbox dark side but for now unless I can get a specific style of custom hitbox made I'll probably just use this stick now.

To sum up what have been said by others, I think you could go with a setup like this one:

• a left-handed or ambidextrous mouse with several programmable buttons where you can place abilities or call-outs. Here's a couple ones: SteelSeries Sensei 310 - Razer Naga - BenQ Zowie FK1 (some of them aren't made for FPS so you might wanna try them first)
  
  
• a fragpedal for crouching and jumping
  
  
• for WASD, if you can't find the joystick things Nicholas is talking about another solution could be to get an arcade stick and use joytokey to remap the analog joystick to WASD keys. There are small and relatively cheap ones like this one. These analog sticks have the advantage of giving a very clear feel of the direction you're pressing through distinct "clicks". You might also be able to find standalone joysticks with a similar feel.

I would like to chime in on another better method to get AP afk/overnight. The method is 1 AP about every 7.5 seconds but there is a requirement to purchase a ps4 turbo controller to do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2raCWyqH2Y
The original video above is by a Japanese person and I take no credit for finding this method, just trying it out.

Basically, you will need a ps4 controller that has turbo mode, one like the Hori FPS Plus.
https://www.amazon.com/Horipad-FPS-Plus/dp/B0106XFCPI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481247710&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+ps4

Go do the basic level 5 training at camp.

1. Hold turbo button and press R1, repeat it for a second time.
   
2. Hold turbo button and press triangle, repeat it for a second time.
   
3. Hold turbo button and press circle, repeat it for a second time.
   
   What this does is loop the training sequence over again with Noctis warp striking Gladios doing a 1 hit KO. I've tried it and managed to gain 3000+ AP over one night.
   A tip from me is to equip all your accessories with strength enhancement if you are unable to defeat him in a single hit.

If you'd like to try a stick but don't want to blow a lot of money on one, HORI sells this mini one for much cheaper: https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Stick-Mini-PlayStation-4/dp/B014KXMEW4/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
The reviews are mostly positive. Good luck on finding something that works for you! <3

I bought these for my GF's PS4. I put jump on the right and melee on the left. It's not as much control as a KBM, but it helps for sure. It's wired, and you have to make sure you turn on the PS4 without it connected, then connect after signing in. The paddles don't break, they actually fall out because they're connected via magnets. Don't toss it across the room, you won't lose the paddles. However, you also won't worry about snapping them because they just disconnect. Also the extra long charging cable is nice.

https://www.amazon.com/Collective-Dominator-Controller-Adapter-playstation-4/dp/B01L8QHXJA/

Really eh. If the controller's all you like, get the Horipad FPS plus.

I prefer the xbox controller, but I don't hate the PS4 controller. It still feels nice imo, and has way better features. But if I could only recommend one console, I'd go with PS4 just because of all the exclusive titles that xbox lacks, especially if you're not into Halo or Gears.

Look up the FPS Strikepack on google, basically it clips on your controller and adds 2 paddles on the bottom like a scuf, it’s also a modpack but I don’t use any mods

The paddles have magnets in them and you can remove both or one of them if you’d like. So I remove the right one and set the left one to circle

I really like it, way more than scuf, and it’s only like 40 dollars. You can set the paddles to any button on your controller in seconds, it’s really easy to use

edit:
Collective Minds Strike Pack F.P.S. Dominator Controller Adapter with MODS & Paddles for PS4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L8QHXJA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_b79DDb9ARYYF6

I have tried the Xbox Elite and the Scuf Vantage. I MUCH prefer the standard DS4 controller with a Strike Pack attachment.

The Elite was very nice, but the joysticks are a lot looser than the DS4. For someone like me who likes to snipe, it proved insurmountable. However, the quality of the controller is excellent and I use it with my Xbox. The resistance that the DS4 joysticks provide gives you a greater degree of control and accuracy in my opinion.

I pre-ordered the new Scuf Vantage thinking it would be the answer. Unfortunately, the quality is noticeably subpar and cheap. The sticks are better than the Elite, but not as good as a stock DS4. The upper paddles are difficult to reach to the point where I gave up on even using them. I returned it after a week of trying to make it work. Not at all worth the price, IMO.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KVP76G0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=53XKXK262INH&coliid=IWH8RMPCNYHM9&psc=1

Has A K and E!

But more importantly than all......... HAPPY CAKE DAY! I hope you have a wonderful one.

An extra dualshock 4 is a must. Always nice to have a spare. I prefer a charging stand over a cable (i only use the cable to sync my controllers), and a vertical stand. Also a Vita is a must have but you can always get one later.
Controller. (White looks best imo)
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Dualshock-Wireless-Controller-Glacier-4/dp/B00KVP76G0
Charge base: (Theres a white one coming soon)
http://www.amazon.com/Nyko-Charge-Base-PlayStation-4/dp/B00FLLFJ68/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1409771477&sr=8-2&keywords=ps4+charging+station
Matching white vertical stand:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Computer-Entertainment-Vertical-Stand-PlayStation/dp/B00MI4Y3W2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409771405&sr=8-1&keywords=white+ps4+vertical+stand
Sexy white vita to match ps4:
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Vita-Wi-Fi-Light-White-PCH-2000ZA14/dp/B00F27JDY0/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1409771573&sr=1-3&keywords=white+ps+vita

Also some Astro A40s and you're all set!

FWIW I use one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Collective-Dominator-Controller-Adapter-playstation-4/dp/B01L8QHXJA/ref=asc_df_B01L8QHXJA/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312141147012&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17258062101335092609&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002310&hvtargid=aud-800703102928:pla-353370169105&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=62842319515&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312141147012&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17258062101335092609&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002310&hvtargid=aud-800703102928:pla-353370169105

It adds paddles to the back of my controller that are programmable on the fly. You hold a button on the adapter and press the button you want to assign. It allows me to use things like alt-fire on amps and guns in a much easier fashion. It can also be used to do things like jump or ADS.

Also, I have never needed or wanted to use the included mods, and basically got this to avoid buying a super expensive third party controller with built in paddles.

If you don't mind I'll give you some more thoughts. So first on fight sticks: They are in no way necessary to be competitive or in our case 'not bad' and they definitely are not for everyone. When I was heavy in dbfz I used this https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA?th=1 it is larger (I have larger hands) but it really helped me build up execution with the feedback and nice d-pad and its cheaper than almost all fight sticks. Since then though I have gone back to just the ps4 controller and don't see any major drop offs. I know this is a ps4 sub but if you have a switch you can usually find dbfz on sale on that and just use the joycons. Seasoned fighters will go crazy at that suggestion but its all about what works for you. I use the joycons for dbfz and will admit my execution is sloppier and I drop things I wouldn't on ps4 but I like to play on the go (mostly practice cause you want good connections when playing online).

Now on dbfz. Get it. Period. If you are a dragon ball fan get it. If you are new to fighters get it. If you want a great community to help you learn and has a crazy amount of resources get it. If you want to look cool with the lowest possible execution get it. If you grow into a monster at fighters and want to do some crazy stuff get it and probably all other fighters.

When my friends come over to play we use my xbox one controllers which you can either buy the charge and play cable for it to work immediately or the wireless PC adapter to go with it so you can have multiple controllers if you wants friends over playing. I've heard the PS4 controller works now but have not tested it myself. There is also a Hori gamepad that some people love and I've seen recommended on here

Link: https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468939059&sr=8-2&keywords=hori+gamepad

Aw damn, the SoulCalibur VI RAP N went back up in price. The PS4 version was $106 several days ago the last time I checked on Amazon and there was a good seller on eBay that sold it for around $85 to $95 which is where I got it from. Anyway, I do second this. It's my first fightstick and it's a blast.

The regular RAP N is priced lower than the SoulCalibur VI version on Amazon at $126.97 right now to the PS4 and Xbox One versions of the SoulCalibur VI RAP N being $158.99.

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Hayabusa-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B073C5PWS2/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hori+rap+n&qid=1574632968&sr=8-1

If you're okay with used fightsticks, there is a seller, a pawn shop apparently with good reviews, selling the PS4 version of the Hori Tekken 7 RAP N for $99.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-Hayabusa-Tekken-7-Edition-Fight-Stick-PS4080/233395481925?hash=item3657746d45:g:cS0AAOSwfOBdxeKs&shqty=1&isGTR=1#shId

Personally, I wouldn't buy it not because it's used, but because of the price. From what I gathered, the Tekken 7 version is more of a collector's edition. It's usually more expensive than the regular RAP N and the SoulCalibur VI which because it was attached to a less popular game, is sold for less than the regular RAP N where except for not have these rubber mats under them, the same thing the Tekken 7 version lacks if I recall correctly, it's the same fightstick with a different art and case color. That is just me, though, if you really want a RAP N, like the Tekken 7 stock art, and are okay with the price, then sure.

Another "used" fightstick is the Rap 4 Kai which was mentioned by another user on Amazon. Amazon Warehouse currently has a "like new" offer for the Rap 4 Kai and it's $116.85. I've had good experiences with Amazon Warehouse, but there have been some misses like they sent me the wrong items. Not all that bad since you can just send it back and get a refund.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00SULMRI4/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=soul+calibur+fightstick&qid=1574631682&sr=8-7

Someone else posted a thread about how the Razer Panthera Evo is on sale on their site and their eBay store for $140. The one issue with the Panthera Evo is that it can be difficult to install a Korean lever. You did not mention any 3D fighters like Dead or Alive, SoulCalibur, or Tekken, so it probably won't matter much, but in the future if you ever get into those, especially Tekken, or you really want to try out a Korean lever, then it could be a pain to install.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fightsticks/comments/e11iq2/razer_panthera_evo_on_sale_for_140_via_razercom/

There's a user selling the Qanba Obsidian here. I do not want to imply the user is a bad person, but do be careful. The thread's title was not changed, but they're asking for $125 now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fightsticks/comments/dyopbe/wts_qnaba_obsidian_140_shipped/

there's no such thing as a "beginner" stick. you just need to get one that uses decent parts like sanwa. unfortunately that means you will have to spend more but I recommend Hori

if you're really strapped for cash try this stick and then mod it later with sanwa parts

also playing on pad is perfectly viable, even more so for SFV. so don't feel like you need to get one unless you have aspirations to go to japan one day and play against the arcade heads

The Venom posted below is alright if you're not sure, but most people will tell you to upgrade to Sanwa parts anyway, which creates a false economy. Unfortunately, in the UK we're actually pretty limited in terms of fight sticks available for purchase (for reasonable amounts of money).

I bought my RAP4 for about £120 and it's got a decent amount of heft, so it won't shift around like a Mayflash. Adjusting from pad to stick took a bit of getting used to (you'll get worse before you get better!) but it does save a lot of strain on your thumbs and IMO certain actions become way easier to pull off.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PS4-Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai-x/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/

As far as the other discussion of Sanwa vs Hori goes, I wouldn't worry about it at this point. I've used both and prefer Hori, but I can't say that my performance would be affected if I had to play on anything else.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HORI-Arcade-Hayabusa-Fight-Stick/dp/B07895D3XF/

This is pretty much the same thing as the RAP4, but I think the layout is *slightly different. Around about the same on Amazon Prime though.

OK, sounds good! I'll give it a shot. Just ordered from Amazon. Thanks man! A quick heads-up for anyone else who's interested because there's seems to be a little confusion. There are two models: this one: $48 (which says: [OLD MODEL] in the product name) & this one: $46. I got the latest model which, because of a discounting, is actually cheaper! lol

I ended up going with a MadCatz Fightstick Alpha, and I'm very pleased with it.

https://www.amazon.com/Mad-Catz-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3/dp/B018HXA6H8/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1506198856&sr=1-1&keywords=fightstick+alpha

(I've got a bunch of pictures of it on my blog: https://rpgrabbit.wordpress.com/2017/09/21/rpg-rabbit-fightsticks-it-to-amazon/)

I doubt any actual hardcore player of fighting games would like this stick very much, especially if they do not have tiny hands, but since I have very small hands AND a very small lap, it's right about me-sized. It has a stick control toggle switch to let the joystick serve as the left stick, right stick, or d-pad, and that ended up being exactly what I needed for ARPGs!

Thanks everyone for all of the great suggestions. I learned a whole bunch about fightsticks during this process!

I'd recommend buying a new one - while the Dualshock 4 is a great controller, lots of users have had issues with the thumbsticks after a year or so of use. I take really, really good care of my stuff and I've been through 4 controllers in 3 years (including extending life via manual repairs)

Amazon sells them new for $47, a fairly significant discount from the MSRP, but you can probably find better deals. The newer controllers seem a bit more solid and durable than the ones I bought at launch.

I had the same issue recently but didn't feel like spending $40+ on a new controller. Most of the methods I found on YouTube (blowing into the joystick area, using WD40 & other random techniques) didn't really work for me aside from this one. I bought this, https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015CK8IV0/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Originally it was a few bucks cheaper, but essentially I simply opened up my controller (there's guides on YouTube for it and honestly it's not that hard) and instead of desoldering the entire analog stick and replacing it with the new one. I simply followed this guide https://youtu.be/4AkDIzKqmYY and replaced only the sensors in the left analog stick. It worked perfectly for me and everything works great now (running & moving forwards/backwards)
Do this at your own risk though, I won't be held responsible if you mess up /: just want to help.

I got a Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 off Amazon for ~$200. Works on PC and PS4, feels great, looks great, all that jazz. Definitely recommended

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-PlayStation-4/dp/B00SULMRI4

PlayStation sells a licensed keyboard and mouse on their website that allows you to play any game and map it however you like. Don't know about Xbox but surely with the way video games are headed I'm certain they will release their own keyboard and mouse for competitive play.
link
So no console players are not forced to play with a controller, you don't even need the hori to play kbm on paragon.

>I'd have thought a decent gaming machine would cost vastly more than a console and I'd have to buy a

Not true. This guy's proves it = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZR-a35sxLg

>I'd have to buy a desk and shit to shove the monitor and keyboard and all that bollocks on

Well, if you want to sit on your couch and just skip using a keyboard you can do that...



Also how fucking big do you think a PC has to be? Like.. Seriously how big? Because you are so full off yourself. Also, you still need to buy a controller for your console (I know one comes with) but you can literally buy a keyboard and mouse for 5$

Last time I checked you still need to buy a TV to use it for your console. So why are you telling me that a PC needs a monitor but a console doesnt need a TV?


Here let's do some comparisons.

400$ PS4. http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/consoles/playstation-4-system/109942

14.99$ TV unit (I took the absolute cheapest one...) http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/50243299/

Sofa or sitting on the floor? Alright here you go. A chair 29.99$ (still, cheapest one I could find) http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10289128/

You want some games? Hm, let's take some games that are new and are on both PC and PS4. Let's say 4 games.

Dying Light 59.99$ http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/dying-light/111372

GTA 5 59.99$ http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/grand-theft-auto-v/115462

Evolve 59.99$ http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/evolve/113546

Far Cry 4 59.99$ http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/far-cry-4/115109

Do you want to play with a buddy? Another controller. 53.33$

http://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Black-4/dp/B00BGA9X9W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420739574&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation+4+controller

And lastly. A TV that is in 1080p 156.59$ (the cheapest one I could find that was NEW. NO Used ones or refurbished!) http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00EAY1FGA/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new



Total price 894.86$

Also, do you want to play online? 1 month is 9.99$, 3months is 17.99$ and 12months is 49.99$


Now, let's do our 350$ PC. So PC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZR-a35sxLg

Do you want to use it on a TV unit or on a desk? You choose. (you could technically do this on the console too but a desk is more expensive.) Let's go with desk for your convinience so 79.99$

Same here, couch or a chair? I'll go with a chair 19.99$ http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S79046260/

And now on games.

So, since Dying Light hasnt released the price for the american price I'll pick the european price and change it to the american currency (This will make it more expensive than usually) EU price: 49.99€ converted to dollars 59.07$ http://store.steampowered.com/app/239140/

Since steam has not given out a price of GTA V on steam I'll pick it from G2play.net (it will most likely be sold for 49.99$) but here you go. 55.64$ http://www.g2play.net/category/3077/grand-theft-auto-v-steam-key/

LoL, I am actually kind of happy right now, it's not that usual that europeans get the game cheaper than americans do but we do on Evolve, anyway. Here you go 59.99$ http://store.steampowered.com/app/273350/

Far Cry 4 59.99$ http://store.steampowered.com/app/273350/

Do you want to play with a friend? A controller. I couldnt be bothered looking for a cheaper one. Here you go 9.99$ http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Twelve-Button-Game-Controller-USB-GAMEPAD/dp/B00AEWTSWU/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1420741023&sr=8-5&keywords=pc+controller

And lastly, A TV/Monitor 156.59$ http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00EAY1FGA/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Total: 851,25$

Now, yes. It is very close but my argument will always stand, it will be cheaper on steam. With steam sales, humble bundles (https://www.humblebundle.com/ seriously it's 4 games for 1$... Altho I never pay below average because I am not a scumbag, but still) and websites like G2play.net you will ALWAYS find games that are cheaper, for an example here you go with Far Cry 4 for 34.64$ http://www.g2play.net/category/11641/far-cry-4-uplay-key/

I owned that pad, and didn't like it. The completely circle dad made it impossible for me to use (no tactile feedback of thumb location) they since made a new version that has a cross, so if you buy I definitely recommend that one.

However I prefer the Hori FC4 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GVOFIAA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485298348&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=hori+fighting it just feels better in my hands, the madcaz is too angular for me.

You sacrifice an analog stick (IMO something only giefs really care about) and the top buttons are a bit muddier, but they're more comfortable and I rarely use them. The big bonus is the price difference, it's way cheaper than even a dual shock.

Are you looking for something on the smaller or larger side? This one is rare and has good parts, but for the price you can get something like the Qanba Obisdian which is very nice imo. A few other good options at that price are the Razer Panthera (if you can find one) and the Hori Tekken 7 stick. All of these that I mentioned will work on both PS4 and PC

Practice and take breaks often. Your brain needs time to digest what it just learned. With time, it'll come naturally. I like to compare it to MMO's in a way. The same way you would grind for gear or whatever, you grind your combos until your really proficient at it. Eventually you'll get so good that even new characters will be a quick learning experience (execution wise, not footsie wise).

Don't let anyone tell you you can't do it on a controller. I can name like 10 pro's of the top of my head that prove that wrong.

I do however, recommend a controller with all the buttons on the face like this one

But it's not necessary. Use whatever you're comfortable with.

NP and good luck! If your heart is dead set on that design, $400 isn't a terrible deal considering a broken TE2+ goes for at least $200 (for some goddamn reason), the EZ mod/Brook UFB combo is another $140, and you'll be lucky to ever find red side panels to begin with, let alone pay less than $70-$100 for them.

Otherwise, you can save $150-200 or so and get a HORI pad that's just as good, if not better. They even make a Tekken 7 version if you can find it.

Buy this. This is the same as the HORI RAP N, which usually runs $170, but has been on very good sales recently because it is the SC6 edition.

I'd advise against getting a cheap stick like the Mayflash F300/500, Qanba Drone, etc. If you just want to buy one to dick around with mods on, then they're fine (stock parts are of poor quality), but if you end up liking playing on stick you're going to end up wanting something better anyway, so may as well pay slightly more now to get something of quality. That's my opinion anyway.

was honestly gonna post this earlier.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K23LKK4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

these are metal sticks. they dont wear out. they are absolutely awesome. buy them. love them. develop callouses with them. they wont break.

I absolutely adore my Hori Fighting Commander 4. Incredible pad. Lots of nifty features, PS4/PS3 compatible as well as PC, works out of the box, nice dpad, good buttons, all around solid and priced rather fairly.

I bought two Cinch controllers for PS4 at the start of BO3, and both were broken by the time IW came out. One actually arrived broken and had to be sent back immediately for repair. I do NOT recommend.

I'm currently using the Horipad FPS Plus. It's a licensed controller with a single remappable button on the back left (I use it to jump). I will admit that it's not quite as good of a button placement, but for under $50, it's great! It also has hairpin L2/R2.

Here's the Amazon link

There are a few good YouTube videos out there as well (check out "GameGazm TV" and "Cannot Be Tamed").

They said they are partnering with razer for keyboard/mouse support and razer is going to make a special device to facilitate that. I'm really curious to see what it looks like! Maybe something like this?

https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Assault-Commander-Controller-Officially-Licensed/dp/B01JTOWU0K

i've heard nothing but good things about the hori real arcade pro 4 kai (EU139.39) (link below).
i did the same and learned with a hori fight stick mini which was an awesome experience, although awkward to get used to the position at first, still using it to this day but got a pro 4 kai on the way.
the mini fight stick did require some 3rd party software (joy2key) to run, but very easy to set up, and very responsive.

hope this helps!

hori fight stick mini
https://www.amazon.de/PS4-Fighting-Stick-Mini-PlayStation/dp/B019MMN94A/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1492436675&sr=1-1&keywords=hori+mini

hori real arcade pro 4 kai:
https://www.amazon.de/Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai-PlayStation/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492436488&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+pro+4+kai

I feel like I have a lot of muscle memory on controller from other games as well.. so it's a bit rough transitioning to stick. Never played any arcade, but (same as you) played on controller since PS1.

I bought a Hori Rap4 Kai I don't know if it's a good stick or not for tekken, but I saw it was generally favorable reviews, so maybe someone else can answer that.

One thing I will say though, I bought the Tekken 6 bundle that came with a cheaper stick. And I won't do that ever again, that stick was not good quality.

I switched to Bumper Jumper when I came back to the game a couple months ago. Except for the occasional accidental super trigger I love it and it is totally natural now. I'm not a huge fan of any abilities being on the sticks so I may be looking into one of the attachable paddle addons for the PS4.

You can completely replace both rockers for like 7 bucks but you just have to understand basic soldiering

2pcs Qunqi 3D Joystick Wireless Controller Rocker for PlayStation 4 PS4 Controller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015CK8IV0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_OPUAybZ090SN9

Edit: yes I know you can get all these parts cheaper but I'm just posting amazon links for ease of use

Do not buy a Mad Catz stick, they are overpriced. Yes they are good sticks but you could get a Hori and Qanba that is just as good for half the price. I would personaly recommend this one or that one. They both work on PC.

A fair warning though: Getting used to Stick takes time and practice. They are quite expensive too (at least the good ones are).

So if you are going to get into fighting games on PC but don't want to deal with sticks you could get a fightpad which will have a better d-pad than any xbox controller ever had (as far as i can tell) for about the same price.

http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1459323144&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+fightpad

If you're interested you could always visit the sub of the game you want to try and ask there what people use and how well it works for the given game.

With the PCB, five 24mm buttons, eight 30mm buttons, joystick, and USB wires/connector you're over $100 (that's without a touchpad, balltop, shaft sleeve, extra wires for the home/options/share/R2/R3 buttons, PCB harness, and shipping).

Then there's materials and time spent on a decent case - $20 to $30 I think would be reasonable.

In the end I can guarantee that you will save at most $10 if you built this from scratch. And that's if you spend almost nothing on the case.

I'm not trying to stop you from making you're own stick - I've done it and loved every minute. But honestly if saving money is the biggest concern, I think buying a prebuilt is the way to go. There's a reason that independent stick builders charge insane amounts of money for a custom project.

I got a Venom Fightstick, very nice, easy on the pockets. Even Desk uses it. Best part is that it is highly moddable. I replaced both my buttons and stick with sanwa parts. Highly reccomended.

It is available here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Venom-Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1525672313&sr=8-2&keywords=venom+fightstick

I started using the Collective Minds PS4 Strike Pack before Christmas for competitive Overwatch and have been really pleased with it. I also switched out the sticks to XB1 elite sticks and got some foam to put around them to increase the tension. I've been super happy with the setup.

For reference, I have a Battle Beavers Custom controller with two rear buttons, smart triggers, and increased thumb stick tension. The only better component on my "officially" modded controller are the smart triggers, but you can get close enough with DIY stop mods (just search YouTube).

All this to say, I prefer my BBC controller, but if I hadn't already bought it, I would definitely stick with the collective minds strike pack and a few simple DIY mods for under $50.

Edit: I realize I didn't say this, but the Strike Pack has reprogrammable rear buttons. It also has other electronic mods like rapid fire that I do not use. Here's a link: https://www.amazon.com/Collective-Strike-Dominator-Controller-Adapter-Paddles/dp/B01L8QHXJA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483635587&sr=8-1&keywords=collective+minds+strike+pack+ps4

Edit 2: And here's a link to the foam rings that increase stick sensitivity: http://www.ebay.com/itm/FPS-AIM-ASSIST-PS4-/282292291904?hash=item41b9ee8940:g:cPAAAOSw2GlXDvSZ

This is what I use https://www.amazon.co.uk/PS4-Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hori+rap+4&qid=1556421599&s=gateway&sr=8-1

I've had it for about a year and half and it's working as good as the day I got it. Pretty solid stick if you want a nice one but don't want to regret it later haha

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I will say that,minus Falke seeing requires remapping for a pad,nobody really needs a stick.

This Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai keeps dropping in price on Amazon. It did it the other day and made it down to like 113 bucks or something, so keep your eye on it for a bit. I think it is pretty well regarded as a good stick, others may have more input than me.

The turn speed for mice is MUCH faster than controllers and mouse if much more precise. With elite controllers you simply reposition buttons. While I will agree there is an advantage, I don't think it's an unfair advantage.

Here's a good video comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_7Pn133io

Also, if you want a keyboard and mouse for PS4, there are options: https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Assault-Commander-Controller-Officially-Licensed/dp/B01JTOWU0K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519404002&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+tactical+assault+commander+pro+gaming+mouse+%26+keypad

and it's officially licensed. So I guess my argument is invalidated because they are kinda already allowing it. XD

My desire for a pro controller is more about build quality and form factor than it is about "tactical advantages".

I'm in the same situation as you, coming from playing smash 4 competitively for almost a year now and wanted to try SF5. I would recommend either getting the Hori Fighting Commander 4, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_soNkzbF5WZWMH or the Qanba Drone https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I0GEDEY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_hpNkzbN42VHVE

I personally recently purchased the Qanba Drone due to a fighstick being much easier and healthier for my hands and wanting a fighstick as I've heard of how helpful they can be for execution. I at first was going to get a fighting commander 4, and would suggest that if you think you'd prefer pad, but my personal recommendation is a Qanba Drone. It's a bit pricier but it's a quite good stick for the price and can be modded in the future if you decide you really like stick.

So you use Joy2Key for that? You could use that Mayflash adapter so that you dont need sofware.

I use the Wii Classic (non pro version) and the only other controller I tried that I like (I bought like 5 or more, no joke) is the Hori Commander 4 (http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8).

This one is plug and play with no adapter (but you cant taunt unfortunately, unless BMG allows us to bind taunts to buttons). So I might switch to this one soon cuz it does feel more responsive than my Wii Classic (I think the adapter adds a bit of delay).

Edit: Also, it works on PS4 so once Brawlhalla hits PS4 and there are lan tourneys using the PS4, we ready son. lol

https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA?th=1

i used a hori fighting commander for a while before i finally got the scratch to invest in a stick. i really like it, and still use it every now and again just for fun. i also use it when i play emulators and some platformers.

the dpad is solid and face buttons are slightly oversized. i find it to be a really satisfying pad all around.

Right now, there are only two officially licensed products - the Raiju and the upcoming Nacon. There are also two controllers that aren't officially licensed, but also sold already.

The first one is the Hori FPS pad:
https://www.amazon.de/Hori-Pad-FPS-Plus-PS3/dp/B0106XFCPI
It's only 40 €, so I don't think it can really be a competition to the pricier pads. It got good reviews on German amazon though, but then again, they could just have been bought.

The second one is this Emio Elite pad:
https://www.amazon.com/EMiO-Elite-Controller-PS4-Gaming-Console/dp/B01M0IJGBJ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482136115&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4+elite
It's 90 bucks, closer to the Nacon at 110, but I haven't really read anything about this one. While I think that it looks cheap, it's interesting that it offers the same extras as the Xbox ONE Elite.

And yeah, I know what you mean. It bothers me that Scufs etc. are so pricy and not officially licensed.

I love the Sony brand Dual Shock 4 controllers. However, if you're missing the shape of Xbox style controllers, I've seen other manufacturers make them in that style.

I've played on Sony systems since I switched from X360 to PS3 (after also having been mostly Xbox) and I was tempted by these myself. However, I never did because I knew it would just stagger my transition to the feel of the new console and accompanying hardware.

If you still just don't like how the DS4 feels in your hands during play, you should check out something like this.

If you're looking for a good skin (I don't think any Sony contollers will come in purple) but I recommend DecalGirl. Lots more options than solid colors and you might find something that suits you!

If you're playing on pad, just use any USB game controller you already have. The most important thing is that you think it's comfortable.

If you want personal anecdotes, I'm currently using a HORI Fighting Commander, and it's pretty nice.

I'm just going to leave this here.

Amazon

GameStop

Shipping costs on a flat rate box are actually $17.90 for the large flat rate box.

Let's go with the $51.90 control, and great! We have free shipping! So that's $51.90(Controller) + $17.90(Shipping) + $290.00 (PS4) = $359.80

Now, let's compare with the market, shall we? This thread has a white PS4, with Destiny, The Last of Us remastered, and a controller for $350. See where the price drop to $250 would help you?

>are they really worth it

Depends on what you want. It's not going to make you a better player. If you are having some discomfort using a pad or a keyboard, it might help with that. For example, I got sore thumbs playing with a pad and switching over to a fightstick helped with that.

>how long does it take to adjust?

A number I see said often is about a month. It takes time, and the directional inputs are a completely different experience, both in terms of execution and timing. So if you're the type that gets mad when you drop an iWR or EWGF, well better get used to it.

>link the one you have

This, but modded with higher quality joystick and buttons. Got it because it was the cheapest option I had for a stick that came with art swapping capability out of the box.

>the best one out there ?

There isn't one. Most sticks above 100$ use identical parts (Sanwa Denshi), with the only difference being the case they are in. Popular brands of non-custom sticks are Qanba, Hori, Mad Catz and Razer.

I've never played with a PS3 or PS4 pad, but I'd recommend looking into the Hori Fighting Commander 4 as a fantastic value for $30 if you're only looking for a fighting game controller and don't need the analog sticks for other games. Setting it up to work on PC is very easy with x360ce.

I say Battle Beaver Customs if you really want a controller. Watch this guy review of one. He was sponsored by SCUF. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqc1AZ04FRw I also would recommend this. http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/accessories/ps4-strike-pack-fps-dominator-controller-adapter-with-mod-pack/133887 or Amazon Link https://www.amazon.com/Collective-Dominator-Controller-Adapter-playstation-4/dp/B01L8QHXJA This basically adds the paddles to your regular PS4 Controller for $40. I seen a lot of reviews on it and it's totally worth the money for someone who looking to save some money and doesn't need all the extra shit. You can buy two and still be way ahead from a Scuf Controller. The only and main reason why Scuf is popular is because they sponsor almost everyone who plays PRO COD and gives them free SCUFS.

4 battery pack + battery charger https://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Rechargeable-Auto-Safety-Over-charge-Protection/dp/B00IM3P8GS/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2SXTYRG36F5U9&keywords=rechargeable+aa+batteries&qid=1567265383&s=gateway&sprefix=rech%2Caps%2C279&sr=8-4 13 bucks

Ps4 controller https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Magma-4/dp/B01MD19OI2/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3M2388Q4EG7EN&keywords=ps4%2Bcontroller&qid=1567265472&s=gateway&sprefix=ps4%2Bcontero%2Caps%2C277&sr=8-3&th=1 44 bucks

The Elite controller was a huge flop and it is strongly outdated, I'm pretty sure it doesn't even have Bluetooth, and also you can simply buy the standard controller if you don't like it or buy one of the third party ones.

I bought the Hori FPS controller. $45~. It made sense for me since I needed a new ps4 and ps3 controller, the extra button, programmable buttons, larger frame and the turbo button helps with the lvl 20 grind. Read reviews to get a good pros/cons. I love it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0106XFCPI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You can just purchase a cheaper stick and mod it in the future. The Mayflash Stick is $40 and can be modded with Sanwa parts. The Venom Stick can be had for like $70 if you can find it and actually can be modded to be VERY good looking and with all the good parts. As mentioned in the other replies, the Hori sticks are constantly on sale as well both at stores and locally I'm sure. I always see them on Kijiji.

Yet ANOTHER alternative is a converter. The Brooke PS3 to PS4 Converter is restocked very frequently. Focus attack should be getting them soon as their stocks are likely just depleted from their holiday sale. This thing costs you $35 bucks and should have no lag issues from everything written about them on Shoryuken.

You can even buy a new PCB and dual mod your stick to work on whatever you want. Lots of solutions for you. You dont need to spend $200, especially if you already have a stick.

Looks like these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K23LKK4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I put them on my PS4 controller (because the stock sticks started disentigrating almost immediately). They're really great, I recommend them.

This is a pretty reliable paddle attachment for your PS4 controller. I used this for Fortnite/COD when I had a PS4 (I mapped jump and build to them) and it’s a great cheaper option rather than paying over $100 for a controller with paddles.

I went through 3 replacements of my left stick before finally buying [machined aluminum sticks](
http://www.amazon.com/Custom-Thumbsticks-Analogue-Controllers-Playstation-4/dp/B00K23LKK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422197908&sr=8-1&keywords=ds4+metal).

I love the weighty feel to them and the ridges and I have been using them for months and they feel exactly the same as day one. I would definitely recommend these before trying to put new stock sticks back in.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SULMRI4/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1426440508&sr=8-2&keywords=hori+v4&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

Looks like Amazon still has this one in stock. I just picked it up last week and I'm happy with it - it's an improvement over my v3 Kai. I have been experiencing an issue playing on PC where it doesn't work unless I unplug the USB cable and plug it back in again, which is a minor annoyance. I haven't looked into a fix yet.

I got this from a recommendation when I asked reddit, it's a great stick. I haven't had a single issue with it; it's worked perfectly.

It takes some getting used to, but now it's hard for me to play without them. I'll probably wait for the next gen to get an elite controller, but these are what I use now for PS4 and I love them: Strikepack

Keep in mind you can't use these wirelessly

I mean, if you prefer a stick then you prefer a stick. I'm the same way. Of course, when I got into fighting games it was with SF4 on the 360 and that controller's pad was absolute ass. Some of the best players in my local scene play with a pad, though, as well as players that win majors.

If you're looking for a PS4 stick, there's the Fightstick Alpha that's a bit on sale atm http://www.amazon.com/Fighter-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-4/dp/B018HXA6H8

One of the guys I play with has one. It's not as flimsy and poorly built as you might expect, but it is pretty small.

Just bought one of these a couple days ago at GameStop, it's a sweet little mod pack for a standard ps4 controller that adds two paddles on the back that you hit with your middle fingers. You can assign the paddles to any button on the controller (besides L2 & R2). Works well, solid construction, fits very nicely on the controller. Makes me feel like a sweaty try-hard but I like it haha. Takes a little getting use to. But besides that no complaints yet, $43 well spent.

https://www.amazon.com/Collective-Dominator-Controller-Adapter-playstation-4/dp/B01L8QHXJA

Check out the Hori Fighting Commander (also has an XBox One version). I just started using it a few weeks ago while waiting for holiday sales on fightsticks, and found it to be an excellent gamepad. It isn't universal to other games because it doesn't have analog sticks, but for fighters it really does a great job.

If you live in Europe get the PS4 Venom arcade stick. It's very moddable and works natively with the PS4. You wont have to pay the inflated prices either because it's made for Europe and not the USA-

https://www.amazon.es/Venom-Arcade-Stick-PS4-PS3/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_es_ES=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=VMHWVHV7OM1F&keywords=venom+arcade+stick&qid=1573051944&sprefix=venom+arc%2Caps%2C231&sr=8-3

I'm American and I have one of these and I love it. It's very easy to swap the buttons and joystick to a different brand. I have Sanwas in mine, and you can upgrade it similarly while staying close to $100 for overall cost.

I use this one : the Hori FC4 Pro

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKLFES8

I've been using it for almost 2 years now, and it is just beginning to show some signs of fatigue. So I bought another one. I just love this pad

I must note that I play Gief, both in SF5 and SF4 and that I am quite a butter churner (I killed a brand new Hori wireless Tekken5 stick in 2 days, a PDP MKX fightpad in a month, a madcatz SfxT in 2 weeks) :p

I never had problems with the rotating d-pad, nor the sensitivity switch (though I locked both as I wanted them day1, and never unlocked them since, so that may be why).

What I really like about this pad is the sensitivity setting and the 6 + 4 buttons. Of course you can only map 8 buttons in game, but then I have my 6 face buttons for LP/MP/HP and LK/MK/HK, on the left triggers I have PPP (lariat) and KKK (V-reversal) and on the right triggers HP and HK that I use only to activate Vtrigger. This makes it much easier to do things like c.LP os V-Trigger

Yeah, those guys are pros.

In my experience, most players aren't using advanced techniques like air-strafing for that extra speed, and they're just getting across the map with decent regular-wall-running. But the guys on the top of the scoreboard often do know slide-hopping/air-strafing.

First, focus on good walling running and parkour. Then worry about air-strafing later. Also, air-strafing pretty much requires either the Evolved controller layout, or Bumper Jumper, or a controller with underside paddles. That's because you must be able to jump without having to take a thumb off the joysticks. I personally went with this because I didn't feel like relearning the buttons for Evolved or Bumper Jumper.

On a semi-related note: Also consider boosting your Field of View (FoV) settings. It'll enhance your peripheral vision (making the camera slightly fish-eyed), and as a small side effect you feel slightly faster. By default it's 90º but I recommend 110º.

The upcoming Hori Pro N is a little pricy, but it’s PS3/4 and PC (xinput). I have the Japanese version as well as a few others of this body type, and it’s hands down one of my favorite. The little bit extra up front is worth it, IMO. I’ve been replacing a lot of my sticks with the hayabusa parts that come in this.

I have no idea on that one. But if it doesnt ship there and you're in the UK I heard this stick is good for the price point:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS

Its actually got pretty great reviwes, 4.5 stars

HORI Fighting Commander 4 Controller for PlayStation 4/3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_pTE8wbQG5BKKZ

Something like that seems like it would be awesome.

The iBuffalo SNES controllers are pretty cheap and have a nice build quality.

You could also get some USB Sega Genesis controllers (as Genesis maps terribly to a snes layout).

It's too late for him at this point. The covers will only fit properly on undamaged thumbsticks. The only solution now is for him to get a new set of thumbsticks on Amazon.

I recommend aluminum ones:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K23LKK4/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1535523722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00K7UHG8W&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0BEJE28Z7F7P8AC75XH3

But if you prefer rubber, you can't go wrong with X1 versions:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Black-Xbox-Controller-Analogue-Thumbsticks/dp/B00JQX91HU/ref=pd_sim_vg_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1Q6NM0PJT9TQPJCGT8CW

i use this guy it's honestly not that bad. someday i would love to get the Qanba Crystal though.

I cannot recommend this controller enough. The turbo feature allows for easy button mashing during supers, it's very lightweight, has almost identical ergonomics to a 360 controller, and the bumpers/triggers are both just contoured buttons with very light action required.

Also, for fps, there's a small secondary trigger recessed into the left grip that, when pressed, tightens the sensitivity quite a bit for more precise aiming.

Absolutely love this controller, well worth the money.

There are lots of companies still making quality sticks. If you use the term 'fightstick' you'll have better luck searching. Hori, Madcatz, and Qanba all have good sticks out there right now.

Here's an example of a quality stick.

the only stick for more than 250$ is qanba dragon, everything else cost 200$ or less.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fightsticks/comments/6n6suj/the_ultimate_fightstick_guide_evo_2017/

the hori hayabusa N. is a fantastic stick and only cost 170$

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073C5PWS2/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i3?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B073C5PWS2&pd_rd_r=NPMXJGZEPB1TT2T9WGV1&pd_rd_w=J13gU&pd_rd_wg=k050w&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=40CC3N3XTZQEEXBX4PMW&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1cf9d009-399c-49e1-901a-7b8786e59436&pf_rd_i=desktop#customerReviews

the hori n., razer panthera, ettoki and qanba obsidian are the best premium fightstick by less than 250$.

Do not, and I mean DO NOT, get a Scuf controller. They are overpriced and breaks insanely quickly. You'll be lucky to last even a couple months with one.

Razer are an okay product. I don't particularly like them. They are popular only in name alone, imo.

I'd say, even if you don't run Windows 10, still go for the X1 Elite controller. The default button mapping is fine and it's the only controller in the market that feels genuinely premium and will last at least a year.

But if you still refuse the X1 Elite controller, your best option are one of these.
https://www.amazon.com/Collective-Minds-XBOX-ONE-Strike-Pack/dp/B01720MZJO
https://www.amazon.com/Collective-Strike-Dominator-Controller-Adapter-Paddles/dp/B01L8QHXJA/ref=pd_sbs_63_img_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HBG35K784WBJMXD6G4E4

I bought a strike pack instead of a SCUF, I love it! I’ve had it for over a year now and no issues whatsoever, would highly recommend as I hear a lot of people say SCUFs break pretty quickly

The strike pack is a mod for the standard PS4 controller

The Ps4 controller is probably the best controller Sony has ever made (despite the battery life). It won't take long for you to adjust to it, and the shoulder buttons are superior to the Xbox One's.

As for adapters, I don't believe any exist. The PS4 uses Bluetooth technology, while the Xbox uses radio.

EDIT: this looks interesting, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0106XFCPI/ref=s9_hps_ft_g63_i2

Have you ever had a stick? I have a Razer Panthera sitting on my desk collecting dust. It was great for SV5, but for Tekken I feel like the Hori Fighting Commander is superior.

Sure but then your total cost would be around 100-110gbp when a proper stick costs the same or less:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PS4-Real-Arcade-Pro-Kai/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1536613381&sr=8-2&keywords=hori+pro

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HORI-Arcade-Hayabusa-Fight-Stick/dp/B07895D3XF/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1536613381&sr=8-3&keywords=hori+pro

I use the Pro N and it's great.

This is the one I have it comes with a 4 way restriction plate, and I am modding it to an 8-gate tonight. That is the only thing I really wanted to change. Hori did a great job over all. I might eventually change it to Sanwa, but for now it works great.

When I look at the amazon page here: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00SULMRI4?pf_rd_p=46535598-d2e0-4bc4-8392-182d8c1e93fc&pf_rd_r=DP635DZCYYWTD776DGC5

it says on description that it has Hayabusa stick but kuro buttons but as u scroll down to the image below, it says its both hayabusa stick and buttons, also if you look on the product image of the box, it says kuro buttons, i'm so lost right now. XD

I have a wired 360 pad (but /u/Vulfilla posted a link to the wireless one) and I can say that I am very happy with the ergonomics, I have an old one with both sticks on the bottom, like the Logitech, and I feel that the 360 layout of having one stick at the top is much more comforable.

You might consider an Xbox One Controller, which people describe as being even more ergonomic, or a PS4 Controller.

Honestly when I need a new controller I buy the name brand. I've bought a few off brand controllers and they always die way faster (both in battery life and longevity of the controller) and have issues with sticky buttons, small sticks, etc.

Looking on amazon they don't have any purple name brand, but they do have 3rd party vinyl skins you can buy.

Hope this helps!

That's not the same stick my dude.. i mean this one

A few friends (that play with stick aswell) actually recommended me this stick for my 100€ budget. My budget is pretty limited due to the fact that im a student.

And THIS is why I'm investing in one of THESE - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GVOFIAA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Not that I'm dismaying stick players; i envy their fine-tuned control and there are some things you cannot do with a pad that you can do with a stick. I even tried practicing Bodega-chains with Kyo in KOF XIII with my old 360 stick.

But nothing feels more comfy for me than playing SNK games with pad. Been that way since I started with KOF 98 on the DC. It's a good part of why I love SNK games - All my button are on the face pad, and they're paired up so I just need to press 2 for rolls or blow back. Shoulder buttons are just extra stuff as needed.

(new player)

I play SFV on PC with a dualshock 3. I like the controller but the D-pad hurts my thumb so I use my t-shirt to do my movements more smoothly.

I wanted to know if there's an accessory like this kind of D-pad that I can add above my PS3 or PS4 controller.

Otherwise, do you recommand this model ?

My priority is to get a smooth d-pad, precise of course, but not something that burns my thumb like the dualshock 3.

Thank you.

The F300 is fine for your purposes. There is also an Elite version available (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CXJ77DT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GKnEDbK4M736R) that already comes with Sanwa parts and costs about the same if you were to mod the non-Elite model.

I recommend the Hori RAP N (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A8L6O0U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wHnEDbPEFHNYX) as well, since it's about as as cheap as a new F300 Elite, has a better button layout, and already comes with quality Japanese arcade parts.

Then look elsewhere. This stick is a modified real arcade pro which retails for $150. I personally have the same stick for my PS4 and it's worth it IMO. My only complaint are the buttons which you can easily swap out for Sanwa anyway.

This is a pretty good price for an arcade stick all things considered. Cheaper sticks tend to be pretty terrible quality.

So I've recently bought SFV. I haven't honestly played a Fighting game such as SFV in a long time, about a decade actually.

I was looking to get a stick for it, but since I'm still a student (College is living money hell), I want to get a budget one.

This one in particular has been interesting me

http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Stick-Mini-PlayStation-4/dp/B014KXMEW4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

I don't want to go above $50 and this one will serve as practice and a bridge to upgrading to a more quality one in the future. I just want something to practice with.

I hate the feel of my Xbox360 controller with SFV. Dashing and doing just combos in general is really hard for me. My thumb slip off the directional stick many times while I'm playing trying to execute combos on even training dummies.

What would you guys recommend for me? Any other budget friendly sticks?

Cheapest and quickest answer I can think of is to get a Venom stick.

https://www.amazon.com/Venom-Arcade-Stick-Sony-Playstation-4/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469130371&sr=8-1&keywords=venom+ps4+stick

The stock stick and buttons are surprisingly good for the price (although I did change them out for Sanwa parts that I already had in another stick for old formats).

This allows you to play on PS4, PC and PS3 out of the box. No messing, and easy to mod.

I play both ps4 and PC, and tried the keyboard and mouse on ps4. It is not even CLOSE to the same thing as using your PC, but some people can get good at it. I don't consider it a problem since a) you don't know for sure if they are using one or not, they could literally just be much more skilled at a controller than you and b) I bet you aren't complaining when they are on your team and not the enemy.


All the consoles have stated they are working on comparability with mouse and keyboard in game. Sony even sells its own licensed hardware to use a mouse and keyboard. https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Assault-Commander-Controller-Officially-Licensed/dp/B01JTOWU0K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497547613&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4+mouse+and+keyboard

Officially Licensed Playstation Arcade Stick (PS4/PS3) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_ORMMwbZB13STN

Granted it's very basic but it's a great stick to start with that will last you a long time till you move onto something else.

There's this one: http://www.amazon.com/Horipadfpsplus/dp/B0106XFCPI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1452877671&sr=8-2&keywords=hori+ps4

Be aware though, as you say you play some pretty competitive FPS' on Xbone, you are more than likely going to experience some input lag with this, or any other 3rd party, controller.

And here is link to a reddit post where someone in the comments that has one gives some information on it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/3f9e05/now_that_its_been_out_a_bit_has_anyone_tried_the/?

Video review on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnQkALcPAOs