Ow that's awesome!

Happy birthday already!

Great to hear that the RAM will be used! That really makes me happy.

I've seen your updated OP and my god, I get way too jealous, haha! This is going to be an amazing PC.

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Watercooling

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I have been looking at it in depth. You don't want to go with the 480mm in the top & 240mm in the bottom setup?
Here is a double 480mm build. Which does look pretty awesome as well.
Here is an other double 480mm build. This one is a bit messy, but just to show you how it will "look".

I would advise to buy the pretty expensive but probably very good & awesome looking window from MNPC tech.
I've send them a mail to question if a 480mm radiator will still fit in the bottom. I am very sure, but not entirely.
Just got a reply from MNPC tech and the 480mm radiator will fit no problem.

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As for the tubing, you mentioned that you want hard tubes. Would you perhaps like the extra step to go with glass?
The benefit of glass is that it's very scratch resistant & it stays very clear. It's also not that hard to "cut" but you need to take your time for it. It will take a full weekend for sure to completely watercool it. Or I would say, 2 days at least.
Here is a video that explains on how to cut glass tubes. But it also shows you and explains why you would perhaps want glass tubes.
As you can see at 3:23 the soft tubing got pretty damn clouded. I don't know how long this took, but I guess about a year+ for sure. Probably 2 years, not entirely sure.

When you do go for glass, it's recommended to actually set up the whole loop in plastic first. To get the exact lengths, since you can cut plastic a lot easier than glass. Then you can use the plastic parts as templates for the glass. This will cost you an other $50 extra, but it's mostly going to cost you time.
I will put the plastic in the list.

It's actually great that you'll get the case soon, because then you can measure up a lot of things that I need to know. So I can suggest the right parts! So be ready with a measuring tape.

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GTX1080s, cables & monitors

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GTX1080s:

Yes, getting 2 GTX1080s is going to be "rough". They sell out in a snap, so I highly recommend to make an account at this website:
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1080
Then you can get an email / SMS text notification for when parts come back in stock, so that you can order it very quickly. It sells out in less than 2 hours the last time a card came into the store on Amazon.
You can buy any "founders edition" card from any brand really. But EVGA & Asus are 2 that keep the warranty even when you put waterblocks on them. So I prefer those 2 brands, maybe MSI, Gigabyte, Zotac & other brands started to also keep the warranty if you put their cards under water. But I am not sure about that.
I highly recommend to be very careful about all the screws when you put on the waterblock. Just in case you have to send the card back for RMA. You need to have all the screws & the cooler.

Cables:

You have to tell me which color combination you would prefer. They have a lot of options from CableMods.

• Black / Blood Red
  
• Black / Blood Red / White
  
• Black / Blood Red / Silver
  
• Black / White
  
• Red / White
  
• Red
  
• Black
  
• White
  
  Then I have a better idea on how to pick out the colors for the rest of the components.
  
  

  Monitors:
  

  
  Ow yes, the monitors! I assume that you probably would prefer to have the same monitors all around? That would of course shoot your budget into the roof. If you do go for the Acer 1440p, 165Hz gaming monitor of $759. The LG 4K monitor that I recommended got a very sleek design as well, but it of course is a bit different compared to the Acer 1440p monitor.
  
  

  Other parts:
  

  
  I hope that you didn't buy that CPU for $549.99? But anyway, you want to buy a cheap after-market air cooler as well. Since the i7-6700K does not come with a cooler on it's own.
  You need this to test the system, before you put it under water, you have to make sure it works on air. Including a stress test for about 2-12 hours. Whatever you prefer. I generally let it stress test for 1 night. Which is about 8-10 hours.
  
  I will post my list with all the parts later tonight. I hope, but I have to tell you, that you should not order it right away. We have to do some measurements first!
  
  

  Measurements:
  

  
  I will make a paint drawing to show you exactly what I need to know in terms of all the measurements.
  
  

  Tools:
  

  
  

  I've also looked at some tools that you need to build the PC and to watercool it. But I have to ask you if you have certain tools already.
  

  There may be some other products I am forgetting about right now. Excuse me if I do!
  

  
  

  Item|Price
  

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  Magnetic screwdriver set | $20
  Set of files | $15
  Handsaw | $13
  Electronic drill | $50
  1/8" to 5/8" adapter chunk | $20
  Velcro straps | $8
  Anti static wrist strap | $5
  
  Working on the whole list now (again).
  
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  #####Again, if you have any questions. Feel free to ask!
  
  
  
  
  

When I was 12 I bought a toolbox and started filling it with the things I used the most. Ten years later, here's what's in the toolbox I always take with me:

• Paperclips (small & large) - Never underestimate the utility of long, poky things. I keep some on my keychain, as well & use them often.
  
• Leatherman - This gets the most use out of any tool I own. I usually keep it in my backpack.
  
• Handheld blowtorch - Good for lighting candles, inspiring fear.
  
• 2-part, 5-minute epoxy
  
• Marine epoxy - Has the consistency of clay, but hardens even underwater. Can be used to fix cracked or leaking pipes in a pinch.
  
• Duct tape
  
• Hemostats (curved & straight) - A must if you ever work with small things. They can clamp down to hold two things together, freeing a hand up.
  
• Dinky drill - Get one of these. At first I thought it was lame, but having a small, cordless drill around for quickly disassembling things and drilling small holes saves a lot of time & effort.
  
• Zip ties (small, large) - These are light and very strong. They come in handy for random things and work like a charm.
  
• Hacksaw blades - Just keep a few in the toolbox. I use them primarily to make lockpicks out of. Wrap a length of cord around half of one and use it to saw through small pieces of metal in tight places.
  
• Lockpicks - Having a set of lockpicks and knowing how to use them can come in extremely handy. I keep a set in my car and another in my backpack. Read the MIT Guide to get started.
  
• Digital calipers - Nice for measuring small things to a high precision.
  
• Goof off - Good for getting random stains out & removing sticker residue.
  
• Masking tape - I use lots of this.
  
• Electrical tape - I don't use as much of this, but you should have some anyway.
  
• Wire strippers - You can strip wire with a knife, but these save time.
  
• Latex gloves - These are light, low-volume, and very useful for working with messy things like epoxy.
  
• Rubber mallet - This is one of the first things I bought, and though it doesn't get as much use as most of the other tools, I've never regretted buying it.
  
• Sharpie markers - You always need them, and you never have them. Keep some in your toolbox & away from your desk so they don't get ideas from your ballpoint pens & walk away.
  
• Needle & thread - Good for fixing popped buttons and such.
  
• Microfile set (also called Jeweler's files) - These come in extremely handy when working with small things.
  
• eXacto knives - Everyone should have a set of these.
  
• Carpenter's triangle - Very useful for woodworking. This can save you a lot of time if you learn all its uses.
  
• Hand drill - I just picked this up recently, but it's come in really handy for precision-drilling small holes or pilot holes.
  
• Channel locks - These will hold you off until you have the space & money to buy a full wrench and socket set.
  
  There's a few other things that don't fit in my tool box but I feel should be mentioned:
  
  
• A good, 1/2" CORDED drill - Don't skimp here. Cordless drills have rechargeable batteries that always wear out and need to be replaced. Use the dinky drill for those kinds of jobs. If you buy a nice corded drill & clean it occasionally, you may never have to buy another one again.
  
• Rope - I keep a good length of rope in my car & have used it many times.
  
• Steel coat hangers - These are terrible for hanging clothes, but they can be used to make all sorts of things.
  
• Dremel tool - You can do anything with a dremel tool and enough cutoff wheels.
  
• A hand saw - You can cut pieces of wood pretty precisely with a good hand saw & a little practice, and it's much more compact than the equivalent power tool.
  
• Towel - No explanation needed.
  
  Anyway, these are the things I've taken off to college with me, and they work for 98% of all the jobs I've needed to do over the past four years. Anyway, hope this helps, and good luck to you.
  
  Edit: The links are to things I have bought, not necessarily the best or cheapest example of each item.
  

I do a lot of shadetree mechanic stuff, and my toolkit is relatively small and 99% from harbor freight. Invaluable tools for me:

• Dewalt impact wrench. ($100) Fuck the drill, get the driver and these ($5). This makes zipping things together and apart super easy. Not necessary, but holy shit is it my most used tool. I'm lazy and this saves a ton of time.
  
• 3/8" plastic harbor freight socket wrench. ($10) This is a ton better than any steel wrench I've ever had. Great mechanism, ergonomic, light, non-corrosive.
  
• Bit set ($23) comboed with the impact driver and one of these ($2), and you're set for any screw/socket situation you could possibly have. I use this so much that I should probably have 2...
  
• Breaker bar ($20) for anything that the socket wrench can't handle on its own. Direct competitor to Snap-on for $20
  
• Socket set ($30). I don't think I've ever used anything outside of these besides some small jobs where either a special deep socket or thin walled socket was required. Make sure you get an adapter set ($5) so all your tools can work with any sized sockets. While you're at it, get some extensions ($15) and universal joints ($7). These are invaluable when you need them and very useful otherwise. Usefulness factor makes them a necessity in my book
  
• I love my channel locks ($7). I don't carry box end wrenches. I've never been like, "fuck, I NEED a box end wrench." I think that anybody who needs them is a damn liar. These channel locks are every crescent wrench combined into one tool. They also serve as pliers, wire strippers, etc. etc. I might upgrade to vice grips one day, but these are still my go-to pliers.
  
• Similar to channel locks, some adjustable wrenches ($9) are musts for the same reason channel locks are necessary.
  
• Multimeter for electronics. This thing does it all. I want to say it even does continuity which isn't too common.
  
• non-harbor freight torque wrench ($57). This one is a direct competitor to snap-on as well. There's a 1/2" drive one that goes up to 150 ft-lbs which can get you by 95% of jobs for ($38) if savings if the penultimate goal. I'd splurge if I were you though on the 250 ft-lb wrench.
  
• THE BEST TOOL EVER ($5) Whether you dropped something into the engine bay, need to grab a socket way over 'there', or whatever, this tool is so useful.
  
• Jackstands ($50 for 4) - and any jack. I have a nice racing jack, but it's definitely not necessary. Scissor jacks can access tight areas, but bottle jacks are more reliable. I don't care what jack you use, use jackstands BEFORE YOU KILL YOURSELF in the stupidest way possible. Boaters use lifejackets, construction guys use hardhats, mechanics use jackstands. These are your personal protective equipment and they are designed to save your life. Make sure it's rated for your vehicle and carry 2 if you can, but carry at least 1 if you have any inclination to get under your vehicle for any reason. The average person might not need one day-to-day, but the average person shall not go under their car without one. Rant over.
  
• OBD 2 engine communication device ($17). I can read and clear engine codes using my phone. I can check O2 sensor voltages, I can check battery voltage, boost pressure, vacuum pressure, my 1/4 mile time, etc. etc. etc. This tool is extremely useful. I consider it necessary given its pricepoint and utility.
  
  ​
  
  I don't believe I've missed anything. These are my automotive essentials and are valued at $360 new. Skip the convenient impact driver and you're at $260. I want to make it clear that you can do 99% of any vehicle work using these tools and these tools only. Whether you're changing your tires or dropping the transmission, these will get you 99% of the way there. Most of these have been side-by-side compared with professional grade tools and are very competitive performance-wise. Cost wise, it's no contest. These tools win.
  
  ​
  
  Jackstands

Aaalright so he's a simple man. I love that. He likes his tools and his gear to be life lasting and that's something I totally agree with.

A strong ass hatchet would be something manly that he might like.

I know this is out of your price range but a good electric Drill saves you so much trouble when you love fixing things around the house.

He has a pocket knife? Why not a multi-tool. I love these things. Super useful. Or a Swiss army knife.

I would love to have any the above mentioned items as gifts so yeah.

Hope you will find the perfect one thou. Happy hunting :D

Here's a good square: https://www.amazon.com/Swanson-S0101CB-Square-Layout-Combination/dp/B00SOVRPXW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1504672358&sr=8-2&keywords=swanson+square

Black and Decker isn't currently known for being a great brand, but they have some great prices on cordless tools.
This black and decker cordless drill is a great bang for the low asking price: https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-LDX120C-Lithium-Ion-Cordless/dp/B005NNF0YU/ref=sr_1_4?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1504672428&sr=1-4&keywords=drill
The combo with the circular saw is pretty damn good. If you don't need to cut curves, I would pick a circular saw instead of a jigsaw.

Black and decker also sells a cordless jigsaw: https://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-BDCJS20B-Lithium-Jigsaw/dp/B019OF6T38/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1504673042&sr=1-2&keywords=black+and+decker+jigsaw

The Harbor freight aluminum bar clamps are fantastic for clamping larger pieces together, and the smaller steel bar clamps are also fantastic for everything else. You can go with pipe clamps, that will cost slightly more than the aluminum bar clamps, but they will work significantly better.

I predict their enthusiasm for pizza wanes after the 15th consecutive meal. Here are some things that I've appreciated lately:

- a strong headlamp that is rechargable. I didn't really wear one for 30 years and I've worn mine 3-10 times a week since buying it a year ago. So, so, so, so useful. So useful. So very nice to have laying around nearby to make everything visible.

- Chair - Staple Hyken - comfortable and breathable

- giant mousepad - $10 to $25 and about two feet by three feet on the desk. When everything is a mousepad life is better

- three-jet butane lighter

- a good 12V drill and a drill bit kit. This has saved me about 10 hours and much frustration so far, though if you are considering it you could do better than that price.

- electric toothbrush

- computer repair kit

- good German alligator pliers

- minimalist wallet

Don't buy anything until you actually need it. You'll go through that $300 really quick once you actually start working on projects.

That being said, you'll definitely end up with a decent hammer, a few screwdrivers, a stud finder, a step ladder, a tape measure, and a cordless drill. Everything else is project-specific and depends on the type of materials in your house.

Your cheap wrench set and current screwdrivers will take you far. Wear them out before buying new.

For serious painting, a lot of cheap rags to wipe down spills. Get the roller kit that fits directly in the 5-gallon bucket. Don't skimp on your paint brushes for trim work. A cheap brush can work fine too, but a nicer one makes it easier for newbies. A few of those those cheapie foam brushes are excellent for small touch ups.

This Makita drill is nice because it's lightweight and will fit your wife's hands too. Excellent quality.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LZ5I02O/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1495679684&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=makita+drill&dpPl=1&dpID=51%2BY1lbrzcL&ref=plSrch

The prices for batteries are high because they can be. I have sold power tools for a few years and their are actually pretty good margins in them. Especially the bare tools. That is why, if a user needs a new battery, their best bet is to buy a kit to keep the batteries and part them out. For example, a Makita BL1830 Battery is 100.00 at Home Depot but you can get an LXT211 for 251-279 when on sale. It comes with 2 batteries, a charger, drill, and impact. All of which are sold for over 100.00 by themselves. This is why you see so many bare tools on Ebay for good prices. People buy the kits and break them down. There is so much profit in tools that you could purchase either of the kits below, break the parts down, and make pretty good money selling them on Ebay:

lxt211
dc970k2

Amazon will sometimes sell the 2nd kit for $89.00. DW9116 Charger -$15 DC9098 Batteries - $20 DC970 Drill - $34. If you search these on Ebay, you will see a couple sellers doing this. Hell, you could even break the items down and sell them on Amazon.

I have had virtually that same 18v Dewalt drill for almost 12 years and it has never failed me. I actually recently upgraded to 20v and gave my old drill/driver to my wife.

I also work for a company that provides us with 18v Lithium ion Milwaukee drills and I can tell you that we put those things through the ringer each and every day and they are every bit as reliable.

Your biggest reason for the price difference in your two options is that the Milwaukee is a lithium ion kit and they have much much more power. If you are looking for the dewalt counterpart this is closer to its level. If you are serious about drilling through concrete, I would highly suggest getting a hammer drill.

Another thing you might want to consider is buying your drill from a dealer instead of online. Realistically any of the top brands you look at should hold up very well to moderate use, but if you go through a dealer it could make any warranty issues easier.

Hope this was somewhat coherent/helpful. Happy drilling and be sure to come back and share your projects!

I'd never use an impact for that - mostly machine screws? I just recently shopped for and got a screwdriver and I feel like I looked at most of what's out there. Its sort of neglected by many tool makers. Here is what I found - more than likely you're looking at a 12v tool, I don't recall even seeing an 18v screwdriver (which is essentially a drill driver with an impact-like quick change chuck).

Milwaukee does have the biggest range - but I see you've not had the greatest experience with them. The single speed driver is limited to 500rpm as you've said, but they make a 2 speed, brushed, and brushless which may serve you better. If I was going to use one all day I'd get the brushless. You may already have some batteries and chargers, so it may make sense to stay Milwaukee. Plus you could get a 1/4 or 3/8 12v ratchet on the same battery which may be useful to you.

Other offerings are few and far between. DeWalt has a decent 12v screwdriver, but its only brushed, it uses a slide pack which makes it a bit bulkier, but the hand grip is a better shape as it does not have batteries in the grip - may be better for your hands.

Makita used to offer a 12v screwdriver in its white compact pistol grip platform, but its hard to find anymore. They don't seem to be doing anything with this line, as they also have their slide-pack 12v line, and I think this is just going to die on the vine.

Bosch seems to be paying attention to this however. They have a nice 2 speed driver, but brushed. They also make a right angle driver for tight spaces - same 12v battery. And they just started offering a 12v drill driver with interchangeable heads - so you can have drill chuck, a hex chuck, and offset hex chuck, and a right angle adapter. If you don't want Milwaukee then I think this one is your best choice.

Ridgid does not have a screwdriver in their 12v pistol form factor, but their drill is noticeably smaller than Milwaukee's and I suppose you could put a quick change chuck into the regular chuck - but makes it longer. Not brushless either. They do have a clever palm screwdriver on the same battery for tight places.

Beyond that - Metabo? Hitachi? Panisonic? I did not look at them.

Is size a concern?

The Makita subcompact has been great for me and it shares batteries with the larger 18V tools. As a more casual homeowner use case, it was much more attractive to me than Milwaukee's M12 line as I can still grab a recip saw or 1/2" drive impact on the same platform.

https://www.amazon.com/Makita-CX200RB-Lithium-Ion-Sub-Compact-Brushless/dp/B01M1BYJAG

If you need something larger or more robust for heavier duty work, honestly just pick a color. Milwaukee seems to have better deals for bare tools and combo kits that make picking up additional tools and batteries (sell the charger) a little bit more affordable.

It completely depends on your financial situation, but I would recommend just buying your own tools. You will get more than your moneys worth if you hang on to them for 5-10 years. Which is very easy with proper care.

Here are some cheaper yet not terrible options on Amazon. These should get most jobs done around the house.

• Orbit Sander $28
  
• Assorted Sanding Disks $20
  
  
  Total of $48
  
  
  
  If you want to go with another method outlined here you can use a regular drill. Tons of uses for a drill other than sanding down your skillet.
  
  
• Drill $30
  
• Coarse Wire Brush attatchment $9
  
• Fine Wire Brush attatchment $6
  
  Total of $45
  

At 2-20 cabinets I assume these are private facilities and not Co-Location facilities.

It all boils down to well-thought out standards that align with your needs & requirements.

Plenty of good recommendations in the thread already, but I'll chime in with some of my favorites.

1. Equipment Cabinets as tall, wide and deep as possible.
   

• Floor space is finite. You can't (easily) make the equipment room bigger. So use all of the vertical space that is available to you.
  
• Devices & equipment keeps squeezing more capabilities into the same 1U and 2U form factors, often at the expense of additional equipment depth.
  
• 900 and 1000mm deep cabinets are just not cutting it anymore. Standardize on 1200mm depth, or you'll regret it soon.
  
• I like this PDF from APC here as it provides a clear illustration of the problems encountered when you are forced to install a deep device in a shallow cabinet. Ignore the concept that maybe you don't use Cisco UCS servers. Someday somebody is going to buy a device as deep as that UCS enclosure and want to mount it in one of your cabinets.
  

2. Air Flow, Air Flow, AIR FLOW !!!
   

• Hot Aisles and Cold Aisles.
  
• Where will the hot air go?
  
• Where is the cold air coming from?
  
• If this is a small, 6 cabinet environment, having a big assed 36" industrial fan in the room for just-in-case is a brilliant investment.
  

3. I don't want 110V power in the server environment. Everything in the cabinets is 220V.
   

• We deliver 2 or 4 x L6-30R connections to each cabinet.
  
• My initial response to a request for 110V power in a cabinet will be very negative, bordering on hostile.
  
• Anything that is 110V-only isn't data center grade. Go find a better product and come back with a new request.
  
• Yes, I will eventually cave in and meet the needs of the business.
  

4. Yes, I fully agree with having a permanent stash of consumables in the facility (if this is a private facility).
   

• 1" or 3/4" velcro by the roll.
  
• 12" medium-duty zip-ties.
  
• Label Printer and a cable labeling solution.
  
• Flashlight, multi-bit screwdriver, Cage Nut tool. In a larger facility I want an electric screwdriver, but small & light not big and powerful Like This, NOT Like This
  
• Patch cables, Fiber jumpers, SFP/SFP+ optics
  
• I don't want a Co-Lo provider to provide these things for free. Such a service will be abused and the costs of that abuse will be passed forward to us.
  
• I love seeing a credit-card enabled vending machine outside of the data center floor with these things in it. I'll put a $10 15' CAT6 patch cord on my AmEx in a heartbeat if it saves me from having to sign out of the facility and crawl into my car because I'm one cable short.
  
  
  ...
  
  
  I had more thoughts, but I've lost them...
  
  

While I can't provide any input on the products you have listed, I picked up a bosch 12v pocket driver at a pawn shop a few years ago. I can't say enough good things about it. Even tho it was used I have never had a single problem out of it or the drill and impact it came with for that matter. Very strong with 2 different speeds. Batteries charge quick. Feels great in the hand. A fine tool worthy or consideration for sure. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003BEE12U?cache=7b30bc03ac566f4bc333a8334bd29bb2&pi=SX200_QL40&qid=1414192396&sr=8-2#ref=mp_s_a_1_2

There's a great deal going on the makita 12 volt max brushless drill. It's $145 and then another $25 off of that. Great deal for $120. Mine arrived a few days ago and it's been great.

Also, you can send $50 via text to yourself (or anyone) and you'll get a $5 credit added to your account. I did this knowing I was buying the drill and it brought the cost to $115.

Deal info

I've been using a look to know for a while, but as my health has declined it's gotten a bit difficult to keep up-- plus my looms never made a tight enough knit for my tastes.

So I did some research and found a good, entry level circular knitting machine that wasn't too expensive and I love it! Now I can make a good length scarf in only 3hrs.

I had an idea about making it electric-- lots of folks have set up a power drill and use it for turning the crank. Since it's not the more expensive Addi Express, unfortunately there aren't really custom attachments, so instead I'm using Sugru to attach a spare drill bit I found.

Then I want to hook it up with a foot pedal, and maybe I can work on 3-4 at once!

I also use a row counter, but I think I need a stronger magnet for it to not miss rows.

Product links:

D&D Professional 40 Needles Knitting Machine Weaving Loom Kit includes Yarn Needles Accessories for Adults/ Kids https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071YSTN8Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_x6SCCbCC2S4MV

Electronic Counter, DROK LCD Digital Tally Counter 0-99999 Forward People Door Counter Panel 5 Digits Shockproof Retail Traffic Punch Tester Totalizer Gauge Magnetic Induction Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0153409CQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_j.SCCb8XKJDEW

DCT Foot Operated Pedal Controller On/Off Power Supply Switch 115V 15A 2 Step Control Style Woodworking Machine Control https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076MH2NCT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_C.SCCbVJS6QYY

BLACK+DECKER DR260C 5.5 Amp 3/8'' Drill/Driver. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T2VJ93C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_T.SCCbPP035AX

Sugru Moldable Glue - Original Formula - White 8-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WW8KIQO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_9.SCCbGCDH137

You may want to consider the Black & Decker Matrix set. I have had it for about 2 years and use it for pretty much everything. The best part is you can get the other attachments (jig saw, router, sander, circular saw, etc.) for about $30 each. I've built a deck, a laundry, and a salon room using it. The 20v Max battery delivers great power and lasts a while, but the charger that comes with it is shit (only .5mAh and takes hours to charge), although they have one that claims to get you 80% in 20 min. Overall I've been very happy with this set and don't hesitate recommending it for anyone who will be a casual user.
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-BDCDMT120-Lithium-Ion-Cordless/dp/B009VK6G8U

Also Sears has a craftsman version of that's called snap on, I think. I believe they are interchangeable with the matrix attachments as well.

Well actually... probably not, at least with my experience using a dremel. My little hand drill works so well because it’s got really great precision on the RPM control just by being really careful with the trigger. I can get great real-time speed control, which is pretty critical. Maybe there’s some other dremel or accessory that I haven’t seen, but in my dremel the speed can only be adjusted with a clunky wheel, and even then, the slowest RPM is too fast. Also, you’d need to get some sort of annoying adapter to actual fit a small enough bit into a dremel...

I really only use the dremel for ‘carving’ type things... it’s just not delicate enough

EDIT: I think that This is the drill I have. It's honestly fantastic.

I really love these bedsheets found on amazon.

Dewalt cordless drills are on sale right now.

I've had these dress belts for a couple years and really like them.

This is the best thermos I've ever had. Use it daily.

So. That holder doesn't seem to be the right one for that shower head.

How nice are you wanting this to look vs. the level of function vs. cost and effort you want to put in?

If you want FUNCTIONAL only... I would recommend a big-ass carabiner and some good 2-part epoxy for metal. put the carabiner on that hangar with the epoxy and let that operate as your holder from now one.

• Pros: It works. You don't have to dick with removing the current hangar and trying to find a new one.
  
  
• Cons: It will look kinda like ass.
  
  Alternative 2: Find a new showerhead mount. Look at the measurements of the products vs. those of the handle on your showerhead. Make sure it fits. Follow the instructions to mount it. TAKE SPECIAL CARE that you either use drywall anchors (which should probably come with the device), or drill it directly into a stud.
  
  
  Shower Curtain: This is a bit more difficult, because of the positioning of the window and the sink. I would recommend mounting your shower curtain from the ceiling using these. Again, use the mounting instructions that come with them. And for god's sake, when mounting into the ceiling, use drywall anchors. Past that, just get a rod and curtain.
  
  
  Tools needed for this endeavor include: Small batter operated drill/screwdriver. They are all over amazon for <$50. In fact, if you are TRULY a beginner, here is a cool little set for you. You aren't going to be building any houses with it, but it has some basics you will need around the house. If any of these break, that shows you that you use it enough to warrant something more expensive.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BEE2LU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

You can buy this right now on Amazon for $79usd.
I absolutely love this drill. Mine came with the charger and an extra battery. The battery life is incredible! It's been ready to go every time I've reached for it. It has a battery life indicator in the form of 3 green leds that count down the battery so you can easily see when its getting low. It feels great in your hand. Plenty of heft but compact in size. Its the last drill I know I'll ever have to buy. It's built like a tank. Last week I was using it and I could see that I was on one led of power left. I knew I had fully charged the backup battery and put it in the case with the charger like 2 years ago. Slapped it in and it was fully lit ready to rock. Put the other one in the charger and it was done in less than an hour. I've had plenty of cordless drills in my lifetime and the most frustrating thing with them for me has always been needing it infrequently and always finding it needing a charge. That will never be the case with this drill.

Well, you need to find somewhere that sells cheap tools, perhaps a second hand tools place or a garage sale :)


Edit: here are the things you need, these are way way overkill for the job though and will run you about $55 if you get free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/Decker-DR260C-5-2-Amp-Driver-8-Inch/dp/B00T2VJ93C/ref=sr_1_1?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1463019428&sr=1-1&keywords=drill&refinements=p_36%3A1253528011

http://www.amazon.com/Coolshare-Awesome-Craftsman-61-Pc-Accessory/dp/B0140PDXW2/ref=sr_1_11?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1463019496&sr=1-11&keywords=twist+drill+bits

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-SF100-Wood-Finder/dp/B00020JOFA/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1463019602&sr=8-16&keywords=stud+detector

http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-60-100-10-Piece-Standard-Screwdriver/dp/B0000950PN/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1463019662&sr=8-6&keywords=philips+screwdriver

Do you plan on using drill bits more often, or driving fasteners more often?

If you are fastening, get an Impact Driver:

https://smile.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCF885C1-20V-Impact-Driver/dp/B01LBT3AZU?sa-no-redirect=1

If you are going to be drilling more often, you could get a cheap corded drill, or either of the drill drivers you linked.

I find that even the hardest drilling tasks, a cheap HF drill works fine. It's going to be as good as the drill bit, basically... But fastening takes a quality tool, and it'll depend on the strength of the anvil as well.

That Impact that I linked hits very hard, and it's an amazing tool.

I haven't used it, but the Drill/Driver alone (not the 3 piece kit) is $59.97 at Amazon and has 4.5 Stars on 243 Reviews, so it seems to be a well respected tool. I wouldn't think it's good for commercial use, but certainly a good tool for around the house.

I highly recommend the brushless 20 volt kit. It's more of a premium drill and might be excessive for your needs. I'm a contractor and I just recently upgraded to this for my every day drill and I love it. The light is perfect, the belt clip is nice for climbing ladders with it, it's lights and much slimmer than the old 18v models. The battery gauge is cool too. My only complaint is there's no where to store bits on it without buying an add-on bit clip.

Snappy is a small US tool manufacturer. I have a couple of kits similar to this one that make swapping drills and drivers really easy. The seat in the adapter with just a push, and to remove you need to pull back a spring-loaded collar so they don't just fall out.

A chamfer or deburring tool looks just like the angled portion at the end of a countersink bit, just without the hole down the middle. I use them when I don't have a countersink bit that's properly sized for the hole I'm drilling. They look something like this and I've found them in both big-box stores and my local woodworking shops.

I use Ryobi for my cordless brands largely because they're cheap and I have a bunch of batteries accumulated over the years. The standard driver without a battery is showing $38.49 on Amazon right now. I have about a dozen of their various lithium batteries, a couple of the standard one port chargers that came with some tools, and a six port charger hanging on the wall.

I'm one of those guys who tends to think that a drill is a drill. I'm not a heavy enough user to notice the performance and reliability increase available in something like a Makita driver. Two of my cordless drills, for example, were purchased about 12 years ago when Ryobi first debuted their 18V line of tools and they're both going strong.

Another thing to keep in mind is the cost of the batteries. My batteries run between $60 and $100 each depending on when I purchased them and how the sales line up at the local Home Depot (Ryobi is their "house brand"). The batteries tend to lock you into the manufacturer's system, as a Ryobi battery isn't going to fit anything else; likewise Makita, DeWalt, and all of the others. The rest of the tools in that Ryobi line are pretty crappy. I won't even use the jigsaw any more because it won't track perpendicular in even 1/2" Baltic birch ply; the circular saw is anemic and underpowered and sits permanently attached to my Kreg Rip-Cut jig for quick rough cutting. The angle grinder is OK, but chews through batteries like they're candy.

(EDIT: added that last paragraph.)

I’ve had really good luck with my DeWalt drill. It would be perfect for all the task you describe above. You can find it here. I’m not sure how difficult Amazon international shipping is though.

I am also a new homeowner and I just bought a Ryobi One+ 18 volt drill (and set) that I am loving. It's lithium ion battery and Ryobi has a huge line of tools that all work with the same battery. I bought a set that included a drill, a circular saw, a reciprocating saw, an LED worklight, and two batteries. I bought it around father's day (in America) for $129. I like it so much that I told my husband that I want to buy several other tools to go with the set. Here is the drill tool only link on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Ryobi-Lithium-Keyless-Batteries-Included/dp/B007WGET4S/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=ryobi+one%2B&qid=1571245230&sr=8-4

I'm sure there are better or less expensive brands, but for what I need (basic home maintenance, simple DIY, emergency flashlight for power failure) this has been a great product.

File this under life pro tip more than buy it for life... This $20 cordless AA battery powered drill can drill small holes, screw things in, etc. All I need for an apartment. It uses proprietary bits and is built like a toy, but compared to buying a $100+ unit with batteries that eventually die off...

I was looking around for a cool hand drill that was bifl when my gf got on my case about ... you know... actually putting up the drapes instead of shopping for drills... so I got this and it's a really good bottom of the barrel thing. Far better than the faux heavy duty 7.2 V etc drills out there.

Link: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-AD600-Accessory-Assortment/dp/B000077CPQ

• Pumie Scouring Stick - Best cleaning tool EVER. Seriously. Works great on toilets and tile among other things.
  
  
• Black and Decker 129 piece Home Essentials Tool Set - a good set of tools comes in handy.
  
  
• A Drill - I use mine all the time

Bosch 12V is probably a better bet if you really want a smaller/lighter drill & cylindrical batteries.

might want to look into a cordless screwdriver as well. Because you get the clutch of a drill, and the chuck of an impact driver.

or get the best of both + more

https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-GSR12V-140FCB22-Flexiclick-Driver-System/dp/B074GYX6XG

Holes saws are great and have their place, but the impact/ spade bit combo seem to be the ticket for 90% of my uses. Also, I didn't bother to look up what drill you have before, but now I see it's a newer dewalt. Get an impact driver, the difference is night and day. And if you don't have a spare battery, it's super convenient to not have to wait for a recharge while working. Bare tool $70 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007ML7GDE/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1484804561&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=dewalt+20v+driver&dpPl=1&dpID=415uG8%2BV3dL&ref=plSrch

Or with battery $100

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LBT3AZU/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1484804561&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=dewalt+20v+driver&dpPl=1&dpID=51oJlJzJjIL&ref=plSrch

That looks more like an electric screw driver in a drills form factor.

You might get better results with something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Decker-DR260C-5-2-Amp-Driver-8-Inch/dp/B00T2VJ93C/ref=sr_1_1?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1478633522&sr=1-1&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A9060578011

I don't own this unit so cannot recommend - just saying a corded drill will probably work better.

This is the drill I use.

It's a monstrous 8V and it works perfectly, in fact I like that it's slow so I can control it better.

Looks good but it costs a little bit more than I'd like (especially for this project). Do you think this is good?

Hey, I'm assuming he's just starting so, do not get him a combo set. That's foolish, he doesn't need an impact driver at all. Search for .home repair' and you'll find a ton. Some stuff to get you started:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-94-248-65-Piece-Homeowners-Tool/dp/B000UHMITE/ref=sr_1_4?m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&s=warehouse-deals&ie=UTF8&qid=1480266147&sr=1-4

 

https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-LDX120PK-20-Volt-Lithium-Ion/dp/B00C625KVE/ref=sr_1_15?m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&s=warehouse-deals&ie=UTF8&qid=1480266147&sr=1-15

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1621452018/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1118099400/ref=tmm_pap_new_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=&sr=

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EUH4TG/ref=s9_acsd_al_bw_c_multiimp_4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-5&pf_rd_r=SN6M6HFB4M7DNW76GTG1&pf_rd_r=SN6M6HFB4M7DNW76GTG1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=de121dcf-3645-4f43-a816-cf12556f7ae3&pf_rd_p=de121dcf-3645-4f43-a816-cf12556f7ae3&pf_rd_i=15469024011

 

sorry i don't have time to format but, good luck!

Yes, Allen/hex keys are retarded to use. You can use a powered screwdriver and a nice one is this:

https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-PS21-2A-2-Speed-Batteries-Charger/dp/B003BEE12U

Add bits, start with the little 1" ones that you use a holder with:

https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Tools-16061-61-Piece-Bit/dp/B002YKBDO6

Get a bit ratchet for real tight spots:

https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-03044A-Ratcheting-Screwdriver-Close-Quarters/dp/B000XYOUS6

Also a tip: with particle board furniture like Ikea's, use a bit of wood glue in the screw hole and on the screw before insertion. It makes it go in easier ;) and also keeps the particles from breaking apart. It doesn't form a permanent bond so disassembly is still easy.

No, these are not design for that type of work.. This is a powered screwdriver.. made for making quick work of installing outlets or working with machine screws.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-DR260C-5-2-Amp-Driver/dp/B00T2VJ93C/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1454109673&sr=1-3&keywords=corded+drill

There, same price and will do the job.

Also, please be careful when drilling into walls, make sure you are hitting the stud using a good stud finer.. even a strong magnet will do. Be careful of electrical wires, data runs and plumbing drains\vents.

What are you looking do to exactly, hang a picture? Mount a T.V?

You can get a relatively cheap tool kit like this (can't vouch for this kit, just an example) and it is easy to store and has most of what you might need for most small projects.

Along with that I would say that a drill (I have this one, it's great) with a bit set. With those things you can probably do most of what you would need in a home.

You can also get saws and stuff but those are less necessary unless you are trying to get into home improvement and renovation type stuff. The drill and tool kit will do you fine for typical home repair and such.

What's your budget? This set is awesome, and will handle basically everything you might throw at it around the house. In fact, its definitely overkill if you just need to hang a picture frame once a month, but the price is amazing for what you get. If cost isn't a huge issue, that set won't let you down.

This is a good cheap corded drill, which I recommend more than a battery operated drill, especially for the homeowner or apartment dweller that will use a drill only on occasion. Good luck.

I like my Bosch stuff. I didn't buy it as a kit, but I own the tools included in the CLPK224-181 kit.

I make my living as an Apprentice Electrician and I think this stuff is overkill for home use.

At work, the only time I use my drill is when I'm running unibits. Any other time, I use either my impact or my 12v drill.

Link to 18v: Bosch CLPK224-181 18-volt Lithium-Ion 2-Tool Combo Kit with 1/2-Inch Hammer Drill/Driver, Impact Driver, 2 Batteries, Charger and Contractor Bag https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OKGAIUW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ODh6BbWEAA6B4

Most of the drilling I do at work is into sheetmetal. My 12V does just fine.

Here is a 12V kit that meets your specs: Bosch 12-Volt Max Lithium-Ion 2-Tool Cordless Combo Kit CLPK241-120 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009K1HMBK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_oRh6BbPY6GA4F

They also make a 12V tool with changeable heads: Bosch GSR12V-140FCB22 12V Max Flexiclick 5-In-1 Drill/Driver System https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GYX6XG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B0h6BbA79AQ2A

That drill will fit in places the others won't.

I own and use a PS21 at work every day. With the 4.0ah battery, it goes a long time on a charge. I mostly use it to drive screws, with a good amount of up to 1/4" holes in sheetmetal electrical boxes.

go to your local home depot and look for this kit on the makita shelves and the clearance rack. The two stores near me have them at $90. I picked the non hammer drill and its brushless impact up a year or so ago. they are great tools.

I have also been seeing this kit for $250 on their shelves.

Makita Brushless Drill kit

Makita 12v brushless Impact

Makita 12v Brushed kit


the Milwaukee m12 stuff is also good. I prefer the handle design on the makita stuff and how you can set the tool down standing up without the larger 4.0ah battery. Milwaukee does have a lot more tools in its 12V line up.

check the clearances and then wait till black friday if you can. there are always deals.

Yes, this is a much cheaper option, just need some labour hour:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I33UG8C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T2_vN.pzbPA9WWVN

This'll probably work too: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KL4UI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T2_6O.pzbMNCAMXZ

To save some time, this will do the trick nice and fast: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LBT3AZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T2_YQ.pzb7E4XC6F

Not bad, I wonder how it compares to this drill: http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DC970K-2-18-Volt-Drill-Driver/dp/B002RLR0EY/

I guess you get an extra box, but it seems like the dewalt gets better reviews, is 1/2" instead of 3/8", and is nearly the same price.

Thanks, for the advice. The lags were only 1.5"-2" so doing them by hand with a socket wrench wasn't that bad. If I'm going to get the impact driver I might as well get a combo kit.

Once again I'm looking at the Dewalt or Mikita. It's only a $20 difference, which should I go with?

Jigsaw - http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-JS515-Variable-Jigsaw/dp/B001CL4ZHK/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1405629429&sr=1-3&keywords=jigsaw

Bits - http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-71-081-Screwdriving-10-Piece/dp/B000RH3DW8/ref=sr_1_5?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1405629356&sr=1-5&keywords=power+drill

Power Drill - http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-DR260B-8-Inch-Driver/dp/B004FRXWRW/ref=sr_1_4?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1405629356&sr=1-4&keywords=power+drill

Tape measure - http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-33-115-10-Foot--4-Inch-PowerLock/dp/B00009OYGH/ref=sr_1_7?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1405629447&sr=1-7&keywords=tape+measure

Square - http://www.amazon.com/Swanson-SO101-7-inch-Speed-Square/dp/B00002255O/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1405629470&sr=1-1&keywords=square

You actually will have some more money for clamps and wood to make projects. There's a lot you can make for yourself with just these things and some creativity. Plus, it'll let you be pretty handy around the house.

Here's some essentials that I recommend picking up. They're all a bit pricey, but it's better to buy one pricey set and never buy another than buy ten cheap sets.

Screwdrivers: https://www.amazon.com/Wera-Kraftform-Screwdriver-Lasertip-6-Pieces/dp/B007NLPJN2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501608941&sr=8-1&keywords=wera+6-piece+screwdriver+set

Pliers: https://www.amazon.com/Tools-9K-00-80-Combination/dp/B00KBCM456/ref=sr_1_9?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1501609025&sr=1-9&keywords=knipex

Drill/Driver: https://www.amazon.com/Makita-XPH102-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Driver-Drill/dp/B01L84A470/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1501609078&sr=1-2&keywords=makita+drill or https://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-DCD771C2-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Compact/dp/B00ET5VMTU/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1501609100&sr=1-1&keywords=dewalt+drill

You can complete a polymer 80 with a file from walmart for like $6 and a power drill. Polymer 80's come with the drill bits you need. I did not use a dremel for my p80. While a vice might not be required, it would certainly help to hold everything steady. You could probably complete this with a 20$ black and decker drill too.

They're not that bad to be honest.

Adding something like this would be good too :).

I bought this drill set on Amazon and ended up breaking 2 pilot bits so had to buy more lol. Also I bought this saw and these clamps. Let me know if you have any questions and we can try to figure this out together!

Best advice I can give is to buy things as you need them. I added a bunch of stuff to my Amazon wish list (jigsaw, reciprocating saw, orbital sander, router, etc) and it really adds up, but I'm going to take it one step at a time so I don't blow my entire paycheck on tools.

My husband just got this one. He was very choosy, wanted it to be 1/2", cordless, keyless, variable speed, a certain amount of power, good brand, etc. - on the same budget. :) He never likes B&D.

Black & Decker BDCDMT120 20-Volt MAX Lithium-Ion Matrix Cordless Drill https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009VK6G8U/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_dg05xb5WQNMNQ

BLACK+DECKER BDCMTTS Matrix Trim Saw Attachment https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009V5C616/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_Kg05xb7XA6NXC

Best tool I've ever bought

Will these be flat TVs, or CRTs?

I only worked on flat screens, my kit:
0, 1, 2 Philips screwdrivers, 5/16" and 1/8" flat screwdrivers, A small 1/4" drive socket set with standard and metric sizes, Nylon spudgers (these are great tools for all sorts of things, buy them by the dozen), A small crescent wrench, Torx drivers T-5 to T-30 (security), Metric and standard hex key sets, Needle nose pliers, Locking hemostat or forceps, 5mm nut driver (for VGA screws)

A small rechargable torque limited driver also makes life WAY easier. I used this one: https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-PS21-2A-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Batteries/dp/B003BEE12U/

What type of budget does your team have?

How much space is available as your work area?

How experienced at building robots are the mentors?

What build system does you team intend to use? How many custom parts do y'all want to make?

What level of CAD skills does the team have?

We need to know these things to give valid advice. If your team has $100 to spend on tools the list is really different than if your team has $500. If your team has ~$4000 and really experienced mentors the list is also totally different.

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Let's assume your team has really limited budget and wants to make the most of it. I will also assume you are using the REV system.

Here is my minimum tool list:
5.5 mm Nut Driver - http://www.revrobotics.com/rev-41-1119/

5.5 mm wrench - http://www.revrobotics.com/rev-41-1374/

Allen wrench set - https://smile.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Hex-Allen-Wrench-Ball/dp/B0776C2D6H/

Rotary Cutter - https://smile.amazon.com/WEN-2305-Rotary-Tool-Shaft/dp/B003BYRFH8

Hand drill - https://smile.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-DR260C-Drill-Driver/dp/B00T2VJ93C/

Hack saw - https://smile.amazon.com/Tactix-267031-Adjustable-Hacksaw-Frame/dp/B00ABBUU2Q/
Bench Vice - https://smile.amazon.com/WEN-453BV-3-Inch-Heavy-Swivel/dp/B07KKXQQ3S

Metric Drill bit set - https://smile.amazon.com/Drill-Warehouse-99pcs-1-5mm-Titanium/dp/B01NC25BRK

Pliers set - https://smile.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Tools-4-Piece-Pliers-Set/dp/B015X2NHOK


That works out to be ~$110 + shipping and tax. These are the bare minimum tools IMO. If you can answer the questions above I can give you some better advice.

- Frank

I'll second the sentiment on size and weight. If all you are doing is putting stuff in walls then 18 volt is over kill. I'm not a big dewalt fan, I have some of their stuff but my go to brands tend to be makita and then Bosch (with a recent liking of porter cable and Milwaukee). For what you are doing anything from a major brand in the 12 to 18 volt range is going to be fine. You might want to go to a hardware store and hold a couple to get a feel for them and judge the weight. In the 100 range, there really isn't a lot of difference. The other thing to consider is batteries, look for a kit with two if you can. Its always nice to know you have a charged spare.
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-PS31-2A-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Batteries/dp/B003BEE2LU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369011960&sr=8-1&keywords=bosch+12v+drill

I've got this one and absolutely love it. Comes with two batteries and enough torque to drill/screw everything I've needed it for so far.

Man I know the budget is limited, but Ni Cad is not the way to go!

You have a few options around that price. I would stick to a decent brand (DeWalt, Bosch, Milwaukee, Makita) and maybe look at a 12V to stay in that $100 range. Although maybe you can find a Black Friday deal on an 18V, but a 12V should be enough to get started and do basic DYI stuff around the house.

Here are a few options:

Bosch 12V Drill

DeWalt 20VMax Brushed or Brushless for about $20 more

Makita 12V Drill and Impact Driver Combo

Makita 18V Hammer Drill

Also Amazon is having a special on Makita, DeWalt and Bosch tools where any tool $100 or more gets $25 off.

Brushless gets you more run time, it's basically more fuel efficient. Just using around the house, you probably don't need brushless. The 790 also comes with 2.0 amp hour batteries (more capacity than the 1.5 Amp Hour 780 batteries).

There is also a lower price point drill (DCD771C2) that is brushed and comes with 1.3 amp hour batteries if you are looking to save money. it typically is on sale on black friday around $99. It's a little larger than the 780 and 790 and not as ergonomic http://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-DCD771C2-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Compact/dp/B00ET5VMTU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1413911751&sr=8-2&keywords=DCD780c2

I'd 100% agree with the other answer here that a drill isn't the right tool for the job.

An impact driver, despite being called a "driver" is also much better than a drill for removing bolts too, with much more torque - they're not just for construction. The only reason I'd go for a drill over an impact driver is if you also do a lot of drilling that the B&D can't keep up with, although I'd note that you can get drill bits for an impact driver too.

This DeWalt is the same price as the drill above, with 3x more torque

DeWalt power drill with bit set and angle adaptor. Perfect set for someone newly living on their own or for someone who just doesn't have their own power drill. The angle adaptor is particularly handy.

DEWALT DCD771C2 20V MAX Lithium-Ion Compact Drill/Driver Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ET5VMTU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_5qHqxbXAT6C30

Could check local hardware stores as well they sometimes have deals on dewalt or Milwaukee power tools. Those are the brands I tend to stick with, not saying others aren't good but they're tried and true for me.

Here's my list:
-Good sidewinder with electric brake https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RQ68V2/ref=psdc_552922_t2_B000N5SVEY Cast alloy foot is stiffer and less willing to bend when you drop it, beefy knobs permit easier and more accurate adjustment, brake prevents you from setting it down on the cord while the blade is still spinning.
-12 volt compact cordless https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-PS31-2A-Lithium-Ion-Batteries-Carrying/dp/B003BEE2LU
-Folding sawhorse/bench https://www.amazon.com/Target-Precision-RB-H1034-Sawhorse-Complete/dp/B00005A1KE
Total: $850

My wife kept complaining when I would bring my 18V Porter Cable tool kit upstairs and track saw dust and metal chips all through the house when drilling out holes in my 3D printed parts in my office. Tonight after work I was browsing around Lowes while waiting for traffic to clear up when I came across this 8-volt Black & Decker drill that charges via micro USB. The thing lacks any meaningful power, so I don’t think it would be capable of completing many tasks beyond drilling out holes and screwing fasteners into the parts I print.
Additionally, it only has 1 speed (400 RPM) which will probably be troublesome when drilling out holes in small parts, or holes with small edge margins.

Overall, I thought it was a nifty low-cost ($25) gadget that may be something you all would also be interested in.

Thank you for the reply. Sorry I'm very new to power tools. I noticed the brushless DCD790D2 is more expensive. Is it because it is brushless? And what advantage is there between brushless and with a brush.

Oh and the DCD790D2 says it uses lithium also: http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCD790D2-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Compact/dp/B00CSDIIXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413910182&sr=8-1&keywords=DCD790D2

Is there another model without lithium batteries?

If you only plan on using it occasionally I'd go with a black and decker, I bought one (https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-LDX120C-Lithium-Ion-Cordless/dp/B005NNF0YU) a year ago and it's perfect general homeowner use.

You're getting downvoted, but you are probably right. The batteries that were most commonly marketed as 18V were substantially heavier.

The difference is the battery tech: The 18V one would be NiCad, the 20V one is LiPo. LiPo's have much greater power density, so they use a smaller battery to get the same capacity. The also hold a charge considerably longer between uses and don't have the issues with memory.

You could also get a heavier battery by increasing capacity (more use between charges). That's probably not the case here since they would likely both be 20V if they were LiPos, but it's possible.

Edit: Err... LiIon, not LiPo.

Hello, complete noob looking for advice, i am looking up put some screws into my cement ceiling to install a curtain pole. Im on the fence looking to buy a power drill. I saw this product on amazon, its called Dewalts Dcd771c2 20v Anyone know if this product will be strong enough to get the job done?

I have this one and I really like it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01J7UPHIS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Oh, I searched tool set on Amazon, this has a cordless electric drill with a bunch of attachments, and a hammer and screwdriver and multiple pliers and a basic ratchet set and measuring tape and a case and a utility knife which I forgot to mention for $80: https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-LDX120PK-Cordless-Battery/dp/B00C625KVE/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=tool+set&qid=1562682580&s=gateway&sprefix=tool+&sr=8-6

DEWALT DCD790D2.
$228 on Amazon

Brushless (more efficient) + compact but longer life batteries. Combines to a relatively lightweight but longlasting cordless drill

Whatever brand you go with, make sure it's a lithium ion battery.

I've been using this one for about a year. It's a good, reliable drill.

Yes they fucking do

Let's see here.

drill - $89.00

bits - $14.99

grommet kit with punch - $14.99

So your solution costs $118.98

12 binder clips - $4.83

I have a cordless Black & Decker. I like it mainly because I have a leaf blower and hedge trimmer that use the same battery so I have spares when needed.

I recommend this for making them open-backed.

DEWALT DCD777C2 20V Max Lithium-Ion Brushless Compact Drill Driver https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01J7UPHIS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Pu.SBbND2XFXZ I like this 😚

I think he's specifically talking about this black and Decker stuff that looks really gimmicky to me https://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-BDCDMT120-Lithium-Ion-Cordless/dp/B009VK6G8U

Like https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-BDCMTHPI-Multi-Tool-Attachment/dp/B00FJX7YCU

Get yourself a cheap drill like so: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T2VJ93C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ALnPAb1XJ4REG or check out a second hand/thrift store. They come in handy for all sorts of things.

Something like this

Corded is fine, but most corded drills are not drill/drivers and don't have a clutch. If you go corded, I'd go for one with a clutch such as this from Ryobi. A standard corded drill would allow you to overtorque your bolts very, very easily and you could end up bending or breaking the furniture.

My two cents, don't get the Hitachi, get a cheap corded/cordless with a standard chuck (not a hex chuck) and a clutch. A cheap black and decker is half the price and will let you use standard drill bits in the future. Cut the 90 degree angle off the hex key and you can just use that as your bit in a standard chuck. Keep the clutch just low enough to tighten the bolts.

I use this guy, lots of power, not heavy, not too fat if you are working around stuff, I really like it.

Bosch

Edit: I imagine this would be even lighter, but I've never used it.

No, in order to drill anything you need an actual drill, not a screw driver. Also it looks like in order to hold the hole saws you would need a chuck and the driver doesn't have a chuck because it uses the same size bits for every use.
Edit: Link for cheapest drill I found on amazon that will work.

100% agree. You can get the bosch kit for just a small premium more than the harbor freight kit, and the Bosch is undoubtedly much higher quality.


I personally would splurge for the multi head kit, but that might be a bit too much money for a simple seldom used tool.

Well, you could always go this route:

https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/helor/helor-101

https://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-DCD771C2-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Compact/dp/B00ET5VMTU/

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18v dcd790 2x2.0ah batteries. From a local hardware/It's a black thing that sticks out a bit from the part where the battery attaches. On the opposite side there's a belt hook. Here's an amazon link to a similar model showing the magnet holder and belt hook.

the actual pic showing the magnet holder

I've been using probably the same General Precision Screwdriver as you for awhile now and it works great for most small screws. There are a few that require a bit of a wrist flick to loosen. I havn't broken it yet but I was lucky to get this PLUS the General Cordless Engraver for $10 for both so not a big deal if it gives out.

For larger screws I either use a Black and Decker 7.2v Lithium Cordless Drill (very lightweight but powerful) OR a Ryobi Tek 4 Cordless Screwdriver (a bit heavier but has light on the chuck, removeable rechargeable battery, and a '2' speed setting for quick removal of loose screws).

Everyone is listing serious work or weekend warrior drills. Don't get me wrong, Tim Taylor's "More Power" mantra is dead on. There is another class of drill, the kind I'll get my daughter when she gets her first apartment. Make sure it's a mix of bad-assery and cute. Accessorize... get a bit and driver set too. Don't overlook that it's the thought that counts. In fact print out the posting and responses.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-AD600-Accessory-Assortment/dp/B000077CPQ/ref=sr_1_11?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1396068851&sr=1-11

Be the change you want to see in the world.


BLACK+DECKER LDX120C 20V MAX Lithium Ion Drill/Driver https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005NNF0YU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_HSyLBb3SQVZRR

Just slip one of these in your carrying case!

These aren't are the droids drills you're looking for

A drill! So very practical of me.

Or how about a dart board

Agreed.

Dewalt DCD771C2 20V MAX Cordless Lithium-Ion 1/2 inch Compact Drill Driver Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ET5VMTU/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_MDpsyb1JK2N5H

Get this instead. Black & Decker LDX172C 7.2-Volt Lithium-Ion Drill/Driver https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005LTNLDI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_Z-pRwb9BYDFSK

https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCF885C1-20V-Impact-Driver/dp/B01LBT3AZU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482982083&sr=8-1&keywords=dewalt+impact+driver

I need a mandrel and a 3 1/8 hole cutter that can work with this drill https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-LDX120C-Lithium-Ion-Cordless/dp/B005NNF0YU/ref=sr_1_1?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1501613771&sr=1-1&keywords=black+and+decker+drill

> normal household hammer drill.

This is a 'normal household drill'. It is not a hammer drill.

I bought my 20v dewalt kit over the 18v because the batteries weigh half as much.

Edit: American dewalt 18v versus American dewalt 20v.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RLR0EY/ref=s9_hps_bw_g469_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=0Y8FEK8Y5MC72QRAC8WJ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1275635522&pf_rd_i=228292

A good cordless drill should not be skimped on. Cheap versions like ryobi, harbor freight, etc have terrible battery technology, and the things don't make it past a few charge cycles. Buddy of mine bought a ryobi cordless tool set, what a pile of junk. He only did one small shelving install with it and it wouldn't take a full charge.

Things to not skimp on:

• cordless drill. It's hard to beat this Dewalt 20V with two batteries for $99
  
  
• Multi-bit screwdriver.
  
  
• 8" adjustable wrench
  
  
• groove lock pliers
  
  
• Magnetic Stud Finder
  
  
• Hacksaw
  
  All of the above will cost about $150, should be enough for most home repairs, and will last a lifetime (Well, the Drill will last ~10 years or so, no battery powered thing is BIFL).
  
  
  Avoid these brands:
  
  black and decker
  
  Ryobi
  
  Craftsman
  
  
  These brands tend to make quality tools:
  
  Dewalt
  
  Makita
  
  Milwaukee
  
  Bosch
  
  Porter Cable
  
  Hitachi

Under $200 I would go for this Makita set. They're not quite as nice as the more expensive brushless models, but they are the 18V LXT series so they're compatible with other LXT tools in the lineup.

Upgrade to an 18v, 20v, or a corded drill. I use 12v makita and bosch drills all day at work and they are pitifully weak on purpose because we hang doors on solid cherry and maple framed cabinets. I also hang doors on solid oak and hickory framed cabinets and those 12v drills sometimes barely have the juice to drive a screw in to those even with pre-drilled holes.

Conversely, if you don't set your chuck appropriately with a 20v drill, you'll either strip your screw hole clean out in wood or hurt your wrist pretty bad when the drill kicks out in metal.

This is the exact model I own and it is a beast. I've had it for about 5-6 years now and love it.

I've heard a lot of people say that, and I won't deny it. But even as critical as I am of cheap manufacturing in China, I can't afford $270 for a drill when I can get another quality drill for $90. 3x the price just isn't doable, at least for an amateur.

One thing on the DeWalt products: There's a durability gap between their low end home owner type tool and their professional models. They cheaped out in the last several years on their production but the brushless sets still, as far as I've heard, hold up really well.

Example: This drill is likely to die on you after only moderate use. This drill will last much longer for $40 more.

Personally I run mostly Dewalt 20v tools. Was sold a rigid miter saw by a Milwaukee salesman (he was off duty) and he swore by it. I've loved it and have had 0 problems, plus they run a lifetime warranty on their products. Milwaukee is IMO at the top right now but you also pay for it.

It's that cheap for a fucking reason. That's not a "drill" that's an electronic screwdriver. Ain't gonna get shit done with that piece of trash.

If you want light, cordless, and not bulky, but still worth a damn, get shit like this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BEE2LU/

$50 Drill Attack


https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-LDX120C-Lithium-Driver/dp/B005NNF0YU?ref_=Oct_BSellerC_552794_1&pf_rd_p=947d67c1-8c99-58e8-9d82-41a275d7b383&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=552794&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=BWAFDYPPE1GXHHXGC5D1&pf_rd_r=BWAFDYPPE1GXHHXGC5D1&pf_rd_p=947d67c1-8c99-58e8-9d82-41a275d7b383

I got this one and its been mediocre. I was using a 1/2 inch spade bit to drill through about 1 inch of wood flooring and it simply couldn't handle it.

I thought an AC drill would deliver a lot more power.

But according to the above comment both the drill I put in the OP are shit so I'm open to any suggestions!

DeWalt makes a solid power drill that fits your budget. This is the one I have. Lots of power and durably built. DeWalt has many other tools that accept the same battery.
Here are a bunch more with various battery sizes. Not sure of the advantages of the various battery sizes, but I have no complaints with my 18v.

I love going to the flea market on the weekend. I live near Cincinnati and frequently hit up Caesars Creek and Pirates Cove (used to be Turtle Creek). It seems Caesar's has really died since they had a fire, everyone moved over to Pirates Cove.

It doesn't look like you have a lot of inside space. But maybe you can answer this for me. I often notice that a lot of inside vendors at the flea markets I go to are closed. Since the place is only open 2 days a week, this seems kind of odd. I mean, if you only have 2 days a week to make money, wouldn't you want to be there? But more often than not I'll walk through at 9 am and at least 1/4 of the vendors aren't open and its frequently the same ones every time. It seems to me if I ran a flea market I'd have a requirement that they need to be open, especially since people are paying to come in and shop ($2 for parking). Its only making the flea market management look bad when 1/4 of their vendors aren't there. I can't tell you how many times I've wanted to buy something but the owner isn't there to sell it to me. Whats the deal with this?

How do you manage vendors that just sell...crap? I see a lot of vendors that have been in the same spot for years that never have customers because what they sell is either over priced or just stuff no one wants. Do you only care as long as the vendor is paying their fees? Or, do you look to manage to ensure that you have quality vendors that people actually want to come in and shop with, rather than people just taking up space?

What about religious vendors? There is a booth at both Caesars and Pirates cove that has Jehova's witnesses accosting you as you walk by. Annoys the crap out of me.

How do you handle vendor / customer disputes? Eg - last year I was looking to buy a dewalt impact driver. There are several used power tool vendors at the flea markets I go to. One guy was asking $125 for a used dewalt impact, battery and charger. I said look dude, they go for cheaper than that new online - https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCF885C1-20V-Impact-Driver/dp/B01LBT3AZU $92 for a new unit with a carrying case. I offered $75, which he begrudgingly accepted. Later, I found him at another tool vendors booth pointing me out and warning them that I was making up prices online (uh...I showed him the amazon listing on my phone) in order to haggle people down. I just about went and talked to management, as this seemed unnecessarily childish. He didn't need to accept my offer, and he certainly didn't need to tell others I was some kind of scammer.