Reddit mentions: The best smoke & carbon monoxide alarms

Yay that your boss went for an Amazon GC :) It's great of you to share!

I really, really want a second gen Nest Protect smoke alarm. Kind of pricey but you get what you pay for in a good way! It's the best selling smoke alarm on Amazon. The company makes really good advanced products. They have dual sensors and a carbon monoxide alarm. No other alarm has that. They interconnect with each other wirelessly, and talk to give you information. They alert your phone and have different color alerts, and more. (Actually, I really want 3 of these, but 1 would be a good start. What we have are so old and crappy that I don't trust them at all. They are the $10 kind, and I should have replaced them at least 3 years ago.) I think this is what people need to be safe.

I also want this professional stainless steel mandoline badly, either one of the versions available, because it's built tougher than the others that have plastic parts. The reviews are so good, and I think it would outlast two of the others, and be easier to use, so it would be very worth it. A lot of the others don't cut as evenly or are difficult to hold and move the fruit or vegetable. I want this for making healthy homemade snacks.

I really need the Levo Deluxe holder for tablets so I can see and use my ereader and old tablet while I'm flat on my back. I'm planning ahead and trying to get the items that will help during recovery from surgery and I won't be able to prop up my head or use the laptop or TV. It's a bit expensive, but this is the second generation one that works better. This holder seems better than all the other ones I've seen because this can suspend the tablet facing down from above. This can also be great for mounting the tablet when you're sitting on the couch or bed, or at a desk, like pictured, so I would use it regularly. (The non-deluxe version is $54.99 on Amazon. They also have a version that stands on the floor instead of clamping on a table.)

I also would be so happy to have the pink vibrator from my NSFW list. I am not linking to it because of it being NSFW. It came out last year and won an award for the unique motion it has. It has some great reviews, and I would love to try it. I think most women should try toys like this one, even if you're currently happy, maybe this would be better!

Another thing that would be extremely cool and useful to have is a portable scanner that is really light and small. Any that's good, but I have put this color mobile document scanner on my wishlist. It has better reviews than the Epson and it's currently cheaper because a seller has refurbished ones available. It's quick and has such good reviews. This will help prevent things from getting lost and cluttered when we are out of town or just out in the car. I think these are going to sell out before you get a chance to decide because Amazon is ranking it number one for mobile scanners. A few minutes ago, the seller had 3 left, and now they have 2 left. But it says "more on the way" so hopefully these can be backordered or gotten later.

We got ours 4 years ago, I don't remember seeing combined detectors back then but to be honest I don't know that I would have ever looked. I WANTED a smart solution although when looking at the prices for these units now I found a ZWave compatible dual unit for $50... Definitely makes me reconsider what units to get when I convert my other ones...

Edit: For anyone interested here is the Z-Wave one

I standardized on Z-Wave and Zigbee stuff - more Z-Wave than Zigbee. I used a SmartThings hub in this house, and so I used these sensors. I put one under each sink in the house, plus one near the main stack in the basement and the hot water heater.

If I could, I'd also recommend adding a couple of HA CO/smoke sensors. Again, z-wave for me, but I used this First Alert model. If I get smoke or CO at any time, it alerts my phone, and I'm a huge fan of that.

One note on those smoke detectors - some places have highly specific laws on what smoke detectors you must legally have, and these do not match code where I live. I run double sets - one set that matches code and then this set for the HA side. It's not a problem to have more smoke/CO detectors, and it's a cheap and potentially life or property saving upgrade.

I tried to figure that out when integrating my security system, but gave up and went with a Leeo instead. IFTTT triggers a virtual switch. As a bonus, I have it change colors to show whether the security system is active.

For your own safety you should have a carbon monoxide detector in your residence. Even if the apparent complex will not pay for it. Under $30 is worth the peace of mind.
I recommend the type that plugs in to the wall, like this one.
https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-3-Nighthawk-Monoxide-Battery/dp/B00002N86A/ref=lp_495272_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1479592679&sr=1-1

I don't get your question? Zwave is Zwave. Is pretty much the most prominent and pervasive home automation communication protocol. So yeah, it's interconnected?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KMHXFAI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496306974&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=zwave+smoke+detector&dpPl=1&dpID=41jC0IWtWgL&ref=plSrch

You add this to your network, and then use your hub/controller software to respond etc. If you're not American, then make sure you get the global one.

I found mine while walking through a big chain home improvement store. But mine is basically this: https://www.amazon.com/Worry-Free-Kitchen-Lithium-Battery-P3010K-CO/dp/B00FHW7QRG But not the fancy lithium one.

And yes, chaining them all together is the best way to go. But if you can't do it due to wiring restrains or something along those lines, not the end of the world.

I have first alert zwave zcombo sensors (smoke/co) connected to homeseer. During an alarm all connected lights turn on and I am sent text messages.

You can use almost any zwave controller and zwave switches/lamp module/bulbs to achieve the same thing, though I recommend a controller that doesn't depend on the internet (aka smartthings, wink, nest, alexa)

For the price of 2 nest protects (@ $240) you can get a homeseer zee2 and two first alert zcombos. ($230+shipping). Then you have a lot more options and flexibility.

You could save some money on the controller with a hubitat elevation for $75. It has more radios but it isnt as flexible or as powerful as the Pi3 powered Zee2.

https://shop.homeseer.com/collections/smart-home-hubs/products/zee-s2-smart-home-hub

https://hubitat.com/products

https://shop.ring.com/products/first-alert-smoke-co-alarm-zcombo-g-z-wave
https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Wireless-Interconnected-Photoelectric/dp/B0064S9IQ4/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=First+alert+zwave&qid=1571790602&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-8

I bought a combination of these two:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YC535Q/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EVO7C2/

I like how they interconnect with each other so that if any of them alert, they all alert. It also has voice alert to tell you where and what type of hazard there is.

I installed 1 combo Carbon Monoxide on each floor of my house, and then the straight smoke detectors in almost every other room.

Nest protects Barely Go on Sale. I've seen Protects go for ridiculously cheap at walmart, but thats cuz they were discontinuing the stock on shelf. Aside from that, Protect go $80 to $100 average on Ebay/Offerup/Craigslist. If you aren't a nest Fan Boy, you can go with a $30 First alert Zwave smoke/carbon alarm. https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Detector-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI I was looking at the insurance Discount, but for Us, Liberty mutual had a higher Monthly rate, didn't justify the swap just for a smoke detector.

Bought one of these half racks in great shape for $100: https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/fitness-gear-2017-pro-half-rack-16fgeufgprhlfrckxgmu/16fgeufgprhlfrckxgmu.

 

Good rack, but the standard J hooks were covered in a nasty rubber that created rubber dust when the bar slid against it. Decided to cover the J hooks in UHMW instead.

 

Materials needed:

12x12x1/4" UHMW sheet (don't buy less than 1/4" thickness since you are going to be countersinking the screw holes): https://www.amazon.com/Molecular-Polyethylene-Standard-Tolerance-Thickness/dp/B00CPRDLAW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1493150072&sr=8-3&keywords=uhmw

Drill/drill bits

Phillips #2 screwdriver

Countersink bit (1/2" works well, something similar to this would be fine, it doesn't have to be a titanium coated bit since you're only counter sinking the uhmw): https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000F3SI2O/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1493158184&sr=1-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Countersink+bit&dpPl=1&dpID=51fQXRD5ZuL&ref=plSrch

A tap (I used 12-24 NC)

4 machine screws (I used 12-24 x 1/2")

Jigsaw or hacksaw (for cutting the UHMW)

 

Drill pilot holes in the J hooks, then run a tap through it to create threads for the screws. Go slow with the tap and use oil when tapping the threads. Cut the UHMW sheet to size with a saw. I tried using a hacksaw, but a jigsaw created much cleaner and straighter edges. Once the UHMW pieces are cut to fit your rack's J hooks, drill and countersink the screw holes in the UHMW. Attach the UHMW with the machine screws and you're done! UHMW doesn't work well with adhesives, so using screws is a more secure method of mounting the pads.

 

Once you've tapped the screw holes in the J hooks, it's very easy to replace the UHMW if it ever wears out. Just unscrew the old UHMW pads and attach a new pair.

Ours are very similar. One in each bedroom (3 of them). One in the hallway that covers the living room and kitchen. One in the garage. One in the basement outside the laundry room and utility room.

Best of all, if one goes off, they all go off. This is the main unit I got. The others don't talk. Oh, and they are loud as all get out. My neighbors hear them when they go off. Which I guess is a good thing.

Nest is an option, but at $99, it is a bit too steep for my liking.

Something like this will work http://www.amazon.com/Kidde-P3010K-CO-Worry-Free-Photoelectric-Monoxide/dp/B00FHW7QRG

interesting! here in germany, you get only counter sink bits, but they are solid in the middle and you can not put a drillbit through them. (like this: http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-CST1-2-Inch-Titanium-Countersink/dp/B000F3SI2O/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1407663444&sr=1-2&keywords=countersink+bit)

any clue what to search for an amazon or somewhere else to buy such tools?

all I can find on amazon is in this imperial system, not metric. any clues where to get these?

I own three of these and recommend them. I love that they talk and tell you what they’re alarming over. We’ve had them 2.5 years so far, no issues. It even has a hush mode voice command that works in case cooking sets it off.

I don’t think it’s mandatory to have them.

I have two nest thermostats, and Nest's cloud platform is so terribly limiting that I get angry every time I think about them. After what Google did to Revolv, I'm not buying any more home automation hardware from Google or Nest.

Unfortunately, it seems like Nest is the best on the market at the moment. I'm hoping First Alert can fix some of the issues with their onelink detectors (https://www.amazon.com/Onelink-Carbon-Monoxide-Battery-HomeKit-enabled/dp/B00R9O328M) or that Kidde comes out with a Wifi detector that doesn't require a cloud integration.

I know you're going to get a Carbon Monoxide detector, but I also recommend (just to keep things compact) getting a combination CO/Smoke detector. You can get multi-packs as well to put in different areas of your house. You should have one in the bedroom, hallway, kitchen, etc... depending on size of the place.

Yes, I normally run 20-48 hour prints. This just lets me sleep a little better. On top of all this I also have it in a spare room and a fire extinguisher as you enter the room, please additional WiFi some detector above the machine.

Installed inside the case and house.

First Alert 2-in-1 Z-Wave Wireless Smoke Detector & Carbon Monoxide Alarm, Battery Operated https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KMHXFAI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Avh1CbQQXDE1J

First Alert Z-Wave Smoke & Carbon Monoxide Detector

Sends me a text message if they go off when I am not home - I have 3 and they work good.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMHXFAI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

just an example, $23

https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-SCO5CN-Combination-Monoxide/dp/B000MXJ498/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1541205924&sr=8-3&keywords=smoke+co+detector&dpID=41nruI9lfrL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Edit: That being said, I highly recommend networked CO and smoke detectors such as the Nest Protect. But they're a lot of money... $75-200/ea.

To put one in every room and location needed in my house would cost 900 dollars. Not worth it.

Want the notifications, get 1 LEEO monitor for each floor.

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I make a living putting the wet stuff on the hot stuff. The proper placement of smoke alarms is worth far more than the cute functions of the nest--and my whole house is automated.

Leeo Smart Alert Smoke/CO Remote Alarm Monitor for iOS and Android https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XMX4GUC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_jzFgybBF9THW6

Well one of my big necessities is a smoke carbon monoxide detector. The only one I can find on the market is this one. I don't particularly care for this, and would like other options. Even on Apple's site this is the only one they show. Maybe there are more, but I'm not seeing it. If you know of any I would like to be informed.

1. Take one of the screws out.
   
2. Buy an appropriate countersink, like this one for a drill, or this one which is a hand tool.
   
3. Watch this video for technique.

> How are private ambulances comparable to private firefighters?

They both provide life-saving services and require expensive equipment to fulfill their job.

> Is that $150 hydrant up to American code?

What's the American code? And how much does it cost to bring $150 hydrant up to the "American code"? I'm pretty sure it's not $8850.

> A smart watch costs hundreds. And you have to charge it nearly every day. And you need to be connected to WiFi, or have a cell plan, which is extra. What if the power goes out?

A smartwatch does a lot more than what the smoke detector needs to do. A top-of-the-line smart smoke detector costs $100, that's petty change in comparison to the cost of a $200,000 home.

And if the power goes out, then it's a signal for the fire department to give you a call to check if everything is OK.

> The private firefighters.

Since Building B has property insurance, the private firefighters would show up to put out the fire. And depending on the circumstances, the property insurance of Building B may cover damages to neighboring buildings. Most property insurances have liability coverage for damages to third parties.

wow brings back some memories, we used to have this https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-3-Nighthawk-Monoxide-Battery/dp/B00002N86A/ref=pd_sbs_60_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=0KB8PPW6RE4FYF346NZR
in an old house I lived in and it went off once when a neighbor was doing construction and had a large generator running all day

Z-wave battery operated ones exist from FirstAlert, but why they don't make a hardwired version is beyond me.

Maybe the Leeo will work for you? Yes it's a detector for your detector.
https://shop.leeo.com/pages/about-leeo-smart-alert

The Smartthings community seems to talk about it:
https://community.smartthings.com/t/leeo-smart-alert-integrate-non-z-wave-smoke-detectors-with-st/56697

Yes, I’ve looked at the Insteon smoke bridge. But as you say, the selection of compatible products isn’t great, and the features and compatibility are confusing and poorly documented.

For example, First Alert seems to offer only a single hardwired device with ONELINK, the First Alert SA521CN. But the SA521CN is only a smoke detector, it doesn’t detect CO. I could pair this with a unit which does do smoke+CO like the First Alert SCO501CN-3ST -- but that unit isn’t hardwired so it does me no good.

Then there are First Alert devices which are “interconnected” but lack ONELINK. For example the BRK SC9120B is a hardwired smoke+CO detector which is “interconnected” but lacks ONELINK. Maybe I could buy one of these and pair it with a SA521CA to give ONELINK capability? :(

Buddy, sorry, you are right it is $44 for a ZWave smoke/CO that can do everything you said:

First Alert 2-in-1 Z-Wave Smoke Detector & Carbon Monoxide Alarm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KMHXFAI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_89B2BbM9YCP3R

But hey, if you really love the Protect, buy it, just don’t be disillusioned by it. It’s not special and it’s way overpriced.

Looks like it's the same one I bought from Amazon, or at least it mentions the G in the product description. It paired up just fine with Abode.

Z-wave smoke/CO2 detector:

https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Detector-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI ($44.96 Free Shipping for Prime Members)

Can't really go wrong with a Nest Protect really.

For example, this Nest detector is hardwired but doesn't use the interconnect wire.

I'm looking for something like this, but that does use the interconnect wire?

I have no idea about heal tolerances, but I found one that wirelessly connects to others, so if one goes off they all go off. I hooked up 3 of these in my house that doesn't have any hardwired smoke detectors.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064S9IQ4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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EDIT: Alternatively, you could get one of these which connects to smartthings hub, so if it goes off you could get notifications on your phone. I actually bought 3 of these as well:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMHXFAI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Kidde Nighthawk has a nice LED readout you can see from across the room.

AC powered with a 9V battery backup.

Yes, the new first alert wifi - wired interconnect units. I replaced one detector in a central that was hard wired and interconnected. These when activated will set off the other units. I have some hardwired kiddie units ( smoke, smoke - co , a heat detector and a strobe ) these first alerts activate them also. These are available at lowes Onelink Wi-Fi Smoke + Carbon Monoxide Alarm, Hardwired, Apple HomeKit-enabled https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R9O32J6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_yaVLwb7H8QR6J

Edit: I see that there are mixed reviews, I got mine the first day available and they were kinda hard to pair and work with, an app and firmware update was delivered and I don't have anything negative to report

This one, safe and sound is crazy expensive

Onelink Smoke Detector and Carbon Monoxide Detector | Hardwired | First Alert https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HYQZ52Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8EwxDb5YT3ZEC

I JUST installed three of these--one on each floor of my house. Combination smoke detector + carbon monoxide detector. $32 each on AMZN:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PC5S0PA/

After installation, I pressed the button to test it, and it beeps loud A.F and then a female voice says "smoke detected" or "carbon monoxide detected". Freaking awesome.

Have you considered SafeAwake?

Personally, I have First Alert ZCOMBO and a separate Z-wave strobe/siren.

Assuming you are using Z-Wave:

Hard-wired Interconnected, Z-Wave Smoke/CO detectors don't exist to my knowledge. First Alert has one that has wireless interconnections.

You could get creative with some cheap door contacts and utilize the on-board alarm relays of conventional smoke/co detectors.

I think the best return on your money is figuring out what is causing the false alarms.

Some guidelines that deal with common false alarms:

• Kitchens, Bathrooms, the areas immediately outside kitchen/bathrooms, Furnace/Boiler Rooms - Use Heat and CO detection only.
  
• Move any smoke detector that is in path of any air supply vents or returns.
  
• Large temperature swings can cause false alarms in most detectors (front of doors leading to the outside or garage).
  
• Having detectors in areas that get below freezing or above 100F.
  
• If you have an open floor plan, that complicates smoke/air propagation from the kitchen and bathrooms.

This First Alert smoke/carbon dioxide detector is nice.

Well, there is of course the Nest Protect, which is wifi-based. No web interface, and requires their app to set up. It can be configured out of the box to email you alerts, and the alert settings are configurable (email vs text vs app notification, and for which alerts/conditions).

There is also the First Alert Smoke/CO Combo, which is Z-Wave based. Again, no web interface. You would rely on your hub for configuring your notifications.

Do you have any sort of hub or smart home devices already?

Or just you bought some new alarms and trying to make them work?

Edit: are these the ones you are talking about?
First Alert 2-in-1 Z-Wave Smoke Detector & Carbon Monoxide Alarm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KMHXFAI/

Amazon has them for $40.
http://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Carbon-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI

No problem, looks like you need to just replace it, since it's the harness type just replace the device and leave the wiring, see if you can silicone the holes were the wiring is coming in since it appears to be powered by 120, here is one that looks to be the same connection type http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00O8MVW12/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1449790458&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=brk+first+alert+9120&dpPl=1&dpID=41OrDmD736L&ref=plSrch Looks to be a house smoke and not connected to a separate panel somewhere , hope this helps

Last time I bought one (December) Amazon shows I paid $26 for this one.

Direct non-spam link

Not so much, this one is $25.

https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-SC9120B-Hardwired-Monoxide/dp/B00O8MVW12/

I gave up on these. I took all of them out and replaced them with combo Smoke / CO2 detectors that are linked to my SmartThings hub as part of my home automation. I can now see the battery status in real time as well as silence alarms. I also get notifiers to my smartphone so if "something" happens while I'm not home I know about it.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMHXFAI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Can't turn it off, but it can be silenced: https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Detector-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI

Right. I have one that plugs into an outlet, with a battery backup, but my outlets are more toward floor level.

This is the one I have:
https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-3-Nighthawk-Monoxide-Battery/dp/B00002N86A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491400612&sr=8-2

$34 with Prime

If you are buying smoke detectors, look for the smoke / carbon monoxide combos.

Such as this one for $25 on Amazon

You need to find one that has a reading I think.

You should also consider Leeo

https://smile.amazon.com/First-Alert-Detector-Carbon-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI/

You should really invest in some carbon monoxide detectors.

Un-shortened URL: https://www.amazon.com/Nighthawk-Operated-Monoxide-Digital-KN-COPP-3/dp/B00002N86A

Here are some options:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HYQZ52Q?aaxitk=lhGbCtll3qpPKnKQ5d9wng&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077Y6CL7M/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B077Y6CL7M&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=f0dedbe2-13c8-4136-a746-4398ed93cf0f&pd_rd_wg=rHzFr&pf_rd_r=MMY8ANH0H3TPPBDQD01V&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=38OLz&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=ade8b386-f4d5-11e8-925d-3fca922f2bc9

https://reddit.com/r/HomeKit/comments/9z77m5/netatmo_smoke_alarm_extensive_review_with_kevin_p/

I just installed 2 of these First Alert Z-Wave smoke and carbon monoxide combo models that are reporting battery level and alarm status.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMHXFAI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have two First Alert Z-Wave smoke/CO detectors - 30% of the Nest price with essentially the same functionality.

The SmartThings "Notify Me When" SmartApp can send SMS messages to any phone worldwide when any smoke alarm triggers.

Glad that you're all right! Yeah, CO is very scary because you won't know what hit you until it's too late. Get at least one for each floor of your house, particularly the basement. This is the model I have in my house. It's pricier than those that are battery only, but after having a few CO alarms scare the shit out of me with their beeping (which was just to indicate that the battery is low), I prefer those that can be plugged in, AND have a numeric counter so I'll know whether it's really CO or just the the backup battery that needs to be replaced.

First Alert (very common manufacturer of detectors) has a zwave alarm for $39 on amazon. I think contractor grade alarms are $10, so not a huge cost....at least compared to going with Nest.

I lost everything when my house burned down completely, so I'm a bit more paranoid about it than the avg. person. Fire marshal said that it had started hours before it was reported (I lived in area with 1/2 acre lots, so neighbors weren't exactly close, but weren't far either). Now I have the option to call a neighbor and ask them to go check on things if I get an alert.

https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Detector-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI/

SmartThings uses ZigBee too! One example of a Z-Wave device not working for me on the Wink is the First Alert Smoke and Carbon Dioxide Detector, and I have three of them. I tried adding one yesterday to test it out again, and it said under the Wink Hub menu that it was a "Failed Node" and only gave me the option to replace or delete it. Even on the Amazon page, it says it's not compatible with Wink.

They make ones for kitchens that avoid the nuisance trips. We replaced the one in our kitchen, and since we have it hasn't gone off even when broiling a steak in the oven. Before it would be triggered by even the slightest big of smoke/steam in the kitchen.

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-P3010K-CO-Worry-Free-Photoelectric-Monoxide/dp/B00FHW7QRG

I would think something like this automatic extinguisher to actually deal with any fire that might have spread to anything combustible plus some kind of wifi/zwave/etc enabled smoke detector, a home automation hub, and a toggle-able outlet to kill the power and prevent any continuous ignition source.

Personally, I recently got a Smart Things Hub and have been considering something like this smoke alarm with one of the many toggle-able outlets. Smart Things allows you to setup rules and what not so if the alarm goes off, power down the outlet. There might be cheaper/better options but that's what fits in with my home automation equipment.

Here you go: Kidde KN-COPP-3 Nighthawk Plug-In Carbon Monoxide Alarm with Battery Backup https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00002N86A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.NFMAb3B1N75P

Nest Smoke Alarm may work for your needs. It is quite expensive though. https://www.amazon.com/Nest-Protect-Monoxide-Battery-Generation/dp/B00XV1RCRY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518308016&sr=8-1&keywords=nest+smoke&dpID=61jwqMuQ6VL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Yeah, thats not what I am saying. I know all smoke alarms must be replaced every 10 years to be up to code. Some have a 10 year battery so you don't have to shovel out for new batteries every year. I never said a smoke alarm can last longer than 10 years. What he was saying above is that they standardized 12 years ago for sound of devices, meaning if people follow the code (most people don't unless it is brought to their attention at the time of selling a home) every home should have standard smoke alarms installed for hearing aid comparability. I currently have a couple of 10 year sealed units in the bedrooms because Costco had some on sale about a year ago, I just want the rest of the house to interact with our security system to call the fire department in one form or another if there is an incident. If that be via a listener, or via a z wave or interconnected model, that's what I am researching right now for my situation.

In closing, yes replace your fire alarms every ten years at the longest.

10 year sealed: https://www.lowes.com/pd/First-Alert-10-Year-Battery-Powered-3-Volt-Smoke-Detector/50235663

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9v battery: https://www.amazon.com/Electronics-SCO2B-Carbon-Monoxide-Battery/dp/B00ET2NW8W/ref=sr_1_29?keywords=smoke+alarm&qid=1565579650&s=gateway&sr=8-29

Wow.... Don't anyone install sump pumps anymore?

I just replaced some of my smoke detectors with these.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O8MVW12/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Drop in replacement for homes that have detectors built into the home and wired for electrical power.

No worries. I have this First Alert smoke and CO detector. It's been working well, and does report the battery status, accurately in my experience.

https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Detector-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486137045&sr=8-1&keywords=z+wave+smoke+co

co2 != carbon monoxide (I know it was a several slips of the tongue but it's in the "show notes" too.)

10 year combined smoke and carbon monoxide detector

Meets Ul217 & Ul2034 Standards & Complies With Legislative Requirements For 10-year Battery Operated Smoke Alarms

I'm not

This is the smoke detector I got https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMHXFAI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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I have this for the plug https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073GV2PQY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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This hooks into smartthings. For my Google Home stuff I made a video showing how to turn your speakers into a doorbell. But it works the same way when you want to make an alarm for your smoke detector. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYdvZVI7KFA

What's odd is I got one to pair up properly. But the other 2 are being bastards. These are the ones: https://smile.amazon.com/First-Alert-Detector-Carbon-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI/

I usually get the Kidde combo detectors. However, the lithium versions seem to have more complaints than the replaceable battery versions. Have installed those in two houses and knock on wood no issues. https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-P3010K-CO-Worry-Free-Photoelectric-Monoxide/dp/B00FHW7QRG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518454513&sr=8-1&keywords=P3010K-CO&dpID=41v4MMQ%252BP-L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

EDIT: Man, the reviews are bad on the 10 year models. Not sure why they are so bad, as the wired w/replaceables are 4-5 star reviews.

I'd buy it again but we got a hell of a steal and that's one of the main reasons I'd say that.

The safety features are also a big sell. We're in FL and the house being rated to 165+ mph winds was a big bonus. Older homes even in the 2000s aren't up to that. New fire alarm styles and also since you're building new you'll babe the 2017+ electrical code which is super nice. Speaking of fire alarms if you cook at all you'll need to switch the type you're using in some areas. I think it's photovoltaic that you want which don't trigger as easily from cooking fumes.

This is the one I bought that ties hardwired into the DWH wiring we had. I looked far and wide for a zwave enabled one and didn't find anything.
Firex AC Hardwired Combination Carbon Monoxide & Photoelectric Smoke Alarm KN-COPE-IC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ECX0VVY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_ZtrXUeBCAmH8o

Those also do CO but I highly recommend also getting a floor level plug in CO detector especially if you have kids. On that note I don't know much about natural gas but I've tried to get into it. I'd eventually like a gas dryer and a gas fire pit and a gas hookup for an emergency generator. If you know more about this let me know.

That includes special breakers for bedrooms which are much more fire resistant.

Also it was nice to not have to fix much. It was priced well below the existing stock and didn't need $35k in reno to make it livable.

On the water softener I would highly recommend installing it yourself based on how stupid proof it was. If not, definitely buy your own and hire a plumber. I used Ohio pure water online.

Can you upgrade the LED lighting to something else, perhaps dimmable? I'd pay for that. The builder grade ones are terrible. I've bought new ones to replace but it's going to be a pain.

Also pay attention to the landscaping. We've had two trees die because they did a bad job putting them in.

Outdoor wiring would also be a big one but you could probably just pay for it yourself. I'm just cheap so I do it myself. I ran dedicated breakers for Christmas lights and other decorations and such so I could turn them on and off easily. I'm into /r/homeautomation so I'm big on that.

Replace your locks right away. I use these because they have no key to pick or bump.

Kwikset 15 CP RCAL RCS 905 Keyless Deadbolt, Satin Nickel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BS6MSPX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_hB2mvDa5NccZC

Sure! I'll always answer questions related to something I know a lot of parents worry about.

Code requirement, for new construction (meaning you are building new, or performing a 'substantial' renovation) require a hard-wired, single breaker, smoke/CO system (meaning all the detectors are physically wired together and draw their power from a single breaker, with nothing else on it). You are required to have 1 CO/Smoke combination detector within 15 feet of all bedroom doors (and 1 detector can cover multiple doors if within a 15' radius, but if you have a bedroom by itself in the house, it requires a combo detector there. Also, a room with a closet is consider a bedroom if it is not a bathroom.) The code also requires a smoke detector IN every bedroom. Let's see if I can get my Reddit fu working here.

Code Requirements for NEW construction

• All wired together and drawing power from the building, not primarily battery.
  
  
• 1 Combo smoke/CO within 15' of a bedroom door, or room used for regular sleeping
  
  
• 1 Smoke INSIDE each bedroom
  
  So those are the BASIC requirements for new builds. Updating your own home comes with the caveat that there are generally no permitting or inspection requirements for this. So code might as well be moot.
  
  To answer your question directly: You CAN put combo detectors everywhere. The only cost to you is money. Combo detectors everywhere will aid you in detecting someone doing something stupid (not saying you WILL but I've seen it), like putting a kerosene heater inside because it's cold. However, you MUST, AT LEAST, put combo detectors in your hallways. Think of the logic. The detector must be in a place where it is in the presence of CO, and CO is only produced by combustion items. It is highly unlikely that there will be a CO producing item in a bedroom, but it is highly likely that your furnace downstairs could produce CO, which will then travel through your hallway. By time it reaches your bedroom, it could be throughout your house. In short, putting combo detectors in bedrooms, and only fire in your hallway, is a recipe for disaster.
  
  Now, here's the good news and one of the wonders of modern technology. When you purchase your detectors I recommend you purchase enough to replace your ENTIRE house. Do not mix old and new, Yes, I know, expensive. Also, replace your detectors with a recognized brand, with wireless interconnect like this Kidde Combo alarm,, or this First Alert alarm. What the interconnect feature means is that if one alarm goes off in your basement (or wherever is farthest away from you asleep), the alarm that is IN your bedroom will also alert. One goes off, they all go off. This interconnect is a requirement of the code, but again, with no inspections people tend to cut corners.
  
  As for placement, for example, I have a detector in every room of my house that could possibly have someone sleeping in it. One outside the bedroom doors in accordance with the 15' requirement. One at the top of my stairs because smoke and fire rises, that detector will likely get the alert first. One is in my boiler room, where CO is likely to come from first. I also have a standalone detector in there because I like redundancy. Word of caution. Do not place detectors in your attic (too hot, will kill detector resulting in false alerts), or in bathrooms or outside bathrooms (steam produces false alerts). Also, put a detector OUTSIDE your kitchen door, but not IN the kitchen.
  
  In short, you can't have TOO many detectors (as long as you adhere to the word of caution above). The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) reports that 3 out of every 5 fire deaths resulted from either no detectors, or detectors that were dead/disabled. There is NO excuse to not have functioning detectors.
  
  I can always elaborate on anything, this is kinda my thing ;)
  
  DISCLAIMER. CO DETECTORS WILL DETECT CO IN VERY SMALL QUANTITIES. REGARDLESS OF THIS FACT, TREAT EVERY CO ALERT AS A LIFE THREATENING EMERGENCY. CO GAS CAN INCREASE RAPIDLY AND OVERWHELM YOU. SHOULD YOUR CO DETECTOR GO OFF, CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT