(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best sports & outdoors outdoor clothing

Moving sale! Got fired from my job and now I'm going back home so I have a lot of odds and end type shit and some furniture I want to get rid of. Prices are fixed, but only because I'm already lowballing everything because I just want to get rid of it. I'll post pictures of the actual item based on interest.

Things I'm offloading right now:

edit: New Stuff!!

• Assorted beer glasses - two tall pilsner glasses (22 oz) (has a logo like this on the glass), small 3 oz taster glasses (3) one from Sam Adams, one from Wachusetts Brewery, one from the Copenhagen Beer Festival - Pilsners are $2/each and tasters are $2 for all three.
  
  
• Assorted wine glasses (3) - $1/each
  
  
• Digital Food scale - $2
  
  
• This type of waffle maker. I think it's a black and decker, just all black colored, entirely plastic. Used but in great condition. - $5
  
  
• Orange Safety Vest - $2
  
  
• Two paper coveralls (Tyveks) - $2 for the pair
  
  
• Orange work gloves. They're insulated a bit so they'll keep your hands warm and have a rubber palm/finger grip.
  
  
• Hand warmers...I have 4 or 5 packs. - $1 a pack
  
  
• Vacuum cleaner. So it's seen better days but it still gets the job done. Canister style vacuum, has primary floor attachment with a beater brush, solid floor attachment, wand attachment (the narrow high suction thing for getting under tight spaces), a bristle brush, and a smaller upholstery attachment with a beater brush built in for doing things like couches, cars, etc. There is something wrong with the connection between the primary floor attachment and the handle because recently it only operates the beater brush when the handle is turned at an angle. Like I said, it's seen better days, but it still works fine and would be a great vacuum for a shop or secondary thing to clean places that are typically dirty. Whole thing is $5 + some bags. Maybe you can fix it :)
  
  
• 1.5ish ft by 2ish ft rubber entry mat. Used it to change my shoes after a muddy hike without trying to balance around and getting my feet wet or dirty. Take a hose to it and everything cleans right off. - $1
  
  
• This Floor lamp - $5. Add $1 and you get bulbs!
  
  
• These tire chains. New, never used (still sitting in the box amazon sent it in unopened), model QG1142. Bought it to fit a 2008 Honda CRV stock tires. And these rubber tighteners. Also brand new, still sealed in packaging unused. They go together, $20 for both.
  
  
• This Leaf Antenna. Bought it in January, it's been sitting next to my TV. Delivers crystal clear, uncompressed broadcast channels. I used it to watch football for a month and get the morning news, works perfectly here in the city. I'm leaving a F/F coax connector with it so if you want to run a longer cable, you can. $5
  
  
• FitBit HR Charge (original). Color is black. I have two of them and three charging cables. $20 each + charging cable.
  
  
• This silverware tray. Fits in a standard sized drawer and has an expandable slot. $5
  
  
• Brand new black and decker iron. Still in box. $5
  
  
• Black and Decker toaster oven. Like new, been using it for 3 months to make small batch cookies, toast sandwiches, cook biscuits, and heat up food. I think this is the model, if not exact it's near identical. Has all pans and racks, black. Goes up to 450F. $10 Sale pending
  
  
• This paper towel holder. $3
  
  
• This table from Fred Meyer. Still brand new, sealed in box. Never had a chance to set it up. $75
  
  
• A 3 foot, True Temper square shovel. Almost new, used it for work a few times. Only a couple months old. Looks kinda like this shovel. but not quite the same. Black grips instead of red. $10 Sale pending
  
  
• ID badge holder. Holder also prevents proximity based copying...or something like that. It was given to me when I worked for the gov several years back, I don't know. $1
  
  
• Two boxes of nitrile rubber gloves. Large and XL. Used maybe 3 pairs of XL but both are opened. $4 for both boxes. Sale pending
  
  
• Stack of white envelopes. Idk...write me a poem.
  
  
• Knife block. Your basic multipiece knife block. Steak knives, chef knife, carving knife, etc. Also comes with some kitchen utensils like a large plastic spoon, a spatula (I think) and a few other odds and ends. It's one set - $5.
  
  
• These bottles of Nikwax waterproof restoration stuff. Never used, $5.
  
  
• This napkin holder. New. Been sitting on my table for a month holding napkins. $5
  
  
• A copy of the Kite Runner. Used, but little wear and tear. $1
  
  
• The Unthinkable. $1. Sale pending
  
  
• Zombie Survival Guide. 1 poem.
  
  
• ATT cordless handset phones. Two handsets. One main docking station that has a voice mail built in and a secondary dock for the other handset. Still have the manuals too. $5
  
  
• I have two stethoscopes. They're in pretty good condition, one never been used, the other was used last years ago and only for a brief period. Both in good condition. $10 for the pair.
  
  
• Metal measuring spoons and measuring cups - $5
  
  
• This TV stand. Color black. Surprisingly well built for "cheap" furniture. I have one back where I'm moving and it's held up great for 5 years. $75
  
  
• Coffee Maker. I think it makes 4 cups, I'll have to check. It's a small one that I basically had for guests as I don't drink coffee. - $5 sale pending

As my graduation present I got myself the Seiko SNE107. The watch (as most Seikos are) is of superb quality. however, I've never seen this watch specifically get any love. The watch has a case diameter of 42 mm. The bezel is very nice, not too loose and not too tight. The watch is pretty heavy, but that is to be expected when buying a diving watch. Screw down crown works well, no wobble. Hardex crystal is good. Only complaint is the pin and collar bracelet. Also, the bracelet is a little small for the watch IMO. That can be easily fixed with a NATO/Rubber strap. The hands are are nice and its very easy to read. The lume is great, nothing to complain about at all. The day date function is nice, Saturday and Sunday are different colors than the weekdays for those that like that. The watch is solar powered, but that should be no turn off, leave the watch in the sun for a couple hours when first receiving the watch and you'll be good. Overall it is a fantastic watch for its price, I do recommend it.
Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SNE107-Stainless-Steel-Bracelet/dp/B004JONRWG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465688492&sr=8-1&keywords=Seiko+SNE+107

You have a few choices. You could either go quartz or automatic. Quartz is where you have a battery (and sometimes solar charging), and automatic is when the movement of your wrist winds a little spring in the watch. Automatic watches require resetting every few weeks because they are not as accurate, but some people think they are cool. I will assume you don't want to deal with that, but if you do, something from Seiko would be your #1 best bet for sure.

http://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SRP309-Classic-Automatic-Watch/dp/B00AJK9CL4/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1457419081&sr=8-15&keywords=seiko+diver

This particular watch (which is what I am wearing right now) looks delicate but by all means, it is not. It is meant for scuba diving so you can swim with it and it is very durable to the point where I have accidentally used it to block a lacrosse shot and it survived without a scratch.

If you want to go Quartz, and for 200$, probably solar, you will want to go Citizen.

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-AW1361-10H-Avion-Stainless-Leather/dp/B00KCF7JL6/ref=sr_1_3?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1457419158&sr=1-3&nodeID=6358540011&keywords=citizen+watch

I don't have a citizen myself but they are very highly reviewed over at /r/watches.

You could also go another rout and get a G-SHOCK, which is probably the most durable watch you can buy.

http://www.amazon.com/Casio-GWM5610-1-G-Shock-Solar-Watch/dp/B007RWZHXO/ref=sr_1_6?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1457419331&sr=1-6&nodeID=6358540011&keywords=gshock+solar

http://www.amazon.com/Casio-G9300-1-G-Shock-Resistant-Multi-Function/dp/B0058W91N2/ref=sr_1_1?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1457419343&sr=1-1&nodeID=6358540011&keywords=gshock+mudman

(Both of those are solar power).

I would encourage you to look above your price range a bit, especially if you want to go for a Citizen, because it allows you to get something like this that will last you forever, but you can still get something great for under $200.

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-AT4117-56H-Nighthawk-Stainless-Eco-Drive/dp/B00GTNPXUE/ref=sr_1_3?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1457419426&sr=1-3&nodeID=6358540011&keywords=citizen+nighthawk

The watches I listed here are much more versatile than most of the ones you linked to, (except for the G-SHOCK, don't wear that with a suit!) I will wear my Seiko Orange Monster with anything from a swim suit at the beach or with a black suit at a formal event. Buying from any of these three brands and not from a fashion/clothing brand that also makes watches will guarantee that your watch will last for a very long time. Feel free to PM me or ask for help at /r/watches if you have any more questions or want any recommendations.

I want some new watches but I need to sell a few to be able to justify it to myself. I'll pay the shipping cost to COSU and the paypal fees with reasonable offers.

First up is the ever popular Orient Blue Ray EM6500CD. 41mm case automatic with a 22mm lug width, perfect for all those Natos you all love so much. Comes on the original strap with the original box, papers, and hanger tag. There is a mark on the crystal between the 10 and the 11. Looking for $125.
http://www.amazon.com/Orient-EM6500CD-Stainless-Steel-Rubber/dp/B00A6G7F3S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462553164&sr=8-1&keywords=orient+blue+ray

Next up is the beautiful Bulova Precisionist 93B130. 40mm case size and 22mm lug width. The sweeping second hand and deployment clasp make this a great dress watch. It's in great condition and comes with the box and papers. Looking for $125.
http://www.amazon.com/Bulova-96B130-Precisionist-Longwood-Stainless-Steel/dp/B003P1QEFG

Third up for sale is the Bulova Marine Star 98B112. Water resistant to 100M, 41.8mm case & 22mm lugs. 24 hour sub dial at the 9 and 6 position, date at the 12 position. comes with box & papers, looking for $175.
http://www.amazon.com/Bulova-98B112-Marine-Stainless-Bracelet/dp/B001RNIVAA

Orient Ray Raven SOLD.

I also have a few 22mm nato straps. $8 each. Edit: Black & grey NATO sold.

Album with other bands

I absolutely love my Blue Mako. It was a gift from my girlfriend in December and I picked the version with the rubber strap because I knew I would change it any way. Until about a week ago I wore it with the blue NATO, but I recently purchased the leather NATO and fell in love again.

I haven't officially tested the time, but unofficially it has been great. "The School of Horology" reviewed the movement and it performed very well. (Incredibly well for a $100.00 US watch.) Video

The watch was purchased on Amazon.com and is available now for just under $100.00 US. Amazon Link

I honestly don't have any cons for this watch. It quickly became my daily watch due to its durability and versatile style, due to the strap changes. I've banged this thing into all sorts of stuff and it's held up like a champ. The value is incredible and for $20.00 strap you can give it a total face lift.

**Edit grammers

My wife and I last month or so just started watching Parks and Rec on Netflix. Being a watch enthusiast I was always curious which watch Ron Swanson wore on the show so I looked it up as I think it is sharp looking. Turns out, as many already know, it is a discontinued Citizen 2100 Calibre

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I was not in a hurry to get it but thought if I ever came across one I'd perhaps pick one up. Friday one popped up on Facebook Marketplace, which I have never used and not sure why I even looked, and I decided to grab it for what I thought was a good price after seeing what they go for on e-bay (it is getting harder to find this version). When I told my wife I was running to meet the guy after work she rolled her eyes and asked why I needed yet another watch. I told her it was a good deal and that I was going to flip it (that excuse is getting thin though as I have yet do so with a watch). However after seeing it she is now suggesting I keep it because she really likes the dial. Even though it looks white it actually has a horizontal striped pattern, almost sunburst like, that only shows up in certain light.

The watch definitely showed signs of steady wear after 2 years, but cleaned up rather nice. The mineral crystal needs some attention as there are a fair number of micro scratches that should buff right out. I'm still on the fence about keeping it, but for now will give it a week or two and see if I still feel its worth hanging on to. Eco drive, flyback chrono and an alarm feature make it a pretty solid piece for well under $200.

Is this going to be a dressy watch for formal/special occasions? Or are you looking for a daily wear watch?

If the former latter, then perhaps a hard-wearing quartz is a good idea. If you want something special, but that you'll have to take care of, then your budget could easily allow you a dressier mechanical watch (auto or hand wound).


In fact, fuck it, here's a list of shit I dug up. I love internet-window-shopping:

Young-looking Seiko automatic diver

Hamilton Khaki

Another (larger) Hamilton Khaki

Khaki Pilot (very diver/aviator-esque look)

A Tissot auto chrono

A fairly dressy Hamilton

A nice and clean sporty Tissot

A rather large but eye-catching Hamilton


Yes, I know I went kinda overboard on the Hamiltons, but I was working off the impression your watch example and fondness for divers gave me.

EDIT: got my former/latter mixed up. I blame Mr. Walker's magnificent amber restorative.

Depending on when your birthday is (or if you're willing to wait a bit past it) the Certina DS-2 is probably the best watch you can get in that price range (once it's released). It's TC quartz, accuracy rated to within 10 seconds per year. The Chronograph DS-2 has been very well received on WUS.

The Bulova Precisionist Langford is another option, it's also rated to within 10 seconds per year, but is non TC, and sometimes runs a little out of spec (with 20 seconds). The hand beats 16 times per second, so it has the appearance of moving smoothly.

Both of these will deliver on quality timekeeping. If you get anything else in that price range except a Casio RC (which doesn't have the look you want at that price range), it won't keep time nearly as well. This will either be a regular quartz watch which keeps time to within 15 seconds per month (~1/10th as accurate), or a mechanical watch, which at that price point will keep time to within 20-40 seconds per day (~1/1400th as accurate).

When you're talking about mechanical watches, quality takes on a bit of a different meaning, because the accurate timekeeping ship has sailed since we got quartz watches. There quality would be best measured by how long it can go without servicing (both the Certina and Bulova will at a minimum need their batteries replaced every few years), and in that regard a Seiko with a 6R15 movement, such as the SARG005 (unfortunately, Seiko doesn't name their watches well at the mid range) would be one of the best options at that price point. The 6R15 is a newer movement based on the 7S26 (which has a very good track record for keeping on ticking after a long time without maintenance). You will have to set the time every few days though to keep it accurate to the minute.

If you're looking to invest in gear for riding outdoors you need the following:

• Wool Socks (merino/spandex mix is best) - TheAthletic makes great ones, but LLBean has cheaper ones that work fine
  
• Shoe Covers - Spatz Outerwear appears to make some quality one, but I've used Pearl Izumi ones in the past with decent results
  
• Gloves - Lobster gloves are probably best
  
• Merino Base Layer (Long Sleeve) - Rapha makes a great one
  
• Good Wind/Water-proof jacket - Look at Showers Pass and GoreTex stuff

They're an OK brand, but $250 is way too much for a simple quartz like this. Just 200m diver is nothing special, OK it has a sapphire crystal, but so do most watches like this.

If you want a quartz diver then you can probably do far better. Heck, you can get something like this that is $150, and it's a great respected make too.

I don't really like to spend over 100 for a standard quartz watch. This Wenger isn't a chronograph, isn't a special ATM depth... I can't really see why it's so pricey. It's about $150 overpriced as far as I can see.

Bulova is a pretty well loved American brand (like Hamilton) known for innovation. They are now owned by Citizen so I would put their movements on par with something by Orient (who is owned by Seiko). Correct me if I'm wrong here /r/watches. Note that that particular piece, though nice, is even larger than the Hamilton that you posted. You can't really go wrong at that price point though!

I reckon the Hamilton has the highest quality movement out of the ones we've discussed in this thread, but at the end of the day it's worth going for the one that you like the looks of the most, because you're the one that is going to be looking at it 90% of the time!

Edit Just as an afterthought, have you considered something from the Hamilton Khaki family of watches? I pined after a Khaki field for the longest time but then found the 2013 Maratac Mid Pilot and was swayed by that.

Edit2 It's kinda heresy on this sub but at your price range, have you considered getting something with a quartz movement? That opens up the world to a lot of design choices! My daily wear is a Tissot V8 which is quartz powered, and it is super accurate and low-maintenance.

I have a Seiko SARB005 that I wear a lot and I've really been impressed with it. Looks great and keeps excellent time. It's more in the $300 range, but all the other ones I can think of that fit your aesthetic (Junkers Bauhaus, Junghans Max Bill, etc) are significantly more than that. Good luck!

Thank you - I have two eco-drives. The most recent a Navihawk A/T and it is awesome - but both of these have crystals which are wrecked. My older Calibre 2100 is almost opaque! I definitely need the strength of sapphire.

That thing is very attractive though!

I'd recommend the Tissot PRC 200 or V8 for a chrono in that price range

V8 On Leather

PRC 200 on Leather

PRC 200 on Steel

Other brands I'm that I'm sure will get mentioned: Orient (Japan), Seiko (Seiko), Hamilton (Swiss), Christopher Ward (Swiss). For under $300, you're looking at a quartz movement, which is fine.

If you just want a cheap, good quality sport chrono, I'd probably get a Seiko while you save for something nicer (if you want to)

I wanted to get into watch collecting but I realized its an expensive hobby and I'm a young guy in college. I didn't know where to start, but started reading about Japanese watches and then the Orient Blue Mako really caught my eye. I love the divers watch style. I bought a Nato strap because everyone loves them here and I plan on finding a metal bracelet to pair this with when I can afford one. I know this isn't really a glamorous piece, but I thought I could make my post interesting with a timelapse gif! If anyone has any recommendations on a metal bracelet for this by the way, let me know!

I bought the watch here with a rubber strap.

Here's the higher quality source video!, not sure if video posts are allowed here so I converted it to a gfycat for this post.

If you want a mechanical watch, I would recommend the Orient Union, Millenium, or Vintage (in order of price). The Millenium (that's how they spell it) has a metal band but you could easily afford a leather one as well within your budget once you factor in the 50% off coupon code floating around.

If you'd prefer one closer to that Kenneth Cole you'll have to go quartz, but the Tissot PRC200 would be your best selection. Here is the amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000B7MBHM/ref=aw_d_iv_watches?is=l&qid=1323692800&sr=8-3

Sorry I didn't provide more links, on my way to work so I'm on my phone on the train.

As of 8 hours ago this is my watch. Had to start spending Christmas money at some point, I guess, though for some reason this $12 watch feels like an odd way to start.

Completely unrelated: Computer power users, do you have any suggestions for peripherals for someone who does everything from his laptop and moves around a lot? My main computer tasks are programming, redditing, and very light image editing (paint.net, not PS or anything like that). I've been thinking of getting an external monitor for a while, but I can't tell if it'd be worth it or if there's anything else that might be more useful.

Also since I likely won't be back in this thread until then, early happy new year everyone!

Skip the armanis. they are cheap "designer" watches. basicly they make the case and drop a citizen movement inside (if you´re lucky. you could find a cheap generic chinese movement inside)

the Victorinox is nice becuase it carries a ETA movement.

you can also have a citizen eco drive one which are pretty reliable and solar powered. Citizen movements are a dime a dozen and half the non swiss made industry uses them, but if you buy citizen directly insted of a 3rd party that using citizen movements, you usualy get a better movement at a lower price.

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-BL5250-02L-Eco-Drive-Perpetual-Chronograph/dp/B000EQS0WK/ref=sr_1_2?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1320801509&sr=1-2

Or if you want swiss you can have a nice tissot V8 for cheap.
http://www.amazon.com/Tissot-T0394171105700-Black-Chronograph-Watch/dp/B002IVGKJY/ref=sr_1_2?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1320801621&sr=1-2

Winter liner for your helmet, proper winter gloves, and a face mask will make the ride very comfortable.

I have a Bern helmet and they offer a lot of liners compatible with their helmets: http://bernunlimited.com/shop/accessories/knits.html

For gloves I use these (I like how the fingers help hold the handlebars and brakes without reducing finger mobility by having 5 bulky fingers: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SOMBQBI/ref=pd_sim_468_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SA68F2J0KCMWT4VGE10D

Face mask, really anything cheap works. Be sure you air it out before using the first time cause they smell like cheap chemicals: https://www.amazon.com/World-Pride-Face-Snowboard-Motorcycle/dp/B006K930UC/ref=sr_1_16?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1478018406&sr=1-16

I can't decide which watch to get, would you guys mind helping me out?

So far I'm looking at Casio F91W, [Casio W800H-1AV] (https://www.amazon.com/Casio-W800H-1AV-Classic-Sport-Watch/dp/B001AWZDA4/ref=zg_bs_6358540011_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=W0MB4NW36A7WRN4S8P1Q), Casio F108WH, Casio W800HG-9AV, and this one (Amazon just called it "Casio Men's Digital Watch"). Any help and/or other watch suggestions around the same price point with similar features would be greatly appreciated

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Seconding this.

I have a good amount of quality socks from when I was testing out different brands. CHUP, Anonymous Ism, People Socks, Wigwam, Smartwool, Kapital, Kirkland, Carhartt, Orvis and Darn Tough.

Darn Tough is easily my favorite, it really isn't even close. I don't think I will buy any other socks unless someone makes a really compelling argument to try out a different brand.

Just buy Darn Tough for everything. I have a thicker boot pair that is my favorite, a thinner type of the same length that is great for my closer fitting boots or sneakers and I have a pair that is about ankle height.

Actually sorry this is the internet.

Thicker Socks My Favorite

Ankle

Thinner

These have been on my wishlist for a while (mostly as a different color), but they're over $15.

I would love these though!

Thanks for the ancient contest!

Up front: I'm not a watch expert like many here... by here are my thoughts anyway.

I like it. Ive never owned a Bulova as well but I've thought about it.
This one does look a big thick though (personally I have a small wrist so I take that into consideration).
Considering what you are looking for I would also consider this Tissot: http://www.amazon.com/Tissot-T0394171105700-Black-Chronograph-Watch/dp/B002IVGKJY/ref=sr_1_12?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1348266013&sr=1-12&keywords=tissot
Its about twice as expensive, but its a great watch. I bought one 3 years ago and I've had a good run with it.

If you think you can be comfortable on a CCF pad like the z-lite then go for it. It'll be lighter, cheaper, and much more durable than an inflatable. I personally don't enjoy them as much, so I opted for the neoair. It's plenty durable if you pay attention to sharp things (rocks generally won't puncture it), but it does cost more. If you can test any of them out I highly recommend that because if a CCF pad works for you then you're golden; cheap, light, durable. For me I was willing to spend more to get a good night sleep on the trail, and I'm fine with watching where I drop it to protect it more.

My go to recommendation for rain wear is a Frogg Togg jacket. Amazon UK (I'm assuming you are in UK, sorry if not) carries them for cheap, and they do a solid job of keeping you dry. Some folks complain about durability, and they aren't designed for hard abuse like bushwhacking, but my pair is 2 years old and still going strong.

You can get a very clean Christopher Ward watch with a Swiss movement for under $500. I just purchased this Christopher Ward "flieger" (German flight watch) style piece, and I love it.

I'm finding that at the $400-$500 range you have a huge variety of decent quality timepieces to choose from. I can afford more expensive watches, but I'm still uncomfortable with the idea of anything more than $1K on my wrist.

By the way, by no means do you even have to spend that much for a great watch. The Orient Blue Mako and the Seiko Monster are popular and well regarded, and they're both inexpensive.

Answer to Q3: Dress for the last few miles! You will warm up quite a bit, especially if you have any hills. Nice thing about biking is that if you're a little bit cold, pedal harder. If you're too warm, shed a layer.

Create a spreadsheet (or note) that details the weather conditions, what you wore, and how you felt. Get a feel for what you should wear in certain conditions. Then you don't have to think about what to wear in the morning. I.e. it was 36 F this morning, and previous rides showed me that I would be comfortable in thermals, balaclava, and lobster gloves.

Orient ray is on sale below $100 on Amazon...can't go wrong with a diver..take off the rubber strap and slap on a nato or leather strap for $10 and you're golden.

http://www.amazon.com/Orient-EM6500CD-Automatic-Black-Rubber/dp/B00A6G7F3S/ref=sr_1_5?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1411743376&sr=1-5&keywords=Orient+ray

Same watch with a Nato

http://i.imgur.com/MFlETF6.jpg

If you have a bit of a larger wrist and can go about $150 I would suggest AVI-8...make great pilot chrono's out of the box. I like the Hawker but like I said measure wrist..Im at 7 inches so anything 39-44mm im good with..this watch is 42mm


http://www.amazon.com/AVI-8-AV-4011-04-Hurricane-Stainless-Leather/dp/B00FR70N44/ref=sr_1_1?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1411743549&sr=1-1&keywords=AVI-8

"Analog" G-Shocks are nice but I think the nice ones (i.e. A1100/A1000) are out of your price range. For a mechanical option I recommend the Seiko Monster, like the SRP309 or the SRP311.

Watch or jewelry shops in your area might have some. For budget-friendly options, try Hadley Roma on Amazon, usually $15-30. You just need a small screwdriver and a steady hand to push back the spring bar from the lug on the watch case. You'll typically need a width of 22mm, maybe 20 or 24; just measure the distance between the lugs or check the specs.

For a high quality watch for your dollar, especially your first (or first serious) watch, try a Citizen Eco-drive, Seiko, or Orient. Many of these don't require a battery change every couple years: the Eco-drives charge its battery from any light source, though this battery may have to be replaced after a decade. An Automatic winding watch, like the Seiko 5 line or the Orient Mako or Ray, use the movement of a counterweight (rotor) while you wear it to store energy in a spring. This energy will run out after about 1.5 days, so either wear it or shake it around every day.

A Timex Expedition served me well for a while, but I sure like my Citizens, Orient Ray, and Seiko 5 Military.

Has he hinted at any particular style? I think the Weekender would be an excellent choice. Off the top of my head, here are some additional classic and well respected budget watches.

Timex Expedition Scout

Casio F91W or F108WH

Casio MDV106

G-Shock DW5600

Timex T49904

If you want a Chronograph, then I agree 100% - this is a great choice. It's also available in a Black Bezel

There is also an older version of their non-solar Quartz diver with a Chronograph called the SNAE25 (I don't know that I would buy this one on Amazon as it doesn't come with warranty).

If you can give up the Chronograph, then you have the Monster and Classic Divers to look at.

Good luck!

I think it's a great idea to make your first pack with cheap ($$) stuff, and then spend money on later packs, once you've gained some knowledge, techniques, and preferences on what you like in a pack.

So, to address the other comments, presumably - I say, because I haven't tried it - you could use some fray-stop on your seams to help them hold. Maybe silicon seam sealer?

For the water, you could try and apply water resistance with a Wash in product, a spray, or some people do wash and spray after. If washing, I'd do it before constructing, spray could happen after, but I'm hypothesizing, as I haven't used either.

Probably should still use a trash compactor liner but it would help keeping the water from weighing your pack down.

Thanks again!

I don't get why this post gets downvoted, wish I had more opinions! :)

If you don't mind, what do you think of these?

• Tights
  
• Top
  
• Hood
  
• Gloves

Overall, Rolex Milgauss with the green crystal. Between the high polish case, the near glowing edge of the crystal, and the contrast colored dial (and that second hand!) nothing beats it for me.

Under $1200, I have a few. The SARG005 that I daily is pretty hard to beat in my book, even at under $400.
In the same price category, I've been looking for a dive watch, and a few keep bouncing around in my head. I think the Christopher Ward C60 with a red bezel tops my list here overall under $1200. I think my budget is going to have me go with my runner up to that, a Tissot Seastar 1000 Powermatic 80.

Lastly, under $200, I think the Orient Ray II is as good looking as you can get for the money.

Same here. I would love a really nice watch someday though. I'm fine with mid tier watches though. Right now I'm waffling between a Seiko Turtle or a Maranez.

I own one of these bad boys, the Seiko SNE107 Sunburst Solar Diver. Not their most popular diver, but it's a great watch. The metal bracelet could be put together better, but I normally wear mine with a nylon or leather NATO.

I try to run outside even when it's super cold (-20F). Mittens are better than gloves because your fingers keep each other warm. Running masks need vent holes for more airflow, ones like this don't allow for enough airflow and make me feel like I'm suffocating. Running tights are great, but you may need ones with some wind protection for your front region.

Take a look at this Orient Black Ray

Orient is owned by Seiko. They are pretty good watches, and this looks more like the Omega than the similarly priced Seikos.

I'm pretty sure it was this one! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000PGOOIS?psc=1 :)

it's a departure from the leather band style but the Seiko Monster line is known to be an incredibly good value in the world of watches. I'm wearing my orange one right now.

http://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SRP309-Classic-Automatic-Watch/dp/B00AJK9CL4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453354106&sr=8-1&keywords=seiko+monster

I saw two Orients that fit your description. The Championship and Disk. They're relatively inexpensive, so you can save your folks some cash (or spend the remainder on another watch).

I also searched Amazon for a black metal band + automatic movement. Here's a few results: Seiko Men's SKZ329, Orient EM65007B Men's Ray Raven, Seiko Men's SNZJ67, Android AD563BKK Armor 50.

I'd recommend something like this Hamilton Jazzmaster or the Tissot PRC200. Careful with the latter, as they are often faked.

Given that, I would also tell your friend that his lawyer buddies will probably not be impressed with these watches, as their budgets will be considerably higher.

My work watch. I got it as a gift back in 2000, I'm surprised they still sell it.

Also I'll wear this every now and again, but the weight gets to me after awhile.

Also, when I was in 7th grade my dad bought me this watch(first one on left) as a gift. Shows the early planting of geeky seeds because why would a 7th grader need this watch? I didn't, but I thought it was the coolest watch ever created, evar.

These are small, cheap(ish) products with a lifetime guarantee and a good track record:

Merkur Safety Razor, $20

Victorinox Swiss Army Knife, $13.39

Leatherman Multi Tools, $20-Infinity

Darn Tough Socks, ~$20

Saddleback Leather Wallets, $40-infinity

Buck 110 Hunter, $30

Well, my usual outfit involves a black t-shirt, black cargo pants, black socks, black leather boots, and a black cap (the kind with a round panel for the top instead of big wedges). The cap also has one of these attached to it.

Also my watch (a cheap $11 Casio with a black nylon replacement band added after the original (plastic? rubber?) band broke) and a couple chainmail bracelets (the rubber rings are black and the annodized aluminum rings cycle through a repeating pattern of blue/blue/blue/green

If I get cold I can also throw on a black hoodie. :-P

I bought an SRP775, and i absolutely love it.
I was hell bent on getting a SKX007 but i started looking at pictures of the SRP775 and stalked Amazon for sales, picked one up for $260.00, the watch is fantastic

Frogg Toggs - cheap, reliable, but kind of fragile. I like beauty in my fenders so I run Velo's

Agreed. Certainly not BIFL, but not intended to be. They (pants + jacket) cost around $20 and pack up small so you won't get caught without. I often only bother with the jacket, but the pants are nice to have.

http://smile.amazon.com/Frogg-Toggs-Ultra-lite2-Rain-stuff/dp/B007SF1DAQ

I'm unfamiliar with that brand, but the description says the hood is helmet compatible and I would be concerned about dealing with a lot of hood material even though it can cinched down. Here is the Frogg Toggs that I use:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Frogg-Togg-UL12104-09MD-Ultra-Medium/dp/B007X5XDOK/ref=sr_1_1?s=clothing&ie=UTF8&qid=1537840601&sr=1-1&keywords=frogg+toggs+ultralite

These are just my preferences, anything waterproof that you like that is also acceptably light will do.

I wear a Casio F108WH, and it's one of my favorite watches. Light, comfortable, and it has some nice utility stuff (illumination, timer, alarm etc).

I don't really like GShocks or Suuntos, they're way too bulky/bloated. If I want a GPS or a run tracker, I'll just use my phone.

http://www.amazon.com/Casio-F108WH-Illuminator-Collection-Digital/dp/B0053HBJBE

Darn Tough socks. Best socks I’ve ever owned. Super expensive but it’s worth every penny. In my opinion, they blow fox river and everyone else out of the water.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000XFZY1M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_2zIhAbJ35NC8H

Not sure how one makes it this far in life and not know the secrets of walking in the rain, but the popular method of not getting wet in a rainstorm is a combination of umbrella, rainsuit, and rainboots.

I don't think this is unique to Chicago but who knows.

Maybe ask /r/weather or /r/meteorology for advanced rain-aversion techniques.

Hey, I have one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Orient-CEM65005D-Automatic-Watch-Rubber/dp/B001EWEQ4Y/
I have a few nato bands you could have as well.
Any interest? Flexible on price.

No, I can't. Timex is well known for dominating the extreme low end of the market in terms of quality/price. All I'm saying is that I think it looks bad and for a casual watch I'd suggest something else, even a different Timex. You might have to be willing to spend 100 dollars on a watch, which for reference, is a very low amount for a watch. You can have your cheap digital watch for sports and a nicer one for day wearing. Personally, I love the look of plain chronographs, so for a casual watch I'd recommend something like:

http://www.amazon.com/Tissot-T17151632-T-Sport-PRC200-Watch/dp/B000B7MBHM/ref=sr_1_4?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1345131884&sr=1-4&keywords=tissot+chronograph

or

http://www.amazon.com/Timex-T2N701DH-Intelligent-Quartz-Series/dp/B0053EXKVE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pdT11_S?ie=UTF8&coliid=IZ3S0WFW7TA3Q&colid=1GOTTUYR2DTX4

The least you could do is upgrade to a Seiko 5, which will cost you 50 dollars more and look much better. Or even a Timex Expedition! Just 10 dollars more and it looks so much better than a Weekender.

My go to are the Darn Tough Men's Solid Basic Crew Light (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0100LOO6O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). I wear these with 8 last boots. For 23 Last boots, I can get by with thicker socks which are a little too snug for me in the 8 last. Their hiking line works for those boots but I find they are unbearably warm during warmer weather. Winter socks only: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XFZY1M/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XG1BC2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you hunt you can get an SRP775 or SRP777 for $350 or so

https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SRP775-Automatic-Diver-Stainless/dp/B01AMI4GWC?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

Basically an upgraded version of the SKX (much better bracelet, hacking and hand-winding movement). One of my favorites in my collection.

To be honest, I think it looks fine on your wrist. As far as sub $100 automatics, Amazon.com search will help:) (40mm+, <$100, men's, automatic self-wind).

Been looking at watches myself the last week, read somewhere that Invicta and Fossil is not so good quality - I do however see a lot of people with Orient watches (example).

I really don't think you can do much better than Darn Tough Socks, they aren't cheap, but they are comfy, warm, will last for years, and they even come with a lifetime guarantee.

Great News: Orient.

This Orient Ray is 41.5mm http://www.amazon.com/Orient-Black-Automatic-Watch-CEM65008B/dp/B007BF61GO/ref=sr_1_2?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1394850903&sr=1-2&keywords=mako

This Orient Mako (not on a bracelet) is 41mm and a mere $104 and has an automatic movement http://www.amazon.com/Orient-CEM65004B-Black-Automatic-Rubber/dp/B001EWEQ4E/ref=sr_1_1?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1394850815&sr=1-1&keywords=orient+mako

Really cold (like <10°F). I like that it wraps down over my ears. And I can stick some speakers in them. Also gives me a nice permanent perch for one of my lights.

I usually wear thin hood/balaclava under it. When its really cold, I go with a full face balaclava and some ski/board goggles.

Helmet, balaclava & goggles.

I have like 15 pairs of these. They're very expensive, but you can usually get a pro deal and it brings them down to about 15/pr.

I've used smart wool, and I very much prefer these. Plus they're made in America and carry a lifetime warranty, so if you ever wear them out you can send them in for a new pair.

I have these. It doesn't rain a lot in Southern California. I've used these a few times and they work pretty well.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SF1DAQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Seiko Orange Monster ... The best $200 you will ever spend.

Tissot PRC200

I own a PRC200 with a blue dial, and love it.

I love the Citizen Ecodrive Calibre 2100.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000EQTXXA/ref=redir_mdp_mobile

I have that watch with a white face/dark brown bracelet. It definitely has a sizable case. Not for little wrists. I quite like it.

I just picked up the SARG005 Automatic from Seiko. It's rugged, yet presentable. Tanner Goods makes an awesome Natural Shell Cordovan Nato Watch Strap, and it looks incredible with the watch.

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My current daily watch is an omega dynamic that I'm very happy with.

It's expensive, but seiko makes some similar watches in your price range.

Or, another low budget favourite of mine is the orient ray. It's a decent quality, nicely designed diver.

Casio Men's W800H-1AV Classic Sport Watch with Black Band https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001AWZDA4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ezFwyb7CBMXJE

Casio Men's F108WH Illuminator Collection Black Resin Strap Digital Watch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0053HBJBE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_dAFwybZFPEHXKe

Casio Men's AQS800W-1B2VCF "Slim" Solar Multi-Function Ana-Digi Sport Watch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005MDPAPU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_uEFwyb4TFQN00

Casio Men's W735H-1AVCF Super Illuminator Watch With Black Resin Band https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BS8U88W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_JCFwybZ8TXJYQ

Casio Men's WV200A-1AV Waveceptor Watch with Black Band https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00186YU38/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_wFFwybJE5MKVD

Unfortunately, the bracelet is where a lot of the low end watches skimp at. There are some good options though.

If you want an automatic, I would go with an Orient Mako (although the endlinks and pins are a little cheap) or a Seiko Monster.

If you want quartz, I would look at the Casio Edifice line or maybe a Bulova Precisionist. Tissot Classic Dream if you want something a little fancier.

This is just a starting point, read the sidebar and search around until you find something that suits you. Also, if possible try on as many watches in person to really get a feel for what you like.

Sure. They're a lot more expensive than they were back then, but every one is available somewhere as far as I know. This one isn't a good example - it was a LNIB sold for an OK BIN price on eBay - but they're available.

SKZ325

SKZ327

SKZ329

SKZ323

SKZ330

Every one is available.

Another cheap GShock alternative at ~$15 is the Casio F108WH. It's Water Resistant (WR), but many people take them swimming, and a nice monotone alternative to the F-91W.

https://www.amazon.com/Casio-F108WH-Illuminator-Collection-Digital/dp/B0053HBJBE/

I wear this under a Smith Variance and it is perfect. Can put it up over your head when it is cold or just as a normal gaiter when it's not as cold. Under Armour Men's ColdGear Infrared Tactical Hood https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DQAG0KU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Tc5QybT6Q44V5

Going with this subreddit's hivemind (which in this case is quite correct) I would suggest Seiko. Maybe something like a Seiko 5 or a Black Monster?

Also my personal dream watch (I dream small), unfortunately unavailable here in the UK, Maratac Pilot.

it could be unisex, but it's definitely not a big man's dive watch

Though to give recommendations without knowing what kind of watch he'd be into. Even tougher since it has to compete with a Rolex.

You are in kind of a tough spot, because he won't be wearing the watch during the week, so an automatic is a bad choice. On the other hand, quartz watches are less interesting (my opinion) so he might as well be wearing the G-shock.

If you think he wouldn't mind the PITA of restarting/setting the watch every Friday, I would consider a Seiko Monster. In my opinion, it is the most iconic watch under $250. Also available in Orange.

Orient Ray, Amazon purchase link for spec review

Diameter; 42.5 mm

Band width; 22mm

Thickness; 13mm

Price; $75 shipped conus, paypal ff preferred.

Comes with; Original box from when I purchased, 22mm orient rubber strap, 22mm nato strap (blue, white, orange)

Notes; few small scratches on the crystal, bezel, and bracelet - this was a beater watch. I bought the watch with the rubber nato, but bought a used steel bracelet to replace the rubber strap. Selling because I am downsizing my collection and this one hasn’t seen much wear

Time stamp

album

wrist shot ~ 7.25”. You can see the two scratches; above the 5 marking and across the 1 marking.

mineral glass - realized that the pictures show a bunch of fingerprint smudges on the mineral glass. This is the current condition of the glass cleaned up.

I have sold a few watches on r/watchexchange along with trades, purchases, and selling on r/goodyearwelt and r/mechmarket.

Bought this watch from amazon a couple weeks ago. Tried it on with a new strap and it has been sitting on my watch box since. Includes everything pictured.

$100 STYD Paypal

Amazon listing:

http://www.amazon.com/Orient-CEM65005D-Automatic-Rubber-Strap/dp/B001EWEQ4Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1450652463&sr=8-2&keywords=orient+blue+mako

How about a Tissot T-Touch?

http://us.tissotshop.com/watches/t-touch.html?limit=all&gclid=CPz298LazckCFVCQHwod-woLlw&gclsrc=aw.ds

Or maybe a Suunto?

http://www.suunto.com/en-US/Watch-Collection/Suunto-Kailash-Collection/

If you don't need the alarm, stopwatch, etc. I'd go with a Seiko Orange Monster. Nice automatic that can take a beating.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AJK9CL4/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687542&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000EPLR2G&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0F319M62YNN46DV427NT


I swapped out the bracelet for a black rubber strap with orange stitching.

FroggToggs. Pants weigh about 5oz. Still ugly, but they come in different colors and they're cheap. Just a note, the fit is one size bigger than normal. I'm 5'10" and the small fits me. Medium was too long.

Take a paper towel, hold it inside the jacket while you run water from a tap on the outside. If the towel stays dry, then your jacket is fine; its just wetting-out.

I've been told me to wash rain jackets about once a season, and to use special detergent. The only one I've used is nikwax, but its worked quite well.

To stop the jacket from wetting-out, use a DWR treatment, included in that link above.

I've used this Nikwax on clothes before and it worked really well. This one is used in the washing machine but I think they sell a spray version too for bigger items.

If you want to go with an auto, I suggest the Orient Ray

http://www.amazon.com/Orient-Black-Automatic-Watch-CEM65008B/dp/B007BF61GO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394682361&sr=8-1&keywords=orient+ray

If you want an affordable quartz, Casio MDV-106

http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f2/735405d1339562384-single-do-all-grab-go-40mm-quartz-dressy-diver-under-$300-casio-mens-mdv106d-1a1v-silver-stainless-steel-quartz-watch.jpg

I'm not a fan of quartzs and/or chronos, so I'd say that if these are your only 2 options, then go for the Orient - although I think the double crowns look a bit odd.

Although this one's not a 'nice' watch, it's an automatic, it can take a beating, looks cool, has incredible lume, screw-down crown, uni-directional bezel, and is a must-have for any new watch collector on a tight budget:

Seiko Black Monster

Seiko Orange Monster

Lastly, don't overlook Raymond Weil for a nice watch in the $500 price range - Amazon is full of them.

my $.02

the oatmeal, olive, and blue/oatmeal will work fine with those if you want Darn Toughs.

If you want a dive watch:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004JONRWG/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1450642061&sr=8-3&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=seiko+solar+dive&dpPl=1&dpID=51ju67WzpvL&ref=plSrch

SARG007

SARG005

SARG011

SARG001

SARG003

SNX123 if you can find one.

That'd work but he'll probably get called out by his DS for something so "military" (that's a classic prank to pull though).

This was mine and I never had an issue.

Casio Men's F108WH Illuminator Collection Black Resin Strap Digital Watch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0053HBJBE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jGbYAbXJCRDTG

Had this one for years. Totally waterproof and durable. Its perff

Orient Black Ray.

Seiko SNE107 Solar Diver. I got it about two years ago.
Amazon link

You can get them on amazon, that's where mine came from. And they've gone down in price lately!

Casio Men's G-shock DW5600E-1V

Casio Men's F108WH

Casio W-800H-1AVCF

cheap on Amazon

I got my set for like $16. I returned my OR Helium 2 after getting completely soaked in it on a 10 mile hike in the rain. It sucks to get soaking wet while wearing a rain jacket that costs that much. The Frogg Toggs UL jacket has kept me BONE DRY

https://www.amazon.com/Frogg-Toggs-Ultra-Small-UL12104-12SM/dp/B007SF1DAQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1501997584&sr=8-6&keywords=frogg%2Btoggs&th=1
This one, I bought 2 suits UL2 FToggs

Why not Amazon?

You should check out its older brother, [the Black Ray] (http://www.amazon.com/Orient-Black-Automatic-Watch-CEM65008B/dp/B007BF61GO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335371966&sr=8-1)

[Deez one!?](Under Armour Men's ColdGear® Infrared Tactical Hood One Size Fits All Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DQAG0KU/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_UuKxwb9VA99ZR
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DQAG0KU/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_UuKxwb9VA99ZR)

Seiko SKA371 (also known as the BFK)

SNE107

SSC017

These all come in colour variants.

turtle

boom squared

There's always the SARG005

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G9XRY92/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1464183789&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=seiko+sarg005&dpPl=1&dpID=51hvW9sNsAL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01AMI4GWC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480562614&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=srp775&dpPl=1&dpID=51A7D6C1tVL&ref=plSrch

$288. Doesn't say it's on sale but it does say in stock

I would just grab a Frog Togg in the mean time. Cheap, light and will do the trick in the interim.

the 7S26 movement is known for being bomb proof. Now every so often with automatic movements it will need to be cleaned but that is after many years of usage. Below is what I have and it is a very hearty watch indeed.

https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SRP309-Classic-Automatic-Watch/dp/B00AJK9CL4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486656559&sr=8-1&keywords=orange+monster

He's worn it every season. It's a citizen.

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Drive-Calibre-Stainless-AV0031-59A/dp/B000EQTXXA/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Here is one for sale on ebay.

Buy one or two pair and make sure you like them. Use them in everyday life, including 2-3 days worn, hanging to air out overnight if possible.

Darn Tough is what I wear almost exclusively now, regardless if I’m traveling or at home. I wear the low cut ones in warm months and taller ones during cold weather.

Darn Tough Men's Merino Wool... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B5J8E94?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Darn Tough Merino Wool Boot Sock... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000XFZXYK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I am sorry for your loss. But methinks work watches should stick around this price range, less you expect an annual watch budget.

That Certina is powered by an ETA 2824-2. Now, this is definitely the wrong forum to go against anything Seiko-related, so I'll simply say that the Seiko movement most comparable to the 2824-2 in terms of quality and reliability is the 6R15, which is found in some very popular models.

Gore actually has series of different products within their line up (currently: ProShell, Performance Shell, Paclite, Active, and XCR), each with slightly different properties. Nowadays, XCR is only used in footwear. So depending on the age of your raingear, it could be a whole different type of fabric in your raingear. Check the label, it'll tell you what kind is loaded in.

But in general, Gore clothing will fail in a different manner than footwear (which is basically the membrane getting unseated from the footbed) - the most frequent offender is a lack of maintenance / user error, followed by seam failure which is a manufacturing issue.

The trick to Gore style membranes is keeping them clean. But you can't clean them with over the counter detergents - detergents have water softeners and other chemicals that allow water to penetrate deeper into fabrics. These are really difficult to rinse out, and remain within fabrics for a long time. Detergents also seriously weaken the durable water repellent (DWR) coating that's applied to the face fabric - that's the stuff that makes raingear bead up and fall off.

I can go deeper into raingear and the science behind it, but I'll refrain from nerding out on you.

Anyway, the key is washing your raingear and reproofing it frequently. I usually suggest either Nikwax, which is a polymerised wax coating, or [Grangers] (http://www.amazon.com/Grangers-One-Step-Wash-Waterproofer/dp/B006ZJJ5I8/ref=pd_sim_sg_5), which uses a flourocarbon based coating.