(Part 3) Reddit mentions: The best bike chain locks

this is my thought process

• go cheap, go used. you might not like it. might find one you LOVE a few months later. might decide you like hybrids more.
  
  
• expect $100 or more in after bike purchases. GOOD lights (at least $30 for each). so many people go cheap on lights. its way cheaper to get a $50 light than a trip to the ER cause you didnt see that crack, hole, bottle or someone driving/riding didnt see you. also, helmet. and might i recommend gloves! they really help me. extra padding, super gripy even when you sweat. also, if u go used might need a new tire or two. maybe $50 ish on a tune up at the local bike shop. practically a requirement in some peoples opinions.
  
  
• if you're commuting you'll need some kind of storage system. many people love panniers (side bags). i prefer backpacks.
  
  
• u lock. get one. if you suddenly find a bunch of money get this.
  
  http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-999485-Black-Fahgettaboudit-Chain/dp/B001JPS200

I second what /u/watsonthesane said.

For helmets, just go to your local bike shop and try ones out. Find one that fits well and is comfortable. You'll also want a bike pump. At a minimum, you'll need to add air once a week, so it is good to have around. It is good to have one with a gauge so you don't over inflate the tire. To know how much air you need, look on the side of the wheel. You'll see XX-XX PSI. Just pump the tire in between those two numbers.

And lastly, security. This sort of depends on how prone your area is to bike theft. This could range between a low end [cable lock] (http://www.amazon.com/Wordlock-CL-454-BL-Non-Resettable-Combination-4-Feet/dp/B003HC83BG/ref=sr_1_3?s=cycling&ie=UTF8&qid=1409944142&sr=1-3), to a solid u lock, to the "mega chain". If the wheels are [quick release] (http://s1.hubimg.com/u/241092_f520.jpg) (looks like a level in the middle of the wheel), you might want to switch to an axle with a bolt, which requires a wrench to take off. I would recommend talking to someone at the bike shop in your area about what they think you'll need.

Anything mid-range is fine. Ultimately, unless you want to lug a 20lb chain around, any sort of U-Lock or mid-range chain lock is sufficient for temporary lock-ups.

https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Kryptolok-Standard-Bicycle-FlexFrame/dp/B005YPK8G2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496868581&sr=8-3&keywords=kryptonite+u-lock

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PUCSV7C/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i1?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B00PUCSV7C&pd_rd_r=FZPWAHQ8MTTBST4PJ2P0&pd_rd_w=ngc6h&pd_rd_wg=RU5PQ&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=C0QCXJ2M8NZ33CV8HY47&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=781f4767-b4d4-466b-8c26-2639359664eb&pf_rd_i=desktop

I've used both of the above at places like Bradford Beach, restaurants downtown, and Bay View on pretty nice bikes without ever having a problem. Make sure you lock up your front wheel as well, I see a ton of pretty average bikes sitting there without front wheels cuz somebody just used the quick-release and walked off with it.

Skip the cloakd bag, sounds like a gimmick.

My situation is similar. I recommend you get:

1. Locking skewers for each wheel (make your wheels harder to steal)
   
2. A small chain lock to lock your seat to your frame (make your saddle harder to steal);
   
3. A heavy chain lock, like the Fuhgetaboutit chain lock from Kryptonite (make your frame and bike generally harder to steal);
   
4. A rear rack for your bike (to make hauling things easier);
   
5. Ortlieb backroller panniers (same reason; also waterproof; also bulletproof; get two so you can balance loads on both sides);
   
6. Fenders (to help stay dry in lighter rain and after heavy rains).
   
   If you intend to bike commute when it's actively raining, then you'll also eventually want decent rain gear. Shop REI, or if you have the cash, get the good stuff from Showers Pass.

If you don't mind me asking what kinda lock did you have? I have this and I've never had any trouble. It weighs 20lbs but it's worth the hassle for the peace of mind.

For what it's worth, this is the same price (cheaper, even) and provides significantly better security than the Hiplok. 14mm hardened manganese steel chain can withstand 16 tons of cut force... it's heavy, sure, but it'll keep your bicycle safe.

A better one would be anything but that cable lock. Use either this or this. Definitely don't use a cable to lock up your bike.

In addition to the threat of being stolen, the weather may cause certain components like the chain to rust more, especially if you don't use the bike that often.

If you must leave your bike parked outside, you should get a high-quality bike chain to lock it up. They are heavy but more secure than a u-lock. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-999492-Black-Fahgettaboudit-Chain/dp/B001JPS200/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top

some good options to consider are these:

1: [Alarm Disc Lock] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074M61FWH/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I2YKSPYCUB2K3&colid=R1FSNPORC4DP&psc=0) even though it says 'for motorcycles' it will work on a bike,

2: and this mega [heavy duty chain] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001KQ5ZRG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

3: and this lock, which I don't have experience with, has the highest rating from a recent review of the top locks [Abus Granit Extreme 59 U-Lock, 10"/16mm] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OYHNU2/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I324LTWE3EAZZ4&colid=R1FSNPORC4DP&psc=1)

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-999515-Evolution-Series-4-Orange/dp/B001KQ5ZRG

You'll only need one set for the rest of your life and this will never happen again, trust me. That one's actually on special, so you should do it.

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If you're like me your bike frame might not fit a u lock like that. I've heard good things about this type of lock:

https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-York-Chain-Bicycle-Evolution/dp/B001KQ5ZRG

My insurance is called the Kryptonite Fahgettaboutit

It definitely insures me it won't get stolen :D

Depends on the chain lock :)

If I have to leave my bike for more than 15 or 20 minutes, I use this chain lock.

https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettaboudit-Bicycle-Chain/dp/B001JPS200

Disk lock is pretty hard to beat for the price. Downside is thieves will just lift bikes into trucks, especially if they're in the open. Only takes a couple guys to lift a bike.

I'd also recommend chaining it to something stationary, if possible, using something like this.

I bought an anti-theft motorcycle alarm, it's triggered by any vibration or movement. I lock it up with some heavy duty chain and an "impenetrable" lock. I live in Chicago and it's worked pretty well for me thus far.

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Anti-Theft alarm: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MFBV7TW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Heavy Duty Chain: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UMC8BW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Steel Padlock: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001V5IYT2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yeah I think I'm going for this. The one you linked I can only find in Amazon EUR for 100 euros. It IS cheaper and with a bigger diameter, but it's incredibly heavy (7kg jesus christ) and shorter, so I think I'll buy the 130 euros one and have much more room (70cm more) while having much less weight

If you want a more secure chain/lock, check out the Kryptonite 14mm x 39" New York Fahgettaboudit Chain and New York Disc Lock. That thing is huge and really really tough, it would take them a very long time or a ridiculous amount of force to get through it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JPS200/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1944687782&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001KQ5ZRG&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=13CET9G6KF0X9HZBYFYA

There are absolutely locks which realistically cannot be cut with any remotely portable equipment

Edit: as requested, these are the two I use:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001JPS200

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XCMWW9H

I have a 'Fagettaboutit' lock and this lock and chain but I rarely, if ever leave my bike out on the street.

My observation from a Uni where pushbikes regularly got stolen, is that even really phat cable locks get cut with bolt cutters. I'd have more faith in this style, tho to be fair, I've not got a clue what I'm talking about....

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009D30X7U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If the link goes away: Kryptonite 5ft. Fahgettaboudit Chain and New York Disc Lock

Chains don’t always necessarily come with split links, it’s possible you need to join the chain using a pin and chain splitter tool.

You can buy any re-useable link for an 8 speed chain (shimano compatible, so Shimano, SRAM, KMC - just not campagnolo) and use that in the chain (example here: KMC 8 Speed Missing Link - Silver, 25 Pack https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004XVOU8U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_SwTiDbR1F7EH5)

You will likely need to re-size the new chain anyway to be the same length as your old chain - again using a chain splitter tool.

> extra weight

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I9XHDC2/ref=s9_acsd_top_hd_bw_bDAZzf_c_x_3_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=E2KKPGW5KVTXSQ8CTPVX&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=f8485075-e8dd-5653-9536-ae6b88f799ad&pf_rd_i=194614011

Wow, a whopping 1.5 pounds. Must be such an inconvenience to carry something that could prevent you from losing a multi thousand dollar investment.

I have this chain and a standard padlock:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UMCA24/

Its pretty light/cheap but a thief couldn't get through it quickly with wire cutters like they can with a cable. I use it if i'm going to run into the store for snacks on the way to the trailhead.

i have one of these

there's a huge problem with it actually. it's way too goddamn heavy

seriously, the fucking thing weighs like as much as a fishtank full of water.

i've heard you literally cannot cut the thing in any reasonable amount of time, and only if you have a plasma torch. i tried a composite angle grinder on a u lock made out of the same material and had absolutely no luck.

Make an insurance claim.

For future reference, use an insurance provider that doesn't cap the value of bikes at an unreasonable level (I use TD). Also, that lock is pure garbage. Get a heavy duty hardened steel chain, and a very small and expensive U lock. Eg: https://www.amazon.ca/Kryptonite-999485-Black-39-Inch-Fahgettaboudit/dp/B001JPS200

Get comprehensive insurance. There is not a lock that will stop anyone determined.

There are large chains available... I believe one is called fuhgettaboutit? Use that on something equally unmoving plus an alarmed disk lock.

Edit: Chain

With enough time anyone can steal a bike regardless of the lock used. You want to make your bike harder to get compared to the bike next to yours.
There are many videos online discussing this topic but it comes down to quality U-lock or heavy-duty chain and proper lock technique.

Like you, I got an e-bike so I didn't get sweaty on my commute to work. I got 2 locks. A destination lock that I left on the bike rack at work. And a U-Lock I kept in my bag for when I ran errands. I extra-long U shape allowed some flexibility locking to various racks.

As for an e-bike I suggest getting one from a local store that has experience working on e-bikes. I don't know if Speedy Pete's repairs/maintenance but I would imagine they would. Many of the repair shops around are hesitant to work on my e-bike.

If you can, get a bike with a mid-drive motor. I had many problems with my hub-drive.

1. https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B001SMSUNI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
   
   
2. https://www.amazon.com.mx/Kryptonite-KryptoLok-Candado-bicicleta-integrado/dp/B0081URKGI/ref=pd_sbs_468_5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RKT7TKAPGYR4JWHGTPJV
   
   
3. https://www.amazon.com.mx/Kryptonite-Keeper-Candado-cadena-bicicleta/dp/B00PUCSV7C/ref=pd_sbs_468_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HZG7MW2GYCQC8C4YJ7HW
   
   NO COMPRES CABLES!, los cortan en menos de 1 segundo, si de plano no tienes dinero para un candado, compra una cadena comun y corriente y el mejor candado que encuentres en una ferretería.
   
   
   Me acabo de comprar esta bici en walmart y esta super bien, perfecta para ciudad:
   
   https://www.walmart.com.mx/deportes/Ciclismo/Bicicletas-de-Montana/Bicicleta-de-Montana-Ozark-Trail-Elite-R700C-Gris_00040000990097
   
   si compras esta bici más el candado #1 no llegas ni a los 5000 pesos.

im shitty at descriptions, its actually like this https://www.amazon.com/Abus-Steel-Chain-8210-33-50/dp/B005VMO70Q/ref=sr_1_15?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1518279001&sr=1-15&refinements=p_89%3AABUS

Yeah, I don't mind buying a couple locks. I was looking into these locks:

Kryptonite 999485 Black 14mm x 39-Inch, 1410 New York Fahgettaboudit Chain and New York Disc Lock
Kryptonite New-U New York Fahgettaboudit Mini Heavy Duty Bicycle U Lock Bike Lock
Kryptonite New-U New York Standard Heavy Duty Bicycle U Lock Bike Lock

Abus Granit XPlus 540, U-Lock, Key - USH, 160x230mm, 6.3''x9'', Thickness in mm: 13mm, Black

Probably gonna get the NY chain, and one of these U-locks. Tough decision between the three u-locks. I don't know if the mini Fahgettaboudit will be versatile enough. I like the mounting bracket that comes with the Abus, but the 13mm shackle is putting me off. However, my research tells me that the Abus is the most pick-proof.

Feel free to chip in if u have any suggestions. I had no idea that UofT was that rampant of an area for bike thieves, damn!

I also have a cheap $20 supercycle u-lock from Canadian Tire from when I was a kid, so I'll probably use that as a THIRD lock as well LMAO.

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Another question I have though, is this: Will having 2-4 locks (2-3 on the frame/wheels and a small Abus $15 4mm chain for the seat) on a bike make it MORE susceptible to it being stolen as it'll certainly catch the eye of a thief?

Chain + Padlock

Rookie move buying that, everyone knows you need a U-lock for fighting car drivers.

You got it in one! :o)

For my commute, I use a New York lock which weighs ~5lbs. I can use this lock because it stays in my workplace - there's no way in hell I'd carry it every day!

So why would I bring it on tour? As you mentioned, it's always best to stay away from cities on tour. You may think you're locking your bike up in a safe spot, but you could be in the middle of crime central! I know my little frame lock cannot hold off a bolt-cutters, but that just means I never become complacent.

For extra security, there's an add-on chain which locks into the frame lock

Kryptonite 14mm Chain and U-Lock for the back wheel and frame.

Master Lock Force 3 U-Lock for locking the front wheel to the frame and loop a cable in with that to go around the post and back wheel.

Pinhead Set. Skewers for both wheels. Locks the headset and the seatpost as well.

I've had 2 bikes stolen. Never again.

https://www.amazon.ca/Kryptonite-Keeper-Integrated-Bicycle-32-Inch/dp/B00LOABKQI/ref=asc_df_B00LOABKQI

this ones cheaper but I think you could cut it with bolt cutters

Question on bike security! I'm moving to Oakland and want to get some additional opinions on the setup I'm planning. I know that if a thief really wants my bike, they'll find a way to steal it, but my thinking is that if I can make my bike look especially hard to steal, very few people will bother trying.

First off, the bike will be in a gated garage under my apartment building. I'm going to place it on one of those Harbor Freight motorcycle dollies so I can position it between the wall and my roommate's car. The bike will be covered when I'm not using it.

For security, I have one of those Kryptonite locks I'll be using on the front disc. No alarm, though I'm thinking one with an alarm might be a good investment. I'm also going to make an anchor out of a 5 gallon bucket filled with quikrete, which I estimate will be about 100 lbs. I'm going to cast a thick U-bolt into it with a base plate to prevent pullout, then chain that to my bike's back wheel with this bad boy, which (according to some guy on YouTube) is resistant to anything short of the power tools or his best set of hardened bolt cutters.

I'm guessing the U-bolt would be the weak point here. The security chain is flattened so bolt cutters can't create a huge pressure point, whereas the U-bolt has a rounded cross section. If it doesn't stick out too far above the concrete, I'm guessing it would be hard to get good leverage on with bolt cutters, so that might help. I could use a coffee can as formwork to recess the bolt into the concrete, requiring the bolt cutters to be straight up and down in order to reach it and keeping a thief from gaining leverage on it.

Artist's rendition. Thanks in advance for any advice!

I read about that, but was thinking it looks a little small. I was thinking of the chain version, but my girlfriend insists that it's too heavy and there's no way I'll be carrying that daily back and forth from work.

perhaps one with security levels above 5/10?

Or one that says "I'm willing make an effort slow down your stealing .. whatever." Yes, they sell cheap shit that can practically be cut with a large pair of wire-cutters (Heavy Duty Scissors) for $7. So does everybody else. How would this $35 lock be?


I endorse the statement Abus makes some nice stuff*

• mostly because: I watched a bunch of lock picking videos on youtube one night.

After reading all of the bike stealing threads, bike stolen videos etc. I purchased:
This
and this
and this

I think I'll be good.

You're best off buying one of these https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Legend-Chain-Bicycle-Padlock/dp/B001SMUBQC/ref=sr_1_44?ie=UTF8&qid=1474734696&sr=8-44&keywords=bike+chain+hardened

and learning how to use it.

It's not unstealable against someone with an angle grinder and some time to kill, but it's damn near not worth the effort.

What do you mean lock proof? Just get one of these. I rock this in the city in LA with no problems.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001KQ5ZRG/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?qid=1404708148&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70

Like bloodypalace said, the heavy chain (it weighs 10+ lbs) is a bit much for most people to carry around and at $120 it's a significant investment as well.

The U-lock can be beat with a car jack. The thief sticks one of these inside and expands the jack until the lock fails like this
...or if it's a cheapy lock the thief just uses a ball point pen.

Its not a normal chain. I have a bolt cutter resistant chain. They'd need a angle grinder.

But I was just wondering if you've had cases of people actually stealing locked down guns or if its more of a crime of opportunity thing.

It really comes down to comfort. I leave a Kryptonite Chain Lock at work so I don't have to lug a serious lock w/ me every day on my commute. For popping into the store on my way home, I carry a Palmy aluminum u-lock which is by no means safe, but it IS very light. Otherwise, I carry the Kryptonite mini u-lock

BUT...all this being said, if a thief wants a bike, they're going to get it. The only thing you can do is to deter them.

I have been trying to choose a lock for the last week, but it really depends on your situation. I wanted something flexible/longer so I can lock my bike to irregular things where there is no bike rack. The town I live in doesn't have bicycle theft problems. Weight was also a concern since I will be carrying it with me. All of this in mind I decided to purchase the Kryptonite 785 Keeper Integrated Chain Bicycle Lock.

The goal for a thief is to not get caught. The harder you make your bike to steal, the longer it’ll take them, the less likely it will be for them to take it. Prior to getting a place with a garage here’s what I used:

Bike cover: Universal Waterproof Dust Sun proof Indoor Outdoor Motorcycle Motorbike Cover for Harley Davison, Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawazaki Etc, Package Bag Include (Black/Silver, XXL) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HEDMAKI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_InCLzb08BQN2H

Bully Alarm Lock with Pager: Bully Alarm Lock with Pager - One Size https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WJF7FC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.mCLzbTMRGYNG

ABUS disc lock: Abus Detecto 7000 RS1 pixel yellow - Motorcycle brake disc lock - 3D Position Detection, Security level 13 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003EIJMFO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_GoCLzbT7TE62R

Kryptonite chain and lock: Kryptonite 999522 Black 12mm x 66" (1217) New York Chain and Evolution Series-4 Orange 14mm Disc Lock https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001N888OS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.oCLzbMZWGGFD (when you install it make sure there is little to no slack and that it’s not laying or close to laying on the ground! If you go through a tire use the back tire!)

It was a PAIN IN THE ASS to add and remove all of this every time I wanted to go out but every time I came out my bike was there. I had a bike stolen before that and I was determined not to have that happen again. Remember, however, that it can be stolen anywhere at anytime of a thief believes there’s a good chance they’ll get away with it.

Whenever I rode I rode. I didn’t stop anywhere that I couldn’t keep a constant eye on it. But for some that’s not always possible and, in the end, you just have to hope you won’t fall victim but if you do have insurance on it. It won’t make you whole but it’ll make getting a replacement a little easier.

I really like the bully lock and pager though because it’s a U-Lock that goes on the front tire. It’s pretty sensitive. Also you can put it on and remove it pretty easily and it’s transportable. I’ve seen videos and I haven’t seen anyone be able to cut through or remove it without triggering the alarm and it’ll prevent someone from riding off with your bike.

There's no 100% theft-proof method which sucks but it is just the reality. But you *can* make it damn hard. Here's what I did b/c I was in the same situation as you.

1. Invest in a good fuckin chain. Any chain can be cut with enough time but a thief won't waste time on a bike with a heavy chain when there are plenty of bikes/scooters/etc. in Cstat up for grabs. I bought a used one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettaboudit-1410-Chain/dp/B001JPS200/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543377402&sr=8-3&keywords=faghettaboudit.
   
2. Always lock your steering when parking
   
3. Best place to park would be a house garage. But if you're like me and live at an apartment, park in a highly visible area with foot traffic and preferably with other bikes/scooters (strength in numbers, yo). And *make sure* there's a steel beam/pole or some shit you'll be able to chain your bike up to. Bonus points if there are cameras too.
   
4. Having a bike cover would help too but I don't personally use one.
   
   The key in all of this is to make your bike the biggest pain in the ass to steal. You don't have to do all of this, just be better than the other guy who parks his bike in the area.
   
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Sorry, dude. That sucks.

Consider getting one of these for your next bike.

U-Locks and cables are famously easy to bypass. Chains are much, much more difficult to bypass. Bummer nobody told you that when you bought the U-Lock. :-(

After my third bike was stolen, I started using one of these. Over the past 2 years, I've gotten a lot of compliments but no visible molestation of the lock itself.

I have and use a Kryptonite 5ft. Fahgettaboudit Chain and New York Disc Lock. It's very heavy, when I can't anchor it to something I wrap it twice around and through the rim, also have a disk lock in the front and I use a really awful dirty on the outside cover.

Thing to remember with thieves and locks is that it is not so much that you are trying to stop them from stealing your property or entering your home, you are making it as difficult as possible for them so that they move onto an easier option. Most theft is opportunity and a small window of time. Increase the window of time needed for the theft and it works in your favor.

Nothing can escape theft during long-term outdoor storage, but with this lock, I've literally seen bike thieves leave my bike alone (park your bike at Meiji and watch through the window). Should be enough for short term:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001KQ5ZRG/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=1451809842&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=kryptonite+chain+lock&dpPl=1&dpID=41W15UHVbhL&ref=plSrch

I'd spend around $100-$120. Thieves are getting good at breaking the larger, cheaper U-locks.

No I'm suggesting you look up retailers in the area and buy it from them. They cost about 100~200 CAD.

Edit because I'm sure you won't bother searching.

http://www.o2gearshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&language=en&currency=USD&products_id=36915&origin=Nextag&zmam=55982562&zmas=1&zmac=9&zmap=36915

http://www.hudsontrail.com/viewVendorItem/462/11719/0/

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Bicycle-Evolution-Series-3-Foot/dp/B001KQ5ZRG/ref=sr_1_21?s=cycling&ie=UTF8&qid=1341722961&sr=1-21

And there's much more if you put some effort into searching. What you see on their page isn't the retail price but the anti theft protection and up to how much they're reimbursing should a bike lock get cut or stolen with that bike lock in place. You should really do some research into what you're claiming. Prevents you from looking silly like thinking that the bike lock costs $4000. There's a nice tag before it that states ANTI THEFT PROTECTION with a hyperlinked url to a FAQ page explaining their reimbursement policies.

http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Documents/TERMS_AND_CONDITIONS.pdf

http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Documents/anti_theft_website_2012.pdf <- Maximum payout vs Insurance Prices per year/renewal

Some more info just because I'm a nice person.


tl;dr Read you twat. It isn't a four thousand dollar lock. It's insured up to that amount. No where on the page does it say the cost of the lock is that much. States right before these supposed prices "ANTI THEFT PROTECTION : (INSERT PRICES) ".