Reddit mentions: The best camping hammocks

I got into hammocking for camping/backpacking trips, and found it so comfortable I ended up hanging a hammock in my bedroom. Now I pretty much only use my bed to fold clothes... At home I sleep in a 12 foot hammock I made out of wide 1.6 Hexon. When I go backpacking, I'm really, really happy with my Chameleon. It's comfy and awesome. Also, Dutch keeps inventing new stuff that's compatible with the Chameleon zippers. For example, Dutch just came out with the Chameleon Sidecar, which is a zip-on side pouch that serves the same purpose as the (much-loved) shelf in the Warbonnet Blackbird, except if you want you can put one on both sides of your Chameleon. Switch things around, head-end, foot-end, right-lay, left-lay... The Chameleon is super flexible.

I just purchased a Warbonnet Thunderfly tarp (like, this morning. They've already popped it in the mail, so now I can refresh the tracking info 20 times a day... :sigh: ) I think it's a good compromise between the light weight of a hex tarp and the sideways-rain protection of a Superfly-style tarp with doors. (I live in the Pacific Northwest, so rain is always a consideration for me. Cuban is out of my price range right now, but in any case I'd want to experiment with that size and shape in sil-poly before investing in cuban.)

I also recently bought 1" Venom UHMWPE Ultralight Tree Straps which I use with some titanium Dutch clips (rather than passing the tree strap through its own loop) and then Becket hitch to the continuous loops on each end of my hammock.

I've got a Hammock Gear Burrow 20˚ quilt and a Hammock Gear Econ Incubator 10˚ underquilt, which I love with a disturbing passion (I tend to sleep cold, but that's not a problem when I'm nestled in my cocoon of down:) If weight and volume is of slightly less concern to you, I highly recommend Hammock Gear's Econ line as about $100 cheaper while still being pretty darn good (just a little heavier and bulkier for the same temp rating).

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If you're just getting into hammocking you might experiment with a cheap hammock from Amazon before putting down a bunch of money for an awesome piece of gear that might not suit you. Just remember, you want it to be as long as possible (most people consider 10 feet to be the bare minimum for comfort in a gathered hammock), and extra width doesn't hurt at all either. I bought this hammock when it was only $10, and immediately bought 2 more because it was pretty decent (Not nearly as good as a proper 11 foot hammock, but almost 10 feet long and fairly wide). I see the price has come back down to $11 -- well worth it for a halfway-decent gathered-end hammock. I slept in one of these for almost a year before making myself a longer hammock :) (I am a bit shorter than you, but I think you could still be reasonably comfortable in one of these. And then if you end up upgrading you've got a spare hammock that you don't care about so you can casually hang it without really worrying about kids (or grownups) swinging and being stupid in it...). Get a couple of 8" continuous loops from Dutch to feed through the ends of the hammock to replace the stupid ropes it comes with. You will probably also want to add a structural ridgeline to help get a consistent sag with your hammock and to hold a ridgeline organizer. Dutch sells some adjustable structural ridgelines, or you can just use some stout cord.

If bugs are an issue in your area, you might pick up a bug net to go with your cheap netless hammock. The Fronkey style bugnets are pretty popular add-ons.

(Of course, at this point it might be cheaper to just have bought a Chameleon, but this game is how most of us ended up owning several hammocks. On the plus side, we can help outfit our friends for hammock camping trips...)

Freezing from underneath is a problem in hammocks... If you've already got a sleeping pad, you can lie on it in your hammock, though your shoulders tend to get cold where they press against the hammock fabric. The ultimate in comfort is an underquilt. In addition to my fancy down backpacking underquilt, I've got a synthetic Snugpak Underquilt that I use on my hammock at home. I tend to sleep cold, and I find that this underquilt is only good down to about 65˚ before I start getting cold, but a regular human could probably take it down to 55 or 50˚.

If you're just getting started, a square tarp works pretty well and the Kelty Noah 9 tarp is inexpensive and more than 12.5 feet on the diagonal, so works pretty well for hammocking. Or you could just search for 'hex tarp' on amazon.com and get quite a few results -- just make sure it's long enough to cover the ridgeline of your hammock with at least a foot to spare (so at least 6" of extra on each side). In general, sil-nylon is slightly sturdier, slightly heavier, and more water absorbent than sil-poly, which most people agree is strong enough and better at shedding water. Sil-poly is what most people who can't afford cuban fiber are getting.

Hummingbird Hammocks makes some nice, lightweight tree straps that pair well with some Camp USA Nano Carabiners for a very simple and relatively lightweight setup. If you don't care about weight and want a cheaper option, just buy about 21 feet of 1" polyester strap from strapworks.com. Cut it into 2 equal pieces, melt the ends, and sew a 6" loop on one end of each strap. Learn how to tie a Slippery Becket Hitch and you've got a super simple, super cheap suspension. You can either feed the loops through themselves, or use the Nano Carabiners or some Dutch clips if you want a system that's a little easier to adjust after you've hung the hammock.

Speaking of the link for the Becket Hitch, the site I linked to is called The Ultimate Hang. I highly, highly recommend you spend some time reading through all the fabulous (and fabulously illustrated) hammocking information on the site, and perhaps even purchase his book :)

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If you're trying to decide which fancy, expensive hammock to buy, my best advice is to see if you can try the different models and versions for yourself. Check hammockforums.net and see if there are any group hangs happening anywhere near you, or maybe post and ask if anyone near you has some hammocks in various fabrics for you to try. I'm close to your weight, and bought the Chameleon in Hexon 1.0 after reading the old weight limit of 250 lbs (it's since been updated to 200lbs). I love it (it's nice and stretchy and makes a really great cradle for my head). I'm not really worried about using it by myself, as I figure they're being pretty conservative on their weight rating and probably changed the rating after one person had an ...incident... Alas, my dog weighs about 60 pounds, so I either have to upgrade to Hexon 1.6 or not sleep with my dog on the trail. On the one hand, my dog is very warm and I sleep cold.
On the other hand, my dog is a lab and if there's any water he'll probably be wading in it or have just rolled in something disgusting and I probably don't want him in my hammock anyhow...
(I made the hammock I sleep in at home out of Hexon 1.6 and it's just not as delightfully stretchy as the 1.0. But some people really prefer the firmness of the 1.6 or even the 2.4, so ???)

Anyhow, hopefully that wall of text is at least a little helpful :) Good luck finding a hammock/insulation/suspension/tarp combination that suits you. Even if you don't find "The Perfect Hammock" I think you'll find yourself more comfy in a hammock than on the ground.

PS. Don't forget to sleep on the diagonal!

If you left when you said in this comment, then I hope the trip is going well and this may be too little to late for this trip, haha. With that said, I really like the kit. Having backpacked 2,000 miles of the Appalachian trail in two long excursions separated by the harsh 2013/2014 weather and learning my limit on whats just enough to get by on for me, here would be a few things I would change:

Switch out the balaclava for a Buff. Awesome piece of gear and very multifunctional.

Forego the 2x extra socks. One extra pair should be plenty for camp/sleep if you need them or if your daily ones get gross (doesn't sound like you're going on an extended excursion so this doesn't seem to be a concern) and I wouldn't bother with waterproof shoes or socks. As much as companies have gotten better waterproofing technology, in my experience light, breathable gear will always fare better, especially for shoes and socks - waterproof will work until you get swamp feet if they do not dry/breathe enough, or work until water gets into the shoe. Which, if you are cycling, the only recognizable reason would be rain. Its going to get in your shoes, period. Your body heat and riding on the bike will dry out regular shoes and socks just fine. I would go for the thicker soled trainers but nothing beefier than that, just to have less pedal power loss than thin soled trainers.

With that said, a good pair of gaiters (shoe covers) is worth it, and a very simple and extremely light solution can be found at

dirtygirlgaiters.com

I hiked in mesh trainers with dirty girl gaiters through 2 feet of snow for about 3 weeks. It worked very well, but I really needed about another inch of "waterproofing" (shoes that weren't technically waterproof, but had higher walls instead of mesh right down to the sole) and got another pair of trainers that worked better. No issues with wet feet after that.

I would not take that bivy, period. That style of bivy isn't multifunctional, which in my gear is something I try to employ. I would go with:

A bug bivy:
http://borahgear.com/bugbivy.html
6oz
(The one I continue to use and love is the Marmot Terra Cotta, but its a bit heavier and uses one small pole instead of a rope pullout. I can't find where anyone sells it anymore. I slept under the stars most nights I could with just a bug bivy)

And a tarp (the lighter the better, but more expensive and can be a bit more delicate. Never had an issue with cuben fiber tarps myself, 100% waterproof and LIGHT):
http://www.hammockgear.com/standard-cuben-fiber-tarp-with-doors/

This tarp is the one I use. 6.5oz not weighing the UL tie off rope or snakeskin (more on this in a second) It has doors so if I know its going to be rough weather or cutting wind you can 'batten down the hatches', tie it close to the ground and close the doors, which would keep me from having to use warmer, heavier, bulkier gear for the windchill factor. Easy to get out of even like that and can set it up in any configuration the moment calls for. Tarps have more of a learning curve but it really isn't that difficult when you start using them and don't take long to set up once you get it down.

Snakeskins for a tarp are the best thing EVER. The skins follow the ridgeline of the tarp and hold everything together. All that you have to do to put the tarp up is pull it out of the your bag, tie one end off, tie the other, then slide the snakeskins from the middle out, unfurl the tarp and tie off your corners. Nothing touches the ground and takes 3 minutes to be done.

The mesh bivy/tarp system is going to weigh just about the same, ~1lb as the bivy you're using if you use light guylines for the tarp.

HAMMOCKING:
If you are attracted to the idea of hammock camping but haven't tried, I would go that route instead of the bivy/mat/tarp. You probably won't want to comepletely overhaul your system this time being your trip is so close, but for me its the best sleeping system. Its going to weigh pretty much the same, my basic set up with the hammock, all the lines, treestraps, and tarp is somewhere at 1.5lbs, whereas the bivy you are using is 1lb and the pad is 7oz. You still would need insulation, and you may still use the pad you have (more on that later) so it may be a little bit heavier (gasp) but much more comfortable and flexible system, not needing to have a flat spot that isnt going to get wet, needing only two trees 8-14 feet apart. Use the same tarp, but have this:

Grand Trunk Nano 7 hammock (I am 5'5" and 150ish so this fits me well. You may need to find a different UL hammock that fits you if you aren't around my size) 7 oz:

Grand Trunk Nano Hammock https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002WZN77Y/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_a7ClybWE775H7

Use a whoopie sling system (NO KNOTS, easiest way to hang a hammock. Slide the rope braided through itself to achieve the right hang):

https://shop.whoopieslings.com/

(Not that you'd need it now, but I made a very simple bugnet for the hammock like seen here:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Hammock-Bug-Net-Cheap/ )


I've slept in hammocks for about 1.5 years out of the last 3 whenever I discovered using them as a real sleeping system when hiking. Started hanging at home. Best sleep of my life. Best of all when camping everything is off the ground, and you can pee without even getting out of bed in the cold (as a guy) by just leaning out to one side (this takes practice xD )

For insulation you need to find out how you can be comfortable. I have a down under quilt (connects to the ropes of the hammock and cradles the hammock underneath) rated to 0 (been WARM, not just surviving, to -10 with the extra fill when I custom ordered the 0 degree bag [I had the over quilt with it as well during that time, which is like a sleeping bag with the head end opening like a blanket just past the footbox, much easier to get in and out of in a hammock]) that I also got at hammockgear.com. Its a small operation and the guy who owns it is super helpful.

You can also go with a space blanket as an underquilt. It would take a bit of taping and adding a clip to use like an underquilt, but it wouldn't take long and be very light and cheap.

Or keep your pad and use it in the hammock. Not the most ideal but it would work and still be more comfortable than the ground. I used the NeoAir Xlite, similar to the Nemo you're using, and was comfortable down to 40° with a sleeping bag liner and wool long johns and long sleeve shirt

The insulation factor is going to greatly depend on the person and where they are comfortable at, and what gear they are comfortable using. Keep in mind you can still prevent wind like you would with a bivy on the ground by tying the hammock a bit lower and tarp lower to the point that the tarp edge meets the ground.

I hope anything I've said here is useful. Definitely would like to hear how the trip goes, and whether or not your concerns were met or other concerns came up. Good luck!!

I have an ENO and an Honest Outfitters one that I got from Amazon for about 30 bucks (including straps).

I love my ENO and it has held up wonderfully. When my wife wanted one, we decided to try a cheaper option (she doesn't use it as much) and got the Honest outfitters one. Honestly they are pretty comparable as far as quality and all goes. The straps are exactly the same (Atlas brand, same style, size)
The only real difference is when you fold them up, it seems like the ENO gets a little smaller than the other and the ENO has a little better quality drawstring. Everything else seems to be the same (size, weight, mil of fabric, stitching, etc), the ENO seems a little smaller and easier to handle, but the straps go in a separate bag instead of in the bag with the hammock like the other so that's prob why. All in all we are pleased with cheaper one just the same. I perfer the smaller size of the eno because I strap it to my camelbak and take it with me everywhere (and the awesome print)

ENO is a great option. If you don't have the money to spend then just get that Honest Outfitters one and call it a day. You aren't missing much at all. Especially for a fest hammock that's prob going to get abused and all. I can't speak for the longevity of the honest outfitter one like I can the eno (bc I haven't had it that long or used it all that much) but the fact that it's literally a 3rd of the price of an ENO makes me think that it can stand to have a little less life in the tank...

TL;DR:


ENO- Awesome all around. Expensive (maybe paying a bit extra for the name). Would still recommend.


Honest Outfitters (Amazon)- Also awesome but with very minor dips in quality, 1/3 of the price of eno, would also recommend. <-- best bang for your buck.

[Amazon link to H.O hammock] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LTEPYC4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

5 pounds?!? no way. The pack alone is 4.8 pounds.

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Honestly - I'd replace every one of those items. They are pretty crappy items in each category.
I realize that everyone doesn't have a big budget - but even at those prices you can make smarter choices.

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Backpack
A tactical backpack rarely does well for wilderness backpacking. It is heavy (almost 5 pounds) and does not carry loads well (weak hipbelt). This specific one is only 47 liters, which will unlikely fit your kit.

Any backpack can hold a water bladder. You don't need a special sleeve for this. I prefer mine on top of my pack, not in the sleeve. Easier to get at and refill along the route - allowing me to carry less.

I'd recommend going into a local shop and trying on a few brands/models. See what fits your body well - as fit is key to getting 'the best' backpack. Look at brands like Osprey, Gregory, and similar in the 55-65 liter range.

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Shelter
10x7 is an okay size for a tarp. I'd probably get this instead: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EUHZ74I
You'll also need a ground cloth of some kind. Tyvek can be had for super cheap and works well.

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Sleeping pad
That looks fine, but realize that it will insulate you very little (RValue of 1.3). I'd probably get this instead (because I know Klymit brand and not 'OutdoorMan'): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RFG0NM

If you really want to go cheap - just get a closed foam sleeping pad. Not as comfortable, but as cheap as $20.

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Kitchen
That DIY grill and cheap cook set look fine.
One option is to go to your local thrift store and look for a pot/pan. If you just need 1 single piece is often easy to pick up there for cheap.

Will you also have a camp stove? This is a cheap/popular choice: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B4FY8YO

Do you have a water filter / purification method? The Sawyer Squeeze is popular. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005EHPVQW/
You can use simple disposable water bottles like SmartWater or Gatorade for your bottles. A bladder is nice, but cost more and heavier.

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Accessories

• Rope - skip paracord. It sucks for just about every application outside bracelets. I'd get this instead: http://lawsonequipment.com/Cordage/Ironwire-Fusion-p1076.html
  
• Knife - sure the Mora is fine. Don't go overboard here, you really don't need much.
  
  Then you'll likely need a bunch of other small miscellaneous items. First Aid Kit, headlamp, lighter, pack liner, food bag, compass, maps, etc.
  Plus clothes of course.
  
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  A typical pack weight for an overnight adventure is 20 pounds. Weather is a big factor in what you have to carry, but generally 15-30 pounds is the range you'll find the majority of experienced backpackers. 5lbs would be a ridiculously low pack weight (with or without consumables like food and water). I'd recommend you shoot to keep yours under 30, since you are new and used the word 'bushcraft' haha.
  
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  In the end - these are merely suggestions for improvement. You can totally get outside with the items you listed or nothing at all. Experience is the real key here. Try to borrow some items and spend the weekend outside. Take notes on what worked and what didn't, make changes, and try again. A kit of gear evolves over time and getting it 100% right on the first try is impossible. It helps to put serious thought into these items, in hopes of saving money, which is why I generally suggest to 'buy once, cry once'. Otherwise you buy 2 crappy versions, then ultimately realize what you should have bought in the first place - to buy that 3rd.
  
  

For mid range for someone new to hanging, I would absolutely get a hennessy explorer or expedition. Amazon link

Good quality bugnet, tarp, hammock, and suspension for a combined price and "hassle" quotient that cannot be beat.

EDIT: If you're under 5'8" and want to save some money, you could try the "Scout" model (amazon link) that costs $90. It is not an asymmetrical design though, so the lay might be slightly less comfortable.

Everything else recommended here (so far) requires you to go get your own suspension, bugnet, and/or tarp and figure it all out yourself. That's something I would totally recommend, but maybe not for your first time out and for your first hang.

For example:

the "eno package" -- $185. Spending this much on an eno setup is IMO crazy; get a cottage manufacturer setup instead (I like wilderness logics) for just a little bit more. Way higher quality and they'll come with more and better accessories.

• eno doublenest ($60)
  
• eno bugnet ($60)
  
• eno tarp ($80)
  
• suspension (~$25)
  
  or the "grand trunk" version -- ($175). Same here.
  
  
• grand trunk hammock w/bugnet ($70)
  
• grand trunk tarp ($80)
  
• suspension (~$25)
  
  or the "super budget yukon outfitters" version -- $65-105. Decent option for those on a budget, but the durability cannot be vouched for.
  
  
• yukon outfitters hammock w/ bugnet ($40) -- $20-30 on woot
  
• yukon outfitters hammock tarp ($40) -- $20 on woot
  
• suspension (~$25)
  
  
  So the only one that'll save you any significant amount of money will be the Yukon outfitters setup. At best it will save you $80 or so, if you're in a rush (which you are) and can't wait for Woot, then you'll save maybe $50. For that amount of savings, I would personally not sacrifice the durability and usability of the hennessy, especially if you're expecting any kind of inclement weather.
  
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  Keep in mind none of this takes care of your insulation problem. For someone just getting into it, I would say use your sleeping bag and put a pad in your hammock for under insulation. Later on you can start thinking about underquilts and top quilts, but it's overkill for you right now.

https://smile.amazon.com/Premium-Outdoor-Hammock-Carabiners-Included/dp/B01M1EQCZO

I'd recommend this hammock instead. It's 11 feet long instead of 10 feet for the other one. Longer means it's easier for you to get a good, flat, diagonal lie. I have a 10 foot single and it's great when I need to go lighter or want to use my mummypod, but an 11 foot double hammock is waaaaay more comfortable with an underquilt and top quilt.

Cheap summer underquilt, good down to about 40: https://smile.amazon.com/OneTigris-Hammock-Underquilt-Lightweight-Packable/dp/B01N95BEZU

Any blanket or an unzipped sleeping bag will work, but if you want a dedicated one: https://smile.amazon.com/SnugPak-Jungle-Blanket-Survival-Polyester/dp/B07BGY8WW2

That snugpak blanket is probably a bit warm but easy to hang your feet or knees out of and let it vent.

Another thing you could do to save money is if your sleeping bag has two zippers you can unzip the foot end and run your hammock through the bag. Sleeping on top of your bag inside the hammock is pointless because you'll compress the insulation and get a cold butt. Running the hammock through the bag will force you to lay inline like a banana but you will probably stay pretty warm on the cheap. It's way more comfortable to use a dedicated underquilt, though.

I love camping/outdoor stuff too and I've gotten a lot of fun gifts over the years. Here's a few that I think any outdoor lover would enjoy.

Flint fire starter
Compact camping hammock
Camping Tomahawk (Seriously, me and my friends had so much fun learning to throw this)

If you're really stuck you can always just take a trip to REI, that store is like candyland for the outdoor lover, although they can be expensive. Camelbacks, lanterns, oudoor cookware, and all other cool stuff can be found there.

If you're leaning towards a gaming gift that can be harder unless you know what he needs, and most parts for a gaming computer are probably going to clear your budget. But you mentioned he likes GoT so I could reccomend the Game of Thrones - Board Game. I've played this and it's a lot of fun.

• HAMMOCK - You can surely go lighter than 800g on the hammock without a problem.
  This one is 198g but it's not the largest hammock and I have not personally used it. My current hammock is 550g with whoopie slings in place of what it came with. I think you could likely go 3-400g safely and not risk losing too much comfort.
  
  
• TARP - Mine is homemade and it sits at 440g with everything to hang it. I made it very cheaply with silnylon seconds from [Noah Lamport] (http://www.noahlamport.com/contactus.aspx) but you have to call them and talk to them. You can go smaller and have a lot less weight but I like mine. If you feel like throwing money around you can get down to 122g.
  
  
• STRAPS My homemade straps are 90(ish)g and work very well. You could go shorter for less weight but I wanted flexibility on my hang options. Google gives you lots of options near that cheaply.
  
  
• UNDERQUILT - If you want to save weight 3/4 length underquilts are probably the direction you want. 3/4 length @ 450g I just linked the first one I searched and do not have experience with it specifically. I could list tons of others but I don't think you will have too much difficulty finding options in your weight range.
  
  
• TOPQUILT advice will be similar to underquilt. Just look around and see what fits your need. You may use your current bag for the time being to save money. I personally would buy that last as the function of a topquilt vs sleeping bag isn't that far separated.
  
  
• SUSPENSION - I would probably convert whatever suspension system you get on the hammock to amsteel/dyneema for a weight savings. Its fun to make and not that expensive.
  
  I would have been more detailed but I might just have a hangover.

dont get her an ENO. they're expensive, and they're not as comfortable due to their demensions as some other options out there.

I would checkout dutchwaregear.com they have a nice purple polyD hammock she would probably like. The polyd will be more comfortable with the longer hammock while weighing less than the eno. Price wise you can get the hammock complete with cinch buckle suspension for the price of just the eno, factor $40 more for suspension and imho it's a no brainer. Depending on your budget, you could spend the extra dough on extras like a ridgeline, and organizer but that may be a bit over the top if it's her first hammock and she's just getting into it. If she's into hiking and camping, she may be interested in a tarp as well. The Yukon tarp regularly goes on woot for like $29. Then there's the whole ordeal of insulation. Sleeping pad and sleepingbag seem to be an acceptable sacrifice on weight and comfort to price for some.

EDIT: OP you're in luck! WOOT just went live today 6 more hours to go. This is a better hammock than the eno imho.

Hello fellow lonely grad student! What I've done on weekends before is walk from Sac downtown to midtown, grab a coffee/beer on a patio somewhere and watch life go by outside. I'll sometimes bring my laptop to get some extra work done, but getting out of town for a bit does wonders for my mental health.

If you wanted to stay in Davis, a long walk/bike ride through the arboretum followed by a refreshing beverage downtown is also nice.

I have a relatively inexpensive hammock that I'll bring with me in my backpack, find a good shady spot to hang it up, and read and relax for a while. Davis has a ton of great parks with perfect spots for this. If you live anywhere near the Covell Greenbelt, I'd definitely recommend wandering around there. I've also found McKinley park in Sac to be a good option.

Awesome! I'll get a bunch of pictures and put 'em in a self post so I can see what is thought of my Gregory.

And I have a 12oz Grand Trunk hammock with which I considered purchasing mosquito netting and a rainfly. Those Hennessies looked great, but I couldn't find anything on their site, or any reviews on Amazon that spoke of insulation. Would it be necessary to get a hammock quilt for the colder weather?

I don't have trekking poles, and the only time I've used them was on the Smokies and in Cohutta. But I've been reading Whiteblaze, and there's a lot of talks about forging deep streams, so I think they're quite the necessity. I have assorted stuff sacs at home, so I'm not worried about them. What I am worried about is having a wet pair of trailrunners. I've run (not hiked) in rainy conditions, got them soaked, and they took about 2-3 days to dry, and I don't want to be put out of commission for long. In regards to wear, I guess I could mail them poste restante at post offices about 300 miles apart and alternate pairs.


Great, noted! And that's what I'm trying to keep in mind, scouting principles are fighting it, but for the AT, lightness > preparedness. Shelters are about 8 miles in between, so if something goes wrong, I'm (almost) always less than four miles from help. For ease of use, I'm going to have a platypus water bottle with a hose, it's exorbitantly light. What kind of stove did you use (make?) that used unpressurized alcohol, just a can-stove? And how did that treat you?

Mug dropped!

Loving Whiteblaze, I'm registered but just lurking now, immensely helpful.

Thanks for all your help!

Woke up to rain, and the gear worked great!

I made sure to tie small drip lines to all of my suspension (including the tarp suspension) and not a drop came in. Even had the tarp relatively high and in porch mode all night (for the view of the moon).

Hammock is just a cheapo Grand Trunk that has served me faithfully for about four years without any trouble. Although I'm deciding that the extra comfort of moving up to an 11 foot hammock will probably be worth it soon.

Eno tree straps

Eno profly tarp

homemade PLUQ worked wonderfully during the ~50 degree non-windy evening.

Jungle blanket: This was my first time using it instead of a bag, and man oh man was it great. Was nice and cozy down to 50 degrees, and I didn't get tangled in it like I do in my sleeping bags. Recommend 100% if you don't want to drop the dough on a down topquilt. Maybe even if you do, since this seems way better in the wet than down would.

River is the Potomac, and I got it all there on my bike. About 40 miles outside of DC

-a hammock because the outdoors is awesome

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-these pens, although a little pricey, are AMAZING. Additionally, you can get refills for them on Amazon and those are inexpensive

-best coloring pencils imho

-Some really awesome book series one, two, three and four

-for math, here's some sodoku

-Some movies: Overboard, When Harry Met Sally, Burlesque

-Telescope

-Picnic basket

-Spirituality book

-some incense and an awesome fairy burner to go with them

I'll try and add some more later :)

Thanks for the contest

I really really want it! ( $5 and $10

That looks overpriced, also they don't show you anything about how you hang it, I would suggest it would be like a gathered end hammock but with no explanation I'm pretty lost here.

If you're looking to save money you could get a grand trunk for 19.00 or so http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-GT-05-Ultralight-Hammock/dp/B001AIBJSI

Or you could get an ENO for the price of the hammock you list http://www.amazon.com/Eagles-Nest-Outfitters-SingleNest-Hammock/dp/B001DDPG9I/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1346975200&sr=1-1&keywords=ENo just make sure you get the 42 dollar one.

All three of these hammocks are going to need a suspension system. You can read all about that here http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=86

Now if you're not going camping and just going to hang in the back yard I would suggest the texsport la paz
http://www.amazon.com/Texsport-14258-La-Paz-Hammock/dp/B000P9GZUA/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1346975458&sr=1-1&keywords=tex+hammock probably the best backyard napper around.

Hope all this information helps.

TL/DR Don't get a hammock from these people, there are way cheaper, lighter, and better options for camping and also for the back yard.

Not tech but there are some great Hammocks that you can get on Amazon for $20-30. They easily fit in your bag and you can set up/take down in 5 minutes! Just make sure you get one with straps (like this one) and not ropes since that's what make them so versatile and easy to setup.

Now anytime you see two trees you can setup your hammock and relax!

I think a https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AXN3HG8 is a good choice. If you're cash tight and want something for inside, this is a good $50 solution. Pairing it with a $40 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0167IYGH6 underquilt works well.

I have a friend who has back issues and I gave him that hammock after testing it out and being pretty pleased with it. He's been full-timing it for what must be around 6 months now and loves it. I've been full timing for ~8 years.

The reason I would dissuade you from getting a dual function hammock is primarily because you'll need a lot more equipment to sleep outside and it can add up. I think it's better to get a great bang for the buck for inside if that's your primary use case.

great club idea! I'm a novice, but I've got a cheap hammock that I love. the brand is yes4all and I got it on Amazon.

it's cheap yet durable, I have one and it's great! been using it regularly since Christmas (I know not too long) and I've yet to find something wrong with it! I've had 450lbs in it, which is the upper limit, and had no problems. iirc on Amazon the cheapest is a single for like $12. I got a double and tree straps so mine came out to about $25 (you can choose different options). also certain colors are more expensive. brb with a link!

edit [here ya go!] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XVDWQNC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468995414&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=hammock+yes4all&dpPl=1&dpID=415N4-AKvrL&ref=plSrch). looks like they're a few bucks more than when I bought mine, but still decent pricing!

Amazon has [this one] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G3ZURYU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468995512&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=hammock&dpPl=1&dpID=41ckWpx8gbL&ref=plSrch) too for fairly cheap, but more expensive than yes4all. I don't have personal experience with them though :/

good luck!

I'm not going to recommend any particular underquilt, but I did want to get my .02¢ in. I think the underquilt you choose isn't all that important. you're looking for something that attaches easily, is light, squishes down to nothing and prevents wind for hitting your butt.

I purchased the Warbonnet Wooki @ something like $250.00 and while it fits, it's a bit short and my feet aren't covered and freeze. It's super high quality, but it wasn't perfect.

On the flip side, I purchased my son a generic Amazon $50.00 underquilt (like this one, of many and it suited him perfect. We slept on Blood Mountain when it got down to 13° one night and we both did okay.

So look for: Coverage for your whole body, not just part of you, wind breaking ability, and some insulation ability.

I just realized that I think most things on my list are cool. I guess I'm going to say this hammock. It looks super easy and super comfortable and super awesome. And I've always wanted to have a hammock. Seriously, can you imagine? Part of me wants to set it up in my living room or something so I can watch TV or read a book whilst in a hammock!

These are all great suggestions. Probably the best in the thread. Each of these items takes up little space, is very useful and could save someone's life. A compass and Lifestraw stay in my pack for all adventures. They always get used.

A nice throw blanket, or parachute hammock are also great ideas.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GCKAM7W?psc=1
http://www.coalatree.com/home/153/kachula-blanket-v1

You don't need everything at once. It can get pricey and if you don't know for sure that you will like an all-nighter in a hammock I wouldn't go too crazy to start.

You won’t need a mummy sleeping bag if you get an UQ. It’s more of a pain to get in and out with a sleeping bag anyway. No pics right now but this is what I have. I live in Texas so it isn’t cold all the time but I travel to surrounding states to go climbing and hiking and it has all kept me dry, bug free, and toasty down into the 30’s. I’m cheap and haven’t gone with the top name brands but this setup works perfectly for my needs. It wasn’t all bought at once and some stuff you could choose to go even cheaper and DIY. Spent less than $250.

•Grand Truck Ultra-Light Hammock-$20 amazon http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Royal/dp/B001AIBJNS/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1406917536&sr=1-1&keywords=grand+trunk+ultralight+hammock

•Grand Trunk Hammock Mozzy Netting-$50 amazon. Price is higher now. I prefer this one over others because it has a floor. So much easier to get in and out without bugs slipping in. And a place for you’re your shoes, pack, whatever, on the ground without creepy crawlies climbing in. Worth the added weight to me. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005TOR6RW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

•3 Season Jarbidge Underquilt – Pd $100 KAQ Arrowhead Equipment, sale right now for $75

•Marlin Spike Hitch Whoopie Sling Kit (toggles, slings, straps)-pd $20, Arrowhead Equipment , sale right now for $15

•Just bought ridgeline today when buying another whoopie sling kit for my other hammock and water filters from their sale. If you get the kit, you can get a ridgeline for an additional $10

•For cooler nights, Texsport Fleece Sleeping bag-$10 Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001916XG4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

•Plain blue tarp- maybe $10? Almost never use unless rain is anticipated.

I can't speak for this particular tent but I have spent my fair share of time in cheap tents... Here is all I can say...

You get what you pay for. A cheap tent will be too hot, or too cold. A cheap tent will leak. A cheap tent will tear. A cheap tent will not hold up....

If you plan on doing this 3 day trip and that is it, I would say go for it. If you don't mind a little discomfort, just get the cheap tent. If you plan on camping/backpacking a few times a year, bite the bullet and get a nicer tent. Budget camping can be tough, but you have a few alternative solutions...

Hammocks: Camping hammocks seem to have grown in popularity over the past few years. They are excellent in warm weather. Hammocks will feel very cold very quickly if the temperatures drop. There is no insulation beneath you without adding it yourself. They can be a little bit cheaper than tents, but they can get pricey quick if you get the tarp, bug net, blankets, pillows, etc... Eno is the most popular brand, but consider cheaper alternatives such as Grand Trunk.. I have this particular hammock and it has served me well.

REI outlet (or other online stores): The REI website has a portion dedicated to gear that is last years model and simply needs to be sold. I have seen $300 tents drop as low as $150. Keep an eye out for a great deal on new gear!

REI Scratch and Dent Sale: From time to time, REI will do a giant sale on gear that has been returned. While some gear may actually have a defect, the generous return policy of REI allows customers to abuse the company. It is said that some customers think that REI stands for "Rent-Every-Item." During these sales, items will drop in price anywhere from 30-70 percent off retail value. Consider an REI membership and participate in sales.

Roughing it: I am not sure about the campsites you will visit or the weather you are to expect. If it is warm and dry, a quilt on the ground, a pillow, and a light blanket can suffice... Once again, this is very conditional and not advised in adverse weather or climates....

Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock - 12oz, $20

Outdoor Products Tarp - 20 oz $50, or 35 oz $60 for the bigger version

Sleeping Bag - 27 oz 55F $40

pillow - $30 3oz


I'd start out with this setup, plus some paracord and two to four tent stakes for securing the tarp.

If it's hot enough I'd ditch the sleeping bag for a silk sleeping bag liner. If it's cold enough I'd use a bag with a lower temp rating.

If I think bugs will be an issue I'd add an eno bug net

If you're not a hammock guy or think finding trees will be an issue whhere you're going I'd look into something like a eureka solitaire, but you'll want to add an air mattress when sleeping on the ground. The mattress can be used in the hammock too, it adds a lot of warmth in cooler weather.

Lastly, don't be afraid to utilize your environment. I've slept in all sorts of improvised shelters. In fact on my last tour I didn't bring a tent or hammock, just a bivy, sleeping bag, mattress and pillow. I knew spots along my route like churches and parks that had covered areas where I could sleep, so I used those to save on my gear weight. I've slept in caves too. One time I slept in an abandoned school bus. Using spots like this can make your nights more comfortable and save you the hassle of setting up a tent that evening.

First off, you two rock seriously. I am amazed by the generosity, and wish I had the means to do the same. Just know, even if its not me thats selected, the gratitude and appreciation is there.

That being said. The item that I want/need that is on my WL is this here (Its in my random stuff list, first page): http://www.amazon.com/Competitor-729-Olympic-Weight-Bench/dp/B00245LJX6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=GZ23EIUTDBK0&coliid=I1BHEALAEBYP80 I have finally cleared out the space in my spare room and will be turning it into a workout room. I really want to, and need to get healthy. This is part of my plan to do so.

And onto part two (its in my camping gear list).... C'mon...gimmie.
http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3MBIYM75BTZOF&coliid=I1457MYHZJCKIR&psc=1

And last but not least...while I can not see what you two look like at this current moment, your beautiful souls are shining through and making you two look amazing, seriously.

I'm at work so I don't have photos of my stuff. But here is the list of the basics. The stuff below, plus food, and a change of clothes will get me through a long weekend and on top of some nice terrain. I include my sock liner/sock combo below because I am so damn happy with them (and not expensive).

• Black Diamond Infinity 60 pack
  
  
• Surplus Military Woodland Cammo Bivy Cover
  
  
• A 40° Slumberjack Sleeping bag and a 20° Slumberjack sleeping bag that can nest to be a 0° sleeping bag (Not sure which model... they are about 10 years old).
  
  
• Yukon Outfitters Parachute hammock with net
  
  
• 2 Sierra Cups and a spoon from when I was a Boy Scout over 30 years ago.
  
  
• Whisperlite MSR stove
  
  
• Wigwam Ultimax Sock Liners with Merino Wool Socks
  
  
• Frog Toggs Rain suit
  
  
• Estwing Hatchet (If needed. If I am going distances, I don't take the weight, but it is an amazing tool for the size/weight/practicality)
  
  
• Leatherman PST
  
  
• Cheap walking sticks from wal-mart
  
  
• 2 Nalgene Water Bottles
  
  
• A Fly from my old Kelty 2 person tent.
  
  
• Some cheap Chinese made waterproof hiking boots that I got at Wal-Mart and have been unstoppable.
  
  
• A pump style water filter Mine isn't MSR, but it looks like this.
  
  
• Coleman Chilko River Parka for my outer shell, various synthetic fleece and wool layers for my inner layers. A dry fit long or short sleeve synthetic shirt for my wicking layer. I have gone down to single digit camping in that without a bulky coat.
  
  
• Energizer headlamp (AAA batteries!)
  
  
• 100 feet of this orange reflective cord
  
  
• A very comprehensive first aid kit I have assembled over the years to deal with everything from cuts and scrapes up to broken limbs and serious bleeding. (Sam Splint, Quick Clot, Homemade Cravats sealed in vacuum packs, trauma shears, various OTC medications, epi-pen). It is a little heavy, so I have various sizes I bring depending on the duration of the trip, my traveling companions (usually Boy Scouts) and our distance from help.
  
  
• A Yaesu VX8R Radio I'm a HAM and it is a great emergency radio.
  
  
• Garmin eTrex 20 GPS (AA Batteries!)
  
  I am pretty frugal so I don't have top tier stuff, but if I spent 10x more I might save 2-3 pounds... easier for me to put down the spoon and lose that much weight from the engine (me). I mostly go with the Boy Scouts as an Assistant Scoutmaster, so I don't do much "extreme" stuff. We mostly do 10-20 mile hikes in New England (4000' peaks with cold, wet, unpredictable weather).
  
  

I have a Grand Trunk Brand Hammock that looks and feels just like the expensive Eno hammocks, but i got it off Amazon for $19.99. It doesn't come with straps, but I found an awesome set of straps for $4.99 on Amazon as well. If you are interested, let me know and I will send you the links!
Edit: spelling, and heres the link for the hammock: Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock (Forest Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_VHywxbV0QYDTV

For an underquilt I got a Snugpak for $57 . You could definitely go a bit cheaper, but it has pretty good reviews on Amazon.

On top, I use a sleeping bag since I don't always use my hammock. It's my only really nice piece of gear. I was lucky enough to score a 20 degree bag from Mountain Hardware for $50 at the employee store since my relative works for them.

The Wise owl ultralight is $37.99. The hammock is small and with the suspension weighs 13oz. The straps and carabiners are on the heavy side.

The hummingbird hammock single is a little bit smaller and lighter at 5.2 oz for the hammock and 1.55 oz for the straps, but more expensive.

The outdoor vitals ultralight is a similar size but the hammock is made from a heavier and stronger fabric than the other two. Comes in the middle price wise and weighs 14oz total.

The grand trunk nano 7 comes in 7.4 oz but doesn’t include the straps.

All of these I would consider travel hammocks in the ~9’x4’ range and ~5-8 oz weight for just the hammock. They’re nice for chillin. They wouldn’t really be great to sleep in but it’s possible.

I'm a big hammock fan, so I'm sorry if I get long winded. Been through a few hammocks in search of perfection (never worn one out). I started with this one, have the most experience with this one, most recently started using this one. Used hammocks to cover the south half of Wisconsin's state parks in 2013 on a CB750 wearing this backpack.

Finding trees the right distance was (impressively) never a problem for me. I've been thinking there should be a way to hang one side on the motorcycle should the need arise, but haven't yet had to test it. I'd really like to be able to hang from the motorcycle on one side and the frame on that pack on the other side, but don't know if the pack will support a person (hasn't been warm enough to test since I thought of this).

In terms of rain, I started with a generic big blue tarp from a hardware store. This was a bad idea, thing was bulky, loud, and inflexible to the point of being hard to work with. Now I use this and it does the job pretty well. I used a large size of this tarp for a while, but the one I got was too big and ultimately heavier than needed.

I'm sorry to bust your bubble, but hammocks can get cold at night. I used this sleeping pad, after a while added this to keep the shoulders warm. Sleeping on what feels like a massively oversized menstrual pad never felt right, plus they get a little awkward in a hammock. Everybody I've heard from recommends underquilts for proper insulation, and it took me until this year to bite the bullet and get one (they're not cheap). I just got this yesterday, and intend to test it tomorrow night.

This book has been widely recommended. I haven't read it yet, but at $4 for kindle, that's not a bad price. You can read it on a smartphone or computer with the kindle app (which is free).

It wasn't until I typed this all out that I realized how much money I probably spent on all this stuff. I didn't buy it all from Amazon, just convenient links.

I have gotten this particular hammock for several friends and they have all LOVED it. Affordable, light-weight, packs easy, all the hardware that you need is included, and durable as hell. It's great getting pics from my friends in this hammock, in different spots around the world. ...and I feel like I have to say it... I do NOT work for this company in any way whatsoever... just passing along a gift idea that has worked well for me.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GCKAPLK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1491976966&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=hammock&th=1&psc=1

I have a Grand Trunk Ultralight. It was only 20 bucks on Amazon and pretty decent quality, so definitely worth it for the price. You might need to replace (or simply remove) the metal hooks, they are just pointless weight. It is on the shorter side as hammocks go, but it's a great hammock to always carry in a backpack just in case you find a fun spot. As others have said, if you want something much better for not much more money, then look into Dutchware or other higher quality brands.

Thanks for the kind words /u/EatMoarToads. Enjoy your time on the Appalachian Trail! Its a beautiful area and I'm sure you'll have a great time.

I'm sure you are thoroughly prepping for the trip, but my 1 suggestion for hikers is always to look into hiking covered hammocks rather than having to bring a tent/pad/etc. This one is inexpensive and has pretty good reviews on Amazon... but there are a LOT of options out there

We'll be here arguing and speculating over Tesla whenever you get back :)

check out /r/hammockcamping

I am in a similar position as you so I can't really claim to be an expert, but from what i have read:

you need something under the hammock or between you and the bottom of the hammock. you have 2 options. option 1 is a sleeping pad. you may have one from your camping days so that would be cheap as in free. or you can go with an underquilt. which is kinda like a sleeping bag that goes under your hammock. I recently bought this one supposedly good down to 5C. hoping to get a chance to test it out in my garage this weekend.

> The first one he linked is 8 feet long.

>DIMENSIONS - Hammock 8ft 91in/230cm (Long) x 2.8ft 33.5in/85cm (Wide)

That's not a hammock, that's a bodybag lol.

I'm 190cm and previously had a 2.7m DD hammock which was definitely too small for me to sleep in comfort. My new Dutchware 3.3m is way better (but also more expensive).

Depending on your height I don't see why you wouldn't be comfortable in something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Winner-Outfitters-Double-Camping-Hammock/dp/B01GCKATD4/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1500568695&sr=1-3&keywords=camping+hammock

(literally the top result on amazon)

It won't be the absolute lightest, most high-tech, durable, easy-to-set-up hammock, but then again: it's not expensive and I doubt it will be 4x as uncomfortable as a 100 dollar hammock.


The ones /u/tikker_g mentions are all well-respected brands, but if you're just getting into hammocking I think a cheap & cheerful hammock is a better way to start. You may find you don't like it, or can't sleep in a hammock.


EDIT: this one combined with their tarp also looks pretty decent if you're under 1.75m or so:

https://www.amazon.com/Eclypse-Camping-Hammock-Professional-Strength/dp/B017QV411Y/ref=pd_sbs_468_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B017QV411Y&pd_rd_r=HTR7HVFYYQ3HD6NGPPMM&pd_rd_w=u0zLP&pd_rd_wg=PN63D&psc=1&refRID=HTR7HVFYYQ3HD6NGPPMM

As /u/lordnecro states, it really depends on where you are and what you're looking for. Looking for agates on the shores of the Great Lakes? A windbreaker with pockets will do ya! Chiselling material out of hard rock? A bit more equipment-intensive.

Proper outdoors gear is indispensible -- water, snacks, first aid, sunblock, bugspray, etc. Clothing-wise, I go with jeans, a lightweight hiking shirt with roll-able long sleeves, and a broad-brimmed Tilley hat. Square scarf to keep the sun and bugs off or to keep warm. Vest with lots of pockets is a plus/minus.

In terms of tools, I generally make do with a mid-sized Estwing rock hammer (in its kick-ass holster, obviously!), a gardening trowel, and a chisel or shovel depending on what sort of material I expect to be looking through. A gardening kneelboard is great for sitting on when the ground's muddy or rocky. I picked up a pair of rubberized gloves from Home Depot that have served me pretty well. A bucket is good for hauling gear in and medium sized specimens out. A ziplock bag, possibly cushioned with paper towels and kept in a shirt pocket, keeps small specimens together.

Miscellaneous: Magnifying glass/loupe, pocket knife, streak plate for field ID. Redline pocket flashlight. Blacklight or radiation detector if required for specific targets. And a hammock is critical for the mid-afternoon siesta!

Here's a link where I tried my best to give directions to the rope swing. Just explore it.

Also, just my 2 cents, but don't buy an ENO. They're trendy and what not, but they're really over priced and, if you plan on using it for camping or backpacking, not a great option. Head over to /r/hammocks and search around.

I've had an ENO for 2 years and it's too frayed now for me to feel comfortable in it. I treated it as nice as you can treat a piece of outdoor equipment. This is much cheaper and supposed to hold up much better.

OK! I found other awesome stuff!

Another butt stock holder for a riffle

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B001F0GF58/ref=mp_s_a_1_63?qid=1427648441&sr=8-63&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=hunting&dpPl=1&dpID=41hAOujc2sL&ref=plSrch

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http://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B001AIHB76/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1427649115&sr=8-2&keywords=hammock&dpPl=1&dpID=41WSWpSPuqL&ref=plSrch&pi=SY200_QL40

Those hammocks are awesome! He can relax while he waits for deer or whenever he wants!

Edit: changed hammock link for prime one

ENO makes nice hammocks but do yourself a favor and grab a longer hammock. Look at any forum and you'll find people raving about how comfy 11' hammocks are. Dutchware is a popular option. A single layer w/whoopie hook suspension and webbing is only about $10 more than the ENO + straps, and much lighter (17.7oz vs 35oz).



For insulation you can use and old sleeping bag as a top quilt. For bottom I've heard good things about the Snugpack Under Blanket.

Might get you down to 30°F but should be enough to keep you warm down to the 40-50s.

The Grand Trunk hammocks are pretty good I think. Pretty cheap too and great warranty service.

http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375726639&sr=8-1&keywords=hammock

I've got a traditional Pawley's Island rope hammock for backyard use, but after getting a Hennessey Hammock for camping I don't even bother with the rope one anymore. Even in the backyard, the Hennessey is so quick to set up, and unlike the rope one, doesn't leave red rope pressure impressions on my calves. With the Hennessy you've got rain and mosquito protection if you want it, but you don't have to get in it if you don't want to. You can just flip it over and use it like a regular lay on top or sit on top hammock/ chair sling if you desire. It's too long to fit in a standard metal hammock cradle, though, if that's important to you.

yeah, if you're not even sure you'll like sleeping in a hammock, a cheap one is the way to go- I have this $19 Grand Trunk Hammock

http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76

though it doesn't come with a suspension. A quick way to make one is to get ~16 feet of 1" nylon webbing, cut it into 2 pieces, tie loops at the ends with overhand knots, then on each tree, loop one end through the other end (of the same length of webbing), then hook the metal loop of the GT ultralight to the end of the webbing reaching from the tree. then do the same with the other 8 foot length on the opposite tree.

if you can get even a half-decent night of sleep in that (provided you are warm enough, etc- summer is the best time to try it out), you will probably love sleeping in a hammock while camping.

It's not technically a hammock it's a Tentsile Stingray, which is like a 'tree tent'.

I bought a hammock for camping, it's awesome. I get uncomfortable in tents because they are hot and stuffy to me. Because I camped in a place that didn't really have flying bugs, I just set up my hammock, and got in with my sleeping bag, and fell asleep with a view of the stars. Pretty cool and super comfy. I think the hammock was like $25 too.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G3ZURYU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

hammocks are actually amazing for your back! if you want to learn more I highly suggest going to /r/hammocks. Very friendly and active subreddit. If I were to suggest a cheap, easy, foolproof set up. i'd do this. Hammock, Straps, people may say go with the kammok roo python straps, but some parks are super choosy on what can be hung on their trees. And heres a tarp that regularly gets down to $20 on woot.com.

I would recommend trying to get them on amazon if you haven't already. I purchased this one a while back and love it http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001AIBJNS/ref=aw_d_var_2nd_sporting-goods_img?vs=1
But I did have to pay another $15-$20 for the straps. Best of luck to you and your business!

IDK What sort of weather you'll be camping/hiking in, but this is a pretty basic list of gear that I would take if I were on a budget:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JYHI24/?tag=ultrastuff-20

http://www.amazon.com/Suisse-Sport-Adventurer-Ultra-Compactable-Sleeping/dp/B001TR7QZA/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1408072994&sr=1-3&keywords=ultralight

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FB7XYXM/?tag=ultrastuff-20

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002COCF3M/?tag=ultrastuff-20

That's a bag, tarp, hammock and sleeping bag. They all have great ratings and should get you through just about anything.

Me, personally, I carry my hammock, a wool blanket and my tarp from http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/ ( http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/Coyote-Tarp-10x10-tarp-10x10-coyote.htm ) in my army surplus bag. I also carry my stainless steel pot and cup, cordage, zip ties, leather gloves, folding saw, axe and knife with me when I'm out in the woods. I have a "space blanket" too.

My pack could be lighter for sure, but everything I have serves a purpose.

Whenever you decided you want to get into campinp/hiking/bushcraft/whatever, decided what you really need/want to have with you. Don't just jam random "camping" supplies in your bag. Take your time, research and pack carefully. Your back will thank you.

There are a couple economical underquilt options out there. Snugpack's Underblanket is one. The lead time is a bit rough. I have their Jungle Blanket for top insulation and the workmanship is pretty good.


If you're handy and have access to a sewing machine, you could always make your own. I've made a couple PLUQ's, suggested by a few others, and they work great.

Another option is modifying old sleeping bags. Clearance sections can be your friend. :)
Edit: Hyperlink fail.

It all really depends on what level of comfort you want/need. Like any type of outdoor gear, you can spend stupid amounts of money. This one seems really well reviewed and is very inexpensive. Plus it's lighter than even the lightest, most expensive tents.

It wouldn't work for winter camping, but you could buy some netting and something like this and have a really nice set-up for less than $100. Heck, even a tarp and rope could make a serviceable rain fly. It might not pack up really small for the bike, but it's better than nothing.

My favorite thing about spring is just being able to be outside again! I'm an avid rock climber, hiker, and rafter, so I just want to be able to enjoy those things again! I feel like this would really help me out this spring

For that price I would go with This

Grand Trunk is a well known company that has a great reputation. Also, once you factor in shipping, it's actually a couple bucks cheaper. Both of them have pretty lackluster hanging solutions, so you will probably want to pick up something different for either of them.

Looks like a great casual hammock. I might go with something a little more durable/wider if you are planning on sleeping in it. Grand trunk sells something similar...I've used Grand Trunk's and if it is similar, you'll only find this fun for shorter periods of time (not a camping trip for instance).

1. The perfect bed.
   
2. Bedtime snack
   
3. Jammies
   
4. Scared of the dark
   
5. Goodnight, baby.
   
   Bonus: I don't know, an ephelant.
   
   “She used to say she could taste sleep and that it was as delicious as a BLT on fresh French bread.”

you're competing against this at $20, so a $30 hammock would be pretty reasonable.

No way I would buy for $50 when I can get the aforementioned product for less than half the price.

edit: The camping/backpacking crowd might give you some great support if you can get a good price/weight value.

• The Yukon Outfitters tarp is normally $40 on Amazon. I bought two when they happened to be on Woot for $20. Good deal at $40, and a steal at $20. I use them as loaner tarps, and they work well.
  http://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Outfitters-MG-rainfly1-Hammock-Black/dp/B00EUHZ74I
  
  
• UST Hex Tarp is smaller than I would want, but it has been used by some hammockers. $30 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G2TXJ7O
  
  
• DIYing a polycro, tyvek, or dropcloth tarp has been done before for cheap. Search Hammockforums.
  
  
• Also, hardware store blue tarps have been used by many with price concerns.
  
  Good luck!

may I recommend getting a hammock like an ENO double nest. more comfortable than my bed, packs down small and light and its great for naps or reading a book in the park. only caveat is that you have to plan where you're sleeping with places that have trees.

I got a Honest Outfitters "Camping Hammock" and I love it. It's the same style as an ENO(I think it's either an ENO knockoff or an ENO rebrand) and for $30 you get the hammock and the straps. Great beginner hammock. https://www.amazon.com/Outfitters-Camping-Portable-Parachute-Backpacking/dp/B01LTEPYC4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502330785&sr=8-1&keywords=honest+outfitters+hammock

A lot of people are suggesting Bear Butt, which is a great brand with the BEST return policies. For about $28 on amazon however, you can get the same hammock with straps from honest outfitters.

I was skeptical because of how dirt cheap it was, but after ordering one as a back-up hammock, I've decided this is probably the best deal.

(If you someday decide you want to camp outside in your hammock though, Warbonnet's blackbird is the way to go)

Check into Hennessy Hammocks. They're well built. I use an ENO but several friends have Hennessy and love them.

Here's one for reference
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0011KZREC/ref=redir_mdp_mobile

I don't think the hammocks are provided, but there are thousands of them. I'd definitely recommend getting one of your own. It looks like the price has gone up since I bought it (about $50) and don't forget the straps!

I own 2 Grand Trunk hammocks. They are fairly light and I love them. They are $15 on Amazon US right now. I'm 5' 11" 245 lbs and they are tall enough for me. You might find them on Amazon UK.

I've used them to 0 Celsius and been down right warm. I used two cheap sleeping bags at that temperature (1 under).

Here it is:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001AIBJNS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1449115851&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=grand+trunk+ultralight+hammock&dpPl=1&dpID=41QIIVsUVlL&ref=plSrch

I'm the same height and pretty much the same weight as you. I recently purchased a Winner Outdoors Hammock and couldn't be happier for the price. I bought it 2 months ago and have used it twice to camp with.

My only issue is that I'm new to hammock camping and I wake up far too much in the night, so it's not as good of a night's sleep than my tent. I'm hoping that'll change.

Good luck!

If you can get it to work then all the power to you. I just haven't had luck.

As far as rainfly and the elements I never had an issue when using a tarp and I've camped in some pretty wicked weather. You just have to make sure your coverage is very tight to the hammock and goes down far enough. I'm current using this rainfly it is often featured on woot for $25. I've had very good luck with it so far.

This is another budget UQ from Amazon. The reviews are decent, and I'm considering getting one until I save up for my dream UQ.

Like /r/AtomMass, I don't like spending money on the cheapo version when I still plan to buy a better one later, but if I have this second UQ it would mean I have a full backup setup for an unequipped friend.

I sleep in my Vivere Double all the time. I keep my house cold, so I made a lightweight underquilt from a down blanket and safety-pinned that to the underside, and then put this underquilt over that for the winter. It will come off for the summer. I sleep with a nice down-alternative comforter in a duvet on top. I vaccuum the hammock on the regular, and wash every six weeks or so. Very comfy.

I'm working on an improved method of attaching the home-made underquilt. If you sleep hot, you'll need less bundling than I do and can probably get away with just the snugpak.

I ended up using and keeping:

Hammock Bliss No-See-Um No More - The Ultimate Bug Free Camping Hammock - 100" / 250 cm Rope Per Side Included - Fully Reversible - Ideal Hammock Tent For Camping, Backpacking, Kayaking & Travel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002COCF3M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_FyoZBbZ7WENFZ

And $110 for a hammock, backpack, and some paracord is a bit much.

Hammock that folds into a little backpack type thing and has ties built into it $20

+

Eagle Creek Hiking Backpack $27.50

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$47.50! You can buy one for yourself, and for your friend, and some McDonalds to eat together and still have a few pennies leftover! How nice!

But on the not being a dick side of things, cool backpack, but like most things on kickstarter, it's overpriced.

Just a heads up for those of you out there looking to buy, the same thing is on amazon for <$20 shipped:
http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332538165&sr=8-1

Not a thread crap, just a heads up. I know lots of those interested in Hammocks will have REI gift cards or something to make the deal worth it. (I checked the dimensions, they're the same)

I've got the ultralight as a "starter" hammock (it's on a stand in my living room), It's not bad at all.

I bought the green Yukon outfitters hammock when it was on sale at Woot! It was like $25 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BBY371S/ref=twister_B00MAUNB2M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I also bought a Yukon outfitters rainfly (black) for $20 on sale at Woot! and swapped out the orange reflective paracord with black paracord. It blends nicely with the woods (well, over other colors atleast).

The bug net works great (kept me from the horde of mosquitoes in the Florida summer) and you can use grommets to make your own ridgeline so you can have a handgun setup at the ready inside your tent. I'm 200 lbs 6'2" and I drunkenly fell backwards onto the net and it somehow didn't tear at all after 20 seconds of trying to flip back. It's not a double but if you're hunting I'm going to assume you'll be so tired it probably won't matter.

Hammock! The best way to relax in the forest! Weekend 1!! <3

Purchases so far:

• Esbit stove. Haven't had a chance to use it yet.
  
  
• Solar 5 Battery/Charger First use last weekend. Really love it so far.
  
  
• LMF "Spork"
  
  On the to-buy list, I'm hoping to get into ultralight + hammock camping for the summer:
  
  
• Exos 48 Pack
  
  
• Hennessy Hammock Expedition
  
  Also do you guys have any recommendations for a warm-weather sleeping bag? I live in GA so past April, the lows only get into the 60-70 range on a "cold" night. I'm almost leaning towards Hammock + just a warm camp blanket. Any thoughts?

Winner Outfitters Double Camping Hammock - Lightweight Nylon Portable Hammock, Best Parachute Double Hammock For Backpacking, Camping, Travel, Beach, Yard. 118"(L) x 78"(W) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GCKAM7W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_3nStzb5GHPCC3

Winner Outfitters Double Camping Hammock - Lightweight Nylon Portable Hammock, Best Parachute Double Hammock For Backpacking, Camping, Travel, Beach, Yard. 118"(L) x 78"(W), Sky Blue/Blue Color https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GCKAPLK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_IHlDCb7JPK9HM

I own and love my "winner outfitters" double. I bought the straps as well.. TBH I can't imagine using it without the straps. Seems like a total pain in the butt without them. here it is on amazon

Sure! Here ya go:

Tent - Decathalon 2 Second 2 Person https://www.decathlon.com/collections/camping-tents/products/camping-tent-2-person-2-seconds-fresh-and-black?variantid=%2479.99

Sleeping Pad - TETON Sports Outfitter XXL Camp Pad; Lightweight Foam Sleeping Pad https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000P6DJ8O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7-D4Cb59KHGEE

Sleeping Bag - TETON Sports Celsius XXL Sleeping... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F36TM0?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Fan - O2 Cool Battery Powered Fan Battery or 9V powered (no included plug) https://www.walmart.com/ip/O2COOL-10-inch-Battery-or-Electric-Portable-Fan/49332866

Hammock - ENO - Eagles Nest Outfitters DoubleNest Hammock, Portable Hammock for Two, Red/Charcoal https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DDPGNO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6cE4Cb7424XT2

Hammock Straps - ENO - Eagles Nest Outfitters Atlas Chroma Hammock Straps, Suspension System, Red/Charcoal https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TQZGV2Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MdE4CbCGMSQFX

Rubbermaid Box - https://www.walmart.com/ip/8-Gal-Action-Packer/689561395

Here's a [link](Winner Outfitters Double Camping Hammock - Lightweight Nylon Portable Hammock, Best Parachute Double Hammock For Backpacking, Camping, Travel, Beach, Yard. 118"(L) x 78"(W) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GCKAM7W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_V3BtybTXNQRXD) for one I just purchased a few days ago. Haven't got it yet, but looks pretty solid.

https://www.amazon.com/HONEST-OUTFITTERS-Portable-Parachute-Backpacking/dp/B01LTEPYC4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=32IATN4HFN8DB&keywords=honest+outfitters+hammock&qid=1563054960&s=gateway&sprefix=honest+outfi%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-3

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I have one of these (double size) and I fall asleep in it nearly every time I get it in it. I'm talking in the daytime when I'm not even sleepy. I'm currently working on space to set it up inside my house and sleep in it some. Make sure you lay at an angle in it. That's the most comfortable way for many people.

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I like the version with the tree straps. Very convenient for setting up.

Im assuming you mean this, you'd probably be very happy. One of my friends has one of those and I took a nice nap in it and it was well, pretty nice. Nothing spectacular but a solid choice.

Since you seem to be just starting out in hammocks i'd try a Dutch 11ft Wide hammock and try a Snugpack underquilt. I'd choose these as the Dutchware is the biggest hammock i know being sold today and is a high quality hammock especially for the price. The snugpack is my pick for a first time hammocker its just $40, so it won't break the bank but gets you a good tho heavy 3 season quilt. The snug pak likely won't cover all of you, so a small butt pad can be used effectively under your feet with a pillow under your head to give you full coverage.

You can get a Yukon Outfitter hammock with bug net built-in (if you don't want it just flip the hammock over) for around $40-50s: https://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Outfitters-Mosquito-Hammock/dp/B00BBY371S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468441131&sr=8-1&keywords=yukon+outfitters+hammock

You'll want a hammock tree strap which is REALLY handy. You won't need to do any knots or anything and it stays on there merely by tension with just one wraparound of the tree, and you won't need to worry about it not being sturdy enough compared to a cord. They're cheap, $8 dollars: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X2B14UO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then you can get a tarp around 10x10 feet for also around $30 (you might already have one since that's universal to tents and hammock). You don't need a heavy duty one, it's hanging in the air above your hammock barely coming into contact with anything, the one you linked in another comment looks heavy. You do want a big one in case of rain, so you'll have enough coverage b oth for your hammock and your gear. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AXV8VLU/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_10?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1EF9OE38VX40W

Like isogreen42 said, just sleeping in a sleeping bag in a hammock will mean that you will quash the bottom of the sleeping bag, compressing the material and nullify the insulation, so you'll want an underquilt. You could just use an ultralight sleeping bag or a jungle blanket, and tie the 4 ends to a tree or the line from the hammock. I don't have a link for this one, I'm assuming you already have an ultralight sleeping bag. If you don't, any one you find on Amazon will do. I think I got mine around $15-30.

And then you'll be warm (unless it's down in the 30-40s) and you can just use another ultralight sleeping bag or jungle blanket as the top quilt / actual blanket. Again, $20-30s: https://www.amazon.com/SnugPak-92248-Snugpak-Jungle-Blanket/dp/B00CJFOAZK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468441187&sr=8-1&keywords=jungle+blanket

And then you should be set! So you're looking at...around $130? Not too bad for an experiment.

Recently got into hammocking, and I had purchased this one. You can get a single or double, plus they are relatively cheaper than the popular high-end brand name ones that's (imo) not needed for just casual hanging.

Edit: Forgot to mention that it comes with straps, as opposed to rope, which is easier to hang for a beginner. Also, there are a variety of colors to choose from and the reviews aren't bad either!

MOLLE is too tacticool for my liking. In any real survival scenario you would stick out like a military nut. It also adds a decent amount of weight to a pack. IMO you are better off with either a hiking pack if you're in the woods, or a standard Jansport/LL Bean Backpack if you are in the city.

That being said, if the contents are decent quality, this is a better price than you could do individually. For instance, this includes a hammock and rainfly. A yukon hammock on Amazon is $40 shipped, and the rainfly is $35 shipped. That is $75 right there, and the thing only costs $100.

I will probably pass on this though. I have most of this stuff (minus hammock) covered already.

P.S. You would think a "survival" bag would come with a fixed blade instead of a 3" folder.

Well if you think $19.99 is pretty expensive than I don't think I'm going to be of much help.

http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76

Honestly? An eno double nest seeing as I've slept in mine for the past week they are fantastic

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GCKAM7W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_NyAuAaGwTzzKW

Definitely feels a lil sketchy getting into it, but fantastic hammock for the price.

Another alternative is the grand trunk ultralight: http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Royal/dp/B001AIBJNS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1417706398&sr=8-5&keywords=hammock

It stuffs into a ball about the size of a quart.

I think a lot depends on your use. I usually set mine up at the beginning of a camp weekend, might relax in it a bit here and there, mostly my kids end up in it reading. I'd be more inclined to buy something more expensive with fly/net options if I were going to spend a significant amount of time in it though.

A hammock like this. There are lots of different positions that are great on hammocks. A simple google search can provide details much more exacting and concise than I can.

I bought this one for $20 on woot, they have deals all the time on it and its wonderful.

http://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Outfitters-MG-rainfly1-Hammock-Black/dp/B00EUHZ74I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418996273&sr=8-1&keywords=yukon+outfitters+tarp

For all the brothers talking about buying a bed: Sure, whatever. The thing is, a good cot or hammock costs less than a mediocre bed. This cot is what I sleep on for about a third of the year. It's very comfortable and actually feels longer than my standard twin bed. If you're willing to spend a bit more, a Hennessy Hammock is a good choice. They're meant for camping, but they're quite comfortable and for a poor man they'll be better than a bed stolen from a crackhouse.

Wanted to chime in and say, I'd love to see your plans, too, if you care to share with the rest of us! I thought picking up a grand trunk for $17 the other day was good (Amazon sale -- now $20), but you're putting me to shame! Paired with this compact and quite warm sleeping bag, you're off to the races.

Lightweight Hammocks are the shit. If it's nice out, you don't have to bring a tent, bedroll, sleeping bag, air mattress or any of that. You just hang your hammock, get in with a small pillow and put a blanket on top. If you're worried about rain, hang a tarp above you.

A solar powered lantern, lightweight hammock, Ultralight stove, and multi tool seems like a good start.

I wouldn't go for the Mosquito Hammocks, I tried the Expedition model out and it was a POS. It was uncomfortable and the workmanship was bad. It immediately started to fray at a poorly sewn hem along the zipper and the fraying fabric caught in the zipper. I felt the built in nylon webbing was much too tender and looked like crap in just a few uses.

I own a Hammock Bliss No-See-Um No More. I like it. I'm 6'2" and 230lbs.

I think if I was starting again I'd save up for a Warbonnet Blackbird. I have their Superfly tarp and love the craftsmanship in it. I'm saving now to pick one up.

I'm not so sure about that [Edit: I misread and though you said incredibly expensive, but here's some data anyway]. It looks like it's just steel pipes that are bent to make a tube, and then welded. You can get 240 inches of steel pipe for ~$100. Taking the diameter of the ring to be 10 feet, each ring would need 2pi10 feet (377 inches), so each ring would need 1.5 (~$150) worth of tubing. You could get 3 lengths of tube (~$300), weld them together, cut them at the correct spot, then bend them with a pipe bender. Weld the three rings together (somehow), and you have a rough prototype for the structure. Add in some smaller pieces of pipe for stability between the rings, get some S hooks, and get three hammocks for ~$60.

Total price: ~$500 with the proper equipment (pipe bender, drill, welder). You could probably whip together a pipe bender fairly easily (plywood bent into the correct shape, and some leverage points for bending the tubing).

But now, when you're done with it, you have an unstorable gigantic ring hammock. Hopefully it doesn't turn into an eye sore.

I ordered a Honest Outfitters Hammock a few weeks ago. Its still snowing here so I haven't really used it yet but looks very comparable to everything on the market and has good reviews. It comes with some straps too so its a good deal for $30

https://www.amazon.com/Outfitters-Camping-Portable-Parachute-Backpacking/dp/B01LTEPYC4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

I picked up a Hennessy hammock from amazon a few years ago when there was a good sale. I took this with me on an east to west tour across the northern states. for the first two weeks I stealth camped in the woods of nj,pa and ny, I only got caught once because a dog heard me setting up camp and brought his owner over to me. I got caught in a lot of big storms the first two weeks of june, this hammock kept me dry.

I also brought two poles and a ground tarp with me that allowed the hammock to be set up as a bivy on the ground when there weren't any posts or trees around.

When I stayed at a camp ground in Yellowstone, a couple sharing the hiking biking spot with me mentioned how stealthy it was, they said they could barely see it even though they knew it was there.

>The product must have an actual link to purchase. ಠ_ಠ

Guess I'll do it for OP. Purchase link for version shown in video. $144 on Amazon. A couple other models are on Amazon too, or I found a bunch of versions on the manufacturer website. Definitely going in my Amazon wishlist.

I'm curious to see what shows up in here (besides Hennessy and Warbonnet). I'm testing my own "ultralight, ultra-cheap" hammock setup, as I'm transitioning from tent camping and don't want to make a big splurge to find out I don't like it.

Right now, my kit consists of:

• $18 - Portable Parachute Nylon Fabric Travel Camping Hammock
  
• $22 - SOL Emergency Shelter Kit
  
• Plus a bit of paracord for a ridgeline to support the SOL tarp overhead
  
  I've used it for a few hours here and there in rain and sun and it's been great. Hoping to test my first hammock overnight soon. No bug net, obviously, but not bad for $40 and less than 2lbs.

My whole squad uses the portable nylon ones. https://smile.amazon.com/OuterEQ-Portable-Parachute-Camping-Hammock/dp/B00G3ZURYU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478273335&sr=8-1&keywords=hammock

They're cheap, pack up nice and small, and are easy to set up and take down.

There is always the Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock!! It has served me well.

Depends on the material of the footprint I would guess. I purchased a cheap [Yukon Outfitters Tarp](Yukon Outfitters Walkabout Rainfly (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EUHZ74I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7sTBCbQ0BQV7W) from Amazon and I have been very happy with it.

Sure, no problem!

My usual list...

On the rear rack, generally packed in a waterproof rollbag:

• Hammock Tent -- Hennesey Expedition A-Sym
  
  
• Quick-disconnect rope clips like this. Note that I'm light -- these won't hold you safely if you're over 200lbs..
  
  
• Sleeping bag -- I use a Suisse Sport because it was light and cheap
  
  
• mess kit, any collapsible aluminum one will do...
  
  
  I strap a waterproof backpack to the rollbag, containing:
  
  
• change of clothes per day (tshirt, jeans, underwear, socks)
  
  
• bodywash
  
  
• deodorant
  
  
• toothbrush
  
  
• small towel (a sham-wow type of towel works really well)
  
  
• food (instant noodles, crackers, kippers, trail mix, energy bars, etc... )
  
  
• dog's leash, poobags, kibble, dog hoodie (in case she gets cold)
  
  
• kindle (for reading things when I get settled for the night)
  
  
  Under the seat,
  
  
• hoodie
  
  
• riding jacket (if not wearing)
  
  
• riding gloves (if not wearing)
  
  
• rain suit (if not wearing)
  
  
• extra water
  
  
• any miscellaneous that didn't fit elsewhere...
  
  
  On the tunnel bag:
  
  
• dog harness
  
  
• dog (NOTE: dog is optional, but recommended)
  
  
  In the tunnel bag:
  
  
• Screwdriver
  
  
• 2x adjustable wrenches
  
  
• vice grip
  
  
• tire patch kit
  
  
• tire iron
  
  
• knife
  
  
• backpacking stove
  
  
• gas for above
  
  
• duct tape
  
  
• LED flashlight
  
  
• small first aid kit w/ insect repellent
  
  
• camelbak bladder for drinking
  
  
  I always bring more than that, but that's my bare minimum. On longer trips or trips that go through the night, I'll pack a gas can in case I have to go a couple of hundred miles between fill-ups.
  
  EDIT: OH GOD FORMATTING HOW DO I REDDIT WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN

This is gonna sound nuts, but get a hammock. Not the kind with two sticks, one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0042QYO9G?pc_redir=1410767820&robot_redir=1

You don't lay like the people in the picture, but on a slight 30° angle from midline. That gets you almost flat, with a slight incline on your feet and head. The science behind it is sound, and rocking yourself to sleep is amazing.

I used to toss and turn with neck and shoulder pain for 9 hours, and now I'm getting 6 hours of amazing sleep.

Not sure if this counts but I have a hammock on my Fun Things wishlist. Sleeping outside is an activity... right?

This bug net will get you going

http://sport.woot.com/offers/no-fly-zone-mosquito-net-5?ref=ref%3Dcnt_wp_3_2

I have the snugpak under blanket, I modified it by sowing down the end tabs and running shock cord through to channel locks to close up the ends. Might compromise the structure after while but it was only $50, if it lasts a few seasons I'm good. I've slept in it on 30degree nights and been toasty.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0167IYGH6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1463963578&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=snugpak+under+blanket&dpPl=1&dpID=4185rftr-CL&ref=plSrch

Total would cost you $75ish, not bad to get you out in the woods ; )

Hammocks are the best, I just bought the Hennessy expedition. http://www.amazon.com/Hennessy-Hammock-HEN-EXPED-Expedition-A-sym/dp/B0011KZREC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346379427&sr=8-1&keywords=hennessy+hammock

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Surprise me if I win?

Edit- oops sorry messed that up! link!

http://www.amazon.com/Texsport-14258-La-Paz-Hammock/dp/B000P9GZUA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404418400&sr=8-1&keywords=hammock

Hammocks will range anywhere from $50 for a basic one to $200 for the great ones. The hammocks pictured in my OP are both made by Hammock Bliss

I believe most hammocks are made from some sort of Nylon material. Mine is rated for 350lbs.

When staying overnight, I bring my tarp in my pannier's too. Check out my full setup Hammock + Tarp

You should take a look over in /r/Hammocks I discovered it one day while looking into backpacking subreddits and have been hooked ever since.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EUHZ74I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497485987&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=yukon+outfitters&dpPl=1&dpID=41vQiuwW1UL&ref=plSrch

This tarp is great for the price

Yep, I use an underquilt during the cold season. I didn't need to splurge on an underquilt that would be used indoors, so am using this one from Amazon, which is more than warm enough.

This is a spreader bar hammock not a mayan hammock most commonly seen on this subreddit. the spreader bar negates most benefits of a hammock; it makes it weigh more (4 lbs. opposed to about 2 for a mayan hammock with bug net and tarp), it will topple easily, and probably leave you with a sore back in the morning. This hammock setup also costs $140, for this price you could buy similar mayan setup like this one or choose from many other options.

Very similar hammock, cheaper with MANY more positive reviews. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G3ZURYU/ref=gno_cart_title_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3CXW7P19VWEQK

Do you one better here's a link to the amazon page |X and here's a link to the list I found out about it on |X

Have you considered buying two hammocks?

They are very portable and very comfortable.

Hammock

Underquilt

Rainfly

Would you say this is correct? Would you recommend the red/grey one for $25 and change?

Eagles Nest Outfitters Hammock that the two of you can use. Cheap, very easy to set up, and you get to be in nature!

The Snugpak underquilt is on sale with prime for $31 on amazon if you are interested. https://www.amazon.com/Snugpak-Hammock-Blanket-Travelsoft-Filling/dp/B0167IYGH6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487611727&sr=8-1&keywords=snugpak+underquilt

Well, whether you want to bring a hammock or not is up to you, but last year when we were out camping (Not at EF mind you), my girlfriend realized she forgot her hammock, so we went to an outdoor store and picked one of these up and it worked just fine for the weekend. The straps and fabric weren't as nice as the eno brand, but it served its purpose. So if you want one, there are cheaper alternatives for a one-time use!

Since it is sold out on REI, it is on Amazon for perhaps a few dollars cheaper at $19.95.

In addition, I have this hammock and as an inexperienced hammocker it is wonderful, very compact (not sure on weight but it fits in a bag that just about fits in my [small] hand). I've been using it on my back porch in the Southeast, but plan on taking it out as a sleeping apparatus as soon as I can get a reasonable shelter.

They tend to be too short and narrow. Many do not come with ridge lines and the suspensions can be less than ideal. That being said, [ I started with this one and it's ok] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002COCF3M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

Damn, good find. The pry bar and hammer seem like they could come in use.

Edit: So with the extra 20 bucks, maybe a travel hammock and rope to string up into trees?

http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1395671953&sr=1-2&keywords=hammock

I was able to get this tarp for $20 on woot, but its sold out on that site. still, its a deal on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Outfitters-Walkabout-Rainfly/dp/B00EUHZ74I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467162722&sr=8-1&keywords=yukon+outfitters+tarp

My #1 choice for budget rainfly would be the [Yukon Walkabout] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EUHZ74I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xqtFzb9KAWJ9A) it's $40 and 14 ounces, about as good as it gets for the money.

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A hammock makes everyones life better

Ty for the contest!

Nope it wasn't expensive at all! Here is one that looks like what he uses.

Do yourself a favor and grab one of these for blasting off.
Pro Mode: Mount it inside.

ENOs are overpriced. You'll get the same quality off Amazon or eBay for a LOT less:

https://www.amazon.com/Balichun-Parachute-Ultralight-Multifunctional-Backpacking/dp/B01LY91R61/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483464240&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=hammock&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/OuterEQ-Portable-Parachute-Camping-Hammock/dp/B00G3ZURYU/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1483464272&sr=8-7&keywords=hammock

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hammock-Ultra-Light-Portable-Camping-Travel-Nylon-Outdoor-Green-CAQRC-/181782829216?hash=item2a5319d8a0:g:RRwAAOSw2xRYPouG

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hammock-Person-Portable-Parachute-Nylon-Fabric-Swing-Bed-Hanging-Camping-Outdoor-/182182021850?var=&hash=item2a6ae50ada:m:mO_-0g53txFtM8YbtwcRpZQ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-Person-Travel-Outdoor-Camping-Tent-Hanging-Hammock-Bed-With-Mosquito-Net-/162227171750?hash=item25c57e31a6:g:sHYAAOSwLF1X81zC

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-Person-Travel-Outdoor-Hanging-Hammock-Bed-Camping-Tent-Mosquito-Net-W0N5-/371819878574?hash=item56923118ae:g:CXsAAOSwiONYQRbg

This would be really cool. It's green and it would get me out in nature, so it's kind of a double whammy.

I love hammocks! I use a cheap, $20 single person hammock I ordered off Amazon with some tree slings. It came with 'S' hooks, so I just replaced those with some heavy duty carabiner. It's held up just as well as my dad's $80 hammock. For mosquitoes, I use a cheap mosquito net. It doesn't work as well as his expensive mosquito cover, but his complaint is it gets too hot under it.

Just bought on of these, 45 bucks. I figure I can DIY it a bit to get it warmer and lighter.
https://www.amazon.com/Snugpak-Hammock-Blanket-Travelsoft-Filling/dp/B0167IYGH6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481755317&sr=8-1&keywords=underquilt

You want $40.00 for one, I can do it for $35.61

Backpack

Camping hammock

And the only "trade off" is that I can use my backpack for things other than carrying my hammock, and my hammock can come out of my back pack....

Anybody that wants to send these guys $40 bucks for this, send me $37.00 and I'll arrange the shipping for your new backpack and hammock.

Seriously... combining these things for personal use may be something worth trying but as a viable product this just doesn't work.

Amazon has a version for $12.38:
http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Camo-Hammock/dp/B001AIBJSI

or you can get one that is more portable for 18 bucks on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375983548&sr=8-1&keywords=hammock

You can get it on Amazon here for $153.

$16 on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001AIHB76/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1421173806&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1398450497&sr=8-2&keywords=hammock

20$ you can each carry your own

this one

instead of using the tie mechanisms that come with it, i use the slings/webbing/oval carabiners from my slackline kit.

Get this one

Hammock and Hammock Stand

Bed Frame and Mattress


Table and I stole a folding chair from my Uni to go along with the table.

A Yukon Outfitters Walkabout Rainfly, The Guild: Complete Megaset DVD, & Snow White & The Seven Dwarfs

Grand Trunk Ultralight is all I use now. Never had an issue with them and they're only around $20.

Exactly. Not light or compact (compared to other rain flys), but it gets the job done and it's cheap!

Personally I have a large 20'x12' tarp for making a big tent with multiple hammocks, a smaller 10'x12' tarp for myself, and a pair of Yukon Outfitter rain flys that I picked up when they were on sale at Woot.com.

It's this one here:
http://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Outfitters-MG-rainfly1-Hammock-Black/dp/B00EUHZ74I/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt

http://yukon-outfitters.com/en/catalog/product/walkabout_rainfly_MG-Rainfly1

http://imgur.com/KgAUFN5

Its all on you now.

What about bringing a hammock just to use as a chair? This one is 12oz - Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock

Doublenest Hammock :)

I might have problems.

you know what, i think its actually a single? it's this one. i was going to buy a double but i think i changed my mind at the last minute

I just got this in the mail yesterday. First hammock, I'll let you know how it goes.

Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock. I just bought one in Hawaiian floral. $20-$30.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B0167IYGH6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502935242&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=snugpak+under+blanket&dpPl=1&dpID=41Cv7gj2HZL&ref=plSrch

Why not this one instead? http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001AIHB76/

cheaper and lighter.

It's on Amazon. Not sure about the stand though.

just going to leave this here...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001DDPGNO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1464456862&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=eno+doublenest+hammock&dpPl=1&dpID=41kM77k5PQL&ref=plSrch

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00WFH3TIG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1464456942&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=hammock+stand+portable&dpPl=1&dpID=31-UR-NVN2L&ref=plSrch

http://www.amazon.com/Eagles-Nest-Outfitters-DoubleNest-Charcoal/dp/B001DDPGNO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381630413&sr=8-1&keywords=eno+hammock

Here is the base hammock. Unfortunately you have to buy the bug net and tarp separately, but they all compact so small that it barely takes up any space in my bag.


http://www.amazon.com/Eagles-Nest-Outfitters-Guardian-Bug/dp/B007L1HNH4/ref=pd_sim_sg_6

And here is the listing for the net

Not sure what kind of knife you have but here's what I'd do:

SHELTER:

If you are bushcrafting it, then move on. If not, at least a tarp. A cheap plastic one from a big box store will do ($10). Shit, if you're bushcrafting it you should be good with just the knife and a bowl to eat from.

SLEEPING:

Grand Trunk Ultra Light. And just bring a blanket from home if it is going to be cold. I like hammocks because fuck sleeping on the ground for more than a night.

PACK:

Just wrap everything up in the tarp and make a shoulder sling with some paracord. You did budget for some paracord right?

COOKING/FIRE:

Buy a stainless dog bowl from a dollar store along with a cheap lighter.

Other than that, I'd say go thrift shopping. For $50 you could buy a pack, blanket, food bowl, and a water container at least with money to spare for your meal budget and that book you've been eyeing for a trail read. You won't look sexy, but you'll have your bases covered.

Oh, and buy a bandana. Single most useful piece of gear ever.

I saved on the underquilt by going with Snugpack, which makes a huge difference for hammock ass when the overnight lows drop. The Blackbird has an integrated layer underneath for a sleeping pad, but I prefer to just use the Jungle Blanket because I don't like the added stiffness of a pad.

http://www.amazon.com/Snugpak-Hammock-Blanket-Travelsoft-Filling/dp/B0167IYGH6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01

I got this one a while back from Amazon. It's out of stock right now but you may find it elsewhere. I have only used it to check it out for about 30 minutes right after I got it. Haven't had the opportunity to sleep with it overnight so I can't give a good review.

For training against those darn brits, this will help us with unarmed combat training. Once through with that training, we'll need something to help with the glare while we're outside. These glasses should do the trick - durable and don't fog. If we're forced away from our home for long periods of time, every soldier should have one of these hammocks in their backpacks to sleep in/on. We'll teach those brits that they'll never take our freedom!

I bought the OuterEQ one on Amazon and I love it. I picked it up when it was on sale for $16.79. For that price, I figured why the hell not. I've spent that much on far worse things.

I bought them both from Amazon

I use this hammock, though I also used this one for a couple months with no problem (just wanted something wider)


And this stand.

This is the type hammock I want to use. http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Royal/dp/B001AIBJNS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449961993&sr=8-1&keywords=hammock&refinements=p_89%3AGrand+Trunk

$30 ($15 per hammock) is a hell of a lot cheaper than $600 for the clark double hammock.

I started out with this one. It is dirt cheap and does the job for hanging out but is too short and uncomfortable for sleeping in.
I then got a hammock from Dutch and it is so much better! You will need a suspension system anyway so why not just get everything at the same place...