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I got into hammocking for camping/backpacking trips, and found it so comfortable I ended up hanging a hammock in my bedroom. Now I pretty much only use my bed to fold clothes... At home I sleep in a 12 foot hammock I made out of wide 1.6 Hexon. When I go backpacking, I'm really, really happy with my Chameleon. It's comfy and awesome. Also, Dutch keeps inventing new stuff that's compatible with the Chameleon zippers. For example, Dutch just came out with the Chameleon Sidecar, which is a zip-on side pouch that serves the same purpose as the (much-loved) shelf in the Warbonnet Blackbird, except if you want you can put one on both sides of your Chameleon. Switch things around, head-end, foot-end, right-lay, left-lay... The Chameleon is super flexible.

I just purchased a Warbonnet Thunderfly tarp (like, this morning. They've already popped it in the mail, so now I can refresh the tracking info 20 times a day... :sigh: ) I think it's a good compromise between the light weight of a hex tarp and the sideways-rain protection of a Superfly-style tarp with doors. (I live in the Pacific Northwest, so rain is always a consideration for me. Cuban is out of my price range right now, but in any case I'd want to experiment with that size and shape in sil-poly before investing in cuban.)

I also recently bought 1" Venom UHMWPE Ultralight Tree Straps which I use with some titanium Dutch clips (rather than passing the tree strap through its own loop) and then Becket hitch to the continuous loops on each end of my hammock.

I've got a Hammock Gear Burrow 20˚ quilt and a Hammock Gear Econ Incubator 10˚ underquilt, which I love with a disturbing passion (I tend to sleep cold, but that's not a problem when I'm nestled in my cocoon of down:) If weight and volume is of slightly less concern to you, I highly recommend Hammock Gear's Econ line as about $100 cheaper while still being pretty darn good (just a little heavier and bulkier for the same temp rating).

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If you're just getting into hammocking you might experiment with a cheap hammock from Amazon before putting down a bunch of money for an awesome piece of gear that might not suit you. Just remember, you want it to be as long as possible (most people consider 10 feet to be the bare minimum for comfort in a gathered hammock), and extra width doesn't hurt at all either. I bought this hammock when it was only $10, and immediately bought 2 more because it was pretty decent (Not nearly as good as a proper 11 foot hammock, but almost 10 feet long and fairly wide). I see the price has come back down to $11 -- well worth it for a halfway-decent gathered-end hammock. I slept in one of these for almost a year before making myself a longer hammock :) (I am a bit shorter than you, but I think you could still be reasonably comfortable in one of these. And then if you end up upgrading you've got a spare hammock that you don't care about so you can casually hang it without really worrying about kids (or grownups) swinging and being stupid in it...). Get a couple of 8" continuous loops from Dutch to feed through the ends of the hammock to replace the stupid ropes it comes with. You will probably also want to add a structural ridgeline to help get a consistent sag with your hammock and to hold a ridgeline organizer. Dutch sells some adjustable structural ridgelines, or you can just use some stout cord.

If bugs are an issue in your area, you might pick up a bug net to go with your cheap netless hammock. The Fronkey style bugnets are pretty popular add-ons.

(Of course, at this point it might be cheaper to just have bought a Chameleon, but this game is how most of us ended up owning several hammocks. On the plus side, we can help outfit our friends for hammock camping trips...)

Freezing from underneath is a problem in hammocks... If you've already got a sleeping pad, you can lie on it in your hammock, though your shoulders tend to get cold where they press against the hammock fabric. The ultimate in comfort is an underquilt. In addition to my fancy down backpacking underquilt, I've got a synthetic Snugpak Underquilt that I use on my hammock at home. I tend to sleep cold, and I find that this underquilt is only good down to about 65˚ before I start getting cold, but a regular human could probably take it down to 55 or 50˚.

If you're just getting started, a square tarp works pretty well and the Kelty Noah 9 tarp is inexpensive and more than 12.5 feet on the diagonal, so works pretty well for hammocking. Or you could just search for 'hex tarp' on amazon.com and get quite a few results -- just make sure it's long enough to cover the ridgeline of your hammock with at least a foot to spare (so at least 6" of extra on each side). In general, sil-nylon is slightly sturdier, slightly heavier, and more water absorbent than sil-poly, which most people agree is strong enough and better at shedding water. Sil-poly is what most people who can't afford cuban fiber are getting.

Hummingbird Hammocks makes some nice, lightweight tree straps that pair well with some Camp USA Nano Carabiners for a very simple and relatively lightweight setup. If you don't care about weight and want a cheaper option, just buy about 21 feet of 1" polyester strap from strapworks.com. Cut it into 2 equal pieces, melt the ends, and sew a 6" loop on one end of each strap. Learn how to tie a Slippery Becket Hitch and you've got a super simple, super cheap suspension. You can either feed the loops through themselves, or use the Nano Carabiners or some Dutch clips if you want a system that's a little easier to adjust after you've hung the hammock.

Speaking of the link for the Becket Hitch, the site I linked to is called The Ultimate Hang. I highly, highly recommend you spend some time reading through all the fabulous (and fabulously illustrated) hammocking information on the site, and perhaps even purchase his book :)

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If you're trying to decide which fancy, expensive hammock to buy, my best advice is to see if you can try the different models and versions for yourself. Check hammockforums.net and see if there are any group hangs happening anywhere near you, or maybe post and ask if anyone near you has some hammocks in various fabrics for you to try. I'm close to your weight, and bought the Chameleon in Hexon 1.0 after reading the old weight limit of 250 lbs (it's since been updated to 200lbs). I love it (it's nice and stretchy and makes a really great cradle for my head). I'm not really worried about using it by myself, as I figure they're being pretty conservative on their weight rating and probably changed the rating after one person had an ...incident... Alas, my dog weighs about 60 pounds, so I either have to upgrade to Hexon 1.6 or not sleep with my dog on the trail. On the one hand, my dog is very warm and I sleep cold.
On the other hand, my dog is a lab and if there's any water he'll probably be wading in it or have just rolled in something disgusting and I probably don't want him in my hammock anyhow...
(I made the hammock I sleep in at home out of Hexon 1.6 and it's just not as delightfully stretchy as the 1.0. But some people really prefer the firmness of the 1.6 or even the 2.4, so ???)

Anyhow, hopefully that wall of text is at least a little helpful :) Good luck finding a hammock/insulation/suspension/tarp combination that suits you. Even if you don't find "The Perfect Hammock" I think you'll find yourself more comfy in a hammock than on the ground.

PS. Don't forget to sleep on the diagonal!

If you left when you said in this comment, then I hope the trip is going well and this may be too little to late for this trip, haha. With that said, I really like the kit. Having backpacked 2,000 miles of the Appalachian trail in two long excursions separated by the harsh 2013/2014 weather and learning my limit on whats just enough to get by on for me, here would be a few things I would change:

Switch out the balaclava for a Buff. Awesome piece of gear and very multifunctional.

Forego the 2x extra socks. One extra pair should be plenty for camp/sleep if you need them or if your daily ones get gross (doesn't sound like you're going on an extended excursion so this doesn't seem to be a concern) and I wouldn't bother with waterproof shoes or socks. As much as companies have gotten better waterproofing technology, in my experience light, breathable gear will always fare better, especially for shoes and socks - waterproof will work until you get swamp feet if they do not dry/breathe enough, or work until water gets into the shoe. Which, if you are cycling, the only recognizable reason would be rain. Its going to get in your shoes, period. Your body heat and riding on the bike will dry out regular shoes and socks just fine. I would go for the thicker soled trainers but nothing beefier than that, just to have less pedal power loss than thin soled trainers.

With that said, a good pair of gaiters (shoe covers) is worth it, and a very simple and extremely light solution can be found at

dirtygirlgaiters.com

I hiked in mesh trainers with dirty girl gaiters through 2 feet of snow for about 3 weeks. It worked very well, but I really needed about another inch of "waterproofing" (shoes that weren't technically waterproof, but had higher walls instead of mesh right down to the sole) and got another pair of trainers that worked better. No issues with wet feet after that.

I would not take that bivy, period. That style of bivy isn't multifunctional, which in my gear is something I try to employ. I would go with:

A bug bivy:
http://borahgear.com/bugbivy.html
6oz
(The one I continue to use and love is the Marmot Terra Cotta, but its a bit heavier and uses one small pole instead of a rope pullout. I can't find where anyone sells it anymore. I slept under the stars most nights I could with just a bug bivy)

And a tarp (the lighter the better, but more expensive and can be a bit more delicate. Never had an issue with cuben fiber tarps myself, 100% waterproof and LIGHT):
http://www.hammockgear.com/standard-cuben-fiber-tarp-with-doors/

This tarp is the one I use. 6.5oz not weighing the UL tie off rope or snakeskin (more on this in a second) It has doors so if I know its going to be rough weather or cutting wind you can 'batten down the hatches', tie it close to the ground and close the doors, which would keep me from having to use warmer, heavier, bulkier gear for the windchill factor. Easy to get out of even like that and can set it up in any configuration the moment calls for. Tarps have more of a learning curve but it really isn't that difficult when you start using them and don't take long to set up once you get it down.

Snakeskins for a tarp are the best thing EVER. The skins follow the ridgeline of the tarp and hold everything together. All that you have to do to put the tarp up is pull it out of the your bag, tie one end off, tie the other, then slide the snakeskins from the middle out, unfurl the tarp and tie off your corners. Nothing touches the ground and takes 3 minutes to be done.

The mesh bivy/tarp system is going to weigh just about the same, ~1lb as the bivy you're using if you use light guylines for the tarp.

HAMMOCKING:
If you are attracted to the idea of hammock camping but haven't tried, I would go that route instead of the bivy/mat/tarp. You probably won't want to comepletely overhaul your system this time being your trip is so close, but for me its the best sleeping system. Its going to weigh pretty much the same, my basic set up with the hammock, all the lines, treestraps, and tarp is somewhere at 1.5lbs, whereas the bivy you are using is 1lb and the pad is 7oz. You still would need insulation, and you may still use the pad you have (more on that later) so it may be a little bit heavier (gasp) but much more comfortable and flexible system, not needing to have a flat spot that isnt going to get wet, needing only two trees 8-14 feet apart. Use the same tarp, but have this:

Grand Trunk Nano 7 hammock (I am 5'5" and 150ish so this fits me well. You may need to find a different UL hammock that fits you if you aren't around my size) 7 oz:

Grand Trunk Nano Hammock https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002WZN77Y/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_a7ClybWE775H7

Use a whoopie sling system (NO KNOTS, easiest way to hang a hammock. Slide the rope braided through itself to achieve the right hang):

https://shop.whoopieslings.com/

(Not that you'd need it now, but I made a very simple bugnet for the hammock like seen here:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Hammock-Bug-Net-Cheap/ )


I've slept in hammocks for about 1.5 years out of the last 3 whenever I discovered using them as a real sleeping system when hiking. Started hanging at home. Best sleep of my life. Best of all when camping everything is off the ground, and you can pee without even getting out of bed in the cold (as a guy) by just leaning out to one side (this takes practice xD )

For insulation you need to find out how you can be comfortable. I have a down under quilt (connects to the ropes of the hammock and cradles the hammock underneath) rated to 0 (been WARM, not just surviving, to -10 with the extra fill when I custom ordered the 0 degree bag [I had the over quilt with it as well during that time, which is like a sleeping bag with the head end opening like a blanket just past the footbox, much easier to get in and out of in a hammock]) that I also got at hammockgear.com. Its a small operation and the guy who owns it is super helpful.

You can also go with a space blanket as an underquilt. It would take a bit of taping and adding a clip to use like an underquilt, but it wouldn't take long and be very light and cheap.

Or keep your pad and use it in the hammock. Not the most ideal but it would work and still be more comfortable than the ground. I used the NeoAir Xlite, similar to the Nemo you're using, and was comfortable down to 40° with a sleeping bag liner and wool long johns and long sleeve shirt

The insulation factor is going to greatly depend on the person and where they are comfortable at, and what gear they are comfortable using. Keep in mind you can still prevent wind like you would with a bivy on the ground by tying the hammock a bit lower and tarp lower to the point that the tarp edge meets the ground.

I hope anything I've said here is useful. Definitely would like to hear how the trip goes, and whether or not your concerns were met or other concerns came up. Good luck!!

I have an ENO and an Honest Outfitters one that I got from Amazon for about 30 bucks (including straps).

I love my ENO and it has held up wonderfully. When my wife wanted one, we decided to try a cheaper option (she doesn't use it as much) and got the Honest outfitters one. Honestly they are pretty comparable as far as quality and all goes. The straps are exactly the same (Atlas brand, same style, size)
The only real difference is when you fold them up, it seems like the ENO gets a little smaller than the other and the ENO has a little better quality drawstring. Everything else seems to be the same (size, weight, mil of fabric, stitching, etc), the ENO seems a little smaller and easier to handle, but the straps go in a separate bag instead of in the bag with the hammock like the other so that's prob why. All in all we are pleased with cheaper one just the same. I perfer the smaller size of the eno because I strap it to my camelbak and take it with me everywhere (and the awesome print)

ENO is a great option. If you don't have the money to spend then just get that Honest Outfitters one and call it a day. You aren't missing much at all. Especially for a fest hammock that's prob going to get abused and all. I can't speak for the longevity of the honest outfitter one like I can the eno (bc I haven't had it that long or used it all that much) but the fact that it's literally a 3rd of the price of an ENO makes me think that it can stand to have a little less life in the tank...

TL;DR:


ENO- Awesome all around. Expensive (maybe paying a bit extra for the name). Would still recommend.


Honest Outfitters (Amazon)- Also awesome but with very minor dips in quality, 1/3 of the price of eno, would also recommend. <-- best bang for your buck.

[Amazon link to H.O hammock] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LTEPYC4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

5 pounds?!? no way. The pack alone is 4.8 pounds.

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Honestly - I'd replace every one of those items. They are pretty crappy items in each category.
I realize that everyone doesn't have a big budget - but even at those prices you can make smarter choices.

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Backpack
A tactical backpack rarely does well for wilderness backpacking. It is heavy (almost 5 pounds) and does not carry loads well (weak hipbelt). This specific one is only 47 liters, which will unlikely fit your kit.

Any backpack can hold a water bladder. You don't need a special sleeve for this. I prefer mine on top of my pack, not in the sleeve. Easier to get at and refill along the route - allowing me to carry less.

I'd recommend going into a local shop and trying on a few brands/models. See what fits your body well - as fit is key to getting 'the best' backpack. Look at brands like Osprey, Gregory, and similar in the 55-65 liter range.

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Shelter
10x7 is an okay size for a tarp. I'd probably get this instead: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EUHZ74I
You'll also need a ground cloth of some kind. Tyvek can be had for super cheap and works well.

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Sleeping pad
That looks fine, but realize that it will insulate you very little (RValue of 1.3). I'd probably get this instead (because I know Klymit brand and not 'OutdoorMan'): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RFG0NM

If you really want to go cheap - just get a closed foam sleeping pad. Not as comfortable, but as cheap as $20.

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Kitchen
That DIY grill and cheap cook set look fine.
One option is to go to your local thrift store and look for a pot/pan. If you just need 1 single piece is often easy to pick up there for cheap.

Will you also have a camp stove? This is a cheap/popular choice: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B4FY8YO

Do you have a water filter / purification method? The Sawyer Squeeze is popular. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005EHPVQW/
You can use simple disposable water bottles like SmartWater or Gatorade for your bottles. A bladder is nice, but cost more and heavier.

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Accessories

• Rope - skip paracord. It sucks for just about every application outside bracelets. I'd get this instead: http://lawsonequipment.com/Cordage/Ironwire-Fusion-p1076.html
  
• Knife - sure the Mora is fine. Don't go overboard here, you really don't need much.
  
  Then you'll likely need a bunch of other small miscellaneous items. First Aid Kit, headlamp, lighter, pack liner, food bag, compass, maps, etc.
  Plus clothes of course.
  
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  A typical pack weight for an overnight adventure is 20 pounds. Weather is a big factor in what you have to carry, but generally 15-30 pounds is the range you'll find the majority of experienced backpackers. 5lbs would be a ridiculously low pack weight (with or without consumables like food and water). I'd recommend you shoot to keep yours under 30, since you are new and used the word 'bushcraft' haha.
  
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  In the end - these are merely suggestions for improvement. You can totally get outside with the items you listed or nothing at all. Experience is the real key here. Try to borrow some items and spend the weekend outside. Take notes on what worked and what didn't, make changes, and try again. A kit of gear evolves over time and getting it 100% right on the first try is impossible. It helps to put serious thought into these items, in hopes of saving money, which is why I generally suggest to 'buy once, cry once'. Otherwise you buy 2 crappy versions, then ultimately realize what you should have bought in the first place - to buy that 3rd.
  
  

For mid range for someone new to hanging, I would absolutely get a hennessy explorer or expedition. Amazon link

Good quality bugnet, tarp, hammock, and suspension for a combined price and "hassle" quotient that cannot be beat.

EDIT: If you're under 5'8" and want to save some money, you could try the "Scout" model (amazon link) that costs $90. It is not an asymmetrical design though, so the lay might be slightly less comfortable.

Everything else recommended here (so far) requires you to go get your own suspension, bugnet, and/or tarp and figure it all out yourself. That's something I would totally recommend, but maybe not for your first time out and for your first hang.

For example:

the "eno package" -- $185. Spending this much on an eno setup is IMO crazy; get a cottage manufacturer setup instead (I like wilderness logics) for just a little bit more. Way higher quality and they'll come with more and better accessories.

• eno doublenest ($60)
  
• eno bugnet ($60)
  
• eno tarp ($80)
  
• suspension (~$25)
  
  or the "grand trunk" version -- ($175). Same here.
  
  
• grand trunk hammock w/bugnet ($70)
  
• grand trunk tarp ($80)
  
• suspension (~$25)
  
  or the "super budget yukon outfitters" version -- $65-105. Decent option for those on a budget, but the durability cannot be vouched for.
  
  
• yukon outfitters hammock w/ bugnet ($40) -- $20-30 on woot
  
• yukon outfitters hammock tarp ($40) -- $20 on woot
  
• suspension (~$25)
  
  
  So the only one that'll save you any significant amount of money will be the Yukon outfitters setup. At best it will save you $80 or so, if you're in a rush (which you are) and can't wait for Woot, then you'll save maybe $50. For that amount of savings, I would personally not sacrifice the durability and usability of the hennessy, especially if you're expecting any kind of inclement weather.
  
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  Keep in mind none of this takes care of your insulation problem. For someone just getting into it, I would say use your sleeping bag and put a pad in your hammock for under insulation. Later on you can start thinking about underquilts and top quilts, but it's overkill for you right now.

A big thing for me is fire. I love me some fire, but the question is always how to make it. There are all kinds of things to make your life easier, but two of my favorite things are 1.) The Sven Saw which is a collapsing saw that is good for brances/trees up to about 6 or 7inches (in my opinion) and 2.) Candle Firestarters along the lines of these. To be fair, I havent bought any candle firestarters in a while, since I made about 60 of them myself and decided it wasn't worth it to try that again. I'm just about out of them and will have to find a suitable commercial product.

Some of the other things that I lug along are as follows:

Cooking:

• Jet Boil - for hot beverages and simple meals
  
  
• Instant Coffee - Not nearly as tasty as the good stuff, but significantly less hassle
  
  
• Boullion Cubes - Easy source of salts, while providing a simple base for soups
  
  
• Small Tupperware cup w/ sandwich baggies of spices - Nothing makes a bland meal much better than a concoction of spices. I use a small 2"x2"x2" cup that keeps enough spices packed and dry to give me plenty of options.
  
  General
  
  
• Some lengths of rope and a few carabiners - useful hang stuff to dry, or secure a kayak to the shore
  
  
• Camp Chairs - Depending on your kayak, this may mean different types of seating. It can range from a full size comfortable chair, to a 3 legged ball-buster, but whatever it is, it beats sitting on the ground.
  
  
• Quality dry bags - I've found most dry bags will keep water out when new, but the material used for construction makes a lot of difference. My rule of thumb is 'the thicker the better'. My bag of choice is the Sea-to-Summit Big River Dry Bag due to the fabric (durable but not as stiff as the PVC bags) and the lashing loops that let me strap it down on top of my kayak without having second thoughts.
  
  Some things to consider
  
  
• If you're planning on cooking your own food from scratch, cook it at home first using the same equipment you'll be using on the river. I keep bringing rice with me to add to some basic broth, and I keep underestimating how long it actually takes to fully cook it. I'm sure there is a work around, or a better choice in rice, but I suck and don't plan ahead very well
  
  
• Bringing a tent? separate the poles from the rest of the tent, this will make the fabric part much easier to manipulate into a storage compartment.
  
  This is all I have off the top of my head, if something else comes up, I will post it.

MVP
/u/Diskz for posting the Washington>52nd Route to bypass the entirety of the the Monroe shitshow...Unreal.

Winners
Walking to gates- First year camping and beats the hell out of shuttles/ubers plus cost of AirBNB. More than makes up for lack of AC and showers/toilets.
Portable Shower Bag- Didn't use it every morning but having the option to sleep later was money
Cots- Pretty easy to set up. Also easy to break down each day to open up the space for chairs/chillin. Comfortable to sleep on just make sure you have insulation under you too because you get a draft from below.
Inflatable Lounger thing- Good bang for your $20. Comfortable to chill on, easy to deflate while not in use, easy to haul therefore better than a hammock.
Costco LED lights that /u/kateyrose recommended. Magnetic on the back to clip onto your EZ-up or car.
Losers
Tents- Told my campmates we could go without them but we set them up anyway. Definitely ditching these next year for more space and more EZ-UPs.
Cooking Food- Brought a ton of food which we were always too tired to cook. With the plethora of tasty vendors we'll probably skimp on groceries next year.

Other Notes
Barber- Got my haircut Friday morning. Pretty easy system. Went around 8:30am and signed up for a 10am time slot. Got a low fade and pretty happy with it. Tipped him $20 since thats what I'd normally pay for a haircut. Overall I would recommend if you don't have time to get it done during the week.
Heineken Beer Storage- I hate Heineken but since you can bring any of their other beers this is very much worth it. Alleviates so much space in your coolers. I brought a 36 rack of Coors Light to start the weekend off and brought a 30 rack of Tecate Light to the Beer storage Friday. You can text them to deliver it to your camp but I just picked it up on Sunday morning since we were near there anyways.
Adidas- As we were walking over to the line Sunday morning the carts were passing us so we lucked out on some tokens. Still waited 3 hours for shoes. If they do this next year I have to imagine they provide some more shade over the line because that was the only terrible part of the experience.

I can understand your desire for a cot set up. I can tolerate sleeping on air mattresses and sometimes on pads, but sleeping on the somewhat portable camping cot I purchased is amazing. I like mine so much that I would much prefer it over sleeping on some of the mattresses I've slept on when travelling. It is just about as comfortable as my mattress at home, and my mattress is the most comfortable thing I can sleep in. When it is too hot to sleep (I'm extremely warm blooded) I would say that the cot is better than my mattress.

That said, I don't think I've seen any two person camp cot (the one's that aren't folding mattresses) that would work well for a couple that likes to cuddle for sleep. My biggest problem is that I get hot and bothered way before my long-time gf does, and our sleeping tempuratures just don't match up. If you're in one of those cots then both of you are going to gravitate to one pit in the fabric, for me I need some air space after a few hours (or else I'll sweat and she'll be drenched). This might not be a problem for you.

Also I want you to make sure you know the two person tent-cot you link to does have the cross-bar down the middle.

How large are you and your wife? Watch out for cots that don't fit your height. I'm 6 feet tall and I barely fit into a largish cot with a pillow and when I don't want to rest my heels on a metal cross bar at the ends of my cot.

My recommendation, if you and your gf are small enough, find a really large cot that is meant for a single person. Mine is the smaller version (dimensions: 75 x 25 x 17-Inch) from the one I just linked to, and I enjoy it. If you go that route you will be sleeping closely even if you don't want to, but I think it could easily fit two people my size (190 lbs and 6 feet) and a small child. I tried it for a nap with my gf, and we both sort of just fell into the same spot that our body weight makes on the cot.

Another thing to try is a large hammock. Then you'll really be sleeping closely; unless you have some sort of "bridge hammock". Those seem to be flatter and similar in some ways to camping cots.

For packing, I used a North Face XXL Base Camp duffel bag. Did you get a luggage scale? I did, and it really really helped me make the most of my packing. I also use it for backpacking too, to help measure my gear loadout.

Wagons: I bought a Sekey folding wagon with bigass moon rover tires, but the Amazon listing got changed to patio umbrellas and I don't see them on there at all anymore, so... ?

Here's one that looks almost identical, but with extra bells and whistles that you may or may not want. Looks legit though:

r/http://a.co/d/5GVL2n3

There's also this wagon that, although it doesn't have the oversize tires, is a double decker design that would be helpful for carrying more gear:

r/http://a.co/d/iQhWDDO

As for seating, I have one of these that I brought with, and it's easy enough to fit in a duffel bag, cheap, and light:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009WH1920/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_5lAJBbHPA9DD5

REI also makes a really comfy collapsible backpacking chair that is cheaper than comparable ones from Helinox, and more comfortable IMO:

https://www.rei.com/product/877258/rei-co-op-flexlite-chair

Hammocks are always a great idea too. The Hennessy Hammocks mentioned before are great for camping, but if you just want something cheap and casual for chilling while camping, I've been really happy with this company:

https://www.bearbuttteam.com/products/hammock-combo-pack

Alright, so here is my answer to pretty much none of your questions.

I have these two items:

• ALPS Mountaineering Outback Self-Inflating Air Mat
  
• Teton Sports XXL Cot
  
  The cot is quite a bit bigger than you are looking for. It's like the size of a twin bed so it's unwieldy and awkward to setup and haul around, so it won't travel unless you want to ship it.
  
  The Alps mattress is pretty much the same thing as the Exped, but a little bigger and a bit cheaper.
  
  These two items are not going to be very portable; I use them car camping. I have never slept more than three nights in a row on them, but they were unbelievably comfortable; as good as my memory foam mattress at home. Firm and supportive, but has some give where your pressure points are. And the height of the cot and pad together were such that I could sit on them to put on socks and pants.
  
  So, while I know these items are not going to suit you, I think that a couple of things I learned might be helpful. My cot gives a little when I lie on it which is expected. My pad is several inches narrower than the cot which is perfect since it ends up fitting right between the supporting bars. The 'self inflating' pads I believe are constructed with a memory foam core inside what is essentially an air mattress. In my experience that foam core solve the biggest complaint I have with air mattresses: the way the air moves around as you roll around on it.
  
  Anyway, I think your mattress selection is great; cot too, thought it's hard to know if they will work together as the widths are pretty similar.
  
  Edit: The Kelty Discovery High Cot might meet your needs and the size seems about right.

I love camping/outdoor stuff too and I've gotten a lot of fun gifts over the years. Here's a few that I think any outdoor lover would enjoy.

Flint fire starter
Compact camping hammock
Camping Tomahawk (Seriously, me and my friends had so much fun learning to throw this)

If you're really stuck you can always just take a trip to REI, that store is like candyland for the outdoor lover, although they can be expensive. Camelbacks, lanterns, oudoor cookware, and all other cool stuff can be found there.

If you're leaning towards a gaming gift that can be harder unless you know what he needs, and most parts for a gaming computer are probably going to clear your budget. But you mentioned he likes GoT so I could reccomend the Game of Thrones - Board Game. I've played this and it's a lot of fun.

• HAMMOCK - You can surely go lighter than 800g on the hammock without a problem.
  This one is 198g but it's not the largest hammock and I have not personally used it. My current hammock is 550g with whoopie slings in place of what it came with. I think you could likely go 3-400g safely and not risk losing too much comfort.
  
  
• TARP - Mine is homemade and it sits at 440g with everything to hang it. I made it very cheaply with silnylon seconds from [Noah Lamport] (http://www.noahlamport.com/contactus.aspx) but you have to call them and talk to them. You can go smaller and have a lot less weight but I like mine. If you feel like throwing money around you can get down to 122g.
  
  
• STRAPS My homemade straps are 90(ish)g and work very well. You could go shorter for less weight but I wanted flexibility on my hang options. Google gives you lots of options near that cheaply.
  
  
• UNDERQUILT - If you want to save weight 3/4 length underquilts are probably the direction you want. 3/4 length @ 450g I just linked the first one I searched and do not have experience with it specifically. I could list tons of others but I don't think you will have too much difficulty finding options in your weight range.
  
  
• TOPQUILT advice will be similar to underquilt. Just look around and see what fits your need. You may use your current bag for the time being to save money. I personally would buy that last as the function of a topquilt vs sleeping bag isn't that far separated.
  
  
• SUSPENSION - I would probably convert whatever suspension system you get on the hammock to amsteel/dyneema for a weight savings. Its fun to make and not that expensive.
  
  I would have been more detailed but I might just have a hangover.

dont get her an ENO. they're expensive, and they're not as comfortable due to their demensions as some other options out there.

I would checkout dutchwaregear.com they have a nice purple polyD hammock she would probably like. The polyd will be more comfortable with the longer hammock while weighing less than the eno. Price wise you can get the hammock complete with cinch buckle suspension for the price of just the eno, factor $40 more for suspension and imho it's a no brainer. Depending on your budget, you could spend the extra dough on extras like a ridgeline, and organizer but that may be a bit over the top if it's her first hammock and she's just getting into it. If she's into hiking and camping, she may be interested in a tarp as well. The Yukon tarp regularly goes on woot for like $29. Then there's the whole ordeal of insulation. Sleeping pad and sleepingbag seem to be an acceptable sacrifice on weight and comfort to price for some.

EDIT: OP you're in luck! WOOT just went live today 6 more hours to go. This is a better hammock than the eno imho.

Awesome! I'll get a bunch of pictures and put 'em in a self post so I can see what is thought of my Gregory.

And I have a 12oz Grand Trunk hammock with which I considered purchasing mosquito netting and a rainfly. Those Hennessies looked great, but I couldn't find anything on their site, or any reviews on Amazon that spoke of insulation. Would it be necessary to get a hammock quilt for the colder weather?

I don't have trekking poles, and the only time I've used them was on the Smokies and in Cohutta. But I've been reading Whiteblaze, and there's a lot of talks about forging deep streams, so I think they're quite the necessity. I have assorted stuff sacs at home, so I'm not worried about them. What I am worried about is having a wet pair of trailrunners. I've run (not hiked) in rainy conditions, got them soaked, and they took about 2-3 days to dry, and I don't want to be put out of commission for long. In regards to wear, I guess I could mail them poste restante at post offices about 300 miles apart and alternate pairs.


Great, noted! And that's what I'm trying to keep in mind, scouting principles are fighting it, but for the AT, lightness > preparedness. Shelters are about 8 miles in between, so if something goes wrong, I'm (almost) always less than four miles from help. For ease of use, I'm going to have a platypus water bottle with a hose, it's exorbitantly light. What kind of stove did you use (make?) that used unpressurized alcohol, just a can-stove? And how did that treat you?

Mug dropped!

Loving Whiteblaze, I'm registered but just lurking now, immensely helpful.

Thanks for all your help!

Woke up to rain, and the gear worked great!

I made sure to tie small drip lines to all of my suspension (including the tarp suspension) and not a drop came in. Even had the tarp relatively high and in porch mode all night (for the view of the moon).

Hammock is just a cheapo Grand Trunk that has served me faithfully for about four years without any trouble. Although I'm deciding that the extra comfort of moving up to an 11 foot hammock will probably be worth it soon.

Eno tree straps

Eno profly tarp

homemade PLUQ worked wonderfully during the ~50 degree non-windy evening.

Jungle blanket: This was my first time using it instead of a bag, and man oh man was it great. Was nice and cozy down to 50 degrees, and I didn't get tangled in it like I do in my sleeping bags. Recommend 100% if you don't want to drop the dough on a down topquilt. Maybe even if you do, since this seems way better in the wet than down would.

River is the Potomac, and I got it all there on my bike. About 40 miles outside of DC

-a hammock because the outdoors is awesome

-this sharpie is amazing

-these pens, although a little pricey, are AMAZING. Additionally, you can get refills for them on Amazon and those are inexpensive

-best coloring pencils imho

-Some really awesome book series one, two, three and four

-for math, here's some sodoku

-Some movies: Overboard, When Harry Met Sally, Burlesque

-Telescope

-Picnic basket

-Spirituality book

-some incense and an awesome fairy burner to go with them

I'll try and add some more later :)

Thanks for the contest

I really really want it! ( $5 and $10

First, let me actually link to the stool I bought.

Second, check out what shows up when you search disc golf stool on amazon.

The first result was too short for my liking. The 3rd had a pretty meh review rating. Mine, right there at number 2, had solid ratings and a decent price.

Both the Innova and Discraft chair on that list, as well as your HukLab brand one price out at at least $40, more than twice what I paid. That definitely isn't a marginal difference I'm gonna ignore to "grow the sport".

Not to mention we're all already doing our part by buying discs, bags, paying tournament entries, playing our local courses, spreading the word in our communities, and inviting new people out with us.

I don't owe a company that's trying to make a buck off a niche sport by marketing a specialized "disc golf stool" when other outdoor companies, who have just as much a vested interest in making a durable, long lasting product, can beat the DG companies price 2 times over.

What would win me over? More functionality. You show me a disc golf stool that somehow works better on a DG course than a regular camping stool that beats is price 2 times over, maybe I'll consider it. That's why I have a disc golf bag instead of a regular backpack.

>We are very fortunate to be in the sport which has the cheapest equipment IN THE WORLD. No sporting item is cheaper than a golf disc when lifetime of the product is factored in.

That's a pretty baseless claim. Tons of sports require only 1 item, the ball, soccer and basketball for instance. You can equate hoops and nets for our disc golf courses, so those are free. AND not everyone needs their own ball.


>Do not buy stuff from non-disc golf companies if it is at all possible!

I suppose your next pants purchase will be the $100 disc golf pants

>This is hardly rocket surgery now - is it?

Kinda jumbled up two different idioms there.


tl:dr some specialized products are overpriced because they know some people will buy it at that price just because it says "disc golf" on it. I say be an informed shopper and force them to compete.

That looks overpriced, also they don't show you anything about how you hang it, I would suggest it would be like a gathered end hammock but with no explanation I'm pretty lost here.

If you're looking to save money you could get a grand trunk for 19.00 or so http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-GT-05-Ultralight-Hammock/dp/B001AIBJSI

Or you could get an ENO for the price of the hammock you list http://www.amazon.com/Eagles-Nest-Outfitters-SingleNest-Hammock/dp/B001DDPG9I/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1346975200&sr=1-1&keywords=ENo just make sure you get the 42 dollar one.

All three of these hammocks are going to need a suspension system. You can read all about that here http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=86

Now if you're not going camping and just going to hang in the back yard I would suggest the texsport la paz
http://www.amazon.com/Texsport-14258-La-Paz-Hammock/dp/B000P9GZUA/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1346975458&sr=1-1&keywords=tex+hammock probably the best backyard napper around.

Hope all this information helps.

TL/DR Don't get a hammock from these people, there are way cheaper, lighter, and better options for camping and also for the back yard.

I think a https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AXN3HG8 is a good choice. If you're cash tight and want something for inside, this is a good $50 solution. Pairing it with a $40 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0167IYGH6 underquilt works well.

I have a friend who has back issues and I gave him that hammock after testing it out and being pretty pleased with it. He's been full-timing it for what must be around 6 months now and loves it. I've been full timing for ~8 years.

The reason I would dissuade you from getting a dual function hammock is primarily because you'll need a lot more equipment to sleep outside and it can add up. I think it's better to get a great bang for the buck for inside if that's your primary use case.

great club idea! I'm a novice, but I've got a cheap hammock that I love. the brand is yes4all and I got it on Amazon.

it's cheap yet durable, I have one and it's great! been using it regularly since Christmas (I know not too long) and I've yet to find something wrong with it! I've had 450lbs in it, which is the upper limit, and had no problems. iirc on Amazon the cheapest is a single for like $12. I got a double and tree straps so mine came out to about $25 (you can choose different options). also certain colors are more expensive. brb with a link!

edit [here ya go!] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XVDWQNC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468995414&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=hammock+yes4all&dpPl=1&dpID=415N4-AKvrL&ref=plSrch). looks like they're a few bucks more than when I bought mine, but still decent pricing!

Amazon has [this one] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G3ZURYU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468995512&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=hammock&dpPl=1&dpID=41ckWpx8gbL&ref=plSrch) too for fairly cheap, but more expensive than yes4all. I don't have personal experience with them though :/

good luck!

I just realized that I think most things on my list are cool. I guess I'm going to say this hammock. It looks super easy and super comfortable and super awesome. And I've always wanted to have a hammock. Seriously, can you imagine? Part of me wants to set it up in my living room or something so I can watch TV or read a book whilst in a hammock!

You don't need everything at once. It can get pricey and if you don't know for sure that you will like an all-nighter in a hammock I wouldn't go too crazy to start.

You won’t need a mummy sleeping bag if you get an UQ. It’s more of a pain to get in and out with a sleeping bag anyway. No pics right now but this is what I have. I live in Texas so it isn’t cold all the time but I travel to surrounding states to go climbing and hiking and it has all kept me dry, bug free, and toasty down into the 30’s. I’m cheap and haven’t gone with the top name brands but this setup works perfectly for my needs. It wasn’t all bought at once and some stuff you could choose to go even cheaper and DIY. Spent less than $250.

•Grand Truck Ultra-Light Hammock-$20 amazon http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Royal/dp/B001AIBJNS/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1406917536&sr=1-1&keywords=grand+trunk+ultralight+hammock

•Grand Trunk Hammock Mozzy Netting-$50 amazon. Price is higher now. I prefer this one over others because it has a floor. So much easier to get in and out without bugs slipping in. And a place for you’re your shoes, pack, whatever, on the ground without creepy crawlies climbing in. Worth the added weight to me. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005TOR6RW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

•3 Season Jarbidge Underquilt – Pd $100 KAQ Arrowhead Equipment, sale right now for $75

•Marlin Spike Hitch Whoopie Sling Kit (toggles, slings, straps)-pd $20, Arrowhead Equipment , sale right now for $15

•Just bought ridgeline today when buying another whoopie sling kit for my other hammock and water filters from their sale. If you get the kit, you can get a ridgeline for an additional $10

•For cooler nights, Texsport Fleece Sleeping bag-$10 Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001916XG4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

•Plain blue tarp- maybe $10? Almost never use unless rain is anticipated.

It depends on what kind of cot it is. If it's a spring cot like this, you'll still want the mat, otherwise it'll tear up your sleeping bag. However, those are really just old army cots (we used them in scouting, you'll probably never see them in person), and you're almost certainly going to have a cot more like this. If you go with one of those you won't need the mat. I'd say those cots are usually more comfortable than the ground, even if you use a mat.

Something else you might have to consider is tent space. While cots are great, they take up a lot of space, so you'll need to make sure it'll fit in your tent, and that you'll be able to keep your other gear in your tent. Another thing, that probably doesn't apply to you, is backpacking. If you're carrying your gear a long distance, lighter is better, and it'd be easier to carry a mat than a cot.

Since it's your first time camping I'm assuming you're just driving to a campground and spending the night, so your best bet is probably a cot.

I can't speak for this particular tent but I have spent my fair share of time in cheap tents... Here is all I can say...

You get what you pay for. A cheap tent will be too hot, or too cold. A cheap tent will leak. A cheap tent will tear. A cheap tent will not hold up....

If you plan on doing this 3 day trip and that is it, I would say go for it. If you don't mind a little discomfort, just get the cheap tent. If you plan on camping/backpacking a few times a year, bite the bullet and get a nicer tent. Budget camping can be tough, but you have a few alternative solutions...

Hammocks: Camping hammocks seem to have grown in popularity over the past few years. They are excellent in warm weather. Hammocks will feel very cold very quickly if the temperatures drop. There is no insulation beneath you without adding it yourself. They can be a little bit cheaper than tents, but they can get pricey quick if you get the tarp, bug net, blankets, pillows, etc... Eno is the most popular brand, but consider cheaper alternatives such as Grand Trunk.. I have this particular hammock and it has served me well.

REI outlet (or other online stores): The REI website has a portion dedicated to gear that is last years model and simply needs to be sold. I have seen $300 tents drop as low as $150. Keep an eye out for a great deal on new gear!

REI Scratch and Dent Sale: From time to time, REI will do a giant sale on gear that has been returned. While some gear may actually have a defect, the generous return policy of REI allows customers to abuse the company. It is said that some customers think that REI stands for "Rent-Every-Item." During these sales, items will drop in price anywhere from 30-70 percent off retail value. Consider an REI membership and participate in sales.

Roughing it: I am not sure about the campsites you will visit or the weather you are to expect. If it is warm and dry, a quilt on the ground, a pillow, and a light blanket can suffice... Once again, this is very conditional and not advised in adverse weather or climates....

First off, you two rock seriously. I am amazed by the generosity, and wish I had the means to do the same. Just know, even if its not me thats selected, the gratitude and appreciation is there.

That being said. The item that I want/need that is on my WL is this here (Its in my random stuff list, first page): http://www.amazon.com/Competitor-729-Olympic-Weight-Bench/dp/B00245LJX6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=GZ23EIUTDBK0&coliid=I1BHEALAEBYP80 I have finally cleared out the space in my spare room and will be turning it into a workout room. I really want to, and need to get healthy. This is part of my plan to do so.

And onto part two (its in my camping gear list).... C'mon...gimmie.
http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3MBIYM75BTZOF&coliid=I1457MYHZJCKIR&psc=1

And last but not least...while I can not see what you two look like at this current moment, your beautiful souls are shining through and making you two look amazing, seriously.

I have a Grand Trunk Brand Hammock that looks and feels just like the expensive Eno hammocks, but i got it off Amazon for $19.99. It doesn't come with straps, but I found an awesome set of straps for $4.99 on Amazon as well. If you are interested, let me know and I will send you the links!
Edit: spelling, and heres the link for the hammock: Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock (Forest Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_VHywxbV0QYDTV

I've been using this cot for a few years now. Very comfortable and spacious. Folds up nicely and can handle lots of weight. The foam pad that's also by Teton is very comfortable. If it's really hot I sometimes don't use the foam pad at all and it's still comfortable enough. There's no real pressure points, which helps comfort-wise. When folded up the cot on its own is about the size of a folded ez up. It's about the same size as a twin bed when setup.

TETON Sports Outfitter XXL Camping Cot; Perfect for Base Camp and Hunting; Cots for Adults; Free Storage Bag Included https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000P6BGYI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_z1Nczb9TM72EA

For an underquilt I got a Snugpak for $57 . You could definitely go a bit cheaper, but it has pretty good reviews on Amazon.

On top, I use a sleeping bag since I don't always use my hammock. It's my only really nice piece of gear. I was lucky enough to score a 20 degree bag from Mountain Hardware for $50 at the employee store since my relative works for them.

The Wise owl ultralight is $37.99. The hammock is small and with the suspension weighs 13oz. The straps and carabiners are on the heavy side.

The hummingbird hammock single is a little bit smaller and lighter at 5.2 oz for the hammock and 1.55 oz for the straps, but more expensive.

The outdoor vitals ultralight is a similar size but the hammock is made from a heavier and stronger fabric than the other two. Comes in the middle price wise and weighs 14oz total.

The grand trunk nano 7 comes in 7.4 oz but doesn’t include the straps.

All of these I would consider travel hammocks in the ~9’x4’ range and ~5-8 oz weight for just the hammock. They’re nice for chillin. They wouldn’t really be great to sleep in but it’s possible.

I personally use this bag.

It is light as a draw string and the wide straps won't hurt the shoulders at the end of the day. There are a few pockets inside for the smaller items like your phone, DS, small water bottle, or trinkets you buy when on the floor. This bag does not have lined dividers for items like posters/prints, books/comics, toys, games, etc. So keep in mind how to organize your swag to survive the day.

I learned that using a diploma cover will save you a lot of frustration for paper items that must remain flat. Get yourself a PVC pipe for posters and photos. Oh, if you don't mind carrying a little extra weigh, get yourself one of these you can easily expect to wait over 4 for the popular boots. That a lot of time standing like cattle. So do your best to stay comfortable. And wear deodorant.

I'm a big hammock fan, so I'm sorry if I get long winded. Been through a few hammocks in search of perfection (never worn one out). I started with this one, have the most experience with this one, most recently started using this one. Used hammocks to cover the south half of Wisconsin's state parks in 2013 on a CB750 wearing this backpack.

Finding trees the right distance was (impressively) never a problem for me. I've been thinking there should be a way to hang one side on the motorcycle should the need arise, but haven't yet had to test it. I'd really like to be able to hang from the motorcycle on one side and the frame on that pack on the other side, but don't know if the pack will support a person (hasn't been warm enough to test since I thought of this).

In terms of rain, I started with a generic big blue tarp from a hardware store. This was a bad idea, thing was bulky, loud, and inflexible to the point of being hard to work with. Now I use this and it does the job pretty well. I used a large size of this tarp for a while, but the one I got was too big and ultimately heavier than needed.

I'm sorry to bust your bubble, but hammocks can get cold at night. I used this sleeping pad, after a while added this to keep the shoulders warm. Sleeping on what feels like a massively oversized menstrual pad never felt right, plus they get a little awkward in a hammock. Everybody I've heard from recommends underquilts for proper insulation, and it took me until this year to bite the bullet and get one (they're not cheap). I just got this yesterday, and intend to test it tomorrow night.

This book has been widely recommended. I haven't read it yet, but at $4 for kindle, that's not a bad price. You can read it on a smartphone or computer with the kindle app (which is free).

It wasn't until I typed this all out that I realized how much money I probably spent on all this stuff. I didn't buy it all from Amazon, just convenient links.

I'm happy to help! I use http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0043AK0O4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 it's very highly rated and rightfully so for that price. Feels firm but not so firm as to hurt my back. Been sleeping on it for over a year soon and I feel great. I like the side table, it's useful for placing my tablet. Amazon has a great return policy in case it doesn't work out.

Ah yes, the glamorous life of an on-site IT guy! Most times I stand or sit on the floor if I’m not going to be in the actual data room very long. I’ve always asked to borrow a spare chair if they had one around. Most clients kindly oblige and it works if there’s space. I’ve always wanted to try this stool out by never pulled the trigger.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FXVAYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_x.7LBbXN397QQ

I generally improvise when onsite and don’t like to do “sit down work” in the actual data room if I can get away with it. Getting remote access is my first priority if a spare desk or unused conference room is available. But we can’t always get away with that. I’ve used everything from cardboard boxes as a computer stand and my backpack as a seat. The laptop padding in my bag is actually pretty comfy. I only did that once because I had to and of course removed anything that would break or stab me. That said I’d recommend a dedicated neck roll as a floor seat. Also, learning to use a track ball mouse has helped since I don’t need to find a surface to move a regular one all around when you need one and space is tight. I never leave home w/o a 50 foot Ethernet cable and extra long usb to serial cable either. Have fun and hey, let’s be careful out there.

I have a Grand Trunk Ultralight. It was only 20 bucks on Amazon and pretty decent quality, so definitely worth it for the price. You might need to replace (or simply remove) the metal hooks, they are just pointless weight. It is on the shorter side as hammocks go, but it's a great hammock to always carry in a backpack just in case you find a fun spot. As others have said, if you want something much better for not much more money, then look into Dutchware or other higher quality brands.

Thanks for the kind words /u/EatMoarToads. Enjoy your time on the Appalachian Trail! Its a beautiful area and I'm sure you'll have a great time.

I'm sure you are thoroughly prepping for the trip, but my 1 suggestion for hikers is always to look into hiking covered hammocks rather than having to bring a tent/pad/etc. This one is inexpensive and has pretty good reviews on Amazon... but there are a LOT of options out there

We'll be here arguing and speculating over Tesla whenever you get back :)

As /u/lordnecro states, it really depends on where you are and what you're looking for. Looking for agates on the shores of the Great Lakes? A windbreaker with pockets will do ya! Chiselling material out of hard rock? A bit more equipment-intensive.

Proper outdoors gear is indispensible -- water, snacks, first aid, sunblock, bugspray, etc. Clothing-wise, I go with jeans, a lightweight hiking shirt with roll-able long sleeves, and a broad-brimmed Tilley hat. Square scarf to keep the sun and bugs off or to keep warm. Vest with lots of pockets is a plus/minus.

In terms of tools, I generally make do with a mid-sized Estwing rock hammer (in its kick-ass holster, obviously!), a gardening trowel, and a chisel or shovel depending on what sort of material I expect to be looking through. A gardening kneelboard is great for sitting on when the ground's muddy or rocky. I picked up a pair of rubberized gloves from Home Depot that have served me pretty well. A bucket is good for hauling gear in and medium sized specimens out. A ziplock bag, possibly cushioned with paper towels and kept in a shirt pocket, keeps small specimens together.

Miscellaneous: Magnifying glass/loupe, pocket knife, streak plate for field ID. Redline pocket flashlight. Blacklight or radiation detector if required for specific targets. And a hammock is critical for the mid-afternoon siesta!

Here's a link where I tried my best to give directions to the rope swing. Just explore it.

Also, just my 2 cents, but don't buy an ENO. They're trendy and what not, but they're really over priced and, if you plan on using it for camping or backpacking, not a great option. Head over to /r/hammocks and search around.

I've had an ENO for 2 years and it's too frayed now for me to feel comfortable in it. I treated it as nice as you can treat a piece of outdoor equipment. This is much cheaper and supposed to hold up much better.

OK! I found other awesome stuff!

Another butt stock holder for a riffle

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B001F0GF58/ref=mp_s_a_1_63?qid=1427648441&sr=8-63&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=hunting&dpPl=1&dpID=41hAOujc2sL&ref=plSrch

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http://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B001AIHB76/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1427649115&sr=8-2&keywords=hammock&dpPl=1&dpID=41WSWpSPuqL&ref=plSrch&pi=SY200_QL40

Those hammocks are awesome! He can relax while he waits for deer or whenever he wants!

Edit: changed hammock link for prime one

ENO makes nice hammocks but do yourself a favor and grab a longer hammock. Look at any forum and you'll find people raving about how comfy 11' hammocks are. Dutchware is a popular option. A single layer w/whoopie hook suspension and webbing is only about $10 more than the ENO + straps, and much lighter (17.7oz vs 35oz).



For insulation you can use and old sleeping bag as a top quilt. For bottom I've heard good things about the Snugpack Under Blanket.

Might get you down to 30°F but should be enough to keep you warm down to the 40-50s.

The Grand Trunk hammocks are pretty good I think. Pretty cheap too and great warranty service.

http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375726639&sr=8-1&keywords=hammock

I've got a traditional Pawley's Island rope hammock for backyard use, but after getting a Hennessey Hammock for camping I don't even bother with the rope one anymore. Even in the backyard, the Hennessey is so quick to set up, and unlike the rope one, doesn't leave red rope pressure impressions on my calves. With the Hennessy you've got rain and mosquito protection if you want it, but you don't have to get in it if you don't want to. You can just flip it over and use it like a regular lay on top or sit on top hammock/ chair sling if you desire. It's too long to fit in a standard metal hammock cradle, though, if that's important to you.

yeah, if you're not even sure you'll like sleeping in a hammock, a cheap one is the way to go- I have this $19 Grand Trunk Hammock

http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76

though it doesn't come with a suspension. A quick way to make one is to get ~16 feet of 1" nylon webbing, cut it into 2 pieces, tie loops at the ends with overhand knots, then on each tree, loop one end through the other end (of the same length of webbing), then hook the metal loop of the GT ultralight to the end of the webbing reaching from the tree. then do the same with the other 8 foot length on the opposite tree.

if you can get even a half-decent night of sleep in that (provided you are warm enough, etc- summer is the best time to try it out), you will probably love sleeping in a hammock while camping.

> Do you feel that a cot might be more beneficial than the mattress?

Without question. When you have back pain you need support. Air matresses, while soft, offer very little in the way of support. My SO won't go camping (glamping really) without the cots now. They're far more comfortable. Especially if you throw a couple of nice blankets of them. These are the ones we use. They're considered extra large and the extra space feels great.

It's not technically a hammock it's a Tentsile Stingray, which is like a 'tree tent'.

I bought a hammock for camping, it's awesome. I get uncomfortable in tents because they are hot and stuffy to me. Because I camped in a place that didn't really have flying bugs, I just set up my hammock, and got in with my sleeping bag, and fell asleep with a view of the stars. Pretty cool and super comfy. I think the hammock was like $25 too.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G3ZURYU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

hammocks are actually amazing for your back! if you want to learn more I highly suggest going to /r/hammocks. Very friendly and active subreddit. If I were to suggest a cheap, easy, foolproof set up. i'd do this. Hammock, Straps, people may say go with the kammok roo python straps, but some parks are super choosy on what can be hung on their trees. And heres a tarp that regularly gets down to $20 on woot.com.

I would recommend trying to get them on amazon if you haven't already. I purchased this one a while back and love it http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001AIBJNS/ref=aw_d_var_2nd_sporting-goods_img?vs=1
But I did have to pay another $15-$20 for the straps. Best of luck to you and your business!

IDK What sort of weather you'll be camping/hiking in, but this is a pretty basic list of gear that I would take if I were on a budget:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JYHI24/?tag=ultrastuff-20

http://www.amazon.com/Suisse-Sport-Adventurer-Ultra-Compactable-Sleeping/dp/B001TR7QZA/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1408072994&sr=1-3&keywords=ultralight

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FB7XYXM/?tag=ultrastuff-20

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002COCF3M/?tag=ultrastuff-20

That's a bag, tarp, hammock and sleeping bag. They all have great ratings and should get you through just about anything.

Me, personally, I carry my hammock, a wool blanket and my tarp from http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/ ( http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/Coyote-Tarp-10x10-tarp-10x10-coyote.htm ) in my army surplus bag. I also carry my stainless steel pot and cup, cordage, zip ties, leather gloves, folding saw, axe and knife with me when I'm out in the woods. I have a "space blanket" too.

My pack could be lighter for sure, but everything I have serves a purpose.

Whenever you decided you want to get into campinp/hiking/bushcraft/whatever, decided what you really need/want to have with you. Don't just jam random "camping" supplies in your bag. Take your time, research and pack carefully. Your back will thank you.

There are a couple economical underquilt options out there. Snugpack's Underblanket is one. The lead time is a bit rough. I have their Jungle Blanket for top insulation and the workmanship is pretty good.


If you're handy and have access to a sewing machine, you could always make your own. I've made a couple PLUQ's, suggested by a few others, and they work great.

Another option is modifying old sleeping bags. Clearance sections can be your friend. :)
Edit: Hyperlink fail.

I grabbed a few of the “Moon Lence” chairs and one of their tables off amazon for off-road camping with my two boys. They are really great for what they cost though I can’t say I’d ever bring them Backpacking.

Here’s a pic of them in action. And yes, they comfortably seat adults too. 😁

It all really depends on what level of comfort you want/need. Like any type of outdoor gear, you can spend stupid amounts of money. This one seems really well reviewed and is very inexpensive. Plus it's lighter than even the lightest, most expensive tents.

It wouldn't work for winter camping, but you could buy some netting and something like this and have a really nice set-up for less than $100. Heck, even a tarp and rope could make a serviceable rain fly. It might not pack up really small for the bike, but it's better than nothing.

It’s one of these:
Kamp-Rite Tent Cot Original Size Tent Cot (Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BH46MU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JHhADbY1HNT8H

$150. No mount it just sits on the ground. Takes about 2 minutes to setup and is pretty comfortable. I keep it around to use when I bring a friend camping and they don’t have a tent or sometimes if I don’t have my RTT mounted I’ll use it for a quick one or two nighter.

Everyone that uses it loves it. However if given the choice I’ll still take my Autohome.

My favorite thing about spring is just being able to be outside again! I'm an avid rock climber, hiker, and rafter, so I just want to be able to enjoy those things again! I feel like this would really help me out this spring

I went with a ALPS Mountaineering Lynx 1-Person Tent for sleeping with a Camp Solutions Lightweight Self-Inflating Air Sleeping Pad. Had a 40 degree bag/quilt from Walmart since I was traveling in August time frame.

Took this chair that really came in handy Moon Lence Outdoor Ultralight Portable Folding Chairs with Carry Bag Heavy Duty 242lbs Capacity Camping Folding Chairs Beach Chairs

Cooking set I used was 12pcs Camping Cookware Stove Canister Stand Tripod Folding Spork Wine Opener Carabiner Set Bisgear(TM) Outdoor Camping Hiking Backpacking Non-stick Cooking Non-stick Picnic Knife Spoon Dishcloth. It was good enough for the 3 weeks on the road and im still using it to this day.

Seat cushion which was good but I needed something much thicker by the end of the trip MadDog GearComfort Ride Seat Protector

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I just put all that into a waterproof 45L bag I had and then shoved my clothes into a backpack on top. Jerry rigged a canvas bag on the side for quick access things like tools and such. The net thing on top of my bags was very very helpful as well. I used these hammock straps to tie everything down on the bike since I could use them again PYS outdoor XL Hammock Straps Heavy Duty 20FT & 40 Loops&100% No Stretch (Set of 2) Fits All Hammocks

Other than that it was miscellaneous stuff...

Looks like a great casual hammock. I might go with something a little more durable/wider if you are planning on sleeping in it. Grand trunk sells something similar...I've used Grand Trunk's and if it is similar, you'll only find this fun for shorter periods of time (not a camping trip for instance).

For that price I would go with This

Grand Trunk is a well known company that has a great reputation. Also, once you factor in shipping, it's actually a couple bucks cheaper. Both of them have pretty lackluster hanging solutions, so you will probably want to pick up something different for either of them.

1. The perfect bed.
   
2. Bedtime snack
   
3. Jammies
   
4. Scared of the dark
   
5. Goodnight, baby.
   
   Bonus: I don't know, an ephelant.
   
   “She used to say she could taste sleep and that it was as delicious as a BLT on fresh French bread.”

you're competing against this at $20, so a $30 hammock would be pretty reasonable.

No way I would buy for $50 when I can get the aforementioned product for less than half the price.

edit: The camping/backpacking crowd might give you some great support if you can get a good price/weight value.

• The Yukon Outfitters tarp is normally $40 on Amazon. I bought two when they happened to be on Woot for $20. Good deal at $40, and a steal at $20. I use them as loaner tarps, and they work well.
  http://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Outfitters-MG-rainfly1-Hammock-Black/dp/B00EUHZ74I
  
  
• UST Hex Tarp is smaller than I would want, but it has been used by some hammockers. $30 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G2TXJ7O
  
  
• DIYing a polycro, tyvek, or dropcloth tarp has been done before for cheap. Search Hammockforums.
  
  
• Also, hardware store blue tarps have been used by many with price concerns.
  
  Good luck!

may I recommend getting a hammock like an ENO double nest. more comfortable than my bed, packs down small and light and its great for naps or reading a book in the park. only caveat is that you have to plan where you're sleeping with places that have trees.

I got a Honest Outfitters "Camping Hammock" and I love it. It's the same style as an ENO(I think it's either an ENO knockoff or an ENO rebrand) and for $30 you get the hammock and the straps. Great beginner hammock. https://www.amazon.com/Outfitters-Camping-Portable-Parachute-Backpacking/dp/B01LTEPYC4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502330785&sr=8-1&keywords=honest+outfitters+hammock

Check into Hennessy Hammocks. They're well built. I use an ENO but several friends have Hennessy and love them.

Here's one for reference
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0011KZREC/ref=redir_mdp_mobile

One of these chairs is super handy. Small, easy to carry, has a strap that you can wear like a backpack. Very useful when you're going to be in lines for a long time.

If you're willing to downsize to a 6 person (which, with only 2 people, really shouldn't be an issue), then I would check out the Eureka! Copper Canyon 6. I just picked it up on the suggestions of The Wire Cutter who rated it as the best tent for family and car camping.

It won't actually be utilized until next week, but I'm excited to try it out. Also got a couple of these cots to go in it, which are huge and will make it seem like walking into a hotel room with 2 twin beds.

I don't think the hammocks are provided, but there are thousands of them. I'd definitely recommend getting one of your own. It looks like the price has gone up since I bought it (about $50) and don't forget the straps!

Picked up a couple of these big beefy cots and sleeping pads for camping season and Forest. They just arrived at my house and are legit the size of a twin bed. A little spendy, but worth it due to the sheer amount of use we plan to get out of them. I also got tired of replacing air mattresses - which honestly cannot even TOUCH these guys for comfort. A+ 10/10 would recommend. I just saw that these are now about $15 cheaper on Amazon that what we paid - if you've been on the fence about getting a cot, make the switch; you won't regret it.


https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Outfitter-Camping-Folding-Included/dp/B000P6BGYI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1521390193&sr=8-1&keywords=teton+xxl


https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Outfitter-Sleeping-Perfect-Camping/dp/B000P6DJ8O/ref=pd_bxgy_468_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000P6DJ8O&pd_rd_r=A02VTWRAGPBYKS4A4QH2&pd_rd_w=R9aXw&pd_rd_wg=OLshT&psc=1&refRID=A02VTWRAGPBYKS4A4QH2

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0043AK0O4/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is a good model.

More comfy than sleeping on the floor — I've found it surprisingly resilient. As long as you don't have chronic back issues or something, I suppose... I am a monk, gather that into consideration.

Amazon has excellent return policy, so if you're feeling especially frugal, give it a go!

I own 2 Grand Trunk hammocks. They are fairly light and I love them. They are $15 on Amazon US right now. I'm 5' 11" 245 lbs and they are tall enough for me. You might find them on Amazon UK.

I've used them to 0 Celsius and been down right warm. I used two cheap sleeping bags at that temperature (1 under).

Here it is:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001AIBJNS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1449115851&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=grand+trunk+ultralight+hammock&dpPl=1&dpID=41QIIVsUVlL&ref=plSrch

Not necessarily UL.. But I've tried various different chairs/mats and always come back to this stool

I just bought 2 more for $7 on sale at leftlanesports. Super easy to strap to pack and perfect for what i need.

This is in no way a home.. it is a poorly designed bike tent trailer. I do not understand why he keeps saying "keeps people safe"? What about a tarp draped over a pvc and ply wood triangle keeps people safe? Something like this on a bike trailer would seem more useful for what he is going for.

I just do not see a practical application. (yes, I get that it could be nice for homeless, but I think a tent that could put put in a backpack would be much more useful, a bike trailer is big and bulky,not something that can be quickly packed up and carried around.

On the side of a person camping, either go with a normal tent, way lighter and compact!)

I have two of these cots that my family uses. Paired with a thermarest or similar pad they are surprisingly comfortable. The removable nightstand is a bonus as well. I weigh about 245 and have no problems. My son loves it and insists on bringing it to every campout (he is 10). When all 3 of us go I bring my Ultralite cot (which he usually claims too).

Coleman Pack-Away Cot

If you can get it to work then all the power to you. I just haven't had luck.

As far as rainfly and the elements I never had an issue when using a tarp and I've camped in some pretty wicked weather. You just have to make sure your coverage is very tight to the hammock and goes down far enough. I'm current using this rainfly it is often featured on woot for $25. I've had very good luck with it so far.

This is another budget UQ from Amazon. The reviews are decent, and I'm considering getting one until I save up for my dream UQ.

Like /r/AtomMass, I don't like spending money on the cheapo version when I still plan to buy a better one later, but if I have this second UQ it would mean I have a full backup setup for an unequipped friend.

I sleep in my Vivere Double all the time. I keep my house cold, so I made a lightweight underquilt from a down blanket and safety-pinned that to the underside, and then put this underquilt over that for the winter. It will come off for the summer. I sleep with a nice down-alternative comforter in a duvet on top. I vaccuum the hammock on the regular, and wash every six weeks or so. Very comfy.

I'm working on an improved method of attaching the home-made underquilt. If you sleep hot, you'll need less bundling than I do and can probably get away with just the snugpak.

I ended up using and keeping:

Hammock Bliss No-See-Um No More - The Ultimate Bug Free Camping Hammock - 100" / 250 cm Rope Per Side Included - Fully Reversible - Ideal Hammock Tent For Camping, Backpacking, Kayaking & Travel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002COCF3M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_FyoZBbZ7WENFZ

And $110 for a hammock, backpack, and some paracord is a bit much.

Hammock that folds into a little backpack type thing and has ties built into it $20

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Eagle Creek Hiking Backpack $27.50

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$47.50! You can buy one for yourself, and for your friend, and some McDonalds to eat together and still have a few pennies leftover! How nice!

But on the not being a dick side of things, cool backpack, but like most things on kickstarter, it's overpriced.

Just a heads up for those of you out there looking to buy, the same thing is on amazon for <$20 shipped:
http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332538165&sr=8-1

Not a thread crap, just a heads up. I know lots of those interested in Hammocks will have REI gift cards or something to make the deal worth it. (I checked the dimensions, they're the same)

I've got the ultralight as a "starter" hammock (it's on a stand in my living room), It's not bad at all.

Purchases so far:

• Esbit stove. Haven't had a chance to use it yet.
  
  
• Solar 5 Battery/Charger First use last weekend. Really love it so far.
  
  
• LMF "Spork"
  
  On the to-buy list, I'm hoping to get into ultralight + hammock camping for the summer:
  
  
• Exos 48 Pack
  
  
• Hennessy Hammock Expedition
  
  Also do you guys have any recommendations for a warm-weather sleeping bag? I live in GA so past April, the lows only get into the 60-70 range on a "cold" night. I'm almost leaning towards Hammock + just a warm camp blanket. Any thoughts?

I've slept on backpacking pads for years, but have recently purchased this (very large!) cot: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0073WJACW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The cot comes with a mattress, but I figured I'd double up, so I also got this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FE25VY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Slept on this setup at home just to try it out, and was incredibly comfortable. As good as (if not better than) my bed!

The second pad is realistically not needed. Perfectly comfy with just one (either) of the pads.

https://www.amazon.com/HONEST-OUTFITTERS-Portable-Parachute-Backpacking/dp/B01LTEPYC4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=32IATN4HFN8DB&keywords=honest+outfitters+hammock&qid=1563054960&s=gateway&sprefix=honest+outfi%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-3

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I have one of these (double size) and I fall asleep in it nearly every time I get it in it. I'm talking in the daytime when I'm not even sleepy. I'm currently working on space to set it up inside my house and sleep in it some. Make sure you lay at an angle in it. That's the most comfortable way for many people.

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I like the version with the tree straps. Very convenient for setting up.

Im assuming you mean this, you'd probably be very happy. One of my friends has one of those and I took a nice nap in it and it was well, pretty nice. Nothing spectacular but a solid choice.

Since you seem to be just starting out in hammocks i'd try a Dutch 11ft Wide hammock and try a Snugpack underquilt. I'd choose these as the Dutchware is the biggest hammock i know being sold today and is a high quality hammock especially for the price. The snugpack is my pick for a first time hammocker its just $40, so it won't break the bank but gets you a good tho heavy 3 season quilt. The snug pak likely won't cover all of you, so a small butt pad can be used effectively under your feet with a pillow under your head to give you full coverage.

I have this Outfitter XXL cot and this pad to go with it. Basically, I'd probably rather sleep on this than my actual bed. It's held up well so far. Probably used it 15 nights in 2 years, although the pad is a more recent acquisition. The rubber feet on the bottom are known to fail but you can get replacements. It folds up nicely although it is still pretty big folded up. There are other sizes that are similar in construction but I'm a big dude - 6'5" 300ish lbs.

Recently got into hammocking, and I had purchased this one. You can get a single or double, plus they are relatively cheaper than the popular high-end brand name ones that's (imo) not needed for just casual hanging.

Edit: Forgot to mention that it comes with straps, as opposed to rope, which is easier to hang for a beginner. Also, there are a variety of colors to choose from and the reviews aren't bad either!

I would honestly recommend a camping Cot instead of one of those. It will get you off the ground, they are lightweight and very portable. I made the switch a few years ago while camping in general and the difference is night and day. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-765353-Trailhead-Military-Camping/dp/B003696236/ref=sr_1_3?crid=21B80IV04I0NT&keywords=camping+cots+for+adults&qid=1564852279&s=gateway&sprefix=camping+cot%2Caps%2C209&sr=8-3

MOLLE is too tacticool for my liking. In any real survival scenario you would stick out like a military nut. It also adds a decent amount of weight to a pack. IMO you are better off with either a hiking pack if you're in the woods, or a standard Jansport/LL Bean Backpack if you are in the city.

That being said, if the contents are decent quality, this is a better price than you could do individually. For instance, this includes a hammock and rainfly. A yukon hammock on Amazon is $40 shipped, and the rainfly is $35 shipped. That is $75 right there, and the thing only costs $100.

I will probably pass on this though. I have most of this stuff (minus hammock) covered already.

P.S. You would think a "survival" bag would come with a fixed blade instead of a 3" folder.

Well if you think $19.99 is pretty expensive than I don't think I'm going to be of much help.

http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76

I bought two of these and plan to just put them next to each other. From my research most double cots are kind of just okay because they all have a bar going down the middle of them (like in between where you and your partner would be laying) So instead I just got two of the best single person cots I could find. These already come with a foam pad as well!!! https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-ComfortSmart-Cot/dp/B0073WJACW/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=cot&qid=1554217240&s=gateway&sr=8-3

I have to agree that I really don't understand quite what those tents are trying to accomplish.

If its sleeping on the ground that she can't handle, maybe look into simple cots like this, you could throw one into some giant family tent and then she'd have a raised bed and tons of space: http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Trailhead-II-Folding-Cot/dp/B003696236/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422050245&sr=8-1&keywords=cot&pebp=1422050244143&peasin=B003696236

You ought to be looking into cots. There's some large, heavy-duty ones that look quite comfortable. They can get pretty expensive though.

Another alternative is the grand trunk ultralight: http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Royal/dp/B001AIBJNS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1417706398&sr=8-5&keywords=hammock

It stuffs into a ball about the size of a quart.

I think a lot depends on your use. I usually set mine up at the beginning of a camp weekend, might relax in it a bit here and there, mostly my kids end up in it reading. I'd be more inclined to buy something more expensive with fly/net options if I were going to spend a significant amount of time in it though.

I respect what you want to do, but you might find it much more efficient and inexpensive to get two portable heavy duty cots that can be hung on the wall during the day.
This is what I have. Look at the various pictures on the left.
Just a thought?

https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Outfitter-Camping-Perfect-Included/dp/B000P6BGYI/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1496966590&sr=1-1&keywords=heavy+duty+cot

I bought this one for $20 on woot, they have deals all the time on it and its wonderful.

http://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Outfitters-MG-rainfly1-Hammock-Black/dp/B00EUHZ74I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418996273&sr=8-1&keywords=yukon+outfitters+tarp

For all the brothers talking about buying a bed: Sure, whatever. The thing is, a good cot or hammock costs less than a mediocre bed. This cot is what I sleep on for about a third of the year. It's very comfortable and actually feels longer than my standard twin bed. If you're willing to spend a bit more, a Hennessy Hammock is a good choice. They're meant for camping, but they're quite comfortable and for a poor man they'll be better than a bed stolen from a crackhouse.

Lightweight Hammocks are the shit. If it's nice out, you don't have to bring a tent, bedroll, sleeping bag, air mattress or any of that. You just hang your hammock, get in with a small pillow and put a blanket on top. If you're worried about rain, hang a tarp above you.

A solar powered lantern, lightweight hammock, Ultralight stove, and multi tool seems like a good start.

I wouldn't go for the Mosquito Hammocks, I tried the Expedition model out and it was a POS. It was uncomfortable and the workmanship was bad. It immediately started to fray at a poorly sewn hem along the zipper and the fraying fabric caught in the zipper. I felt the built in nylon webbing was much too tender and looked like crap in just a few uses.

I own a Hammock Bliss No-See-Um No More. I like it. I'm 6'2" and 230lbs.

I think if I was starting again I'd save up for a Warbonnet Blackbird. I have their Superfly tarp and love the craftsmanship in it. I'm saving now to pick one up.

I'm on amazon looking right now per another suggestion, and the air mattresses I'm seeing (I just typed 'air mattress' in the search) are all above $50, closer to $100.

I also thought about something like this instead since it's light and portable and folds up and would never get a hole in it and is definitely reusable.

Sorry the search is going a bit slower, I'm not home alone and I'm trying to avoid questions like 'why are you looking at air mattresses' so I have to keep changing screens.

I got this one: https://www.amazon.com/TravelChair-1389VBK-Slacker-Chair-Black/dp/B000FXVAYW/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=folding+stool&qid=1567188383&s=gateway&sr=8-14

Comfortable enough, small enough (mostly fit in my backpack; I added a carabiner to keep it secure), and sturdy enough for ~270 lbs

I'm not so sure about that [Edit: I misread and though you said incredibly expensive, but here's some data anyway]. It looks like it's just steel pipes that are bent to make a tube, and then welded. You can get 240 inches of steel pipe for ~$100. Taking the diameter of the ring to be 10 feet, each ring would need 2pi10 feet (377 inches), so each ring would need 1.5 (~$150) worth of tubing. You could get 3 lengths of tube (~$300), weld them together, cut them at the correct spot, then bend them with a pipe bender. Weld the three rings together (somehow), and you have a rough prototype for the structure. Add in some smaller pieces of pipe for stability between the rings, get some S hooks, and get three hammocks for ~$60.

Total price: ~$500 with the proper equipment (pipe bender, drill, welder). You could probably whip together a pipe bender fairly easily (plywood bent into the correct shape, and some leverage points for bending the tubing).

But now, when you're done with it, you have an unstorable gigantic ring hammock. Hopefully it doesn't turn into an eye sore.

We upgraded to cots this past year so no more waking up with your hip bone poking into the ground. Pro super comfortable built like a tank. Con takes up a lot of room we had to get a 10x13 tent to fit them us and our gear, but what the heck we needed a new tent anyway.
http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Outfitter-XXL-Camp/dp/B000P6BGYI/ref=zg_bs_3400811_17

I picked up a Hennessy hammock from amazon a few years ago when there was a good sale. I took this with me on an east to west tour across the northern states. for the first two weeks I stealth camped in the woods of nj,pa and ny, I only got caught once because a dog heard me setting up camp and brought his owner over to me. I got caught in a lot of big storms the first two weeks of june, this hammock kept me dry.

I also brought two poles and a ground tarp with me that allowed the hammock to be set up as a bivy on the ground when there weren't any posts or trees around.

When I stayed at a camp ground in Yellowstone, a couple sharing the hiking biking spot with me mentioned how stealthy it was, they said they could barely see it even though they knew it was there.

I ordered a Honest Outfitters Hammock a few weeks ago. Its still snowing here so I haven't really used it yet but looks very comparable to everything on the market and has good reviews. It comes with some straps too so its a good deal for $30

https://www.amazon.com/Outfitters-Camping-Portable-Parachute-Backpacking/dp/B01LTEPYC4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

this is what we have or the older version that is really close to it. It folds up and fits in a bag similar to those folding camp chairs. The two bars on the end have to be inserted when setting them up (they also fit in the carry bag). The center bar hangs low enough that it does not bother mine or my husband's backs. My dad however, bought the larger XL cabelas cot for when him and my mother camp b/c he is a bigger guy and heavy enough that the middle bar rubbed on his back all night. He loves the XL cot and has no issues with it. Both my husband and I use sleeping pads and sleep like a babies. We usually have our singles separated in the tent. Once you lay in the cot you sorta sink into it and the middle ridge will be higher than you think. It could work though depends on your sleeping pads.

We used to use these cots when car camping but now we use a trailer in the colder months and backcountry in the warmer months. My husband is 6'3" 225lbs. My brother in law is 6'5" 275lbs. Neither of them have had issues using these cots. We use them at home now for unexpected guests who need to crash and if the guest room is already in use. They worked great when we car camped using a big tent.

Coleman 2000020273 80 x 32-Inches Pack-Away Cot https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0043AK0O4/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_4aiJzbM1XXTC0

Someone mentioned a coleman cot being the best sleep he's had at roo.

I found this one on Amazon and will likely get it: https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000020273-32-Inches-Pack-Away-Cot/dp/B0043AK0O4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1525981027&sr=8-5

>The product must have an actual link to purchase. ಠ_ಠ

Guess I'll do it for OP. Purchase link for version shown in video. $144 on Amazon. A couple other models are on Amazon too, or I found a bunch of versions on the manufacturer website. Definitely going in my Amazon wishlist.

I'm curious to see what shows up in here (besides Hennessy and Warbonnet). I'm testing my own "ultralight, ultra-cheap" hammock setup, as I'm transitioning from tent camping and don't want to make a big splurge to find out I don't like it.

Right now, my kit consists of:

• $18 - Portable Parachute Nylon Fabric Travel Camping Hammock
  
• $22 - SOL Emergency Shelter Kit
  
• Plus a bit of paracord for a ridgeline to support the SOL tarp overhead
  
  I've used it for a few hours here and there in rain and sun and it's been great. Hoping to test my first hammock overnight soon. No bug net, obviously, but not bad for $40 and less than 2lbs.

My whole squad uses the portable nylon ones. https://smile.amazon.com/OuterEQ-Portable-Parachute-Camping-Hammock/dp/B00G3ZURYU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478273335&sr=8-1&keywords=hammock

They're cheap, pack up nice and small, and are easy to set up and take down.

There is always the Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock!! It has served me well.

Depends on the material of the footprint I would guess. I purchased a cheap [Yukon Outfitters Tarp](Yukon Outfitters Walkabout Rainfly (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EUHZ74I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7sTBCbQ0BQV7W) from Amazon and I have been very happy with it.

Sure, no problem!

My usual list...

On the rear rack, generally packed in a waterproof rollbag:

• Hammock Tent -- Hennesey Expedition A-Sym
  
  
• Quick-disconnect rope clips like this. Note that I'm light -- these won't hold you safely if you're over 200lbs..
  
  
• Sleeping bag -- I use a Suisse Sport because it was light and cheap
  
  
• mess kit, any collapsible aluminum one will do...
  
  
  I strap a waterproof backpack to the rollbag, containing:
  
  
• change of clothes per day (tshirt, jeans, underwear, socks)
  
  
• bodywash
  
  
• deodorant
  
  
• toothbrush
  
  
• small towel (a sham-wow type of towel works really well)
  
  
• food (instant noodles, crackers, kippers, trail mix, energy bars, etc... )
  
  
• dog's leash, poobags, kibble, dog hoodie (in case she gets cold)
  
  
• kindle (for reading things when I get settled for the night)
  
  
  Under the seat,
  
  
• hoodie
  
  
• riding jacket (if not wearing)
  
  
• riding gloves (if not wearing)
  
  
• rain suit (if not wearing)
  
  
• extra water
  
  
• any miscellaneous that didn't fit elsewhere...
  
  
  On the tunnel bag:
  
  
• dog harness
  
  
• dog (NOTE: dog is optional, but recommended)
  
  
  In the tunnel bag:
  
  
• Screwdriver
  
  
• 2x adjustable wrenches
  
  
• vice grip
  
  
• tire patch kit
  
  
• tire iron
  
  
• knife
  
  
• backpacking stove
  
  
• gas for above
  
  
• duct tape
  
  
• LED flashlight
  
  
• small first aid kit w/ insect repellent
  
  
• camelbak bladder for drinking
  
  
  I always bring more than that, but that's my bare minimum. On longer trips or trips that go through the night, I'll pack a gas can in case I have to go a couple of hundred miles between fill-ups.
  
  EDIT: OH GOD FORMATTING HOW DO I REDDIT WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN

This is gonna sound nuts, but get a hammock. Not the kind with two sticks, one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0042QYO9G?pc_redir=1410767820&robot_redir=1

You don't lay like the people in the picture, but on a slight 30° angle from midline. That gets you almost flat, with a slight incline on your feet and head. The science behind it is sound, and rocking yourself to sleep is amazing.

I used to toss and turn with neck and shoulder pain for 9 hours, and now I'm getting 6 hours of amazing sleep.

Not sure if this counts but I have a hammock on my Fun Things wishlist. Sleeping outside is an activity... right?

While I was recovering from a back injury, I brought this with me. Didn't have any issues with security and it saved my life. Was very, very light and easy to carry around.

This bug net will get you going

http://sport.woot.com/offers/no-fly-zone-mosquito-net-5?ref=ref%3Dcnt_wp_3_2

I have the snugpak under blanket, I modified it by sowing down the end tabs and running shock cord through to channel locks to close up the ends. Might compromise the structure after while but it was only $50, if it lasts a few seasons I'm good. I've slept in it on 30degree nights and been toasty.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0167IYGH6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1463963578&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=snugpak+under+blanket&dpPl=1&dpID=4185rftr-CL&ref=plSrch

Total would cost you $75ish, not bad to get you out in the woods ; )

Hammocks are the best, I just bought the Hennessy expedition. http://www.amazon.com/Hennessy-Hammock-HEN-EXPED-Expedition-A-sym/dp/B0011KZREC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346379427&sr=8-1&keywords=hennessy+hammock

This is what I use and I love it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0073WJACW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494648474&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=coleman+cot&dpPl=1&dpID=41INCjwqwGL&ref=plSrch

Sloth

Surprise me if I win?

Edit- oops sorry messed that up! link!

http://www.amazon.com/Texsport-14258-La-Paz-Hammock/dp/B000P9GZUA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404418400&sr=8-1&keywords=hammock

I have this XXL one with the pad. Camped on it 4x so far and it's great.

TETON Sports Outfitter XXL Camping cot - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000P6BGYI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_G02cBb7Y02DPE

Hammocks will range anywhere from $50 for a basic one to $200 for the great ones. The hammocks pictured in my OP are both made by Hammock Bliss

I believe most hammocks are made from some sort of Nylon material. Mine is rated for 350lbs.

When staying overnight, I bring my tarp in my pannier's too. Check out my full setup Hammock + Tarp

You should take a look over in /r/Hammocks I discovered it one day while looking into backpacking subreddits and have been hooked ever since.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EUHZ74I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497485987&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=yukon+outfitters&dpPl=1&dpID=41vQiuwW1UL&ref=plSrch

This tarp is great for the price

Yep, I use an underquilt during the cold season. I didn't need to splurge on an underquilt that would be used indoors, so am using this one from Amazon, which is more than warm enough.

This is a spreader bar hammock not a mayan hammock most commonly seen on this subreddit. the spreader bar negates most benefits of a hammock; it makes it weigh more (4 lbs. opposed to about 2 for a mayan hammock with bug net and tarp), it will topple easily, and probably leave you with a sore back in the morning. This hammock setup also costs $140, for this price you could buy similar mayan setup like this one or choose from many other options.

I would recommend a collapsible folding stool, at least. Like this one It's less expensive, less obvious, and can fit in a backpack.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FXVAYW/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apap_IhhyYLYL8r5rI


Ive never put a link on reddit before, But if that works thats the chair. It was super usefull.

Very similar hammock, cheaper with MANY more positive reviews. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G3ZURYU/ref=gno_cart_title_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3CXW7P19VWEQK

Maybe a tent cot? You'd have to measure to make sure it would fit, since the legs aren't at the ends.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BH46MU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_XKDUAb2BDWG9W

We have those ultralight chairs like this.
And it is so worth it on long backpacking trips. It’s one of my luxury items I make sure to take.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y2A6SBO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_5602AbVPVSS6W

Do you one better here's a link to the amazon page |X and here's a link to the list I found out about it on |X

Have you considered buying two hammocks?

They are very portable and very comfortable.

I got this cot for Christmas, and it is WAY more beefy than I had anticipated. I guess I should've paid closer attention to the pic of the 7 guys standing on it, 'cause it is a beast. There's room for me (6'1 220lbs) and my dog (90lbs), and I imagine it'd work for 2 people cuddling up, but definitely not 2 people side-by-side.

Hammock

Underquilt

Rainfly

Would you say this is correct? Would you recommend the red/grey one for $25 and change?

The Snugpak underquilt is on sale with prime for $31 on amazon if you are interested. https://www.amazon.com/Snugpak-Hammock-Blanket-Travelsoft-Filling/dp/B0167IYGH6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487611727&sr=8-1&keywords=snugpak+underquilt

Order these instead, slightly cheaper and a few more inches square space wise. Comes with a table too!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0043AK0O4

I have this one made by Moon Lence

Caught it on sale for like $22, and it's been a pretty solid investment so far. 2lbs (0.91kg if you hate freedom), quick setup, sturdier than it looks. Only complaint is the feet are small so if the ground is even a little damp, it's sinking in. I'm also only 5'8" (1.72m), and I do think if you're much taller than that it'll cut down on the comfort.

A stool would be lighter, faster, and cheaper. But I like to stretch my legs out and lean back at camp

Well, whether you want to bring a hammock or not is up to you, but last year when we were out camping (Not at EF mind you), my girlfriend realized she forgot her hammock, so we went to an outdoor store and picked one of these up and it worked just fine for the weekend. The straps and fabric weren't as nice as the eno brand, but it served its purpose. So if you want one, there are cheaper alternatives for a one-time use!

yup to each his own.

If someone wanted they could just keep a $17 lightweight camping stool in their bag and have a similar set up and save ~$150 over a clic gear/attachments. But I plan on using mine for many years to come, so I don't mind shelling out some more money to make my rounds more convenient.

You can find them if you search on Amazon like the other guy said. Just look for "backpacking chair". As an example there is this moon lence chair.

They are likely all just rebranded Chinese chairs from the same maker. You can find basically identical chairs on aliexpress.com for a little cheaper.

Since it is sold out on REI, it is on Amazon for perhaps a few dollars cheaper at $19.95.

In addition, I have this hammock and as an inexperienced hammocker it is wonderful, very compact (not sure on weight but it fits in a bag that just about fits in my [small] hand). I've been using it on my back porch in the Southeast, but plan on taking it out as a sleeping apparatus as soon as I can get a reasonable shelter.

If you have the room to bring it (they take up a decent amount of space folded up) you can't beat something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0073WJACW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_3.cHAb2NEA6NB
My wife and I each have our own, you can store your suitcase underneath it so you have more room in the tent and it's way more comfortable than any of my airbeds.

They tend to be too short and narrow. Many do not come with ridge lines and the suspensions can be less than ideal. That being said, [ I started with this one and it's ok] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002COCF3M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

This, it is very efficient on space when it is packed up, so you’ll have more car space to pack other things.

Damn, good find. The pry bar and hammer seem like they could come in use.

Edit: So with the extra 20 bucks, maybe a travel hammock and rope to string up into trees?

http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1395671953&sr=1-2&keywords=hammock

Do you mean a tent cot like this one? https://www.amazon.com/Kamp-Rite-Tent-Original-Size-Green/dp/B000BH46MU/ref=sr_1_5?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1505342705&sr=1-5&keywords=Tent+Cot

I never thought about putting a cloth on it... How did that work out?

I was able to get this tarp for $20 on woot, but its sold out on that site. still, its a deal on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Outfitters-Walkabout-Rainfly/dp/B00EUHZ74I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467162722&sr=8-1&keywords=yukon+outfitters+tarp

Good call on the Amazon source.. It's coming up at $17.43 right now for green, which might be even cheaper when you factor in shipping.

My #1 choice for budget rainfly would be the [Yukon Walkabout] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EUHZ74I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xqtFzb9KAWJ9A) it's $40 and 14 ounces, about as good as it gets for the money.

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A hammock makes everyones life better

Ty for the contest!

It's something similar to this though I'm not sure it's the same brand. Hope this helps!

Nope it wasn't expensive at all! Here is one that looks like what he uses.

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000020273-Pack-Away-Cot/dp/B0043AK0O4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485365291&sr=8-1&keywords=coleman+cot

My girlfriend and I each used one of these last year and they were great. It's obviously not the perfect cot but you should be exhausted when you need it and it's good enough for that.

ENOs are overpriced. You'll get the same quality off Amazon or eBay for a LOT less:

https://www.amazon.com/Balichun-Parachute-Ultralight-Multifunctional-Backpacking/dp/B01LY91R61/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483464240&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=hammock&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/OuterEQ-Portable-Parachute-Camping-Hammock/dp/B00G3ZURYU/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1483464272&sr=8-7&keywords=hammock

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hammock-Ultra-Light-Portable-Camping-Travel-Nylon-Outdoor-Green-CAQRC-/181782829216?hash=item2a5319d8a0:g:RRwAAOSw2xRYPouG

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hammock-Person-Portable-Parachute-Nylon-Fabric-Swing-Bed-Hanging-Camping-Outdoor-/182182021850?var=&hash=item2a6ae50ada:m:mO_-0g53txFtM8YbtwcRpZQ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-Person-Travel-Outdoor-Camping-Tent-Hanging-Hammock-Bed-With-Mosquito-Net-/162227171750?hash=item25c57e31a6:g:sHYAAOSwLF1X81zC

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-Person-Travel-Outdoor-Hanging-Hammock-Bed-Camping-Tent-Mosquito-Net-W0N5-/371819878574?hash=item56923118ae:g:CXsAAOSwiONYQRbg

If you have the room, the best sleep I ever had in a tent was on a cot. It was a friend's, but I'd bet it was something similar to this: https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-765353-Trailhead-Military-Camping/dp/B003696236

This would be really cool. It's green and it would get me out in nature, so it's kind of a double whammy.

Look up camping stools. Something like this might work:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B009WH1920/ref=mh_s9_acsd_top_b2f5SrD_c_x_1_w?pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-3&pf_rd_r=R90WDR2XNHVMNHA4YA9T&pf_rd_t=30901&pf_rd_p=86517dce-7788-59d9-b324-7bcb9340ec2b&pf_rd_i=2439398011

I love hammocks! I use a cheap, $20 single person hammock I ordered off Amazon with some tree slings. It came with 'S' hooks, so I just replaced those with some heavy duty carabiner. It's held up just as well as my dad's $80 hammock. For mosquitoes, I use a cheap mosquito net. It doesn't work as well as his expensive mosquito cover, but his complaint is it gets too hot under it.

This is the chair that I use, it collapses and straps very nicely on the side of my backpack.

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009WH1920/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Just bought on of these, 45 bucks. I figure I can DIY it a bit to get it warmer and lighter.
https://www.amazon.com/Snugpak-Hammock-Blanket-Travelsoft-Filling/dp/B0167IYGH6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481755317&sr=8-1&keywords=underquilt

Nice! I was looking into the Eureka Solitaire 1-person but I saw those complaints and decided to keep searching. Something that did seem interesting was the Kamp-Rite Tent Cot but then I saw how it folded up.

You want $40.00 for one, I can do it for $35.61

Backpack

Camping hammock

And the only "trade off" is that I can use my backpack for things other than carrying my hammock, and my hammock can come out of my back pack....

Anybody that wants to send these guys $40 bucks for this, send me $37.00 and I'll arrange the shipping for your new backpack and hammock.

Seriously... combining these things for personal use may be something worth trying but as a viable product this just doesn't work.

It's one made by Snugpak. I got it when they were around $35 and I wanted something quick and easy. Good for spring and fall, but I wouldn't trust it in the winter.

NAH get a cane and if someone still doesn't give you a seat, what about picki g up a seat like this?

https://www.amazon.com/TravelChair-1389VBK-Slacker-Chair-Black/dp/B000FXVAYW?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_3

or you can get one that is more portable for 18 bucks on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Trunk-Ultralight-Hammock-Forrest/dp/B001AIHB76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375983548&sr=8-1&keywords=hammock

$16 on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001AIHB76/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1421173806&sr=8-1

You can get it on Amazon here for $153.

Or you can spend $30 on a comperable chair and not waste your money

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Trailhead-Cot/dp/B003696236?keywords=cot&qid=1537984796&sr=8-6&ref=sr_1_6

Try out a cot instead, man. No inflation needed... ready to-use in two minutes and totally off the floor. Prolly cheaper than any air mattress too

https://www.amazon.com/TravelChair-1389VBK-Slacker-Chair-Black/dp/B000FXVAYW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498139782&sr=8-1&keywords=compact+stool

I have one of these at work for nap time:

https://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Outfitter-Camping-Included/dp/B000P6BGYI/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=teton+cot&qid=1563354977&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Its all on you now.