Reddit mentions: The best hiking backpacks & bags

A lot depends on the style you're looking for. I'll also say that security in a bag is a myth. There are things to discourage certain behavior, but ultimately a bag should never be seen as a secure container. (after all it can always be cut)

What I chose.

I traveled for about a month in Europe staying in hostels. Even though it was only a month I could have traveled for about a year (adding only a tablet) with the bag/things I brought.

Osprey Farpoint 40 Travel Backpack - $150 (Discontinued)

[Osprey Farpoint 40 Travel Backpack

• $160 (New Version)](https://smile.amazon.com/Osprey-Farpoint-40-Travel-Backpack/dp/B014EBM3KA/)
  
  I love this bag but it might not be the single best option for you. It's low profile, turns into a duffle bag (more about that later) and although it doesn't look like a school backpack, it doesn't standout like this either.
  
  The reason I love that it turns into a duffle bag is because theres a semi hidden velcro pocket in the bottom where the cover rolls into. This is a great place to sew or velcro a small zippered wallet or bag to store extra money or valuables. It's not secure as much as its hidden. This won't help you if they steal the whole bag, but it will help you if they just ransack the place and steal from the open compartments.
  
  
  Other Options
  
  There are a ton of other options. I suggest watching the VagaBrothers Video - How to Choose the BEST Travel BACKPACK | Pros & Cons Minimalist Backpack Review and Travel Tips: Packing Hacks, Tips & Essentials
  
  
  The F Stop bags look great, but are pretty pricy. Depending on what lenses you're bringing (18-55mm kit lens VS 70-200mm VR f2.8) it may or may not be worth it for size and configurability. I personally bought a Sony a6000 and left my big DSLR at home. That was actually a really good choice for the type of trip I did, but if I was going for a year (like you are) I understand needing the big camera. You might want to get camera/lens inserts like this (but not necessarily that one, I just clicked on the first one I saw on amazon) to store and protect those other lenses.
  
  Hope that helps.
  
  
  The following is copy and pasted from an email I sent to family friends traveling abroad. It gives links and ideas for things that help when traveling minimally.
  
  
  
  
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• 2 Mini cologne bottles - Well worth it if you are doing carry on only, or if you like to bring more than one scent with you. Depending on how much you use I find that a bottle filled up lasts about 1.5-2 weeks if you are using 2-3 sprays a day. http://smile.amazon.com/MagnaKoys%C2%AE-Perfume-Cologne-Sprayers-Overcaps/dp/B00UKHLBEW
  
  
• World power adapter - http://smile.amazon.com/elago%C2%AE-Tripshell-TRAVEL-ADAPTER-Built/dp/B005AF0C2G Awesome adapter. A lot nicer than the 50 mini adapters you have to piece together like legos.
  
  
• Power strip - https://smile.amazon.com/Monster-MP-OTG400-BK-Outlets/dp/B000F9YN2M I never used this. I wouldn't get it unless you knew you needed it. They are good ways to make friends at airports though, as plugs are always in high demand and few people will say no to letting you free up a plug or two.
  
  
• Battery pack - (updated version) https://smile.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-20100-Capacity-Technology/dp/B00X5RV14Y/ OR https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00Z9QVE4Q While there are cheaper and smaller ones, this is the perfect size and capacity if you are bringing a couple or more devices. This will charge a phone many times over. It's especially handy if you want to leave it charging in the hotel then bring it with you during the day after it's charged.
  
  
• Compressed charcoal deodorizers - http://smile.amazon.com/Moso-Natural-Purifying-Deodorizer-Eliminator/dp/B0099K6OVQ Great to throw in shoes or bags that start to get smelly. Useful in hostels.
  
  
• Microfiber towel - http://smile.amazon.com/Sunland-Microfiber-Compact-Sports-Towels/dp/B00MGGYZVG Very useful for hostels as most will charge you to use towels
  
  
• Tripod - http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00D76RNLS/ paired with a phone mount (https://smile.amazon.com/AUKEY-Samsung-Smartphones-Adapter-Monopod/dp/B01LYN73TQ) this can be used to hold the phone on long flights. Really nice for watching movies on the plane or waiting for a train.
  
  
• Roll up 1L water bottles - http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00BI9AM3C/ Great for airplanes (no longer need to buy water after TSA).
  
  
• I packed all of my clothes into cubes and a flat packer. http://smile.amazon.com/Eagle-Creek-Pack-It-Starter-Set/dp/B00F9S84D8
  
  
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  Security:
  
  Since I was traveling alone, and in hostels, security was a slightly bigger deal for me. I carried my passport on my person or locked in my hostel (many had lockers or metal lock boxes).
  
  At all times I had a photo copy of my passport and everything in my wallet, some local currency, and a print out of all the embassies in the area. (Attached to this email.) I printed this double sided and had multiple copies with me.
  I told my mom, "At any time I want to be able to have everything stolen, but still have a way back home.” My credit card will do cash transfers internationally and also includes a continuous travel insurance package.
  
  I would highly suggest making three copies of your passport and all credit cards and other ID you are taking. One lives on your person when your passport is stored elsewhere (hotel, for example), one lives in your luggage (preferably hidden/tucked away), and one stays with a trusted friend or family member that will be in the States for the duration of your trip. If anything happens they will be able to assist with proving your identity to the State Department, thus speeding the process along. I suggest keeping some cash tucked in your passport (along with that embassy list), your copy of the passport in the luggage, and then the copy of the passport and embassy list in your wallet. At this point you have three possibilities of things to grab to prove your identity/pay for a cab/tell you where to go.
  
  While this may seem a little overboard, I find it doesn't take that long to set up and helps greatly should anything bad happen. Also consider registering with the State Department. This helps them track Americans abroad should anything happen, and also gives you alerts, should anything happen. https://step.state.gov/step/
  
  
  
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  Tech Tips
  
  I also used a service called Line2 to give me a US phone number to call from and receive calls to while I was away. I have T-Mobile that gives me included unlimited international data. As long as I had a 4g signal, I also had a phone I could make and receive calls on. Google Voice and Skype would also do this. Do be aware of how much international data costs. Wifi is easy to find, but I suggest using a VPN on your phone or laptop for any web surfing. And even with the VPN I would not suggest logging into any financial (bank, etc) while abroad unless you are on a trusted wifi network (aka, friends).
  
  For maps you can download parts of Google Maps by searching the city and clicking “Download." This should work on Android and iOS versions of Google Maps.
  
  

Yo fellow baseball lover! Firstly, I hope you enjoy your brief stay in SF.

Secondly, I hope you realize the time and distance that SFO is from AT&T Park. As shitty as it sounds, it's likely going to be well over an hour each way, so at least 2 hours total in transit IF YOU'RE LUCKY. SFO also tends to have pretty crappy TSA lines to go through as well, but going through the International Terminal will help out a lot with that.

Thirdly, AT&T does not have a bag check area. They have a wonderful FREE Bike Check area because that is super cool to offer, but nothing for oversized bags. Fret not! SFO offers a baggage check for a fee of which I do not know.

>Baggage storage is exclusively available at the Airport Travel Agency, located on the Departures/Ticketing Level of the International Terminal, near the entrance to Gates G91-G102. The Airport Travel Agency is open daily from 6:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. No reservations are required for baggage storage. All baggage is x-rayed prior to storage. Rates are assessed per each 24 hour period that an article is in storage (articles in storage for less than 24 hours will be subject to the 24 hour rate), and vary according to the size of the object. Please contact the Airport Travel Agency at 650.877.0422 or CF.Airport@gmail.com for additional information.

OR!!!!! You could check in your bag for your flight super super early. But I'm guessing that you are talking about your carry-on bag rather than a checked bag. If that is the case, then I might suggest using a soft-framed pack and bringing a second frameless backpack to use to spread your load so that both will fit AT&T's parameters I, personally, use (this lovely little stow-away backpack for almost all of my secondary pack / carry-on travel needs. If all else fails, you can meet me at my work (PM me, please) which is a 10 minute walk from 16th street BART station and a very quick LYFT or Taxi ride to and from the park (less than 2 miles, or less than 3.21869 KM). I will be working from 10-6:30 pm that day, and since it is a 1pm start, that should cover the entire game. If for whatever reason you would like to come pick up after I am off of work, I can easily arrange for another one of my co-workers to watch and get your gear back to you. This would add an extra $4.04 US dollars each way if you choose Lyft Line (I highly suggest it), so at least $8.08 USD if you are using Lyft both to and from the park to my work, but the bag check would be 100% free. Plus I may throw in a free local beer just for shits n' giggles, if you're into that kind of thing.

Otherwise, I don't really know any other options. There's not really a check-in option around the area. Like, not even a hotel that you could faux-check in bags at. China Basin is a (now) friggin beautiful place with only the park, apartments, and businesses in the area, but was certainly not built up to be the SF destination zone, which is much of its' charm.

Anyway, if you have any questions or further inquiry, either PM or respond to this message, and I hope you're able to make it a to a game in the most beautiful park in the MLB (and, truly, in all of sports).

	

	

	

> # Biking to the (Valley of the) Moon: Atacama Desert, Chile
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> San Pedro de Atacama, a small desert town, was my entry point into Chile after crossing the border from Bolivia. Big blue skies and dry desert air characterize the Atacama Desert – the world’s driest, non-polar desert that covers the northern tip of Chile. Though I was recovering from a three-day Jeep trip in the Bolivian Salt Flats, I wanted to make the most of my (limited) time in the Atacama Desert. There are several tours you can book in San Pedro de Atacama, including star gazing, horseback riding, and ATV tours. I decided to forgo the organized tours and opted for a more economical and independent option – renting a bicycle and riding out to the Valley of the Moon.
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> You won’t have any problem renting a bicycle at the many tour agencies lining the scenic streets of San Pedro de Atacama. Depending on how far you want to go, you can rent for a half day (typically under 6 hours) or a full day. The hostel I was staying at had bikes for rent, so I figured that to be the most convenient option. I think it costs around $10 for a half day rental.
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> It’s about 8 miles from San Pedro De Atacama to the Valley of the Moon. Most of the trip is on fairly flat and paved road. You’ll leave San Pedro de Atacama and bike on the highway for a half mile or so before taking a left towards the access road that leads to the Valley of the Moon. After a few miles, you’ll come to the ranger station where you have to pay a small entry fee ($5 or so). Continue onwards for another few miles until you get to a checkpoint. After the guard checks your ticket, your destination awaits just around the bend…ready to welcome you to its otherworldly terrain.
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> Welcome to the Valley of the Moon! The road is no longer paved, but is still comfortable to ride on. Here are a few places you shouldn’t miss at the Valley of the Moon:
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> The Salt Caves will be your first stop in the Valley of the Moon. There’s a trail that leads into narrow salt caves that are pitch black and require you to navigate on all fours at a few junctions. As I peered into the dark cavern, I second guessed myself as to if this actually part of the trail. I peered into my daypack and prayed that I had brought my headlamp…and there it was. Phew. All alone with no one else in sight, I entered the cave hoping nothing would go wrong. Ducking, diving, and crawling through the passageways revealed incredible rock formations and views atop the cave. Just watch your head. I highly recommend bringing your bike helmet into the caves. It saved me from what would have been few painful bruises on my noggin.
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> Blue skies, no clouds, and an intense sun. Welcome to the desert. Make sure you apply and reapply sunscreen regularly. A sunhat, bandana, etc. would be helpful to ensure further protection from the sun. And a pair of fresh shades, of course.
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> #### What are your favorite bike trips? Comment below!
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> #### Enjoy the trip!
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It can be an expensive hobby, and it's best to spend the extra cash now to save you later. I'm on mobile so I apologize about links, but this is my basic set up. It's not the most ultralight gear, but I'm getting there.

My sleeping pad is very comfortable and lightweight. I've used this on top of rocks and slept like a baby. You could alternatively get the static V original and save $10.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00LGAQ7NW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499891370&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=klymit+v2+sleeping+pad&dpPl=1&dpID=41rAtpRoKHL&ref=plSrch

My pack in my opinion is the top of the line. It has amazing comfort and holds more equipment than I need. Osprey is also a trusted brand that stand behind their products, your bag goes wrong, call there customers service and have it repaired. Alternatively you can go for a brand like Teton sports where a bag can cost in the $100 range and cheaper, but again, that bag might be ruined within two years and you have to buy a new one, versus your Osprey that will last a lifetime.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MN17Y3A/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499891485&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=osprey+65+atmos+ag&dpPl=1&dpID=41Gds7xXYJL&ref=plSrch

My tent is on the bulkier side of things at a whopping 4 pounds 12 ounces 😑. As you can see it's currently selling under $100. Besides the weight, the tent is very durable and does not leak water. The ventilation is not the best, but it is comfortable.

https://m.dickssportinggoods.com/p/kelty-circuit-2-person-tent-16kelucrct2pbckpccat/16kelucrct2pbckpccat

The sleeping bag. If there is one thing I need, it's a comfortable sleeping bag to wrap my body in. This bag is extremely lightweight and just over 1 pound. Warm, comfortable, and content.

http://www.hammockgear.com/burrow-econ-30/

My hiking boots are a little outdated and I was not able to find them online. They are timberland waterproof hiking boots. The most comfortable at this point, and could use replacing, but they were originally great. If I remember correctly I bought them for just over $100.

My setup alone is well exceeding $500 and because I went cheap with a few things (tent) and realize the difference those 4 pounds make, I'm now in the process of buying a newer, lighter tent. Those are just your main essentials as well, you need cooking utensils, first aid, purification, etc.

I hope I am not discouraging you, backpacking is amazing, but I want you to save up and take your time to get the right equipment so you can enjoy nature at its fullest and not feel miserable because your pack is crap and your back hurts and your tent gets a hole from a stick on the ground the first day. Best of luck, live camp.

If i were in your position here are the things I would buy, I am going to go over budget, but I am going to include everything that (i think) you would need, in terms of clothes that would fit into a jansport:

2 pairs of Exofficio underwear, wait to buy them on sale for $15 or less, preferably 12. If you could spend more, buy merino wool instead.

A good pair of shorts. Something you can wear everyday, waterproof, breathable. I'd recommend these [Patagonia] (http://www.rei.com/product/811170/patagonia-baggies-long-shorts-mens) shorts.

This hat. Good to keep the sun off your skin and sweat off your head.

A good pair of sandals. Chaco is a great brand and they will last you a long time.

Good pair of trail shoes. NB's Minimus trail line may or may not be what you need, but what I would recommend from what I know. ($100)

2 pairs of merino wool socks. Same reason as to the underwear. You can wear them more than one day at a time, quickly dry, and are antibacterial. Smartwool has great offerings.

2 pairs of merino wool shirts. Icebreaker is great and is a little bit less than smartwool. Get it in a lighter color like their grey.

These pants. They should be able to do everything that you would need them to do quite easily.

A good rain jacket. Something that can pack down easily and you can wear in colder temperatures and warmer ones for when you just need to deal with the rain. This seems like it would do the job great.

You should be able to get all of this stuff into that small jansport bag. Total cost should be around $675, but you could probably find some of the stuff for a little bit less and save some more money.

With your $250 I would get the underwear, socks, hat, shorts, and jacket.

Have fun on your trip!

Hello, It's great that you're looking to get your son set up with some great gear.
I don't know anything about that pack but I'd like to give you some options that I am familiar with.

Budget options-
Teton Sports Explorer I have been out backpacking several times with a friend using this pack and it is an excellent value. It has enough room for a trip to Philmont and is comfortable to wear/ does a decent job placing the weight on the hips. This is what we really want out of a backpacking backpack is to use the frame to place the weight of the pack on the hips and not the shoulders.

The more expensive bags will be lighter and more comfortable. Osprey is probably the most recommended bag right now and for good reason. If you head over to r/appalachiantrail you'll see a ton of them. This Osprey Atmos would be excellent for a scout.

Other major brands that make good products are Kelty, REI Co-op, and Gregory all make good bags. You can also check out the bags sold at the official Boy Scout online store Scoutshop.org. I would recommend a bag in the size neighborhood of 65L for the kind of camping scouts usually do.

I hope he has a great experience.

First off; congrats on landing what is essentially my dream job.

Those Dueter packs that mightycarrot suggested are absolutely amazing. Though I never owned one myself, my late friend swore up and down by them and I can vouch just from the trips we took together. However, if you're looking for more of a budget pack, the Teton 4000 has been my best friend after I replaced an old Osprey pack. I've had it last two years and haven't had one glaring issue with it and it is still as sturdy as the day I bought it.

http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpack/dp/B00167TGII/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367568364&sr=8-1&keywords=teton+backpack

All I can say about specialized gear is learn the area and take all the advice you can from veterans who are familiar with it. Season, terrain, water/food availability, fire restrictions etc. will determine much of your gear.

There are, however, five things that you ALWAYS should have on you when trekking into a wilderness area:

-A solid fixed blade knife, preferably full tang (Don't skimp here, a good $60+ survival blade is invaluable when your life depends on it)
-Some type of steel container cup (no plastic, needs to be able to withstand a fire)
-A fair amount of cordage (100ft+).. tar covered bank line or paracord preferably as they are the most durable and multipurpose
-A decent sized ferro rod and the skills to use it (not always "sure-fire" but will still work when wet and will outlast dozens of bic lighters)
-A small first aid kit

These five items should NEVER leave your pack no matter where you go. Even if you start venturing into the ultra-light community, these five are extremely hard to make or find in nature. They will save your life if things don't end up as planned. They also will only add 3 -4 lbs maximum to your load and you will never wish you didn't bring them along.

Sometimes, I feel like people within the backpacking community can get too comfortable with their abilities and their frequented areas and skimp on gear in favor of less weight. Never opt out of essential gear and always stay up to date on the skills necessary to use them.

Combined with a pack that fits you well, appropriate attire, good physical fitness and the company of an experienced companion, I'm sure you'll catch on very quickly.

Stay safe and best of luck, friend.

I don't have any experience with LL Bean gear, but I don't see anything wrong with the those items.

When I started I intentionally bought cheap gear knowing it wasn't going to be as light or as durable as a backpacker would ideally want. I figured I might as well try some basics out before I committed to spending money on high quality gear.

The pack you list looks pretty small - only 2400-ish cubic inches. That could be a tight fit. I started out with this guy. Its an ok but certainly not "good" pack. Its not super durable or super comfortable, but it was inexpensive and it got me through my first 3 trips until I decided I liked backpacking. After that third trip I went to an REI and got help trying on lots of different packs before laying down a good chunk of cash on my Gregory.

I still use this tent. Although a couple pounds heavier than the one you list its worked out well for me and its less than half the price.

You'll also need some other gear to do overnights. REI has a good list here. Highlights include hydration (something to carry water and a water filter / pump / tablets / whatever), food storage, headlamp / lighting, etc.

Do you live anywhere near an REI? Along with having great staff to chat with about what might want to buy they occasionally have "garage sales" where they have returned / used items at crazy discounts.

Nice thorough review. +1.

I have the similar AK rig, and I have to admit, I wish I had gone with a 100% MOLLE rig.

I did a chunk of research the other day, and I think personally I'd have to go with a waist-loaded option. For whatever reason, having straps on my shoulders makes it annoying to really couch a blaster in my shoulder, on top of the straps -- don't ask me why, it's just always... Not quite right.

That said, if I had to rebuy my rig, I'd spend a bit more and get this setup:

• Condor Gen 2 BattleBelt + Condor Duty Belt
  
• Condor Dual AK Mag Pouch or Tri AK Mag Pouch
  
• Single-Point Sling
  
  I'd probably go with a double pouch on each side, carrying 8x18 + 2 or 3 in/on the blaster + sidearm + holdouts. More than enough.
  
  Everything's on the waist, out of the way so you keep utmost in upper-body maneuverability. Everything's also off to the side, so you can go prone/flat against walls pretty easily on either side, whereas the chest rig made bellying up to a wall less than ideal.
  
  If I wanted to go for extras, I'd want to look at a Mag Recovery Dump Pouch for one side.
  
  For those that want the shoulder support, you can get an H-Harness
  
  Now for the really crazy research that I did.
  
  I considered adding hydration of some kind, which gets a bit tricky for waist packs. The slickest hydration pack I could probably find was the Condor Hydro Harness which actually fits nicely with all of their gear -- but you need to have a compatible chest rig to use it properly... Which means things on the shoulders. Even more cobbled together solutions, such as an H-Harness + Hydration carrier has the same problem, although less so.
  
  Fortunately, there are solutions! MOLLE-compatible 'side' hydration pouches, such as the Source Kangaroo 1L or the Blackout! Side Hydration Pouch would take the water off the back. 1L is a lot less, as most backpacks are 2, 2.5, or even more in capacity. The downside of any hydration pouch is twofold in this case:
  
  

1. You don't have any good way to keep the water line near your mouth, since you lack shoulder straps.
   
   
2. Cleaning bladders is a pain!
   
   That said, Source does make some pretty awesome extras, both of which seem really useful the former of which may even work to deal with problem #1 in this case.
   
   There's another alternative to this, too, though! I personally find my Nerf habit totally niche, so I always feel a bit guilty getting something JUST for Nerf... But Nalgene bottles or the like are really useful otherwise, so that's always a nice option.
   
   

• Getting just a MOLLE Nalgene carrier or generic bottle pouch would work fine. Solid Nalgene bottles have pros and cons though. Pros: it's rigid and strong, which means it takes impact and wear very well. Cons: It's hard, so it doesn't collapse, and it's generally more bulky.
  
• You can get soft Nalgene Canteens in 32oz or 48oz and put them in some sort of suitable pouch. I imagine the 32oz canteen would fit rather well in the standard bottle carrier, although I don't know how well the bottle carrier collapses, making the presence of a canteen possibly moot.
  
• Turn any Nalgene (or smaller water bottles, if the usual 32oz is too large) into a hydration carrier with a straw adapter. Popular ones include SmarTube or Source SNEP, both of which include a Nalgene-compatible 63mm wide-mouth adapter, and the Condor Nalgene carrier has a straw pass-thru in the top. Obviously, the downside to this is that the thing you're drinking from generally needs to be upright to ensure constant water supply. Not that big of an issue, but it does limit canteen pouch options to ones that will hold the thing upright.
  
  I personally think I'd lean towards the straw option, as it's easier to clean and more universally usable, although I'm not entirely certain I'd like the bulk of a Nalgene bottle on my waist and the slosh factor, both of which are lesser issues when dealing with a bladder. Maybe I'll try and find a suitable pouch for a 32oz Nalgene canteen and get the SNEP...
  
  EDIT: Malformed link.

I just wrote this for kids in our Scout troop; feel free to use whatever you see fit:

If the new Scouts are going to be buying a pack to take on practice hikes for the West Point Camporee or the Acadia trip, maybe they could use some advice before they hit the store.

Some folks may think “Buy once, cry once” and that’s fine. REI makes good stuff, plus the premium brands like Osprey are available in sizes to fit even little guys.

Other families may want to spend less: your Scout might be headed for a growth spurt, or might be hard on their stuff, or might not be guaranteed to stay in Scouts for ever. In that case, there are some less-expensive ways to buy a pack.

WHERE TO BUY

Discount sporting goods companies include Campmor, Sierra Trading Post, Moosejaw, and REI’s own outlet (the Garage). This offers lower prices on good gear that’s maybe from last year, or a close-out, or a weird color.

http://www.campmor.com

https://www.sierra.com

https://www.moosejaw.com

https://www.rei.com/rei-garage

When shopping online, always look for a coupon code at RetailMeNot! https://www.retailmenot.com

Amazon offers knock-offs of good-quality gear by no-name Chinese manufacturers. These items often have very few (and possibly astroturfed!) reviews; proceed with caution.

Amazon also sells its own knock-offs under the “Amazon Basics” label. Some of this stuff is pretty darn good: for example, I bought the 75-liter version of this internal frame pack last year (on sale for $40.15!) and was surprised at how well-made it was, with decent materials and good features. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0141MQRGI/

That pack is almost identical to another — and $20 more expensive -- item, the Teton 4000: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00167TGII/

No, the Amazon Basics pack won’t last for ever, and it’s not ultralight, but it’s functional and inexpensive.

Ask around! Someone in the troop or your family or neighborhood or workplace may have gear they don’t use any more, or may be able to lend you some stuff to try before you buy.

You can sometimes buy used or new gear on Craig’s List or a FaceBook group. The usual reminders of how to shop carefully online apply: never send money electronically, meet in a public place, don’t send anyone your credit card number, bring a friend to the meet-up.

REVIEWS

As for reading reviews to help select an item, there are very good reviews at Outdoor Gear Lab. Here’s their most recent (Nov. 2017) round-up of “budget backpacks”: https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-budget-backpacking-pack

(Note that the super-cheap option they suggest at the end is…the Teton pack linked to above!)

Amazon reviews are often bought, so I am suspicious of items with fewer than fifty or 100 reviews.

The (often truly awful) web site Reddit has a community about camping gear, and you can search it for reviews. (Just make sure not to read any other communities there.) https://www.reddit.com/r/campinggear/

And of course you can ask around the troop! Other Scouts and families have a lot of experience camping, and can share what they know about various manufacturers, specific items, or stores.

48L is pretty small if you are going to be doing any sort of camping etc. I'd recommend at least looking at a 60-65. Anyways, that's not what you are asking.

As far as cheap but sturdy, I bought both the Teton Fox for myself and the Teton Sports Explorer for my girlfriend and found them to be both fairly reliable. This was for an 8 week backpacking trip where I stayed in hostels through Europe (my gf was there for 5 of the weeks), so it didn't go through the rigor of camping, through I'd be willing to say that they would be entirely adequate.

For you, I would say that maybe the Scout or the Summit could be good matches.

Another advantage of going this cheap is that even if the backpack ends up breaking (again, not likely on the first trip), you'll be in a better position to understand what you do and don't like about it.

Oh and don't forget a raincover if they aren't built in.

TL;DR: Teton makes good cheap backpacks but I don't have experience with the smaller sizes. Also think about a slightly larger backpack.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I bought mine without trying it on first and it was close to the perfect size (could have used slightly longer straps over the shoulder, I'm 6'1"), but I have some decent experience with backpacks. For the most part, if you read enough of the reviews you'll find people of certain sizes fitting/not fitting.

Edit dos: Even more thoughts. It's free to try on backpacks in stores, and worth your time just to get accustomed to what the various sizes actually feel like and what sort of features you like. Once you try a few you'll get the hang of it.

Ok. This!! I totally feel for you! My husband and I are going camping and he’s 6’6’’ 250, and I wish there were more reviews out there for tall people- it was definitely challenging to find both backpacks and sleeping bags that weren’t $$$ and fit him... SO here’s what we got that is working out well:

Teton Explorer 4000 - can’t say this enough, it is an AWESOME backpack at a very reasonable price point.
TETON Sports Explorer 4000... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00167TGII?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Teton XXL Sport Sleeping Bag - granted, this doesn’t pick down really small - so definitely not considered ‘ultra light’ but if you’re looking for a great general sleeping bag, it will definitely be roomy enough for you.
TETON Sports Celsius XXL Sleeping... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005EPRGHG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Sleeping pad: Klymit static v lux xl.. fits perfectly under sleeping bag posted above.
Klymit Insulated Static V Luxe... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UW7SQQG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

And ps: my husband says Happy Travels Fellow Sasquatch! :)

I haven't used that backpack you're looking at but I can tell from its design, that it doesn't look like it'll carry the weight comfortably if you're planning on a 3 day backpacking trip in wilderness. This pack is probably better for normal travel so if you're car camping and have access to amenities then this pack should do fine. It also doesn't look big enough to carry a tent, sleeping bag, food, water, etc.

Assuming you'll be deeper in wilderness and using a tent, sleeping bag, pad, etc., I would recommend something that will carry comfortably (aim weight toward your hips and reduce weight on your back) and there are better options out there. You'd want a backpacking backpack at least and you can probably find lots of options within (or close to) your budget.
Below are a few suggestions within a few different price ranges (not sure how strict your budget is).
Side note: I used to own the previous version of the Teton - it was my first backpack - for the price it did a pretty good job and never had any major complaints:

TETON Sports Scout 3400 60L

Mountaintop 55L Backpacking Pack

Mountaintop 65L Internal Frame Backpack Hiking Backpack with Rain Cover

50L Hiking Backpack EocuSun Waterproof Camping Backpack Outdoor Sport Lightweight Backpacking Bag

Hope this helps - have fun on your trip!

You really need to go and try some packs out or better yet Buy a few and load it with what you think you will be carrying do not have the store people stuff bags in there it's not the same as having gear in there they fell much more different. I ended up with a Osprey Black and a Green Pack. I also have a Kelty Lakota 65 for longer hikes.

Osprey is the lighter of the Brands Gregory and Kelty are more heavier and more durable, but if you take care of the packs even the ultra light ones will last you. For $150 you won't be getting the Higher end packs they cost more then that, Or you can try a REI Garage sale and get lucky.

Trips like the one's you posted are great for light packs like the Osprey 65 you can pack a bunch in that pack and still feel like nothing is on your back. The only thing I don't like about Osprey is the side zippers I am a larger man and they don't work too well with my form lol.

This TETON Sports is a great pack it's not the lightest but for the money and the ENTIRE pack is nylon so it's tough as nails, I used it for a few year before upgrading to a lighter packs. I do not regret this at all.

here is a new version

https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Adventurer-Ultralight-Backpacking-Mountaineering/dp/B016ZXEDCQ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_sims?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Internal-ALUMINUM-Backpack-Backpacking/dp/B000F34ZKS/ref=sr_1_5?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1500753362&sr=1-5&keywords=hiking%2Bbackpack&th=1

I dont know what accessories you already have, but IMO this is a great option for a case
It has tons of extra things to go with it, and the products are very effective at protecting my Switch.

I also got this backpack so I dont have to carry actual case around. I absolutely love the backpack, and if youre looking at any of the official nintendo switch packs, I'd definitely recommend this pack first. You can alter the strap on it to wear like a back pack, or as a messenger bag. Perfect amount of space for everything you could want to bring for the Switch and more, without being bulky.

I have used two systems in my time spent hiking. One was a 96oz [Nalgene wide mouth canteen] (https://www.amazon.com/Nalgene-96-Ounce-Mouth-Canteen-Bottle/dp/B000BS0AR4/ref=pd_sim_468_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000BS0AR4&pd_rd_r=6G5N7XE6N68GYYMSM1ZB&pd_rd_w=IB7cI&pd_rd_wg=6zKwz&psc=1&refRID=6G5N7XE6N68GYYMSM1ZB) with a [Source Convertube] (https://www.amazon.com/Source-Outdoor-Convertube-Bottle-Adapter/dp/B004QMF0U8). The second is a [Osprey 3L bag] (https://www.amazon.com/OSPREY-Hydraulics-Reservoir-Liter-Color/dp/B01JSSNKRO/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1498454724&sr=1-2&keywords=osprey+3l+hydration+bladder).

I loved my Nalgene/Source convertube combo. Easy to fill and clean. I had an unfortunate situation with hot water tasting like scalded onions being put into the bag(not my mistake but I paid a heavy price for it). After cleaning it with bleach twice, the water tasted normal but the bag smelled like the onion water for a little while. After 4 bleach cleanings it smelled fine. The Nalgene ended up busting when I had to break hard in my car. It fell from the passenger seat into the floor. I e-mailed Nalgene about but didn't get a reply. I was interested in finding out if they thought the bleach or the hot water might have compromised the bag. The hot liquid warning was for 212 degrees and the water was not boiling when placed into the bag. The Source hydration kit was great. It worked flawlessly. No taste or smells. Easily cleaned. The rubber washer that I lost didn't seem to be a standard size and was impossible to replace. Otherwise I would still use it.

With the Osprey I found that the throughput of water was higher than the Nalgene/Source combo. The water has a slight plastic taste. I have used it less than 5 times and the plastic taste has lessened with subsequent uses. So I am hoping that it will go away completely. The hard side of the bag helps a lot. It would be harder to place it into my Osprey bag without it. The quick connect tubing is a good idea. The bite valve is harder to clean than the Source one I had. The Osprey bag itself was as easy to clean if not more so than the Nalgene wide mouth canteen. The tubing is stiff and makes it difficult to connect the [Osprey quick connect kit] (https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Hydraulics-Quick-Connect-Kit/dp/B00IO06L92/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1498455360&sr=1-3-fkmr0&keywords=osprey+adapter+kit). I think a nice touch is that the plastic clip that holds the flap shut is attached to the bag so it will not be lost. I love the magnetic chest strap clip that came with the bag. A thing to note is that when I purchased the my hydration bag, it listed that the bag under normal use should last a year. The description was vague as to how much use it was tested for in a year. I have a feeling the upper seal will eventually fail but it has not leaked on me yet.

Overall, I have not been disappointed in either of my choices. Both of the choices I have had will perform quite well. I would substitute a Platypus bag for the Nalgene if I had a do over.

Mountaintop 40 liter pretty good for 40 bucks, however I'm upgrading again soon. This one is great and I've had it for about two years now with no sign of wear and tear but I wish I had gone with a 50 or 60 liter bag as the 40 really strains for space on a week long trip. Its perfect for about three days however and that's usually what I do anyway. here's some pics of mine the thing I was most concerned about was support and this does a decent enough job, I'd say 7/10. It has molded foam support which is good but a external frame style seems better to me ( however that's a opinionated subject ) id reccamend going ahead and getting either this one or a larger Teton, or the larger version of mine if your planning on staying out for more than 5 days or so. Less than that and I'd highly recommend mine :)

I mean no disrespect, but I also tend to be rather blunt: There is a lot of work that needs to be done to this bag. It seems really thrown together, out of an amalgamation of random stuff that's vaguely "outdoorsy".

Firstly, the bag itself. There's probably a reason it was in the trash, and my suspicion is that it wasn't because it was well built, durable, and comfortable. Good bags can be had for not much money and there are definitely used options on Craigslist and at outdoor store garage sales if you're on a shoestring budget. Your bag has to be able to take the abuse of multiple days and many miles of rucking.

FOUR knives? And they are all folders to boot? And you're trying to tell me this isn't "bloated"? Come on. Get one good multitool like a Leatherman, or keep the Gerber if you must (you don't need 87 bits for your Gerber in the woods, either). Maaaybe carry a fixed blade, too, if you really think you'll be needing it.

Mess kit: That looks bulky as hell, and aluminum has an incredibly low melting point (something like ~1200F) which is easily attainable in a mature fire. Hello melted mess kit. If you are really just bugging out you shouldn't need to cook anything. Calorie dense food bars, jerky, nuts etc. should be sufficient. Get a super small mess kit like this amazing one from GSI Outdoor and use this very cheap but decent backpacking stove and you have a lightweight, highly functional way to cook, boil water, and drink for under $25.

Blade sharpener? If you somehow manage to dull all four of your knives in a few days you're doing something wrong. Save the blade sharpener for the Zombies-Are-Attacking INCH bag or whatever.

Sunscreen and bug repellent are both great. that said, you are carrying almost as much sunscreen as you are water. Embellishing, of course, but that's a fucking lot of sunscreen.

I would also seriously work on flushing out that medical kit. If you don't have much first aid training, that's fine (though you should get some) but a basic boo-boo kit will be really functional. Gauze, small band-aids, some medium sized non-stick pads, alcohol wipes, burn cream and/or antibiotic cream, tweezers, rubber gloves, pain relievers, anti-diarrheals, generic antihistamines (for regular allergies and allergic reactions), etc. etc. Avoid pre-built medical kits and avoid things you don't know how to use.

The MSR filter is actually fantastic, can't fault you there. That said, something like a Sawyer Mini would be a fair bit lighter, and has integral water storage should you need more.

Metal water bottle: Looks like a thermos, which is great for keeping your coffee warm on the way to work but is single-use and heavy in the backwoods. I'd suggest changing it out for a widemouth single-walled metal container like those from Klean Kanteen because now not only do you have a way to store water, but you also have a way to boil it! And you can cook in it if absolutely necessary. And you can fill it up with hot water and add it to your sleeping bag to stay warm.

Wait...where is your sleeping bag? I know you mentioned having some miscellaneous camping gear in your car, but what if you need to abandon your car? Look at even a simple bivy sack like this one from SOL. Coupled with a lightweight tarp and you have a functional survival sleep system. Throw in a small inflatable pad for insulation from the ground and you can survive in all but the most inclement of weather.

Lose the rat traps and 200(!!!) fishing hooks in exchange for calorie dense food bars and other foods that need little or no preparation. Try to stay above 130 calories/gram and pay attention to things that are high in protein, fiber, and fat. You're bugging out, remember? Not sitting around camp all day with a cold one and your rod in the lake.

Substitute your few cheap (read: heavy and unreliable) flashlights for one good one. Something like a Four Sevens Quark AA2 or something from Fenix, Nitecore, or Olight. It will be reliable, well built, and powered by an efficient driver to produce multiple modes of light and provide for good run time. Get something that takes standard AA or AAA batteries. Avoid CR123As.

Noticeably lacking are things like a map and firestarters. You mentioned a ferrocerium rod. Instead of spending $7.00 on a decent one of those, get three BIC lighters and a pack of waterproof matches in a container. And save a couple bucks in the process. Ever started a fire with a ferro rod? It sucks. I've done it. I do it for fun and honing my skills occasionally. But a simple ass BIC will work 100 times better in almost any situation.

Add a high quality, water resistant topographical map of your region. Do you know how to use that compass? I'm not talking about pointing it north, but for things like triangulation or magnetic declination or navigating to a point on your map by finding a bearing. There are tons of Youtube videos out there that will help you in understanding these techniques if you don't already. A compass by itself is near useless.

How about things that you're more likely to encounter?

Throw in a charger for your phone, or maybe one of those $5 burner flip phones and a $10 minutes card in case yours dies. Take the battery out (should be removable on a cheap pay-as-you-go bog standard phone) and write important numbers on the inside.

How about wiping your ass? Go to your nearest Walmart and hit the toiletries section. You'll find bins of $1.00 miniature travel accessories. I'd recommend a toothbrush, toothpaste, deodorant bar, personal wet wipes (preferably biodegradable), Chapstick, and some baby powder or Gold Bond. Throw it all in a gallon Ziplock or a small pouch. Now you can survive in the woods AND survive overnight a friend's house after you get too drunk and can't drive.

I see nothing for cold weather gear. I know it's summer but depending on where you are night time can still be cold as hell. Add a beanie, wool gloves, a fleece underlayer, a poncho or rainproof hard shell jacket, and a change of GOOD wool socks.


Lose the 9 million feet of paracord. 50ft should be plenty sufficient (if that) especially considering the inner strands are strong enough for most applications.

I think that covers all my major gripes. Back to drinking and being an ass.

Since I'm new at this (I have however been camping in wilderness multiple times for 3-5 days, just never backpacking) I've been reading a ton of guides. I don't have a huge budget since this is something I'm just getting into, but looking around at different reviews this seems to be the best stuff I can get within my price range. If anyone cares to take a look and possibly give any suggestions I would appreciate it.

• Tent - I wanted a two person because the weight difference between this and similar-priced one person tents didn't seem large enough, and more importantly I plan on backpacking with SO or my sister, so the split weight from only having one person carrying a tent seems better.
  
  
  
• Backpack - Once again, budget, but seems to be exactly what I need.
  
  
  
• Sleeping Bag - I'm in Louisiana, so nearby backpacking spots such as Texas don't warrant me buying a super low F rated sleeping bag. I don't want to be burning up and I figure once I get to the point where I'm hiking in colder weather I won't mind dropping more cash on a better rated sleeping bag.
  

Great video! Can't believe you're bringing an external monitor/keyboard/mouse with you, but I guess it makes sense given your job. Is the water bottle necessary? You can use plastic bottles or try out a rollable plastic bottle like Evernew (https://www.amazon.com/Evernew-Water-Carry-Hydration-Pack/dp/B001ASIRMO?th=1&psc=1). I'd also recommend against the UE Boom. I love mine and it is nice for travel, but it takes up quite a bit of space. If I'm desperate for a speaker nowadays I take the UE Roll which is much more compact and has an elastic band making it easier to wrap onto things.

You can definitely get away with a few less boxers/socks, but if you hate doing laundry then it is what it is. To go a step further you could probably ditch the Chucks and just keep the Nike/sandal combo, but I'm the same way and usually pack Chucks or Vans because they're great casual shoes and pack up relatively small.

Thanks! I’ll check out that trail. I’m hoping to do a few hikes through the spring/summer to prep for the hike and go from there to see if I’ll be confident in doing the hike.

I plan on doing at least 2 over night hikes to test my gear... which I have yet to buy but will purchase the things I need in the new year (you never know I may change my mind and that’s a lot of gear to buy)... I found the following online...

sleeping bag, pillow, tent, cook set, backpack , and cooking stove

Of course I’ll have my clothing, food and toiletries. I’m hoping to be as lightweight as possible. Any gear suggestions would be great, I’m also ok with crossing the boarder to get a good deal... I’m a Winnipeger after all, I’m cheap! Lol

https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-10000102-Ultralight-Stuff-Pack/dp/B0124Y2V4M?th=1&psc=1


This might be a bit too lightweight and too much like the sea to summit for you, but I really like mine. I have put about 150 miles on it in Yosemite while day hiking. I got mine off Amazon for $25. They're $35 right now for some reason. At first I was worried about the lack of a belt strap but the important thing is to keep the total weight less than 5lbs /2.5kg. Not too difficult if you frequent this subreddit.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001CDD0X8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480966220&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=vaultz+zipper+pouch&dpPl=1&dpID=51TI5%2BeLTpL&ref=plSrch

Something like this is handy since the backpack isn't structured. I keep the weight around 2l of water and just short of 2lbs for first aid, jacket, lunch, water filter etc and have been pretty comfortable. The longest I've taken it was 22miles in a day, and while I was pretty sore, it was a good tradeoff for how lightweight I was.
I'm 5'10 140lbs,and I can see how a bigger guy would feel pretty tight in this pack though.

This is what i got as my first back in the same boat as you

http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpack/dp/B00167TGII/ adjusts from M-XL

and my wife this one (slightly smaller) adjusts from S-L
http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Internal-Backpack-Orange/dp/B001KBYPIG/

Now these are by no means Mt Everest packs but they have all the bells and whistles, are comfortable, adjustable, and have survived plenty of 1-2 nighter trips on the AT and held up well.

I am 5'11"/6' and 180lbs and i use the "XL" but could probably use the L

With amazons return policy i would try it and return it if it doesn't fit properly.

Now a lot of people will only recommend the best gear, but to "start out" i think you'll be fine w/ a cheaper/decent pack and if you actually enjoy/do it a lot.. then upgrade and you have spares to sell/store/loan and bring more friends with.

I am not an expert and cannot comment on that pack, but thats my input on my first packs i got for about the same price.

Why do you have tights and Capilene Lightweight Bottoms? Pick one and save 5 oz.

Why do you have a cotton tank and 2 running shirts? Pick one. (Hint not the cotton tank) save 10oz

Rain jacket, Puffy, base layer, Houdini and R1. Ditch the Houdini and R1 (especially with such a warm puffy)
save 18 oz

Simplify your cook kit. Get rid of the measuring cup and make marks on your pot or smart water if you're picky about measuring. get rid of one bowl and just eat out of the pot (6oz)

Switch from pack cover to nylofume pack liner (save 2 oz)

Swap the footprint for Polycryo (save like 5 oz)

Ditch the daypack all together OR get something like a cheap drawstring bag or something like this save 7-10 oz

Ultimate Towel Medium "ya'll are going to tell me to get rid of this I know it" yup (5oz)

Generic Flip Flops meh save 8oz

69oz (nice) saved with virtually no cost!

I'll let you in on a secret, you can get away with a perfectly affordable backpacks under $100 that will meet most of your needs. Above that it is specific features and looks. People can and have travel for months across Europe with just a Jansport backpack. But a nicer more expensive bag is totally worth it for the features it offers, but you should really KNOW what you want. Some features are must have for some people and totally useless deal breakers for others. I didnt know what bag was perfect for me until I had traveled a while and and tested a few bags.


The low end is Amazon basics gets the job done for cheap if you want to test thing out this will work fine, lacks good padded hip belt so if you're sensitive weight its not as good.


[Osprey Farpoint],(https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Farpoint-Travel-Backpack-Volcanic/dp/B014EBM3KA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1549003567&sr=8-3&keywords=travel+backpack+osprey) mid tier bag, can be found for less than $100 occasionally. One of the most common backpacking bag around, hood basic travel backpack with great quality and track record.


Chase Reeves does a good comparison of various higher end travel bags if you see something you like you can look for more reviews of it, most will be inside your budget.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhSmF5-SEbUv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkUf0iwA-y8

I've had this one for over a year and am in love. Surprisingly good build quality and is super comfortable to wear under a load. Its also on super sale right now. Feel free to message me if you've got questions

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Internal-Hiking-Backpack-Rainfly/dp/B06Y6LRWZQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1537407971&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=Amazon%2BBasics%2Bbackpack&dpPl=1&dpID=41uM1qW5vfL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1

I have an Teton outdoors scout 3400. It's a 54L bag that is really comfortable and has some good features and is pretty affordable the msrp is about 140, but you can find it on amazo ng for about 80. It a good quality bag at a pretty good price and it comes I a couple different colors. It also has a great warranty that protects against defects for the entire lifetime of the bag.


TETON Sports Scout 3400 Internal Frame https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F34ZKS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_qNgyCbX0KY5RM

I use this

G-raphy Camera Insert Bag with Sleeve Camera Case (Orange)

and put in in the bottom most part of whichever hiking bag I'm using. For my larger pack (65L) (https://www.amazon.com/Teton-Sports-Internal-High-Performance-Backpacking/dp/B000F34ZKS/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3QLFXUFBOG8OX&keywords=teton+backpack+65l&qid=1550902518&s=gateway&sprefix=65l+teto%2Caps%2C151&sr=8-2).

I put it in the sleeping bag compartment like arcana73. Then use the outside loops of the sleeping compartment usually used for tents for the tripod. Want to keep that weight low for stability and to maximize comfort. That insert bag holds my canon 6d body, my 70-300mm, my 50mm pancake, and my 14mm rokinon wide lens. I use a seperate bag I got for my iOptron skytracker to hold filters, remote shutter, additional sds, and so on. For my tent and sleeping bag I simply just put those in the main compartment, opting usually for a light hammock set-up when the weather's good.

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Overall I think a larger backpacking pack will do wonders for the duality you want, leaving room for food and supplies you'll need for those few days. Just be sure to get a nice insert to organize your gear and make sure you get a bag that allows it to be readily accessible like with a sleeping bag compartment, it will save you alot of headache of not having to take out all your stuff to get to your camera!

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PS When looking into his I'd recommend also getting some external mounting system for your camera onto your packso you can minimize stopping time for fool around in the bag to put the camera in and out. Something like the Peak Design's clip (https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjig_Pfm9HgAhUVjcgKHef7BOMYABAIGgJxdQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESEeD2tnd3YimtpuoDUrupzsjx&sig=AOD64_1VNtF2qgoCRHRekkWs4nNs0xkT6Q&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwj21Ozfm9HgAhWtm-AKHQoIC58Q9aACCDc&adurl=https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1086507-REG/peak_design_cp_2_capture_pro_camera_clip.html/?ap=y&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2L7jBRCBARIsAPeAsaMvphVGvlxGsKqAxoQjry9wyVVOGvLmxwoq7sOaB7o-6ePuao0kMUUaAmGkEALw_wcB&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=Y) helps a lot with this subtle annoyance.

For the backpack, I'd suggest the Osprey Atmos 65 AG. I have that pack and you only feel a fraction of the weight on your back. I was blown away when I switched from it to my old pack, the difference really is night and day. You should go in store to get your pack, they'll fit it for you and even put some weight in it to simulate a full load. I went to REI and they fitted it for me while I was there. As for the sleeping pad, Therm-a-Rest pad is your best bet. They make a variety of pads depending on how much you want to spend or if you prefer foam vs inflatable pads. I use a Z-Lite Sol. Its great at reflecting heat and keeping you warm on the cold ground. They also make inflatable versions that might be a bit more comfy. Sleeping bag and tent are a little more tricky just because there's so many options. I couldn't tell you what brand sleeping bag I have, but it keeps me warm at night and that's all I care about. I've never had an issue with Kelty bags in the past but they do tend to be on the heavy side. As for tents, I use a North Face Triarch 2. It might be more than you're willing to spend on a tent, but wow is it light. It can also be a little cozy with two people, but I've never minded it. The MSR Hubba Hubba and the REI Half Dome 2 also fall into this category of ultralight tents. You might want to check out /r/ultralight if you really want your pack to weigh as little as possible. Also check out /r/campingandhiking. I always check Reddit before I choose my gear and these subreddits come up often.

Yeah, I recently just bought a JanSport Super Break with some added inserts that fit perfectly. It's absolutely perfect for safely carrying my dslr and other gear on big or small trips.

1. pack all your sunscreen in individual carry-on approved containers that you can get from the dollar store. you'll want to take at least 4-5 small containers per person, but make sure that the total of all your liquids is less than 1L. the sun is intense as hell in Thailand and you can get burned very quickly.
   
2. PERSONAL TIP: DEFINITELY take probiotics from a local health food store. these help immensely with helping your stomach adjust to the microbes in the food in se asia, especially if you plan on eating street food.
   
3. lightweight pack towel. makes good beach day even better, and weighs next to nothing. something like this: https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5024-431/Personal-Towel
   
4. small day pack. i ALWAYS use this backpack as my day pack and personal item on a carry-on only flight: https://www.amazon.com/Durable-Packable-Lightweight-Backpack-Daypack/dp/B00UNHYXWQ
   
   safe travels!

One mistake I made when I traveled for that period of time was not thinking about going out. I love exploring the nightlife in a different country. I totally did not have the right clothes or makeup for that so I had to go out and buy some. If I was to do it again, I wouldn't skip the clubbing makeup. What I would bring would also be affected by if I am doing carry-on only. I usually try do carry-on only because sketchy shit may happen to your bag as you connect flights. I travel with a 40L Osprey Backpack. I would recommend getting the 46 because it has a connecting day pack. Do not make the mistake of buying a backpacking backpack unless you actually plan to hike a ton. It sucks to have to pull out everything to get something from the bottom. Also is difficult to lock securely. I think this is what I would bring for makeup:

• Z-palette with: 1 white, 1 nude, 1 taupe, 1 dark brown, 2 dark but fun colors, 1 contour, 1 highlighter, and 1 blush.
  
• MUFA glitter
  
• NYX jumbo eye pencil in milk and black bean
  
• UD eyeshadow primer, mascara
  
• 1 black & 1 brown liquid eyeliner
  
• Nars Larger than Life black eyeliner pencil
  
• foundation of choice
  
• liquid concealer
  
• RMCA setting powder (I'd probably put this is a smaller container)
  
• Anastasia Dipbrow Pomade
  
• 1 nude lipstick (make sure it's lipstick that won't melt everywhere)
  
• 1 taupe lipstick
  
• 1 dark lipstick.
  
  No need to double up on favorites, you will be able to replace them with something comparable at some point in your travels.
  
  About liquids, I would only put foundation, concealer, and liquid lipstick in my quart sized bag. The TSA has never given me trouble when I've left my mascara and eye liner in my makeup bag in my carry on. Also, once you leave the United States, airport security isn't as intense and they are more lenient about liquids. If I'm short on space in my quart sized bag, I would put them in my makeup bag and risk having to possibly throw them out at the security checkpoint.

Best budget backpack? Probably the Teton Sports Scout. https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Internal-Backpack-Limited-Included/dp/B00AE31RJQ

I've hiked 460 miles of the AT so far this year with this pack that I got for $50 at the time. I've hauled around 65 lbs at least 15 miles a few different days leaving towns with a 12 pack inside and its held up amazing. I thought for sure I would be buying a new pack at Neels Gap but dang I don't think this thing is ever going to break. It has pockets and zippers in all the right places. Comes with a pack cover too. I really can't find anything to nitpick on this backpack except maybe lose some of the extra straps. Oh, the one thing I do wish it had is a removable brain. But I loved the secret zipper pouch on the seam of the inside to the bottom of the brain. Great for storing 'personal' items.

There's a few good options on that price range. You'll probably hear about the Everest hiking packs. I've had one, and it's decent for the money. If I were you, though, I'd go for something a bit more robust and diverse. These days, I use an Outdoorz Freighter Frame and Pack. You can see it here. The frame is stout and gives you a lot of options for lashing items or quartered game to it. It holds a significant amount of weight with no issue and makes that weight comfortable to carry. The pack is spacious while not being so overly huge as to result in you overpacking.

I've not had the best experience before with Teton Sports packs, but these days people are saying they are pretty good. If you can look at one in person, I'd say take a look at it.

If you're looking more for the large canoe pack sort of thing, the Snugpak Bergen runs around 130. Alternatively, you could get all the materials to build your own pack. A canvas pack basket cover with leather straps could last you for many years, and it's a good learning project. You don't need a nice wooden basket, either. You can make one around a plastic trash bin from Walmart that will work just as well.

That looks like a real good candidate. It can support a sleeping bag without an issue right? I have a second backpack I've only used once. It's This Teton Sports pack. I've used it for a two day hike because a friend convinced me I needed something big. However 4.5lb is heavy, and it has a lot of pockets I don't need(for the trips I do now at least, I may use this pack if I get up to weeklong trips). This is my sleeping bag, it works very well for the price. Not looking to replace it.

My problem with the REI day pack I had before was that it couldn't fit a sleeping bag at all, and would be soaked with back sweat halfway through the hike. This Exos seems to fit everything I want. Thanks a lot for the suggestion.

Neither of those would be very good for hiking/camping.
At 34/40 liters they will most definitely be too small to hold your full overnight backpacking kit, including food and clothing.

Military / bugout bags like this are not really practical for wilderness adventures. You would be much better off getting a bag designed for backpacking, with a real hip belt.

$70 is a low budget for a quality bag in the 50-65 liter range (what you likely need).
Is buying used or renting an option?

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Teton is a popular 'cheap' brand. Their packs are in your price range, although they aren't exactly the most comfortable or quality.

• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F34ZKS
  

Tent looks fine. Very light, if a little small.

No, I have no experience with jetboil. Looks exactly the same as a butane stove to me. Seems to have good reviews. My thing is, though, I already have cookware to boil water in, and it comes with drinking cups and utensils and stuff. I don't need a separate boiling pot.

I'd still recommend bringing water treatment stuff if you really want to train for doing multi-night backpacking. It's better to make sure everything works well before that, so you should pack as you would for a longer trip. Plus, bringing your own water for a 12-18 hour outing will be heavy. And then there's emergencies. You should at least bring some iodine tablets just in case. Also, bring a bandana. You can use it to strain a lot of the sediment out of the stream water before you boil it for food.

As for backpacks, you'll need an internal frame backpack. Tent, sleeping bag, and bedroll take up a lot of space. So does cookware, butane tanks, water, a book or two, food, snacks, food bag, flashlight, fire making equipment, body wipes, trowel, etc etc etc. Read some reviews and find what you think is best. I have this: http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpack/dp/B001947FG8 and love it.

No real experience with this product but it could be a good compromise between the ease of drinking with a hose without the annoyance of refilling a bladder inside the pack. Different reviews say that it works on Smart Water bottles. Might be something interesting to try out.

Teton 3400 fits in your price range with room to spare (let's not put our backpack hopes on a raise). It's 55L which is good because it's carry on sized but gives you room to stuff things you make pick up while traveling. Don't overstuff it when heading to the airport though, 50L is standard for carry-ons and an over attentive staffer can make your life sucky.

Spend your saved coins on a collapsible day pack like this or this.

I normally just have it clipped to my backpack and if I'm going out on an excursion I lock up my backpack and take that with my ID, hat, scarf, sunscreen, and a water bottle in it. Keep it light.

Good luck!

The string bag would work. If you have some spare change the Ultra-Sils really are excellent. All the functionality of a standard bag with none of the bulk. They're quite strong and fairly water resistant. Or as mentioned above, a camera bag with a little extra room is a good option. You'll be glad you have something small when you're out and about.


You especially want something small since BTS/MRT security and many shopping complexes have started to check bags literally every time through. It got a bit frustrating walking through with my main pack and they insist on seeing through to the bottom sometimes.

Did 5 weeks last year with the Farpoint 40 because I was looking to avoid all issues with my luggage.

Carry right on flights, wear it around for hours if needed, climbing stone steps without dragging traditional luggage, keep my hands free, etc.

Worked perfect if you're going for minimal packing and maximum activity potential.

As far as what to pack, I kept my electronics/cables/GoPro set-up organized with a GridIt, and otherwise just packed like 6-7 underwear, 6-7 socks, 4-5 shirts, 1 nice shirt, 1 sweater (for Switzerland), jeans, and shorts. Easy.

Also brought a daypack. Tiny backpack to keep water, sunscreen, etc. in for hikes and longer days out.

I just ran a few more liters through it and the flow rate is now acceptable on the Squeeze. I'm currently getting all my gear ready now for today's trip. I always feel like I'm forgetting something, but it is only for a night so I should be fine.

Also, I have some 2L Evernew water containers that I use for my water filtration system. I have one for dirty water, two for clean water, and I have a bunch of interconnects to connect to a bunch of stuff. I love these things. They have been much tougher than the ones that come with the Squeeze. Also, the way that I have mine, I can set it up as a gravity feed system and do other stuff at camp while the water filters.

I have a V3 Paratus 3 Day Operator's Pack for my GHB and a Kelty Redwing 50 for my BOB. I love the Redwing it's really comfortable and you can cram a ton of stuff in it. I also have a TETON Explorer 400 for backpacking which I love, but is probably a bit too big for a BOB. Personally I think tactical bags are far less comfortable and will take a toll on you if you're traveling long distances. Backpacking packs are made for hiking and will allow you to travel longer distances with more comfort and less back and shoulder pain. If you haven't done a 5 - 10 mile hike with your BOB you really should, a lot of people underestimate the importance of ergonomics while backpacking which is very similar to bugging out.

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These 2 Teton backpacks have great reviews on Amazon (my friend has one and loves it too): Teton Sports 5200 (75L) for $54 and Teton Sports Scout 3400 (55L) for $47

I just used this bag for 5 days in the parks. 20 bucks and I loved it. My friend with a Kavu likes that this one can be worn on either side because the strap can be unclipped. It has a good sized and deep water bottle pocket that my bottle never fell out of the way it has in my North Face backpack and a lot of other great pockets as well, including a some "hidden"-ish low profile ones like a money/card pocket on the strap that is EXTREMELY convenient and I got a lot of compliments on it. It has a very similar profile to a Kavu, but way more customizable and comfortable. And no issues fitting it in lockers, even the smaller sized lockers in the Mummy locker area.

I found this easy on Amazon. Looks pretty useful and sturdy for a mere 40$, plus they usually have free shipping for products above 25$

I've started bikepacking / hiking and camping more. I'm looking to get a good pack that will be enough for a couple of days to a week. I'm definitely on a budget, and if at all possible, I'm looking for recommendations for something I can either secure to my bicycle or wear in to camp / backpack.

I'm looking at this (4.4lbs) teton.

I don't really know what I'm doing, just what I want to do. I appreciate any help you all can offer!

The Teton line has served me very well. I also use it as my general suitcase, since it passes all the carry-on requirements. The rain-fly is a very nice feature, and the adjustable lumbar support and waist belt are really nice for tall guys like us (though I'm only 6'2").

Of course, I'm only going on 2+ years of (relatively) heavy use, some camping, some backpacking through Europe, and multiple trips to visit family back in Ohio.

"Best" is really subjective.

For those on a budget or need to build multiple bags, here's some great, cheap packs. Suitable for most backpacking (maybe not hardcore extended adventuring/mountaineering). Great value for the money.

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Medium

More sizes available. Search Teton Backpacks on amazon.

I don't know much about these backpacks. I know Outdoor Vitals has a related podcast where they mentioned that they're not happy with the design of their current backpack.

Speaking to backpacks I know of in your price range, I'd recommend the Kelty Redwing 50 (or if you prefer sierra.com). It's a good pack, especially to get you going. Its strengths are organization: plenty of pockets and sleeves to stash things, there are passthroughs behind the upper pockets on the sides so that you can slide long objects behind the pocket and rest them in the waterbottle mesh pocket (tent poles, trekking poles, sun umbrella). It's not very waterproof, so you might want to get a pack cover and it does not have hipbelt pockets, but you could buy one from a different vendor: Gossamer Gear has good ones that ship quick, but they are not waterproof so if rain is in the forecast, bring a ziploc sandwich bag for your electronics.

It has an adjustable torso length system to get your pack fitted to you (it's a little confusing to work at first, but it's good adjustability).

Just be careful to get the newer model that hides the daisy chain webbing on the front of the pack. In the old model, this daisy chain is visible.

Good find.

RyanAir's free carry-on dimensions are 40cm x 20cm x 25cm. The classic JanSport Superbreak, one of the best-selling backpacks ever, fits that almost perfectly, so long as you don't fill up the front pocket.

We've travelled on RyanAir 10+ times with these bags, checked them in the sizers, and never had any problems.

You can get it on Amazon for $19.99.

It can be a PITA but also it weighs very little and is pretty simple to use - just gets annoying "squeezing" a lot of water through the filter, specially if you are filling up like 4L of water for camp. I did buy a 900mL Evernew water bag that works much better than the bag that comes with the squeeze. I also saw a post AT hiker review where he mention that getting the regular squeeze is better than the mini, since it has much better flow. He suggested for short (non thru hikes) that the mini should be fine but he preferred the regular, even with the little weight penalty.

Does he have a really nice backpack for hiking/camping? I know a lot of the weight can be redistributed by a really nice suspension backpack so you can carry a lot more and it feels like much less. For your budget, you could get a really nice one from Osprey that will last forever.

Last year I was using this pack and made sure I was on the hip belt mostly - that definitely helps. But getting into that 5th+ mile of the day, it still felt like there was a knife in my back. I'm having an ultralight bag custom made for this year's trip so hopefully that helps.

I use an [Osprey UL daypack}(https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-10000102-Ultralight-Stuff-Pack/dp/B0124Y2V4M).

July in Yellowstone? Don't forgot a mosquito head-net and spray! Seriously. You'll be glad. I'd recommend a filter or way to treat water as well. That way you don't have to lug around so much water. Also, a rain jacket. July is the beginning of thunderstorm season. Sunscreen and a hat too (you burn much easier at high altitudes). I mention these items because you didn't. Also, not sure if you need a knife, tools, and multitool... I just take a small knife.

-Small notepad - helps for planning and communicating and writing down thoughts

-A small daypack - I've used this nearly daily for 5 months and love it:

http://www.amazon.com/Outlander-Packable-Lightweight-Backpack-Daypack/dp/B0092ECRLA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410870013&sr=8-1

-Small roll of toilet paper or kleenex for when nature calls unexpectedly

-Sunscreen

-Extra battery or power pack for charging phone/camera. I prefer the extra battery with external charger. It's great for when the hostel doesn't have a power outlet by the bed. Less risk than leaving your phone sitting out. Amazon this too.

-Umbrella if where you're going rains a lot.

My friend has the Teton 4000 65L pack.

Material is most certainly a cut above the thin stuff you'd expect on a Walmart pack but not quite the same level as mainstream packs like Osprey, Gregory etc. Don't abuse it and you'll be fine.

They make a 55L, the 3400 series, as well.

Double to triple the budget of the Teton packs and you're into the Osprey Volt (60L or 75L) or the Atmos (50 or 65L).

Cheap Backpack Suggestions?

Looking to get a lighter pack, but not looking to spend a lot at the moment, as I will probably get a better pack later once I know my needs better.. I have a two night backpacking trip in about a week in Red River Gorge. I'll be using my hammock. I have found these four:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LPJUNYW/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_4?smid=A14Q688O8PFMTG&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZK65W8/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_5?smid=A38N1X0G3NLPB&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C7V8Y38/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_6?smid=A14Q688O8PFMTG&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F34ZKS/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_7?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Thoughts? Better suggestions? Prefer Amazon due to quick shipping.

If you're not carrying a trade binder, this thing is great. I carry a boogie board, an edh deck, 3 modern decks, a dice box, and a playmate in it. Random other stuff in the other pockets, a drink in the side.

It's $15, comfortable with a strap that can be changed left/right, and it's survived weekly use for 3 years now, along with about 5 Disney vacations.

Zero signs of aging.

OutdoorMaster Sling Bag - Small... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015OFQIS8?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

ALPS OutdoorZ Commander . I have the bare frame version of this pack. It's well made, but I find the hip belt uncomfortable.

I got the frame for less than $70 a while back, just to cannibalize it for parts for my ancient Jansport. Yep, that totally worked. :) The old Jansport hip belt was so much more comfortable though, I washed it and had it restitched so I could keep using it.

I like the Sea to Summit day pack. Not super stylish, but it's hella light and if goes into a pouch that fits in the palm of your hand. So easy to bring with you, and can clip onto things. It doesn't have pockets unfortunately, but I found that didn't mater to me as much as I thought it would. I used this for a month while travelling Europe with only a carry on, so this was a perfect space saver and I used this on my daily outings once I arrived.

I have this Hikpro thing: https://www.amazon.com/Lightweight-Packable-Backpack-Daypack-Backpacks/dp/B016NLA96Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1468336994&sr=1-1&keywords=hik+pro

Nothing fancy, but folds up tiny and only weighs 183g (about 6.5oz) and was cheap. Holds 1 liter smart water bottles perfectly (on the sides for quick access) and has a couple smaller pockets to keep things organized.

I rotate my bag depending on my trip. I have a small shoulder bag like this which is comfortable and has many pockets to store necessities.

Other days, I use a full on backpack, specifically the 2018 Disneyland Park Backpack. Plenty of room for everything.

Just make sure it’s comfortable and doesn’t strain your back.

I use a Sawyer Mini with a 3 L Camelbak water bladder and an Evernew reservoir. I modified the Evernew by putting some holes with grommets in the extra plastic on the bottom and running some string through it so i can hang it from a tree or whatever. Then I fill it up, screw on the Sawyer Mini, and attach that directly to the Camelbak via the tube I drink out of. Water flows from the Evernew, through the filter, into the Camelbak. Pretty easy setup, it works great for me.

I'm not the original commenter but I'm travelling through Europe at the moment and I use the Osprey Ultralight Stuff Pack as a day pack. It weighs about 90 grams and condenses down to about the size of a pack of cards. It's been great so far, probably my favourite investment, it can easily hold a jacket, drink bottle, toiletries, passport etc. Basically anything you'd want to take on a day trip.

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B004R7L7YU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1427578125&sr=8-3&keywords=alps&dpPl=1&dpID=41E67xUOBgL&ref=plSrch&pi=SY200_QL40

Great reviews, can be used with the pack (nice and big) or just as a cargo pack, quite inexpensive and free shipping in Canada :-)

I just got done with about a month worth of research on backpacks. While I ended up getting a nicer aether 70, this Teton pack was constantly appearing in my searches. From all reports, it is hands down the best pack in the lower price ranges. It even appeared multiple times on top gear ranking lists next to the more well known deuter, osprey, type bags.

Check it out:
http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Scout3400-Internal-Backpack/dp/B00AE31RJQ

https://www.amazon.com/EVERNEW-EBY207-Evernew-Water-1500ml/dp/B001ASIRMO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1533760953&sr=8-2&keywords=evernew%2Bhydration%2Btube&th=1&psc=1

super light, super packable, quite durable. I've been using a pair of these for years.

Compatible with sawyer squeeze as well

I used the Alps Commander for two years and would definitely recommend it given your needs and budget. Get the pack and frame combo, but pick up some cotter pins to replace the included split rings. The pack has great external organization pockets and the frame carries weight extremely well because of the shelf feature. The downside of all of this is the total weight but that tends to be the trade off with inexpensive gear.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004R7L7YU/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdb_..SnzbGAV53EW

I also am not a bladder fan and could not adapt to shoulder bottles ( though they do a great job as a counter ballance) I found an inbetween solution. Source makes a kit to adapt a hose to water bottles (prob DIY one aswell) This might be a good temp solution if you are not ready to spend on a pack yet. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004QMF0U8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484171712&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=source+hydration+bottle&dpPl=1&dpID=313jEs5YEAL&ref=plSrch

Teton explorer 4000 is only 67 bucks and is should be able to fit your needs. It goes can adjust to fit people as tall as 6'4". I own this backpack and i love it.
backpckhttp://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpack/dp/B001947FG8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334004245&sr=8-1

I use an Osprey Fairpont 40L. I love it. Can be used as a backpack or duffel. Perfect size for a carryon.

Osprey Packs Farpoint 40 Travel Backpack, Volcanic Grey, Medium/Large https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014EBM3KA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_XZMlDb6XSF88V

I picked up a teton hiking pack for hiking amd camping. Has performed well so far. Easy on the wallet as well. Good luck. https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Internal-Backpack-Limited-Included/dp/B00AE31RJQ

I'm looking at something like this. Thoughts? (/u/electricsheep12345) Thanks for the help!!

Onebagging?

Edit: Learned what one-bagging is: maybe for a weekend trip you can fit 2 or three outfits and all you would need (i have used it for this multiple times).

but for extended trips of a week or more,like a eurotrip or something like that, I would "one-bag" with something more like this Osprey Packs Farpoint 40 Travel Backpack, Volcanic Grey, Medium/Large https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014EBM3KA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Ks2bzbX037MBZ

I was going to recommend the ULA Catalyst but thats not your cup of tea for this purpose.

This one is on a good sale: http://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Trekker-External-Frame-Medium/dp/B004CXCQ0I/ref=sr_1_2?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1450650810&sr=1-2&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2325767011

Heres another big external frame for a fair price: http://www.amazon.com/ALPS-OutdoorZ-Commander-Freighter-Inches/dp/B004R7L7YU/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1450650959&sr=1-1&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2325770011

It's pretty big. It's 55L. But i got it for free and it easily fits all my gear without having to buy smaller and lighter stuff. It's a Teton Scout 3400. http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Internal-Backpack-Orange/dp/B001KBYPIG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458765239&sr=8-1&keywords=teton+scout+3400

The following is strictly a backpacking list, as it includes lightweight items that cost more for that reason:

ULA Circuit Pack $225, 41 oz
Tarptent Double Rainbow Tent $289, 42 oz
Therm-a-rest X-lite regular size sleeping pad $100, 16 oz
Enlightened Equipment Revelation 20 degree Sleeping Bag $250, 20 oz
Sawyer Squeeze Mini Water Filter $23, 2 oz
Evernew Water Bag 900 mL + 2000 mL $30, 2.5 oz
MSR Pocket Rocket $40, 3 oz
Petzl Tikkina $20, 3 oz
Some cheap aluminum cookpot, $20 5 oz

Total: $997, 8.4 lbs

The main ones I'm actually recommending are the first 6 on the list, as the rest were just chosen to show that it is possible to stay under $1000 with everything else you'll need, although unfortunately with sales tax it's over $1000 already.

Another thing to take into consideration is that some of the National Parks like Yosemite NP and Sequoia NP require bear canisters like a Bear Vault or a Bearikade.

I have had this bag for at least 5 years & I bring it with me on all my trips. It packs down super small & opens up to fit a MBP with loads of remaining space. Great daypack.

Not sure if the branding is a total ripoff on outlier or just a crazy coincidence.

https://www.amazon.com/Durable-Packable-Lightweight-Backpack-Daypack/dp/B00UNHYXWQ

Teton Sports has a range of sleeping bags that would fit your needs.

• Altos is a down mummy bag rated for 0°F for $170
  
• Leef is synthetic mummy bag rated for 0°F for $75, or 20°F for $75
  
• Tracker synthetic mummy bag rated for 5°F for $67
  
• They even make double bags if you aren't travelling alone.
  
  I have a Polara rectangular bag (I like the extra space for me feet) that has a fleece liner that I took on a scout camp that kept me warm down to 15°F. We picked up an Evergreen bag for less than $50 on Black Friday.
  
  I like Teton sports because they have a lifetime warranty on their stuff, and they are a local company based out of Utah. They also make decent backpacks and pillows.

I use a 20L outlander backpack in bright orange for my twins. You'll have to get a changing pad, but other than that it works great.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0092ECRLA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494080733&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=outlander+backpack&dpPl=1&dpID=41Ol3mK5GbL&ref=plSrch

Leave your big bag at the hotel/luggage check and buy one of these

https://www.amazon.com/Outlander-Lightweight-Packable-Resistant-Backpack/dp/B00UNHYXWQ

I've been backpacking for the last 4 months and having one of these is life changing. Takes up almost no space and gives me a smaller bag to take on day trips. There are cheaper ones on Amazon that would work as well, but I have this one and its been great

Even if nobodies judging you for having a big bag(and they shouldn't) you'll be a lot more comfortable/free feeling without a huge bag weighing you down

I've noticed that the vast majority of the bags that get named around on this sub are those that don't have to be checked in for flights. If you're only now considering a onebag lifestyle out of the blue, I'd consider taking a look at bigger backpacks, like this (relatively) cheap teton 3400. I used it myself for months when I was hopping around job searching and doing various volunteering/part-time gigs. During that time I had a bunch of stuff I just simply couldn't cut out regardless of how minimalist I was, such as interview clothes, work materials, uniforms, a couple textbooks that I needed with me, and the tools I needed to maintain my bicycle, my main mode of transportation. Onebagging with something like a goruck would have looked cooler, but I'm not Mary Poppins. I was still reasonably mobile, and if you're like most people I'd guess it's going to be hard enough to fit your life into 55 liters.

There are adapters that allow you to use a drink tube with a bottle.

http://www.amazon.com/Source-Outdoor-Convertube-Bottle-Adapter/dp/B004QMF0U8

These are a little gimmicky, but the idea is pretty simple. I used a similar set up before getting a pack that facilitates water bottle use a little better (on my old pack I couldnt retrieve water bottles with the pack on). Quality might be hit or miss, but considering what it really consists of there's not much to break. It's a bite valve, a tube, and a cap with a breather valve that screws onto a bottle.

It only solves some of the issues brought up. You still won't be able to judge remaining water.

UPDATE: So I ended up getting an elastic ruck cover off amazon with a cinch strap clip on it to hold it tight to the bag. Took it up to 100mph with no issues. I’m looking into getting some DWR but for now this seems to work fine.

I picked the medium size for my 26L GR1. Fits perfectly

I have a red Jansport that i got from Amazon 3 years ago and it's still holding up pretty damn well. Nothing wrong with it just dirty. I've seen them cheaper at Amazon than other places but you can always look around to make sure.

Another alternative for Herschel that I've read about is Everlane. I've only heard good things about them. If I were to get a new backpack, I'd go for one of these.

Not sure what you are asking, but the quality/durability issues with the No Limits brand seem chronic. My buddy wanted a really cheap pack to get into backpacking and settled on the Teton Scout 3400 (55L). It's a decent quality pack with plenty of features for a beginner. Currently available on amazon for $65: http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Scout-Internal-Backpack/dp/B00AE31RJQ

They also make a larger (65L) pack: http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpack/dp/B002XF8106/ref=pd_sim_468_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41i6Oh9FSNL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL320_SR162%2C320_&refRID=1N8YEFCF077RTS8AHSZ7

Be careful about getting into huges packs (anything over 65L is a big pack). It's hard not to fill out all the space in your pack, so the larger your pack, the more you will bring. I understand you are new to the sport and may not have "ultralight" gear, but just be aware that the amount of weight on your back will have a huge impact on your enjoyment, especially as a beginner.

EverNew are the water bags that fit, and they're a lot better than the bags that come with the Sawyer.

But right now it's kind of hard to find them. Once word got out they they're a good fit on the Sawyer filters they've been sold out.

http://www.amazon.com/Evernew-Water-Carry-900-ml/dp/B001ASIRMO

Yeah, good point on the day bag. I have this one, which weighs almost nothing and stuffs into one of its own pockets. It's not the most comfortable (it isn't uncomfortable, it just has minimal padding and very little structure) or durable pack, but it survived a 3 week SEA trip in the middle of the summer, including a multi-day hike.

http://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1413972875&sr=8-2&keywords=backpacks

I have two of these one for whatever and one for school. THERE THE FRICKING BEST.

One in flourcesnt orange and the other in beez yellow.

Ya, I would skip that. My friend bought a cheap backpack while traveling in India, came back to use it on camping trips and the first trip the should strap broke. You don't want something crucial as a backpack breaking while hiking. I'd recommend spending $100+ on a good pack, but even this backpack is better than the one on ebay. https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpacking-Backpacks/dp/B00167TGII/ref=sr_1_3?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1491935906&sr=1-3&refinements=p_89%3ATeton+Sports

No problem!

Here's a good backpack that compresses down to nothing, to take with you on dayhikes and stick your electronics into on the buses. I bought one before leaving and I was pretty stoked with it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0092ECRLA?keywords=backpack&qid=1453930838&ref_=sr_1_8&sr=8-8

I was in that area for about 3 months starting in December, so I'm not exactly sure how it is during Feb / March, but we didn't get rained out too much. You'll probably get a bit of rain in the coast (Cartagena, Tayrona), and around Salento, but usually it doesn't last more than a few hours. I remember being in Armenia (close to Salento), and it would rain like clockwork in the afternoon. Same with Barichara, but just after sunset for about an hour.

Bring a light waterproof jacket, and waterproof hiking boots and you'll be fine. Something I didn't think of until a minute ago: water. In some towns, be careful drinking the water. I'd say 80% of places in Colombia / Ecuador are fine for tap water, but there are a few smaller towns that have water which will make you sick. Just ask the hostel owner or a local if it's safe or not to drink.

Here's a breakdown of what I was hauling in my pack:

-tent

-cooking pot / mini stove

-water filter

-external hard drive

-laptop

-camera

-gopro

-flip flops

-boots

-small camera tripod

-bathroom stuff

-toilet paper (this is one of the most important, many restrooms in South America don't provide toilet paper)

-air mattress

-2 lenses

-knife

This is the backpack I've used for the last 4 or 5 years. It packs up pretty small, is very lightweight, and is comfortable to wear. I have the 20L size - it's big enough for a hoodie, a book, sunglasses, a water boottle, my wallet and phone.

Link to a good backpack on Amazon, please?

How about this one?

My son is about 4'8" and 68 pounds (super-skinny).

Looks pretty affordable to me no?


Thanks for the suggestions!

If you are going to be carrying a lot of heavy stuff I actually wouldn't recommend a messenger bag. I had a timbuk2 messenger for 5 years and I loved it, but I had to buy a normal style backpack because I started carrying around my laptop all the time with my books and it just got too heavy for one shoulder. That said, they do really never wear out or break.

Right now I have a jansport. After 1.5 years it has not shown any signs of wear at all. It's also considerably cheaper, comes in a million colors, and is also the most popular backpack in the entire world. I <3 my jansport.

https://www.amazon.com/ALPS-OutdoorZ-Commander-Pack-Bag/dp/B004R7L7YU/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538439470&sr=1-1&keywords=commander+backpack&dpID=412MarCiuAL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

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This is my hunting/backpacking backpack. It is pretty modular and can detach from the frame. This sounds like what you described. I got mine for $100.

I picked up this one this year. It was nice and compact but was able to carry around what I needed. We had 3 kids (under 8) with us!

I doubt you will find what you seek.

The most waterproof bags you can find will look something like this:

BackSak

Observe the somewhat complex closure mechanism required to ensure the bag is truly waterproof.
This bag probably doesn't have any internal pockets or padded sleeves for a laptop either.

What I think you might want to consider is a waterproof rainfly to cover your existing (laptop-friendly) backpack.

JoyWalker

I love this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0092ECRLA/

Very light, breathable, but still strong and comfy. I carry 3-4 liters of water no problems. Plus super cheap and lifetime warranty! I've had mine for about 6 months and no signs of wear yet.

I use this as a diaper bag on lighter trips - holds more than you’d think and would be easy to move to the front anywhere you needed to! The sling part can be unbuckled and reattached to switch shoulders, which I was a big fan of.

OutdoorMaster Sling Bag - Small Crossbody Backpack for Men & Women (Gray) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015OFQIS8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8ukpDbZP0GN1V

I bought size small, and it fits my 26L GR1 pretty well. Plus it's cheap so who cares what happens to it...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N6R4FBT

Trick for getting things on carry on: Most airlines allow a carry on and a "laptop bag or makeup bag" in addition to carry on, so take a second smaller bag and stuff it full of shit so your main bag squishes down. This is the one I've been using for 3 years and its FANTASTIC, folds to fit in your pocket. I take it almost everywhere.

http://www.amazon.com/Packable-Lightweight-Backpack-Lifetime-Warranty/dp/B00UNHYXWQ

I use and love this tube which comes with adapters for a bunch of common bottles

I had some female friends who bought these:
http://www.amazon.com/Teton-Sports-Internal-Backpack-Hunter/dp/B000F34ZKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395182081&sr=8-1&keywords=backpacking

No problems, the pack worked great from both of them. We went on a 3 night trip. I don't think the boob issue should keep you away from this pack either. Both were fine.

Plus one to this suggestion. Evernew is another great brand:

https://www.amazon.com/EVERNEW-Water-Carry-Hydration-Pack/dp/B001ASLWSK

These are relatively inexpensive, but cool to have items:

Long Handled grill basket

Collapsible solar light

personal water filter

Haul and hang kitchen organizer

Daypack There's nothing special about this particular one, but every car camper needs a daypack for hiking.

Battery pack for charging small electronics

Weatherproof matches

Hiker's Emergency whistle

Mosquito head net

Hydration bladder

Collapsible water jug

Condiment squeeze bottles (for more efficient cooler packing)

Probably way too big for what your wanting but the Alps Commander gets good reviews, the pack is removable and it looks to be made for hunters.

Here you go:

AmazonBasics Internal Frame Hiking Backpack with Rainfly, 75 L, Green

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y6LRWZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_CtC3AbYNNDFKP

Here you go:

AmazonBasics Internal Frame Hiking Backpack with Rainfly, 75 L, Green

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y6LRWZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_CtC3AbYNNDFKP

But on the other hand, this backpack almost seems to have the same weirdness... so maybe it's right after all and a product of the lighting setup?

http://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1420869147&sr=8-2&keywords=backpack

I used a 20L outlander bag I bought on amazon. I liked it because it has 2 compartments (so you dont have to always search the main compartment for small stuff) and has the side mesh pockets for waterbottles. I used it whenever I did a multiday hike or whatever where I didnt wanna bring my 40L bag with all my stuff.

I bought this one which is nice but I'm not actually much of a purse person. I have been using this instead and I actually freaking adore it.

top level comment so you see it. I second /u/narayananh tortuga recommendation. While the laptop zip doesn't fold out into it's own bag, you can use a packable day pack like this to lug around your laptop when you want to leave your backpack at your lodging.

I've been eying this guy on amazon, which states it's sufficient for 2-4 day excursions, which would be plenty for what I intend to do for now. The camping area I plan on backpacking to is mostly a swampland/basin area with plenty of opportunities for fishing and trapping.

https://amzn.to/2Omz3DH

Osprey far point 40 liter bag, can fit lap top, tons of stuff inside. Opens so you can see everything.

See video review https://youtu.be/ZQvqA-hLWkU

This works for me , Cloud storage is your friend.

I would give it a 6/10 rating for a pack.. but for the price i would give it 8/10.. I was using this one

http://www.amazon.com/Teton-Sports-Internal-Backpack-Hunter/dp/B000F34ZKS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1367986527&sr=8-2&keywords=teton

Its hard to keep the weight overall even and the metal rods in the frame didn't really feel long enough.. On top of that my back got really hot wearing it.. but I hiked uphill and downhill with it for about 4 miles through snow, dirt, and ice during a 3 day winter trip in Angeles National Forrest in California.. I wouldn't recommend it for anything longer than a weekend.. just not built well enough.. but still works. As you can see I have a love hate relationship.. but thats probably because it was my first pack ever.

Overall its great for the price.. but at the same time you get what you pay for..

I've got one of these. Haven't used it much yet, but it seems to be well made.

Edit: Since mine's not available now, this one looks to be virtually identical. And if you want name brand, the Osprey Ultralight is similar.

Search for a hiking backpack with an internal frame. Better for your back. Get an insert that fits and your set. Test one at your local sporting goods store to get a feel for frames and sizes.

TETON Sports Scout 3400 Internal Frame Backpack; High-Performance Backpack for Backpacking, Hiking, Camping; Hunter Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F34ZKS/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_vToYCb72YRVYY

What does your husband think of this bag? I was actually looking at it myself...

Seems to be of good quality, inexpensive, internal frame and very adjustable.

Also, this backpack. Weights 5lbs. That seems like a lot to me, on further inspection. Maybe I don't need one this big?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00167TGII/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is missing the inner pockets but does have multiple pockets. I have it and love it, although it becomes uncomfortable if you put too much weight in it.

https://www.amazon.com/Hikpro-20L-Lightweight-Packable-Resistant/dp/B016NLA96Y/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&qid=1518285856&sr=8-21-spons&keywords=hikepro+backpack&psc=1&smid=AEA5K88RO6XPD

Check out Amazon Basics backpacks. Interactive frame 75l pack for less than 70. It's well reviewed and amazons customer service is on point. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06Y6LRWZQ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F34ZKS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

This one, I have to leave by saturday so I ordered it and hope it'll hold up for atleast a few months.

Could someone help me compare this pack and this one. I'm looking for an entry pack that I can take on a 2-3 (at most) trip.

My wife and I went for 2 weeks as well and we each took a 40l pack (linked below.) We packed light and washed our clothes a few times while we were there and we were SO HAPPY we did. We looked around at all the miserable tourists with their gigantic hiking packs or rolling cases, struggling to lug them on and off trains and subways while we just slipped right through with our smaller packs on.


Osprey Packs Farpoint 40 Travel Backpack, Volcanic Grey, Medium/Large https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014EBM3KA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_DDyqDb34G20T8

I find a small daypack is good for most circumstances. Carry water, snacks, a towel, some warm clothing or a change of clothes etc.

If you want to stick with your philosophy of one bagging and technically carry only one bag use a packable daypack, fold it up and store it your main pack whilst travelling from place to place, but unfold and use in each place for day to day activities:

Outlander Ultra Lightweight Packable Water Resistant Travel Hiking Backpack Daypack Handy Foldable Camping Outdoor Backpack

They make these backpack covers that are kinda like a shower cap for your backpack. They have an elastic band that wraps around the outside of the pack, covering it with a thin water proof layer. They are cheap and this solution allows you to pick whatever backpack you want.

https://www.amazon.com/Joy-Walker-Waterproof-Breathable-Traveling/dp/B01N6R4FBT/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1502726427&sr=8-3&keywords=waterproof+cover+backpack

Like this? I actually saw something like this in REI the other day and thought about picking it up but decided to see what my boyfriend had first (where I found the foldable duffle).

Jansport site

Jansport Amazon

I love these backpacks. I did break and rip mine to a point where it wasn't usable, but that's also because I had a larger school in high school so getting to my locker was kind of hard. Just carried all my books in one bag, which was like 4-6 text books at a time. It's understandable what happened.

I own one similar to this and while I haven’t used it for hunting I have packed it to the brim and it can hold a fuck load. Quality seems to be there haven’t had any seam fraying or failure and zippers are still intact. The rifle holster down the side of mine works perfect. I’ll leave a link to another bag that would also be perfect


ALPS OutdoorZ Commander + Pack Bag, Briar https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004R7L7YU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_WvXVDbHWKJ6HZ

There is not that much off a difference from a cheap back pack to that. You could get one of [these] (http://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370748055&sr=8-1&keywords=jansport) and it propably work just as well.

I went straight to the Evernew bags. The bags that sawyer sells are pretty terrible.

>All the guides I'm finding keep saying to buy $200 plus bags

65 liter backpack for $63.

I have this one, it works well. It keeps the weight up on my back. It's got a lot of options. I don't expect it to compete with a $200 pack. But I can buy 3 of these packs for the price of one $200 pack.

I've taken it on several hikes and camping trips. It's durable for 2 or 3 day treks. Probably not durable for a 2,000 mile hike, but then even the $200 packs aren't going to last that.

If you want even cheaper then look on ebay for an external frame backpack. Believe it or not people still use them. They're as functional as they ever were, durable, reliable and can pack a lot of weight if you know how to lash items to the frame.

I used to use the Teton Scout pack. Very durable. I mean this thing can take a beating. It's a little on the smaller side, so not a good fit for someone on the tall side (I'm 5'8", there are 3 or 4 more slots left for the strap adjustments). It's also a fairly roomy bag, I've never filled it completely. That said, it's a bit heavy (4.5 lbs) and I'm always trying to go lighter.

I'm in the process of making my own variant of the Moonbow Gearskin.... Basically a modern twist to the old beaver tail packs. I'll be using my sleeping pad for the support, with all my gear packed into it. Tests so far are looking promising, and I've only invested $45 in materials.

http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Scout3400-Internal-Backpack/dp/B00AE31RJQ

http://www.moonbowgear.com/1trailgear/1Custom%20packs/Gearskins/gearskin.html

If you are going now (not that cold) you can get by with a farpoint 40 and one of this http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Summit-Ultra-Sil-Pack-20-Liter/dp/B006CG2TZU

I traveled with that in winter and was fine. I used the big pack for moving between places and the small one to walk around.

With the 55 I would be afraid of having to check my luggage.

They are also on amazon link

r/GoodValue, perhaps. However for $30 I'd just go on Amazon, find something with hundreds of reviews, then buy that... like so.

Sorry mate, just to confirm - is the bag below the same bag I linked you earlier?

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Osprey-Farpoint-Travel-Volcanic-Medium/dp/B014EBM3KA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1550162243&sr=8-1&keywords=osprey%2Bfarpoint%2B40&th=1&psc=1

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It's £30 cheaper on amazon and i'm not sure why.

I dont know man, I've never used meth because of the high risk of addictions, but there are plenty of other ways to lose your mind. LSD and Mushrooms aren't addictive and I guarantee you would have an experience impossible to put into words.

That being said you have to be extremely careful with your mind set and setting before going into it. Its not a decision to be taken lightly at all.

If you want to experience the vagabond life, I recommend getting on of these and packing some clothes and food and travel to the city next to yours. Sleep on the streets a few days and see how it is.

Any bottle you have or want, with this

Agreed. I've been using this ultra light but durable soft backpack that I've had for a few years now and just throw in the basics. Carrying too much shit is a hassle and would definitely prevent me going out as much. Typically what I keep in the pack:

• small plano box with a mix of in line spinners and a few different sized hooks, clip on sinkers, a couple different kinds of bullet weights and some misc things.
  
  
• fishing pliers and knife in one side pocket
  
  
• water bottle on the other side pocket
  
  
• sunscreen+bug spray
  
  
• one or two spools of line
  
  
• few small baggies of soft plastic lures and small jar of power bait
  
  
• very basic first aid kid, some paper towels, rubbers in case mermaid bitches and fishing permit.
  
  Still very light, water resistant and plenty of room for miscellaneous things like snacks, or ice packs, etc. Always keep it on the go so I can just grab a rod and the backpack and head out easy peasy.

Most of the ones I've seen have metal loops on both side of the bottom. So you can unclip the strap and clip it onto the other side. They also tend to be fairly small: not made to carry a lot of weight.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015OFQIS8/

would this be better https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpacking-Backpacks/dp/B00167TGII/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1519230000&sr=1-2&keywords=teton%2B4000&th=1

Jansport: http://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406183361&sr=8-1&keywords=jansport

North Face: http://www.amazon.com/The-North-Face-Borealis-Daypack/dp/B0089RQY06/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1406183374&sr=8-3&keywords=north+face+backpack

Amazon page for the type of backpack the guy has.

Someone get in touch with the FBI, me and /u/apudebeau just cracked this case wide open.

https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Internal-Backpack-Backpacking-Camping/dp/B001KBYPIG/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1511433630&sr=1-3&keywords=teton+sports+scout+3400+internal+frame+backpack

I'm guessing it's this?

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Internal-Hiking-Backpack-Rainfly/dp/B06Y6LRWZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1524478610&sr=8-1&keywords=amazon+75l+backpack

This link worked for me.

This is the pack I use.

This is the tent I use.

This is the sleeping bag I use.

Total weight for the sleeping bag and tent is 5.8 lbs. Total volume for both is 860 cubic inches. My pack has a sleeping bag compartment located at the bottom of the bag. If you look at the link I have posted in my OP there is a pic of my bag fully loaded - the tent is strapped to the outside just in front of the sleeping bag compartment. I also have my machete strapped there.

https://www.amazon.in/dp/B06Y6LRWZQ/ref=twister_B077K4CD9S?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

OutdoorMaster Sling Bag - Small Crossbody Backpack for Men & Women (Gray) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015OFQIS8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_WPRyCb8G59H01

portable backpack. I started keeping one with me when riding scooters in asia, and have started riding a sportbike here in Canada and have been keeping it under my rear seat.

so fucking handy when you are going for a ride and realize you need milk at home or a small amount of groceries etc...

(that is if her Harley doesn't have big saddle bags or something)

https://www.amazon.ca/Outlander-Packable-Lightweight-Backpack-Daypack/dp/B0092ECRLA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1537582528&sr=8-3&keywords=collapsible+backpack

Such as:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004R7L7YU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_SojNBb4J38AB7

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I4ST1FK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_XpjNBb8VRMBM9

https://www.cabelas.com/category/Hunting-Bags-Packs/104392080.uts

https://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504270819&sr=8-1&keywords=jansport+backpack

> New Outlander

Is it this one?
https://www.amazon.com/Outlander-Packable-Lightweight-Backpack-Daypack/dp/B0092ECRLA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1504723671&sr=8-2&keywords=new+outlander+backpack

I also found this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LY3QXGP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2DJFMMNT26KTH&psc=1

I use a hiking bag that has a waterproof bag in it to cover the pack.

https://www.amazon.com/Teton-Sports-Internal-High-Performance-Backpacking/dp/B00AE31RJQ

Not to be found.

How about this?

JanSport Superbreak Classic Backpack Black
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F34ZKS

i prefer a simple backpack so i bought a jansport

not too expensive either.

The 40 is also on sale for $80:

link

Depends on how minimalist you're planning on going. I managed 3 weeks with 5 sets of clothes, all my electronics, meds, toiletries, and such in this bag with my bookbag(carry on) hooked onto the back of it.

I'd say each person should have their own Sawyer Squeeze at the minimum. Also a backup for if the filter clogs and can't be cleaned/backflushed (aquamira tabs is what I carry with my first aid stuff). Those bags do break too, so having a backup squeeze bag for each person is crucial.

I use these bags: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001ASLWSK

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004QMF0U8

ALPS OutdoorZ Commander + Pack Bag, Briar https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004R7L7YU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_yj2kDbJ2BK70N this is the one I’ve got I didn’t pay nearly that much for it though

Edit: fat fingers on mobile

Many Jansports don't contain any leather, as far as I know. This is the one I have and have used for years. It's kinda boring and cliche, but it get's the job done.

http://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409239746&sr=8-1&keywords=Jansport

Thanks for the that. I was kind of in the same boat. I actually had no intentions of purchasing a new bag at all, I was just going to continue to be a bit uncomfortable but I saw it at $124 so it got the wheels spinning. I also can't justify spending $250 right now on something i dont NEED.

I've looked at the day pack. I typically carry a small similarly packable day pack when I travel. Takes up very little room, folds into itself kinda thing. Is the Tortuga one light years ahead of the others? This is the one I currently carry: https://www.amazon.com/Outlander-Packable-Lightweight-Backpack-Daypack/dp/B0092ECRLA/ref=sxts_k2p_hero1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2668835602&pd_rd_wg=ifDLd&pf_rd_r=XMKSDJDA9CHF0TD4RC5N&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-top-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B0092ECRLA&pd_rd_w=Xt1nf&pf_rd_i=packable+daypack&pd_rd_r=DD85M02MQ46DPNWCMWR1&ie=UTF8&qid=1479307680&sr=1

Fortunately I do not travel with a laptop most of the time.

https://www.amazon.com/TETON-SPORTS-121-High-Performance-Backpacking/dp/B000F34ZKS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=57608577553&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhLSEicWt4gIVFbbACh1hUg4hEAAYASAAEgLdifD_BwE&hvadid=274684609815&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9052573&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=b&hvrand=16934333135453329411&hvtargid=aud-648278611385%3Akwd-299276976955&hydadcr=17110_9496591&keywords=teton+hiking+backpack&qid=1558473204&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

I have a Teton and I have no complaints of the bag. Seems to receive good ratings and very affordable.

And for those who are medium or large Amazon has it for the lowest price I have seen anywhere ($150) right now. I just picked it up.

Open to selling or trading

Outlier clothes

-Clean Front Cardigan (discontinued), red earth, small. Bought 2/16 for $375, worn very infrequently, no holes or other defects, condition 8/10. Asking $175

-Doublefine Hoodie, black, small. Bought 9/16 for $275, worn infrequently, some abrasion marks on arm (but no holes), condition 7/10. Asking $100

-Mback track pants (discontinued), static, med. Bought 2/18 for $198, never worn, condition 10/10. Still in return window so asking the full $198.

(Or all three for $400)

Non-Outlier bags

-Minaal v.2 Bag Bundle (Grey) with Modular Hip Pads (bought 4/16 for $493): this is a combo of a larger carry-on bag and a smaller daypack designed to fit inside, never used. https://www.minaal.com/collections/your-future-gear-black/products/bag-bundle Asking $250

-Osprey Farpoint 40 in Volcanic grey, medium/large (bought 6/17 for $155.72, never used ) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014EBM3KA/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Asking $75

(Or both for $275)